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as Calais brings its bulldozers to the camp. | :00:00. | :00:13. | |
but there's a lot of resistance to leaving. | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
Not only because of the sense of community that has built up here | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
would take them one step further away from their goal. | :00:21. | :00:29. | |
The French Ambassador is with us to explain what it is. | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
have we found the most enthusiastic lobby for the remaining in the EU? | :00:36. | :00:44. | |
When I said I was an out, I was virtually lynched in the hotel! I | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
ran out into the streets, it was safer than inside that hotel last | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
night. Farming policy is one area | :00:56. | :00:56. | |
in which the EU has the most power. at the annual conference | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
of National Farmers' Union. Sadiq Khan, Labour's candidate | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
for Mayor of London, joins us live. Is he intensely relaxed | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
about London's filthy rich? transform the mood | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
of an entire city? Newsnight is on the trail | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
of the Foxes in Leicester. In Leicester, the people | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
of Leicester, they don't speak about the weather anymore - | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
they speak about Leicester City. Calais has always been a gateway | :01:22. | :01:30. | |
between France and England. In the 16th century, | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
it was actually English, But today, for migrants, | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
it's not a place for passage any more - it's a purgatory | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
for thousands of people No desire to go home, | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
no right to move here, and no ladders to help them scale | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
the newly erected fences The French authorities | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
now want the squalor We appear to be on the edge of a new | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
phase in the life of migrants there. They had given residents | :02:01. | :02:11. | |
until 8:00pm this evening to clear the southern part | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
of the camp. What can you tell us is happening, | :02:14. | :02:23. | |
what happened this evening? Well, there is a fairly significant police | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
presence here, this is the camp behind me, I have seen numerous | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
police cars advance driving past this road here, and in fact a few | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
with flashing blue light stage and here, but the eight o'clock deadline | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
has come and gone, and the bulldozers have not gone in because | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
there is a legal challenge. A couple of charities that work in the camp | :02:46. | :02:47. | |
saying that the local authorities have their sums wrong and they do | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
not have enough capacity to rehouse all the residents of the camp. Now, | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
the Jungle has always been a rather strange | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
sanctioned impromptu settlement, and the | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
cannot go on now, the residents have to be rehoused either in a state | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
cannot go on now, the residents have facility just next door, or they are | :03:10. | :03:09. | |
welcome to go to any of facility just next door, or they are | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
the country. The people here facility just next door, or they are | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
they don't want to do that, not least because they don't want to | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
stay in France - they want to go to Britain. My feeling is that the days | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
of the Jungle are numbered, but it is 24 or 48 hours before we learn | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
the Rosol of this legal challenge, and that means more uncertainty for | :03:33. | :03:33. | |
the people of the camp. -- result. They're cold, the mornings | :03:34. | :03:36. | |
in the Jungle - the wind whips in, | :03:37. | :03:38. | |
blowing with it the elusive promise of a new life on the other | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
side of the Channel. and there's the threat of change | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
in the air. Many people spend the nights | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
trying to cross, Volunteers are trying to make | :03:50. | :03:51. | |
as much noise as possible. We are here this morning | :03:52. | :04:01. | |
trying to make sure that the maximum number | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
of people possible and to give a real idea | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
of the number of people who are actually in | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
the southern part of the camp. to decide whether | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
to give the go-ahead to the authorities | :04:17. | :04:16. | |
who want to dismantle it. they've drastically | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
underestimated the numbers. We know that there are over 300 | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
unaccompanied children in this to go ahead and the bulldozers | :04:25. | :04:31. | |
arrive and our volunteers who work with the children | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
here every day, if they lose track of them, then they are effectively | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
lost in the system, we don't know | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
what will happen to them. The magistrate arrives | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
and is treated to a chaotic guided tour of the Jungle's | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
mud-sodden lanes. There's a lot of commotion | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
here as the judge has come to visit the camp - her purpose, really, | :04:54. | :05:00. | |
is to check the numbers. The authorities want to move | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
the inhabitants of the Jungle a census in the camp, | :05:05. | :05:13. | |
and they say that the population is three times | :05:14. | :05:16. | |
the official estimate. Plus, most people don't | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
seem to like the look What will you do | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
if they bulldoze this camp? I don't know where I have to go, | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
what I'm going to do. But they say you could live in these | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
containers over here, you don't want to do that? | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
If I live in containers, that means I'm going to make asylum | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
in France. And you don't want to do that? | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
For sure, yeah. Why not? Cos, as I told you, France does not | :05:42. | :05:44. | |
believe that we are in danger, they don't believe our case, | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
they don't believe our problems. And you think that | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
Britain will be more sympathetic? Rightly or wrongly, | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
almost everyone here thinks life would be better | :05:55. | :06:02. | |
in Britain than in France. Most have little or no | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
connection to the UK, but some do, and they are not encouraged | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
by the magistrate's visit. I think the Jungle will finish. | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
You think the Jungle will finish? Her body language, | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
there was no reaction, From her body language, | :06:18. | :06:19. | |
you could tell? I don't know, probably | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
on the street or something. Go on the street? | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
Yeah, but there's no other choices. You speak very good English. | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
I was a translator in Afghanistan. Really? | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
Who were you translating for? The British Army? | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
Yeah. It might seem perverse | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
for people to be so attached to this mud and tarpaulin settlement | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
on Europe's northern edge, but there is a real sense | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
of community in the Jungle. There are English lessons | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
in the warmth of a heated classroom. There's a library called, | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
perhaps inevitably, Jungle Books, in between attempts | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
to cross the Channel. There are restaurants | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
and barber's shops, even a theatre housed | :07:14. | :07:15. | |
in a dome-shaped tent which has become | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
the Jungle's unofficial town hall. It's never been our argument | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
that this Jungle should remain. We've been here for five months | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
and have always said that the conditions are not | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
worthy of any human being. The disease here, the mental | :07:29. | :07:30. | |
illness we are seeing, it's a treacherous place, | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
but at the same time the decision to try to evict | :07:34. | :07:35. | |
so many people in such a short amount of time for them | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
to find somewhere else to go, Midway through the afternoon, | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
news comes from the courthouse - the magistrate has | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
postponed her decision. The inhabitants of the camp | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
are in limbo. is just about filtering | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
through here now. It's a reprieve, but probably | :07:56. | :08:05. | |
only a temporary one. Most of the people who live | :08:06. | :08:07. | |
here agree that conditions are far from ideal, but there's | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
a lot of resistance to leaving. Not only because of the sense | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
of community that has built up here, would take them one step further | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
away from their goal. They've travelled thousands | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
of miles to get this far, often at great danger and expense - | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
they are not about to give up now. Where are you going? | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
What were you trying to do? Train. | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
Train to London? Train to London. Day in, day out, | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
they hide themselves in the backs of lorries | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
trying to get across. It's a little over an hour's journey | :08:37. | :08:38. | |
from here to Lord's Cricket Ground. These people are so close, | :08:39. | :08:50. | |
and yet the prospect of attaining their goal | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
seems to slip further and further into the distance | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
where the bulldozers are waiting. Joining me now is the French | :08:57. | :09:05. | |
Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Thanks for coming in, do you agree | :09:06. | :09:16. | |
that the Jungle's days are now numbered? It is on its way out? Yes, | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
absolutely, we decided to relocate people, but nobody could complain | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
about that, because the conditions were absolutely terrible, and some | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
say not even very humanitarian. So we decided to provide them a home | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
with security, with water, with heating. So it will be better. And | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
of course sometimes those zones are not going to be as near to the | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
coast, the Channel as they want, and they would rather have the lottery | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
ticket to see if they can get to England, wouldn't they? What is your | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
answer to that? Are they going to make it to England? It is much | :09:56. | :10:02. | |
harder, because we have spent some money also to put the fences and | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
also extra police, and we worked closely with the British on that. | :10:10. | :10:17. | |
So, as it is good, they start to go elsewhere. But those relocations are | :10:18. | :10:25. | |
not very far from the southern part of the camp, and others, I would | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
like to say, have been relocated somewhere else in France, and we | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
have convinced some of them also to accept asylum, because most of them | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
want to come to the UK. Right. What is the medium term plan? I mean, you | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
cannot just have people living in squalor in France, a developed | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
country like this, that is not the long-term solution, what is the | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
idea? Are we going to give asylum to those people, send them home? Well, | :10:55. | :11:01. | |
it depends. For those who are not refugees, we will send them home. I | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
mean, those who are economic migrants, they cannot stay there. | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
Those who are real refugees, yes, they are granted asylum, but | :11:12. | :11:13. | |
providing they accepted. Because some of them do not want to stay in | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
France. But your plan is that, ultimately, France will process | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
those people, some will stay if they are allowed, some will go home. | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
Absolutely. Is there anything the British could be doing to expedite | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
that long-term plan and make it happen more quickly? I am thinking | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
particularly around the unaccompanied children. Yeah, I | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
think there have been some decisions by English courts, and so we hope it | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
will be implemented for those children. What, that children who | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
have some case to come to the UK will be brought to the UK? You would | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
like that to happen? Yes. OK, and this is an important time for | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
British relations with France and Europe for reasons beyond the | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
situation in Calais. Sticking with Calais for the moment, one of the | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
issues you may be able to help us with is what happens to the British | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
border if we choose to leave in the referendum, because some say the | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
French may bring the border back to Dover, some say the French would | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
keep it in Calais. What is the truth? Well, I don't know, because | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
in fact some authorities have said that the border should be in Calais, | :12:27. | :12:34. | |
members of the opposition say that they are implementing the | :12:35. | :12:41. | |
agreements, so we don't want to speculate. What you get out of the | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
agreement? Is it just to be nice to ask that you let us put your border | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
there, or does it help you in some way? I think at that time we had | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
Sangatte, and we wanted to close it, so there was an agreement, and we | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
thought that we had, I don't member how many at that time, but they kept | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
coming during all those years, and we did not anticipate that. We are | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
in the early days of our European debate, I just wonder what you make | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
of it so far, whether you are happy with it? Well, I cannot say I am | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
happy or not happy, it is fought the British to say. The only thing I can | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
say is that France would like the UK to stay within the EU, and that is | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
the reason why we made some efforts in Brussels to get an agreement. | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
President Hollande, everybody speaks to their own audience in these | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
things, don't they? President Hollande said there were no special | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
dispensation is from the rules, no veto over the eurozone, Britain has | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
a special place that it has always had, he was trying to play down the | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
concessions made. You think the concessions David Cameron God were | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
not think? I think he got a good agreement, in fact, because he got | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
almost everything he wanted. But we had some red lines, and we didn't | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
want those red lines to be crossed, and that is the case. We have worked | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
a lot on the economic government, and I think that is satisfying for | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
all of us. Is Boris Johnson well known in | :14:18. | :14:29. | |
France? He is well-known, he speaks French! Is the popular, well liked? | :14:30. | :14:37. | |
I do not know, everyone knows him. And they like to listen to him. You | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
are very diplomatic! Thank you very much. | :14:44. | :14:45. | |
It didn't take long in this EU campaign for the art of letter | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
writing to be deployed as a marketing tool. | :14:49. | :14:50. | |
Leaders of some big FTSE 100 companies today put their name | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
to a letter in The Times, arguing that we should stay in. | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
A valuable contribution to the debate, | :14:57. | :14:58. | |
But forget big business for a moment, | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
and think about a different group which stands to be directly affected | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
They haven't written any letters yet, but it does so happen | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
that the NFU conference started today in Birmingham. | :15:11. | :15:12. | |
Our policy editor Chris Cook went along. | :15:13. | :15:24. | |
Where better for Newsnight to come when considering how farmers think | :15:25. | :15:32. | |
then beautiful, rustic Birmingham? The National Farmers' Union which | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
skews to represent slightly better off farmers, is here for its | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
conference. Once critical questions for the meeting this week in | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
Birmingham is Europe. They have a session on Brexit tomorrow. For | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
farmers as for other businesses, one of the critical issues is if we were | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
to leave the EU, on what terms would we have access to the single market. | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
For example might we cut a deal where we could sell goods to the EU | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
as we do today or maybe have Depay terror. At the moment countries | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
without a trade deal have got to pay a tariff of 8% of the value of | :16:09. | :16:15. | |
anything they sell to the EU. The agriculture secretary made a point | :16:16. | :16:18. | |
we heard from many delegates. Even Eurosceptics. What we're going to | :16:19. | :16:21. | |
publish a government, Eurosceptics. What we're going to | :16:22. | :16:27. | |
a document about alternative models which is | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
a document about alternative models in his statement yesterday. I think | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
the real answer is, we do not know. Exactly what it will look like. The | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
debate about Europe is for farmers is unique, they have the common | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
agricultural policy to worry about, a Europe-wide system of subsidies. | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
Farmers in the UK in 2014 got around ?2 billion of cash which made up a | :16:52. | :16:54. | |
large part of their ?5 billion a year or so of actual income. The | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
question for them is, if the UK were to leave the EU, with the British | :17:00. | :17:02. | |
Government chose to give them as much money as Europe does and there | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
is scepticism in this hall about whether they would. The NFU has not | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
is scepticism in this hall about got a formal position yet in Europe | :17:15. | :17:15. | |
but the president is pretty clear about his views. If we were to leave | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
the European Union then there would be some further difficult | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
negotiations and that would be a difficult battle I guess to convince | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
the Treasury to allow the same level of support to British farmers as to | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
European competitors. During the negotiations on the current CAD | :17:37. | :17:44. | |
system, Britain was an advocate for a leaner and less generous CHP. That | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
is why I am nervous, you just have to look back to the last couple of | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
reforms, the Treasury were adamant that the beginning of those | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
negotiations about the level of support for the CHP, that it had to | :17:58. | :18:00. | |
be reduced. We also had nervous about what Westminster would do | :18:01. | :18:05. | |
without Brussels oversight from delegates. I do not believe they | :18:06. | :18:08. | |
would respect British farming and indeed help promote it as much as | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
the European colleagues do. You think Irish farming methods from the | :18:15. | :18:18. | |
higher prestige of farming say in France? Very much so. Our French | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
colleagues are highly supportive of European agriculture. Perhaps | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
contrary to their stereotypes we struggled to find delegates who | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
would make a case that farmers would do better than Brexit. I was quite | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
shocked, I came last night and I'm staying in a hotel and discussion | :18:36. | :18:42. | |
about Europe came up and when I said I was in favour of out, I was almost | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
lynched! What is the balance of opinion like here. For those | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
prepared to go public, they're worried about leaving the EU and | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
especially worried because they are on the ropes at the moment, they had | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
a couple of terrible years, a third coming up and the prospect of | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
another change when they're not been told by the government what the plan | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
be years, they're worried. A number of them in private deal we ought to | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
be leaving the European Union because they're concerned about | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
other things and not about farming. Campaigners for leave said they know | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
they must reassure farmers would be farm subsidies after Brexit. Because | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
the slogan of the day at the farmers attending the NFU conference right | :19:26. | :19:26. | |
now is, better the devil you know. Last week, we had the Conservative | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
candidate for London mayor on this I asked if he would publish his tax | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
return, as the leading candidates He said he would, and yesterday | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
he delivered a letter from his accountant | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
with the important figures in it. Headline - he had an average income | :19:43. | :19:46. | |
of ?1.2 million a year over the last five years, | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
most of it itemised as trust income. That background highlights a | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
very big contrast Mr Khan likes to remind us | :19:55. | :19:56. | |
that he was brought up on a council estate, | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
one of eight children of parents It's not the only contrast | :20:03. | :20:04. | |
with Zac Goldsmith. Zac Goldsmith wants to leave. Sadiq | :20:05. | :20:22. | |
Khan joins us now. On your tax return, you said you would publish | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
it, are you going to do that? We will do it tomorrow. We'll be found | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
at anything interesting M I will publish and you can judge for | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
yourself. The background has been an issue in the London mayoral | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
elections. Did you feel that, it is stuck about Zac Goldsmith, you said | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
he is someone who never had a proper job, I just wonder whether | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
background is important? I talk about my background because it | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
defines who I am. I'm proud that I am one of eight children, the son of | :20:58. | :21:03. | |
immigrants, brought up in a council estate to becoming a lawyer and | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
having a successful business then to Cabinet. We fulfilled our potential | :21:08. | :21:17. | |
because of the joys of London and I feel many Londoners now are not | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
getting the same chances. The Evening Standard, the main London | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
newspaper, has focused or drawn attention to your former | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
brother-in-law who was quite radicalised in the 1990s. He has | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
renounced all of that and is no longer with your sister and you do | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
not see him much. You're not in contact with them now. No one could | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
point that at you but that experience must have been a very | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
difficult one for your family. It was. I'm pleased you ask me, | :21:48. | :21:55. | |
throughout my critical career I have never run away from the fact that I | :21:56. | :21:57. | |
think tackling extremism is important. I was the guy who had a | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
fatwa against him because I voted for same-sex marriage. There was an | :22:04. | :22:14. | |
extremist campaign and people who voted for me were told they were | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
going to hell. But I also speak about my experience as a British | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
Muslim coming across opinions that I find odious and many British Muslims | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
will have come across these views and it is difficult. I have a | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
position of responsibility, and I need to talk about these things but | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
there is no other city in the world where I would like to raise my | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
daughters. London is fantastic and my story is that of many immigrants | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
over 1000 years. I do not want to pry, in your family, you have got | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
the father of your nephews and nieces onstage in Trafalgar Square | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
same things most people would regard as fairly ridiculous. Did you | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
intervene, was a crisis for the family, or was it just something | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
people did, being before September the 11th. I have not seen my sister | :23:12. | :23:21. | |
ex-husband for more than 12 years. He has explained himself, it is for | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
him to explain himself. What is important is this, we live in a | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
fantastic city, a city were Muslims, Christians, but this, not simply | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
tolerate one another but respect and celebrate the difference. I think | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
one of the important things is to recognise that in London there are | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
more than 1 million Londoners of Islamic faith, the vast majority | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
will find those kind of views offensive and want nothing to do | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
with them. Housing and migration are issues in the London election and | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
nationally as well, is there a link between them, perhaps one not often | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
talked about that in London the population has grown by 1 million in | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
the past ten years, we have not built houses for that many people | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
and maybe that is why it is so difficult to get a house. Successive | :24:13. | :24:18. | |
governments have failed London. By 2020 the population will be 9 | :24:19. | :24:25. | |
million. Both is not bad, it is lack of planning. We have to build homes | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
for Londoners. No point building homes if they are sold to investors | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
in the Middle East and Asia before they have been completed. You could | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
say and people to say if you're not going to build homes you had better | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
not let the population grow like that, that is the argument. I spoke | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
about the history of London over 1000 years, we have been open to | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
trade, ideas and people. We are so successful because success of | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
generations, politicians have taken tough decisions to plan Crossrail, | :24:57. | :25:03. | |
to build homes for Londoners, first dibs to Londoners, to scale the map | :25:04. | :25:09. | |
to get the jobs of tomorrow. So I think what is important is for us to | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
recognise that successive governments have failed London. We | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
need America with the experience and political will to build homes for | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
Londoners. I want to speak about your political position, you spoke | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
to the Spectator magazine and said you welcome the fact we have 140 | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
plus billionaires in London. Did you really say that? Absolutely not. I'm | :25:33. | :25:40. | |
there for Londoners, whether you're a billionaire, chief executive, a | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
nurse, a bus driver or a dinner lady. You will go to Shanghai, the | :25:45. | :25:52. | |
chief executive of Barclays Bank sitting next to you, you will lead a | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
trade delegation out there batting for the great banks in the City of | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
London to drum up business. The financial sector creates a lot of | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
jobs, growth and brings investment to London as does the tech sector, | :26:07. | :26:13. | |
creative industries. Of course I will be batting for them and I will | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
join the Conservative Chancellor in the interests of London. I will join | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
a conservative pro-Minister because I want to be a champion for London. | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
A shop steward from London. You were the guy who nominated Jeremy Corbyn | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
in the leadership election. Jeremy Corbyn has said, Peter Mandelson has | :26:34. | :26:40. | |
talked scathingly saying he was relaxed about the filthy rich. | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
Jeremy Corbyn said this is the time to call for public ownership and | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
control of the banking sector. This is only 2012, not ancient history. | :26:51. | :26:56. | |
You're as a completely different end of the party. Jeremy Corbyn, his | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
name is not on the ballot paper for the 5th of May. I want to be the | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
Advocate and the champion for London. You have changed your tune | :27:07. | :27:13. | |
completely. To be fair to me, why nominated Jeremy Corbyn I made clear | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
I had no intention of voting for him. During the selection process I | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
was asked if I would serve in his Shadow Cabinet and I said no. I was | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
clear about what my views where. You will regret not selecting him? | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
You're trying to have it both ways. We have lost two general elections | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
in a row, badly. The idea of the elite in Westminster blocking a | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
Cabinet, fairly popular with the labour supporters, it is important | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
that the labour movement got a chance to choose from a cross | :27:48. | :27:53. | |
section of candidates. And Jeremy Corbyn was the winner amongst trade | :27:54. | :27:56. | |
union supporters and registered supporters. We need to understand | :27:57. | :28:01. | |
that I'm the guy standing to be the Mayor of London and Jeremy has an | :28:02. | :28:04. | |
important job to do in the Labour Party. Sometimes we disagree on | :28:05. | :28:12. | |
issues. On some things I would agree with the Conservative Prime Minister | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
or Chancellor, the Home Secretary, the Business Secretary, Defence | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
Secretary, to argue for London to stay an integral part of the EU for | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
economic benefits, social and cultural benefits and security as | :28:25. | :28:25. | |
well. Thank you very much. A petition in favour giving | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
all young children the meningitis B vaccine has attracted getting | :28:30. | :28:32. | |
on for 800,000 signatures. That is the biggest petition to | :28:33. | :28:43. | |
Parliament in recent memory. At the moment, in this country, | :28:44. | :28:45. | |
the vaccine is only given There have been some tragic cases | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
of children who have died from the infection - | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
and photos have been released of them recently, | :28:53. | :28:54. | |
to draw attention to the danger. Here is one - | :28:55. | :28:56. | |
two-year-old Faye Burdett, who died on Valentine's Day | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
this year. The photo of her, obviously | :28:59. | :29:00. | |
in a very bad way in a hospital bed, Medical opinion has not been | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
convinced that the vaccine should be We'll talk about the dilemma | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
with Dr Sarah Jarvis, But first, let's hear | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
from Claire Timmins whose son Mason and who has been campaigning to | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
raise awareness about the disease. Good evening to you. The terrible | :29:19. | :29:33. | |
experience, just how quickly it happened, take us through what | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
happened. It was so fast, he was totally fine on the Sunday evening, | :29:38. | :29:44. | |
his normal joyful self. Went to bed around 6:30, woke up being sick, I | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
presumed it was just a normal sickness bug, like many children | :29:49. | :29:53. | |
have, spent the day on the sofa, and on the afternoon he got a bit of a | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
temperature, and within half an hour his temperature had not really come | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
down, so I decided to take him to the doctor, and as we were getting | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
ready to go out of the door, he became sleepy, confused. We | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
travelled the short journey to the doctor's. So you are getting more | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
worried. As we got in the doctor's, he lost consciousness. At what | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
stage, what was the first point when somebody said, could this be | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
meningitis? Our doctor was really good, she recognised it straightaway | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
and gave him the antibiotics straightaway. But it was too late. | :30:35. | :30:41. | |
Yeah. Review you had been a trained medical person, was there a sign you | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
could have spotted that would have said, that is meningitis? Before he | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
was passing out, in the morning, for example. It sounds silly to say, but | :30:51. | :30:58. | |
I had seen him a lot worse with viruses in the past. Up until he | :30:59. | :31:06. | |
started to become sleepy and getting a little bit confused, it was just | :31:07. | :31:12. | |
like any other viral infection. Were you aware of meningitis? I myself | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
had a meningitis when I was younger, I was five. So I was a little bit | :31:17. | :31:24. | |
aware, but not as much as I am now, obviously. And Mason has a sister, | :31:25. | :31:31. | |
you have given her, you have active axe and eight it. She had and | :31:32. | :31:38. | |
shortly after Mason passed away. Sarah Jarvis, take us through the | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
issue about the vaccine, there is a short-term issue, which is that | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
GlaxoSmithKline cannot make enough of the stuff, there is not much | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
around at the moment. There has been an enormous run on private doctors | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
to give the vaccine. I am delighted to be raising awareness, I have sat | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
in chairs like this many times over the years trying to persuade parents | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
that immunisation against infectious diseases saves lives, and so it is | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
quite ironic for me to be here now, because in this case everybody wants | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
this vaccine. We have got a horrible, horrible condition. It | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
does not just cause meningitis, it is a germ that can cause many | :32:18. | :32:33. | |
different conditions, it can lead to amputation and of course death. It | :32:34. | :32:39. | |
is not that common. Last year, meningitis B in England, there were | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
about 500 cases, of which about 139 cases were in children between the | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
ages of one and five. The peak ages children under one, and that is why | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
the vaccine at the moment is being given to children under one. And so | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
we are world leaders in that, we should say, most children are not | :33:01. | :33:06. | |
doing it at all. But to be clear, is it just the cost that says, let's | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
not give it to everybody? Or is there a potential side-effect? So | :33:11. | :33:19. | |
far, this seems to have been a very well tolerated vaccine, about 1 | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
million cases given overall, and there do not seem to have been any | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
major side-effects. We know that other vaccines, because do not | :33:27. | :33:30. | |
forget, this is not the only one, meningitis C, there were more cases | :33:31. | :33:36. | |
of that, another strain of the same champ three. There were more cases | :33:37. | :33:42. | |
of that, and we have had a vaccine for that for 20 years. Very sadly, | :33:43. | :33:47. | |
you have to think about cost effectiveness, not so much cost. | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
Even if we could give this vaccine for ?20 per dose, which I believe is | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
the figure that has been negotiated by the Government with the company, | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
over six-month-old babies need two doses. About 800,000 children in the | :34:01. | :34:08. | |
UK needed, about 3.5 million children in the age range, about | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
?144 million to immunise those children. There were 139 children | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
who contracted meningitis B last year. How many of those children | :34:20. | :34:26. | |
died or were seriously damaged? That figure is for England, it might be | :34:27. | :34:31. | |
higher for the UK, but about one in ten of them die, and a lot of the | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
others, it has to be said, seriously injured. But to put it into | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
perspective, last year the entire child and adolescent mental health | :34:41. | :34:44. | |
budget for the whole UK, for the mental health of everyone about | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
young children under 18, was ?700 million. We are talking about a | :34:49. | :34:52. | |
fifth of the cost of the entire budget to immunise this group of | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
people, possibly save 20 lives. I will give you the last word, do you | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
see the difficult calculation that the doctors have to do? I presume it | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
does not make any difference to your calculation. No, we think it would | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
be cost-effective, because what if people do survive? The after-care | :35:16. | :35:18. | |
and all that side of things. Plus, you know, if we are not successful, | :35:19. | :35:24. | |
we have still raised awareness, and by doing that that could have saved | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
lives. If you get to the doctor more quickly. Thank you both. | :35:30. | :35:31. | |
Even if you are not much into football, | :35:32. | :35:33. | |
and I was someone who at school was so bad at it that I would run | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
around the pitch trying to look like I was taking an interest, | :35:38. | :35:40. | |
whereas I was actually ensuring I was nowhere near the ball. | :35:41. | :35:42. | |
But even for the least football-minded among us, | :35:43. | :35:45. | |
this Premier League season has a potential fairy-tale narrative | :35:46. | :35:47. | |
that gives Cinderella a run for its money. | :35:48. | :35:49. | |
It's Leicester City, the unfancied Midlanders | :35:50. | :35:52. | |
who are keeping the moneybag clubs off the top of the table. | :35:53. | :35:55. | |
So what does club success mean for Leicester, | :35:56. | :35:56. | |
and - the big question - can City hold their nerve | :35:57. | :35:59. | |
Who would have thought it, Leicester is Stephen Smith. | :36:00. | :36:11. | |
Who would have thought it, Leicester City are the new Barcelona! Jamie | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
Vardy has created Premier League history... Lionel Messi and to have | :36:17. | :36:24. | |
their famous style, but Leicester have chicken tikka. The afternoon | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
belonged to Leicester City. We fight to win, every ball is the last ball. | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
Can it be true that this diversity is united behind the most unlikely | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
superstars, and is sharing in their good fortune? Leicester City topped | :36:42. | :36:49. | |
the Gemili table, I never thought I would say that! Evening, officer, | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
could we have a word for Her Majesty's and Newsnight? That is a | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
very big camera, Sir! I am more than excited, a lot of guys are very | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
excited about Leicester being at the top of the premiership. It is nice | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
to know Leicester is on the map or something. We are going to win! | :37:09. | :37:14. | |
There is more positivity around, definitely, yes. What Leicester is | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
proving is that it is about teamwork. When Leicester play, we | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
get really worked up that they are going to score at least two goals. I | :37:24. | :37:30. | |
am on the scent of Leicester's extraordinary success. There is | :37:31. | :37:35. | |
that, and I never could resist a skate wing and pickled eggs. Anyone | :37:36. | :37:42. | |
a Leicester fan? Number one fan! How are you? Nice to meet you. Stone me, | :37:43. | :37:53. | |
it is Leicester City legend Steve Walsh! Are you a regular here? Every | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
Friday, fish and chips he holds the record for the most red cards in the | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
Football League, never mind Boris Johnson, he knows how to make an | :38:05. | :38:10. | |
exit. It is famously a very diverse city, is everyone involved, or is it | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
mainly white folks? I think everybody in the country wants us to | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
win the league. The whole of Leicester, I speak to everyone, we | :38:19. | :38:24. | |
are connected together as a city. I think the neutral does want to | :38:25. | :38:30. | |
support us now. They can see the Jamie Vardy type of player coming | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
from the non-league club, it is Roy of the Rovers kind of story. Look at | :38:35. | :38:42. | |
that, beautiful! That is why I am this big now. Since the last | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
election campaign, the BBC has learned to treat all man-made data | :38:48. | :38:52. | |
with caution, but we are happy to rely on superstition and necromancy, | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
and be taught in Richard III's resting place is that the success of | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
the Foxes is linked to the supernatural. Many people did not | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
pay much attention. When we buried Richard, the king in the car park, | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
now the king in the cathedral, it adds to our sense of civic pride, | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
and the team doing well means everyone is walking around with our | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
chests up, it is great. I hardly dare mention it, but the theory that | :39:20. | :39:27. | |
now Richard is at peace, this has encouraged Leicester to do so well. | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
It would be a hard theory to prove, wouldn't it? But it is all part of | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
that sense of us gaining confidence in our identity. In a | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
that sense of us gaining confidence had history that has been buried and | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
hidden, it is now revealed in all kinds of different | :39:44. | :39:54. | |
hidden, it is now revealed in all of 1962-63 were | :39:55. | :39:55. | |
hidden, it is now revealed in all freeze on at the time, right through | :39:56. | :40:09. | |
the country. We were on first or second, I do | :40:10. | :40:19. | |
the country. We were on first or delusions of even winning it, and | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
then it's gradually fails you, and it is not just finishing second or | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
third, we went down to seventh. It was a great season for us, because | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
we were a ballot of Leigh small club compared to some of the big boys. -- | :40:34. | :40:46. | |
a ballot of Leigh -- a relatively small club, and the whole town was | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
behind you. And small club, and the whole town was | :40:50. | :41:01. | |
means to today's supporters, every ball in the crucial away fixture | :41:02. | :41:09. | |
with Arsenal. It is mind games. No, it is my game! Leicester is a | :41:10. | :41:15. | |
multicultural city, QC that in the stadium, a lot of different | :41:16. | :41:18. | |
cultures, people of different backgrounds coming together to | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
support the team. -- you see that. I hate missing the match, it was my | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
best friend's birthday on the same day as a Leicester match, and I was | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
so upset that I had to miss the match to go to her birthday meal. We | :41:32. | :41:38. | |
had a weekend away, we were in the restaurant, and I had the live score | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
on my phone the whole time, I kept telling her the whole time, I am | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
missing it because of you, you had better appreciated! -- appreciate | :41:46. | :41:54. | |
it! As we game plan the run-in to the title, their real goal is to | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
finish in the top four, ensuring lucrative European football in the | :42:00. | :42:05. | |
city next year. That would salve the pain of the Ice Kings and their | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
winter of discontent. I'm afraid the bookies do put | :42:10. | :42:14. | |
Arsenal and Tottenham ahead of Leicester, but that could leave them | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
in the top four. That is all for tonight, have a very good night. | :42:21. | :42:32. | |
Temperatures continuing to fall overnight tonight, and extensive | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
frost to stop tomorrow morning. Overall, a sparkling day of winter | :42:39. | :42:40. | |
sunshine for | :42:41. | :42:41. |