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On Thursday, Britain goes to the polls, after perhaps the most | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
bonkers build up to a vote that anyone can remember. | :00:09. | :00:16. | |
Labour has to deal with rows over anti-semitism and maybe | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
Each of the parties is in a bit of trouble themselves. | :00:23. | :00:29. | |
The Conservatives are divided over Europe. | :00:30. | :00:30. | |
Labour are divided over the Corbyn leadership. | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
No one really knows if the Lib Dems are divided or not, | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
there are so few of them that nobody is really paying attention any more. | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
And Ukip are having trouble really finding a role in the post-EU | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
We'll be looking at how to judge the results, | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
and examining Labour's prospects in particular | :00:45. | :00:46. | |
The grand vision of a united continent. | :00:47. | :00:52. | |
Is this theme park what it's reduced to? | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
Have the EU's founding fathers' visions has been delivered. | :00:59. | :01:00. | |
Maybe it was a bit naive, but we thought we were | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
in the position to change European history. | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
Sounds a bit stupid, but we believed in that. | :01:06. | :01:13. | |
The Newsnight take on Leicester's success: we hear from a City | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
If you look at many of the great successes of our time it's because | :01:19. | :01:28. | |
other people underestimated them. The day after tomorrow, | :01:29. | :01:38. | |
everybody in the country Parliaments or Assemblies | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
councils across England and Wales, mayors in London and three other | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
big cities, and Police and Crime Commissioners in much | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
of England and Wales too. It is a British Super-Thursday, | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
a rare comprehensive test of the voter's views away | :02:04. | :02:03. | |
from a general election. But politics is in a | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
weird place right now. Who'd have thought the Conservatives | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
would be running close And that there could be as much | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
fighting within the big parties For Labour, this is | :02:11. | :02:16. | |
a particularly awkward time, So all in all, a good moment | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
for our new political editor, He'll tell us not just what, | :02:23. | :02:29. | |
but how and why as well. You've been on the campaign trail, | :02:30. | :02:41. | |
what news, what noise? Yes, I've been focusing today mainly on the | :02:42. | :02:45. | |
Labour Party. What I've learned tonight is that Sadiq Khan, who may | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
well achieve Labour's only real success on Thursday in the London | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
mayor or contest, his plan if he wins is that he will mark that | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
victory without Jeremy Corbyn by his side. Sadiq Khan is taking nothing | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
for granted, those votes have not been passed yet and nothing is | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
inevitable. But the plan is that in the immediate aftermath of a | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
victory, we would not see Jeremy Corbyn by his side. When Boris | :03:14. | :03:20. | |
Johnson won in 2008, and 2012, there was David Cameron by his side, | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
getting a mandate only bettered in Europe by the president of France. | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
Sadiq Khan has run his own campaign and he wants to show that if he | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
wins. So he has some reservations about how much of an asset Jeremy | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
Corbyn is to him. More generally, how far do those concerns go? These | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
concerns do run through the Shadow Cabinet. I was speaking to one | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
member to Julia Day who said that Sadiq Khan has shown how you win by | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
building coalitions, and Jeremy Corbyn is showing how you lose. | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
There are concerns about the election poster launched today. It | :03:57. | :04:03. | |
was felt that was a little bit divisive, a little bit harsh. What | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
that means, on everyone's lips in the Labour Party at the moment is | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
the future leadership of their party. | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
The May sunshine brought out a mood of optimism among Jeremy Corbyn | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
supporters this morning as the Labour Party unveiled its English | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
council election post in Southwark. After a rocky week for the | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
leadership, Labour's director of strategy and communications was on | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
hand to reinforce the message of party unity. Thursday's vote will be | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
the first national test of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. No official | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
opposition has lost seats in English local election outside a general | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
election year since 1985 and today he insisted he would not be breaking | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
the record. We will not lose seats, we are looking to gain seats where | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
we can. These elections are being fought on the issues of every | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
different community around the country and a record of what this | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
government is about. Politics is throwing up all sorts of unusual | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
conundrums. Net gains from Labour are unlikely but not out of the | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
question. If Labour lose more than 150 seats, that is bad news for | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
them. If they gain more than 150, that's really good news. If they | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
hold onto what they've got at the moment that's a perfectly fine day | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
at the office. It is a year to the day since Ed Miliband unveiled what | :05:28. | :05:34. | |
came to be known as the Ed Stone. The party's poor result in 2015 | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
ended his leadership. Could a bad showing on Thursday do the same for | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
Corbyn? There are many, possibly even a majority of Labour MPs who | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
would dearly like to see Jeremy Corbyn go, but there are notes and | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
there are divisions. Nerves that Jeremy Corbyn's overwhelming mandate | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
means he could emerge even stronger from a challenge, and divisions over | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
the trigger for a contest. Some say it would take a vote to leave in the | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
EU referendum. Even if die-hard critics say that three conditions | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
would have to be met. First, five members of the Shadow Cabinet would | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
have to resign. Secondly, deputy leader Tom Watson would have to | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
offer his tacit support. Thirdly the chief Rip must not stand in the way. | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
All in all that looks like a pretty tall order at the moment. The ultras | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
who would like to see Corbyn removed immediately have confident to | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
Newsnight a Sun report that the veteran Labour MP Margaret Hodge | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
would be an ideal candidate to challenge the Labour leader. But all | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
eyes are on Corbyn's long-standing ally John McDonnell. Senior | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
backbenchers say privately they think he is sizing up his chances. | :06:47. | :06:53. | |
But he insists he is standing by his friends. Although allies are leaving | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
no one in any doubt that he believes Corbyn was slow off the mark in | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
dealing with the crisis over alleged anti-Semitism in the party. It looks | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
like Sadiq Khan may provide the only prospect of good news for Jeremy | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
Corbyn on super Thursday. The Labour leader will be hoping he wins | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
because of rejection by voters in London or a wing by the Leave side | :07:15. | :07:24. | |
are likely to be the only triggers for a challenge this side of the | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
Labour conference. Jonathan Ashworth, | :07:28. | :07:29. | |
Labour's Shadow Minister Your leader said we are not going to | :07:30. | :07:38. | |
lose any seats. Do you agree? Of course I share Jeremy's confidence | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
and enthusiasm about the elections this Thursday. I have been on lots | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
of programmes like these in the past and I'm afraid I don't make any | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
predictions about what we will win or lose ahead of the polls opening. | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
I don't want you to make a prediction, there are other people | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
who can do that. I guess I'm trying to work out what would constitute | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
success or failure. Presumably if you lost seats, that would be quite | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
a disaster? I don't want to see us losing seats and I don't think any | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
Labour Party member wants to see us losing seats. I know that Labour | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
Party councillors and Labour Party parliamentarians in the assembly and | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
the parliament that are fighting for real action do a tremendous job | :08:19. | :08:21. | |
serving their constituents and I don't want to seek any of them fail | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
to be returned to office. Said that would be a bad place for Labour? | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
Some predictions are that they would lose 150, that would clearly be a | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
crisis? As I say, I've been plenty of programmes ahead of elections. | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
Your leader says you will not lose any seats. We in the Labour Party | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
are running a positive campaign, out there on the doorstep over time, | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
talking to people about issues as I have been quite a lot recently, and | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
when I talk to people about the issues, they want to talk about the | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
state of their local hospital, schools, the services that council | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
delivers. You cannot make an optimistic prediction and not then | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
say it's disappointing if we don't make it on the day. Is the evidence | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
at this point that the party is struggling to break through? Let me | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
put this to you: Jeremy Corbyn won the leadership, and many argued that | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
he would connect with some Labour voters better than some of the other | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
candidates. I'm just wondering whether you think that has actually | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
happened? Well, Jeremy Corbyn did win the leadership quite handsomely, | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
and he has a mandate from the Labour Party members to get us back into | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
power. We all want to see us winning elections. I'm detecting a bit of | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
resistance to the proposition that he has connected with voters. In | :09:40. | :09:46. | |
Scotland tilting left will win voters, they said, but now you are | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
computing with the Tories for second or third place, is that narrative | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
working, that Corbyn connects? Lets do the post-match analysis when the | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
match has actually been played. The one election we have had was the old | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
by-election last autumn. I remember coming on some other programmes like | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
this where similar questions were asked and we ended up winning that | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
by-election with a substantial majority. The Tories have had a | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
pretty torrid time, crises over tax, steel, tax credits, all these | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
things. And yet it doesn't feel as though Labour are where they should | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
be, let alone with a leader who has this special power of connection. | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
The Labour Party suffered quite a catastrophic defeat at the general | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
election last year. I think the Labour Party has a mountain to climb | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
to win an election in 2020. I want to see us making progress but I | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
don't think anybody would expect us to completely turn things around in | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
12 months. The key thing is the Tories are having a torrid time. | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
When I'm talking to people on the doorstep as I am every week and | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
indeed if we weren't celebrating Leicester's great victory in my | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
constituency, we would have been talking to them today. The issues | :10:57. | :11:03. | |
always come down to tax credit cuts, schools, which people are deeply | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
concerned about, the fact that you can hardly get to see a GP and | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
waiting lists are going up, these are the issues people are generally | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
raising with us on the doorstep. Leadership challenge, what would be | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
your message to people briefing papers, talking up Margaret Hodge as | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
a candidate, what is your message? It's not going to happen, is it? | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
It's off. I think it was Tom Watson who said people should just come | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
down. I don't think anything like this will happen. Party members have | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
given Jeremy and mandate to get us back into power, that's what they | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
want to do. OK. Just got to go to the anti-Semitism row. I'm not clear | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
what the narrative is. Is it that there is not an anti-Semitism | :11:48. | :11:53. | |
problem? And it is a smear? To try to undermine the leader? Or is it | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
that there is an anti-Semitism problem? I've been a member of the | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
Labour Party for 22 years since I was 15, we are not anti-Semitic | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
party, we abhor anti-Semitism. We are resolute against it. Individuals | :12:07. | :12:15. | |
have been posting disgusting things on social media, one high-profile | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
individual saying outrageous ins. When we are presented with that | :12:20. | :12:23. | |
evidence, we suspend them. There is no place for those views in the | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
Labour Party and we are clear on that. In the last few days there has | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
been a problem which is why Jeremy Corbyn stepped in. Overall the | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
Labour Party is not an anti-Semitic party, but where we are confronted | :12:38. | :12:39. | |
with these problems we deal with them and send the message that they | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
are not welcome. You tried to draw a line under it by setting up the | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
panel, and there have been murmurings and rows about the | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
composition of that panel, there is one Jewish member who some say has | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
already said that these charges of anti-Semitism are baseless, I | :12:56. | :13:03. | |
believe the president of the board of British Jews has told us about | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
that. He is worried about that. I wonder whether there is still a row | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
on going on this whole thing. Let me say this, I am a member of the | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
Labour Party's National executive committee, I am disgusted by | :13:18. | :13:19. | |
anti-Semitism and I am resolute in my opposition to it. I will do all I | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
can as a member of the National executive committee to ensure that | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
these various enquiries are conducted in a way which meets the | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
confidence of the people concerned. Jonathan Ashworth, thanks very much | :13:32. | :13:32. | |
indeed. Well we all know that while this | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
Thursday is important, there is another vote coming along | :13:36. | :13:37. | |
on Thursday, June 23rd, which will have a big shape | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
on party politics too. To help you think about the EU, | :13:41. | :13:42. | |
we're taking a step back this week, with three films that look | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
at the grand vision of the EU founding fathers, | :13:46. | :13:47. | |
and what has been achieved. The themes of peace and prosperity | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
were to be delivered by among other things, | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
ever closer union, free movement of people | :13:54. | :13:54. | |
and monetary union. Well, we sent our reporter | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
Gabriel Gatehouse in search If the European Union has | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
a birthplace, then it is here. In this little cottage in a woodland | :14:02. | :14:21. | |
west of Paris. If the EU has a founding father then | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
it is this man. In the broken remains | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
of post-war Europe, together with a trusted circle of advisers, | :14:33. | :14:40. | |
over coffee and cognac and fireside chats, they dreamed of a continent | :14:41. | :14:49. | |
prosperous and at peace. Jean Monnet had | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
a vision in this house. And from here he set the whole | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
European project in motion. But what has become | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
of that original vision? Over the next three nights we're | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
going to be asking what state of health is the European | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
dream in today? To bind the economies | :15:07. | :15:19. | |
of Europe so tightly that war He took his plan to | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
the French Foreign Minister. Together they formulated the Schuman | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
Declaration. Those early Europe builders began | :15:30. | :15:49. | |
by pooling production of coal and steel, it was the first step | :15:50. | :15:52. | |
towards that de facto solidarity. It would lead, they hoped, | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
to a federation of Europe. There are not many of that | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
generation left today, but in an apartment in the 17th | :16:04. | :16:11. | |
arrondissement of Georges Berthoin is the last | :16:12. | :16:13. | |
surviving member of Jean Monnet's original cabinet at the European | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
Coal and Steel Community. It was the first institution | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
out of which would grow The dream was to make peace | :16:26. | :16:27. | |
among European countries Then there was another element, | :16:28. | :16:36. | |
the element was prosperity. So the problem was not only | :16:37. | :16:46. | |
to rebuild Europe but to modernise Europe and in this respect | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
we were looking at the example of the United States | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
of America and especially Peace and prosperity, | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
that was the goal. Five years later, six countries | :17:00. | :17:10. | |
would sign the Treaty of Rome, establishing | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
the European Economic Community. The ambition was for | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
a much closer union. The Schuman Declaration | :17:19. | :17:24. | |
was the first step towards When we started, we thought | :17:25. | :17:26. | |
we were going to start something and we thought at the time | :17:27. | :17:37. | |
that we were going to accede to all things including political | :17:38. | :17:39. | |
development, within ten years. And so it happened that France | :17:40. | :17:49. | |
and Germany formed the central And they enjoyed decades | :17:50. | :17:59. | |
of peace and prosperity. A de facto solidarity | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
among member nations. This is Breisach on | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
the Rhine in Germany. Across the river, Neuf-Brisach in | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
France. The French built these | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
fortifications to guard against These two towns that saw three wars | :18:18. | :18:19. | |
in 70 years are now the heartland Here then are two towns | :18:20. | :18:28. | |
from opposite banks of the Rhine. They are living together in peace, | :18:29. | :18:37. | |
their citizens can travel freely backwards and forwards | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
across this bridge. And whatever side they happen | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
to find themselves on, they can pay for stuff | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
in a common currency. In so many ways this is exactly | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
what the European project has Over the decades Europe brought | :18:51. | :18:52. | |
with it all sorts of benefits. Jobs, common rights and protections | :18:53. | :19:01. | |
for workers, but you don't have to dig very deep here to discover | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
that the river still divides. On the French side, | :19:06. | :19:13. | |
around Neuf-Brisach, This one used to produce pistons | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
for the European car industry. But in 2013 high labour costs forced | :19:17. | :19:25. | |
it to close. Unemployment in this part of France | :19:26. | :19:47. | |
is around 10% and rising. GDP is well below | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
the European average. For these French workers overseeing | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
the demolition of their own factory, the EU today means seeing their jobs | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
move to new member states in Eastern There was a dream, a European dream, | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
in the 1950s, 1960s, Do you think that | :20:05. | :20:11. | |
dream is still alive? I think no, peace is here in Europe, | :20:12. | :20:21. | |
but prosperity I think no. In Germany I think a little | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
prosperity but here in France, no. Indeed, back across the river | :20:26. | :20:34. | |
in German Breisach, The citizens of this region, | :20:35. | :20:37. | |
Baden Wurtenberg, are among Just up the road from Breisach, | :20:38. | :20:44. | |
we stumble across what appears to be the most pro-European place | :20:45. | :20:54. | |
on the continent. Is this the stuff that | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
dreams are made of? Meet Euro Mouse, the mascot of this | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
Europe in microcosm. Nestled among the roller-coasters | :21:07. | :21:21. | |
are many of the member states. Scandinavia, Portugal, Greece, | :21:22. | :21:28. | |
which includes Pegasus, Cassandra's curse, | :21:29. | :21:30. | |
and the flight of Icarus. Black cabs, fast-food, | :21:31. | :21:34. | |
and Shakespeare. Who knew the EU could | :21:35. | :21:42. | |
be such family fun? Which is your favourite | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
bit of the park? Our favourite bit is Scandinavia, | :21:49. | :21:50. | |
I think. I like England, but the thing | :21:51. | :21:51. | |
is you haven't got a lot of variety. The history of Europa Park reads | :21:52. | :22:02. | |
like a sort of German It was founded by the Mack family, | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
stalwarts of German manufacturing The park opened its doors in 1975, | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
inspired by the vision We chose Europe and we think | :22:10. | :22:21. | |
it was the best way to go, even though nobody believed that | :22:22. | :22:33. | |
that time Europe would be As much of Europe struggles | :22:34. | :22:36. | |
with an economic crisis, in Germany the dream of prosperity | :22:37. | :22:39. | |
still burns brightly. Today nearly half the park's workers | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
are from other EU nations. We are about to open | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
a water park in 2018. We need another 700 employees, | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
so it is quite difficult because the unemployment rate | :22:57. | :22:58. | |
is so low in this area. Despite Europe's economies pulling | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
in different directions its nations Back on the road, we drive through | :23:02. | :23:17. | |
Verdun. Verdun is to the French | :23:18. | :23:26. | |
what The Somme is to the British. 100 years ago hundreds of thousands | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
of young men lost their Along the roads that wind | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
through Europe's heartland, history lurks | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
around every bend. It is now at the heart | :23:39. | :23:49. | |
of the European project. Throughout the EU's development, | :23:50. | :23:57. | |
from its beginnings in coal and steel, through the Treaty | :23:58. | :24:05. | |
of Rome, the single European act, the Maastricht Treaty, | :24:06. | :24:09. | |
the direction of travel Maybe it was a bit naive | :24:10. | :24:11. | |
but we thought we were in a position You know, at that time, | :24:12. | :24:23. | |
we had the backing of public Because the experience | :24:24. | :24:31. | |
and the tragedy of the war I use the expression, | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
but it was not one we used at that time, to build a kind | :24:37. | :24:44. | |
of United States of Europe. These days, if you say you support | :24:45. | :24:52. | |
a United States of Europe, you might These young activists are handing | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
out leaflets for a by-election Last time around they took | :24:56. | :25:06. | |
a third of the votes. And it was the year | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
of the Treaty of Maastricht. And so we have not known | :25:11. | :25:30. | |
this European dream. All we have known is only | :25:31. | :25:32. | |
unemployment, taxes, and all the disadvantages | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
of this European Union. We have not known | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
this European dream. A year from now, its leader | :25:42. | :25:42. | |
Marine Le Pen could become She has promised to follow | :25:43. | :25:51. | |
Britain's lead and hold We need to find back our | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
borders, our sovereignty, To respect our own laws, | :25:57. | :26:10. | |
which are not the same as in Germany Some people worry that a party | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
like yours is leading Europe back towards nationalism, | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
back towards the place You're right, the European Union | :26:19. | :26:20. | |
is leading us back. It is the European Union that | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
creates unemployment and insecurity. The original founders | :26:27. | :26:37. | |
of the EU had a dream. Of creating peace and prosperity | :26:38. | :26:40. | |
through an ever closer union of nation states, | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
based on common interests The thing about ever closer union | :26:45. | :26:47. | |
is that it presupposes a corresponding weakening | :26:48. | :26:56. | |
of individual national identity. Now it may be that the founders | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
of the European Union thought that by the time we got to the second | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
decade of the 21st century, the nation state would be a concept | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
that had had its day. Across Europe the politics | :27:12. | :27:13. | |
of identity is on the rise. Tomorrow night we will be | :27:14. | :27:24. | |
looking at borders. How the fall of the Iron Curtain led | :27:25. | :27:34. | |
to a Europe more united than ever and how a quarter of a century | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
later, the continent is in crisis over one of the cornerstones | :27:38. | :27:40. | |
of the European dream, Gabriel Gatehouse there, | :27:41. | :27:42. | |
Europe past and present. But on the specifics | :27:43. | :27:49. | |
of freedom of movement, in the here and now, | :27:50. | :27:51. | |
the EU, faces a problem. The story is that Turkey has helped | :27:52. | :27:53. | |
cut the number of migrants sailing to Greece, giving | :27:54. | :27:59. | |
Europe some respite But Turkey has driven | :28:00. | :28:00. | |
a hard bargain for that - above all, it expects the Schengen | :28:01. | :28:03. | |
zone to allow visa free travel Tomorrow | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
the European Commission is set However, it is controversial, | :28:07. | :28:20. | |
and will still have to go Earlier I spoke to Ilnur Cevik, | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
who is senior advisor I asked him if Turkey would pull out | :28:24. | :28:34. | |
of the deal if not granted Visa free travel. | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
You see, the visa agreement is not a concession. | :28:38. | :28:40. | |
Turkey has been given this right through EU-Turkey | :28:41. | :28:42. | |
And if the EU reneges on this deal, then all the other | :28:43. | :28:59. | |
There are 72 conditions which the EU says Turkey must meet before it can | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
Are you saying you've met all 72 of those conditions? | :29:04. | :29:11. | |
Nearly all of them have been met and the EU is going to report that | :29:12. | :29:17. | |
whether we have or we have not in the following days. | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
But if the EU says, look, you haven't met them all, | :29:22. | :29:29. | |
you've only met 62 of them, then it will say you can't | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
have your visa-free travel yet, will you still say the deal doesn't | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
hold and you'll come out of the migrant deal? | :29:38. | :29:40. | |
If some of the clauses have not been met, they will be completed by June. | :29:41. | :29:46. | |
But after that, if we have completed all the deal, | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
and they still say we are not going to have free travel for Turks | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
in the European Union countries in the Schengen area, of course, | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
barring the United Kingdom and Ireland, then the deal is off. | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
But look, one of the things the EU says you have to do | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
is align your legal framework with protocols set out | :30:07. | :30:12. | |
in the European Convention on Human Rights. | :30:13. | :30:13. | |
Protocol seven for example, on crime in the family, | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
article five provides for equality between spouses. | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
You can't arrange for equality between spouses in your legal code | :30:21. | :30:23. | |
between now and the end of June, that would be quite a big thing for | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
But at the moment most of these have been fulfilled. | :30:27. | :30:33. | |
But not all of them and the EU shouldn't let you in if you haven't | :30:34. | :30:42. | |
It says you've got to meet them all, that's the deal. | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
Take it this way, Turkey has fulfilled its obligations | :30:48. | :30:49. | |
of stopping illegal immigrants to the Greek islands. | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
Today there is a dismal amount of people going through. | :30:54. | :30:56. | |
We still continue carrying this burden. | :30:57. | :31:09. | |
Plus, you see, the EU agreement with Turkey is not a concession. | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
What they are giving us as a concession, | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
what they are portraying as a concession on the visa question | :31:20. | :31:22. | |
Look, let me just ask one last question, back to the issue | :31:23. | :31:29. | |
What is your view as to how the European Union has | :31:30. | :31:35. | |
And whether you think it has been effective or not? | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
The European Union is still shutting its eyes to the realities | :31:40. | :31:48. | |
The European Union has created a big mess in Syria, | :31:49. | :31:59. | |
along with the Americans, and they should have known that | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
by ruining and messing up in Syria, all these refugees would be leaving | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
the country, because, when I say this, we should have | :32:10. | :32:11. | |
Turkey, the European Union, the Americans altogether. | :32:12. | :32:18. | |
We should have got rid of Assad but we didn't. | :32:19. | :32:20. | |
3 million people, Turkey has spent $10 billion for them. | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
Now, what has the European Union done? | :32:25. | :32:26. | |
What kind of European values are we talking about here? | :32:27. | :32:35. | |
The European Union has given a very bad test, they have | :32:36. | :32:38. | |
Thank you very much, thank you. | :32:39. | :32:41. | |
The big winner of the English Premier League this season? | :32:42. | :32:51. | |
It's looking super competive, and more interesting than its rivals. | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
In the last four years it has had four different champions - | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
in France, Italy and Scotland, they've had the same | :33:01. | :33:02. | |
It's not been a bad season for Leicester City either. | :33:03. | :33:10. | |
Everybody is trying to work out what it was that made | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
Leicester's table-topping performance. | :33:14. | :33:14. | |
Matthew Syed writes about sport, business and success. | :33:15. | :33:16. | |
If anyone can crack it, he surely can. | :33:17. | :33:18. | |
Tonight Leicester City have to sit, watch, and to listen. Yes! And | :33:19. | :33:32. | |
that's it. It has finished 2-2. And we can say now Leicester City are | :33:33. | :33:40. | |
the Premier League champions. How on earth did Leicester City win the | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
Premier League? What does their victory tell us about how to win in | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
the world beyond sport? Here are five possible takeaway is. Football | :33:49. | :33:56. | |
is fatigued. It is deciding what to do in response to what the | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
opposition is doing. Many teams playing Leicester decided to attack, | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
they were the minnows destined for a relegation. That gave them a | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
priceless opportunity to play on the counterattack. Like so many | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
successful underdogs in corporate and political worlds, they found the | :34:15. | :34:21. | |
perfect tactical niche. Look at what happened with Nokia, somebody who | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
made gumboots, nobody thought they would be a mobile phone company. | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
Nobody was really paying attention to what Apple was doing with phones. | :34:31. | :34:34. | |
The idea that you can get your opponents to underestimate you is | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
one of the great advantages in the world. | :34:38. | :34:39. | |
The modus operandi of modern football is the Galacticos signing. | :34:40. | :34:41. | |
You get a team made up of paycheque players. | :34:42. | :34:49. | |
Soloists, who never really learn to play as an orchestra. | :34:50. | :35:01. | |
The Leicester fans have a new group of heroes. But this is a group of | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
disparate men, many of whom have been plucked from obscurity. | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
In the 1890s a French engineer asked his students to pull on a rope | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
Pulling alone, they managed 85 kilos. | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
When they combined as a team, the individual contribution | :35:19. | :35:20. | |
This is still considered a seminal experiment because it showed that | :35:21. | :35:27. | |
teams do not always add up to more than the sum of their parts. | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
People allow others to take the burden. | :35:32. | :35:42. | |
One of the engines behind the early success of Apple was the passion of | :35:43. | :35:48. | |
its consumers. For them it wasn't just the brand, but the community. | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
One of the most complex managerial challenges has been to sustain a | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
sense of intimacy as the company has grown into a global giant. The same | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
problem manifests itself in football. For example many of the | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
traditional fan base of Manchester United have come to feel alienated | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
from the club as it has grown into a global franchise. | :36:13. | :36:24. | |
Leicester City is small enough as a club to retain | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
a sense of intimacy, a real sense of community ownership. | :36:28. | :36:35. | |
If you are going to have your best season ever, do it when your main | :36:36. | :36:46. | |
rivals are failing to deliver. What is interesting, if you remember a | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
American retailing, these huge giants, Sears Roebuck, they spent | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
the whole time focused on each other, just as Manchester United | :36:54. | :37:00. | |
worrying about Manchester city, or Chelsea worrying about Arsenal. They | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
did not notice a small company called Amazon coming in from the | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
outside. Everybody in football is trying to deconstruct the Leicester | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
miracle, and their role wide lessons outside of the sport. The beauty of | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
the greatest of sporting upsets is that they cannot be fully explained. | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
That is ultimately what differentiates sport from pure | :37:22. | :37:22. | |
science. John Mickelson wait had put a bet on | :37:23. | :37:35. | |
them winning the Premier League year after year, but he did not do it | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
this year. The film director Stephen Frears - | :37:39. | :37:40. | |
who made My Beautiful Launderette, Philomena, High Fidelity, | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
among many others - is from Good evening. Did you keep the faith | :37:44. | :37:56. | |
with Leicester City? I heard Julian Barnes on the radio this morning, he | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
left Leicester when he was six weeks old and he still supports them. I | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
did up until my 20s. Who do you support now? Arsenal. I'm a tragic | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
figure, yes. It's got worse. The interesting thing is there is a | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
story, and isn't that what football is really about? Of course. You are | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
a journalist, so you would say that. But isn't that really the story? | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
Would make a great film, wouldn't it? Wove you should never try to | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
make a film about soccer. But all that has happened is a provincial | :38:30. | :38:36. | |
club has beaten metropolitan clubs, that is always satisfying. A club | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
run by a highly eccentric intelligent Italian has done well, | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
those are values I support. You don't seem quite as excited about it | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
as the rest of the nation. Perhaps I'm a party Bupa. All you want to | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
say is well done, and it's great for the people of Leicester. Great for | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
Ranieri and all his players, that's terrific. Reflect on the appeal of | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
an underdog. What is it in the past that makes us so happy? We all | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
believe in Hollywood. I'm more sceptical about the Hollywood bit. | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
But you like an underdog, don't you? And trying to think. Of course I do. | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
They are the best movies, aren't they? I'm not as sentimental as you | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
are, I can feel a sob, a lump in your throat. People had already | :39:24. | :39:30. | |
started thinking about the movie, but that would not interest you? I | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
don't know how you show soccer on the screen. It is so good to watch. | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
The match Spurs played was so incredible, so violent, amongst | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
other things. You'd never get that on films. One of the things people | :39:46. | :39:51. | |
say about football, it was much nicer in the old day when players | :39:52. | :39:59. | |
were paid 6p, and it was very different. Are you on the point of | :40:00. | :40:06. | |
saying capitalism has destroyed soccer? People keep saying that, but | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
don't they really want the best players in the world. On the one | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
hand you see gains you never dreamt about, the quality now is | :40:16. | :40:24. | |
phenomenal. But you lose the partisanship, you lose the modesty. | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
And yesterday was a day for modesty. So I hope that lesson has been | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
learnt. I'd be very surprised if it has. Key question, you are not going | :40:33. | :40:38. | |
to give up Arsenal and go back to Leicester, are you? No, no. Football | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
has a tragic quality. And the people of Leicester will be in despair next | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
season, I'm afraid. I wonder whether that's true. That's because you are | :40:49. | :40:55. | |
sentimental. Actually there are much more interesting lessons to be | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
learned from Spurs and West Ham. It's a miracle they've won, and you | :41:00. | :41:05. | |
can only be consumed with admiration, up to appoint. Stephen | :41:06. | :41:09. | |
Frears, thanks much indeed. That's almost it. Flash photography, as we | :41:10. | :41:18. | |
leave you with the London mayoral candidate Zac Goldsmith who ran into | :41:19. | :41:21. | |
trouble in an interview for saying he was a Bollywood fan. | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
The intrepid reporter from Red Carpet News TV | :41:27. | :41:28. | |
smelled his opportunity and went full Paxman. | :41:29. | :41:30. | |
If you look very hard, you can almost see what's | :41:31. | :41:32. | |
I'm a Bollywood fan, so anything with a Bollywood | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
Do you have a favourite actor, a favourite Bollywood film? | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
You can't think of a single Bollywood film or actor? | :41:42. | :41:48. | |
I date my Oxford life from my first meeting with Sebastien. | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
I love almost everything about Bollywood. | :41:54. | :42:02. | |
I love the atmosphere, I love the colour, I love the | :42:03. | :42:05. |