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The wrong kind of relationship. England fans on the rampage in | :00:10. | :00:23. | |
Marseille. It may be a fraud couple of weeks, but with the referendum | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
campaign heating up, what affect will football fuelled search in | :00:28. | :00:29. | |
nationalistic feeling have? Gabriel Gatehouse is | :00:30. | :00:31. | |
in Marseille for us. Away from the football, who is | :00:32. | :00:41. | |
scoring the goals in the campaign? I will ask my guest. And Britain's EU | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
Commission gives his is experience of negotiating a trade deal. I | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
wanted to do it quickly, the Americans wanted to do it quickly, | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
and one narrow point, that took four years. | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
And the world says farewell to Muhammad Ali. | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
We will reflect on the man, the radical and his changing politics. | :00:59. | :01:06. | |
There are some things common to most European nations, | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
even including ours - universal health coverage, | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
gun control, an expectation of at least four | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
But more important than any of these, a shared belief that | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
And that four-yearly feast of European football, | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
the European Championships, is at last underway. | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
France, the host nation, won the first match of the tournament | :01:27. | :01:33. | |
However, this is an unusually interesting time for such a contest. | :01:34. | :01:41. | |
Do we think we own Europe, do we hate it, or does our shared | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
love of football bring us closer to the continent? | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
the city hosting England's first game tomorrow evening. | :01:49. | :01:57. | |
Good evening to you, Gabriel. Well, we have just moved back about | :01:58. | :02:05. | |
one Street from where the confrontations have been happening. | :02:06. | :02:08. | |
You can possibly see behind me the blue flashing lights of the police | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
cars. The confrontations have been mostly between England fans and the | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
riot police here. Quite a lot of drinking going on and some fans have | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
been throwing bottles. The riot police have responded, as they do in | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
France, quite quickly, with tear gassed sometimes, charging the fans. | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
These are the kinds of confrontations that have been | :02:30. | :02:38. | |
flaring up every now and then, mostly between England fans and the | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
riot police, but we do now have also quite a few Russian fans walking | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
through town, so the tensions are growing a bit. My impression is it | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
is largely a minority who are involved in this. Most people here | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
are in quite good spirits, good-natured, but some of the bars | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
and cafes are now closing down and these confrontations do seem to be | :02:55. | :02:55. | |
flaring up throughout the evening. For the second evening in a row, | :02:56. | :03:03. | |
England is making itself heard in the centre of Marseille in a way | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
that is making the locals nervous. The match doesn't even kick off | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
until tomorrow. We filmed these celebrations just moments after | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
police charged on a pub where fans were drinking and then throwing | :03:17. | :03:19. | |
bottles. We saw three people arrested, at least one of them | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
wearing an England shirt. Well, there is often a fine line between | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
exuberant celebration and something more uncomfortable and this is right | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
on that line. It is not clear where this is going now. | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
Last night, police fired tear gas to break of a confrontation between | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
locals, mostly young men, and some England fans. The violence was | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
contained relatively quickly but in Marseille, these scenes are revoking | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
uncomfortable memories. In 1998, there were running battles on the | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
street when England play Tunisia here in their opening World Cup | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
match. Dozens were injured, more than 100 arrested or deported. It | :04:04. | :04:10. | |
was not England's finest hour. This year, with 24 nations taking part, | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
these are the biggest European Championships ever. They come at a | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
difficult time for France. There is the state of emergency, still in | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
force after the attacks in Paris last year, then there are the public | :04:25. | :04:26. | |
sector strokes over Labour conditions. A poll out this week | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
suggest Euro scepticism in France is higher even than it is in Britain. | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
In politics and in football, the French are keeping a wary eye on les | :04:40. | :04:52. | |
Anglais. There used to be very, very unpleasant but I suppose they have | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
calmed down. And les Anglais have a habit of causing trouble in Europe | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
as well. They can be difficult, but it is a matter of business, you see? | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
They try to get what they want and we should all do that, actually. All | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
over Europe, they are talking about Brexit. Some with trepidation, some | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
with glee. The referendum takes place in a hiatus between the group | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
matches and the knockout stages and so it is possible that England, | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
Wales and Northern Ireland could crash out of the European Union | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
before they get booted out of the European Championships. David Ginola | :05:30. | :05:41. | |
is covering the football for a French channel. Could football bring | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
Europe together? I doubt about this. Why? Because we are all talking | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
about Europe but on the other hand, what is really Europe? We keep our | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
identities, England, France, Spain. We have our past, our history and as | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
a nation, Europe is not already a nation for me, as common history | :06:03. | :06:13. | |
bringing things altogether. Fans are still making their way south across | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
France for tomorrow's match. We stopped off in the town of Rhiems, | :06:17. | :06:24. | |
two hours from Paris. And came across these guys. John, Murray, Ken | :06:25. | :06:33. | |
and Loz are the official England's supporters' band and haven't missed | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
a tournament England have played since France 1998. So we are very, | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
very hopeful this could be the year. But could the footy have an impact | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
on the referendum? As soon as I heard the date, I thought, positive | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
England performance, everyone will be happy and they will vote in. What | :06:51. | :06:58. | |
is your rationale behind that? And some may think that because the | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
tournament is here, there will be, I don't know, hundreds of thousands of | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
football fans out of the country and which way would they vote? So let's | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
have it in the middle of the tournament. When you come out of a | :07:12. | :07:13. | |
tournament like this, does it make you feel more English or more | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
European? I see where you are going. It makes us feel more English. We | :07:20. | :07:28. | |
argue constantly about this issue in the bus, travelling everywhere that | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
we travel, all the time. Ken, for example, finds himself agreeing with | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
David Cameron. Never done that before in his life. You see, the | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
band is very lucky to have Ken with us because he has a degree in | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
politics. He is setting is right, you see. It was a very long time | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
ago. When you could buy them on the Internet -- couldn't buy them on the | :07:52. | :07:53. | |
Internet. Let's get Marseille in perspective. | :07:54. | :08:03. | |
This is not, at the moment, a repeat of 1998. Many of the fans seem to be | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
channelling the spirit of Leicester City, a bit drunk still, perhaps on | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
the nectar of unexpected success. It is mostly pretty good-natured stuff. | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
Away from the city centre this afternoon, there was time for some | :08:18. | :08:23. | |
cultural immersion for the opposition. Surrogate, Maxine and a | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
surrogate have come from 1,000 kilometres east of Moscow to make | :08:29. | :08:29. | |
friends with the locals -- Sir Guy. But despite all the national | :08:30. | :08:40. | |
bravado, the divisions, there are still occasional glimmers of that | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
cherished notion that football can be a force for unity. | :08:45. | :08:57. | |
He never loses a chance to show off his Russian on this programme. | :08:58. | :09:06. | |
Well, it's not exactly clear how the football | :09:07. | :09:08. | |
will affect the campaign - or the fans' behaviour - | :09:09. | :09:10. | |
but it is clear that it has been a good week for the Leave campaign, | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
the latest polls giving a considerable lead to Brexit. | :09:15. | :09:16. | |
The pound fell this evening on the news. | :09:17. | :09:18. | |
Tis' the season for football pundits, we have two | :09:19. | :09:20. | |
I'm joined by Anne McElvoy from the Economist | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
Let's just talk about how the football affects the referendum. So, | :09:25. | :09:39. | |
if England does well, do people like one of those guys suggested, do we | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
vote to stay in or does it make us confident and stay out? Probably not | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
very much at all either way, if you want the honest answer, but I think | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
if you look at it in a grand historical sweep, in the 1970s, when | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
we joined the European economic community, it was because Britain | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
was thought to be in permanent decline. We have the troubles in | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
Northern Ireland, we were being written off as an economic power, | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
still coming to terms with our loss of empire and we felt we needed | :10:08. | :10:16. | |
something new, I think, and partly motivated Europe. I think today we | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
feel are much more confident nation, London's success, generally Britain | :10:20. | :10:21. | |
growing faster than Europe and I think we don't need Europe in some | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
way and if we do well in the football, it reinforces the sense of | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
we can survive on our own. Do you agree? I am not so sure, not that | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
you would ever put me as a regular football pundit and if any if this | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
is to be linked to the fortunes of the England football team, I | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
wouldn't be confident that will turn out to good, but I think that's | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
likely nationalistic surge, not necessarily what you showed in | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
Marseille, this idea of yes we could give it a go alone, it is probably | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
more use to Brexit in the short term but it will get the pushback from | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
people who perhaps feel it is not the way that they want the country | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
to be perceived. They are happy to go along with it at Eurovision or in | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
the football, but I think they will also want to be more risk averse. It | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
is the timid voters I am interested in. If it looks like you can run the | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
show, though, you can stay in, if it looks like you are the boss of | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
Europe you want to be in the club. Let's move onto this week. Do we | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
believe these polls? The slightly unusual polls, 10% lives and stuff | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
like that. I don't believe it, I party don't believe it, because we | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
have no idea of the level of turnout and I think Nick Watt explained this | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
on the programme the other night, if the turnout is relatively low, it | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
favours Leave, because they are much more 90s elastic. If you start to | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
move up, it favours Remain. But if you move up a further point, it | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
flips back to Leave, because people who generally don't vote in | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
elections, if they are brought out, people who prefer football to | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
Newsnight, if they come out, they will Vote Leave macro. It is clearly | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
a close race, I think that is all we can tell from the opinion polls. I | :12:03. | :12:10. | |
think ten points is way beyond where Leave really are, but what is | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
interesting at this point is momentum and where we are going. If | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
we sat here a week ago on the Friday night, big debate, Michael Gove was | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
on fire, it did look like a great time for Leave and I thought it | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
would be nibbled away at this week because it was clear Remain wanted | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
to get back to the risk factors, they are still wheeling out the | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
heavy artillery and right to do so because the disruption would be | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
considerable, they need to get their point across, and yet this figure, | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
very odd figure of 350 million a week that we are supposed to pay to | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
the EU, even though we get almost half of it back again one way or | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
another, it does seem to have caught fire again for Leave. Yes, they have | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
come under pressure about it but I haven't had the feeling that... | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
There is a theory about that 350, that you have, which is that we keep | :13:01. | :13:05. | |
banging on about it and we say it is a lie and repeated. | :13:06. | :13:13. | |
A few years ago, Matthew Elliott ran a campaign on changing the electoral | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
system, the thought was that the cost would be a few hundred million | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
pounds and that should be spent on nurses, most people in Westminster | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
thought, what a ridiculous thing to focus upon when we are talking about | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
the grand notion of the electoral system but we are in a period of | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
austerity, people object to any of their money going to things they do | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
not want it spent on. Some people are offended by that ?350 million | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
figure may not be accurate but many more people are offended about | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
sending 200 million, ?100 million to Europe, of course it is inaccurate, | :13:49. | :13:51. | |
because it understates the truth will stop if we wrote to remain, I | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
hope we won't, but if we do, you can be sure that they will be asking | :13:57. | :14:07. | |
more. The Economist, where I work, is pro-remain, but the Chancellor | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
has come out and said it is going to cost ?300, ?4000... He did not quite | :14:12. | :14:24. | |
add on that is Evan pens... ?4300. If it goes one is those were the | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
other. -- he did not quite add on 37p. Where is meant, momentum feels | :14:30. | :14:38. | |
more strongly there. Remain, with the exception of the television | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
debate last night, when there was a lot putting the boot in, a lot of it | :14:43. | :14:49. | |
was too personal and particular to the Tory party, if I look at remain, | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
who is meant to be the start of the show? I don't know. The start of the | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
show is David Cameron but we have a YouGov poll in the Times which is | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
only 18% of people trust him on Europe. You have this person who is | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
on the television all the time and he is a huge turn-off to voters, | :15:09. | :15:11. | |
what they need is Jeremy Corbyn out there, the big story, I think, the | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
Labour voters not supporting what their party leadership. The constant | :15:16. | :15:23. | |
equivocation... Must it be Jeremy Corbyn? You have a front bench team | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
on labour who can tell their voters. One person it should not be is Tony | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
Blair. We have seen him, his trust ratings are incredibly low. We may | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
need to find somebody like Martin Lewis, consumer rights expert. They | :15:40. | :15:44. | |
deployed him. On the other side, James Dyson, who is, I think, in an | :15:45. | :15:50. | |
opinion poll, the second most trusted person on these issues and | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
he is coming out emphatically for leave, business person, successful | :15:55. | :16:02. | |
entrepreneur, saying that we can thrive, that is going to continue | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
the momentum. When people do not like political elite will, it is | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
difficult to say that you have a campaign with more political elite | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
oral! When Barack Obama came I did not like the rhetoric. Imagine how | :16:17. | :16:24. | |
Americans would feel if it went the other way. Is a very respected | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
figure, ratings up at the moment, it would in some way have a halo | :16:30. | :16:37. | |
effect. Maybe the message carriers need to change. Time is getting | :16:38. | :16:38. | |
short. Thank you very much. Well, you may feel you've heard | :16:39. | :16:45. | |
a lot of the same voices popping up Each side seems to field | :16:46. | :16:48. | |
a smallish squad. But what of the voices | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
from Brussels? There have been increasingly shrill | :16:52. | :16:53. | |
warnings as to what Brexit might German Finance Minister Schauble | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
warned today that Britain would not be able to be in the single | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
market if we vote out. But one British man at the heart | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
of the institutions is the UK's EU Commissioner, Lord Hill, | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
who is responsible for financial I sat down with him to talk though | :17:07. | :17:08. | |
the implications and asked him whether British banks would be able | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
to operate in the single the only way you could then have | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
access to it would either be through | :17:17. | :17:28. | |
something that is called by which the rules that would then | :17:29. | :17:30. | |
be operating in the UK have to be deemed | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
equivalent by the EU, or they would have to go in, | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
each country that they wanted to go in, country by | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
country, rules by rules. Those would be long, | :17:41. | :17:42. | |
uncertain processes. I think they would add cost | :17:43. | :17:44. | |
and that is why, I think, if you take your example | :17:45. | :17:46. | |
of the banks, the banks say very clearly that if we leave, | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
they are going to be cutting jobs. What I know, from having to go | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
through equivalence processes with, say, the United States, | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
where I have recently done one and where I wanted to do it quickly, | :17:56. | :17:57. | |
the Americans wanted to do it quickly and one narrow point, | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
that took four years. Is it your view that the rest | :18:02. | :18:17. | |
of the EU would not take a constructive mind, | :18:18. | :18:20. | |
put a constructive face Are you saying they would play | :18:21. | :18:22. | |
hardball, because that is what some I think that if you put the boot | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
on the other foot and you think of this as it would be, | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
as a straightforward Trade negotiations aren't | :18:33. | :18:34. | |
about love, they are about power. Business negotiations | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
are about power. So if you think that you have, | :18:38. | :18:44. | |
on the one hand, a group of nations who want Britain to stay, | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
we would then say, no, we don't want you, we haven't been | :18:49. | :18:50. | |
particularly flattering in some of the terms we have | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
described some of these countries during the debate, | :18:54. | :18:55. | |
and then we say, OK, now we want you to give us exactly | :18:56. | :18:57. | |
what we want when you want it. I think it is a human reaction | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
when you go through a divorce not then to fall over to give people | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
the thing they are asking for. I think you also have to recognise, | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
in financial services, which is our export industry, | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
biggest contributor to taxation in the UK, that the shape | :19:11. | :19:12. | |
of the financial services industry in France or in Germany is very | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
different from the UK, so the rules that they would come up | :19:16. | :19:17. | |
with would be different from the rules that they come up | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
with with Britain in the EU. Is there the recognition | :19:21. | :19:28. | |
in Brussels, in your view, as someone who has been there now | :19:29. | :19:31. | |
for a couple of years, that the EU has a problem | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
of overextending itself? It signs up for things | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
without filling in the details, like a euro, like a single currency, | :19:42. | :19:43. | |
or a Schengen zone without borders or without a common immigration | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
policy or asylum policy, and then is kind of bewildered, | :19:48. | :19:49. | |
bamboozled, when it all goes wrong ten years down the line, | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
because they haven't actually thought it | :19:53. | :19:53. | |
through when they did it? I think what there is is | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
a recognition that we need to have a more bottom-up | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
approach than before. I mean, personally, it is something | :20:03. | :20:04. | |
I argue for the whole time, a bit less of a grandiose vision, | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
a few less grands projets and a bit more find out what people want, | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
deliver it on the ground, bit by bit, and try | :20:12. | :20:13. | |
and get momentum going. In different countries, | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
people remain committed to the euro and they recognise that Britain | :20:21. | :20:31. | |
is never going to join and I think one of the things that has come out | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
of the settlement that Mr Cameron struck with the other leaders | :20:35. | :20:37. | |
is a better balance between eurozone and non-eurozone countries, | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
so non-eurozone country, UK, our vital interests more safeguarded | :20:41. | :20:41. | |
and eurozone countries, I think we all need them | :20:42. | :20:43. | |
to integrate further. Right, so it is a project, | :20:44. | :21:02. | |
more integration, but Britain is not That gets to one of the other | :21:03. | :21:05. | |
sophisticated critics of the way this is going, | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
that you're going to end up with a very lopsided federation | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
with, let's call it, small Britain on the edge and a kind | :21:13. | :21:14. | |
of union of 400 million members acting in unison called | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
Eurozone, or Euroland. Is that going to work | :21:18. | :21:19. | |
for the British? Well, first of all, I'm not certain | :21:20. | :21:31. | |
that the premise of your question But you just said there | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
is going to be more No, what I said was for the eurozone | :21:36. | :21:38. | |
to work better, there needs to be further progress with banking union | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
and more integration around the eurozone, | :21:44. | :21:45. | |
but it does not follow from that that the argument that some | :21:46. | :21:47. | |
people make, I think, which is that you have, | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
on the one hand, one country, the United Kingdom, with one set | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
of views and on the other, you have 27 countries | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
with a Federalist blueprint in the top of every drawer, | :21:56. | :21:57. | |
who are completely committed to grinding relentless | :21:58. | :21:59. | |
further integration. That is not what it feels | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
like on the ground at all. Now you might remember that last | :22:03. | :22:19. | |
year, Newsnight documented the journeys of two | :22:20. | :22:26. | |
families to this country, refugees from | :22:27. | :22:27. | |
the Syrian civil war. They were in camps in Jordan | :22:28. | :22:29. | |
and were brought here via the official British programme | :22:30. | :22:31. | |
to rescue the most vulnerable people Well, we've been following | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
the fortunes of those families and we have to report that for one | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
of them, The teenage son of that family | :22:38. | :22:39. | |
was in court today, charged with sexually | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
assaulting a 14-year-old girl. It is too early to say very much | :22:44. | :22:45. | |
about the circumstances but John Sweeney has sent us this | :22:46. | :22:48. | |
report from Newcastle. VOICEOVER: How we cope with | :22:49. | :22:55. | |
the refugees from a pitiless war is a test | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
of humanity for Europe causing great stress, | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
both for the politicians The British Government's response | :23:02. | :23:04. | |
was to allow in 20,000 refugees over five years from countries like | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
Jordan, shown here, and Lebanon. The refugees were selected by UNHCR | :23:09. | :23:12. | |
and fast tracked if they were deemed We are proposing that Britain should | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
resettle up to 20,000 Syrian refugees over the rest | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
of this Parliament. In doing so, we will continue | :23:21. | :23:22. | |
to show the world that this country is a country | :23:23. | :23:25. | |
of extraordinary compassion. But at a time when immigration | :23:26. | :23:32. | |
is perhaps the nation's some have warned of the risks | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
of countries taking in large numbers of people | :23:36. | :23:43. | |
from a very different culture. Ukip leader Nigel Farage has drawn | :23:44. | :23:45. | |
widespread criticism this week by raising the spectre of sex | :23:46. | :23:47. | |
attacks by immigrants What's happened is a very large | :23:48. | :23:50. | |
number of young, single males have settled in Germany | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
and in Sweden, who come from cultures | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
where attitudes towards And the issue of how we as a country | :24:01. | :24:01. | |
handle the tension between common humanity and social cohesion has | :24:02. | :24:09. | |
come into focus here in Newcastle. In the Crown Court here today, | :24:10. | :24:12. | |
three young men have been charged with sexual assault | :24:13. | :24:14. | |
against a 14-year-old girl. One of them is also charged | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
with sexually assaulting All the accused have | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
pleaded not guilty. But at least one of those young | :24:25. | :24:32. | |
men is a Syrian refugee on the Government's resettlement | :24:33. | :24:35. | |
programme. People in Newcastle | :24:36. | :24:36. | |
are aware of just how Newsnight has been following | :24:37. | :24:38. | |
the family of one of those His name is Omar, 18, | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
originally from Damascus. The family fled to Jordan, | :24:44. | :24:52. | |
where they were selected by UNHCR to be resettled in Britain, | :24:53. | :24:54. | |
where they have lived A fourth youth aged 16 has also been | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
charged with sexual assault. and a sixth has been | :24:58. | :25:12. | |
released without charges. When this case comes | :25:13. | :25:23. | |
to trial later in the year, and not just by people | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
in the north-east. Its outcome could have serious | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
consequences for the Government's resettlement programme of Syrian | :25:31. | :25:32. | |
refugees and also for the already and we will of course follow | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
developments in that case. It was just as you would | :25:36. | :25:59. | |
have expected He was greeted by crowds lining | :26:00. | :26:01. | |
the streets, his body carried in a black limousine | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
through the streets of his past, They were throwing flowers | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
and chanting his name, some running alongside for segments | :26:10. | :26:11. | |
of the journey. But how do you remember | :26:12. | :26:13. | |
Muhammad Ali? The gentle man struggling | :26:14. | :26:15. | |
with Parkinson's, or the younger, grittier, angrier | :26:16. | :26:17. | |
political campaigner? We saw some of that persona in his | :26:18. | :26:18. | |
interview with Michael Parkinson after beating George Foreman | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
in the most famous boxing match in history, | :26:22. | :26:23. | |
the Rumble in the Jungle. Muhammad Ali! The interview was a | :26:24. | :26:35. | |
glimpse into Muhammad Ali as a performer and as a person. I told | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
him, OK, Sakho, I am backing up, take your best shot, show me | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
something, show me something, kid, you are not doing anything, you | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
ain't got nothing, show me something, you are just a kid! -- | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
sucker. At times, he runs rings around Parkinson. Why do you fight | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
people quite obviously not in your class? Like for example, who? Let me | :26:58. | :27:10. | |
put an even better question to you, and... Did you see him... Let me put | :27:11. | :27:22. | |
it another way, er, uh... LAUGHTER Not all of the interview was | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
conducted in good humour. You are a white man, how are you going to get | :27:27. | :27:34. | |
me on the TV and trapped me? Ain't no way, you can't beat me | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
physically, nor mentally. You are really a joke, I am serious, this is | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
a joke. During the at times fraught interview, Muhammad Ali makes | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
controversial statements about race and integration, this is when the | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
topic moved onto miniskirts. What man would want his woman covered up? | :27:53. | :28:00. | |
He can go to work knowing that she is not being chased for her behind | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
parts. I don't think there is any problem... That is because you are | :28:06. | :28:12. | |
white. John Nater... Your nature is not righteous. It is not because I | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
am white and you are black... That is nonsense and you know it. A | :28:19. | :28:25. | |
radical campaigner, and by the time that he died, a national treasure, | :28:26. | :28:26. | |
one man who was joining me now, Chuck D. Do you feel | :28:27. | :28:39. | |
that perhaps the more radical past of Muhammad Ali has been forgotten | :28:40. | :28:47. | |
this week, people like Donald Trump bemoaning his past, I wonder if you | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
think something of his past has been lost? If you cannot talk about | :28:51. | :28:59. | |
racism for a few days, that is truly Muhammad resting at peace, but the | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
reality, it still exists, and especially in the United States of | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
America, you guys over at the BBC, in the UK, you are shaking your head | :29:11. | :29:15. | |
is over what is going on over there. Monstrosity in politics. And a | :29:16. | :29:23. | |
presidential quest going on in the United States. Muhammad Ali, in all | :29:24. | :29:29. | |
walks of life, allowed us to speak and rage against such | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
ridiculousness. The anger and the expressions that he used, a lot of | :29:36. | :29:38. | |
the language you would say is inverse racism, when he talks about | :29:39. | :29:43. | |
whites in very generalising terms, but you think anybody can do that | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
now, even someone who felt there was injustice? Is that kind of language, | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
that kind of behaviour, is that acceptable today? Racism changes, it | :29:53. | :30:00. | |
changes in shape, it changes in regions, it changes its complexions | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
in a lot of different ways. You should speak out when you feel like | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
something is an just out there. Favouring one over another. -- an | :30:09. | :30:20. | |
just. -- unjust. Somebody who feels their faces being stepped on, they | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
should be able to speak out. The answer to racism, when it feels like | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
radiation. There is a lot of different ways in which racism | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
exists, Muhammad Ali, speaking in the 60s and 70s, he took advantage | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
of that voice, he spoke out, people were like, my goodness. When I did | :30:39. | :30:46. | |
it in the 1980s, being a musician, they thought that it was shocking. | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
But we learn from Muhammad Ali, what we have learned is that you need to | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
be able to be beyond yourself if you think there is injustice going on. | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
Use your platform. It was not just a national voice, it was seeing things | :31:02. | :31:07. | |
that were unfair around the planet. That is the way that it should be, | :31:08. | :31:13. | |
when it is not that way, why not speak out? How far do you think | :31:14. | :31:16. | |
America has come from his day, what percentage of the issues that were | :31:17. | :31:22. | |
facing him have now been resolved? There are still problems but how | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
far? 21st-century does not exist in the same way it is it about new | :31:29. | :31:31. | |
things have popped up, you look online, you see a lot of people | :31:32. | :31:35. | |
using the same language that people used 60 years ago, and they say, it | :31:36. | :31:41. | |
is called because it is socially accepted, but it is racially | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
derogatory. That is the seed of a problem. When you see people running | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
for the presidency of the United States and they talk about groupings | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
of people like they are inferior... That is a problem. That guy got a | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
public platform. You see racism behind closed doors. We as artists, | :32:02. | :32:07. | |
entertainers, athletes, we learn from Muhammad Ali, in the 1960s, we | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
speak out against that, we go further back, to people like Harry | :32:12. | :32:20. | |
Belafonte and Paul Robeson to transcend ourselves. Taking | :32:21. | :32:27. | |
advantage of the opportunity for the few to speak for the many. | :32:28. | :32:35. | |
That is all we have time for, but we do leave you with the news that | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
veteran crooner and no longer forever young Rod Stewart has been | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
given a knighthood. In the New Year 's Honours list. Good night. | :32:46. | :32:48. | |
Europe in just a moment but here at home, a messy picture. | :32:49. | :32:55. | |
Showers from the word go, it will not take much sunshine and warmth to | :32:56. | :33:02. | |
develop more showers during the day and some could be heavy | :33:03. | :33:03. |