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Donald Trump breaks with convention, appearing on the first day and using | :00:24. | :00:34. | |
his wife that is keynote speaker. The nomination moves into the final | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
phase, but he has had to fight a last rearguard action. Meanwhile, | :00:40. | :00:45. | |
his wife is a cruised of plagiarism. That your word is your bond and you | :00:46. | :00:52. | |
do what you say. That your word is your bond, that you say you are -- | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
that you do what you say you will. Will it get in that all-important | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
female vote? I think most women are like me. You have heard enough of it | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
through the years that you don't excuse it, and you don't embrace it, | :01:07. | :01:15. | |
but you push it aside. Also tonight: Argue supporting Jeremy Corbyn? Are | :01:16. | :01:24. | |
you interested in voting for Jeremy Corbyn? | :01:25. | :01:25. | |
It certainly feels like summer, but it is no summer of love | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
The campaign to topple Jeremy Corbyn is underway | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
I'm not convinced Owen Smith can win an election. Jeremy Corbyn | :01:31. | :01:45. | |
definitely can't. We will have to disagree. | :01:46. | :01:46. | |
And the great debate about handing over ARM Holdings to the Japanese. | :01:47. | :01:53. | |
We speak to the last man to sell a British technology | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
Good evening from Cleveland, Ohio, for the Republican convention has | :01:57. | :02:16. | |
been dominated by a row about plagiarism. Mrs Trump accused of | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
using parts of an old speech, recycling perhaps, that me Shell | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
Obama made some eight years ago to kick-off the convention as a keynote | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
last night. In some ways it is just a continuation of things that Mr | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
Trump has been accused of over the years, blasting his name and brand | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
onto a range of things he did not entirely create, is perhaps it has | :02:41. | :02:48. | |
-- perhaps it is that the speeches sound pretty much the same, whoever | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
wrote them and indeed whoever delivers them. But the words which | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
have, we understand, infuriated Trump, at least overshadowed a | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
last-ditch attempt to overturn the nomination and stop it going to him. | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
We headed to the convention for itself for a bit of the backbiting | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
and gossip which make up part of convention life here. | :03:12. | :03:19. | |
The convention normally signifies the high watermark of the | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
candidate's ascendancy, the moment when the great and the good of the | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
party of speeches and endorsements. This will be remembered not for who | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
came Butler who chose to stay away. Three former Republican nominees. | :03:36. | :03:43. | |
Who is talking? You will find out it is most of Mr Trump's family. It was | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
kicked off by his supermodel wife. First up, Melania Trump, | :03:48. | :03:55. | |
introduced by the man himself. All good, until a journalist spots | :03:56. | :04:05. | |
the similarities with a speech Michelle Obama had made, | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
some eight years ago. Whenever you have such an amazing | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
group of people, and the message they were bringing forward, | :04:12. | :04:17. | |
you've got to find something. They found something | :04:18. | :04:19. | |
with Melania's speech. I don't think it was plagiarism, | :04:20. | :04:20. | |
I think she spoke from her heart, and she is not the only woman | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
who has a child who is worried Many here saw the row | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
as confected conspiracy. Nevertheless, the blame game has | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
begun, with Trump said to be furious He has just doused the flames | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
of the last row, a vote on the floor by some delegates, | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
they say to change rules But others saw this as an 11th hour | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
plot to try to stop Trump by one There is still a contingent | :04:46. | :04:52. | |
of people that are clinging to power in the final hours, | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
in a desperate manner, trying to pull ridiculous floor | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
moves, saying it was about rules. Ted Cruz, and the | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
Never Trump people. Ken Kuching, Nellie from Virginia, | :05:03. | :05:12. | |
what they did is they attempted a ruse, a guise, a fraud, | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
and basically the biggest lie in this convention | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
is that this fight had Is this about the next | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
time round, then? No, we had things about getting rid | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
of lawyers on the RNC, things about taking away powers | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
from the chairman of the RNC, We put in changes to get at the most | :05:35. | :05:36. | |
outrageous things that Donald Trump rightfully complained | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
about in the nomination process, we put amendments in to change that, | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
and they were shot down by the RNC So, is the coup attempt properly | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
over? Watch what happens when I | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
asked the former Texas Oh, I think it's always, | :05:55. | :05:56. | |
it's democracy, this is what we do. Sometimes folks in other places | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
don't understand that's how democracy works, | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
but this is nothing out Is he rattled by what | :06:06. | :06:07. | |
he has heard today? Team Trump were putting a united | :06:08. | :06:17. | |
front on, his newly appointed running mate Mike Pence centrestage, | :06:18. | :06:26. | |
the man, rumour has it, Trump regretted the moment | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
he'd appointed him. So I caught up with the man long | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
expected to be Trump's running mate, Governor, are you feeling | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
confident about By the way, we're just next | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
in New Hampshire, it is over, buddy! Did they get the wrong | :06:39. | :06:49. | |
VP, sir? I've no idea, you'll have | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
to ask him. Did he tell you about | :06:55. | :07:01. | |
that, did he call you? I don't ever talk about my | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
conversations with Donald. Chris Christie scuttling away on | :07:07. | :07:18. | |
that question of whether he might have been the right vice | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
presidential choice. People speak on the main stage tonight, endorsing | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
Donald Trump as the best man to be president. Let's talk to our guests. | :07:26. | :07:34. | |
Nice to have both of you. How do you see this? Is it going well for Trump | :07:35. | :07:41. | |
so far? There are blips and accusations of plagiarism. And the | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
fact that the speeches went on way too long last night. Some of this is | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
just convention bumps. They never go perfectly. But I think it is unusual | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
just how bumpy this has been. The question is, how many people are | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
paying attention? I think some people are starting to tune in and | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
they might be confused by what is happening in this election. The Fox | :08:04. | :08:15. | |
viewing audience know this intimately. The American population | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
in general is not familiar with it and there were some ins and outs to | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
the scandal last night. That might be some confusion about who we are | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
nominating here and what the future is that we are talking about. When | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
we're talking about who we are nominating, do we think that is now | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
the end of that last-ditch attempt? We spoke to the plotters last night | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
and they have said, we are moving on. It was over weeks ago, actually. | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
It does not mean that the Republican party is unified. One of the great | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
challenges of the next few days is to demonstrate to the American | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
people, if you cannot bring a political party together, how can | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
you bring a nation together? In focus group, the number one | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
complaint about this election cycle is that it is causing greater | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
divisiveness. They are angry at both candidates for being so negative. It | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
is essential for Trump if he is to have a reasonable shot that they | :09:09. | :09:16. | |
walk away from here, and the religious, economic conservatives | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
and moderates are in line. That would have been true in the past, | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
but the way that Trump operates is this idea of yin and yang. When he | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
criticises one group, another group adores him. Maybe he can get by | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
without unifying. Hillary Clinton has the same challenge on the | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
Democratic side. There is still one in four Bernie Sanders voters who | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
does not want to vote for Hillary Clinton. She cannot win without | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
bringing them over. Hillary Clinton has been so present in the speeches. | :09:49. | :09:57. | |
She is like the which enemy in terms of nominees. And you are using | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
language that they were deuce. It is graphic language to use to describe | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
an enemy. And she is described as an enemy. It is not my worthy opponent, | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
the leader of the other party. There used to be a tradition that we are | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
old enough to remember that you did not name your opponent at all. You | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
referred to the other party or your challenger. They are not even | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
running against the Democrats, they are running against Hillary, and I | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
think the problem is that we have the most unpopular candidates in the | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
history of modern electoral politics. They are continuing to | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
drive each other down, and that is turning off a lot of people. Young | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
people are incredibly disappointed. This is the common than later. You | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
mention Hillary, and then you mention a placard saying Hillary the | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
prison. You mention Benghazi, and then you say, why should we try to | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
stop was when we should be winning them? It appeals to a lower common | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
than later. The first person to use the word enemy was Hillary Clinton | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
in one of the only democratic debates. They asked, who is your | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
enemy? She said, the Republican party. That has never happened | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
before. It goes both ways. I think that is correct. She said that. I am | :11:17. | :11:23. | |
not always sympathetic to but she is sometimes at her best when she is | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
tangling with whom she identifies as her enemy. She is not a uniter | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
herself. She does best in tough mode. Briefly, we were expecting the | :11:35. | :11:41. | |
whole convention to be overrun with protest and quite solid angry | :11:42. | :11:44. | |
protest. You think that is still to come, do you? I do. The helicopters, | :11:45. | :11:52. | |
I was listening to the police scanner, and they think it is about | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
one fifth of a mile from the convention hall. They will have a | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
problem tonight, so there are more police ear, greater concern for | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
security. It will happen at both conventions. One thing we should say | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
is, the reason there was so much attention paid to Melania's speech | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
last night and today is that Melania speaks to women and Republicans need | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
women. 53% of the US electorate are women, and they need that votes to | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
really turn this around. We will be hearing about the women's vote | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
little later in the programme. Back to you. | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
Thank you very much indeed. So, who will be leader | :12:32. | :12:33. | |
of the opposition? Shortly after 5 o'clock this | :12:34. | :12:35. | |
afternoon, we learned that it's not She withdrew, clear that she had | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
less support from MPs than her rival There's no formal rule that stops | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
a woman rising to the top of the Labour Party, | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
it just never seems to happen. And so the great contest | :12:48. | :12:49. | |
this summer is between It's already underway, | :12:50. | :12:51. | |
and if you support the aims of the Labour Party, | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
you can vote in it if you want by paying ?25 | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
and registering by 5pm tomorrow. More expensive than voting | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
in X Factor, but more important too. Our political editor Nick Watt | :13:04. | :13:05. | |
is with me. Nick, the campaigns have started | :13:06. | :13:15. | |
coming the race is on. But do we know so far? Mixed picture for | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. He took a hit today when his attempts to overturn some | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
strict rules of the NEC, ?25 to be a registered supporter, that stays. A | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
February cut-off to be a member, that stays. It appears that around | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
40,000 people may have signed up as registered supporters. The deadline | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
is tomorrow. We know that because a Labour figure says the party has | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
taken ?1 million in the last few days will stop divide that by 25 and | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
you get 40,000. We know that Jeremy Corbyn is trying to reprieve is the | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
successful tactics he had last year, so lots of union support. A senior | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
source told me that there are 50 people operating telephones in Unite | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
offices today, talking to supporters. Momentum, the group | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
supporting Corbin, they sent out an e-mail to supporters saying, you can | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
phone up, canvas people from the comfort of your sitting room using | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
our special application. They devised that last year and it worked | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
very well. We will discuss this in a few minutes, but if Jeremy Corbyn | :14:20. | :14:21. | |
wins, does the party split? I sense that the anti-Corbyn forces | :14:22. | :14:32. | |
since they face a formidable challenge because there was that | :14:33. | :14:35. | |
YouGov poll that said Jeremy Corbyn was ahead against any candidate. But | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
I do not sense there is an appetite for a split. There is an appetite | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
for amongst the plotters amongst them is for a war of attrition. To | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
keep coming back, to say that he will fail, to come back again, and | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
interestingly denied there was talk on providing the tradition that was | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
abandoned by Ed Miliband, to have elections to the Shadow Cabinet, and | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
what that would mean would be that Jeremy Corbyn would not be able to | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
appoint his Shadow Cabinet, and remember 176 out of 231 Labour MPs | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
said they had no confident in him. They would be appointing the Shadow | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
Cabinet. We will talk about some of that. | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
Well, I would say that it feels like a right royal battle | :15:20. | :15:21. | |
for the heart and soul of the Labour party, except many in the party | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
But what is clear is that a weird democratic experiment is underway. | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
Given the window of 48 hours in which you can pay, | :15:30. | :15:31. | |
register and then vote, the whole campaigning effort | :15:32. | :15:33. | |
by the different sides is directed at getting supporters to sign up. | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
And all by tomorrow afternoon at five. | :15:37. | :15:38. | |
A huge mobilisation is underway: grassroots campaigners. | :15:39. | :15:39. | |
There is the Momentum group, backing Jeremy Corbyn. | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
And another group called Saving Labour, backing | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
Secunder Kermani has spent the last two days on the Labour front line. | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
A warning, his piece contained some comradely language. | :15:50. | :15:58. | |
Are you interested in voting against Jeremy Corbyn? Across the country | :15:59. | :16:06. | |
rival Labour factions are battling it out, vying for the backing of | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
party member is. But the focus now is on ordinary supporters, who have | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
until tomorrow afternoon to register for a say in the leadership race if | :16:19. | :16:26. | |
they paid ?25. Jeremy Corbyn is a... Disgrace. Rush-hour in central | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
London, and Saving Labour are trying to convince people to sign up to | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
vote out Jeremy Corbyn. Have never known a time like it, this guy is | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
appalling at every level. I'm Jewish as well, so I am feeling the | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
anti-Semitism in my own party, and quite frankly now is the time for | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
people to actually step forward, and I'm thinking of it myself at the | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
moment, to actually step forward and actually save this party. If Mr | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
Miliband, and I'm talking about David now, actually thinks anything | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
of this party now, OK, so his charity job in New York City, get | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
back and sort this out. But right now we need you to sign up, and get | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
rid of Corbyn, I know it is along the than that but it is like | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
chopping the head off a monster. We are campaigning for strong | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
leadership. You don't think Corbyn is a strong leader? About you like | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
his values but the could you think it is not going to get support, you | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
are... It is complicated in that we agree with the politics as a | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
whole... Then you shouldn't be like they are not getting enough support, | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
let's support someone who might be stronger? Meanwhile, during a sunny | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
Sheffield lunch hour, the left-wing campaign group Memorandum are making | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
the case for Jeremy Corbyn. I followed it online, on Facebook. He | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
said... He said some good stuff can he wants to hear everybody's posts, | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
anyway. He stands up for the working class, so that's what I like about | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
him. I might register. You have got until tomorrow at 5pm. And its ?25? | :18:02. | :18:09. | |
It is, but it's worth having a say, isn't it? The Labour Party is being | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
destroyed, and he is part of that distraction. He really is. How can | :18:14. | :18:20. | |
he hold power with all the time he is sat on the backbenches and never | :18:21. | :18:23. | |
voted with the Labour Party, practically? He has always voted. He | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
has been safer on the left wing, you have to have the consensus. It is on | :18:30. | :18:35. | |
his conscience. Based on either his conscience or the consensus of his | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
constituents. With Labour's divide running so deep, there was talk of | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
the split becoming permanent. The supporters, you have lost them in | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
Scotland. I do understand that. Perhaps we should not be having this | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
conversation about saving Labour, perhaps we should have a new Labour. | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
I don't think that could work, in the long-term, totally. I don't | :18:58. | :19:05. | |
think there is a strong candidate. Trident is a point of difference. Is | :19:06. | :19:11. | |
that so important you that you would rather lose an election for that? I | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
am not convinced Owen Smith can win an election. I mean, Jeremy Corbyn | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
definitely can't. That is where we will have two agree to disagree. A | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
poll out today suggested Jeremy Corbyn would definitely win the | :19:29. | :19:31. | |
race, although if trusts the Poles these days? We can only win if we | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
are in government -- who trusts the polls these days. He does have the | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
right values. But he is not the right person to get it into | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
government. The polling would suggest otherwise. Then you should | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
change the Poles, make people vote for him. I'm going to vote for | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
Jonah? Yes, because I like him, let him breathe. Let him breathe a | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
little bit and get his thoughts together. Where was he when we have | :20:03. | :20:11. | |
the referendum? Did you know that Jeremy Corbyn gave the highest | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
number of speeches out of any member of the Labour speeches during the EU | :20:15. | :20:22. | |
referendum? It would be wrong to write off the anti-Corbyn faction. | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
Unless people like you sign up it won't work. OK, look, I'll sign up. | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
Especially with a long-term -- summer campaigning ahead to | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
influence party members, but the Corbyn campaign does inspire a | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
passion that is harder for moderates to match. Anyone who was not a party | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
member has an 5pm tomorrow to be able to register to cast a vote for | :20:44. | :20:45. | |
either side. I'm joined by Stephen Kinnock MP, | :20:46. | :20:47. | |
who is supporting Owen Smith. And by James Schneider | :20:48. | :20:50. | |
from the pro-Jeremy Evening to you both. James, if Owen | :20:51. | :21:01. | |
Smith wins the leadership, will you go out and that the Labour? You will | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
accept the result? Absolutely, everyone should accept the result, | :21:08. | :21:10. | |
we have a democratic election and whoever wins get behind who | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
supported and move forward as a party, absolutely. I have to ask you | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
the same question that Jeremy Corbyn, Steve? I will be continued | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
to be honoured to serve my constituents from the backbenches. I | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
have voted in favour of vote of no-confidence in Germany, that means | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
I could not possibly serve on the front bench, though I would likely | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
be invited to do so. Nick Watt, our political editor, said earlier that | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
the plan might be for a war of attrition against Jeremy Corbyn if | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
he wins, as seems likely. An attempt to get Shadow Cabinet elections, | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
which would show him with a Shadow Cabinet he doesn't really want. | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
Would you serve in the Shadow Cabinet if there were elected Shadow | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
Cabinet members? I think it is a real struggle to serve somebody | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
where you have actually voted that you have no confidence in their | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
leadership. But I don't want as they collate about that. I want to say is | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
that we now have Owen Smith as a very talented politician coming | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
forward with the courage to stand up and save the Labour Party. And I'm | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
absolutely convinced that over the coming months we will see the | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
opinion of the membership swinging behind Owen, precisely because if we | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
don't have a new leader we cannot form a credible opposition. If you | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
can't form a front bench you don't function as a credible opposition. | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
This is about saving our democracy as much about saving the Labour | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
Party poster the war of attrition, some people have their head in their | :22:35. | :22:36. | |
hands in despair at the idea that to be resolved, and we just | :22:37. | :22:57. | |
face, essentially, a continual battle within the opposition, rather | :22:58. | :22:59. | |
than a battle between the opposition and the government. Yes, I find the | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
idea of a war of attrition extremely disappointing. What we need to see | :23:03. | :23:04. | |
at the end of the leadership election is as many MPs as possible | :23:05. | :23:06. | |
working behind the leader, whichever one is elected, and also working | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
with the party members who stop we are now the largest left of centre | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
party in Europe. It will increase I think after membership opens again. | :23:13. | :23:14. | |
40,000 a or something. See if the registered supporters want to join. | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
Momentum have been making lots of phone calls, lots of interest. When | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
it do is make an asset out of our membership from that may have. But | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
you will oppose as vigorously as you can MPs voting for the Shadow | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
Cabinet, I assume, because that would just showed of the leader with | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
a Shadow Cabinet who disagree with improbably on everything. That is | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
something that would have to go through party conferences, not | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
something I have thought about. Can I ask you about Owen Smith? You | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
think he will win. In his background, I know the times are | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
reporting on this tomorrow, he was a lobbyist, he served for Pfizer, the | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
American pharmaceutical country. Will that be held against him? No, | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
because what Owen represents is a new chapter, a fresh start for the | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
party. He entered Parliament in 2010, he is not brown eyed, Labour | :24:04. | :24:10. | |
light -- Blairite, he did his lunch from his constituency. That is where | :24:11. | :24:13. | |
he has lived his politics and learned his politics. He has Labour | :24:14. | :24:18. | |
values and he has had the coach -- the courage and determination to | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
stand in what is a difficult time for our party and I'm convinced the | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
membership will get behind him because he has the values and | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
determination we need to win. You know his position on the private | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
health care in the NHS is what? What is his position on that now? Owen | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
has come out and said very clearly that we need things like a new deal | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
for Britain, ?200 billion to invest in our working class in stop private | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
health care in the NHS, do you know what his view is? Owen is a | :24:48. | :24:56. | |
Bevan-ite, he supports the NHS free at the point of delivery. He will | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
stand behind that. We will potentially get back to that. Can I | :25:01. | :25:09. | |
ask you...? . Jeremy Corbyn's position is on that? We have known | :25:10. | :25:17. | |
that quite some time! The party will declare UDI, they will then get the | :25:18. | :25:20. | |
money that the state gets the opposition, they become the | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
opposition in parliament, they get the money that the opposition get in | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
Parliament. That would leave you or your side, your residual Labour | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
Party, you could have all the people on the streets, but it leaves your | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
residual Labour Party in some trouble, doesn't it? I don't think | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
that is a very helpful hypothetical, we have a leadership election that | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
will be about policies and ideas, then afterwards we need to have | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
members who seem to overwhelmingly support Corbyn and the MPs need to | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
talk and many to understand what one another's positions are. I think | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
there has been too little so far of the MPs understanding the direction | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
that the members want to take on how they wish to transform the party. We | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
have to remember it is not like Labour is in difficulty now. We have | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
had two bad general election defeat. There is a crisis for social | :26:06. | :26:07. | |
democracy across the Western Road and we need to have a new model | :26:08. | :26:13. | |
party fit for the 20th century -- 21st century, and we need to hear a | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
lock knife that getting through to MPs. As that message does get | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
through and MPs do respect the democratic manga -- mandate that | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
hopefully Jeremy Corbyn will win again we hopefully would have these | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
discussions again. Can you tell me, Stephen Kinnock, you have not been | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
in any conversations about such a scenario, are plotting a proper | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
trajectory would be if it was necessary? Absolutely, and I can | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
tell you I joined the Labour Party in 1985. You have not had any | :26:45. | :26:47. | |
conversations about the party splitting? No, there was only one | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
Labour Party, it is the party I believe it is the one I joined. It | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
believes in gaining power for working people through a | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
Parliamentary democracy. We knows you can't do that when you have a | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
leader who has lost the confidence of the Parliamentary Labour Party. | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
If you have that leader, what happens? Those of us who have given | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
a motion of no-confidence will be honoured to serve from the | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
backbenches, and it will be up to the leader to see how he forms a | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
credible opposition. I see it a very difficult challenge him to face, but | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
what I also knows that we now Owen Smith in place, the party unites | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
behind him and we will win this. It will be an interesting summer. Thank | :27:30. | :27:31. | |
you both very much. When we voted for Brexit four weeks | :27:32. | :27:34. | |
ago, was Britain taking a stand not just against the EU, | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
but against globalisation We have had one of the more | :27:38. | :27:39. | |
internationalised economies in Europe; we rely more than most | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
on foreign investment, We're a big player in international | :27:43. | :27:45. | |
diplomacy and law. Many Brexit supporters said Britain | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
would be more outward if we left the EU, looking beyond | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
Europe to the world. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
reiterated that goal I want us to reshape | :27:57. | :27:58. | |
Britain's profile as an even greater global nation, | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
a Britain that is more active, more outward-facing, | :28:06. | :28:16. | |
more energetic on the world stage Of course, | :28:17. | :28:18. | |
some voters want less globalisation And the Foreign Secretary's | :28:19. | :28:26. | |
sentiment there makes the proposed Japanese takeover of ARM Holdings | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
a particularly One of Britain's champion tech | :28:32. | :28:32. | |
companies. There is a live debate | :28:33. | :28:39. | |
as to whether this kind Some welcome it as proof that | :28:40. | :28:41. | |
Britain is still there, integrating But if we choose to obstruct it, | :28:42. | :28:45. | |
what does it say about Well, I'm joined by Mike Lynch, | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
an entrepreneur and the co-founder Autonomy was sold to Hewlett-Packard | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
for $11 billion dollars in 2011. A very good evening to you. Why did | :28:54. | :29:05. | |
you feel you needed to sell Autonomy, and didn't keep running it | :29:06. | :29:09. | |
as an autonomous British company? One of the great myths about a | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
British company is that under the rules of the UK stuck each change, | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
the board can't stop it. Unlike in America where have poison and | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
things, if someone comes along and offers you a nice premium above the | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
normal amount, 50%, either the company gets hold of you are no | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
longer in charge! It is a complete myth that there was a choice, there | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
was no choice when the premium gets so high. When Autonomy was sold, and | :29:34. | :29:38. | |
it was painful, they paid a lot more than most people think the company | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
was probably worth. Is it good for Britain to sell something before it | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
is at a price that is, you know, a good price come because we get the | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
money? Or is it bad the Bit On The Side things, even at a good price? | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
Actually in technology, these mark-ups are normal, so we don't | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
have that many technology companies in the UK, so we're used to seeing | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
20%, 30%, and actually 50% is a normal price in technology. These | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
are normal pricings. But ARM did incredibly well, going from a | :30:09. | :30:10. | |
start-up up to ?24 billion sale. If you are asking what happens to | :30:11. | :30:21. | |
the British input to this company, the staff, the brainpower, the | :30:22. | :30:23. | |
institutional history, that company you sold, Autonomy, where is | :30:24. | :30:29. | |
everyone who was involved in Autonomy? Are the unemployed, do | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
they have jobs, has science been harmed? One aspect of technology is | :30:34. | :30:40. | |
the people. They went, they went to HP, they left HP and now there are a | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
large number of companies that they have gone and started. I was | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
counting up the ones that I know of, and they are worth over ?1 billion | :30:49. | :30:55. | |
already. It didn't do us any harm? I don't think so, but I am optimistic | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
about the ARM deal, because the Japanese entrepreneur is a | :31:02. | :31:04. | |
visionary. ARM is a visionary company and I think this one will | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
work. Even if it doesn't, I think you would have a load of wonderfully | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
talented people in the UK starting new businesses. The problem is not | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
with the giants that gets sold at amazing prices, it is when our | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
wonderfully clever companies get sold at 100 million. When ARM leave | :31:23. | :31:29. | |
the stock exchange, there is nothing to replace it. That is the problem. | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
You would not stop the ARM sale at this point. If the Japanese want to | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
buy it, you would not get in the way. If investors know that it won't | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
be sold to someone, that trickles all the way down. Your worries about | :31:44. | :31:50. | |
smaller companies, and what is it about them that stops them growing | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
into ARM? The London stock exchange does not function well for tech | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
businesses. They get to ?100 billion, someone makes an offer, and | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
the people who have invested and done the work think, I cannot list | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
it in London. We have the biggest stock exchange in Europe, why not? | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
If you were a hard-working FTSE 100 fund manager, you need to know about | :32:15. | :32:19. | |
retail, or oil and so on, and there is one software company, so you | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
don't know much about it. So there is a critical mass. Yellow might | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
guess, if we can get a few of the companies to list, the virtual | :32:30. | :32:37. | |
circle kicks in and hopefully we will have billion-dollar tech | :32:38. | :32:37. | |
businesses listed in London. One thing you'll hear a lot | :32:38. | :32:44. | |
between now and November is that the female vote | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
is very important. Apart from women being half | :32:48. | :32:49. | |
the population, obviously. It's firstly that women's turnout | :32:50. | :32:52. | |
exceeds men's in the States. Have a look at this graph - | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
it shows every presidential election since 1980, | :32:56. | :32:57. | |
the female turnout in purple higher But there's also this: | :32:58. | :32:59. | |
since Bill Clinton won in 1992, women have always preferred | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
the Democratic nominee at every But currying favour with women | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
is tricky for Mr Trump. According to the latest Pew research | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
poll, in a head to head between Hillary Clinton | :33:17. | :33:19. | |
and Donald Trump, women would go Katty Kay has been | :33:20. | :33:23. | |
finding out for us. You call women you don't | :33:24. | :33:33. | |
like fat pigs, dogs, Donald Trump's rhetoric | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
towards women has become a flash point in a presidential election | :33:37. | :33:50. | |
that will pit a man against a woman. It's said to be the most | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
gender-driven election in US history, with Hillary Clinton | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
the first ever female nominee The only card she has | :34:00. | :34:02. | |
is the woman's card. If talking about these issues | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
is playing the woman's The biggest reason the two | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
candidates are carefully courting women in this campaign is that women | :34:12. | :34:18. | |
will control who wins More women vote in America than men, | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
and research shows they have decided Donald Trump is currently polling | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
worse with women than any presidential candidate since 1972, | :34:27. | :34:37. | |
but many women inside the Republican One high-profile supporter | :34:38. | :34:39. | |
on Capitol Hill is Congresswoman When he stood up there in the debate | :34:40. | :34:49. | |
and made a not very subtle reference to the size of his penis, | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
I watched that and, as a mother of four children, | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
I thought, I don't think I want my young daughter | :34:58. | :35:00. | |
watching this on television. And those are the things | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
you look at and say, Whether it was working in a male | :35:04. | :35:05. | |
dominated profession or here in Washington, | :35:06. | :35:13. | |
you have people that say inappropriate things, | :35:14. | :35:20. | |
and I think most women are like me. You have heard enough of it | :35:21. | :35:23. | |
through the years that And you don't embrace it, | :35:24. | :35:25. | |
but you push it aside. The women Trump really needs to win | :35:26. | :35:32. | |
over live in the suburbs of swing This is where this election | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
will be decided. It's hard to believe that this | :35:37. | :35:43. | |
sleepy neighbourhood is the front line in the battle for the White | :35:44. | :35:46. | |
House. But if you are a college educated, | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
white, single woman living in a suburb of Philadelphia | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
like this, you are the hottest At a social event for | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
the nonpartisan League of Women Voters in Philadelphia, | :35:57. | :36:06. | |
we met Laura, Suzanne and Kelly. What are the things that matter to | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
you from a presidential candidate? I think it is important to discuss | :36:13. | :36:15. | |
the economy, to discuss It is really important | :36:16. | :36:17. | |
to discuss education. I am looking to make sure that | :36:18. | :36:21. | |
everyone has access to health care, to quality education, | :36:22. | :36:24. | |
that income inequality, if we don't What you think about the tone | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
of this election campaign? It is the language that we haven't | :36:28. | :36:35. | |
heard really overtly in decades, and it is as if people have been | :36:36. | :36:38. | |
given permission now, because of the level of vitriol | :36:39. | :36:41. | |
in the discourse, to say those things out loud, | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
and it's very troubling. Millions of women did vote | :36:46. | :36:51. | |
for Trump in the primaries. She will be a Pennsylvania | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
delegate for Trump at Lynn owns a gardening business | :36:55. | :37:00. | |
and likes Trump's views on trade. I think he will do the best job | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
to keep us safe, and to try And he definitely knows how | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
to run a business. Beyond the economy, the attacks | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
in Orlando shook America We are going to go to Philadelphia, | :37:16. | :37:30. | |
and we're going to win in November. Lynn is clearly not moved | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
by the historic nature of Hillary Clinton's candidacy, | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
but for many American women, the possibility of putting a woman | :37:38. | :37:39. | |
in the White House after 44 male Is it important for you that she is | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
a woman and would be Of course it is, you can't not see | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
that, it is so important. The campaign has thrown up | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
an interesting phenomenon - a generation gap among female | :37:52. | :37:53. | |
voters. Older women seem to support Clinton | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
because they urgently want Younger women tend to feel confident | :37:59. | :38:00. | |
that they are going to get a female president at some point | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
in their lifetime, they are just not sure they want it | :38:06. | :38:07. | |
to be Hillary Clinton. Amy Klobuchar, a Democratic senator | :38:08. | :38:09. | |
from Minnesota does think that Hillary Clinton will successfully | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
reach younger voters. You have a new generation that | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
did not see her in those roles, and many of them were hardly voting | :38:19. | :38:24. | |
when she was Secretary of State, so you have that issue, | :38:25. | :38:27. | |
and she needs to reintroduce herself in a non-primary setting | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
when it is her versus Trump. Loudoun County in Northern Virginia | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
is a key swing district and a reliable bellwether | :38:38. | :38:40. | |
for the state. Women here are a must-win | :38:41. | :38:47. | |
for Clinton and for Trump. So you are going to | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
lunge, fly and back up. This woman runs a gym | :38:51. | :39:00. | |
and is a classic swing voter - economically Conservative | :39:01. | :39:06. | |
but socially liberal. She has voted both Republican | :39:07. | :39:08. | |
and Democrat in the past and is struggling with | :39:09. | :39:10. | |
who to vote for this year. We need to regulate the economics | :39:11. | :39:13. | |
in this country more. That is probably my | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
draw to Donald Trump. He is a businessman, | :39:18. | :39:20. | |
he has the economic background and he has made a successful | :39:21. | :39:22. | |
business of it. For foreign policy background, | :39:23. | :39:25. | |
I am drawn to Hillary Clinton. I trust someone who has sat | :39:26. | :39:27. | |
at the table and held I am torn between being | :39:28. | :39:30. | |
a businesswoman and being a woman. Of course, no one knows precisely | :39:31. | :39:43. | |
how many women will vote or which candidate they will vote | :39:44. | :39:46. | |
for, if we did, we could say already What we do know is that women | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
will decide who lives in the White House after Barack Obama, | :39:51. | :39:58. | |
whether it is America's 45th male The British people have spoken, and | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
the answer is... I love this country, and I feel | :40:02. | :40:11. | |
honoured to have served it. A political landscape | :40:12. | :40:24. | |
changed for ever. I know that virtually none | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
of you have ever done The Scottish Parliament | :40:27. | :40:28. | |
should have the right Exactly one month after | :40:29. | :40:40. | |
the UK's momentous vote... Brexit means Brexit, | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
and we're going to ..Newsnight hosts a special day | :40:47. | :40:48. | |
of discussion and debate on Brexit Britain, a divided nation, | :40:49. | :40:56. | |
and its relationship with the rest Tickets for this event, | :40:57. | :40:59. | |
run in partnership with Intelligence Squared, | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
are available via the Newsnight website. | :41:05. | :41:06. | |
and we will be live on BBC Two We're going to make sure it rains on | :41:07. | :41:23. | |
Saturday, so you might as well buy tickets and come along. | :41:24. | :41:24. | |
We leave you with a memo to Downing Street - | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
this is possibly not the best time for playing practical jokes | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
It is a one night ahead, but a thundery one for Northern Ireland. | :41:32. | :41:56. | |
The thundery rain will move up across Scotland on Wednesday. | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
Elsewhere, hefty shout was breaking out, but good spells of sunshine, | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
and the winds are coming from the West, cooling things down. 17 | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
Celsius in Belfast, with | :42:09. | :42:09. |