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Once he was the High Vis Chancellor, now he's been disappeared. | :00:00. | :00:09. | |
Is the PM intending to cut George Osborne's | :00:10. | :00:19. | |
We've learned that Theresa May may abandon his language of a Golden Era | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
between China and the UK - will the change of tone | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
If we're resetting China downwards, and we're resetting Europe | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
downwards, and we're faced with the possibility of Mr Trump | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
in the United States, who are we going to reset upwards? | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
Just I get Coca-Cola to my face. | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
And swearing at me, in the middle of the day. | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
They say, "You BLEEP refugee, why are you speaking your | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
A month after Brexit, the migrants of Corby | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
are waiting to hear their fate, and whether they're | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
And remember this token of a bygone age? | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
The British passport wasn't so much something you presented | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
for inspection by some grubby little border policeman, | :01:06. | :01:12. | |
These days they have something smaller and flimsier | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
and looking like a passbook of the Nuneaton Building Society. | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
Is it time for the British passport to make a dignified comeback? | :01:19. | :01:29. | |
There's sacking a man, and then there's dismantling his | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
entire decade's work - and right now, it's not | :01:35. | :01:36. | |
entirely clear which path Theresa May will chose. | :01:37. | :01:38. | |
But the signs over the past couple of weeks suggest she was no fan | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
of George Osborne or his policies in government. | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
The Prime Minister has launched an industrial strategy, | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
which some are reading as a reversal of many of her former colleague's | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
priorities: Her instant rejection of the austerity project, | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
her calculated pause over Hinckley Point, her reconfiguration | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
of the Northern Powerhouse to include all UK cities. | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
Osborne is rumoured to have said he was prepared to be the most | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
unpopular man in Britain to get things done. | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
For a while every tweet he sent out seemed to confirm that ambition | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
But what if his legacy is now being used - | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
by the new PM - to take economic policy in a whole new directio, | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
even resetting the relationship with China? | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
In office he heralded the march of the makers, but the one-time maker | :02:24. | :02:40. | |
in chief is now a mere bystander, as his legacy is unceremoniously | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
marched off stage. Today marks the moment when Theresa May moved on | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
from Osborne economics as she summoned ministers for a new Cabinet | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
committee which will set her government's overall approach on the | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
economy. That rather 1970s notion of an industrial strategy is back, and | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
relations with China have taken a bit of a hit, after a review was | :03:05. | :03:11. | |
announced into the Hinckley know -- nuclear power plant. Downing Street | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
insists the delay with Hinkley Point is to allow the new Prime Minister | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
to study the details of such a mammoth project, but Newsnight | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
understands that Theresa May intends, at the very least, to | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
oversee a modest resetting of Britain's relations with Beijing. | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
Officials speak of a tonal change, in which there will be no more talk | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
of a golden era in which, as George Osborne used to say, Britain would | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
act as China's best partner in the West. | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
I don't think that Theresa May and Philip Hammond come from quite the | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
same angle that George Osborne did on this. May, coming from a Home | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
Office angle, might have a little more concerned about some of the | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
human rights types of questions associated with China, and I think | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
that George Osborne saw China, China's ambition to get into the | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
European Union via the UK as an important part of his own strategy. | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
That isn't going to happen now in the same way, so I think there is | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
some rethink about what the nature of the engagement with China is. But | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
former ministers have told Newsnight they are surprised that the new | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
Prime Minister is willing to risk Britain's reputation as a stable | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
investment destination by such an abrupt move on Hinkley Point. | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
I certainly don't think we should be grovelling, should be kowtowing. We | :04:35. | :04:40. | |
should treat the Chinese with respect and expect them to do the | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
same here, which is broadly what has happened so far. If we're resetting | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
China downwards, and we're resetting Europe downwards and web based with | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
the possibility of Mr Trump in the United States, who are we going to | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
reset upwards? This is a question worrying quite a lot of people, | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
probably. Theresa May believes one of the key challenges for Britain | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
outside the EU lies in rebalancing the economy and improving | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
productivity, by revising two words rarely heard since the days of the | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
coalition, industrial strategy. It is welcome Theresa May is reviving | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
industrial strategy, it is something we did in the coalition, it was very | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
popular with the business community, particularly people in manufacturing | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
and creative industries. It gives long-term confidence to our | :05:34. | :05:39. | |
industries here and it's a way by which government and business can | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
work together. I was very sad that it fell into decline when the Tories | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
took power, but if Mrs May wants to revive it, that's very welcome. | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
George Osborne's pet project, creating a Northern Powerhouse, has | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
been reconfigured as the new Cabinet committee made clear it aims to | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
boost all parts of the country. There is some anxiety in the North | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
of England, as to whether the new Prime Minister is as committed to it | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
as George Osborne was. He had a northern seat and it was one of the | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
themes he had. We will soon see how sincere they are. | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
Members of the regime are bruised by the speed of change, but there is a | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
crumb of comfort. One of the main brains behind George Osborne's | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
Northern Powerhouse has been given a seat in the heart of Downing Street, | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
drawing up the government's new industrial strategy. | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
Revisionism may put a very different spin onto Osbornomics | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
The long terms legacy of his work will not be fully | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
But how will the reset button - if that's what it is - | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
Here to discuss are Anne Pettifor, economist and member of Labours | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
economic advisory committee, and Dia Chakravorty | :07:00. | :07:00. | |
It is lovely to have you both here. We should start by saying that | :07:01. | :07:11. | |
actually, when you look at the Osborne legacy, in terms of | :07:12. | :07:13. | |
employment numbers and business creation and that pension | :07:14. | :07:16. | |
liberalisation, some of his achievements word truly remarkable. | :07:17. | :07:24. | |
The longer and weakest recovery in history. If you want to look at | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
public debt, which continues to rise, despite massive fiscal | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
consolidation, it started off it was going to be five years and turned | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
into ten. He just had bigger ambitions, is that the crime? That | :07:39. | :07:48. | |
-- debt continues to rise. There is that and low wages, low | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
productivity, about which he has done very little, did very little. | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
There is the fact wages are so low and he did respond to that with the | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
minimum wage, but a little too late, too little too late. What else is | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
there? Low investment. What is interesting is at the beginning of | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
his role as Chancellor, he delivered a lecture, and nice lecture, in | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
which he talks about imbalances in the economy, global imbalances, and | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
then never talked about it again. Would you choose any of those points | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
as criticisms of Osborne? Would you say it was wrong of him to go after | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
cutting the deficit and after austerity? | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
One thing and points out is true, debt went from 1.3 trillion to 1.6 | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
trillion. Was that he is doing his failure to manage expectations? It | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
was his failure to do enough to bring it down, but to be fair to | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
him... I have spent most of my career attacking George Osborne's | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
policies, but his legacy is very much a mixed bag. There are some | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
good things come as bad things sounds OK things. If you look at the | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
good side of it, he did inherit an ailing economy, which he never tired | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
of reminding us about. But he did inherit that and he did bring | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
deficit down from 10% of GDP to 4% of GDP. What would you say to the | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
minimum wage being raised over ?9 or the number of jobs? At the end of | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
the day he realised real low wages, lower than they were before the | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
crisis ten years ago, were harming the economy. He woke up to that very | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
late in the day. Even then he has done very little about it. For | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
example, today the cleaners in HMRC are going on strike because although | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
they have been granted this new minimum wage of ?9, they are told | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
they will have fewer hours. Theresa May now talking in explicit terms | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
about an industrial strategy, not a phrase we have heard for 20 years or | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
whatever. Is that the right way to go, to forget the Northern | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
Powerhouse, to say is about every city, is it deliverable? The | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
Northern Powerhouse always sounded like a gimmick, a desperate attempt | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
to hold onto something... We needed a powerhouse everywhere across the | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
country. It didn't make much sense to me. One thing I would say that I | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
would like to see is scrapping of vanity projects like HS2, which is a | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
massively expensive project which is about to hit 90 billion by our own | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
research. We focus those on infrastructure policies which are | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
actually going to benefit people, because this is a pernicious project | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
which is bankrupting the transport infrastructure budget as a whole. | :10:37. | :10:39. | |
Things like that are really important and now with a good | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
opportunity. Really important that you shouldn't follow these things? | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
Exactly, take the opportunity of the new administration. Doesn't that | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
waste millions of pounds, millions of hours of work, in constantly | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
recalibrating what might have been a good idea? If it isn't a good idea | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
and you still see it through, you end up wasting more money in the | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
long run. You have to be smart. The trouble with the idea of an | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
industrial strategy as it needs financing and unless we address the | :11:10. | :11:16. | |
issues facing the City of London, and the City of London doesn't act | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
as a servant to the economy but master of the economy, does little | :11:22. | :11:23. | |
about that. He allowed the City of London to carry on as before the | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
crisis. This is what has happened since the crisis, banks have not | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
lent into the real economy. Is Theresa May going to make a | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
difference or have her first row with the city question that will she | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
take them on question I doubt it, that's why don't think an industrial | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
strategy will work. Where does your industrial committee sit at the | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
moment, does it this question mark it does exist, activities are | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
suspended until after the leadership election. We're waiting for the | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
leadership election to stop do you feel when you listen to Theresa May | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
now that she is an Labour territory, speaking your language? Or do you | :12:04. | :12:06. | |
immediately want to push back? Definitely she is trying to switch | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
the Tory party away from this kind of elitism which existed under | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
Cameron. She has been quite ruthless. Some really bold moves, | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
and I'd expect, in terms of removing some of the old personalities and | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
the old ideologies. And China? Resetting that? Interesting to see | :12:29. | :12:35. | |
what to choose sex with China. More kowtowing less? It has to be a | :12:36. | :12:45. | |
balance. -- choose what she does with China foster I think she had | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
shown a lot of grit and I think that's what she needs to continue to | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
show. We are out of time, thank you both for coming in. | :12:53. | :12:54. | |
Well, more than a month after the Brexit vote, | :12:55. | :12:56. | |
life has gone as normal for the vast majority of people in the country. | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
One group, though, who are anxiously awaiting the details | :13:01. | :13:02. | |
of our disentanglement are migrants from the EU who are fearful | :13:03. | :13:04. | |
about what will happen to them and anxious about whether | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
they are still welcome in post-Brexit Britain. | :13:08. | :13:09. | |
Secunder Kermani has been to the Midlands town of Corby | :13:10. | :13:11. | |
to hear about their experiences since June 23rd. | :13:12. | :13:13. | |
There's some strong language in his report. | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
Corby steelworks attracted hundreds of migrant workers from Scotland | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
Today steel has been replaced by food processing plants | :13:23. | :13:30. | |
And the migrants coming to work there are Poles, | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
But nearly two thirds of voters here backed Brexit. | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
Over a month on from the referendum, this group of Polish students | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
growing up in the town are clear it's had an impact on relations. | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
I think the most general comment would be, "foreigners". | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
That's the most common that I would hear. | :13:58. | :13:59. | |
What would you say when you heard someone say that? | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
I'd just turn around and they'd be like, oh no, that's | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
Who else are you saying it to when there is no one | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
"I wish all foreigners went back to their country." | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
And I was the only foreigner in the class. | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
The vote has affected what people say. | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
I think people find that it's more acceptable to say that now, | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
Four years ago I've been in school and I've been bitten like three | :14:29. | :14:35. | |
So now I'm not in school, I'm in the workplace, | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
and I find working with English and British people, | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
it's better than going to school with little kids. | :14:46. | :14:47. | |
My friend used to go out with me all the time and play football, | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
And after the referendum he told me he was scared to go | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
out because something might happen to him. | :14:56. | :14:57. | |
You've lived here for ten years, you're only 13, I guess Britain | :14:58. | :14:59. | |
Does it still feel like where you belong? | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
It does, but I'm feeling more distant to it now. | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
It makes me feel sad, because I lived here for six years, | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
And if I had the choice to stay here or go back to Poland, | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
At the Euro market, others say they've also been targeted | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
in the rise in hate crime reported since the referendum. | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
Like Lena, originally from Lithuania, who has been | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
One time it happened that I was speaking in my own language | :15:30. | :15:36. | |
with my grandma from Lithuania and just I get Coca-Cola to my face. | :15:37. | :15:44. | |
And swearing at me, in the middle of the day. | :15:45. | :15:46. | |
They say, "you fucking refugee, why are you speaking your | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
Has anything like this ever happened to you before? | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
I have three kids who even speak better English | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
Hard times because it's not safe any more, I think. | :15:59. | :16:09. | |
The government has announced new measures against hate crime, | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
but hasn't guaranteed EU citizens already here their rights | :16:13. | :16:15. | |
I really don't want to go back to Poland, I wish to stay here. | :16:16. | :16:23. | |
But what is going to be, you never know. | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
Under current rules, EU migrants who have spent | :16:28. | :16:29. | |
five years in Britain, qualify for permanent residence. | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
That's part of the reason why some aren't so worried | :16:33. | :16:39. | |
Others without families here say they can easily go elsewhere. | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
I feel I'm welcome here, I stay. | :16:45. | :16:47. | |
I feel I'm not welcome here, I go home. | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
For even the first country, I think Germany. | :16:53. | :16:53. | |
Because a lot of people are coming here to get benefits. | :16:54. | :17:09. | |
Many of the EU migrants in Corby find work through | :17:10. | :17:12. | |
The Home Affairs Select Committee has said there could be a surge | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
But they haven't seen any evidence of that here. | :17:18. | :17:25. | |
Rather than a surge, at the moment many EU migrants seem | :17:26. | :17:27. | |
to be questioning their future in the new Britain. | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
It's hard when you know that you've come here to live a better life | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
and you're working like other people, you're paying bills, | :17:39. | :17:41. | |
And they start to treat you like that. | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
Like rubbish, you feel like rubbish, it's that simple. | :17:48. | :17:49. | |
Two weeks on from the attempted coup in Turkey, President Erdogan will be | :17:50. | :18:01. | |
able to use powers granted by the three month state | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
of emergency to issue direct orders to his military - | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
talking to heads of his army, air force and navy - himself. | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
The coup attempt involved only 1.5 percent of the armed forces - | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
according to Turkish media - but the plotters used | :18:17. | :18:18. | |
Turkish ministers say this overhaul to the military command structure | :18:19. | :18:21. | |
But it comes at a time when the country is deeply divided | :18:22. | :18:28. | |
and many fear the move could create more hate and distrust. | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
Today the President once again blasted western powers for what he | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
called support for the coup - and suggested it was 'supporting | :18:36. | :18:37. | |
terrorism' by not leaping to his defence. | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
Three weeks ago on the night of the 15th of July the world | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
watched as an attempted coup was televised. | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
The Turkish military issued a statement saying | :18:48. | :18:49. | |
Istanbul's bridges were blocked, TV stations closed, | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
President Erdogan's FaceTime plea for supporters to take | :18:55. | :19:02. | |
Civilians fought back, the coup had failed, | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
Erdogan returned to Istanbul and to his jubilant supporters. | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
He blamed the American-based cleric Fethullah Gulen for the dissent | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
and started to weed out those considered to be his dissenters. | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
Turkey is now under a state of emergency. | :19:23. | :19:24. | |
3,000 military officers have been dismissed and 160 | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
3,000 judges and prosecutors have been pushed out, | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
over 100 media organisations have been closed, 40 | :19:33. | :19:34. | |
So far all in all, more than 60,000 people in the military, judiciary, | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
civil service and schools have been either detained, | :19:42. | :19:43. | |
Talip Kucukcan is on the Foreign Relations Committee | :19:44. | :19:52. | |
Thank you for coming in. Your president we stated today that this | :19:53. | :20:06. | |
coup against him was supported by the West and intimated that the West | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
was supporting terrorism. Do you stand by those words? What we see in | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
Turkey is a threat to Turkish democracy and elected government and | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
we have seen that people were killed who defended their democratically | :20:23. | :20:30. | |
elected government. When you look at the gravity of the problem and those | :20:31. | :20:38. | |
involved in the coup attempt, they might be a conspiracy theory but | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
also there are facts on the ground if you look at the testimony of | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
those people, they indicate there are certain groups behind that. | :20:46. | :20:53. | |
Particularly the Fethullah Gulen movement. The exiled cleric. The | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
exiled cleric. If you look at the testimony of those involved in the | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
coup attempt they said they were members and they were given the job | :21:03. | :21:08. | |
of listening to the army people, the president, the chief of staff. When | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
you spoke about Western powers supporting terrorism, that is not | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
quite the same thing. What Turkey expected from the Western powers is | :21:18. | :21:20. | |
to be with Turkey when there was such a big threat to Turkish | :21:21. | :21:27. | |
democracy. It is not only the coup attempt that Turkey is based, in | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
recent years and especially in the last decades we have seen a threat | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
from the PKK to Turkey, then the threat from Daesh and the Syrian | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
crisis. I think Turkey expected a firmer stand for the Turkish | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
democracy, for Turkish civil liberties. I think this in my | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
understanding on the part of Erdogan, he wanted to become part of | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
Europe, that is the story of Turkey since he came to power in 2002. You | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
remember all those reforms for Turkey to become part of the EU. So | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
heart -- how our relationship between Turkey and the EU and how | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
does the migrants deal now stand? As far as I can see the deal is still | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
on the table and Jackie really has been carrying out its own | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
commitments because of the three main objectives to the deal, want to | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
stop the death of people on the Aegean Sea. This is not put you off? | :22:30. | :22:38. | |
If you look at the deal, Turkey is carrying out its responsibilities. | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
One was taking refugees illegally arrived on the Greek islands and | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
that is taking place but when it comes to Visa liberalisation, that | :22:47. | :22:53. | |
is not resolved. And looking at burden sharing, this also has not | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
been carried out by the European partners. When the West looks at | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
Turkey and its response, and they may have been sympathy for Erdogan | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
against the coup, but when you look at what has happened now, the purge | :23:07. | :23:16. | |
of 60,000 people, the tensions in Ankara, 1500 university deans told | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
to step down, the academics, the journalists, the imprisonment of | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
people who clearly did not have any part in that coup itself, it looks | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
like Turkey is not a democracy that the West can deal with. We | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
understand the concerns of our Western partners, of course. But if | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
you look... So you say we should not done it? They might of course be | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
some concerns and voices, but when we look at the state of emergency in | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
Turkey as I have just explained, the enormity of the threat that we have | :23:52. | :23:58. | |
been facing, it is not just the academics and the deans, but an | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
organisation whose members have been infiltrating into the state system. | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
The judiciary, the army and intelligence. So there might be | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
more? There might be more. We now have to see, when the dust settles | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
we will see things case-by-case. At the moment you have 60,000 in | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
prison, do think that the number will rise question mark no, not in | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
prison, the numbers you talk about include those people suspended from | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
their work, it does not mean that they are in prison. How hard could | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
the number rise? I have no idea at the moment, I cannot say, but if you | :24:36. | :24:43. | |
want to work in state institutions you have to take sensually organised | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
tests. What we know today is that questions were stolen by the members | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
of this Fethullah Gulen organisation. And now we will find | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
out who these people where when they wanted to become judges, | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
prosecutors, policemen, intelligence. We know Erdogan does | :25:01. | :25:03. | |
not tolerate dissent against him even in the form of best satirical | :25:04. | :25:09. | |
poem. One such poem was written by Boris Johnson, our Foreign | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
Secretary, I wonder how well received he would be in Turkey now. | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
Of course he will be received well because Turkey and the UK have been | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
allies for a long time. If you look at the relation between Turkey and | :25:23. | :25:28. | |
the UK, there is a lot of trade between the two countries, many | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
British companies are active in Turkey with a lot of investment. I | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
think these are issues that we've got to look at rather than the | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
perception. Thank you for coming in. Now that we've voted | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
to leave the European Union, do we have any further use | :25:45. | :25:46. | |
for our EU passports? Post Brexit, some are calling | :25:47. | :25:49. | |
for a return to the sturdy, personalised, navy passports of old, | :25:50. | :25:51. | |
personally signed by the monarch and - no less importantly - | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
weighted with the endorsement of previous presenters | :25:55. | :25:56. | |
of this programme. So would this be a welcome | :25:57. | :25:58. | |
restoration of a proud national institution -or a return to good | :25:59. | :26:00. | |
old days of the british rail buffet Stephen Smith - who, | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
confusingly lists his occupation as 'journalist' in his passport - | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
throws the deabte - # Come fly with me, let's | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
fly, let's fly away #. Oh, the golden days of travel - | :26:12. | :26:22. | |
the cabin trunks, the silver service, | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
the monogrammed sick bags... In the days when the sun never set | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
on the British Empire, it seemed the holder of a British | :26:30. | :26:32. | |
passport never had It wouldn't last forever, | :26:33. | :26:35. | |
as this evenhanded piece by a young The British passport wasn't so much | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
something you presented for inspection by some grubby | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
little border policeman, It was solid, sturdy | :26:48. | :26:49. | |
and understated, like the front door of number ten, the radiator grille | :26:50. | :26:59. | |
of a Rolls-Royce or the These days people still | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
want to travel in style, but they have to do so on something | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
smaller and flimsier, and looking like a passbook | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
of the Nuneaton Building Society. Today the Sun called for the return | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
of the navy blue British passport, saying, "The Government must make | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
plans to reintroduce the blue ones, We'll be the first in | :27:22. | :27:24. | |
the queue for a new blue." CHANITNG: "WE WANT | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
OUR COUNTRY BACK!" This was former Ukip leader | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
Nigel Farage during Nobody's over keen on their passport | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
photo, good luck to this loser But what do people feel | :27:41. | :27:49. | |
about the passport itself? I feel like I'm being interrogated | :27:50. | :28:01. | |
by the Bulgarian secret police... The director of the Design Museum | :28:02. | :28:04. | |
never leaves the house without his. If you open it up, you find | :28:05. | :28:07. | |
those immortal words about her Britannic Majesty requests | :28:08. | :28:11. | |
and requires us to leave, If you actually look | :28:12. | :28:13. | |
at a contemporary passport, it's full of feel-good | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
notions of Britishness. This looks like the Wind | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
In The Willows deep down. There's a dragon fly | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
in there somewhere, and strangely, isobars, which I guess | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
is about the weather. My family came from a country | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
that no longer exists, They arrived in the 1930s, | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
and for a long time they had to have their Yugoslav passport | :28:36. | :28:42. | |
with its blazing flags of communism and its star of socialism, | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
stamped with the words, For my parents, getting their first | :28:46. | :28:47. | |
blue British passport What about the thoughts of a travel | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
writer, forever crossing frontiers, collecting exotic stamps | :28:53. | :29:01. | |
in their passport? We found one who's just | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
been using hers to get I don't have any romantic attachment | :29:07. | :29:08. | |
to it, and I think that the idea of going back to the old passport | :29:09. | :29:15. | |
is pure jingoism with no The last thing we need at the moment | :29:16. | :29:18. | |
is to be more inward looking. We need to find ways of connecting | :29:19. | :29:27. | |
with Europe at this time. For families trying to get away | :29:28. | :29:32. | |
on holiday this summer, kipping in their cars at Dover, | :29:33. | :29:35. | |
uppermost on their minds has been Our current passport isn't | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
beautiful, it's functional. When I looked at the thing | :29:40. | :29:47. | |
in the Sun, the blue one, it's even clunkier, a clunky | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
passport, not beautiful at all. We've got to start thinking | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
of beauty, and that can be done... There's a big difference | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
between funky and beauty, and design can make something | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
beautiful, and that sums up Now, where's that bloke | :30:05. | :30:06. | |
in the arrivals hall, holding up Hello. Wednesday's weather brings | :30:07. | :30:43. | |
with it a day of contrasts. We will see some dry, sunny and windy | :30:44. | :30:46. | |
weather across England and | :30:47. | :30:47. |