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Tonight a unique insight into the mind of a suicide bomber, | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Mohammed Daleel, the Syrian who detonated himself in Ansbach | :00:07. | :00:12. | |
last month had been seeing a pyychotherapist in | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
He was looking up with open eyes, even when he should relax | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
and breathe a little deeper, because he said the pictures, | :00:22. | :00:23. | |
the bad pictures can start running the moment the eyes are closed. | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
We'll be discussing the psychology of lone wolf attackers. | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
Jeremy Corbyn says today's Appeal Court decision that Labour | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
party members who joined in the past six months can't | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
vote in the leadership election is undemocratic. | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
I'll be asking Derek Hatton, famously expelled from | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
the Labour Party, whether it's the 80s all over again. | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
Images taken by a professor of English who doggedly goes to work | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
at the university to teach students equally determined to keep learning | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
I will not leave until I lose my soul. | :00:57. | :01:09. | |
Of course sometimes yes, when we were under siege, | :01:10. | :01:11. | |
sometimes I hold my daughter and I ask her for forgiveness, | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
And surfing Newsnight's Olympic sofa tonight, comedian Jenny Eclair. | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
I'm hoping that the very large y-fronted underpants aren't | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
What goes on inside the mind of a suicide bomber? | :01:22. | :01:40. | |
The messages they leave behind tend to be crude Jihadist propaganda. | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
And for obvious reasons, you can't interrogate them. | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
But tonight we can get a real insight. | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
Mohammed Daleel, a 27-year-old refugee from Syria, | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
blew himself up in the little Bavarian town of Ansbach last month, | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
In the 18 months before he wounded eighteen people and then killed | :01:54. | :02:02. | |
himself, he had been receiving treatment for mental illness. | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
Newsnight has learned that a psychological | :02:06. | :02:06. | |
evaluation of Daleel, sent to the German authorities last | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
year, described him as an "extreme character" and one who had | :02:09. | :02:11. | |
the potential to attempt suicide in "spectacular" fashion. | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
That assessment was written by the person who perhaps knew him | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
best, the therapist who treated him over the period of a year. | :02:18. | :02:19. | |
He's been speaking to Gabriel Gatehouse for Newsnight. | :02:20. | :02:44. | |
It was war that drove Mohammad Daleel to Bavaria | :02:45. | :02:46. | |
on a journey from Syria to provincial Germany. | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
But did he come to escape conflict or instead to bring violence | :02:49. | :02:59. | |
with him, to inflict it on the very people who gave him refuge? | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
What motivated this man to blow himself up in this beer garden, | :03:06. | :03:17. | |
one evening last month, claiming to do so in | :03:18. | :03:19. | |
To think that he come with that intention, it doesn't fit for me. | :03:20. | :03:32. | |
In January 2015, he slashed his wrists after he was told he would be | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
deported to Bulgaria, the country where he first entered | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
When he come the first time he has bandages around his arms, | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
They put him into a psychiatric clinic for ten days, | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
and then they left him, then Foreign Office said "OK, | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
you must go back to Bulgaria", then he promised to take gasoline, | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
pour it over him in front of the Bundesamt and set fire. | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
Mohammed Daleel spent dozens of hours in this chair, | :04:09. | :04:10. | |
Along with his wife Gisela, he runs a trauma therapy | :04:11. | :04:17. | |
Over a period of 12 months, Axel and Gisela gained a deep | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
insight into the mind of a future suicide bomber. | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
Mr Daleel, who claimed to be an opposition activist, | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
told them he had been brutally tortured in Aleppo. | :04:29. | :04:36. | |
For example, they fix him to the wall so tight that his veins | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
were still swollen here, and when you stand there, | :04:40. | :04:41. | |
every five minutes you get an electric shock so you cannot | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
Traumatisation has very typical symptoms. | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
If you talk to somebody and he describes the symptoms | :04:51. | :04:52. | |
you can say he has that post-traumatic stress disorder. | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
And did he have post-traumatic stress disorder? | :04:58. | :04:59. | |
He once said - I made a relaxation exercise with him later | :05:00. | :05:06. | |
in the therapy, I asked him "Please close your eyes." | :05:07. | :05:08. | |
He always was looking up with open eyes, even when he should relax | :05:09. | :05:16. | |
and breathe deeper, because he said the pictures, | :05:17. | :05:18. | |
the bad pictures can start running the moment the eyes are closed. | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
After their first session last year, Axel von Maltitz wrote | :05:25. | :05:26. | |
an extensive psychological assessment. | :05:27. | :05:27. | |
Daleel, he said, was a man filled with anger and hopelessness, | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
and in an observation that now seems prophetic he wrote... | :05:31. | :05:40. | |
Mr Daleel is an extreme spirit, and it's possible that he even | :05:41. | :05:42. | |
puts his suicide into a spectacular scenery. | :05:43. | :05:48. | |
In 2013, Daleel gave an interview to Bulgarian television. | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
He told reporters he had been injured in a rocket attack | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
on his home in Aleppo, an attack in which his wife | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
He also alleged he had been mistreated in Bulgarian detention. | :05:58. | :06:04. | |
Von Maltitz's psychological assessment made its way to the | :06:05. | :06:06. | |
They quietly dropped their threat to deport Daleel, who continued | :06:07. | :06:17. | |
living at a hostel in Ansbach while receiving treatment | :06:18. | :06:19. | |
Then, on 13th July, he received another deportation notice. | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
Ten days later, he would blow himself up. | :06:23. | :06:34. | |
Most important that happened was that he got a letter telling, | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
Sure, because that is always what he promised. | :06:38. | :06:46. | |
That is what I warned the officers for. | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
"Be careful with him if he has to be deported to Bulgaria." | :06:53. | :06:59. | |
It is impossible to say whether Mohammed Daleel's | :07:00. | :07:00. | |
imminent deportation acted as some sort of trigger. | :07:01. | :07:02. | |
Investigators have told me they are not ruling out | :07:03. | :07:04. | |
the possibility that he may have been in contact with Jihadist groups | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
But they do say that his communication online with people | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
purporting to represent Islamic State was a relatively | :07:12. | :07:13. | |
recent development, and that in the minutes before | :07:14. | :07:21. | |
he detonated his bomb he was communicating with | :07:22. | :07:23. | |
The German security services are working to identify two | :07:24. | :07:31. | |
different types of potential Islamic State attack. | :07:32. | :07:41. | |
One, co-ordinated, IS-led, of the type we saw | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
The other, the self-radicalising lone wolf. | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
Mohammed Daleel, they believe, falls into the second category. | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
Mohammed Daleel managed to kill only himself. | :07:53. | :08:30. | |
From an Islamic State point of view, this was a botched operation. | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
But if he had managed to get through into this square, | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
which at the time was packed with 2,500 concert goers, | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
if he had managed to detonate his bomb properly, | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
this could have been a very, very deadly attack indeed. | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
And that is why Germany is feeling so vulnerable right now. | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
For many Germans, last summer's outpouring of good will | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
towards refugees has given way to suspicion and resentment. | :08:55. | :09:34. | |
For his therapy, Mohammed Daleel travelled from Ansbach | :09:35. | :09:36. | |
He used to ride his bike along the shores of the lake. | :09:37. | :09:43. | |
Across the water, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein. | :09:44. | :09:44. | |
His next session was pencilled in for 1st August. | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
Across the water, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein. | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
Across the water, Switzerland, Austria, Lichtenstein. | :09:53. | :09:54. | |
His next session was pencilled in for 1st August. | :09:55. | :09:56. | |
Much of what he said in the therapy room cannot be verified. | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
His role in the opposition, the torture, the wife and child. | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
Did you get a sense you believed him? | :10:04. | :10:04. | |
Mohammed Daleel was the first Islamic State-inspired suicide | :10:05. | :10:41. | |
But everyone who knew him said he never seemed particularly religious. | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
So, are we giving too much credence to IS for an attack they may have | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
We don't know all the facts, and we probably never will, | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
but from what we do know, it is clear that Mohammed Daleel | :11:00. | :11:01. | |
He was neither just a would-be Jihadist mass murderer, | :11:02. | :11:08. | |
nor was he simply a mentally disturbed victim of war. | :11:09. | :11:15. | |
His case raises difficult questions for German society | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
and beyond about attitudes to refugees, about violence | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
and mental health, and about what it means to call something | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
Now I'm joined by Sajda Mughal, a 7/7 survivor who became | :11:29. | :11:40. | |
a de-radicalisation expert, and Andrew Silke, who has advised | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
Good evening. Unpicking this idea of no simple biepryes Is there a | :11:44. | :11:55. | |
profile a psychological profile who for someone who has radicalised to | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
the point of an tact? There isn't a single profile and people will love | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
if there was, that clearly described every terrorist and suicide bomber | :12:05. | :12:07. | |
but there isn't oneches and instead what we have is a series of profiles | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
and so we have different types of terrorists, and because of that, we | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
don't have a single root cause for why people become involved. Mental | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
illness gets flagged up in cases like this, but the reality most | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
terrorists don't have a history of mental illn't so we can't look at | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
that and see this is the key reason. I have to agree there is not one | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
single factor that leads someone to radicalisation. I have been working | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
on this issue and I have worked with a large number of individuals who | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
have been at risk of radicalisation, mainly young people and I know | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
people who have been radicalised and there are a number of factor, | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
whether it is socioeconomic or whether it is personal grievance. | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
What I was going to say, but there is a big difference, between someone | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
who is suicidal and someone intent on committing suicide and taking | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
people with them. There is a difference for but when we look at | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
this specific case, there were obviously mental health issues there | :13:08. | :13:09. | |
and the questions that I have been left with, when watching the | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
documentary was in terms of of the support the individual was | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
receiving, where they receiving adequate support, there are | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
questions round that, but also questions round who the person was, | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
they were calling in Saudi, and also the internet, you had one of the | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
authorities I think the representatives from Bulgaria who | :13:31. | :13:32. | |
mentioned the internet. Again, with my own experience and research, the | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
internet is playing a part in terms of radicalisation. | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
Do you think IS has changed that, changed the way that radicalisation | :13:43. | :13:44. | |
happens, changed the modus operandi. I think that IS are trying to | :13:45. | :13:52. | |
exploit the internet and opportunities. They are | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
opportunistic. And claim credit for anyone that they can. | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
Do you think in your experience that they focus on people vulnerable? I | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
think that IS are very, no the in the sense of a Machiavellian paster | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
mind in trying to reach and manipulate vulnerable people, | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
looking at the UK experience, ten, 12 years ago, we had the type of | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
charismatic recruiters who were active and out there in society in | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
some places but they have disappeared and shifted into the | :14:23. | :14:25. | |
background. That is very much with IS. I don't think that they have | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
recruiters trying to manipulate people. They are producing | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
propaganda and hoping that an audience receives it. | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
It is hard to work out the depths of the radicalisation. Yes, somebody | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
says that this is for IS but no idea how it is a late radicalisation, or | :14:44. | :14:50. | |
if it was one at all? With this case it was at later stage but I disagree | :14:51. | :14:57. | |
with Andrew in terms of IS and vulnerable groups with my own | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
experience of working with groups of people at risk and publishing a | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
paper on extremism in 2012 we say that there are vulnerable groups | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
that recruiters such as IS pick on. So those with mental health issues, | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
young people, women, and university students. | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
Andrew? I disagree. I think a lot of people with mental health issues are | :15:22. | :15:29. | |
flagged up. There could be 40 or 50% that Channel are working with have | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
mental health issues but people committed with mental health Irishes | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
very few have these problems. People with mental health issues are | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
flagged up with concern but few make it all the way to become terrorists. | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
They are people who are in a sense easy to pick on as being vulnerable. | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
But then there is a decision about the different methods used to | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
counter this. Would you say that the prevent strategy of ideology is a | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
reasonable one? I say we have to look at ideology. To look at it, yes | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
why. There are some individuals who have been radicalised and are at | :16:08. | :16:14. | |
risk. I have worked with them, they have possessed incorrect Islamic | :16:15. | :16:21. | |
ideology. So we have to look at ideology and factors, international | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
grievances, the rise of Islamophobia, alienation, to look at | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
radicalisation broadly and look at mental health. Especially those | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
suffering from mental health. Why? Because if you have a group | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
providing an individual with a sense of belonging, a sense of importance, | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
they can be drawn into that. What is the best way in your view? I | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
agree to look at a range of factors. It is not a one factor problem. | :16:48. | :16:54. | |
What about ideology? It is a facilitator but necessarily | :16:55. | :16:56. | |
important. For me the post important thing is identity. Where the | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
individual's sense of identity lies. It tells me about the vulnerability | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
toed a cadisation than necessarily the ideology that exists. Many of | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
the convicted terrorists I have met with video a poor understanding of | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
the understanding of the cause it is simple, naive in many respects. But | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
what is key is the sense of identity and a sense of connection to the | :17:21. | :17:22. | |
cause. Thank you very much. | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
Lawyers will be the real winners in Labour's endless court battles | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
to sort out who can and cannot vote in the leadership contest. | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
As of tonight, people who joined the Labour party after January 12th | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
Today, three Appeal Court judges ruled in favour of the NEC | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
and overturned the previous ruling that swept away a ban on recruits - | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
estimated to be 125,000 - who joined the party after January | :17:41. | :17:43. | |
Members of Mr Corbyn's team said it was the wrong decision, | :17:44. | :17:51. | |
Well, watching all this from the sidelines, in a week | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
where Labour's deputy leader has complained | :17:55. | :17:56. | |
of "Trotskyite infiltration" - a claim vehemently denied | :17:57. | :17:57. | |
The former deputy leader of Liverpool City Council | :17:58. | :18:07. | |
was expelled from the party in the early 80s for being a member | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
Good evening. Thank you very much for joining us. What do you make of | :18:11. | :18:24. | |
the ruling? When you think about it, 130,000 people joined the Labour | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
Party. A letter from the General Secretary, and told that they could | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
vote for the leader. Then that decision was changed. | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
Now it was changed for a reason reason--the reason being that they | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
thought that the vast majority of them would vote for Jeremy Corbyn, | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
probably true. But for them all of a sudden to say democracy is OK as | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
long as it is the right way, is verging on political corruption to | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
be honest. This week, Tom Watson said: Old | :18:52. | :18:59. | |
hands twist young articles. That's how Trotsky's interests operate. Are | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
trots ski infiltrating the Labour Party? I really don't know what | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
happened to him. I think he has lost it. The reality is that we are | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
talking about hundreds of thousands of people. They don't get their arms | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
twisted. They are people delighted that they are seeing a Labour Party | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
going in a particular way. Where they have seen in the past it has | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
gone the wrong way, now they are in a position to say that there is | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
light at the end of the tunnel. That is encouraging. | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
Why is he saying that? I don't understand. I whole lot of MPs are | :19:35. | :19:39. | |
getting worried. They are seeing the writing on the wall. Not only MPs. | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
But the media are getting worried. What makes me laugh is that we are | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
told all the time that Jeremy Corbyn is unelectable. If that is the case, | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
then the likes of the Mail, the Express, to the Daily Telegraph, and | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
to a degree the BBC, who have supported the Tory policies, that | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
they would be saying this is great, allowing it to happen... Let's talk | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
about your position as far as the Labour Party is concerns, would you | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
like to be part of it? The reason why they are vicious on the attacks | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
on Jeremy Corbyn is because they see that he is electable and pushing | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
forward policies that they are frightened off. My position? I tried | :20:19. | :20:24. | |
to join the Labour Party after 31 years, when was it just after the | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
general election. I got a letter saying "yes", I was a member. I got | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
a membership card. Then three weeks letter saying it had to go to the | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
NEC. I am waiting. But at the end of the day the reality is for 30 years | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
I have never voted for anyone else but Labour never joined another | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
political party, nor campaigned for another party that is the case. | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
Do you want back in? Being a member is irrelevant. The support is | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
important. I have never supported anyone other than the Labour Party. | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
Does Jeremy Corbyn want you back in? Ask him. I have not spoken to him | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
for a good while. Do you see parallels as to what is | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
happening now and the 19-80s? There are. But then Neil Kinnock bullied a | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
lot of people in the councils to go against people in the '80s. Now | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
there is no Neil Kinnock. And B, there is not one council. But an | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
entire movement. That is a very different situation. They are trying | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
everything, bullying through the courts, bullying by using the press | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
and at the end of the day more and more people are joining the Labour | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
Party. And ironically enough, that up until the time that the MPs | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
started this coup, Labour was starting to get to a position where | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
it was starting to tie with the Tories, increasing in popularity. | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
And people saying yes, Jeremy Corbyn is electable, he could be the next | :21:56. | :21:57. | |
Prime Minister. That frightens so many people. | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
Derek Hatton thank you very much for joining us. | :22:02. | :22:02. | |
When we see film of Aleppo, the biggest city in Syria, | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
it's hard to comprehend the visceral hardships, the hunger | :22:07. | :22:08. | |
As a young doctor there told Newsnight last week, | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
it's almost impossible to sleep, not least because you worry that | :22:13. | :22:14. | |
But people are desperate to have some normality, | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
and one such person is Abdulkafi Alhamdo, | :22:19. | :22:19. | |
a professor of English at Aleppo University. | :22:20. | :22:21. | |
He still tries to get to work, and his students too, | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
all the while in fear of a barrel bomb attack, or an air strike. | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
I spoke to him on Skype earlier this evening, | :22:28. | :22:29. | |
and we asked him to take some photographs for us this afternoon | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
Of course, we and many academic people here decided to stay and | :22:33. | :22:56. | |
teach those people who could not have a chance to study in other | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
places. All of those people who wanted to live here, who decided | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
that it would be a challenge to the situation. | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
So I will keep teaching here at the university. I will teach these | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
students who need someone to teach them. | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
Tell me, how dangerous is it for you to get to university each day? Yeah, | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
I mean, when I get to the university, my wife will get worried | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
until I am back. Of course when I get out to the university I will be | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
worried about my wife and my six-month-old daughter. | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
Tell me about the difficult journey that the students make to get to | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
you. How difficult is it for them? Some students have to walk an hour | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
to arrive at the university. Some of the bombs are cluster bombs. Even | :23:53. | :24:00. | |
when they were doing their exams, many bombs, many rockets fell | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
aboutside us. Are other areas of the city not so | :24:04. | :24:12. | |
badly bombed? I can say that my why exactly is not that dangerous | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
according to the other quarters. Because my quarter is so close to | :24:18. | :24:29. | |
that front line. By the way my ball Connie is open to air snipers. | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
We understand that there are 15 doctors left in the area of Aleppo | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
for 300,000 people. Even the normal things for your daughter getting | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
sick at the age of six months, you must pray that does not happen? I | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
want to tell you something, the day before yesterday when the chlorine | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
attack, me and my wife, my daughter, we were affected by the attack. But | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
I couldn't go to that hospitals as they were full of the attack. About | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
100 people were injured. So I could not go as I know that people would | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
not help me. Give me a sense of the route you | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
sent us, a route you would take to buy food. What is it like to go | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
along the street to get food? My road, everything is destroyed. Some | :25:19. | :25:26. | |
people live in this area. But every now and then I would hide as the | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
plane is above me. How do you live with death so close | :25:31. | :25:40. | |
the whole time? We used to living with such danger. Death is | :25:41. | :25:45. | |
everywhere. Now we wake up in the morning and I open my mobile to see | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
and read that my friend died, that my colleague died, my student died. | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
I take it as usual things. I go to those people. I say sorry to their | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
families. And then I continue my life. This is how we live here. | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
You sent us an image of a little boy looking happy eating a raw | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
vegetable. Tell me about that picture. What does it say about | :26:12. | :26:18. | |
Aleppo? Today I could eat for the first time in 40 days, I could eat | :26:19. | :26:25. | |
tomatoes, I was so happy I could take a selfie with the tomorrowatow. | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
All of the people here are so happy as for 40 days, imagine I could not | :26:32. | :26:38. | |
even see a vegetable or a tomato. A vegetable, of any kind. So all | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
people are happy to see that and to eat and taste such a thing. I think | :26:43. | :26:48. | |
these are the most delicious vegetables and fruits that I have | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
eaten in all my life. Obviously this three-hour aid | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
corridor is important. Especially for the children to get nourishment? | :26:59. | :27:04. | |
Russia is said that they will have a ceasefire of 40 hours. But we don't | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
have this ceasefire. They are continuing to bomb every now and | :27:10. | :27:17. | |
then but still the cars could come into Aleppo. | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
Tell me if you could leave, would you, or would you stay in Aleppo? | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
What we want only is freedom. We will not runaway. We will not leave | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
this land for other people. Of course, sometimes yes. When we were | :27:32. | :27:37. | |
under siege, sometimes I hold my daughter and I ask her Forsythe | :27:38. | :27:44. | |
giveness as I have to stay here. I tell her -- I ask her for | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
forgiveness. I have to stay here. She is only six months but I have to | :27:51. | :28:00. | |
stay here. I will not leave her to know that I ran away simply. I | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
stayed here as I wanted to stay. Maybe this affects her future but I | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
can't leave and people will not leave, by the way. | :28:12. | :28:14. | |
Thank you very much. Now, breaking news of a very happy | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
kind. Bradley Wiggins has won gold along with his team in the men's | :28:20. | :28:28. | |
cycling team pursuit. He has now won more medals in Great Britain Olympic | :28:29. | :28:30. | |
On BBC2 now, a long time performer who's slumming it | :28:31. | :28:33. | |
I'm sorry - that's actually tomorrow night, when I'll be reporting | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
No, tonight, I'm afraid it's more from the burger-flecked bean bag | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
of our Olympics correspondent, Stephen Smith. | :28:42. | :28:42. | |
He's been sampling Brazilian cocktails with comedian Jenny Eclair | :28:43. | :28:44. | |
My favourite bit is the Olympic flame. | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
It is like the whole world getting together round a barbecue isn't it. | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
Caipirinhas today, which is the national | :28:53. | :28:54. | |
That will see me through a few hours of Olympic watching. | :28:55. | :29:09. | |
I am hoping that the very large y-fronted underpants aren't | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
Paxman, you know, when he complained about the elastic going. | :29:16. | :29:23. | |
Very few women go back to the Olympics | :29:24. | :29:34. | |
You feel sorry for the ones at the back. | :29:35. | :29:44. | |
If I were her I would pretend to fall. | :29:45. | :29:47. | |
Who is going to claim the gold medal in Rio, | :29:48. | :29:49. | |
up to the line and the gold medal goes to Great Britain. | :29:50. | :29:52. | |
It is a science, isn't it, with this. | :29:53. | :30:00. | |
The old man has talked to me about this, and it sounds like this. | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
Have you ever played to a half-empty house? | :30:05. | :30:14. | |
Do you know, I have played so many half-empty houses they've had | :30:15. | :30:16. | |
to say to me "We just had a change of venue. | :30:17. | :30:19. | |
You know, like you were meant to be in the big hall tonight? | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
We have put some chairs out in the foyer, are you OK with that?" | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
That was uncharacteristic, that landing. | :30:28. | :30:38. | |
There's not enough badly dismounted finishes being covered up. | :30:39. | :30:40. | |
Their position is well and truly dominating here. | :30:41. | :31:03. | |
These women will always be able to wear sleeveless. | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
As long as they keep up a little bit | :31:07. | :31:08. | |
Great Britain's Glover and Stanning defend their Olympic title | :31:09. | :31:19. | |
I've enjoyed it so much, thank you for coming. | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
Can't drink any more though, because I've got my middle-aged | :31:26. | :31:28. | |
I am going to squeeze into a leotard so I will say thank you very much. | :31:29. | :31:35. | |
The fabulous Jenni Eclair and Steve Smith. | :31:36. | :31:52. | |
That's all we have time for - goodnight. | :31:53. | :31:54. |