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Rioting on the streets of America after yet another killing | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
of an African-American by a police officer. | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
The State of Emergency in North Carolina may be lifted | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
soon, but the racial divide in America seems as | :00:16. | :00:17. | |
The grievance in their mind is the animus, the anger. | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
They hate white people because the white people are | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
We'll ask if the current violence comes at a uniquely | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
Also tonight - plans for a Garden Bridge in London hit | :00:31. | :00:37. | |
another setback, as the Mayor orders a value for money inquiry. | :00:38. | :00:40. | |
I'm delighted Margaret Hodge is going to take a look at this, | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
because she knows, I think she can smell a dud project | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
I think she's going to find this one is a real dud. | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
We'll ask Margaret Hodge whether her report could spell | :00:53. | :00:54. | |
And - what can papal elections tell us about the dirty world | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
Author Robert Harris pulls back the curtain. | :01:01. | :01:09. | |
Conclaves are short, any divisions are kept | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
behind closed doors, and when the winning | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
candidate emerges, the church unites around him. | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
Secular politics has a lot to learn from conclaves. | :01:19. | :01:34. | |
Three black men have been shot dead by police | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
In the coming hours we will find out whether the scene of the latest, | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
the North Carolina city of Charlotte where Keith Lamont Scott | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
was shot on Tuesday, will face its third | :01:47. | :01:48. | |
With the national guard already in place and Donald Trump apparently | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
appealing for African-American votes because, and I quote, | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
"they have nothing to lose", it's clear that racial tensions are once | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
again centre stage in American politics. | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
One of the main demands of the protesters is that the police | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
video of the incident be released, but today | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
the Charlotte Chief of Police told a press conference that they didn't | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
The video does not give me absolute, definitive visual evidence that... | :02:17. | :02:27. | |
That would confirm that a person is pointing a gun. | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
I did not see that in the videos that I've reviewed. | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
What I can tell you, though, is when taken in the totality | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
of all the other evidence, it supports what we've heard | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
in the version of the truth that we gave about the circumstances | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
that happened, that led to the death of Mr Scott. | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
Let's cross over to Charlotte and talk to the BBC's correspondent | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
Are the authorities braced for more violence tonight? They are, and | :02:56. | :03:09. | |
that's why several hundred members of the National Guard have been | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
deployed to the streets of Charlotte. Their primary role is to | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
look after property, to look after buildings, so the police don't have | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
to do that, so the police can go out there and make arrests and do their | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
normal policing duties. That said, there is still a lot of tension in | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
this city. The pressure group that campaigns on behalf of black people | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
says that effectively putting the National Guard on the streets | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
militarise is the situation and couldn't raise tensions rather than | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
throw at them. What we are expecting in the next few minutes at police | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
headquarters is the family may get to see, the Scott family may get to | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
see that controversial police cam video shot on Tuesday was Keith | :03:56. | :04:02. | |
Lamont Scott was being shot by the police. The police are going to see | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
it, and what their verdict is on a video, I think, will be crucial to | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
the atmosphere in this city. Gary O'Donoghue, many thanks indeed. The | :04:12. | :04:17. | |
bigger picture is worth a glance at now. | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
Just days ahead of the first Presidential debate. | :04:23. | :04:24. | |
The political pantechnicon that is Donald Trump's Presidential | :04:25. | :04:26. | |
campaign rumbled into and out of Toledo, Ohio this week | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
as the country reacted to not just the racially charged rioting | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
in Carolina but also, of course, the terrorist attacks | :04:32. | :04:33. | |
Emily Maitlis has been keeping tabs on this most controversial | :04:34. | :04:42. | |
of candidates, and wondering whether a year of remarkable | :04:43. | :04:44. | |
reverses for the political status quo could yet witness an even bigger | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
upset, and she's in Toledo for us tonight. | :04:49. | :04:55. | |
I think that is right. Whether you are talking about rioting on the | :04:56. | :05:02. | |
streets or the shooting dead of black men by police in Carolina, as | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
you have just heard about, or if it is those thwarted terror attacks in | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
New York and New Jersey, Americans right now waking up to a sense of | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
something deeply unsettling in the state of their country. Clearly both | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
candidates are offering very differing political solutions, but | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
when an electorate keeps hearing about a country that is polarised, | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
that is divided, that is unjust and doesn't seem to be getting any | :05:29. | :05:30. | |
better, perhaps it is for them to start looking to | :05:31. | :06:03. | |
that candidate of change, the candidate that talks about fixing | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
things, fixing things we know is a very Donald Trump sort of phrase. We | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
are in Toledo, Ohio, a crucial swing state Trump is going all out to win. | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
He has been here many more times than Hillary Clinton and ahead of | :06:12. | :06:13. | |
that first critical presidential debate, the first time Donald Trump | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
and Hillary Clinton will sit on the same stage together, going | :06:17. | :06:18. | |
head-to-head, we spoke to a Republican strategist called in by | :06:19. | :06:20. | |
team Brexit to give them a little advice ahead of their own televised | :06:21. | :06:21. | |
debates. Have a look. And we will make | :06:22. | :06:22. | |
America great again! Take back control of this country | :06:23. | :06:24. | |
and our democracy... And we will make | :06:25. | :06:26. | |
America great again! If we vote to Leave, | :06:27. | :06:28. | |
we take back control. And yes, we will make | :06:29. | :06:30. | |
America great again! The echo of insurgency both sides | :06:31. | :06:32. | |
of the Atlantic Ocean... And turn the page to a bright | :06:33. | :06:34. | |
and shining future. 2016, it once seemed, would be | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
the year things almost happened - the rising of populist movements | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
around the world, but after the Brexit vote, | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
suddenly we realised that voice didn't just have the power | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
to unsettle but to upend. It was a moment many on this side | :06:55. | :06:56. | |
of the ocean fully woke up to Trump. I certainly think that the Brexit | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
has energised a lot of voters I think for folks who didn't think, | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
who don't think that Donald Trump can win, they now believe that | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
Donald Trump can win. I also think that it has invigorated | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
the hope of folks who think we can't Brett O'Donnell, a Republican | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
strategist who's advised former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, | :07:18. | :07:28. | |
was called in by the Leave EU team to help them | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
prepare for the debates. We were very careful about trying | :07:32. | :07:33. | |
to characterise this is taking back control of your country, | :07:34. | :07:41. | |
as opposed to losing And being hopeful about your | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
country, as opposed It's about using the phrase "Take | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
back control of our NHS", "Take back control of our school | :07:48. | :07:58. | |
system", "Take back control of our trade", "Take back control | :07:59. | :08:00. | |
of our borders", "Take back control The Brexit Trump analogy | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
is far from perfect, but they each speak to a sense | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
of reclaiming, and that, I think, is key - | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
whether it's about your borders, or your former greatness | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
as a country - it appeals to a people who feel that something | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
slipped out of their grasp, And put like that, it no longer | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
sounds like protest Toledo, Ohio is a midwest town | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
with manufacturing in its soul. Glassware and car parts, | :08:23. | :08:33. | |
gasworks and tyres, but it's a town that's slumped, as | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
manufacturing headed east. An economy in decline has brought | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
many here a rally for Trump. I will not tolerate anyone violating | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
Mr Trump's right to speak here today, or your right | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
to assemble and to listen Do not physically | :08:49. | :08:50. | |
engage the protesters. They embrace their new-found | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
identity as "deplorables", after Hillary's comments | :08:57. | :08:58. | |
about racism and xenophobia I think it's disgusting that | :08:59. | :09:00. | |
a presidential nominee could call a large segment of our | :09:01. | :09:09. | |
population deplorables. If she would win, she would be | :09:10. | :09:10. | |
president of everybody. And as we move through the queue, | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
I'm curious to know if the same factors that drove Brexit, | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
are driving Trump. The dilution of the American culture | :09:19. | :09:25. | |
is deteriorating the structure, In Europe, you guys have a big | :09:26. | :09:27. | |
problem, because there's no borders. I think it's sad that these illegal | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
immigrants get all this freedom and we have veterans | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
who are homeless, who can't afford health care, who have to wait | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
months on top of months. They've been waiting | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
since 9 this morning. Donald Trump finally | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
arrives here at 2.30. This is a movement, and we're | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
taking our country back for the people, | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
we're taking it back. "We're taking our country back, | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
we're taking it back". That kind of easy slogan has proved | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
critical to his messaging during this campaign, | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
whether it means jobs, It's about drilling a message home | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
time and time again. He tells his fans, they tell others, | :10:10. | :10:17. | |
a kind of verbal pyramid selling which has proved | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
so utterly effective. In downtown Toledo, | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
I meet Mike and Ed - I don't think that she is saying | :10:25. | :10:26. | |
anything, what she is going What's he going to do to make | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
America great again? But they agree on one thing, | :10:32. | :10:39. | |
that the Democrats lack It has been harder for her to reduce | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
her message to something that connects every day | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
with the marketplace. What I might call | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
kitchen table life. People are sitting around, | :10:55. | :10:55. | |
not thinking about politicians They're thinking, how | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
can I pay my bills? My car needs a muffler, | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
my rent is due. They are not thinking | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
about politicians and what it means. Until politics starts | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
looking like this... The shooting of yet another black | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
man by police has hit a deep nerve in America, | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
and brought protests out The black vote is overwhelmingly | :11:18. | :11:19. | |
Democrat, but the protest may harden parts of the white vote behind | :11:20. | :11:29. | |
Trump, and polarised America may well play | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
into his narrative. An America that's divided, | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
an America that's uneasy, an America that is, he'll them, | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
broken, is an America Let's pick up where Emily | :11:40. | :11:41. | |
left off in her piece - the protests over the shooting dead | :11:42. | :11:50. | |
of a black man by police A little earlier I spoke | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
to North Carolina congressman His district covers | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
the City of Charlotte. I began by asking him | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
about the prospect of a third night Well, my hope is that | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
calm will prevail. Frankly we need the spirit | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
of Martin Luther King, the great statesman who, yes, | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
he went to the streets We need the spirit of | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
the leaders to come out today, from President Obama, | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
from the Attorney General, from pastors, from lay people, | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
to go to the streets, African-American leaders, | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
and ask for calm and ask for discipline in what they want, | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
to share their grievances The chief grievance | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
of the protesters? It began long before two nights ago | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
when there was a shooting. I think that was the effect, | :12:44. | :12:52. | |
the culmination, frankly, 1965, President Johnson, | :12:53. | :12:54. | |
with good intentions, launched the Great Society, | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
and the impact of that has frankly There are African-American people | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
today who are more removed from our economy | :13:05. | :13:11. | |
than any other time. In fact, sadly, as a result | :13:12. | :13:14. | |
of the policies that the president, and I say with good intentions, | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
followed the last eight years, that the demographic group that has | :13:19. | :13:20. | |
been hurt the worse, are the low income, minority people, | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
they have grown zero in our economy. With respect, congressman, | :13:26. | :13:32. | |
I don't think the people on the streets last night | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
and the night before were protesting against Lyndon B Johnson's almost | :13:38. | :13:39. | |
half a century old policies. What is their grievance | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
in their mind? The grievance in their mind | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
is the animus, the anger. They hate white people because white | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
people are successful We have spent trillions | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
of dollars on welfare, but we put people in bondage, | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
so that they can't be all that America is a country of opportunity | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
and freedom and liberty. It didn't become that way | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
because of the great government who provided everything | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
for everyone. No, the destiny of America, | :14:12. | :14:14. | |
the freedom to come to this country, why they're still coming | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
to our shores is because they can take their work ethic | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
and their hard effort, and put a cap on their risk | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
and build out their lives. A black man gets shot | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
by a black police officer and the people protest | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
because they hate white people? Yeah, that's what | :14:36. | :14:37. | |
they're saying on TV. That was the brother | :14:38. | :14:38. | |
of the man who got shot. He said in a very vulgar way, | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
he hated all white people. There's nothing racial | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
about what happened. You look at the educational system, | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
70% of all African-American children This is tragic, and it's | :14:49. | :15:01. | |
a breakdown in our society. The perception that the African | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
Americans expect a different degree of treatment from American police | :15:06. | :15:07. | |
isn't part of this at all? Do you think our African-American | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
chief of police or an African American officer wants to degrade | :15:11. | :15:20. | |
somebody from his own race? I ride shotgun with our police, | :15:21. | :15:22. | |
from 10pm to 6am, I've done These people are valiant, | :15:23. | :15:29. | |
courageous people. There's issues on the streets every | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
night. They are courageous people, our law | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
enforcement, and I value them. People are instigators, | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
who incite these riots. That's why I'm calling | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
for the spirit of Martin Luther King to return, to not allow | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
the agitators to come in and exploit these situations, | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
and that's what they're doing. Doctor King, of course, | :15:53. | :16:00. | |
spoke of the need of love to be I sense from some of your comments | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
you're probably also Is it somehow fighting hate | :16:04. | :16:07. | |
with love to employ some of the rhetoric he employs, | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
with regards to Mexico of the rhetoric he employs, | :16:13. | :16:19. | |
with regards to Mexicans being rapists and murderers, | :16:20. | :16:21. | |
or the birth story? You have come out and in | :16:22. | :16:23. | |
support of Donald Trump. You cite the memory of Dr King, | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
and I can't quite square I missed your last comment, | :16:29. | :16:31. | |
did you say nobody is perfect? But the policies of the last 50 | :16:32. | :16:42. | |
years have enslaved these I'm looking ahead | :16:43. | :16:44. | |
to the next five now. I just wonder how you square | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
admiration for Donald Trump, who has cast aspersions | :16:51. | :16:52. | |
upon the very circumstances of an African-American's birth, | :16:53. | :16:54. | |
while also calling for the spirit of Dr King to be brought to bear, | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
upon the current violence. What I'm for is freedom | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
and opportunity and liberty, and that's what our Republican House | :17:05. | :17:06. | |
members stand for. To go to a better way, | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
you'll understand what we're about. We are about our agenda, | :17:13. | :17:15. | |
an agenda for creating greater We want Donald Trump to embrace us, | :17:16. | :17:17. | |
and we believe he will Congressmen Robert Pittenger, | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
thank you very much indeed. Joining me now from New York | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
is The Daily Beast's Let's begin, it's hard to know where | :17:28. | :17:42. | |
to begin... Let's begin with the claim there was no racial element to | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
what is happening in Charlotte at the moment because the chief of | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
police is African-American and the officer who fired the fatal shot is | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
also African-American, BoGo this isn't an issue of race. | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
I think it's a misnomer first of all to believe that an officer of the | :18:00. | :18:01. | |
law who happens to be African-American does not also | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
harbour some level of implicit, if not explicit bias against other | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
Americans, whether or not they are white or not white, | :18:11. | :18:13. | |
African-American, Hispanic or otherwise. So that has been proven | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
to be true in test after test. So for many African Americans, | :18:19. | :18:21. | |
specifically living in Charlotte, this is a racial issue. If you look | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
at Charlotte and its fabric, its economic and racial disparities and | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
disparities among racial intolerance lines it's a very fragile fabric | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
that has existed over these last several decades. If you look at what | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
happened last evening, yes, there was a flash point of an -- | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
African-American man who was disabled with the community says was | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
unarmed, the police officers say he was armed, who was shot as he waited | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
for his trial to get off a school bus. That was not necessarily the | :18:54. | :18:59. | |
cause of the uprising. It was simply the flash point. The cause is the | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
decades upon decades of economic and racial inequality in and around | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
Charlotte and in and around other US American cities. | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
It's not simply the case that, as the congressman suggested, they hate | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
all white people? No, not at all. What people hate is | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
the injustice they see reflected in this system. If I'm looking at the | :19:21. | :19:27. | |
cultural ins of the congressman IC uprising in the streets and | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
lawlessness that ought to be checked and a system that is fair to me and | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
people like me. I don't see the system from the other side from | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
black and brown people who happen to live in this country who are apart | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
on the other side of the occasion, who don't carry the same level of | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
privilege of not being able to see all being affected by implicit bias. | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
So I think there are cultural lenses at play here. The congressman sees | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
his version of truth and then the young people on the ground see their | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
day-to-day Myers and their truth and both of them have two square and | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
that is where the divide lies. What do you feel, Goldie Taylor, new | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
here and elected politician like that described African-American | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
people as not liking white people because white people are successful | :20:10. | :20:12. | |
and black people are not? I will put him up against every | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
black doctor and lawyer that I know in this country, company CEO, US | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
congressmen and women. I will put him up against every heart surgeon, | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
every black heart surgeon I know, every schoolteacher, every police | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
officer and then talk about what success means in the | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
African-American community., people with college degrees in the African | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
American community than at any time in history and employment Dummigan | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
employment rates have halved under Obama. Has never been a better time | :20:47. | :20:50. | |
for African-Americans in this country. To say it is perfect be | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
wrong, but to say we are in a time that is as bad as Jim Crow that | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
existed over 50 years ago, to say it is as bad as when the EPM system | :21:00. | :21:07. | |
existed in this country, or as bad as slavery, or the vicious maligning | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
of human rights in this country we are simply not therefore stop this | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
country has made a hell of a lot of progress. | :21:15. | :21:16. | |
You mentioned President Obama and the prospect of President Trump is | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
Hoving interview. Is this not helping him if he is the candidate | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
of change portraying chaos, then seems like the ones we've seen in | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
Charlotte somehow create the idea there is really something that needs | :21:29. | :21:30. | |
to be fixed? That's the fear, if you watch these | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
kinds of uprisings, if you watch the terrorist attacks in New York | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
recently when you had a young man planting pressure cooker bombs | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
around the city, some would say that that would indeed help the Trump | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
candidacy if you live in that kind of fear. But there are others on the | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
other hand who say Trump is not the answer to those kinds of dilemmas, | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
that we need a more comprehensive approach to immigration, a more | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
comprehensive approach to unemployment, a more comprehensive | :22:01. | :22:03. | |
approach to fixing public education. Trump doesn't give policies, he | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
gives, I will fix it and I'm the only one. America is looking for | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
change but I think it's difficult, quite frankly, to articulate a | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
comprehensive policy that we need. Goldie Taylor, thank you for your | :22:17. | :22:18. | |
time tonight. Thank you. The precarious ceasefire | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
in the Syrian civil war finally collapsed overnight as rebel-held | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
areas of the already devastated city of Aleppo came under | :22:29. | :22:30. | |
heavy aerial bombardment. Reports out of the city suggest that | :22:31. | :22:32. | |
incendiary bombs were dropped on the Bustan al-Qasr district, | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
killing at least 13 people, Tonight the Syrian army announced | :22:37. | :22:38. | |
the start of a new military offensive in the city, | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
urging civilians to avoid areas Let's cross to Aleppo now and speak | :22:45. | :22:46. | |
to Ismail Alabdullah. He works for the White Helmets, | :22:47. | :22:54. | |
a group of volunteer rescue workers who try to help victims | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
of the violence. If the picture seems dark, that's | :22:58. | :23:08. | |
because there is currently no electricity in his building tonight. | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
Ismail, can I begin by asking what you have been doing today? | :23:16. | :23:23. | |
Actually, today, we responded to many sites of bombing, lots of | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
people are under the rubble in many neighbourhoods. Last night it was | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
like hell in a Aleppo city and all of the neighbourhoods in Bustan | :23:35. | :23:47. | |
al-Qasr. We worked more than 24 hours to pull bodies from the | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
rubble. Since the ceasefire ended at seven o'clock two days ago many | :23:52. | :24:00. | |
people died almost 30 people on that night in just four hours. All of | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
died. Yesterday there were air strikes. Bombs killed 13 people, | :24:07. | :24:14. | |
like you said. Before the ceasefire ended everything was OK and people | :24:15. | :24:23. | |
were happy, walking on the streets, celebrating Eid and everything has | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
changed. The situation has become heavy bombing. The aid situation | :24:31. | :24:37. | |
remains precarious. Are any supplies reaching the city? Can I ask what | :24:38. | :24:45. | |
you have eaten today? Today I just have eaten some rice | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
from my friend. The other day I was looking for something to eat. I'm | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
not afraid for myself. I'm scared about the people, about the kids, | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
about the many people around Aleppo city. We have not received any aid | :25:02. | :25:15. | |
for two months, medical care, we are suffering from a lack of medical | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
supplies. We don't have enough doctors. Even electricity and the | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
electricity went off since almost three months. We have just | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
generators working for the hospitals. And in a few days we will | :25:30. | :25:36. | |
run out of everything. Even for water, we don't have drinking water. | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
We have just water from the well is that cannot be drinkable. The | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
situation has become worse and worse and worse. I think the line has | :25:49. | :25:56. | |
defeated us, and so indeed has the clock. Ismail alla Abdullah, thank | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
you for your time this evening. Modern politicians seem increasingly | :26:00. | :26:02. | |
obsessed with their legacy but it's fair to say that one of the biggest | :26:03. | :26:04. | |
bequests of Boris Johnson's London mayoralty is looking | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
decidedly troubled. His successor Sadiq Khan today | :26:09. | :26:09. | |
announced a comprehensive review of the so-called Garden Bridge | :26:10. | :26:11. | |
and appointed the former chair of the Commons | :26:12. | :26:13. | |
Public Accounts Committee, In a moment she'll tell us how | :26:14. | :26:15. | |
she plans to establish whether the ?60 million already | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
spent represents value for money for taxpayers | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
and whether transparency standards have been met | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
by the public bodies involved. But first, a report | :26:31. | :26:32. | |
from Newsnight's Hannah Barnes. At a cost of ?185 million | :26:33. | :26:42. | |
and now running a year Garden Bridge has barely been out | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
of the headlines in recent months. The choice of Dame Margaret Hodge | :26:46. | :26:55. | |
lead a review into how the Garden Bridge has | :26:56. | :26:57. | |
been handled so far is an interesting one. | :26:58. | :26:59. | |
As chair of the Commons Public Accounts Committee, | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
Hodge was famous for her fearless questioning and not shying away from | :27:03. | :27:05. | |
holding the most powerful and influential players in industry and | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
You're a company that says you do no evil, | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
Dame Margaret will look at whether the | :27:12. | :27:20. | |
Garden Bridge has achieved value for money from the taxpayers' | :27:21. | :27:22. | |
Some say Hodge's appointment is politically | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
motivated, but others, who are critical of | :27:27. | :27:28. | |
the plans, welcoming the London Mayor's decision. | :27:29. | :27:30. | |
I'm delighted Margaret Hodge is going to | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
take a look at this, because she knows, I think | :27:35. | :27:36. | |
she can smell a dud project when she sees one. | :27:37. | :27:39. | |
I think she's going to find this one is a real dud. | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
If this was built entirely with private money, and there was | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
enough private money to ensure it wasn't a liability on the taxpayer | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
in future, I's still think frankly it was a waste. | :27:54. | :27:56. | |
This is just a bad way to think of spending public money | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
and the sooner it's scrapped, the better. | :28:00. | :28:01. | |
Last month Newsnight revealed the funding shortfall for | :28:02. | :28:03. | |
the project was significantly greater than the public had been led | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
On top of the 60 million of public money pledged, the chair of the | :28:07. | :28:16. | |
Garden Bridge Trust, Lord Davies, told us that ?69 million had been | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
Since that appearance by Lord Davies more than a month ago, the Garden | :28:20. | :28:27. | |
Bridge Trust doesn't appear to have raised any new private money. | :28:28. | :28:29. | |
Indeed, just earlier this week, it told the Times newspaper that | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
private fund-raising still stood at ?69 million. | :28:34. | :28:39. | |
So despite the fact that those behind the Garden Bridge | :28:40. | :28:41. | |
have made it very clear that this is now a critical | :28:42. | :28:44. | |
time for the project, the money that they desperately need | :28:45. | :28:47. | |
to make this project happen just isn't materialising. | :28:48. | :28:49. | |
Letters and e-mails released this week under the | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
Freedom of Information Act have shown that the Garden Bridge came | :28:53. | :29:00. | |
perilously close to being pulled earlier this summer. | :29:01. | :29:02. | |
In an e-mail on the 11th of July, a senior civil | :29:03. | :29:05. | |
servant at the Department for Transport explicitly asked the | :29:06. | :29:08. | |
Garden Bridge Trust whether without the government | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
agreeing to extend a guarantee to underwrite the bridge, | :29:15. | :29:16. | |
the trustees would be unable to continue with the project. | :29:17. | :29:28. | |
Bee Emmott, the executive director of the garden | :29:29. | :29:31. | |
Bridge trust replies, yes, trustees need this | :29:32. | :29:33. | |
to demonstrate we are we are growing concern. | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
Without the underwriting they would struggle to demonstrate | :29:38. | :29:39. | |
Another letter has raised concerns for Will Hurst | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
On the 11th of July the trough's German, Mervyn Davies wrote to one | :29:44. | :29:55. | |
of the transport ministers, explaining that there were all sorts | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
of problems with the project, that it might need to be terminated | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
in the next few months and that they had stood | :30:02. | :30:03. | |
Now, on the very same day it turns out the garden bridge trust | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
was telling the Evening Standard, and therefore Londoners, that | :30:10. | :30:12. | |
They also released a statement on their website, this | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
is the garden bridge trust, saying construction has not been | :30:16. | :30:18. | |
halted because construction hasn't yet started. | :30:19. | :30:19. | |
I think the documents disclose something that's really | :30:20. | :30:21. | |
At the same time that the Bridge Trust was writing to the Minister | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
in the Department for Transport to say they've had to put work | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
on hold, they were telling the London Evening Standard that | :30:29. | :30:30. | |
everything was going absolutely swimmingly. | :30:31. | :30:32. | |
Now you know, that's at best misleading, at worst it's | :30:33. | :30:34. | |
A spokesperson for the Garden Bridge Trust said there is no deception, | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
you are comparing a letter to our delivery partner, | :30:41. | :30:42. | |
outlining funding risks where we discussed the worst-case | :30:43. | :30:44. | |
scenarios, with a press statement that clearly talks | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
about the operations work the team is doing to move ahead on all | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
the planning activities required to enable construction to commence. | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
Dame Margaret's review will cost ?25,000 and Sadiq Khan has promised | :30:56. | :30:57. | |
It will then be in his power to decide whether the | :30:58. | :31:06. | |
We did ask to speak to someone from the Garden Bridge Trust | :31:07. | :31:16. | |
No matter, with me now is Dame Margaret Hodge, | :31:17. | :31:22. | |
has been asked by the London Mayor to look into this project. | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
Did Sadiq Khan tell you why he wanted you particular for this job? | :31:27. | :31:33. | |
I think it's my experience over the five years of the last Parliament, | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
when I was responsible for China Public Accounts Committee, and our | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
job was to look at value for money for public expenditure. What I'm | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
looking for in this project is not the project in its totality, it's | :31:47. | :31:53. | |
the Garden Trust. If they raised money privately that is brilliant, | :31:54. | :31:57. | |
I'm looking at the Public expenditure part of it, the ?60 | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
million promised, of which ?40 million has been spent, to see | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
whether it is value for money, whether the procurement process was | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
best practice and whether there was proper transparency in the decisions | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
that were taken. Do you still fancy the job having seen that report? | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
There we are, I will get a van load of stuff delivered tomorrow to my | :32:19. | :32:21. | |
house, so I will have really exciting reading over the weekend. I | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
get access to all the papers that City Hall have, so I will stop with | :32:28. | :32:30. | |
that. There have been various reviews. I will go through that. I | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
hope everybody will talk to me, including the Garden Trust and after | :32:36. | :32:38. | |
I've read the papers I will have a clear review of who I have to talk | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
to and what questions that need to ask. And you arrive at this task | :32:43. | :32:49. | |
with your impartiality scrupulous, but you do possess teeth and they | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
are teeth you are not afraid to bear in the chairmanship of that Public | :32:54. | :32:55. | |
Accounts Committee. Have you been entrusted with enough power, | :32:56. | :33:02. | |
conclusions depend on, to end this project before it's begun? I'm not | :33:03. | :33:07. | |
going in to end this project, I am impartial. Is that on the table as a | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
possibility, if your findings... The decision in the end is for others, | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
not me at all. The power lies more with the Department for Transport | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
and the male's office. That your advice could constitute a caution? | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
Let's see. I'm trying to work out what powers you have. I've got the | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
powers to look at everything, all the papers in City Hall. When I was | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
doing the Public Accounts Committee, we had to sometimes fight to get | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
access to papers. This time I'm told everything that goes into City Hall | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
is there. I hope people will come and talk to me about it. Will you | :33:45. | :33:50. | |
encourage them to do so? I want to clarify how as a layman howl nearly | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
?40 million can be spent on a budget before a brick has been delayed or | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
ground has been broken, do we know? That is the question I will have to | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
ask. That is your starting point. Dame Margaret Hodge, thank you. | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
A fictional account of the 72-hour long deliberations of Roman Catholic | :34:07. | :34:09. | |
cardinals charged with electing a new Pope may not offer | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
immediately obvious lessons for the British Labour party. | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
But the bestselling author, and former confidante of Tony Blair, | :34:18. | :34:19. | |
Robert Harris has extrapolated precisely that from his | :34:20. | :34:21. | |
Papal elections are a famously secretive process with their roots | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
in the thirteenth century culminating, of course, | :34:27. | :34:28. | |
with the release of plumes of white smoke so we thought | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
we'd charge Harris - once a reporter on Newsnight | :34:32. | :34:39. | |
of course - with explaining what lessons the papal politicians | :34:40. | :34:41. | |
might have for their secular cousins. | :34:42. | :35:01. | |
I wanted to write a novel about the election of a Pope, | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
not because I'm a Catholic which I'm not, but | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
because I'm a political writer and a conclave is the oldest | :35:08. | :35:09. | |
and most secretive electoral process on Earth. | :35:10. | :35:11. | |
I was allowed to go behind-the-scenes of the Vatican to | :35:12. | :35:13. | |
see the places where a conclave takes place, | :35:14. | :35:19. | |
in the corridors and in the bedrooms of the Cardinals where they gather | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
to discuss the candidates, in the room where the new Pope | :35:23. | :35:25. | |
is dressed and even allowed to follow the walk he takes soon | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
One aim of the novel was to take the reader inside | :35:29. | :35:51. | |
Another was to see whether this 700-year-old ritual, this | :35:52. | :36:01. | |
extraordinary coalition between the sacred and the profane still had | :36:02. | :36:03. | |
lessons to offer modern politics, in particular in this season of | :36:04. | :36:06. | |
It's a fairly reliable rule of recent papal elections that | :36:07. | :36:19. | |
whoever starts as favourite ends up losing, | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
as is often said to be the case in Tory leadership elections. | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
The Cardinals may not know who they want to choose as Pope, | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
but they often know who they don't want and the favourite | :36:35. | :36:36. | |
Unless a popular incumbent is standing again which obviously | :36:37. | :36:50. | |
is never the case with a conclave, elections are very much an | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
opportunity for change and most of the Popes elected over | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
the last 60 years have been, in a way, change | :37:00. | :37:01. | |
There is a warning here for Hillary Clinton above all, | :37:02. | :37:12. | |
because if even the elderly Cardinals | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
of the conclave want to see a change, how much more | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
so do millions of voters in the United States? | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
When the cardinals gather in the Sistine | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
Chapel, the first thing they do is pray that the holy spirit will come | :37:30. | :37:32. | |
among them and guide them to a candidate. | :37:33. | :37:34. | |
And once one of their number begins to attract a lot of | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
votes, inevitably they have the aura of being God's chosen. | :37:40. | :37:42. | |
What in a secular election a psephologist | :37:43. | :37:43. | |
Whether or not you believe that Jeremy Corbyn is the second | :37:44. | :37:50. | |
coming, it was certainly wise of his supporters to colonise that | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
particular word and his opponents have been on the defensive ever | :37:55. | :37:57. | |
Cardinals in a conclave are traditionally supposed to insist | :37:58. | :38:09. | |
that they have no desire to become Pope. | :38:10. | :38:17. | |
Nevertheless, those popes who are most successful, John XXIII, | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
John Paul II and the present Pope seemed to come almost | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
from the start, project an aura of confidence. | :38:24. | :38:25. | |
It's important to appear at ease in the role and it's also | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
Any divisions are kept behind closed doors. | :38:29. | :38:38. | |
And when the winning candidate emerges, the church | :38:39. | :38:40. | |
Secular politics has a lot to learn from conclaves. | :38:41. | :38:52. | |
Conclave, from the Latin conclavis - with a key. | :38:53. | :38:58. | |
Since the 13th century this was how the church had | :38:59. | :39:01. | |
ensured its Cardinals would come to a decision. | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
They would not be released from the chapel except for | :39:06. | :39:07. | |
meals and to sleep until they had chosen a Pope. | :39:08. | :39:10. | |
Finally the cardinal electors were alone. | :39:11. | :39:21. | |
The nation was rocked again today with further news of defections | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
from the Great British Bake Off team, as the show makes its | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
This morning we learned that Mary Berry will not be making | :39:31. | :39:39. | |
leaving Paul Hollywood as the only on-screen talent left. | :39:40. | :39:42. | |
If you're a fan of the show, though, don't worry. | :39:43. | :39:44. | |
We've got hold of a sneak preview of how the new show might look. | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
What we want to do is take it back to basics a little bit. | :39:48. | :39:53. | |
But that doesn't mean that the judging's | :39:54. | :39:54. | |
We've never done anything like this on Bake Off | :39:55. | :40:01. |