23/09/2016 Newsnight


23/09/2016

With Kirsty Wark. Bradley Wiggins's former team doctor questions his steroid use. Plus Aleppo under siege, and what next for Labour?


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What's to become of a cycling superhero?

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Since the hacking of his medical records, Sir Bradley Wiggins has

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been mired in questions over his use of a powerful steroid before

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Tonight his former team doctor tells Newsnight he was "surprised"

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I would say now, certainly in retrospect, it doesn't look good,

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From a health or sporting perspective.

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We hear from a doctor at the hospital attacked today

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where two weeks ago we watched an operation guided

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I'll be talking to the surgeon who directed that operation

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It's 99% sure it's going to be Jeremy Corbyn's big day tomorrow.

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But can the rebels and the Corbynistas learn to live together?

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The Labour Party unites behind whoever wins,

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I hope and believe it will be Jeremy Corbyn.

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I do not approve of a decent 66-year-old man being mugged

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in broad daylight in cold blood by people who do not see

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A former team doctor of the cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins has questioned

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the decision to allow him to inject banned steroids ahead

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Prentice Steffen, the doctor at Sir Bradley's former

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team Garmin Slipstream, has weighed into the debate

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over his former rider's use of a powerful corticosteroid.

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Many believe it has potent performance enhancing benefits.

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Sir Bradley, who is Britain's most decorated Olympian,

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was given permission by cycling authorities to inject the drug ahead

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of three major stage races, including the 2012 Tour de

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Sir Bradley and his former cycling Team Sky have said his use

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of the drug was for legitimate medical reasons, and that no

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But the disclosure of the medical data, which was stolen and leaked

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by a group of suspected Russian hackers, has polarised

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the sport of cycling, which is has been attempting

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to confine its troubled history of drug-taking to the past.

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Team Sky launched in 2009 as the poster boy for a clean cycling.

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Accepting the mantle of dragging the sport out of the doping gutter. And

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proving the biggest races could be won without crossing the line into

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using banned drugs. But where that line actually lies is under more

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scrutiny than ever before. With the disclosures from the suspected

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Russian hackers over the therapeutic use exemptions for TUEs, obtain for

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its former star rider, Sir Bradley Wiggins. And whether these have

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strayed into the so-called grey area between clean and doping. From Team

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Sky, pro cycling... Sir Bradley Wiggins! And asthma and allergy

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sufferer, the stolen data revealed he was given permission to inject

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the banned drug triamcinolone, a powerful corticosteroid just ahead

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of three major races, including the 2012 edition of the Tour de France,

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which he won, becoming the first Briton ever to do so. The story has

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polarised the sport. This is, after all, stolen data containing the

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medal records of our greatest ever Olympian. Data which shows that

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neither he nor Team Sky have broken any rules, they have followed the

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cycling authorities' procedures to the limit. So why is this being

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discussed? Because there are those who believe that this was unethical.

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But it does not smell right. And now the figures intimate with the world

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of cycling and the fight against performing its enhancing drugs,

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including Sir Bradley Wiggins' team doctor, have told Newsnight they

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fear something is amiss. 2009 was his breakthrough year in road

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racing. Riding for the Garmin Slipstream team. Doctor Prentice

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Steffen cannot comment on Sir Bradley Wiggins' private records but

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he did say this... I was surprised to see that there were TUEs

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documented for intramuscular triamcinolone just before three

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major events, the Tour de France and the Giro D'Italia. We do think it is

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coincidental that a big dose of intramuscular corticosteroid would

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be needed at that time of year at that exact time before the most

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important race of the season. The rules for obtaining TUEs stipulate

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these conditions. The banned drug can only be used to treat an acute

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or chronic medical condition. That it is highly unlikely to produce any

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additional enhancement of performance. And that there is still

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reasonable therapeutic alternative. So what of the first? The

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interpretation of acute or chronic is subjective. But some of those who

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treat these conditions in athletes say this is not the course of action

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they would expect to see. Doctor John Dickinson has worked with more

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than 1000 athletes with respiratory problems. You are not being

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controlled with your normal inhaler, then that medication is reserved for

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individuals who have a very severe asthma responds and they are in need

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of emergency care, which would suggest that particular individual

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is maybe not fit and well to compete in any league road race at that

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point. So what of the second condition, that the TUE must be

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highly unlikely to produce any additional enhancement of

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performance? Some experts say cortical strides don't but others,

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including former pro cyclists, insist they do. I have come to

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Denmark to meet one man who should know. Michael had been just four

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stages away from winning the Tour de France in 2007 when he was thrown

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out of the race for avoiding doping controls. He later blew the whistle

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on his own doping and the culture within the sport at that time. Is

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there any doubt in your mind that corticosteroids are put into

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performance enhancing drug? There is no doubt. There are very strong.

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Banned performance enhancing. What sort of benefits would

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corticosteroids give the rider? Well, Edward postpone the sensation

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of fatigue, increased recovery speed and most importantly, quite easily,

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I would maybe drop one or none two kilos, which is maybe a problem when

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you want to climb mountains fast. It would help you burn fat? Yes, it

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would strip the body of excess fat in quite a short period of time. And

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you have watched this happening to your body? Yes, it is very fast and

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very effective in that sense. So what of this depletion that they

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should be no reasonable therapeutic alternative? For severe asthma and

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allergy attacks, the people we spoke to agreed that triamcinolone will

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certainly do the job. But that does not make it necessarily the right

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drug for the job. I have never myself been involved with another

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late who is going that far in terms of treatment for an asthmatic

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condition, we really concentrate on working on athletes to make sure

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that when we know they are asthmatic we make sure they're on the ultimate

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inhaler therapy so they never need to go to that level, to go above or

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into the TUE area. Had Bradley Wiggins needed triamcinolone when

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with his former team, he would have been deemed to sick to race, in

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which he finished fourth. Garman and the rest of the peloton formed a

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group called the movement for credible cycling, whose members were

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bound by strict rules around racing on corticosteroids, Team Sky never

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joined. I was never there to see what Bradley's condition was. But

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many of us would say that if you are in bad shape to need medically to

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resort to high-powered corticosteroids, you should not be

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racing at all and that is the position of the MPC see. Only Sir

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Bradley Wiggins and the Team Sky doctors know the full details of his

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medical condition. What we do know is he had a TUE from standard

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inhaler in 2009 which would no longer need an exemption. And it was

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in that year that Bradley Wiggins made his breakthrough, finishing

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fourth in the tour of France. Without any corticosteroid TUE.

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According to the TUE form in 2011 and nasal endoscopy was performed

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with Team Sky Doctor suggesting a more serious intervention was

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required to treat Sir Bradley Burrowes like allergies. However, he

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continued to race in the years following his final TUE in 2013 in

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high pollen areas, albeit in a shorter and less profile race. In

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2012 he published a 300 page autobiography and there is no

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mention of asthma or allergies but he does speak about how healthy he

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had been in 2012, suffering only from one or two minor colds. The

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convicted doper, Michael Rasmus, says the pattern of Sir Bradley

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Burrowes Mike TUE use look similar. Just looking at the drugs and the

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dates of the injections, it looked very much like something that could

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have happened ten years ago when I was riding. If you look solely at

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the pattern of the TUEs of Bradley Wiggins, then you would say that

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this looks very suspicious. It is something that a rider would do if

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he wants to perform on a grand tour. Something that I would do something

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that I did. I would say certainly that in retrospect, it does not look

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good, it does not look right. From a health or sporting perspective. The

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process around the granting of TUEs is now under question. Each

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application is submitted by the team doctor and in the case of Bradley

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Wiggins it is understood that was Doctor Richard Freeman, now the head

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doctor at British cycling. The application is then supposed to be

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assessed by three independent medical experts, with the relevant

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sporting authority. In this case, the new CI, before being authorised.

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I would say that Bradley is probably at the bottom of the list, to be

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held personally responsible. I think his doctor and his team, to make the

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decision to apply for that TUE, is questionable and then I think, for

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the international cycling union or UK cycling or the World Anti-Doping

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Agency to sign off on that, that application, all things considered,

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I think really bad as the end point where the TUE committee should have

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looked at that and said, this is not acceptable. We're not going to it.

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You see I told Newsnight it had a robust TUE policy. This is a story

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that seems to be painted in shades of grey and even then, we don't have

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the full picture. But at least in the eyes of one former cheat, there

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remains a clear line between right and wrong. Well, a lot of riders

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feel that they are playing by the rules. But I think that once you

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actually make that decision, to get the certificate for the wrong

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reasons, then you are crossing the line. Sir Bradley Burrowes met

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representatives did not respond to questions from Newsnight. But

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previously they said in a statement...

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Sir Bradley Wiggins team insist that nothing has been done that is wrong.

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But for some, it is a situation with echoes of cycling past that was

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hoped had disappeared for good. And a situation which some believe needs

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all the facts disclosed. And there will be an exclusive

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interview with Bradley Wiggins on the Andrew Marr Show

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on Sunday morning. Aleppo has been under

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intense bombardment today. More than 45 people are reported

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to have been killed in rebel held areas, but it's not clear

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whether it was from Syrian The White House said tonight that

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Russia's credibility is at stake. We understand that a hospital

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was attacked - the same hospital from where you may remember,

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Newsnight was able to bring you film of an operation being guided

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from London over Skype Today we got alarming

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news of the current I must warn you that his film begins

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with an image that some Two weeks ago this man

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got a new jaw, thanks In a world first, they were talked

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through how to do the operation by London surgeon Dr David Nott,

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via Skype and WhatsApp. The patient is recovering well

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and that is pretty amazing for a city under siege,

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but tonight Newsnight has learnt that the hospital is running out

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of food and neither doctors nor patients have

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eaten properly for days. So this man who was pulled

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through an incredibly complicated Today, the surgeon in Aleppo

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sent Dr Nott an update. The writing on the cluster bomb

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is in the Russian alphabet. We cannot verify the photo,

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but Human Rights Watch has identified cluster bombs being used

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at least ten times The Russians have consistently

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denied using cluster bombs. You have many of them

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in a larger bomb casing. These are dispersed

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above the target. They fall onto the target

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and they explode on contact. We find that these type

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of cluster munitions, many of them do not explode

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and you get remains like this, partial remains of them as you can

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see in these photographs. What is interesting about these,

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is the specific type of cluster munitions was not seen

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until the Russian bombing campaign in Syria started and we also have

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images from the Russian Ministry of Defence that show Russian jets

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using these cluster bombs in Syria. Back in the hospital,

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doctors sent these images of children being operated

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on to David Nott who This boy has lost right arm and this

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is the latest victim. Newsnight has been told that five

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rockets hit the area around Just two weeks ago, the doctors

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were breaking medical boundaries Tonight, they are hungry,

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under fire, under siege David Nott - the surgeon who you saw

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in that piece - joins us. Good evening. You are getting

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increasingly frantic messages today then. From this morning onwards,

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they sent a message to save the hospital had been bond with cluster

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bombs and I was asking if they were OK and there was no response with --

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from hours on end and then there was a response to say they were OK but

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they were inundated with patience and there are no beds, the beds are

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full, no ITU beds and they were running out of intravenous fluids to

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resuscitate their patients. A dire situation. These doctors are working

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night and day. 24 hours a day, there are only three of them now, three

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surgeons, very good surgeons, well-qualified, but

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they are there constantly. When we watched you on the Newsnight

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filament gauging the operation, extraordinary, in the hospital, it

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would be unbelievable if they had managed to keep that man alive, they

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had done all that and then through lack of a feeding tube... He was not

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able to eat and we put a tube into his stomach. Every patient that goes

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through trauma goes through a catabolic phase where you break

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down, you need protein, carbohydrates, fluid to continue the

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building up of the healing process and if you have not got any of those

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nutrients, then you are... Things will break down, your operation will

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break down, everything will break down. They showed me the photograph

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of him today and it is wonderful, but he has had no food for 24 hours

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and neither have the doctors. They said all they are

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having is super and water. We know tonight that there is no running

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water in Aleppo, what about the sale eyeing drips? There is no say line

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to resuscitate patients. If the patient comes in without any blood

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pressure, they need to resuscitate them with fluids and they do not

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have any. Apart from talking to these doctors, what is it that you

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are actually doing for them on so many different levels? When this

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operation happened, it was fantastic, it was a fantastic morale

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booster. They were happy, we got information that they were so happy,

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it went round the whole of Aleppo, everyone saw the film, they wanted

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more information, I started sending them books and we broke the siege by

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surgical aid. It was wonderful. This week has been a reversal. Do you

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feel about psychological impact you had, every time you speak to them,

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use break the siege? It is wonderful to be able to do that. I break the

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siege and they are happy and it is great. Do you think if the people

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who were making the decisions about what to do in Aleppo could see what

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was happening in these subterranean operating theatres, do you think

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there would be a different set of equations? Yes. Everyone is talking

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about the political aspects of Russia and America, but what is

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actually happening on the ground, these guys are working day and night

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to try and save civilian patients, children and everything else and it

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is a wonderful actor and if only people could see the humanitarian

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side, what they are doing is amazing. Thank you very much indeed.

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It would be a massive shock if Owen Smith were to be elected

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Labour leader tomorrow - but not impossible.

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However, it is almost certain that Jeremy Corbyn will win again,

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and then the battle to restore the party begins.

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But when one of Corbyn's main backers, the Unison boss

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Dave Prentis, writes in the Times today that Labour is unelectable -

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his exact words "Labour looks as far away from power and changing

:20:44.:20:46.

the country for the better than at any point in my lifetime",

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you know there is a Herculean task ahead.

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Here's our Political Editor Nick Watt.

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How will pan out,? There is widespread expectation that he will

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be re-elected. We will hold back from pronouncing on that until the

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envelope is opened. We have some idea of a meeting later on in the

:21:19.:21:22.

day and how that will go. There was a deadlock in a meeting earlier over

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the issue of whether Labour MPs should be entitled to elect members

:21:28.:21:31.

of the Shadow Cabinet and as I understand it, the non-Corbin forces

:21:32.:21:35.

are going to hold fire and not say a great deal and they are going to

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hope that Jeremy Corbyn will eventually think that in the spirit

:21:40.:21:43.

of his victory if he wins he should form a Shadow Cabinet including the

:21:44.:21:46.

likes of Yvette Cooper in the frame and

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to do that, he would have to allow Labour MPs to elect members to the

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Shadow Cabinet. Jeremy Corbyn is not expecting a great deal to happen at

:22:14.:22:16.

the NEC but here's hoping he gets a new mandate, he will be able to push

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gently for his idea that party members should have a say on who

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sits on the Shadow Cabinet. We thought we would take a look at the

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State of play in the party and here is my film.

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Until just a decade ago it bestrode the political stage.

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But the party which established the modern welfare

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As old battles are re-fought and debates turn into bitter personal

:22:31.:22:35.

For now, there is a lull in the fighting.

:22:36.:22:41.

Labour's warring factions have paused for breath as

:22:42.:22:44.

they wait to hear if Jeremy Corbyn has won.

:22:45.:22:50.

It is not since the 1930s, when the pacifist George Lansbury

:22:51.:22:53.

drew adoring crowds, that Labour has been

:22:54.:22:55.

led by such an unlikely Prime Ministerial figure.

:22:56.:23:00.

Three cheers for the international social democracy!

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But over two consecutive summers, Jeremy Corbyn has drawn

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similarly passionate crowds, prompting his admirers to say he is

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As the dust settles on this leadership contest,

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is now time to accept his authority, if he wins.

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I think it is going to be incredibly important that the

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Labour Party united behind whoever wins.

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I hope and believe it will be Jeremy Corbyn.

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decent 66-year-old man being mugged in broad

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daylight in cold blood by

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people who do not see that it is time for a change.

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Unity means listening on both sides but I am

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heartened by suggestions that people already are talking about coming

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There are all sorts of potential olive branches on offer.

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But it cannot just be a rhetorical olive branch.

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It has to be real, it has to be backed by action.

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The job of a leader is to stop bad things

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happening, not just to say, I am not accountable

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So it is about leading by example, it is about creating a culture where

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the leader's office and everybody around the leader and the

:24:18.:24:23.

PLP behave in a comradely way that shows we are a party of

:24:24.:24:26.

There are still deep doubts about Jeremy Corbyn among the

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172 Labour MPs who voted in favour of a no-confidence motion in the

:24:35.:24:38.

Leading figures are saying he would have to mend his

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ways before they would agree to rejoin his front bench.

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Well, we have got to change the approach and

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And that is the first task for whoever is elected leader tomorrow.

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I resigned from the Shadow Cabinet because not of policy differences

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but because of a fundamental disagreement with the sort of

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approach that says this is a battle, this is a war.

:25:07.:25:08.

And it must be won and dissenting voices must be silenced.

:25:09.:25:12.

I think a Shadow Cabinet can function and should function

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with policy disagreements, that is how you get the right answers.

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But a political party, a social movement,

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a Shadow Cabinet simply cannot survive if you refuse to hear

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dissenting voices and work as a team to try and resolve differences.

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Then it is not a Shadow Cabinet, it is

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One critic says there are two sides to the

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Like any movement it has a light side and a dark

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The challenge for the Labour Party is to harness that positive

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energy, it is fantastic that we have so many young people who have joined

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our party but there is a darker side of the movement.

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Which I think becomes more about a personality cult.

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While Jeremy Corbyn will be able to establish some

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form of front bench, his opponents are not giving up.

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They are fighting to ensure Corbyn supporters cannot win control

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It will be a battle between the heirs of Tony

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Benn, who wanted to increase the role of party members, and the

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custodians of Clause I of the Labour Party constitution.

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This stresses the importance of a

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Parliamentary Labour Party in seeking to form a government.

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That being a test, can we get into government?

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It certainly seems to have been accepted by the Jeremy

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Corbyn campaign this time round and that is good,

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Because I think it is important that we become a movement

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But our primary purpose is to get into government

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and that distinguishes us from NGOs or protest groups.

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One former frontbencher says voters are switched off

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We are stuck in an argument about how

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to wrest control of a machine without a real vision about what we

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There are real pressing debates going on in this

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country and at the moment, because we are locked

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in this internal war, Labour simply is not thinking

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We are not just failing to be an effective opposition, we're

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also failing to be an alternative to this Tory

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government and frankly it

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The public will not forgive us unless we stop arguing

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with each other and start to look outwards to the country.

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Some of Jeremy Corbyn's former comrades on

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the left believe the party is facing the worst crisis in its history.

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Jeremy, and I am sure he would be the first to concede this, is no

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But in addition, he never has attained, and I fear he won't,

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the stature of somebody who could be Prime Minister.

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We are facing the biggest crisis, I believe, that the party has faced,

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even compared with the Ramsay MacDonald defection, what was that,

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80 years ago or so, and the crisis that followed the 1979 defeat and

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the breakaway by the social Democratic party and the defection

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of significant numbers of Labour members and leaders. This is more

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serious. Corbyn's old friend Chris Mullin who has not supported his

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leadership believes that Corbyn has disproved the central thesis of his

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own landmark 1982 thriller. In a very British coup, the unseen state,

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ensured that a left-wing Labour leader would fail. It is not the

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unseen hand of the establishment that is seeking to undermine this,

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the establishment hardly need bother themselves because Labour is doing a

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pretty good job itself. The contortions in the Labour Party are

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even causing alarm amongst Tories. Of course, it looks at first sight

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as if it is to the advantage of one party if its main opponents are in

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the state of some disarray. Actually my experience is that the government

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does a better job of governing if it has an opposition keeping it on its

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toes and I hope the Labour Party, as it will, will eventually work its

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way back to a point were we are having a more sensible discussion.

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As the warring tribe gathers in Liverpool tonight, there is a

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growing realisation that Labour can ill afford a repeat of the

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last year and must push for a lease some semblance of unity. My

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messages, do not leave this party, do not quit it and splitting it

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would be disastrous. I think something very exciting has

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happened. I am one of hundreds of thousands of new members to the

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Labour Party in recent months and I would like members of the PLP, many

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of whom have been in the party all their lives, to feel encouraged by

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that and not threatened and hopefully we can bring all of these

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very exciting forces together and unite. Tomorrow in Liverpool, Labour

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will clear up the pieces and embark on the next age of its momentous

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journey, nobody has any clue of the destination. Our political editor.

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That's almost it for tonight, but before we go...

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The government has announced plans to re-classify all cars made before

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1977 as "classic" cars - meaning they are exempt from MOTs.

:30:33.:30:34.

This means that the humble Ford Cortina, once a mainstay

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of Britain's roads, will now be branded a collectors item.

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We leave you with Newsnight's homage to a new classic.

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# She gives him love on the leatherette.

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# But she only loves him because he's got a Cortina.

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# But she only loves him because he's got a Cortina.

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