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What's to become of a cycling superhero? | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Since the hacking of his medical records, Sir Bradley Wiggins has | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
been mired in questions over his use of a powerful steroid before | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
Tonight his former team doctor tells Newsnight he was "surprised" | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
I would say now, certainly in retrospect, it doesn't look good, | :00:18. | :00:24. | |
From a health or sporting perspective. | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
We hear from a doctor at the hospital attacked today | :00:30. | :00:36. | |
where two weeks ago we watched an operation guided | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
I'll be talking to the surgeon who directed that operation | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
It's 99% sure it's going to be Jeremy Corbyn's big day tomorrow. | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
But can the rebels and the Corbynistas learn to live together? | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
The Labour Party unites behind whoever wins, | :00:53. | :00:54. | |
I hope and believe it will be Jeremy Corbyn. | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
I do not approve of a decent 66-year-old man being mugged | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
in broad daylight in cold blood by people who do not see | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
A former team doctor of the cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins has questioned | :01:05. | :01:21. | |
the decision to allow him to inject banned steroids ahead | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
Prentice Steffen, the doctor at Sir Bradley's former | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
team Garmin Slipstream, has weighed into the debate | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
over his former rider's use of a powerful corticosteroid. | :01:33. | :01:40. | |
Many believe it has potent performance enhancing benefits. | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
Sir Bradley, who is Britain's most decorated Olympian, | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
was given permission by cycling authorities to inject the drug ahead | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
of three major stage races, including the 2012 Tour de | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
Sir Bradley and his former cycling Team Sky have said his use | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
of the drug was for legitimate medical reasons, and that no | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
But the disclosure of the medical data, which was stolen and leaked | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
by a group of suspected Russian hackers, has polarised | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
the sport of cycling, which is has been attempting | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
to confine its troubled history of drug-taking to the past. | :02:11. | :02:12. | |
Team Sky launched in 2009 as the poster boy for a clean cycling. | :02:13. | :02:29. | |
Accepting the mantle of dragging the sport out of the doping gutter. And | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
proving the biggest races could be won without crossing the line into | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
using banned drugs. But where that line actually lies is under more | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
scrutiny than ever before. With the disclosures from the suspected | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
Russian hackers over the therapeutic use exemptions for TUEs, obtain for | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
its former star rider, Sir Bradley Wiggins. And whether these have | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
strayed into the so-called grey area between clean and doping. From Team | :02:58. | :03:05. | |
Sky, pro cycling... Sir Bradley Wiggins! And asthma and allergy | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
sufferer, the stolen data revealed he was given permission to inject | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
the banned drug triamcinolone, a powerful corticosteroid just ahead | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
of three major races, including the 2012 edition of the Tour de France, | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
which he won, becoming the first Briton ever to do so. The story has | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
polarised the sport. This is, after all, stolen data containing the | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
medal records of our greatest ever Olympian. Data which shows that | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
neither he nor Team Sky have broken any rules, they have followed the | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
cycling authorities' procedures to the limit. So why is this being | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
discussed? Because there are those who believe that this was unethical. | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
But it does not smell right. And now the figures intimate with the world | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
of cycling and the fight against performing its enhancing drugs, | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
including Sir Bradley Wiggins' team doctor, have told Newsnight they | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
fear something is amiss. 2009 was his breakthrough year in road | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
racing. Riding for the Garmin Slipstream team. Doctor Prentice | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
Steffen cannot comment on Sir Bradley Wiggins' private records but | :04:20. | :04:27. | |
he did say this... I was surprised to see that there were TUEs | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
documented for intramuscular triamcinolone just before three | :04:32. | :04:39. | |
major events, the Tour de France and the Giro D'Italia. We do think it is | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
coincidental that a big dose of intramuscular corticosteroid would | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
be needed at that time of year at that exact time before the most | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
important race of the season. The rules for obtaining TUEs stipulate | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
these conditions. The banned drug can only be used to treat an acute | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
or chronic medical condition. That it is highly unlikely to produce any | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
additional enhancement of performance. And that there is still | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
reasonable therapeutic alternative. So what of the first? The | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
interpretation of acute or chronic is subjective. But some of those who | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
treat these conditions in athletes say this is not the course of action | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
they would expect to see. Doctor John Dickinson has worked with more | :05:29. | :05:30. | |
than 1000 athletes with respiratory problems. You are not being | :05:31. | :05:38. | |
controlled with your normal inhaler, then that medication is reserved for | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
individuals who have a very severe asthma responds and they are in need | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
of emergency care, which would suggest that particular individual | :05:48. | :05:49. | |
is maybe not fit and well to compete in any league road race at that | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
point. So what of the second condition, that the TUE must be | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
highly unlikely to produce any additional enhancement of | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
performance? Some experts say cortical strides don't but others, | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
including former pro cyclists, insist they do. I have come to | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
Denmark to meet one man who should know. Michael had been just four | :06:10. | :06:17. | |
stages away from winning the Tour de France in 2007 when he was thrown | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
out of the race for avoiding doping controls. He later blew the whistle | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
on his own doping and the culture within the sport at that time. Is | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
there any doubt in your mind that corticosteroids are put into | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
performance enhancing drug? There is no doubt. There are very strong. | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
Banned performance enhancing. What sort of benefits would | :06:45. | :06:52. | |
corticosteroids give the rider? Well, Edward postpone the sensation | :06:53. | :07:00. | |
of fatigue, increased recovery speed and most importantly, quite easily, | :07:01. | :07:10. | |
I would maybe drop one or none two kilos, which is maybe a problem when | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
you want to climb mountains fast. It would help you burn fat? Yes, it | :07:15. | :07:21. | |
would strip the body of excess fat in quite a short period of time. And | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
you have watched this happening to your body? Yes, it is very fast and | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
very effective in that sense. So what of this depletion that they | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
should be no reasonable therapeutic alternative? For severe asthma and | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
allergy attacks, the people we spoke to agreed that triamcinolone will | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
certainly do the job. But that does not make it necessarily the right | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
drug for the job. I have never myself been involved with another | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
late who is going that far in terms of treatment for an asthmatic | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
condition, we really concentrate on working on athletes to make sure | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
that when we know they are asthmatic we make sure they're on the ultimate | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
inhaler therapy so they never need to go to that level, to go above or | :08:07. | :08:13. | |
into the TUE area. Had Bradley Wiggins needed triamcinolone when | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
with his former team, he would have been deemed to sick to race, in | :08:17. | :08:24. | |
which he finished fourth. Garman and the rest of the peloton formed a | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
group called the movement for credible cycling, whose members were | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
bound by strict rules around racing on corticosteroids, Team Sky never | :08:33. | :08:40. | |
joined. I was never there to see what Bradley's condition was. But | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
many of us would say that if you are in bad shape to need medically to | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
resort to high-powered corticosteroids, you should not be | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
racing at all and that is the position of the MPC see. Only Sir | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
Bradley Wiggins and the Team Sky doctors know the full details of his | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
medical condition. What we do know is he had a TUE from standard | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
inhaler in 2009 which would no longer need an exemption. And it was | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
in that year that Bradley Wiggins made his breakthrough, finishing | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
fourth in the tour of France. Without any corticosteroid TUE. | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
According to the TUE form in 2011 and nasal endoscopy was performed | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
with Team Sky Doctor suggesting a more serious intervention was | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
required to treat Sir Bradley Burrowes like allergies. However, he | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
continued to race in the years following his final TUE in 2013 in | :09:39. | :09:45. | |
high pollen areas, albeit in a shorter and less profile race. In | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
2012 he published a 300 page autobiography and there is no | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
mention of asthma or allergies but he does speak about how healthy he | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
had been in 2012, suffering only from one or two minor colds. The | :10:00. | :10:06. | |
convicted doper, Michael Rasmus, says the pattern of Sir Bradley | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
Burrowes Mike TUE use look similar. Just looking at the drugs and the | :10:10. | :10:18. | |
dates of the injections, it looked very much like something that could | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
have happened ten years ago when I was riding. If you look solely at | :10:23. | :10:30. | |
the pattern of the TUEs of Bradley Wiggins, then you would say that | :10:31. | :10:41. | |
this looks very suspicious. It is something that a rider would do if | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
he wants to perform on a grand tour. Something that I would do something | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
that I did. I would say certainly that in retrospect, it does not look | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
good, it does not look right. From a health or sporting perspective. The | :10:57. | :11:03. | |
process around the granting of TUEs is now under question. Each | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
application is submitted by the team doctor and in the case of Bradley | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
Wiggins it is understood that was Doctor Richard Freeman, now the head | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
doctor at British cycling. The application is then supposed to be | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
assessed by three independent medical experts, with the relevant | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
sporting authority. In this case, the new CI, before being authorised. | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
I would say that Bradley is probably at the bottom of the list, to be | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
held personally responsible. I think his doctor and his team, to make the | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
decision to apply for that TUE, is questionable and then I think, for | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
the international cycling union or UK cycling or the World Anti-Doping | :11:45. | :11:51. | |
Agency to sign off on that, that application, all things considered, | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
I think really bad as the end point where the TUE committee should have | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
looked at that and said, this is not acceptable. We're not going to it. | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
You see I told Newsnight it had a robust TUE policy. This is a story | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
that seems to be painted in shades of grey and even then, we don't have | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
the full picture. But at least in the eyes of one former cheat, there | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
remains a clear line between right and wrong. Well, a lot of riders | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
feel that they are playing by the rules. But I think that once you | :12:27. | :12:35. | |
actually make that decision, to get the certificate for the wrong | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
reasons, then you are crossing the line. Sir Bradley Burrowes met | :12:39. | :12:45. | |
representatives did not respond to questions from Newsnight. But | :12:46. | :12:47. | |
previously they said in a statement... | :12:48. | :13:01. | |
Sir Bradley Wiggins team insist that nothing has been done that is wrong. | :13:02. | :13:25. | |
But for some, it is a situation with echoes of cycling past that was | :13:26. | :13:28. | |
hoped had disappeared for good. And a situation which some believe needs | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
all the facts disclosed. And there will be an exclusive | :13:32. | :13:33. | |
interview with Bradley Wiggins on the Andrew Marr Show | :13:34. | :13:35. | |
on Sunday morning. Aleppo has been under | :13:36. | :13:37. | |
intense bombardment today. More than 45 people are reported | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
to have been killed in rebel held areas, but it's not clear | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
whether it was from Syrian The White House said tonight that | :13:44. | :13:45. | |
Russia's credibility is at stake. We understand that a hospital | :13:46. | :13:52. | |
was attacked - the same hospital from where you may remember, | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
Newsnight was able to bring you film of an operation being guided | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
from London over Skype Today we got alarming | :14:00. | :14:01. | |
news of the current I must warn you that his film begins | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
with an image that some Two weeks ago this man | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
got a new jaw, thanks In a world first, they were talked | :14:13. | :14:20. | |
through how to do the operation by London surgeon Dr David Nott, | :14:21. | :14:27. | |
via Skype and WhatsApp. The patient is recovering well | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
and that is pretty amazing for a city under siege, | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
but tonight Newsnight has learnt that the hospital is running out | :14:35. | :14:36. | |
of food and neither doctors nor patients have | :14:37. | :14:39. | |
eaten properly for days. So this man who was pulled | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
through an incredibly complicated Today, the surgeon in Aleppo | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
sent Dr Nott an update. The writing on the cluster bomb | :14:48. | :14:59. | |
is in the Russian alphabet. We cannot verify the photo, | :15:00. | :15:23. | |
but Human Rights Watch has identified cluster bombs being used | :15:24. | :15:25. | |
at least ten times The Russians have consistently | :15:26. | :15:27. | |
denied using cluster bombs. You have many of them | :15:28. | :15:36. | |
in a larger bomb casing. These are dispersed | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
above the target. They fall onto the target | :15:42. | :15:43. | |
and they explode on contact. We find that these type | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
of cluster munitions, many of them do not explode | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
and you get remains like this, partial remains of them as you can | :15:49. | :15:51. | |
see in these photographs. What is interesting about these, | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
is the specific type of cluster munitions was not seen | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
until the Russian bombing campaign in Syria started and we also have | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
images from the Russian Ministry of Defence that show Russian jets | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
using these cluster bombs in Syria. Back in the hospital, | :16:06. | :16:12. | |
doctors sent these images of children being operated | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
on to David Nott who This boy has lost right arm and this | :16:15. | :16:16. | |
is the latest victim. Newsnight has been told that five | :16:17. | :16:29. | |
rockets hit the area around Just two weeks ago, the doctors | :16:30. | :16:31. | |
were breaking medical boundaries Tonight, they are hungry, | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
under fire, under siege David Nott - the surgeon who you saw | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
in that piece - joins us. Good evening. You are getting | :16:43. | :17:02. | |
increasingly frantic messages today then. From this morning onwards, | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
they sent a message to save the hospital had been bond with cluster | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
bombs and I was asking if they were OK and there was no response with -- | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
from hours on end and then there was a response to say they were OK but | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
they were inundated with patience and there are no beds, the beds are | :17:23. | :17:29. | |
full, no ITU beds and they were running out of intravenous fluids to | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
resuscitate their patients. A dire situation. These doctors are working | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
night and day. 24 hours a day, there are only three of them now, three | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
surgeons, very good surgeons, well-qualified, but | :17:45. | :17:55. | |
they are there constantly. When we watched you on the Newsnight | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
filament gauging the operation, extraordinary, in the hospital, it | :18:00. | :18:01. | |
would be unbelievable if they had managed to keep that man alive, they | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
had done all that and then through lack of a feeding tube... He was not | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
able to eat and we put a tube into his stomach. Every patient that goes | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
through trauma goes through a catabolic phase where you break | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
down, you need protein, carbohydrates, fluid to continue the | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
building up of the healing process and if you have not got any of those | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
nutrients, then you are... Things will break down, your operation will | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
break down, everything will break down. They showed me the photograph | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
of him today and it is wonderful, but he has had no food for 24 hours | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
and neither have the doctors. They said all they are | :18:43. | :18:58. | |
having is super and water. We know tonight that there is no running | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
water in Aleppo, what about the sale eyeing drips? There is no say line | :19:03. | :19:04. | |
to resuscitate patients. If the patient comes in without any blood | :19:05. | :19:06. | |
pressure, they need to resuscitate them with fluids and they do not | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
have any. Apart from talking to these doctors, what is it that you | :19:10. | :19:12. | |
are actually doing for them on so many different levels? When this | :19:13. | :19:14. | |
operation happened, it was fantastic, it was a fantastic morale | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
booster. They were happy, we got information that they were so happy, | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
it went round the whole of Aleppo, everyone saw the film, they wanted | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
more information, I started sending them books and we broke the siege by | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
surgical aid. It was wonderful. This week has been a reversal. Do you | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
feel about psychological impact you had, every time you speak to them, | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
use break the siege? It is wonderful to be able to do that. I break the | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
siege and they are happy and it is great. Do you think if the people | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
who were making the decisions about what to do in Aleppo could see what | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
was happening in these subterranean operating theatres, do you think | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
there would be a different set of equations? Yes. Everyone is talking | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
about the political aspects of Russia and America, but what is | :20:10. | :20:11. | |
actually happening on the ground, these guys are working day and night | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
to try and save civilian patients, children and everything else and it | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
is a wonderful actor and if only people could see the humanitarian | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
side, what they are doing is amazing. Thank you very much indeed. | :20:26. | :20:28. | |
It would be a massive shock if Owen Smith were to be elected | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
Labour leader tomorrow - but not impossible. | :20:32. | :20:33. | |
However, it is almost certain that Jeremy Corbyn will win again, | :20:34. | :20:35. | |
and then the battle to restore the party begins. | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
But when one of Corbyn's main backers, the Unison boss | :20:39. | :20:40. | |
Dave Prentis, writes in the Times today that Labour is unelectable - | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
his exact words "Labour looks as far away from power and changing | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
the country for the better than at any point in my lifetime", | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
you know there is a Herculean task ahead. | :20:50. | :20:51. | |
Here's our Political Editor Nick Watt. | :20:52. | :21:03. | |
How will pan out,? There is widespread expectation that he will | :21:04. | :21:13. | |
be re-elected. We will hold back from pronouncing on that until the | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
envelope is opened. We have some idea of a meeting later on in the | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
day and how that will go. There was a deadlock in a meeting earlier over | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
the issue of whether Labour MPs should be entitled to elect members | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
of the Shadow Cabinet and as I understand it, the non-Corbin forces | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
are going to hold fire and not say a great deal and they are going to | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
hope that Jeremy Corbyn will eventually think that in the spirit | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
of his victory if he wins he should form a Shadow Cabinet including the | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
likes of Yvette Cooper in the frame and | :21:47. | :22:09. | |
to do that, he would have to allow Labour MPs to elect members to the | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
Shadow Cabinet. Jeremy Corbyn is not expecting a great deal to happen at | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
the NEC but here's hoping he gets a new mandate, he will be able to push | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
gently for his idea that party members should have a say on who | :22:20. | :22:22. | |
sits on the Shadow Cabinet. We thought we would take a look at the | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
State of play in the party and here is my film. | :22:26. | :22:25. | |
Until just a decade ago it bestrode the political stage. | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
But the party which established the modern welfare | :22:29. | :22:30. | |
As old battles are re-fought and debates turn into bitter personal | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
For now, there is a lull in the fighting. | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
Labour's warring factions have paused for breath as | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
they wait to hear if Jeremy Corbyn has won. | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
It is not since the 1930s, when the pacifist George Lansbury | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
drew adoring crowds, that Labour has been | :22:54. | :22:55. | |
led by such an unlikely Prime Ministerial figure. | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
Three cheers for the international social democracy! | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
But over two consecutive summers, Jeremy Corbyn has drawn | :23:05. | :23:11. | |
similarly passionate crowds, prompting his admirers to say he is | :23:12. | :23:13. | |
As the dust settles on this leadership contest, | :23:14. | :23:20. | |
is now time to accept his authority, if he wins. | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
I think it is going to be incredibly important that the | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
Labour Party united behind whoever wins. | :23:30. | :23:31. | |
I hope and believe it will be Jeremy Corbyn. | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
decent 66-year-old man being mugged in broad | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
daylight in cold blood by | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
people who do not see that it is time for a change. | :23:44. | :23:45. | |
Unity means listening on both sides but I am | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
heartened by suggestions that people already are talking about coming | :23:49. | :23:50. | |
There are all sorts of potential olive branches on offer. | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
But it cannot just be a rhetorical olive branch. | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
It has to be real, it has to be backed by action. | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
The job of a leader is to stop bad things | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
happening, not just to say, I am not accountable | :24:08. | :24:09. | |
So it is about leading by example, it is about creating a culture where | :24:10. | :24:17. | |
the leader's office and everybody around the leader and the | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
PLP behave in a comradely way that shows we are a party of | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
There are still deep doubts about Jeremy Corbyn among the | :24:27. | :24:34. | |
172 Labour MPs who voted in favour of a no-confidence motion in the | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
Leading figures are saying he would have to mend his | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
ways before they would agree to rejoin his front bench. | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
Well, we have got to change the approach and | :24:49. | :24:51. | |
And that is the first task for whoever is elected leader tomorrow. | :24:52. | :24:59. | |
I resigned from the Shadow Cabinet because not of policy differences | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
but because of a fundamental disagreement with the sort of | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
approach that says this is a battle, this is a war. | :25:07. | :25:08. | |
And it must be won and dissenting voices must be silenced. | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
I think a Shadow Cabinet can function and should function | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
with policy disagreements, that is how you get the right answers. | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
But a political party, a social movement, | :25:19. | :25:20. | |
a Shadow Cabinet simply cannot survive if you refuse to hear | :25:21. | :25:22. | |
dissenting voices and work as a team to try and resolve differences. | :25:23. | :25:25. | |
Then it is not a Shadow Cabinet, it is | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
One critic says there are two sides to the | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
Like any movement it has a light side and a dark | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
The challenge for the Labour Party is to harness that positive | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
energy, it is fantastic that we have so many young people who have joined | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
our party but there is a darker side of the movement. | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
Which I think becomes more about a personality cult. | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
While Jeremy Corbyn will be able to establish some | :26:02. | :26:03. | |
form of front bench, his opponents are not giving up. | :26:04. | :26:07. | |
They are fighting to ensure Corbyn supporters cannot win control | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
It will be a battle between the heirs of Tony | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
Benn, who wanted to increase the role of party members, and the | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
custodians of Clause I of the Labour Party constitution. | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
This stresses the importance of a | :26:24. | :26:24. | |
Parliamentary Labour Party in seeking to form a government. | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
That being a test, can we get into government? | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
It certainly seems to have been accepted by the Jeremy | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
Corbyn campaign this time round and that is good, | :26:39. | :26:40. | |
Because I think it is important that we become a movement | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
But our primary purpose is to get into government | :26:47. | :26:53. | |
and that distinguishes us from NGOs or protest groups. | :26:54. | :26:55. | |
One former frontbencher says voters are switched off | :26:56. | :26:57. | |
We are stuck in an argument about how | :26:58. | :27:04. | |
to wrest control of a machine without a real vision about what we | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
There are real pressing debates going on in this | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
country and at the moment, because we are locked | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
in this internal war, Labour simply is not thinking | :27:17. | :27:18. | |
We are not just failing to be an effective opposition, we're | :27:19. | :27:21. | |
also failing to be an alternative to this Tory | :27:22. | :27:24. | |
government and frankly it | :27:25. | :27:25. | |
The public will not forgive us unless we stop arguing | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
with each other and start to look outwards to the country. | :27:30. | :27:32. | |
Some of Jeremy Corbyn's former comrades on | :27:33. | :27:34. | |
the left believe the party is facing the worst crisis in its history. | :27:35. | :27:42. | |
Jeremy, and I am sure he would be the first to concede this, is no | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
But in addition, he never has attained, and I fear he won't, | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
the stature of somebody who could be Prime Minister. | :27:52. | :27:59. | |
We are facing the biggest crisis, I believe, that the party has faced, | :28:00. | :28:07. | |
even compared with the Ramsay MacDonald defection, what was that, | :28:08. | :28:13. | |
80 years ago or so, and the crisis that followed the 1979 defeat and | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
the breakaway by the social Democratic party and the defection | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
of significant numbers of Labour members and leaders. This is more | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
serious. Corbyn's old friend Chris Mullin who has not supported his | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
leadership believes that Corbyn has disproved the central thesis of his | :28:34. | :28:39. | |
own landmark 1982 thriller. In a very British coup, the unseen state, | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
ensured that a left-wing Labour leader would fail. It is not the | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
unseen hand of the establishment that is seeking to undermine this, | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
the establishment hardly need bother themselves because Labour is doing a | :28:53. | :28:58. | |
pretty good job itself. The contortions in the Labour Party are | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
even causing alarm amongst Tories. Of course, it looks at first sight | :29:04. | :29:10. | |
as if it is to the advantage of one party if its main opponents are in | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
the state of some disarray. Actually my experience is that the government | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
does a better job of governing if it has an opposition keeping it on its | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
toes and I hope the Labour Party, as it will, will eventually work its | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
way back to a point were we are having a more sensible discussion. | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
As the warring tribe gathers in Liverpool tonight, there is a | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
growing realisation that Labour can ill afford a repeat of the | :29:35. | :30:01. | |
last year and must push for a lease some semblance of unity. My | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
messages, do not leave this party, do not quit it and splitting it | :30:06. | :30:07. | |
would be disastrous. I think something very exciting has | :30:08. | :30:10. | |
happened. I am one of hundreds of thousands of new members to the | :30:11. | :30:12. | |
Labour Party in recent months and I would like members of the PLP, many | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
of whom have been in the party all their lives, to feel encouraged by | :30:16. | :30:17. | |
that and not threatened and hopefully we can bring all of these | :30:18. | :30:20. | |
very exciting forces together and unite. Tomorrow in Liverpool, Labour | :30:21. | :30:22. | |
will clear up the pieces and embark on the next age of its momentous | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
journey, nobody has any clue of the destination. Our political editor. | :30:26. | :30:27. | |
That's almost it for tonight, but before we go... | :30:28. | :30:29. | |
The government has announced plans to re-classify all cars made before | :30:30. | :30:32. | |
1977 as "classic" cars - meaning they are exempt from MOTs. | :30:33. | :30:34. | |
This means that the humble Ford Cortina, once a mainstay | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
of Britain's roads, will now be branded a collectors item. | :30:38. | :30:39. | |
We leave you with Newsnight's homage to a new classic. | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
# She gives him love on the leatherette. | :30:43. | :30:56. | |
# But she only loves him because he's got a Cortina. | :30:57. | :31:04. | |
# But she only loves him because he's got a Cortina. | :31:05. | :31:15. |