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The Inquiry into Historic Child Abuse is beset by yet more problems. | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
We reveal details about the breakdown of relations at the top. | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
Tonight, the lead QC has announced his resignation, | :00:11. | :00:12. | |
following the departure of his junior counsel. | :00:13. | :00:18. | |
The killing of British student Meredith Kercher. | :00:19. | :00:21. | |
A new documentary promises the definitive story of the case. | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
We interview the former boyfriend of Amanda Knox - | :00:25. | :00:26. | |
This interview is something that adds a point, how I fought to reach | :00:27. | :00:36. | |
the people and tell them, hey, I'm one of you. | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
I'm a normal guy who passed through a nightmare. | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
And in the aftershocks of the Presidential Debate, | :00:47. | :00:56. | |
TRUMP: She was a Miss Universe contestant and, ultimately, | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
a winner who they had a tremendously difficult time with | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
She gained a massive amount of weight and it was a real problem. | :01:05. | :01:12. | |
So rows over body-shaming sexism and poll movements. | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
There's plenty to chew over with our US election panel. | :01:15. | :01:27. | |
There is a huge problem at the top of the child abuse inquiry again. | :01:28. | :01:33. | |
The day after the lead QC Ben Emmerson was suspended - | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
he claimed he only found out on the internet - today we learned | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
that the junior counsel and human rights specialist | :01:42. | :01:43. | |
Elizabeth Procheska resigned on the 15th of this month. | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
And in the last few minutes, we have learned that Emmerson | :01:47. | :01:48. | |
We can reveal details of these events which suggest that, | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
no matter that Theresa May said today she was very confident | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
in the leadership of the inquiry under its fourth head, | :01:57. | :01:58. | |
Professor Alexis Jay, there has been | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
When Westminster orders a major enquiry, they rarely run completely | :02:02. | :02:18. | |
smoothly. They can take a very long time, often dealing with | :02:19. | :02:20. | |
controversial issues, and they can cost a fortune, but few have run | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
into as much trouble as the independent enquiry into child | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
sexual abuse. Arriving for work this morning, the current chair, | :02:32. | :02:34. | |
Professor Alexis Jay, the fourth that the enquiry has had in little | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
over two years. In the last 45 minutes, the news that Ben Emmerson, | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
the most senior lawyer on the enquiry, has resigned. In a | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
statement, Professor Alexis Jay said: | :02:48. | :03:19. | |
last night, Mr Emerson was suspended from the enquiry, prompted by | :03:20. | :03:28. | |
concerns over his leadership of the enquiry counsel and this afternoon | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
we learned that his deputy, Elizabeth Prochaska, and was in a | :03:34. | :03:35. | |
fortnight ago. There were suggestions today that Mrs | :03:36. | :03:42. | |
Prochaska's departure was entirely unrelated to last night's statement, | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
but we understand that not to be the case. Sources have told us there | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
were serious problems in the working relationship between Mrs Prochaska | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
and Ben Emmerson. They were the two most senior lawyers on the enquiry | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
into these problems prompted her sudden resignation and immediate | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
departure. For Professor Alexis Jay, the added headache that the largest | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
survivors group involved in the enquiry say they don't want her to | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
directly oversee their hearings because of her background as a | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
social worker. Today in enquiry statement insisted there was no | :04:16. | :04:16. | |
crisis. Others are very concerned. The | :04:17. | :04:42. | |
enquiry has issued a statement saying they are not in crisis but | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
frankly it simply isn't credible to claim this is properly functioning | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
when it is now on to its fourth chair, the lead counsel has been | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
suspended and apparently learned of that on the Internet, the second | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
most lawyer has resigned and it turns out resigned on the 15th of | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
September. This is a dysfunctional enquiry and we need urgent | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
reassurance by the chair that she is getting a grip on the situation. | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
When is the lead counsel going to, well, when they'll will be an | :05:14. | :05:16. | |
investigation into whatever he is supposed to have done? This is | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
beyond a pick-up. In the last month and a half, we have lost our chair. | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
We have now had the lead counsel suspended. This is not about hiccups | :05:27. | :05:35. | |
issues we can resolve. This is about examining why is enquiry is failing | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
us as survivors. Newsnight understands that Alexis Jay has | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
completed a review of the enquiry and she is considering running parts | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
of the 13 strands of the enquiry in parallel. Bitter experience has left | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
many child abuse survivors hugely sceptical of official attempts to | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
deliver justice. The enquiry was never likely to run completely | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
smoothly but the events of the last two days have been something nobody | :06:03. | :06:03. | |
expected. Earlier, before the news | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
about Ben Emmerson's resignation broke, I spoke to Andi Lavery | :06:06. | :06:07. | |
from the abuse survivors I began by asking him | :06:08. | :06:09. | |
for his reaction to Newsnight's revelations about the breakdown | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
in relations at the top There's been a breakdown | :06:15. | :06:16. | |
in relations if you're a survivor of the inquiry or if you are a core | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
participant, because we don't have any relationship | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
with the inquiry either, but I find it astonishing, | :06:26. | :06:27. | |
that this continues to happen. Tell me what your knowledge | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
was of Ben Emmerson. I was introduced to Ben Emmerson | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
by Theresa May back in one of the number of meetings I had | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
with her and the Home Office, who seem to be running the inquiry, | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
as well as the inquiry staff. Ben Emmerson from an early stage | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
sought to reassure and step in, but it really started back | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
in January of last year when the Home Affairs Committee | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
released derogatory e-mails about a number of survivors | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
and remarks by then enquiry staff. Mr Emmerson handled that and took it | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
over and sought to reassure ourselves and many behind us | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
to continue to engage So in fact since the beginning | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
Ben Emmerson has been a constant throughout the different | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
heads of the inquiry. Yes, and he's also showed | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
the utmost courtesy, professionalism and integrity | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
but not only that, his subject matter and his knowledge | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
of the nuances in what we face has been, I wouldn't say it was so much | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
breathtaking as really reassuring, and that's what we need, | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
because all we've ever seen is crass Tonight they say about | :07:36. | :07:37. | |
listening to us. It's absolutely galling, | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
the language they use. It's all PR and releasing | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
it to the media. What's changed since | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
we were children? Even the knowledge of his | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
suspension, what impact has that had an abuse survivors, | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
because I know that you are involved in a number | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
of different survivor groups? It's just like when we were kids | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
and he's been naughty It feels like just what happened | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
to us as children. Suspension - that's a school | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
word, you know? The guy's adversarial | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
and he's quite, you know, tough but, at the end of the day, | :08:14. | :08:24. | |
you can't have a wallflower in charge of this and he should | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
be in charge. You are clearly a supporter | :08:28. | :08:29. | |
of Ben Emmerson, because he has been there from the beginning | :08:30. | :08:37. | |
and he is deeply involved. Did you know Elizabeth | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
Prochaska as well? I've only been to one preliminary | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
hearing thus far, and I saw her at the preliminary hearing | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
with the Catholic Church back in July and the whole | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
atmosphere was a bit funny, but obviously that was seven days | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
before Justice Goddard went. Ben Emmerson e-mailed me | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
yesterday and he said, I'm worried about suicides | :09:02. | :09:08. | |
and people losing heart. And it seems to be, whether it's | :09:09. | :09:18. | |
towards the staff or the people taking part, brave survivors, | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
there is no duty of care. Finally, if you had something to say | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
to Theresa May tonight, Theresa May met myself and the other | :09:26. | :09:33. | |
survivors from across the country We have a demos, we represent | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
others, vulnerable adults not capable of articulating | :09:39. | :09:47. | |
what happened to them as children. Less of the sound bites, | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
meet with us, let's work this out. If they can do it in Australia, | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
they can do it here. There are good staff in the inquiry, | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
there are good ideas but there's a lot of rubbish and there's a lot | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
of people after the money. We need to sort this out and we need | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
to sort it out now and save lives, Thank you so much for | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
joining us tonight. If the Prime Minister | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
is still undecided as to the shape and terms of Brexit, | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
and whether to announce in her party conference speech the date | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
on which the UK will trigger Article 50 and start the whole thing, | :10:23. | :10:24. | |
her International Trade Secretary is steaming ahead anyway | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
with his vision. Brexit, according to Liam Fox, | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
will be a deal which will make our trade with the European Union | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
as least as free as it We'll be out of the single market | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
and outside the customs union. And the key thing, he wants Britain | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
to take a seat as an independent member of the World | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
Trade Organisation. So is this an agreed policy or just | :10:45. | :11:01. | |
Liam Fox shooting from the lip? This is pretty much what happened. It | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
Liam Fox reading a speech today and setting out his vision of what | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
Brexit will look like. We know that, when you leave the world trade | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
organisation as part of this relationship with the EU, you take | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
independent membership. That can mean staying in a single market. | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
Norway do that. In this case, I don't think it will. In his speech, | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
Liam Fox mentioned the WTO no fewer than eight times and he mentioned | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
the single market just once. I think what we got was not exactly a | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
barnstorming speech, Kirsty, but one with plenty of history lessons. | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
There was a bit of Adam Smith, a bit of the corn laws and a bit about the | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
value of free trade to the British economy and how he wanted us to be | :11:49. | :11:51. | |
right at the forefront of that, to look beyond Europe and embrace trade | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
with the rest of the world. I believe that the UK is in a prime | :11:55. | :11:56. | |
position to become a world leader in free trade because of the brave | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
and historic decision of the British people | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
to leave the European Union. Those who believe that | :12:03. | :12:04. | |
the referendum was a sign of Britain looking inwards have it | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
completely 100% wrong. It is the beginning of Britain | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
increasing its global engagement. But no specifics, no talk of | :12:14. | :12:32. | |
manufacturing or servicing is or the financial service sector, the most | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
viable part of the sector? Very few specifics. We had no dates, nothing | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
about whether it would be hard or soft. Lots of people reading into | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
this that it would be hard. Nothing at all about specific bits of the | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
economy. There are two bits that we should look towards, and one is the | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
automotive sector, which has been very loud in its lobbying and today, | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
almost as doctor fox was speaking, the chief executive of Renault- | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
Nissan, who make half a million cars a year in the UK, saying that he | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
would be looking for compensation if tariffs were imposed on his car. | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
Financial services is the other one, the biggest export. That is a sector | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
where a lot of people I have spoken to recently say they are confused, | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
they want some guidance, more than anything the City hates a lack of | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
information. That's what they have at the moment. If they were | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
expecting answers and clarity today, they didn't get it. | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
Joining me now is Gerard Lyons, co-chair of Economists for Brexit | :13:34. | :13:35. | |
and Rain Newton-Smith, Chief Economist from the CBI. | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
Good evening to both of you. First of all, Gerard, how did you | :13:41. | :13:50. | |
interpret Liam Fox's tone? I did was a good speech in the sense it was | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
about global Britain. It's been important since the referendum | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
result for the UK to convey to the rest of the world that we are | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
thinking globally. It isn't just about a good relationship with the | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
rest of the EU but about our ability to sell our goods and services | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
international beef. It talked about the WTO. It was short and -- short | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
on specifics but one part of the debate is about the need to have a | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
global British story. Soon do you think this is setting out the | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
ultimate position and negotiating backwards? I tend to call it a claim | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
against a messy Brexit. Liam Fox was talking along the lines of a clean | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
Brexit, that is having a clean break, having control of | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
sovereignty, migration, he touched on that, but something we can fall | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
back on, trading internationally, and then to do a bespoke deal with | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
the EU. The CBI's position pre-referendum was to remain, so you | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
are making the best of what you would see as a bad deal, but what if | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
the deal? To pick up on a few things, I don't know a single sector | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
of the UK economy, a single business that doesn't think that what this | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
might mean for their business. So I think it's something that touches on | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
all sectors. At this stage, sensible not to get wedded to any one | :15:16. | :15:18. | |
particular model. But I think we need to see a bit more clarity about | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
where we might end up and importantly what kind of | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
transitional arrangements we might have. That matters for passport in, | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
financial services and also... Not just about financial services but | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
Nissan and everybody else. Exactly, and that is a misconception. | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
Passport in matters... Explain how simple that is. If you are a | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
financial service that operates in the UK, pas sporting allows you to | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
operate in 27 other countries in the EU -- in the EU easily and without | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
tariffs. That matters for banks and also car manufacturers. When we buy | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
cars, we often lease them so we get financing alongside it. | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
These different sectors have to make long-term decisions and it is | :16:10. | :16:16. | |
impossible to do that, do you even have a short-term plan? We need to | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
be pragmatic and realistic and uncertainty is the big issue and it | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
is important at some stage to invoke Article 50 and not necessarily give | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
away all our secrets in terms of negotiation... But we need a road | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
map. There is a road map, to position the UK globally and to have | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
a sensible future relationship with the EU, in terms of passporting, I | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
have come from dinner in the city and the Chinese, it was about China | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
and the UK but the issue of passporting was not seen as | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
important but the issue of the city being innovative and developing | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
products... But with other sectors and businesses, where passporting, | :16:57. | :17:04. | |
depending on the model, is important and you must recognise is a | :17:05. | :17:06. | |
Broadchurch not just in the financial sector and you mentioned | :17:07. | :17:08. | |
the automobile sector. The actual tower that would be imposed on the | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
UK outside of the EU, according to the House of Commons library, was | :17:12. | :17:19. | |
2%-3%, the automobile sector is 10%, but Germany sells a phenomenal | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
number of cars to the UK. As Liam Fox pointed out, if we were outside | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
the EU we can cut all of our talents, which helps UK consumers so | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
the competitive balance changes and this is dynamic, this process. One | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
thing we must remember is we look through the course of economic | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
history when people have gone for the big bang approach, it has never | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
worked well for the wider society so wherever we end up we want to have, | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
we want to have a clear partnership between government and business at | :17:51. | :17:53. | |
every step of the way to really understand what the issues are. Are | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
you having these conversations with senior figures? We are starting to | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
but we need to see a step up in gear. You either former, your former | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
adviser, Boris Johnson, you can see there are very many different ways | :18:09. | :18:15. | |
to skin a cat. We are in an unfortunate position because the | :18:16. | :18:17. | |
previous Prime Minister and Chancellor did not do any | :18:18. | :18:20. | |
preparatory work but thankfully the Bank of England was prepared for all | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
eventualities so there is a catch-up process and we need to have a proper | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
discussion amongst not just business and government but different | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
sectors. You explain, Liam Fox seemed to say it was a | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
straightforward thing and at the moment we are as a block in the WTO. | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
We will sadly be an independent member but there is something beyond | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
that? The important message is if we have a clean Brexit, you control the | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
situation, if it is messy, you must depend on 27 other countries. Philip | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
Hammond said in May that there has to be access to the single market? | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
We must recognise we are one of 28 in that negotiating room and I think | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
the idea that we can just do things completely cleanly, this is going to | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
be long-running, I like to think of this as a marathon and not a sprint, | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
we need to have the best minds in the UK for business and from | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
government working through what this means. There is nothing clear about | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
years and years of negotiation. If you invoke Article 50 and decide... | :19:26. | :19:33. | |
Do you want Theresa May, in her speech next week, to give the date | :19:34. | :19:38. | |
for Article 50? As a human being? I am looking at this from an economic | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
perspective and minimising uncertainty is important, at the | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
same time, we need clarity. I would like to be announced next week but | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
at the same time, invoking this in the first half of next year and all | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
of Whitehall working to a deadline at the end of it to leave the EU so | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
against that we always have... With elections in France and Germany? All | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
of these things have to be combined but you can only control in life | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
what you control and we must have clarity of position ourselves. Thank | :20:10. | :20:11. | |
you both very much. The murder of British student | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
Meredith Kercher in Perugia in 2007 became the subject of a media | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
frenzy when her housemate Amanda Knox and her Italian | :20:19. | :20:20. | |
boyfriend were accused The case dragged on, | :20:21. | :20:22. | |
with convictions being appealed and then appealed again, | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
before the pair were eventually A new documentary on Netflix now | :20:26. | :20:27. | |
claims to tell the definitive story of the case, | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
and Secunder Kermani has been to southern Italy to meet one | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
of the key protagonists - Amanda Knox's ex-boyfriend, | :20:36. | :20:37. | |
Raffaele Sollecito. When I was with Amanda, | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
I was so happy. Raffaele Sollecito had only been | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
going out with Amanda Knox for a few days when everything | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
in their lives changed. Meredith Kercher, a British student | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
living in Perugia with Amanda Knox, The media ran wild with claims that | :20:55. | :20:57. | |
Knox had killed Kercher Knox and Sollecito spent nearly four | :20:58. | :21:04. | |
years in jail before Despite that, many in the public | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
still believe they were involved. And they are now the subjects | :21:11. | :21:20. | |
of a new feature-length documentary. I really need to reveal my image | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
before being revealed in my life. So even this interview is something | :21:25. | :21:31. | |
that adds a point of how I fought to reach the people and tell them, | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
hey, I'm one of you. I'm a normal guy who passed | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
through a nightmare. Now I am different because of | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
the nightmare I passed through. The other person who was in that | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
nightmare was Meredith Kercher. And her family have said on a number | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
of occasions that they are not happy with the amount of attention given | :21:55. | :21:57. | |
to you and Amanda Knox. Don't you think it is a little | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
insensitive to produce yet another People never understood | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
the truth about this case. So the victim is Meredith Kercher | :22:05. | :22:11. | |
but there are another two Sollecito and Knox were | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
initially convicted largely It was later ruled to | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
have been contaminated. But this kiss whilst police searched | :22:24. | :22:29. | |
the house became a symbol of what the media described | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
as their strange and suspicious They just repeated that kiss | :22:34. | :22:36. | |
hundreds of times to make it look It was a kiss of comfort | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
because she was telling me that she felt lost, she felt | :22:43. | :22:52. | |
with her family on the other side of the world and she didn't know | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
what to do. Your relationship with Amanda has | :22:57. | :22:58. | |
kind of been characterised in the media as her sometimes | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
as being this femme fatale, this very dominant character, | :23:03. | :23:05. | |
and you being more quiet and just Even after a few days, | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
I was very attached to her because I found her | :23:10. | :23:30. | |
good, very good to me. It would be really stupid | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
to think about that. You mean, to be loyal, | :23:35. | :23:43. | |
to have some misplaced loyalty to someone just | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
because you loved them? Another man, Rudy Guede, | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
was convicted of the murder. But some still claim others | :23:51. | :24:05. | |
were involved, too. Sollecito says legal fees | :24:06. | :24:08. | |
cost his family over $1 million and they still owe | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
hundreds of thousands. He is not ready to | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
let go of the past. They want to forget it, | :24:15. | :24:22. | |
the prosecution want to forget it, So I will bring it until the truth | :24:23. | :24:24. | |
about what they did, What is your relationship | :24:25. | :24:35. | |
with Amanda now? We don't talk too much | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
because we are very distant and we are hearing about our lives, | :24:40. | :24:48. | |
so there is nothing to say You had your entire life turned | :24:49. | :24:51. | |
upside down by something that What, if anything, has that | :24:52. | :25:04. | |
experience taught you? You only have power in your | :25:05. | :25:12. | |
decisions, you can make decisions each time and each decision can | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
bring you more powerful I don't think about | :25:19. | :25:22. | |
my future in my life I just think about here, | :25:23. | :25:36. | |
what I have to do next month. For me, whatever happens after next | :25:37. | :25:48. | |
month, even the world can be destroyed, but I didn't think | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
about next year or anything. Two days after the first | :25:54. | :26:00. | |
Presidential Debate, Donald Trump has apparently decided | :26:01. | :26:02. | |
not to wing the next one, but to prepare - | :26:03. | :26:06. | |
and, taking a leaf out of Jeremy Corbyn's approach to PMQs, | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
he is crowdsourcing ideas in his sparkily titled | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
Second Debate Preparation Survey, which has gone out to | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
millions of supporters. Hillary Clinton's performance | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
earned her a 4% fillip but, with two debates to go, | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
Trump has promised to go harder on her, perhaps | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
with more personal invective. I'm joined from Florida | :26:25. | :26:26. | |
by senior Trump adviser AJ Delgado and from New York | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
by Business Insider's Josh Barro. Good evening to both of you. We will | :26:31. | :26:48. | |
make America great again! We will fix it together! Good evening. Josh | :26:49. | :27:04. | |
Barro, during the debate when they form Miss Universe's name came up, | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
Donald Trump stumbled over that and there was an issue about that. What | :27:10. | :27:18. | |
impact did that have? This was a trap that Hillary Clinton set for | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
Donald Trump and was reporting in advance that among the things she | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
was doing was consulting with a team of psychologists to find ways of | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
needle Donald Trump and draw out self damaging reactions from him. | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
One thing about Donald Trump is when you criticise him he cannot let go | :27:37. | :27:39. | |
of the thing you criticised him for and he has to fight back, even if it | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
means fighting over an issue he would probably be better off not | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
fighting at all. This was Miss Universe 20 years ago, back when he | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
owned the pageant and she put on some weight as Miss Universe and | :27:52. | :27:54. | |
Donald Trump made a number of crude public comments about the weight | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
gain, Collingwood things like Miss Piggy and Miss housekeeping and she | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
brought -- brought television reporters to watch are working hard | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
to lose the weight and the next morning, instead of talking about | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
trade and making America great again, Donald Trump goes around on | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
television talking about how unfair it was to criticise him over this | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
and was terrible working with her when she was Miss Universe and it | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
was a problem she put on so much weight, it is a dumb argument to | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
have when running for president but Hillary Clinton knew that if she | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
brought this up he would not be able to let it go. And here he is on Fox. | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
Talking about this again. TRUMP: She was a Miss Universe | :28:33. | :28:34. | |
contestant and, ultimately, a winner who they had a tremendously | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
difficult time with She was the winner and she gained | :28:38. | :28:40. | |
a massive amount of weight. And we had a real problem | :28:41. | :28:50. | |
with her, so... You are one of the senior advisers, | :28:51. | :29:09. | |
was that about a lack of preparedness to do with this and | :29:10. | :29:14. | |
also an idea that actually would harm him if he repeated the idea | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
that she had gained a lot of weight? I must push back with something that | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
Josh said, he said Mr Trump had publicly made crude remarks calling | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
her Miss Piggy and that is actually untrue, that is simply an allegation | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
and she claims that Mr Trump used those remarks when referring to her | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
in private. Megan Kelly of Fox News Astro this week, are there any | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
witnesses that heard Mr Trump calling you Miss Piggy? And she put | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
an answer, there are no witnesses, this is purely an allegation by a | :29:52. | :29:57. | |
woman who has quite a questionable character, she apparently threatened | :29:58. | :30:00. | |
to kill a federal judge in Venezuela according to a judge their and was | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
accused of driving the getaway car... We cannot really deal with | :30:04. | :30:10. | |
that. I watched the clip on American television and she did not say | :30:11. | :30:15. | |
whether or not she was called Miss Piggy but what Megan Kelly asked was | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
about the eating disorder that she had and the subsequent weight gain. | :30:21. | :30:22. | |
You said, as a result of what he said to you, | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
you developed an eating disorder, bulimia and anorexia. | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
But you had said publicly at the time | :30:30. | :30:32. | |
that you suffered from both of those eating disorders prior to the Miss | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
No, no, never, never prior to the Miss | :30:38. | :30:43. | |
I never had any problem before Miss Universe. | :30:44. | :30:48. | |
Megan Kelly went on to show her the Washington Post in which she had | :30:49. | :31:10. | |
talked about having a eating disorder before the contest. What | :31:11. | :31:19. | |
about that strategy about, is there not a duty of care in the Clinton | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
campaign about bouncing her into the middle of the campaign? She has been | :31:24. | :31:29. | |
very willing to be out there and assertive and she has been talking | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
before this debate. I don't think that she has been drawn into this | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
unwillingly. Even AJ is getting drawn into the track of litigating | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
this story. There is no tape of him calling her Miss picky but there is | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
take of him saying things like, this is a person who really likes to eat. | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
There is a long record of Donald Trump talking in a crude way about | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
the physical appearance of women not just in the context of beauty | :31:56. | :32:02. | |
pageants, including one of his opponents in the Republican primary. | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
He said she had an ugly face. He said, look at that face. That was | :32:07. | :32:14. | |
the grimace she had on her face. The fight we are having to have is, did | :32:15. | :32:19. | |
because her eating disorder or did she already had it? We shouldn't be | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
litigating this. That's what I'm saying. It all goes to Donald | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
Trump's terrible character. UR advising Donald Trump. We know he | :32:31. | :32:38. | |
will perhaps have different tactics for the next debate and he might go | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
after Hillary Clinton ardour. Would you advise him to go after her | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
personal issues, getting her to talk about Bill Clinton's infidelities | :32:48. | :32:53. | |
and her supposed enabling of it? No, I do believe that we should focus on | :32:54. | :33:00. | |
the records. I think that's what the public wants. Speaking about his | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
record on women, this is somebody who elevated to top positions in his | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
company women, both as chief lawyer and cheap contract at Trump towers. | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
I would love to see them focus on his record on a number of issues, | :33:14. | :33:22. | |
and leave out the personal matters. How should Hillary play this? Next | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
one is a town hall. They don't know what is coming at them. She has to | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
make sure she doesn't look too prepared. I don't think she looks | :33:32. | :33:35. | |
too prepared in the first debate. I thought it went well for her to be | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
prepared. The Callum Hall format is favourable to Hillary Clinton. She | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
has experience of it. -- town hall format. The events where she does | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
best are those where she interacts directly with voters and be seen | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
listening to them. She started her political career with a listening | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
tour of upstate New York which was mocked and sub -- until it worked. | :33:57. | :34:04. | |
She had a perfect strategy in the first debate. It doesn't sound from | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
press reports like Donald Trump has decided to prepare an effective way | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
for this debate and I think he will come in angry about the way the | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
first debate was received, likely to try and litigate the items from the | :34:17. | :34:21. | |
first debate again and I think we will get my head over personal | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
things. He congratulated himself for not bringing up your Clinton's | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
marital infidelities, but when you say, look how great it was that I | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
didn't talk about it and then did he said was true then you sent talking | :34:34. | :34:37. | |
point out saying, how to discuss this, you don't get any credit for | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
not bringing up. Those talking points that were leaked were not | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
written by Mr Trump. It isn't him sending out talking points. They are | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
from the campaign, right? So Mr Trump doesn't control his campaign? | :34:56. | :35:03. | |
He isn't asking us personally to go after Hillary Clinton and her | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
husband's infidelities, no. Come on! This idea that the actions of one's | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
campaign staff doesn't count as actions under half of one. That is a | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
new one. Thank you. Big Brother Is Watching | :35:17. | :35:17. | |
You entered the lexicon after the publication | :35:18. | :35:19. | |
of Nineteen Eighty-Four, for state surveillance, | :35:20. | :35:21. | |
and it was about one-way traffic. But would it be more | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
accurate to change that now We're all at it - cyclists, | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
snooping parents, police officers. Here's our man in a headcam, | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
our technology editor When CCTV made an willing reality | :35:32. | :35:45. | |
stars of us all, the power was all in the hands of the people who owned | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
the cameras. Shops, councils, government and the police. | :35:51. | :35:55. | |
Technology created a panopticon for us all to live in, at least in | :35:56. | :36:02. | |
public. But, as Jeremy Bentham, the design of the panopticon prison, | :36:03. | :36:04. | |
where the inmates are in sight of God at all times, new, it isn't | :36:05. | :36:12. | |
necessary for anybody to be watching to have an effect. -- insight of | :36:13. | :36:14. | |
guards. In Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, | :36:15. | :36:15. | |
Big Brother controlled minds with the mere possibility | :36:16. | :36:17. | |
of being watched. "You had to live - did live, | :36:18. | :36:18. | |
from habit that became instinct - in the assumption that every sound | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, | :36:23. | :36:24. | |
every movement scrutinised." As the French philosopher | :36:25. | :36:26. | |
Michel Foucault noted... "Surveillance is permanent | :36:27. | :36:28. | |
in its effects, even if it is However, the evidence of now decades | :36:29. | :36:44. | |
worth of mass surveillance doesn't appear to back up this theory. We | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
presumed some type of magic would happen. If you put magic -- cameras | :36:51. | :36:58. | |
on posts that crime would disappear. It didn't happen and we have cameras | :36:59. | :37:02. | |
everywhere that cost vast amounts of money and we don't see the necessary | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
drop in crime. Two technologies, though, that ended the monopoly of | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
surveillance. The first, the smartphone, putting the power to | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
record reality in more or less every personal pocket. The other is social | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
media, allowing that footage to go global, even without convincing | :37:23. | :37:24. | |
traditional broadcasters it is worth airing. One academic has called this | :37:25. | :37:36. | |
not surveillance, meaning from above, but sousveillance, from | :37:37. | :37:39. | |
below. We have seen lots of bees from police shootings in the US, | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
through to unjustifiably heavy-handed reactions from police. | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
Without the footage, they would never have been believed. Just last | :37:50. | :37:57. | |
week, a London driver recorded this. Get out of the car! He says it was a | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
case of mistaken identity. The officer involved is now on | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
restricted duties. Look what you are doing to my car. I bought a license | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
and insurance. The police have responded with more surveillance, | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
body cameras, recording incidents from their point of view. They have | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
the added twist of a screen at the front so the person being filmed by | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
the officer can see their own image, so now everyone's behaviour is being | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
changed, the public filming the police and the police filming the | :38:34. | :38:36. | |
public. According to a study published today, body cameras have | :38:37. | :38:43. | |
reduced complaints against the police by 93%, but cameras also | :38:44. | :38:46. | |
allow members of the public to become crime-fighters. Some people | :38:47. | :38:54. | |
call me the equaliser. A vigilante cyclist doing what he says the | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
police won't. I have called road rage is, mobile phone users... .Txt | :39:00. | :39:07. | |
and drive when you have a kid in your car. | :39:08. | :39:09. | |
It is the illusion that somehow we're doing something by merely | :39:10. | :39:11. | |
recording and then hoping to post that on a social network | :39:12. | :39:14. | |
A case of pursuing justice against an abuse by an authority, | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
And the simple act of the recording is merely the first step. | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
And again, what we need are the systems within | :39:25. | :39:26. | |
We need the oversight systems to make sure that | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
We are rapidly moving towards a world where everyone is recording | :39:31. | :39:48. | |
everything all the time. Does it make for a more safe or even more | :39:49. | :39:50. | |
polite society or if it just another source of stress and annoyance? | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
That's almost it for tonight, but before we go... | :39:55. | :39:56. | |
Election debates are usually fertile territory for budding | :39:57. | :39:58. | |
and the Presidential Debates in the US this week were no exception. | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
We leave you tonight with the brainchild of the YouTube | :40:03. | :40:04. | |
Instantly forgettable, or a new dance craze for the nation? | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
It's the Hillary Clinton Shimmy Song. | :40:10. | :40:12. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, HRC. | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, HRC. | :40:19. | :40:40. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, Hillary. | :40:41. | :40:42. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, HRC. | :40:43. | :40:44. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, Hillary. | :40:45. | :40:46. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, HRC. | :40:47. | :40:48. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, Hillary. | :40:49. | :40:49. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, HRC. | :40:50. | :40:52. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, Hillary. | :40:53. | :40:53. | |
# Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy. | :40:54. | :40:59. |