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Once under cover, now under lock and key. | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Fake Sheikh Mazher Mahmood is jailed for 15 months for tampering | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
with evidence in the collapsed drugs trial of pop star Tulisa. | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
As questions are raised about more trials where he provided evidence, | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
Newsnight speaks to victims of some of his other stings. | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
I can't describe what it was like the moment that the judge said | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
We'll ask one of the tabloids' best known victims if the press | :00:27. | :00:40. | |
She was Pakistan's first social media superstar, | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
murdered by her brother in a so-called honour killing. | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
The parents of Qandeel Baloch speak out, as they take their own son | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
And she once said that she "can't stand the bad lighting, | :00:53. | :01:08. | |
tinny voices, snarky scripts and fake cool of today's TV shows." | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
Camille Paglia joins us to talk feminism and politics. | :01:13. | :01:25. | |
The Sun's leader column today was as moralistic | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
"Reporters are paid to find stories and check facts. | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
They don't always get it right, but they take pride in trying." | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
Somewhat strange, then, that when it came off the presses | :01:38. | :01:39. | |
this morning their Sunday edition's star reporter, | :01:40. | :01:43. | |
a man already proven to manufacture stories and invent his own facts, | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
Mazher Mahmood, the so-called Fake Sheikh of tabloid lore, | :01:47. | :01:53. | |
is in jail tonight after receiving a 15 month sentence for conspiring | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
to pervert the course of justice in a case involving the singer | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
That worthy editorial homily, by the way, referred to tweets | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
about refugees posted yesterday by Gary Lineker and | :02:06. | :02:08. | |
The newspaper found no room at all for Mahmood's misdemeanours. | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
John Sweeney spent the day with four victims of his stings | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
who were at the Old Bailey to see that sentence handed down. | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
Here is the Fake Sheikh in his pomp, working for the News of the World. | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
And here he is bringing down London's Burning star John Alford. | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
The actor served nine months for supplying drugs. | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
Today, the boot was on the other foot. | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
Mazher Mahmood got 15 months for perverting | :02:40. | :02:40. | |
the course of justice, when yet another showbiz sting, | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
this time against pop star Tulisa, went wrong. | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
Mazher Mahmood was once one of Britain's most | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
And it's time to his victims to have their say. | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
These people have one thing in common. | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
Their lives were wrecked by the Fake Sheikh. | :03:04. | :03:11. | |
Stage hypnotist Jonathan Royle says he was stitched up by Mahmood | :03:12. | :03:13. | |
when he got six months in prison for giving the reporter fake coins. | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
From the moment that the judge said, "Send him down". | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. | :03:25. | :03:41. | |
I was put on suicide watch in Strangeways. | :03:42. | :03:48. | |
I slept for weeks in prison, fully clothed, scared that | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
People have now started to see that what I've been saying | :03:52. | :03:59. | |
for the past 18 and a half years actually is true. | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
Another scalp, former world champion boxer Herbie Hyde, | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
who got 22 months for supplying drugs. | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
Mahmood had so much evidence, so much.... | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
Like he said I sent him a text saying that I... | :04:16. | :04:26. | |
I wrote him a text saying I've got the cocaine, and the match fixing. | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
I thought, I might as well kill myself. | :04:30. | :04:42. | |
If I'm going to put this thing to my family. | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
What effect did Mazher Mahmood's journalism have on you? | :04:46. | :05:02. | |
Basically because of the story that went out about me, | :05:03. | :05:04. | |
It wasn't just a job, it was a career. | :05:05. | :05:12. | |
And a career that I think I would have done very | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
well at and I would have lasted quite a long time. | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
A fourth scalp, John Alford, whose career ended in 1999 | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
It was very convenient for the police. | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
The police and criminal evidence act was put in place to protect us | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
They had a very cosy relationship with the press because | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
they could use lies, trickery and deceit to get a story, | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
Very convenient for them, very damning for us. | :05:42. | :05:50. | |
Their solicitor is calling for an inquiry and she is damning | :05:51. | :05:52. | |
about the conduct of the Metropolitan Police. | :05:53. | :05:54. | |
And what was going on was very heavy. | :05:55. | :06:05. | |
I hope finally people will listen to what these people have been | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
I will stress that not one of the convictions | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
Today the company said they would fight those cases | :06:16. | :06:29. | |
and that Mazher Mahmood had led scores of successful investigations | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
during his 25 year career with the company, which had | :06:33. | :06:34. | |
led to the exposure of criminality and wrongdoing. | :06:35. | :06:41. | |
For the likes of us and the other people that he stung, | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
I certainly don't feel justice has been done. | :06:45. | :06:46. | |
As far as not wishing it on my worst enemy, | :06:47. | :06:55. | |
I am more than happy that Mazher Mahmood is now sat | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
there quaking in his boots wondering what is going to happen | :06:59. | :07:00. | |
I would like to be a fly on the wall. | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
The question now is, why did the authorities let these | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
Well, joining us now via Skype from France is Max Mosley, | :07:09. | :07:17. | |
who was himself the subject of a sting by the News of the World. | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
Since then he has campaigned for stronger regulation | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
The somewhat laughable defence is now at the beginning of the phone | :07:25. | :07:37. | |
hacking scandal was that it was one rogue reporter. Do you think that | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
description might apply in this case? Very much so. The problem is | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
that News group newspapers which is the son, the News of the World, they | :07:47. | :07:56. | |
are a criminal enterprise and the number one criminal in that group is | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
Mazher Mahmood and has been shown to be exactly what he is. What is | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
essential from all of this is that we have the second part of the lab | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
is an enquiry, to look at the relationship between the police and | :08:12. | :08:20. | |
the press. And particularly News Group newspapers. The third or | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
fourth investigation into the Daniel Morgan murder enquiry was underway, | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
a Chief Superintendent at Scotland Yard was put under surveillance by | :08:33. | :08:39. | |
the News of the World. It is extraordinary that in a civilised | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
society there was no comeback, no investigation into that. Scotland | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
Yard just did nothing. Now the time has come when this has got to shop | :08:48. | :08:55. | |
and we've got to expose those elements in the police who are | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
responsible for the corrupt system. You will be aware that Leveson Two | :09:00. | :09:08. | |
has been cancelled, are you suggesting it might be revived by | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
this case? It has to be. We either accept we have a corrupt police | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
force with a corrupt relationship with a major newspaper group, we | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
either except that and say that's OK and is fine, or we have Leveson Two | :09:22. | :09:30. | |
and root out the elements responsible for this. Personally I | :09:31. | :09:32. | |
don't want to live in a country where that sort of thing can go on, | :09:33. | :09:39. | |
and I most people do. You've spent just shy of ?4 million of your own | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
money on bankrolling an organisation new hope would police this | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
relationship. What gives you the right to do that? First of all that | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
is not to police the relationship between the police and the press... | :09:53. | :09:59. | |
To police the behaviour of the press. Exactly. What we are talking | :10:00. | :10:07. | |
about at the moment is the corrupt relationship between the press and | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
the police and that's a serious matter. A separate question is | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
whether the press should have a regulator that actually looks at | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
what they do, an independent regulator. I feel that we need such | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
a regulator, we particularly need one because if somebody has a case | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
against the press at the moment, unless they are a millionaire they | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
can't bring it. Unless you can risk ?1 million you can't bring a case. | :10:34. | :10:42. | |
The first Leveson idea was that if you have a complaint against the | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
press you go to a cheap, inexpensive arbitration and get settled. If the | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
press want to go to expensive High Court proceedings they pay. What the | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
press are doing is saying, we've got to pay both sides of the case. But | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
what they are leaving and if that that is only if they don't agree to | :11:04. | :11:10. | |
cheap arbitration. Access to justice is absolutely vital. 99% of the | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
population can't afford to go to the High Court. When I said to Leveson | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
in the enquiry... We are very short of time. I want to ask you one more | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
question. It's fair to say that publishers haven't beaten a path to | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
your door. Publishers like News Group newspapers... Or anyone else | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
really. The last thing they want or The Daily Mail, is a proper | :11:40. | :11:42. | |
regulator. They will do everything in their power to make sure there | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
isn't one. And a half of the rest of the population I will do my best to | :11:48. | :11:57. | |
see there is one. You don't think it -- Ipso is fit for purpose? It is | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
under the thumb of the large newspapers which comes down to four | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
billionaires. All of them tax exiles living outside the UK and control | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
70% of the British press. Somebody calls that a free press, it's | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
laughable. You think it should be regulated by an organisation | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
bankrolled by another wealthy individual? People have paid for | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
things the public need for generations. That's a perfectly | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
legitimate thing. The difference is I have no control whatsoever over | :12:32. | :12:38. | |
the proposed new regulator. All I do is provide the money. That is | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
something the public need. It's a public service, that's why its | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
charitable and that's why it needs doing. Thank you. | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
Theresa May has pronounced herself optimistic that she will get | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
Her French and German counterparts have warned that a hard Brexit | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
will involve commensurately hard negotiations and the former European | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
commissioner Jonathan Hill has revealed that many senior EU figures | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
still don't believe that Britain will go through with it at all. | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
There have even been reports today that EU officials may lobby to have | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
So it's fair to say that there's no more consensus abroad | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
about what Brexit might end up looking like than there is at home. | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
Newsnight's Diplomatic Editor, Mark Urban, has been surveying | :13:22. | :13:23. | |
the scene on the side of the negotiating table | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
where the 27 countries staying in will be sitting opposite the one | :13:28. | :13:29. | |
The Prime Minister's been very clear. | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
From the moment she arrived at the summit ... | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
Yes, that seems straightforward enough. | :13:40. | :13:48. | |
The British government's policy is to leave the EU by activating | :13:49. | :13:51. | |
So why do many people in Brussels not believe it? | :13:52. | :13:59. | |
There is a surprisingly widely held view that Britain might | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
still decide to stay in, and I think that partly explains why | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
previously Donald Tusk has talked about "it's hard Brexit or no exit". | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
And it's not just the commission or Brussels civil service. | :14:14. | :14:15. | |
It's Germany, critically, that has apparently adopted a policy | :14:16. | :14:17. | |
that Britain needs to be given as much time to change | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
The worst thing that can happen is Brexit. | :14:21. | :14:28. | |
Now after the referendum, which is not legally binding, | :14:29. | :14:36. | |
I think there is no sense, really no sense, in urging | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
the Britons to accomplish what is considered by all of us | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
to be the worst outcome we can think of. | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
In Whitehall, and the country more widely, people care | :14:50. | :14:51. | |
But that's not the case in many of the other | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
And that's why the issue has been so far down this week's summit | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
agenda, and why many of those nations are ready to fall in behind | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
a German lead, that says play it long, wait for the British | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
to develop buyers remorse, particularly if their | :15:14. | :15:15. | |
And earlier this week, with the experience of sterling's | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
fall still fresh in people's minds, the EU ratcheted up the pressure | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
another notch, offering the UK a chance it seemed | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
We will conduct the negotiations in good faith. | :15:30. | :15:42. | |
Minimise the cost and seek the best possible deal for all. | :15:43. | :15:52. | |
But as I have said before, I am afraid that no such outcome exists | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
Of course, it is and can only be for the UK to assess the outcome | :15:57. | :16:06. | |
of the negotiations, and determine if Brexit | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
That last phrase suggests the UK can abandon Brexit once Theresa May has | :16:11. | :16:19. | |
seen what her fellow leaders are prepared to offer. | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
It undermines British government legal arguments that | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
Article 50 is irrevocable, and may offer another two | :16:28. | :16:29. | |
years for Downing Street to change its mind. | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
And all the time, EU leaders will be using their leverage. | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
For example, by closing the UK out of many discussions, | :16:40. | :16:41. | |
something the Prime Minister complained about today. | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
We will be, as I've said, in the first quarter of next year | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
There will be a process for the 27 to consider how they are going | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
But, we will continue to play our role, as I have done, | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
I can assure you that I haven't been backward | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
So ended a summit and a week, where the 27 continued | :17:05. | :17:10. | |
in their refusal to have any pre-negotiation of Brexit, | :17:11. | :17:19. | |
and for good measure threatened to keep growing uncertainty | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
about the UK and its economy well beyond the activation of Article 50. | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
Some breaking news tonight concerning another EU deal. Mark | :17:28. | :17:35. | |
urban is here now. What happened? Essentially this appears to be a | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
breakdown of trade talks with Canada. It's a long saga. The talks | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
themselves went on for six, nearly seven years. For the past year or | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
so, the EU has been trying to ratify an agreement with Canada, this trade | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
agreement. Talks have broken down and the Canadian Trade Minister | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
tonight said the EU is incapable of doing this deal, even with a country | :18:01. | :18:07. | |
like ours of very similar values. It's a torturous saga and frankly it | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
is straight out of the Leave campaign playbook. In the sense that | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
it is a dramatic illustration of how convoluted, hidebound and ultimately | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
frustrating it is to try and do free trade through an EU framework. | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
Whether they are able to revive this, we can't yet say, but the | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
Canadians for the moment are saying they've given up, thwarted at the | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
last minute by a regional Belgian that wouldn't agree to it. | :18:39. | :18:47. | |
Conversely, any implications of a UK deal with the EU? It's like the most | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
extraordinary diplomatic conundrum because on the one hand you can say, | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
oh Lord, deliver us from this sort of process that Canada has been put | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
through, but for the UK to get through to that point where it can | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
cut its own free-trade deals with countries like the UK and Canada | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
wherever, it's going to have to go through a very similar process. In | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
that sense, it's a bit of a nightmarish harbinger about how | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
complex things might be if all 27 of the other states choose to use their | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
own points of pressure. It might be Spain on Gibraltar, it might be | :19:25. | :19:30. | |
Remainiac on workers' rights in Britain, all these points they might | :19:31. | :19:32. | |
have two hold-up agreement of any deal when it is finally reached. | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
Happy days diplomatic editors, though! Thank you very much, Mark | :19:38. | :19:39. | |
Urban. In life, she was Pakistan's first | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
social media superstar. Provocative selfies and film clips | :19:44. | :19:45. | |
garnered comparisons with Kim Kardashian and propelled | :19:46. | :19:47. | |
Qandeel Baloch to a comparable level In death, she seems set to prove | :19:48. | :19:49. | |
an even more influential figure. Murdered by her own brother | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
in a so-called honour crime after her flirting on camera | :19:56. | :19:58. | |
with a prominent cleric caused a media furore, | :19:59. | :20:00. | |
the case has prompted unprecedented scrutiny of the stone age patriarchy | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
that sees a thousand Pakistani women die in similar | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
circumstances every year. And earlier this month, | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
the country's Parliament passed a law to close a loophole that had | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
allowed the perpetrators And she became Pakistan's | :20:16. | :20:17. | |
social media superstar. Her highly provocative videos | :20:18. | :20:37. | |
shocked many in Pakistan, On the 15th July 2016, | :20:38. | :20:52. | |
Qandeel was killed by her brother, because in his eyes, | :20:53. | :21:02. | |
she had brought shame on the family. It was on one chat show that she met | :21:03. | :21:12. | |
Mufti Qavi, a celebrity cleric. Mufti Qavi suggested that they meet | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
next time he was in Karachi. A few weeks later, during the holy | :21:17. | :21:29. | |
month of Ramadan, Qandeel Baloch met It was during this meeting | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
that she took a number of selfies. In one, she was wearing | :21:33. | :21:43. | |
the Mufti's hat. This picture in particular caused | :21:44. | :21:45. | |
a media storm. Soon she and the Mufti | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
were everywhere. In the fallout, Mufti Qavi | :21:51. | :21:59. | |
was suspended from his job For her brother Waseem, the media | :22:00. | :22:01. | |
intrusion was the final straw. But why were those selfies | :22:02. | :22:23. | |
with Mufti Qavi so controversial? A month after the selfies appeared, | :22:24. | :22:45. | |
Qandeel was killed. How much did the photos with | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
Mufti Qavi contribute to her murder? I went to meet him at his | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
madrasah in Multan. Mufti Qavi comes from a family | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
of clerics who have lived To the locals, he is a revered | :22:59. | :23:06. | |
and respected religious scholar. 1,000 women die each year | :23:07. | :23:52. | |
from honour crimes in Pakistan. A bill being debated in Parliament | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
is looking to put an end to honour It will take away the right | :23:59. | :24:01. | |
of a family to forgive the killer. I wanted to talk to Qandeel's father | :24:02. | :24:32. | |
about Atia's concerns. He hasn't visited his son Waseem | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
in jail, but some relatives have. In a nondescript patch of land | :24:40. | :25:30. | |
lies Qandeel's body, The Anti-Honour Crime Bill was | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
passed on the 6th of October 2016. The hope is that this law will stop | :25:36. | :26:27. | |
those who kill for honour And you can watch the full Our World | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
documentary "The Killing of Qandeel", by Hani Taha, | :26:31. | :26:39. | |
on the News Channel this Saturday and Sunday at 9.30pm, | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
as well as on the iPlayer. I'm joined now by the author and | :26:45. | :26:59. | |
renowned feminist, Camille Paglia. She's in town for a Battle of Ideas | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
event in London tomorrow that will examine the myriad facets | :27:03. | :27:05. | |
of modern feminism. Including the question of what women | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
should be fighting for in 2016. When you watch a film like that from | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
Pakistan and then see that we have another female Prime Minister and we | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
may be about to get a female president, is the answer to that | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
question not dependent on where those women live? Well, I've | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
constantly said that that we real focus of contemporary feminism | :27:27. | :27:29. | |
should be on the lack of civil rights and atrocities committed | :27:30. | :27:33. | |
against women in the third World and not an excessive sensationalising of | :27:34. | :27:41. | |
problems that bourgeoise girls are having in dating on college | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
campuses. There has been a severe disproportion and 425 years I've | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
been calling for young women to stand up for themselves and show | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
responsibility for the choices they make in their social lives and for | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
colleges and universities to stop intruding into social lives of | :27:57. | :28:01. | |
students. I mean, the question then of what women should be fighting for | :28:02. | :28:05. | |
is, they should just be fighting more? I believe that the proper | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
definition of feminism should be a quality of opportunity in the public | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
realm. This is what I have constantly said, that women should | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
demand that barriers to their advance in careers like politics and | :28:21. | :28:26. | |
must be removed. However, the private realm is far more complex. | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
This is where I oppose intrusions by the state or by bureaucratic | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
administrators on college campuses who have now, in effect, usurped the | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
educational mission and destroyed it in the US, and I'm very unhappy that | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
those mad trends seem to be leaking over into Britain. I see. I hope | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
that doesn't constitute a spoiler for tomorrow's event! Let me ask | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
you, is Hilary Clinton a good feminist? Alas, Hilary Clinton's | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
prominence is due to her atavistic attachment to a man. Hillary has | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
accomplished very little in her career although she has had the | :29:09. | :29:13. | |
opportunity to do so. I would have hoped that the first woman president | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
would have achieved it on her own talents and merits and not because | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
she has lived under the shadow of a very charismatic politician, for | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
whom I voted twice. I wasn't really a fan of Hilary Clinton but I have | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
becomes India Lee disillusioned. She should -- she should not surely | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
exempt herself from seeking office purely because she has been married | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
to a man who has achieved that? I'm afraid she has written on Bill | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
Clinton's coat-tails in her career and has accomplished exactly | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
nothing. The destabilisation of North Africa is one of them... I | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
feel she is one of the most incompetent and corrupt politicians | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
in my lifetime in America. I hesitate to ask the next question | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
commercially she is a better feminist than Donald Trump? Alas... | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
Is she a better logician than Donald Trump? | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
-- is she a better politician than Donald Trump? Yes! So she is the | :30:13. | :30:20. | |
second worst ever? She has enormous staff who feed her lines come | :30:21. | :30:23. | |
everything she does is poll tested and so on. I feel that the senator | :30:24. | :30:29. | |
from California should have been the first woman president. That is a | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
woman of real habitats. She still might be. The trouble is that people | :30:34. | :30:39. | |
running for president in the United States must subject themselves to | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
one or two years... Their whole lives are consumed with money and | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
trying to appeal to an enormous country. Even one of our states is | :30:51. | :30:56. | |
as big as Europe... If we had the system you had where a person could | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
rise to the top of the party and then that person takes over as | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
president, we would have had a woman president long before this. | :31:05. | :31:07. | |
You wrote about Donald Trump and described him as a master of the | :31:08. | :31:13. | |
unexpected. You seem to centre the two some of its charms. Has he got | :31:14. | :31:18. | |
any left? Well, if Donald Trump wins, it is because of a populist | :31:19. | :31:23. | |
fatigue with a tyranny by a political structure in Washington | :31:24. | :31:28. | |
which essentially is a unique party, there is very different between -- | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
very little difference between Democrats and Republicans. -- a | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
uni-party. Pair is a relationship with the mainstream media where it | :31:40. | :31:43. | |
is possible for people to make fortunes... I don't think it's | :31:44. | :31:48. | |
understood in Europe how corrupt our mainstream media is. If Trump wins, | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
it will shatter the power structure of two parties and the mainstream | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
media. And we barely scratched the surface. That is indeed always got | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
time for. Good night. -- that's all we've got time for. | :32:02. | :32:12. | |
Good evening. The weekend is fast approaching. Let's | :32:13. | :32:13. |