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Once under cover, now under lock and key.

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Fake Sheikh Mazher Mahmood is jailed for 15 months for tampering

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with evidence in the collapsed drugs trial of pop star Tulisa.

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As questions are raised about more trials where he provided evidence,

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Newsnight speaks to victims of some of his other stings.

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I can't describe what it was like the moment that the judge said

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We'll ask one of the tabloids' best known victims if the press

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She was Pakistan's first social media superstar,

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murdered by her brother in a so-called honour killing.

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The parents of Qandeel Baloch speak out, as they take their own son

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And she once said that she "can't stand the bad lighting,

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tinny voices, snarky scripts and fake cool of today's TV shows."

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Camille Paglia joins us to talk feminism and politics.

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The Sun's leader column today was as moralistic

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"Reporters are paid to find stories and check facts.

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They don't always get it right, but they take pride in trying."

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Somewhat strange, then, that when it came off the presses

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this morning their Sunday edition's star reporter,

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a man already proven to manufacture stories and invent his own facts,

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Mazher Mahmood, the so-called Fake Sheikh of tabloid lore,

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is in jail tonight after receiving a 15 month sentence for conspiring

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to pervert the course of justice in a case involving the singer

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That worthy editorial homily, by the way, referred to tweets

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about refugees posted yesterday by Gary Lineker and

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The newspaper found no room at all for Mahmood's misdemeanours.

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John Sweeney spent the day with four victims of his stings

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who were at the Old Bailey to see that sentence handed down.

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Here is the Fake Sheikh in his pomp, working for the News of the World.

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And here he is bringing down London's Burning star John Alford.

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The actor served nine months for supplying drugs.

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Today, the boot was on the other foot.

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Mazher Mahmood got 15 months for perverting

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the course of justice, when yet another showbiz sting,

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this time against pop star Tulisa, went wrong.

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Mazher Mahmood was once one of Britain's most

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And it's time to his victims to have their say.

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These people have one thing in common.

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Their lives were wrecked by the Fake Sheikh.

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Stage hypnotist Jonathan Royle says he was stitched up by Mahmood

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when he got six months in prison for giving the reporter fake coins.

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From the moment that the judge said, "Send him down".

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I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.

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I was put on suicide watch in Strangeways.

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I slept for weeks in prison, fully clothed, scared that

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People have now started to see that what I've been saying

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for the past 18 and a half years actually is true.

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Another scalp, former world champion boxer Herbie Hyde,

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who got 22 months for supplying drugs.

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Mahmood had so much evidence, so much....

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Like he said I sent him a text saying that I...

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I wrote him a text saying I've got the cocaine, and the match fixing.

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I thought, I might as well kill myself.

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If I'm going to put this thing to my family.

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What effect did Mazher Mahmood's journalism have on you?

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Basically because of the story that went out about me,

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It wasn't just a job, it was a career.

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And a career that I think I would have done very

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well at and I would have lasted quite a long time.

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A fourth scalp, John Alford, whose career ended in 1999

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It was very convenient for the police.

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The police and criminal evidence act was put in place to protect us

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They had a very cosy relationship with the press because

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they could use lies, trickery and deceit to get a story,

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Very convenient for them, very damning for us.

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Their solicitor is calling for an inquiry and she is damning

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about the conduct of the Metropolitan Police.

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And what was going on was very heavy.

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I hope finally people will listen to what these people have been

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I will stress that not one of the convictions

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Today the company said they would fight those cases

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and that Mazher Mahmood had led scores of successful investigations

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during his 25 year career with the company, which had

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led to the exposure of criminality and wrongdoing.

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For the likes of us and the other people that he stung,

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I certainly don't feel justice has been done.

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As far as not wishing it on my worst enemy,

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I am more than happy that Mazher Mahmood is now sat

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there quaking in his boots wondering what is going to happen

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I would like to be a fly on the wall.

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The question now is, why did the authorities let these

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Well, joining us now via Skype from France is Max Mosley,

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who was himself the subject of a sting by the News of the World.

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Since then he has campaigned for stronger regulation

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The somewhat laughable defence is now at the beginning of the phone

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hacking scandal was that it was one rogue reporter. Do you think that

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description might apply in this case? Very much so. The problem is

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that News group newspapers which is the son, the News of the World, they

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are a criminal enterprise and the number one criminal in that group is

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Mazher Mahmood and has been shown to be exactly what he is. What is

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essential from all of this is that we have the second part of the lab

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is an enquiry, to look at the relationship between the police and

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the press. And particularly News Group newspapers. The third or

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fourth investigation into the Daniel Morgan murder enquiry was underway,

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a Chief Superintendent at Scotland Yard was put under surveillance by

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the News of the World. It is extraordinary that in a civilised

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society there was no comeback, no investigation into that. Scotland

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Yard just did nothing. Now the time has come when this has got to shop

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and we've got to expose those elements in the police who are

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responsible for the corrupt system. You will be aware that Leveson Two

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has been cancelled, are you suggesting it might be revived by

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this case? It has to be. We either accept we have a corrupt police

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force with a corrupt relationship with a major newspaper group, we

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either except that and say that's OK and is fine, or we have Leveson Two

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and root out the elements responsible for this. Personally I

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don't want to live in a country where that sort of thing can go on,

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and I most people do. You've spent just shy of ?4 million of your own

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money on bankrolling an organisation new hope would police this

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relationship. What gives you the right to do that? First of all that

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is not to police the relationship between the police and the press...

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To police the behaviour of the press. Exactly. What we are talking

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about at the moment is the corrupt relationship between the press and

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the police and that's a serious matter. A separate question is

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whether the press should have a regulator that actually looks at

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what they do, an independent regulator. I feel that we need such

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a regulator, we particularly need one because if somebody has a case

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against the press at the moment, unless they are a millionaire they

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can't bring it. Unless you can risk ?1 million you can't bring a case.

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The first Leveson idea was that if you have a complaint against the

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press you go to a cheap, inexpensive arbitration and get settled. If the

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press want to go to expensive High Court proceedings they pay. What the

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press are doing is saying, we've got to pay both sides of the case. But

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what they are leaving and if that that is only if they don't agree to

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cheap arbitration. Access to justice is absolutely vital. 99% of the

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population can't afford to go to the High Court. When I said to Leveson

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in the enquiry... We are very short of time. I want to ask you one more

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question. It's fair to say that publishers haven't beaten a path to

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your door. Publishers like News Group newspapers... Or anyone else

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really. The last thing they want or The Daily Mail, is a proper

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regulator. They will do everything in their power to make sure there

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isn't one. And a half of the rest of the population I will do my best to

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see there is one. You don't think it -- Ipso is fit for purpose? It is

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under the thumb of the large newspapers which comes down to four

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billionaires. All of them tax exiles living outside the UK and control

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70% of the British press. Somebody calls that a free press, it's

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laughable. You think it should be regulated by an organisation

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bankrolled by another wealthy individual? People have paid for

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things the public need for generations. That's a perfectly

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legitimate thing. The difference is I have no control whatsoever over

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the proposed new regulator. All I do is provide the money. That is

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something the public need. It's a public service, that's why its

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charitable and that's why it needs doing. Thank you.

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Theresa May has pronounced herself optimistic that she will get

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Her French and German counterparts have warned that a hard Brexit

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will involve commensurately hard negotiations and the former European

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commissioner Jonathan Hill has revealed that many senior EU figures

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still don't believe that Britain will go through with it at all.

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There have even been reports today that EU officials may lobby to have

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So it's fair to say that there's no more consensus abroad

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about what Brexit might end up looking like than there is at home.

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Newsnight's Diplomatic Editor, Mark Urban, has been surveying

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the scene on the side of the negotiating table

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where the 27 countries staying in will be sitting opposite the one

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The Prime Minister's been very clear.

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From the moment she arrived at the summit ...

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Yes, that seems straightforward enough.

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The British government's policy is to leave the EU by activating

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So why do many people in Brussels not believe it?

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There is a surprisingly widely held view that Britain might

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still decide to stay in, and I think that partly explains why

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previously Donald Tusk has talked about "it's hard Brexit or no exit".

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And it's not just the commission or Brussels civil service.

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It's Germany, critically, that has apparently adopted a policy

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that Britain needs to be given as much time to change

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The worst thing that can happen is Brexit.

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Now after the referendum, which is not legally binding,

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I think there is no sense, really no sense, in urging

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the Britons to accomplish what is considered by all of us

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to be the worst outcome we can think of.

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In Whitehall, and the country more widely, people care

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But that's not the case in many of the other

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And that's why the issue has been so far down this week's summit

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agenda, and why many of those nations are ready to fall in behind

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a German lead, that says play it long, wait for the British

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to develop buyers remorse, particularly if their

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And earlier this week, with the experience of sterling's

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fall still fresh in people's minds, the EU ratcheted up the pressure

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another notch, offering the UK a chance it seemed

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We will conduct the negotiations in good faith.

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Minimise the cost and seek the best possible deal for all.

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But as I have said before, I am afraid that no such outcome exists

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Of course, it is and can only be for the UK to assess the outcome

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of the negotiations, and determine if Brexit

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That last phrase suggests the UK can abandon Brexit once Theresa May has

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seen what her fellow leaders are prepared to offer.

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It undermines British government legal arguments that

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Article 50 is irrevocable, and may offer another two

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years for Downing Street to change its mind.

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And all the time, EU leaders will be using their leverage.

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For example, by closing the UK out of many discussions,

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something the Prime Minister complained about today.

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We will be, as I've said, in the first quarter of next year

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There will be a process for the 27 to consider how they are going

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But, we will continue to play our role, as I have done,

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I can assure you that I haven't been backward

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So ended a summit and a week, where the 27 continued

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in their refusal to have any pre-negotiation of Brexit,

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and for good measure threatened to keep growing uncertainty

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about the UK and its economy well beyond the activation of Article 50.

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Some breaking news tonight concerning another EU deal. Mark

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urban is here now. What happened? Essentially this appears to be a

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breakdown of trade talks with Canada. It's a long saga. The talks

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themselves went on for six, nearly seven years. For the past year or

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so, the EU has been trying to ratify an agreement with Canada, this trade

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agreement. Talks have broken down and the Canadian Trade Minister

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tonight said the EU is incapable of doing this deal, even with a country

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like ours of very similar values. It's a torturous saga and frankly it

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is straight out of the Leave campaign playbook. In the sense that

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it is a dramatic illustration of how convoluted, hidebound and ultimately

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frustrating it is to try and do free trade through an EU framework.

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Whether they are able to revive this, we can't yet say, but the

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Canadians for the moment are saying they've given up, thwarted at the

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last minute by a regional Belgian that wouldn't agree to it.

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Conversely, any implications of a UK deal with the EU? It's like the most

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extraordinary diplomatic conundrum because on the one hand you can say,

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oh Lord, deliver us from this sort of process that Canada has been put

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through, but for the UK to get through to that point where it can

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cut its own free-trade deals with countries like the UK and Canada

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wherever, it's going to have to go through a very similar process. In

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that sense, it's a bit of a nightmarish harbinger about how

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complex things might be if all 27 of the other states choose to use their

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own points of pressure. It might be Spain on Gibraltar, it might be

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Remainiac on workers' rights in Britain, all these points they might

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have two hold-up agreement of any deal when it is finally reached.

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Happy days diplomatic editors, though! Thank you very much, Mark

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Urban. In life, she was Pakistan's first

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social media superstar. Provocative selfies and film clips

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garnered comparisons with Kim Kardashian and propelled

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Qandeel Baloch to a comparable level In death, she seems set to prove

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an even more influential figure. Murdered by her own brother

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in a so-called honour crime after her flirting on camera

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with a prominent cleric caused a media furore,

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the case has prompted unprecedented scrutiny of the stone age patriarchy

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that sees a thousand Pakistani women die in similar

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circumstances every year. And earlier this month,

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the country's Parliament passed a law to close a loophole that had

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allowed the perpetrators And she became Pakistan's

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social media superstar. Her highly provocative videos

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shocked many in Pakistan, On the 15th July 2016,

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Qandeel was killed by her brother, because in his eyes,

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she had brought shame on the family. It was on one chat show that she met

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Mufti Qavi, a celebrity cleric. Mufti Qavi suggested that they meet

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next time he was in Karachi. A few weeks later, during the holy

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month of Ramadan, Qandeel Baloch met It was during this meeting

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that she took a number of selfies. In one, she was wearing

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the Mufti's hat. This picture in particular caused

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a media storm. Soon she and the Mufti

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were everywhere. In the fallout, Mufti Qavi

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was suspended from his job For her brother Waseem, the media

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intrusion was the final straw. But why were those selfies

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with Mufti Qavi so controversial? A month after the selfies appeared,

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Qandeel was killed. How much did the photos with

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Mufti Qavi contribute to her murder? I went to meet him at his

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madrasah in Multan. Mufti Qavi comes from a family

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of clerics who have lived To the locals, he is a revered

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and respected religious scholar. 1,000 women die each year

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from honour crimes in Pakistan. A bill being debated in Parliament

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is looking to put an end to honour It will take away the right

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of a family to forgive the killer. I wanted to talk to Qandeel's father

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about Atia's concerns. He hasn't visited his son Waseem

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in jail, but some relatives have. In a nondescript patch of land

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lies Qandeel's body, The Anti-Honour Crime Bill was

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passed on the 6th of October 2016. The hope is that this law will stop

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those who kill for honour And you can watch the full Our World

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documentary "The Killing of Qandeel", by Hani Taha,

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on the News Channel this Saturday and Sunday at 9.30pm,

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as well as on the iPlayer. I'm joined now by the author and

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renowned feminist, Camille Paglia. She's in town for a Battle of Ideas

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event in London tomorrow that will examine the myriad facets

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of modern feminism. Including the question of what women

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should be fighting for in 2016. When you watch a film like that from

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Pakistan and then see that we have another female Prime Minister and we

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may be about to get a female president, is the answer to that

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question not dependent on where those women live? Well, I've

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constantly said that that we real focus of contemporary feminism

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should be on the lack of civil rights and atrocities committed

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against women in the third World and not an excessive sensationalising of

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problems that bourgeoise girls are having in dating on college

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campuses. There has been a severe disproportion and 425 years I've

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been calling for young women to stand up for themselves and show

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responsibility for the choices they make in their social lives and for

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colleges and universities to stop intruding into social lives of

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students. I mean, the question then of what women should be fighting for

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is, they should just be fighting more? I believe that the proper

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definition of feminism should be a quality of opportunity in the public

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realm. This is what I have constantly said, that women should

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demand that barriers to their advance in careers like politics and

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must be removed. However, the private realm is far more complex.

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This is where I oppose intrusions by the state or by bureaucratic

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administrators on college campuses who have now, in effect, usurped the

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educational mission and destroyed it in the US, and I'm very unhappy that

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those mad trends seem to be leaking over into Britain. I see. I hope

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that doesn't constitute a spoiler for tomorrow's event! Let me ask

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you, is Hilary Clinton a good feminist? Alas, Hilary Clinton's

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prominence is due to her atavistic attachment to a man. Hillary has

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accomplished very little in her career although she has had the

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opportunity to do so. I would have hoped that the first woman president

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would have achieved it on her own talents and merits and not because

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she has lived under the shadow of a very charismatic politician, for

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whom I voted twice. I wasn't really a fan of Hilary Clinton but I have

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becomes India Lee disillusioned. She should -- she should not surely

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exempt herself from seeking office purely because she has been married

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to a man who has achieved that? I'm afraid she has written on Bill

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Clinton's coat-tails in her career and has accomplished exactly

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nothing. The destabilisation of North Africa is one of them... I

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feel she is one of the most incompetent and corrupt politicians

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in my lifetime in America. I hesitate to ask the next question

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commercially she is a better feminist than Donald Trump? Alas...

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Is she a better logician than Donald Trump?

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-- is she a better politician than Donald Trump? Yes! So she is the

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second worst ever? She has enormous staff who feed her lines come

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everything she does is poll tested and so on. I feel that the senator

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from California should have been the first woman president. That is a

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woman of real habitats. She still might be. The trouble is that people

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running for president in the United States must subject themselves to

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one or two years... Their whole lives are consumed with money and

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trying to appeal to an enormous country. Even one of our states is

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as big as Europe... If we had the system you had where a person could

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rise to the top of the party and then that person takes over as

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president, we would have had a woman president long before this.

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You wrote about Donald Trump and described him as a master of the

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unexpected. You seem to centre the two some of its charms. Has he got

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any left? Well, if Donald Trump wins, it is because of a populist

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fatigue with a tyranny by a political structure in Washington

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which essentially is a unique party, there is very different between --

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very little difference between Democrats and Republicans. -- a

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uni-party. Pair is a relationship with the mainstream media where it

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is possible for people to make fortunes... I don't think it's

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understood in Europe how corrupt our mainstream media is. If Trump wins,

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it will shatter the power structure of two parties and the mainstream

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media. And we barely scratched the surface. That is indeed always got

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time for. Good night. -- that's all we've got time for.

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Good evening. The weekend is fast approaching. Let's

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