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Gabby Logan will be back next week, Big Apple. | :00:09. | :00:08. | |
She has been bruised, emotionally Wednesday at | :00:09. | :00:35. | |
She has been bruised, emotionally battered anti-militated by a raft of | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
enemies, and sometimes even by her husband. All that scar tissue | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
renders her stiff, sometimes embarrassingly awkward. And we will | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
also be talking to the editor of the new York Times. | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
Also tonight: Online blackmail, webcams and shame in the Arab world. | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
Vision and sound are on. The station goes on the air. | :01:00. | :01:11. | |
It's exactly 80 years since TV started in Britain. | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
John Logie Baird's assistant at the time - yes, | :01:14. | :01:20. | |
this is really him - tells us about the early days of TV. | :01:21. | :01:27. | |
The year of Donald Trump dominating our headlines, | :01:28. | :01:33. | |
breaking the rules and conventions of democratic politics | :01:34. | :01:35. | |
with everything including the ludicrous and the lascivious, | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
and a year of him surprising us by how far he has got, will be over. | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
He will either be President of the US - in which case, | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
we'll have a lot to talk about - or Hillary Clinton will be President | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
and Donald Trump will revert to being a TV star. | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
Right now, the smart money is on Hillary, so let's spend a bit | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
of time on her personality and politics, and her chances. | :01:54. | :02:01. | |
Hillary has perhaps been getting less than the usual scrutiny, what, | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
But here's some interesting testimony about her | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
I think that she's a little bit misunderstood. | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
You know, Hillary's a very smart woman, very tough woman - | :02:15. | :02:16. | |
that's fine - but she's also a very nice person. | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
With an endorsement like that, her performance in the debates | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
and all the other stuff, is there any way that | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
The answer is yes, but it's pretty unlikely. | :02:28. | :02:37. | |
The latest polling average puts her about six points ahead of Mr Trump. | :02:38. | :02:47. | |
The uncannily accurate FiveThreeEight political blog, | :02:48. | :02:48. | |
which analyses all polls state-by-state, says she has an 85% | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
In fact, one might think of there being three possible outcomes. | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
A Clinton landslide - leading the popular vote by more | :02:58. | :03:03. | |
than 10%, a narrower Clinton win, or a Trump victory either | :03:04. | :03:05. | |
in the popular vote or at least in the electoral college. | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
Have a look at the chances put on each of these. | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
The landslide, at 19%, has a bigger chance than any kind | :03:12. | :03:13. | |
A more modest Clinton victory remains the most likely outcome. | :03:14. | :03:23. | |
There are potential reasons that Mrs Clinton may not clinch it | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
Is there more to come out e-mails hacked from her | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
Also, there are more than the usual undecided voters this year. | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
But there's no reason to think they will go to Trump. | :03:35. | :03:48. | |
But the real question mark over a Hillary victory there | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
is raised by the Brexit factor here. | :03:52. | :03:52. | |
Believe me, this is Brexit times five. | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
Maybe Trump can prove the polls and experts wrong. | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
Now, the truth is, UK polls are often wrong, but we should | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
never have been that surprised by a Brexit win. | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
Two weeks before referendum day, two polls put Brexit ahead, one by 10%. | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
Donald Trump may have the backing of one famous Brexiteer, | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
but Hillary can probably take heart from the Brexit polling story. | :04:19. | :04:25. | |
She's in a stronger position than Remain was, or Donald Trump is. | :04:26. | :04:32. | |
Ariel Edwards-Levy, Director of Polling at the Huffington Post, | :04:33. | :04:34. | |
commissions three polls a week in conjunction with YouGov | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
and analyses the results for their readers. | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
Good evening. What chance are you putting on a Hillary win at the | :04:41. | :04:51. | |
moment? We have her in the high 90% chance of winning. There are a | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
couple of forecasts, and the worst has her in the high 80s. The | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
forecasts are confident that the polls are right. There is pretty | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
much a consensus right now that the polls have her head, and if | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
something doesn't go catastrophically wrong with the | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
polls, or she doesn't do something catastrophic with her campaign in | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
the next two weeks, she will win. Any time we have an election, we | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
hear about shy Tories, people who don't admit to being on a particular | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
side. What makes you so sure that there are not shied Trump | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
supporters? People who think it is socially unhelpful to admit to | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
supporting him and want tell a pollster? Aside from the fact that | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
saying you have many supporters who are too embarrassed to support you | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
not really being a winning message, one of the great things about modern | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
polling technology is we have a way of testing this, because there are | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
two kinds of polls, online polls where you don't have to admit to | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
anyone who you are supporting, and the kind where somebody calls you | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
up. And what we have seen is that all Trump's level of support in both | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
of those polls is identical, so you have this mode effect, where polls | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
online for Brexit were getting a different response, and you are not | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
seeing any of those warning signs here right now. Is the Brexit result | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
here and the fact that it seemed to take a lot of people by surprise, it | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
probably shouldn't have quite so much, but is that to some extent | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
haunting the American elections here? I think the parallel for | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
Brexit is maybe not one that Donald Trump supporters should embrace, | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
because there is a parallel, and it is that if you look at the polls and | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
dismiss them, and you prefer to stay with the narrative that is not | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
supported by those numbers, you are going to be surprise when the | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
results end up looking a lot like those numbers are not what you were | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
telling yourself in the run-up to the election. What would it take to | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
stop Hillary Clinton now? You are putting 90 something percent chance | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
of her winning. There is still news to occur. Maybe an e-mail or | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
something to come out. What would you say is the most likely scenario | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
that could see Donald Trump get it on the day? In order for him to win, | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
he would have to regain his footing in all of the red states that have | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
started looking close, states like Arizona that you wouldn't ever | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
expect to go democratic but have trended that way. There are a couple | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
of state polls that have indicated he might be close to hanging on | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
there. He would have to win over states like Nevada, Florida, Ohio, | :07:29. | :07:36. | |
and he would have to win over states like Pennsylvania that he has never | :07:37. | :07:42. | |
had popularity in before. It could be that all of the polls have | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
somehow missed something terribly, terribly wrong. The other thing | :07:48. | :07:56. | |
could be that something in the next two weeks to stories Hillary's | :07:57. | :07:58. | |
support. But it is difficult to think what that would be, but never | :07:59. | :08:07. | |
say never until the votes are cast. What do the polls tell us is the | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
reason for Hillary Clinton having such a negative perception? Many | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
people say they will vote for her, but there is still a strong negative | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
perception of her? Yes, there is, and if you look back a couple of | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
years, when she was Secretary of State, she was one of the most | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
popular politicians in the United States, and then she started running | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
again and people remembered everything they didn't like about | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
her, so it is a combination of two things. One is partisanship. | :08:36. | :08:44. | |
Republicans are not going to like the Democratic nominee, pretty much | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
no matter who they are. And she has gotten this persona of being not | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
trustworthy, of being power hungry, and the e-mails, no matter what role | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
they play in the campaign, which may not be a significant one, they have | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
tired her opinion among many rank-and-file Americans who don't | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
see her as an entirely upstanding figure. Thank you very much indeed. | :09:07. | :09:09. | |
So what is the appeal of Hillary Clinton? | :09:10. | :09:11. | |
We asked a long-time associate of the Clintons and the writer | :09:12. | :09:13. | |
of the novel Primary Colors, which fictionalised | :09:14. | :09:15. | |
President Bill Clinton's first campaign in 1992, | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
the political columnist for Time Magazine Joe Klein | :09:19. | :09:20. | |
to explain why she has his backing for the White House. | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
I wanna be the president for every American. | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
Who says I don't have the stamina to be President? | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
Who or what is Hillary Clinton aside from probably the next president | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
She isn't really a regulation human being, not any more. | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
Her life has been ridiculously public for the 30 years | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
She's been bruised, emotionally battered and humiliated by a raft | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
of enemies and sometimes even by her husband. | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
As a result, she is cloaked in a thick crust of celebrity armour. | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
She protects herself with scar tissue from 10,000 cuts. | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies, | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
Her first instinct in public, therefore, is to play defence, | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
I am not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man | :10:15. | :10:22. | |
All that scar tissue renders her stiff, | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
She seems secretive, shifty, the least known | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
My personal e-mails are my personal business, right? | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
The natural assumption is that she must be | :10:36. | :10:37. | |
If you asked her out for a beer, would she order | :10:38. | :10:46. | |
There have been so many scandals around nothing very scandalous. | :10:47. | :11:06. | |
In the 1990s, there was a seven-year Whitewater investigation | :11:07. | :11:08. | |
into her family's personal finances, which found nothing illegal. | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
There have been seven separate investigations into her behaviour | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
as Secretary of State during the Benghazi attack | :11:17. | :11:18. | |
Again, her behaviour was found perfectly proper. | :11:19. | :11:28. | |
And now there's the investigation into the personal e-mail | :11:29. | :11:30. | |
server that she used while she was Secretary of State | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
which found that she did behave carelessly in handling some | :11:35. | :11:36. | |
classified information, but she had done nothing illegal. | :11:37. | :11:50. | |
But she is hated, she is reviled, she is considered untrustworthy, | :11:51. | :11:58. | |
she is considered J Lovell by some people. | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
she is considered jailable by some people. | :12:04. | :12:05. | |
In fact Barack Obama once said to her, famously, | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
you are likeable enough, Hillary. | :12:10. | :12:10. | |
Her vote to support the war in Iraq was dreadful, | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
and I think was a political vote, a vote to prove her toughness. | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
Too often, her votes are too political. | :12:17. | :12:18. | |
She may be too close to Wall Street, but it's | :12:19. | :12:20. | |
important to remember that | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
most of the accusations against her involve her private | :12:24. | :12:25. | |
They don't involve violations of the public trust. | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
For too long, our leaders have viewed politics is the art | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
of the possible, and the challenge now is to practice politics | :12:35. | :12:36. | |
as the art of making what appears to be impossible possible. | :12:37. | :12:43. | |
The truth is, Clinton is a solid public servant. | :12:44. | :12:45. | |
She's the girl, the young woman who sat in front of class | :12:46. | :12:53. | |
She is the sober designated driver driving her mates home after a night | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
When we'd see each other back in the 1990s when she was First | :13:00. | :13:11. | |
Lady, her first question to me always was, what | :13:12. | :13:13. | |
Have you seen any exciting social programmes or schools | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
After 9/11, which happened right here, the question changed. | :13:18. | :13:27. | |
She joined the Senate armed services committee. | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
I was learning the military, too, and the new question now was, | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
In 2007, I spent time embedded in Iraq with General David Petraeus. | :13:37. | :13:45. | |
I asked him is there any potential president of the Democratic party | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
And he said, you mean aside from Hillary? | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
And I guess we have to say this, given | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
We are at a very perilous moment in American politics, | :14:02. | :14:10. | |
just as you are in Britain, and that is so un-American. | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
We are supposed to be a pillar of stability. | :14:15. | :14:16. | |
Clean elections, two parties, civility. | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
But the Republicans are in the midst of an unprecedented bloody | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
civil war, and both sides will try to prove their toughness | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
by stomping all over President Hillary Clinton. | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
The Democrats will be impatient, too. | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
Bernie Sanders and his young supporters will be just | :14:35. | :14:36. | |
Leading America in the world would be a hard enough job for anyone, | :14:37. | :14:51. | |
and harder still for an awkward, defensive woman who will always be | :14:52. | :14:54. | |
compared unfavourably to her husband and Barack Obama, | :14:55. | :14:56. | |
even though she is bound to follow their policies | :14:57. | :14:58. | |
The next four years will be far more difficult than her | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
But one thing I know about Hillary Clinton. | :15:04. | :15:12. | |
I am not Hillary Clinton but I think she would approve of that message, | :15:13. | :15:27. | |
that is from Joe Klein. Dean Baquet is the Executive Editor | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
of the New York Times. The paper has endorsed Hillary | :15:31. | :15:39. | |
Clinton. The editorial page. Is that because she's a stronger candidate | :15:40. | :15:44. | |
or not Donald Trump? No, I run the news pages and not the editorial | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
pages and I think the argument was she is a strong candidate. There was | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
a very powerful anti-Donald Trump part of it. But the New York Times | :15:56. | :15:59. | |
has endorsed Hillary Clinton in the past, she was the US senator for New | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
York, so it was a pro Hillary Clinton endorsement. In a strange | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
way, this election has been challenging and testing for | :16:09. | :16:11. | |
everybody and for her, but has she come through it and tested on issues | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
like policy? There has not been much chance to have that debate. I think | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
that is true. One of the biggest downside of this sometimes, campaign | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
we have had with Donald Trump as sort of a, book figure is that not | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
only have we tried to write about policy, but the debates have not | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
focused so much on policy and I think people have not got to test | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
them on everything from what would they do about Syria, on health care | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
in the United States? There has been so much, relief that we have not | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
heard enough about. What does Hillary stand for? I am hard pressed | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
to answer and we have barely spoken about her! If you look at, I have | :16:53. | :16:59. | |
covered the Clintons a bit as a reporter, and she is a moderate | :17:00. | :17:02. | |
Democrat, she is strong on national defence, she may even be stronger on | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
national defence than Barack Obama and more likely to intervene broad | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
than Barack Obama -- abroad. She did vote to intervene in Iraq. She is | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
moderate on social issues, she is a moderate Democrat who by the way is | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
going to have the struggle to hold onto that because she defeated an | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
extraordinary Liberal opponent. As Jo pointed out and he's right, the | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
supporters of Bernie Sanders will not be happy if Hillary Clinton | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
introduces your standard American Cabinet middle-aged guys who work | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
for think tanks in Washington. A lot of people think she is corrupt and | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
she takes money for this and that. The e-mail scandal has had an | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
enormous amounts to play and she has apologised and she has been taken to | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
task on that. The one that perhaps is more questionable is the | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
foundation. She is Secretary of State and running for President and | :18:01. | :18:03. | |
running around the foreign leaders and taking their money for her | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
charity, not for her own benefit, is that a bit weird? I think the e-mail | :18:09. | :18:15. | |
scandal was more indicative of the questions people have about Hillary | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
Clinton. I don't think she did anything corrupt or illegal, but she | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
is a very secretive person and the Clintons in the White house were | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
very secretive and suspicious of those around them. I think that was | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
part of the calculation when she wanted her own e-mail server. I | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
don't think much has been proven about the Clinton Foundation, unlike | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
Donald Trump's, it is a large gift-giving foundation. I do think | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
there is evidence she used her position to help raise money for the | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
foundation but in a weird way, the e-mail scandal is worth chewing over | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
four people, it is not one... Have you been soft on her at the New York | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
Times because she is against Donald Trump? No, we broke the e-mail | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
scandal. And we were roundly criticised by her and her people. We | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
have written very provocative stories about the relationship she | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
played years ago when Bill Clinton had to deal with the allegations | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
about women when he was running for office. If she was running against a | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
normal candidate, people would think we were extraordinarily tough on | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
her. In fact, she thinks we are. Let's talk about how this election | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
has shaped coverage. The New York Times tries to be relatively | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
impartial in its news pages. Trump has challenged that. We have never | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
seen anybody like him. I mean, we did something extraordinary a couple | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
of months ago and we accused him of telling a lie in a headline and used | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
the word, live. And I decided to do it because I found that he is so | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
persistently lying. He so persistently and overtly lied. | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
Politicians lie, they exaggerate, they say things that will be later | :20:01. | :20:07. | |
disproven, but Trump was doing this extraordinary thing and the turning | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
point was the allegation that Barack Obama was not born in the United | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
States. He literally lied and said he had never made a big deal of it | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
and he also said he hired a private detective. I thought that was beyond | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
the pale and we owed it to our leaders to not obfuscate and said | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
that was not a lie. You have done it for Trump, he told a lie and you | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
called it out in a headline and used the word lie, very unlike the New | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
York Times. Let's suppose a candidate like Hillary tells a verb, | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
do you go back to the normal treatment of that which is you | :20:42. | :20:44. | |
probably question it in the article and say no evidence was offered, how | :20:45. | :20:52. | |
ever you put it, or do you say, it is a lie? I think Trump did | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
something different and I think we have changed and we will do it for | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
future politicians. His was not a fib. He said vocally one thing | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
Monday and something else different Tuesday and it was a lie he | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
stretched over time. I think to be Frankie change does. I think it took | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
us a little bit of time to call him out. And I think the next time it | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
happens, we will do it more quickly and I think we are different as a | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
result of Donald Trump. Not sure what that looks like five years from | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
now. You will say, we are only doing it for clear lies. Then there will | :21:28. | :21:34. | |
be people who say, this is a clear lie and you have to make a judgment, | :21:35. | :21:37. | |
do we call this out as they clear lie or a fib which we do not? When | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
we use the word lie in a headline, I have a standards editor who reports | :21:44. | :21:45. | |
to me and he called me the next day and said, I agree with that, that | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
was great, I hope you are not going to do it everyday! U2 FactCheck | :21:51. | :21:57. | |
Donald Trump, well, everybody. Which -- we do FactCheck them both. To | :21:58. | :22:05. | |
some extent, is the problem for everybody that Donald Trump's | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
politics are not about facts, people are not listening to the facts out | :22:10. | :22:12. | |
of his head and judging him on those, they are reading the | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
subtitles about, I support you, these people are not on your side, I | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
am on the side. I don't know what it is, they will do things for you | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
rather than for the people who benefit. To an extent, that is true, | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
but he is behind in the polls sub some people, some Americans, they | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
are fact checking him. But I think most of what you say is true. I | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
think Donald Trump has cast himself in this remarkable role. This is a | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
guy who says he is a billionaire, but he is running against, and he | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
has done this is whole life, he is running against elite, but the | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
leaders of the Republican party. The New York Times! This is a guy who | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
made his fortune building apartment buildings for people who probably | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
could not have gotten into old money exclusive buildings. He was born in | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
Queen's. His father made his fortune in Queen's, he went to the big city | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
Manhattan and has been running against elite in his entire business | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
and now political career and that includes others. Did you, the | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
newspaper, like a lot of others, did you miss the story that there were | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
going to be so many people who were receptive to that anti-elite | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
message? Yes, I don't think we missed the story and I disagree with | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
those who say we missed the story of Donald Trump, I do not think so. | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
People know a lot of Out one. The story we messed and the press was | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
just how much anger there was in the country over the economic crisis and | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
disparity between the middle-class and extremely wealthy in the United | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
States. Although I have to say, it was easy to miss and it may have | :23:53. | :23:55. | |
taken a Donald Trump to put his finger on it and the light that up | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
but we did miss that story and I come away with lessons about how to | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
cover the country going forward. We're trying to talk about Hillary | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
Clinton today and we have ended up talking about Donald Trump! | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
Finishing on Hillary Clinton, do you think is a President she can unite | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
the nation? At this bitter campaign, can America be healed within a year | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
under Hillary? I do not think it is just on her. I think like Barack | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
Obama, she will try. I think a lot of it is on whether or not the | :24:27. | :24:29. | |
Republican party can take back the percentage of voters Donald Trump | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
took away from them. I think a lot of it depends on whether Democrats | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
are willing to let's -- to let go of their dreams of Bernie Sanders and a | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
left-leaning party. She has to try, I don't think it is up to her. A lot | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
of factions have to come together and I think it is going to be tough. | :24:48. | :24:49. | |
Dean Baquet, thank you. Shame is one of our | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
most basic emotions. It's been ruining lives for as long | :24:53. | :24:53. | |
as humans can remember, and it's also been used as a form | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
of traditional social control. But in the modern era, | :24:57. | :24:59. | |
technology has offered new ways A problem in our relatively | :25:00. | :25:01. | |
permissive society, but with far bigger human consequences | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
in the more conservative The BBC Arabic Service | :25:08. | :25:08. | |
is behind a fascinating It's called Shame, Sex, Honour | :25:09. | :25:15. | |
and Blackmail in an online world. We thought we'd bring you two films | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
from that project - Women, of course, are particularly | :25:22. | :25:23. | |
vulnerable to blackmail, Today, though, we thought we'd show | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
you that it can affect men, too. It happened when I was home alone. | :25:27. | :25:52. | |
This girl added me on Facebook. That night, she starts | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
chatting on Skype. And after a while, she asks | :25:56. | :26:04. | |
if I have a So I turned on my video and said, | :26:05. | :26:06. | |
can I see you, too? She lies on her bed | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
and starts masturbating. With a girl like this, | :26:13. | :26:22. | |
you lose your head. I'm a man, and I recorded | :26:23. | :26:32. | |
you masturbating. I have a list of your | :26:33. | :26:39. | |
family from Facebook. You have only one week | :26:40. | :26:41. | |
to send me 2000 euros, or I'll | :26:42. | :26:43. | |
send them the video. I'd have thrown myself out | :26:44. | :26:51. | |
of the window from the We'll have more from the Shame | :26:52. | :27:03. | |
season tomorrow, with the story And we'll also be discussing | :27:04. | :30:21. | |
the issues raised by France and Britain have a lot | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
to talk about right now, not least the jungle in Calais, | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
and of course Brexit. The Jungle has been cleared, | :30:31. | :30:33. | |
the form Brexit takes It happened that the French | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
agriculture minister, Stephane Le Foll, was in London | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
today in talks relating to COP22, the next round of UN | :30:42. | :30:44. | |
climate change discussions He also has a job as a Government | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
spokesman, so I caught up with him in the lavish surroundings | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
of Lancaster House. I began by asking him | :30:52. | :30:53. | |
whether he knows who's responsible for the chaotic scenes | :30:54. | :30:55. | |
in the Calais Jungle. Are you going to have 5000 police | :30:56. | :31:33. | |
guarding the dunes around Calais, the empty warehouses in Calais, the | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
beach around Calais. Because if you don't, presumably the migrants will | :31:39. | :31:39. | |
return. There is a debate in France, it | :31:40. | :32:22. | |
seems, about whether the treaty was the right treaty. Maybe the border | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
should move back to Dover? Maybe it is easier for Calais. You can put | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
the migrants on a boat, send them to Britain. | :32:34. | :33:12. | |
Do you think in retrospect the European Union, if it had known that | :33:13. | :33:21. | |
Britain was going to vote this way would not have made more effort to | :33:22. | :33:22. | |
keep the United Kingdom in? Let's just talk about why you are | :33:23. | :34:22. | |
here, which is for a pre-meeting of the next climate change talks. The | :34:23. | :34:29. | |
last talks were in Paris, of course. Are you happy that the legacy of the | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
Paris talks is being carried through? | :34:35. | :35:23. | |
Stephane Le Foll, thank you very much. | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
This is the erection of the TV tower at Alexandra Palace in North London. | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
Famous for being the point from which the first regular, | :35:34. | :35:35. | |
proper television service was broadcast by the BBC. | :35:36. | :35:38. | |
For a while, there were two competing services, in fact, | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
one based on a picture technology of 405 lines, the other using | :35:42. | :35:44. | |
a system devised by John Logie Baird which had 240 lines. | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
The Logie Baird system was quickly dropped. | :35:50. | :35:51. | |
But both were high definition at the time. | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
Back then, the technology meant the picture took 58 seconds to be | :35:56. | :35:58. | |
New technology needed custom-built studios. | :35:59. | :36:02. | |
And guess what - next Wednesday, is the 80th anniversary | :36:03. | :36:09. | |
Here is some of the Baird apparatus. The transmitting valves, the | :36:10. | :36:20. | |
spotlight scanner, the spotlight studio in which photocells take the | :36:21. | :36:23. | |
place of lights and the projection room with the projector. | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
And guess what - next Wednesday, is the 80th anniversary | :36:30. | :36:32. | |
# # Mighty mystic, magic raise | :36:33. | :36:56. | |
# All about us in the gloom # Living pictures out of space | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
# To bring a new wonder to you Well, I spoke to Paul Reveley | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
earlier this evening. He is now aged 104, but he worked | :37:06. | :37:11. | |
as the personal technical assistant of John Logie Baird back | :37:12. | :37:14. | |
then in 1936. He told me the man most people think | :37:15. | :37:24. | |
invented television wasn't even a VIP guest on the night. | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
He wasn't even invited to a set on the platform at the opening | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
Well, look, his system didn't make it. | :37:34. | :37:40. | |
It was the one that was dropped, wasn't it? | :37:41. | :37:42. | |
And the EMI Marconi system was accepted. | :37:43. | :37:48. | |
Did the right decision get made in the end, do you think? | :37:49. | :37:50. | |
There's not really much between the systems in television. | :37:51. | :38:03. | |
It was a question of the implementation. | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
Did you think, back then, when you were working | :38:10. | :38:12. | |
for John Logie Baird, did you know how big | :38:13. | :38:14. | |
and influential television would be in the 20th century? | :38:15. | :38:21. | |
So the huge irony in the history of television is that | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
John Logie Baird was the first to do it, and his was | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
He was the first to make it, make something work. | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
It was what the patent office call obvious to those versed in the art. | :38:38. | :38:51. | |
All you had to do was code the mosaic of light and shade, | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
which a transmissible scene is composed of. | :38:59. | :39:04. | |
You have to code that in some way, which is called scanning. | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
And then transmit that like a Morse code down a single | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
When did you buy your first television? | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
I didn't buy a television in the UK at all. | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
I bought a television much later on in life when I was working | :39:24. | :39:29. | |
for the Post Office engineering department of the Hong | :39:30. | :39:31. | |
How was John Logie Baird as a man to work for? | :39:32. | :39:44. | |
You must feel very proud, he has a very big history to him, | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
and you must feel proud to have had a very close relationship to him? | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
He was very considerate of his staff. | :39:52. | :40:02. | |
And of course, he was working at the forefront of his technology, | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
but he didn't do any practical work himself once he'd formed the Baird | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
He delegated all work, all actual, physical work | :40:12. | :40:19. | |
You weren't at Alexandra Palace on that night. | :40:20. | :40:31. | |
What were you doing on the night of those first broadcast, | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
I expect I was having dinner with my wife. | :40:35. | :40:40. | |
I have to say, Paul, it is a great privilege | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
Thank you very much for coming on, thank you. | :40:45. | :40:47. | |
Coming up on BBC Two, No Such Thing As The News. | :40:48. | :40:57. | |
We leave you with Chris Horsely, who's just been visiting | :40:58. | :40:59. | |
the Marum Volcano in Vanuatu in an unconscious bid to reconstruct | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
the Mount Doom scene in The Lord Of The Rings. | :41:03. | :41:05. |