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easy beepers and managing director spoke about him yesterday, that is | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
all in Sportsday in 15 minutes after The Papers. | :00:00. | :00:16. | |
Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will bring us | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
tomorrow. With us, to Hugh Muir, diary editor of the Guardian and Sue | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
Matthias, editor of the FT Weekend Magazine. Thank you for joining us. | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
Tomorrow's front pages: The Independent shows a cheerful | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
Nigel Farage, celebrating the local election results. | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
It's much the same on the front of the Daily Mail, the paper reporting | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
that the Shadow Cabinet's turned on Ed Miliband following the polls. | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
Nigel Farage is on the front of the Express. The main story though is | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
the discovery of a protein that could protect against dementia. The | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
FT's lead is the paper's investigation into the French | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
economist who got his sums wrong in his bestselling book on the economy. | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
Nigel Farage is a hurricane, says the i, reporting that the era of | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
four`party politics has begun in Britain. | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
The discovery of the Cheeki Rafiki's hull in the Atlantic leads the Daily | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
Mirror. Labour's been thrown into poll | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
crisis by the local election results, says the Telegraph. And, | :01:14. | :01:21. | |
little mention of the elecitions in the Times ` the paper leads with its | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
report on the supermarket chiefs who ignore expiry dates on the foods | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
they eat at home. There is only one place to begin, | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
isn't there, after the huge changes to the landscape, politically, | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
thanks to UKIP's showing in the English local elections. If we start | :01:39. | :01:46. | |
with the Independent, phage crashes the party. Savouring the moment with | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
his typical pint. `` Nigel Farage crushes the party. He is holding his | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
pint and it looks like he is involved in an act of worship! If | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
you want to escape from him, don't look at any of the papers tomorrow | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
because that would be a vain hope. They have used strange pictures. On | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
the Daily Mail, they have him looking a bit like a gargoyle. I am | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
not sure why they chose that picture. He will be a happy man | :02:16. | :02:22. | |
today. 17% of the vote, they took, although strangely he will want to | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
know what happened in London. London seems to have been very different. | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
17% everywhere else, just 7% in London. One of his spokespeople sort | :02:31. | :02:38. | |
of suggested it is because people are younger and better educated. I | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
think London will be a lost cause for him, but he won't be sad about | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
that. He can just go east to Essex, which seems to be becoming more of a | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
stronghold for him. We have gone through successive elections where | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
Essex has been the weather vane for what is going to happen in the rest | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
of the country. If he is doing well there, he will be quite happy. It | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
gives the main parties a lot to think about. We hear this every time | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
there is an upset, but it is how they turn things around before the | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
general election. That is true. If Nigel Farage is looking happy, well, | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
he would be. He can drink his pint in the knowledge that he has | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
completely wrong`footed the main parties. Tonight, they will be | :03:24. | :03:30. | |
trying to work out what on earth they are going to do. What they are | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
going to do to meet this challenge. What is interesting is that Nigel | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
Farage does not have to do much at all. All that he has to do is stand | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
back. He has a very simple message, which has been very well delivered | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
by him. One is Europe, one is immigration. He does not have to go | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
any further than that. Many discontented voters see in him a | :03:56. | :04:02. | |
voice of common sense and somebody who is at least appearing to give a | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
direct message. You can't say that about the other parties. They will | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
simply have too just what they are doing to victory. I agree with a lot | :04:12. | :04:17. | |
of that. I don't think there is too much that he has to do, but the | :04:18. | :04:20. | |
other parties are going to have to work out how to cope with him. There | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
is an analysis in the Daily Mail by Professor Anthony King and he says, | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
now the other parties know they have to take UKIP seriously, but how they | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
cope with it is another matter. They cannot keep dismissing them as | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
fruitcakes and loonies, if those are the votes they need to claw back | :04:38. | :04:44. | |
from UKIP. My theory is that having established is two simple messages | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
over immigration and Europe, it is very difficult for the other parties | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
to take him on with more sophisticated messages. I don't | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
think they have found a formula for that, and it is going to be very | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
difficult. We are told by many politicians that immigration is good | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
for the country, that there are many benefits to staying in the European | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
Union, even if we renegotiate our relationship with it. And yet for | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
many people it is the appeal of UKIP against those messages which is why | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
they have done so well. Let's move on to the Daily Mail. The savaging | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
of Ed Miliband, talking about how none of the main parties are happy | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
with these results, even though, as we were saying, Labour gained 290 | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
seats. On a normal day, they would be pleased with that. How much extra | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
thinking, of all of the leaders, has Ed Miliband got to do? Because some | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
of his own party have been critical of how he has approached this | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
campaign. Absolutely. They seem to be queueing up to have a bit of a go | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
at him tonight. It is just part of the bigger picture for him, really, | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
which is that he doesn't seem to be able to cut through with a message | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
for the voters that the voters can receive and understand. I think what | :05:58. | :06:04. | |
is interesting is that it ties into what we were saying before which is | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
that because of the Nigel Farage factor, the UKIP factor, it is | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
asking questions of all the other parties, how they are going to | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
respond. And Ed Miliband has the problem that he is not communicating | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
anyway. I think that those around him are beginning to get seriously | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
worried about how he is going to get it together in time for the next | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
election. One of his MPs was saying it was an unprofessional campaign. | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
There are a few quotes and some of the stories about the bacon butty | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
incident, when he was photographed trying to eat a bacon butty and it | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
was not rather elegant. Some people say that was part of the | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
unprofessional campaign that he ran. I think he has a problem. I think | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
they are being a bit skittish, because there is a basic philosophy | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
here that, if things stay as they are, then the boundary situation, | :07:00. | :07:07. | |
the seats means that the Tories have got a real mountain to climb to | :07:08. | :07:15. | |
catch him anyway. So I think he has almost a steady as you go policy, | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
and that is what is worrying them. Even if they agree with the | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
strategy, what is worrying them is that they want to see more | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
connection, and I think they want to see more energy. Because connection | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
is all that you get from Nigel Farage. He is pure connection. | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
Trying to compare their man with what Nigel Farage give the | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
electorate has got them worried. Let's look at the pressure on the | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
prime minister on the inside of the Daily Mail, pressure in the form of | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
should the Conservatives do a deal with UKIP? The noises we are hearing | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
from the Conservatives is that there is no need for that and they are | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
going for an all`out win in a year's time. But how tempting would | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
it be to do that, just to make sure? Yes, yes. It was quite interesting | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
in the run`up to the election that the Tories seemed to have this | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
uprising outbreak of unity, which is very unfamiliar for them at the | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
moment. But in the face of this result, you noticed tonight the | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
first thing David Cameron is doing is talking about, we must look at | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
this, look at that, we must consider immigration. Again, the same theme, | :08:24. | :08:34. | |
he is trying to appease the idea that they have been upstaged by | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
UKIP. He is saying that he is not going to tack to the right, and most | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
of the commentators seem to think that he will not not yet. In the | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
immediate aftermath of an election, everyone gets skittish. We see | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
Labour getting skittish and criticising their leader. Already, | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
there are some Tories talking about doing a deal with UKIP. I don't | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
think they can. There are already some Lib Dem activists asking if | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
they are sure about Nick Clegg. There is an inevitability about it. | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
What will happen with the Conservative Party is that those | :09:09. | :09:10. | |
people who are thinking about the immediate future and those who are | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
thinking about the long`term future. In the immediate future he could do | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
a deal with UKIP and that might help in the next election. In the | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
long`term future, for the sort of voters that the Tories have to pick | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
up, and they have talked about needing minorities, more women, is | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
that going to be helped by a close association with UKIP? Probably not. | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
And there are dangers in extrapolating to national elections. | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
Absolutely. David Cameron and Ed Miliband are thinking tonight, it is | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
all going to go away, it won't make a difference when we are playing for | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
real. Damning report on universal credit | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
hushed up. The Government published its annual review into the progress | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
of 200 projects, representing ?400 billion of public spending, not | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
amongst them the damning internal assess am of universal credit. It | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
will not be ready on time. It's all very unrealistic, by the sounds of | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
it? Do you remember those happy days, not so long ago, when | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
"transparency" would be the watchword of the Government. They | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
have the evaluation, they tell us everything, apart from the bit we | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
need to know, which is what is happening with this universal credit | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
scheme. It's another ` there seem to be a succession of problems coming | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
out of DWP. Iain Duncan Smith keeps going to select committees or to the | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
House saying it's all going fine. Then something else leaks to give | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
you the impression that it's not going fine. Then you put alongside | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
the universal credit debacle, the universal job search website, that | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
has had problems too. You just wonder whether or not they've taken | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
off more than they chew, in terms of bringing these reforms through. They | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
don't seem to be able to drive them through efficiently. Are enormous | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
changes, is that all it is? Who knows. This story is extraordinary. | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
Who realised there was something called The Major Projects Authority. | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
You learn something new every night. The fact that Iain Duncan Smith is | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
kind of refusing to acknowledge the truth and sort of trying to deny the | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
inevitable and standing up and saying ` it's Allardyce right `` all | :11:29. | :11:37. | |
all right, I'm in charge. Now the FT. He did his sums wrong. They have | :11:38. | :11:55. | |
been looking at Piketty's sums. Has been flavour of the month for about | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
a month, I think. It might have been a bit longer. He's a, sort of, | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
described as the "rock star" French economist. He has ` he is the author | :12:06. | :12:14. | |
of a best seller book called Capital in the 21st Century. One of his main | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
arguments in the book is a calculation about the rise of | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
inequality. And, I believe that one of his main contentions is that | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
we're seeing levels of inequality now which have not been observed | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
since the First World War. And, this has been taken as, lorded as, you | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
know, revealing the central contradiction of capitalism. He has | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
been garlanded by Nobel Laureates all over the place. The FT did a | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
study, crunched the number against, and discovered that he actually has | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
it wrong. The numbers don't stack up ` No, they don't. The actual date | :12:59. | :13:07. | |
for the rise inequality hasn't been rising since 1970. George Osborne | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
will be pleased? It will be a problem. There will be people who | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
had a vested interest in undermining his case. It was probably the most | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
fullfronted assault on capitalist theory as we know it there has been | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
for some time. The FT have above the picture in large letters "Piketty | :13:26. | :13:33. | |
did his sum wrongs" in the text it says, "he appears to have his sums | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
wrong" that is very wise. Everybody will be checking his calculations | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
but the FT calculations. Their punches a little bit. That is it for | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
The Papers this hour. Sue and Hugh will be back with us at 11.30pm. | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
Stay with us on BBC News. At 11.00pm more on the local elections. More, I | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
hear you say! Yes, more. Coming up next, it's time for Sportsday. | :14:03. | :14:07. |