25/06/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

With me are the Political Editor of the Sunday Times, Tim Shipman,

the Political Editor of the Daily Express,

Caroline Wheeler and the London Editor of the Irish

An ad you have all had a busy few weeks. You cannot be shot of

exciting things to write. The leadership contest into political

parties and, who knows, we may have a general election. We are battered.

Stay at home. So let's take a look

at tomorrow's front pages. And Tories at War is

the Sunday Telegraph's headline. The paper says bitter infighting

has reached new heights Tories Battle to Stop Boris

is the Mail on Sunday's lead. The paper says a string of MPs

are lining up in the race to succeed Along the same lines,

The Sunday Times' top story headline reads Top Tories rush

to stop Boris bandwagon. The Observer says Britain is heading

into a period of unprecedented political, constitutional

and economic crisis' as European leaders put pressure on the UK

to act quickly. The Sunday Express outlines what it

says is a 'triple boost' to the UK We will start with the Observer.

Europe's leader demand to get out now. Angela Merkel was sounding

quite diplomatic. Meanwhile, other founding members are saying you

decided on this so you need to get a move on. We said we were to go so

they want is to go so they can stabilise as we seamlessly drift out

but it is not really going to happen that way and Angela Merkel

understand that and she does not want to totally alienate Britain and

she is waiving the olive branch. She's saying we do not have to rush

them and give them time to invoke Article 50 which is the legal

mechanism to Exeter. Nobody has ever used it before so it is an chartered

territory. It is all uncharted territory. It is down to Britain to

do it. And it does not make sense to do it when we are picking a new

Prime Minister. David Cameron has said to invoke Article 50 when we

have a new Prime Minister. Angela Merkel, it smacks of a guilt

complex. She denied freedom of movement as part of the Renee Gracie

is and that frankly looks like that is what put him in a tricky position

with the British public. She is trying to help her old mate out a

bit late in the day. One of your colleagues wrote Brexit is a

bewildering act of self harm. Is there anything positive you can see

about what the British have decided to do? Not from an Irish point of

view. Some people are clutching at straws about growth in jobs if the

city moves over their art it is all on the downside, economic league, it

diplomatically and it goes deeper in the sense that one of the happiest

things that has happened to Ireland has been improvement in the

relationship between Ireland and Britain and Irish people feel it

very deeply. The atmosphere is very relaxed. There is a slight unease

that something about that could change. That we would find ourselves

a little bit going in different directions whereas we had big coming

together -- being. It feels less to British people but to Irish people

might happen, for the first time we found ourselves meeting as equals at

international forums. Although we were the small country, nonetheless,

the Irish, felt after all the psychodrama from history, this was a

place where we could start in a different way. A lot of Irish

politicians and officials got to know British counterparts very well

and that helped with the process. Nobody would argue the European

project is perfect at what are the gripes from Ireland? In the Irish...

The last couple of years, after our financial crash, we got help from

the EU but with a lot of painful and unpleasant strings attached so the

Irish did see the cold and arrogant face of Europe very recently but,

having said that, for Island membership has always been

fundamentally regarded as something that has helped us and we have never

had the feeling as a lot of people in Britain have had that they did

not feeding. You are going to have a massive immigration problem with all

the Brits moving the island! They are very welcome. There is a bit of

a rush for anyone with Irish ancestry to get a passport. There

is, and there are complications. People from Northern Ireland can

choose to have both passports and the citizenships and that could be

interesting because it could raise a question that you could find

somebody from Bell asked who is both a system of U youth -- Belfast --

system of EU. Nothing seems to be straightforward but we like a

puzzle. The shadow cabinet backing the revolt to depose Jeremy Corbyn

but he says he's not going anywhere. This is becoming quite serious for

Jeremy Corbyn. There is going to be a vote of no confidence, probably on

Monday. It will be a secret ballot and there is every chance he could

lose that. He could still contest the leadership. We have heard a lot

of blood from the shadow cabinet, two thirds of them think their

leader is a more on and wants to get rid of him -- more on. A respected

figure ringing around saying, we really have to do this,... Even on

Friday, the shadow cabinet met and one of the great purposes was for

Jeremy Corbyn to say to them directly, due you still support me

and went around the table and no definitive answer came back. Yet

beforehand all these people were telling us he should go. This is now

changing things. Will it not come down to the fact that if he has

grassroot support his fine? In the long run but if you suffer a vote of

no confidence where two thirds of your MPs say they do not want you to

be the leader of the party, it does start to have an impact on the

grassroots. The biggest Roblin is, who will stand against him? He also

has a problem. Hillary Benn is actually approaching other members

saying it he does not go voluntarily will you resign? If he cannot master

enough people to serve, it would make his existence as leader fairly

futile. Top Tories rushed to stop the Boris bandwagon. A whole range

of people who might like to give it a well Bass absolutely. It will seem

it will be a wide field. You have five names? Five, six, who knows! It

surprises me about the life sciences Minister... This was my favourite

text message of the day. Normally, you are delighted when you get a

message from our politicians. He's telling me I have been urged to run

and we have an agenda to go after young people. I had no idea who he

was from. His number was not in my telephone so through a process of

elimination I figured out it was George Friedman. Nicky Morgan,

Stephen Crabb 's have spoken to the Sunday Times. Lynn Fox will have

another turn at it. Jeremy Hunt is also seriously considering it, we

are told. George Osborne we are have-nots heard from. But I do not

think anyone thinks he is a gallop. Never rule out de de. He is touting

around to see the can enough support. A wide field indeed in the

contest. You have been through this not so long ago, trying to make the

leadership stick. We have been trying to make the government stick!

We had a chaotic outcome in the last elections so Kenny is relying on an

assortment of diverse Independent members of Parliament and by the

good grace of the opposition party who can revoke their good grace

whenever they feel like it. It is touch and go. Do we think anybody

can stop Boris? That is the million-dollar question. The dream

team touted in the papers is I go up. Most people think it is going to

be Boris against Theresa May. The way it the rules were, the Tory MPs

select two members. In order to stop Boris, you need two people to get

more MPs support is and it is difficult to see a strong challenge.

And also, if you get into the final two, and it comes down to the

Conservative Party association where Boris on schemes is extremely

popular. Somebody will be doing some careful mathematics. You need 111

MPs. You need a third class of one. It is not matter what anybody else

gets. It is impressive. But it is interesting that one of the two

should be a woman. There is going to be an attempt on Monday by some MPs

who say one of them should be a woman. People see in this a plot. If

you have a round of voting with two women, the woman who finishes top

automatically finishes in. All the votes for example can then move into

the men race. I don't think this was very recent.

He is supposed to be playing cricket this afternoon. We didn't manage to

get any photographs. It is very carefully worded. I wouldn't like to

cast aspersions. Inside, the Brexit bombshell. The changing of the

guard. It has some lovely, coloured photographs. A number of people will

want to have a go at this, but they have a heck of a job on their hands.

They have. There is a view in Tory leadership election is that the

frontrunner doesn't win very often. In George Freeman's case, to

introduce himself to the party and the wider public. I am delighted to

see his missing from the Mail on Sunday's roster of potential

candidates. Only because it means you have written about it and they

haven't! It is the great revelation of the evening. There is some

suggestion that Torres is calling for other candidates not to run,

that there should be an automatic coronation that Boris should be

crowned king. All these people who are touting themselves, they are

indicating that they will run. I suspect what will happen is that

some of these people will do their ring round and find they haven't got

nearly enough support. Some people might think think 15 MPs is enough.

I spoke to a cabinet minister earlier who said the party is not in

the mood for a bunch of people with eight supporters and actually we

should just get on and have this contest. There is a feeling that

Stephen Pratt could get some momentum. Some people want to

support him to stop Waris. There is a strong feeling amongst some people

that there are two obvious big beasts. -- Boris. We should really

just get on and have a fight between Boris Johnson and Theresa May for

the crown. As is often the way, the Scottish Mail on Sunday has a

different front page. EU snubbed the Nicola Sturgeon. Secret Brussels

reports dashes SMP's hopes of staying in Europe. Should Scotland

be allowed to ignore the result of the referendum? They are still part

of the UK at the moment. If this result is supposed to be respected,

Scotland should respect it as well. It is the member states. As soon as

that changes, the situation changes. Article 50 has to be triggered.

There is a fantasy on the Leave side, but they can wait as long as

they like to triggered his Article 50. In theory they can but I think

they have this notion that they would have informal negotiations and

informal off the record talks, get the deal sorted out and then you

start the clock. What the Europeans are saying is, we were talked to do,

except in the context of this formal negotiations. What they are saying

the Nicola Sturgeon is, you are going to have to leave the UK and

apply as a new member state. That would mean a commitment to joining

Europe, the Schengen. It would mean all of those things. Having said

that, they say in the Scottish Mail on Sunday that it could take years.

They could probably do it quickly in Scotland, because it already has all

of the EU laws. So you wouldn't have to go through the process that

Turkey did, to choose a candidate at random. There is a suggestion from

constitutional experts that Northern Ireland and Scotland, because of how

devolution is legislated for, would make it very difficult for Britain

to enact the referendum. It is not my special subject but I read stuff

today to suggest that they could put a brake on this and suggest they

aren't going to do it if they don't like it. It is all very confusing,

but it is interesting that Nicola Sturgeon is trying to say, we would

effectively stay behind while the rest of Britain leaves. They are

saying, no, you can't do that. If Scotland rejoined and then was in

the Schengen zone are we there looking at rebuilding Hadrian's

Wall, because you would be having to talk about putting up orders? That

is a big question in Ireland again. Because part of it will be in

Europe, do you then direct borders again? That's the reason why in

Ireland what we would like would be that whatever deal is done is the

deal that keeps Britain is closely connected to the EU as possible. So

if that something like the Norwegian model, that could obviously keep

Scotland in. If you remember the other day Nicola Sturgeon said that

she wanted to make sure the key what Scotland's will was. -- to heed.

That was to remain in EU, especially single market. If you take the

single market problem off the table, then of course you do run into the

problem that you can't then control immigration, which was the central

promise of the referendum. There is another theory about when Article 50

gets triggered. I read something today, that there's a clause in one

of the treaties that suggests if David Cameron goes to the meeting

next week and so much as talks about British Brexit, the can say, you

have opened his talks with us now. You are effectively triggering

Article 50, whether you like it or not. And all of the Brexiteers would

then be thrown into chaos I imagine. The constitutional expert we spoke

to suggested there needs to be a more formal declaration of that. But

we are uncharted territory altogether. It is also the case that

European Union law, whatever leaders say it is -- is whatever leaders say

it is. So once they get in the room they can more or less decide what

they want to do or how they wish to interpret the treaty. The treaty is

worded in such a way that a member state informs the European Union

that it wishes to withdraw. Excerpts couldn't. The Vote Leave campaign

took it to the court in Luxembourg. -- except couldn't. And they used it

to get the result they needed. They could do that. I think we have gone

through the looking glass now. It just occurred to me! Before we move

on, one thing about orders, very quickly after the result came out in

the early hours of Friday morning, Thursday night, Friday morning, the

question of the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland came up

and some politicians were rushing to say, we don't want them to have to

have guards along the border. Nobody does. But during the campaign,

whenever anybody raised the Leave campaigners, including the Northern

Ireland secretary, they all said it would be fine, nothing to worry

about. You just wonder, how do they know? Obviously it's a question not

just for Britain and Ireland but also the EU, as to if you are

outside and the Irish Republic is inside. Certainly if you want to

stop immigration coming from the rest of the EU it is hard to see how

you don't do something to check who is coming in and out. Finally. We

have a couple of minutes to talk about this petition, which has been

launched, not that long ago. What did yesterday? Only yesterday. How

time sometimes doesn't fly... It is on the parliamentary website and it

is demanding a second referendum because the majority... There wasn't

a sufficient number of people who turned up to vote and therefore it

is not a sufficient number of people who voted in favour of leaving,

according to the text of this petition. It has, what, 2.5 million?

It has images at an alarming rate. Basically it hit about 100,000 in

the first few hours, which is the moment it triggers a debate in

Parliament. But to have hit 2.5 million within a day or so, for me

it feels like a week ago... I had to put one sentence of this in a

front-page story in the first filed the story it was 1.6 million. When

we went to press it was 2.1. Brian Tomkinson on Twitter says, why don't

you report the petition @ mostly by people who don't live in the UK? --

as mostly. Wasn't there another petition demanding that London

should become a citystate? There was an interesting map of this view was

signing it adware. It was primarily in London, Brighton, Oxford,

Cambridge. -- and where. A cosmopolitan story. It is

interesting. It will get interesting when 80 million sign it and that's

more for the people who voted for Brexit. -- 18 William. Here is the

map. Thank you to whoever is directing the night! It is even

being moved around, so you can look. London is dark red. That means a lot

of people have signed it. Oxford apparently, Bristol, maybe Brighton.

Yes. They are the places that are signing at a furious rate. But it

won't make any difference. Not if we care about democracy. 70 million

people... It feels like six months of campaigning and wall-to-wall news

coverage. It is slightly indicative of some people who perhaps got a bit

of a buzz. There is a guy in my office who voted for Brexit and

today he said, economic meltdown does seem a bit worse than I was

expecting. Yesterday he was complaining about Project Fear. He

heard all of the warnings and didn't think that some of them would come

true. Did you see the story about Google? The most common question

asked on Google over the last couple of days is, what is the EU? After

the referendum. Vote now, search later. Why do any of us bother? Read

a paper! Make it the Irish times! The Sunday Times. Thank you, all.

Try to get some rest. Lovely to have you. That's it. The weather is next.