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Welcome to our look at head to the poll that -- look ahead to the


papers tomorrow. It feels like we should be having a dinner party


there are so many others here. We don't have long, but we'll be back


again at 11:30pm. Let's start with the mail on Sunday. Five rivals to


fight Boris for number ten. Only five? Only five! If you read the


Sunday Times tomorrow there are six, maybe seven. We are inundated with


people who want to lead the nation. I suppose we should be flattered.


Theresa May, Jeremy Hunt, fresh from his doctors strike, Nicky Morgan.


I'm told George Freeman will toss his hat into the ring, too. What a


smorgasbord of fun we are awaiting. Everyone quickly googles. We can't


find some of the key players. Nobody has seen George Osborne, but Boris


Johnson has been out in his whites. At one point we thought George


Osborne was a shoo-in to be next Prime Minister, but after a few


hiccups with the Budget and now the referendum campaign where he made


some harsh warnings that upset a lot of people in its party, and


so-called project fear, he seems to have disappeared and nobody can find


him. There is some suggestion that his leadership hopes aren't totally


dead and he might be ringing round MPs to see if he has a chance of


getting onto the ballot paper. The new dictionary definition of


optimistic. Douglas, we haven't had you here and we are very glad for


you to give the Irish perspective. How is this being viewed in Dublin?


Very gloomily. It was a shock. The Irish covenant had been openly


campaigning for a Remain vote and people are worried. People are


worried about the economic hit, which is automatic. And then worries


about the future of the border and the future of the relationship


between Ireland and Britain. As far as the economy is concerned, that


didn't seem to be necessarily quite what everybody was worried about. We


know immigration was important. How much of an issue is immigration from


the EU for Ireland? It's not an issue at all. Ireland, like Britain


and Sweden in 2004, also agreed to allow all the new member states, as


many as wished, straightaway. A huge number did come to Ireland. About


17% in Ireland today were born outside the country, but there has


not really been any major social problem and there is no


anti-immigration party in Ireland. Let's look at the Sunday Telegraph.


2 million is a lot, but nothing in comparison with the 17 million who


said they wanted us to leave the EU. It's a fairly short space of time to


garner 2 million signatures. Most of the biggest Ibra editions have been


a million at most so it's a fairly big number. As you say, it won't


change anything. The time it starts getting interesting is if you start


hitting 17 million. Many people would still say the referendum


stands. It's not going to make a difference. This is it. We still


keep talking about the status of this result. It's not binding, its


advisory. It would be a brave government that overturned it. If


you mean brave -- by brave, suicidal, yes. It just won't happen.


Signing up 3000 people a minute, good for them. If it did get 18


million, that would be interesting. Some of the context of what happens


next in terms of the deal and what we are expecting from the


negotiation may be framed by the public reaction to what's going on


with the economic problems and what appears to be a serious case of


buyers remorse setting in with some people over the way they voted, but


in practice, this is the biggest democratic enterprise in this


country since 1992. It's pretty hard to see any credible political party


trying to overturn it and survive as a government. It's very interesting.


We are in uncharted territory with Article 50. When referendums have


not gone the way that people have wanted in Ireland, they have just


held them again. That's happened twice. It happened to the Danes over


Maastricht. What happens is the mood changes. You do have buyers remorse.


A lot of people who didn't go out to vote the first time to go out the


second time and you sometimes come back with some kind of


renegotiation. With this one, nobody knows exactly what the referendum


means. They know people voted to leave the EU, but they don't know in


what way, what kind of relationship they will be in the future. That's


the area where it could become very, very interesting. Even if Britain


doesn't decide to overturn the referendum outcome, it could end up


being a different situation to the one a lot of people who voted Leave


expected. There are a lot of reasons people like giving us for them


wanting to leave. It might be to do with sovereignty, not feeling we


have to listen to this remote place called Brussels any longer, and we


get better democracy back. That's what a lot of people say. In


constitutional terms, there are all sorts of ways it could work out. We


were talking to Toby Young last night and he was saying we could


have associate membership, which has been talked about. A lot of people


think what we would always end up with was a associate membership. The


referendum has decided we'll have that outside the EU rather than in


it. The negotiations we are about to have in some ways will be like what


we might have ended up with if we'd stayed in and things had gradually


changed over a couple of years. There's a lot of evidence other EU


countries might start to think about freedom of movement as well. It's


also what we are able to negotiate with the other 27 members. That's


right. It's difficult because we've had this shock result and everybody


is bracing themselves and thinking what does it mean and where do we go


next? We will get some clarity on the planned on Monday when I guessed


David Cameron will give a statement to Parliament about what happens


next. There is a suggestion about do we invoke Article 50 or through an


act of Parliament. At the same time we're having pressure put on us by


the other European leaders to get on with it and the question remains


about what the wiggle room will be. And who cares what David Cameron


thinks? If Boris Johnson Michael Gove disagree with David Cameron,


who is now in charge? What happens when Boris Johnson and Michael Gove


disagree with each other? That's what we'll see in the coming months.


We must look at the Observer and think about what's happening with


Labour. Hilary Benn seeks to depose Corbyn. Jeremy Corbyn has said he


would stand again. That's the problem Labour faces. Unless Jeremy


Corbyn walks away, it's difficult to get rid of him because ultimately


the party rules state that if there is a vote of no confidence, he can


go back on the ballot paper and he will just do that and win again. He


said that emphatically this morning. Who wants to stand against him? We


might have a general election in the next year and if you're the Labour


Party candidate, you'll probably get massacred. If you want to lead


Labour, you're probably better off waiting for Corbyn to lose the


general election and come in afterwards. Any shuddering in the


Taoiseach? They are shuddering. He's been shuddering more less all year


because your most lost the last election and is just about hanging


on. It hasn't been straightforward. With all of this stuff, a lot of the


Europeans would like this thing to move very, very quickly. The French


Foreign Minister said he wanted David Cameron out within days and


doesn't see what everybody is hanging about four. I think there


will be pressure to move things as quickly as possible. That's it for


the moment. We'll be back for another look at the papers at


11:30pm for now, thank you all very much indeed. It's time for the


weather. Hello. It was a very lively start


the weekend for many parts of the UK. The radar sequence


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