10/07/2016 The Papers

that he lacks a great deal of support from his members. We are

going to move on to the papers. Hello and welcome to our Sunday

morning edition of The Papers. With me are journalist

Lucy Cavendish, and Ian Birrell, Contributing Editor

of the Mail on Sunday . The Observer says that Labour has

been plunged into its "greatest crisis for generations"

as a leadership bid was launched The Telegraph claims that

Theresa May's most senior allies have gone to war

against Andrea Leadsom in retaliation for her

comments on motherhood. The Sunday Times also goes

for the same story and says that 20 Tory MPs 'would quit party'

if Mrs Leadsom were to win The Sunday Express also

covers her controversial comments, saying that mothers have rounded

on Andrea Leadsom and accused her of "weaponising" parenthood

in her fight to become Prime The Mail on Sunday reports that

Sir Cliff Richard has launched a ?1 million law suit over the BBC's

broadcast of the police The Sunday Mirror splashes on news

that the former Labour Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott now believes

that Tony Blair illegally led Let's begin with the Labour Party,

we've been hearing about Jeremy Corbyn, Labour Angela Eagle wants

bid to print an Corbyn. They are living in a parallel universe, I

spent the entire week thinking politicians have lost touch with

what is going on. Actually, it's all rather egocentric. -- Jeremy Corbyn.

He seems to have no idea of what is actually going on, 63 of his Cabinet

resigns, he hasn't got able to full spaces, Angela Eagle is going to

come out and I think it's a disaster and the Labour Party will split and

who knows what will come out of that? They have lost Scotland, they

don't have enough to have Parliamentary majority in an

election, I can't understand how he hasn't resigned, just as a matter of

principle. A sort of veteran Labour Party members said privately to me

last week, there are people within the Labour Party who never trusted

the way Parliament works, they are looking to the grassroots, they are

getting extra support, it could be a disaster but they are getting more

members. That is a key point. I think Corbyn is unelectable, he has

lost the support of his party but he has increased membership to have a

million people. The Tories got 140,000 people, to put that in

perspective, we saw the debate about the Iraq war, the modernisers

screwed up the middle east in their rush to war. Corbyn was on the right

side of that, yes, he is a lamentable Labour leader, the party

is two factions which it seems impossible to knit together. They

are providing no opposition and yes, they have lost great swathes of the

country, probably the North as well as Scotland. But against that, there

is a case to be made for Corbyn and it's only a year since the

membership let them against the Parliamentary party which they solve

as out of touch with the needs of the country. It is easy to attack

him and I attack on a lot like any other political commentator because

he does appear to be a total loser when it comes to winning an election

but against that, he does have the support... The problem is the party

system which nets factions that have nothing in common together and what

we need to see, as with the Conservatives, is a shattering of

the traditional tribal loyalties. You don't get that in the first past

the post system usually because if any of the parties split, the other

party will do better in first past the post. What you say is right, he

is unelectable and the Labour Party note that he is unelectable and yes,

of course, he has put on members and that's an interesting point,

fascinating why that has happened, to a certain extent I think it's a

protest against what people see as a set of politicians who are out of

touch and in a way, to certain younger people, he looks oddly in

touch even all I think he isn't. There has been no opposition at all,

I'm a Labour Party supporter and I don't support him, he says I have

done this and done that, I cannot believe he thinks that's actually...

He said on the programme we must unite to put enormous pressure on

the story government. They are not in any way United. The Tories are

united, they are not united. Clearly one of the problems is he was

appalling during the Brexit campaign, you felt his heart wasn't

in it, the forces of darkness were unleashed by this campaign and he

basically allowed a lot of the vote on the left to side with the Ukip

tendency and vote for Brexit and I think that is why a lot of the young

people who flock to his side, some of them feel disenchanted because of

this pathetic performance. We will, to the Tories in a moment, let's

take a step back into our history, Lehrer forced us into an illegal war

is the splash on the Sunday Berrer, John Prescott saying I supported the

war at the time but I now think it's illegal. Quite a statement! It's

blindingly obvious statement because the Chilcott Report has come out and

said it was illegal. Most people with half a brain at the time could

have seen that and meddling in the Middle East when there was no exit

plan, no idea what was going to happen, is not a good idea. The fact

that Escott has come up now, it's too late, I'm terribly sorry and

sorry for the people who lost loved ones. -- Prescott. It shattered Iraq

and Syria. Why didn't he do something at the time, silly man?

It's a prime example by people have lost faith in politics, I was Deputy

Editor of the independent throughout this period which was quite a lonely

voice and was pointing out a lot of the flaws which emerged in Chilcott.

Because Prescott kept quiet, he claims to have seen the fact that

there was so for government going on, not enough discussion and after

Chilcott provides cover while he is touring the world on Cunard telling

funny anecdotes about his affairs, only now is he having the bottle to

come out and say something. The reality is that he done something at

the time, Britain might not have gone down this road and there might

have been a different outcome to history at the result, as I have

seen working in places like Iraq and Syria is the shattering of the

Middle East with dire consequences for the world, of course, he is

happy getting paid for his column by the Sunday murder and he cries

crocodile tears. Let's move on to the future, the Sunday Telegraph,

Tory women turned against let's... What do you make of the row and it

was described as gutter journalism. That is absolute nonsense, there is

all sorts on this and I could go on but I bought but what irritates me

is that no man stands up and said I should lead the party because I am a

father and no one questions men on whether they do or don't have

children so it's incredibly annoying to women to have this as the

centrepoint of whoever is going to be elected. The leader of the Tory

party, who will look our country is Prime Minister, that irritating. The

journalist who did the interview, this is an experienced politician,

she has done interviews before, she cannot be a complete idiot and not

know what she is saying. It is recorded on tape, she used that as

something to use leveraged against a reason me and that is appalling, to

actually question someone about whether they do or don't have

children. It absolutely... The comments that are guttersnipe, not

the fact it was reported. It was reported in good faith, it's

recorded, it is on tape, you cannot argue against that. It is certainly

a story you would have run. Of course you would, it's interesting,

2002 reason they made her name by pointing out the Tories were

perceived in some quarters as the nasty party, since then David

Cameron has tried to turn that for Tehran to a large extent on I with

him on some of that but it's like on the alert is trying to reinvent the

nasty party. -- to turn that around. It's amazing to think she did not

know that would happen. The express has the same thing... Broadly, the

papers support that Conservative Party... But the electorate for the

selection who will give us the next Prime Minister is not the general

electorate, it is smaller. People have a very dim view of this

electorate but in the heart of it, these are decent people who believe

in Britain, certain values, those values are not attacking a woman who

cannot have children and says she is sad about not having children, what

we see, I hope, the meltdown of the angry let's campaign, she has been

foisted on the leadership by Anne small-group of right-wingers, they

are trying to get someone who is clearly inadequate for the job on

the idea that at a time of crisis for the country, regardless of your

views on Brexit, the country needs to be reunited, we need to work

either position with Europe and the world, the idea that this woman who

has a flaky CV and appears to be nasty, the only thing she has said

of any interest is attacking same-sex marriage. The idea that she

is the answer to the country's problems is... She is supported by

quite a number of Conservative MPs, clearly has a basis of support, we

have to see what the members think but we talk about labour divisions

on the possibility of a split, the same thing is true of the

Conservatives, whatever the divisions they are bound to call

here because the electoral system or penalised them seriously if they

don't. I think they will and I think, as you said, there is a cabal

of right-wingers who want in place and I don't think that will happen,

I think Theresa May will get broad support and it will be a steadying

decision. I am not a ticket but actually, what will happen is that

we'll actually steady the Tory party in a way that the Labour Party

cannot steadied. The Sunday Times has it, some people floating ideas

about a realignment of the centre, between those who are probably

nationalistic and globalist, others say it's between optimism and

pessimism, I wonder whether you see a realignment as being possible?

I've written about these divisions, we have seen them across the West

through Austria to the United States. There is a division between

optimists who tend to be globalist and more open-minded and pessimist

to be fearful and isolationist and isolationist and that is the big

division and that is cracking open the parties. It is certainly

possible and a lot of talk, I have heard from moderate conservatives,

you see it in the Sunday Times, foundry lets us elected leader there

might be further talk about a realignment of politics. I think

it's possible and it's just a problem as to how did these

divisions go, how consensual the approaches or to resolve them and

whether the two party system can sustain in the modern age. I have

long thought it's not suited but at the same time, there is a problem

with proportional representation, we've just seen countries like

Spain, Ireland and Belgium gone once the Saudi government. -- go with

Alta government. The only positive thing I can think of, all does this

chaos something you could emerge. I actually don't feel I have anyone I

want to vote for and that's not a great place to be. Indeed, thank you

both are much. That is it for the papers, are thanks to our reviewers,

Ian and Lucy. We will take a look at tomorrow's front pages every evening

attended the PM and 11:30pm on BBC News. -- at 10:30pm.

I am afraid there is still no sign of any prolonged, settled dry and

sunny weather but today, a cloudy day with outbreaks of rain, feeling

quite humid if you are out and