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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers. | :00:14. | :00:15. | |
With me are the author and journalist Matthew | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
Green and Josie Delap, Home Affairs Correspondent | :00:19. | :00:20. | |
Today's front pages: The Observer leads on turmoil for Donald Trump, | :00:21. | :00:28. | |
as key Republicans withdraw their support after a tape | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
emerged of him making lewd remarks about women. | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
The Sunday Mirror has a special report on the war in Syria, | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
focussing on the story of one little girl whose family has been torn | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
The Mail on Sunday slams what it calls "vulture lawyers", | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
pursuing medical negligence cases against the NHS totalling more | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
In the Sunday Times, a former aide to David Cameron hits | :00:53. | :01:01. | |
out against Theresa May's plans to make companies reveal | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
their number of foreign employees, calling the idea "repugnant". | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
The Sunday Telegraph has news of a "pensions revolution", | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
with savers to be allowed to invest in government | :01:10. | :01:11. | |
And the Sunday Express writes that a "digital" border could be used | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
to curb EU migrants under new plans by the government. | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
There is plenty in the papers this morning. A lot of Donald Trump | :01:19. | :01:35. | |
dominating the headlines. These are all stories about Donald Trump | :01:36. | :01:41. | |
Smucker recorded stories from ten or 11 years ago, about women that he | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
had tried to force his charms upon and failed. These comments are | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
shocking, they are horrible, but they are not at all surprising | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
because they fit with the comments Donald Trump has made in public | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
about women before. Not only about women. No, and what is really | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
striking about this is that this has been the breaking point for a lot of | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
Republicans to come out against him. It is the idea that their daughters, | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
their wives, could be subject to these kinds of comments. The | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
previous, is he has made about Mexicans and Muslims have not been | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
enough to push them, but once it gets a little bit closer to home, | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
that has done it. Matthew, do you think this will be the thing that is | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
his downfall? It does feel a little bit like the lightning bolt that we | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
have all been waiting for. It is almost as if the arm of karma has | :02:35. | :02:41. | |
almost levelled him. There is a sense from the states that this | :02:42. | :02:45. | |
could almost be it. This incredible haemorrhage of senior Republicans, | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
all lining up, realising which way the tide is turning and jumping | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
ship. It does have the feel of a bit of a horror film, in that sense of | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
we have banished the beast, but suddenly in the final minutes, it | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
comes back. It is too early to relax, but this could be the end of | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
Donald Trump. He says he is not standing down, but even if he does | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
it is too late because the ballot has already begun. Exactly, the | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
papers have been printed with his name on and people have started | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
voting already. Some people have said they will be writing in his | :03:24. | :03:32. | |
vice president's candidate name on the ticket, but it is hard to see | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
how they could get rid of him. Legally that would be a nightmare, | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
and he has insisted he will not stand down. At the end of the day, | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
they chose him. Absolutely, and there are still a lot of people who | :03:46. | :03:48. | |
support him, and a lot of people don't feel this is sufficient to | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
make them vote for a Hillary Clinton, who is widely disliked. I | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
think the real question will be whether white women, particularly | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
those without college degrees, whether this will be enough to turn | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
them against Trump. He has alienated so many groups of people, he has to | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
win that vote overwhelmingly. The second debate is overnight tonight, | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
I think we are all looking to see whether Trump will break his promise | :04:19. | :04:25. | |
and start to talk about Bill. This is it, how low will he go? Judging | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
by what we have seen so far, pretty low. Again, the political climate is | :04:30. | :04:37. | |
so polarised in the US, and that is something that even reading about | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
it, watching it on TV, it is difficult to grasp quite how wide | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
the Gulf is. It is almost as if it doesn't matter what he says or does, | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
too certainly his hard-core base. What is said in the debate now | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
probably won't swing very many votes. Are we seeing a political | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
trend across the world? Yes, absolutely. People rejecting the | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
establishment, of people feeling that globalisation in the more open | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
world that we have come to see as quite normal has not benefited them, | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
people who perhaps whose skills are no longer quite as applicable in the | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
changing workforce. I think this is very close to a lot of the feelings | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
that people have about Brexit, and feelings in other European countries | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
where more right-wing parties who are against immigration are becoming | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
more popular. Yes, and it is easy to get so caught up in the lyric | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
details of the characters of these almost cartoonlike, that we forget | :05:37. | :05:45. | |
that there are these swathes of people who do feel that they have | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
been failed by the system, and the kind of psychology that Trump is | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
exhibiting is resonating with huge rubbers of people. It is something | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
we do need to be looking at. He keeps having these disasters that | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
you think are finally going to sell him, and yet he keeps coming back. I | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
think that is because he represents something different from this | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
political establishment that so many people feel has failed them. I am | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
going to put you both on the spot. Will he win? Probably not. Is there | :06:16. | :06:22. | |
a danger that by somehow saying he won't win... I am not going to say | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
anything! You are on the fence. We will come back to that after the | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
election. Let's move on to the Times and an | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
interesting story. This is a stinging letter from Steve Hilton, | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
the former policy chief at number ten under David Cameron in response | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
to Theresa May and Amber Rudd's comments at the Tory party | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
conference about foreign workers needing to be registered, or firms | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
needing to list their number is of foreign workers. He has come out | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
raging against the devices, repugnant and insanely Eurocrat it | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
ideas that the Conservatives are putting forward at the moment. He | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
described Theresa May's proposals as incompetent and irresponsible. He is | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
not holding back on is he? He says it seems there is a darkness at the | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
heart of Theresa May's government, which could leave a lasting stain on | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
the Tory party. This is a very difficult area, isn't it? Particular | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
in the wake of the Brexit vote. How do you sort it out, but sort it out | :07:28. | :07:34. | |
in a way that will suit everybody? Unless you can perform some sort of | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
mysterious process of turning lead into gold, that isn't going to | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
happen. There is not an easy outcome for this. Does an article like this | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
make any difference at the end of the day? I am not sure it does, but | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
he raises interesting point in it. He says that everybody is now | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
talking about hard Brexit against soft Brexit. He campaigned to leave | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
the EU, so it is particularly striking that he is responding so | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
harshly to their proposals. But his point is that we should not be | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
talking about a hard or soft Brexit, but rather an open or a closed | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
Britain. He thinks you could have a version of leaving the EU which | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
still said Britain is open for business, we want to trade with the | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
rest of the world, we want the best and brightest immigrants into | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
Britain, we want to stay part of this globalised economy and world. | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
We want everything. Indeed, and as has been said... It reflects that | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
wider fear that in some ways we saw out of the tone that was struck at | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
the Conservative Party conference last week, it was very much aimed at | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
a particular segment of the Conservative Party, and there is a | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
fear that with this huge, historical moment for Britain, essentially we | :08:51. | :08:52. | |
have a leadership that is pandering to a narrow party political base at | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
the expense of the national interest. I think that is what | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
Stephen Hilton, as a former adviser to David Cameron, is really | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
hammering home. He realises how damaging this can be in terms of the | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
negotiation because it really riled up the European leaders who think | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
why should we make Britain's exit any easier? The Mail on Sunday on | :09:13. | :09:19. | |
page five, Hammond's fears of able in a china shop behaviour of the | :09:20. | :09:27. | |
three Brexit ears. This is a chance for Philip Hammond, he is clearly at | :09:28. | :09:35. | |
war with his colleagues, Davids, forest and Fox. He sees them | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
behaving as a collective bull in a china shop, wrecking our chances of | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
negotiating a graceful exit through inflammatory statements and | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
aggressive remarks. Clearly, there is a big divide in the Cabinet, | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
there is no doubt about that. Frankly, who is going to disagree | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
with him? We have seen these sorts of statements coming out of these | :09:59. | :10:01. | |
politicians, Boris talking about having the cake and eating it. In | :10:02. | :10:08. | |
other words, squaring access to the single market, whilst still | :10:09. | :10:10. | |
controlling immigration, something which European leaders won't accept. | :10:11. | :10:18. | |
There is a sense that a part of the Cabinet has succumbed to a kind of | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
entrance and, almost magical thinking, about what might be | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
politically possible, which anyone who is observing this from a wider | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
perspective is able to see this will run into a hard reality. Philip | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
Hammond is interesting because he is pushing the point that, while | :10:36. | :10:37. | |
Britain may have voted for Brexit, or at least a portion of Britain | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
they did for it, what they did not vote for was to become poorer and to | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
have their lives made harder by this. What seems very clear from a | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
lot of the proposals that the Brexiteers are pushing for is that | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
that is exactly what would happen, and he is trying to retain their | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
thinking, rather than this pie in the sky thought that we can have all | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
the pie, all the cake, and no one. As on anything. Interestingly, the | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
way it is panning out politically within the parties, and the division | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
is really being laid bare. It raises the question of whether the party is | :11:14. | :11:20. | |
going to be capable of navigating the path ahead. This monumentally | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
complex, fraught exercise, with so many layers, so many complexities. | :11:26. | :11:34. | |
Just as the starting gun is being fired, this level of acrimony and | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
division within the Cabinet does not bode well. While we are talking | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
about Brexit, let's talk a bit more about it and go to the Observer. | :11:43. | :11:52. | |
This is a story that there is a cross-party group of MPs who are | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
saying that Britain might have voted yes to leave the EU in the | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
referendum, but that Parliament should not be shut out of this | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
process, and that there should be a vote going forward as we negotiate | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
the terms of that deal. This really does, this is one of the difficult | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
questions in all of the Brexit negotiations, the extent to which | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
Parliament should have a say on the terms to which we should leave, | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
whether the Prime Minister can simply trigger Article 50 and then | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
go her own way, and this is a very knotty question, British democracy | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
and that it is the four MPs, and how much they respond to their voter's | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
concerns. We seem to have a lot of questions at the moment! Yes, | :12:34. | :12:39. | |
exactly. This is obviously going to be what we talk about for the next | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
five years, minimum. It goes back to the question of democracy. There was | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
the referendum, but in the Conservative manifesto there is a | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
commitment to the single market, so how do you square those two outcomes | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
question mark it also raises a question for MPs. There are lots of | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
MPs who don't think that we should leave the EU. Or, at least, who | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
think that if we do we should do it in the most minimal way. They think | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
that would be the best possible deal for Britain. But they have voters | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
who don't agree with them, and it raises a question for MPs, to what | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
extent do you simply respond to voters concerned and do what they | :13:18. | :13:20. | |
are telling you to do, even if it seems to be not in their best | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
interests, and to what extent do you have to stand up and say you have | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
elected me to make the decisions on your behalf, and actually I don't | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
think this is the right thing to do. Also, one of the interesting parts | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
of the whole story, particularly over the last week, comets coming | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
from other European leaders, that is being focused on Britain at the | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
moment. Absolutely, the EU is an organisation that faces a lot of | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
challenges at the moment, and has over recent years. It is hard to | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
imagine that they would want Britain to leave the EU in a storm of glory | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
and have a fantastic situation outside the EU, when there are so | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
many divisions with other countries. I read one comment this week which | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
said what sort of organisation is it that bullies and one who decides | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
they don't want to be in it any more? Yes, exactly. Officials have | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
become very clear, the tone has hardened measurably from Brussels | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
and other European capitals since the Conservative Party conference, | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
they want to make us pay. We keep hearing from the Brexit side that | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
they need our market, they have got to cut as a deal, but at the end of | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
the day, we export 50% of our exports to the EU, and they export | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
less than 10% to us, so our hand is not as strong as some of the ten | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
three macros in the Cabinet may wish. | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
Right, let's move from Brexit to Syria. | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
The mirror, and this story from Syria. The pictures coming out of | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
Syria at the moment are just horrendous. Yes, we have become so | :14:57. | :15:06. | |
immersed in politics that this story on it is a once in a generation | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
story in a sense of what is happening in Aleppo at the moment, | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
it is just sitting in the inside pages... It is a victim of being | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
around for a long time, five years or more, and it is a story that is | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
constantly around. What is happening in Aleppo now is on another scale. | :15:28. | :15:35. | |
Russia has essentially repeated what it did in the early 90s, smashing | :15:36. | :15:38. | |
civilian neighbourhoods with air strikes. Smashing them into | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
submission with no respect for any proportionality or rules of war, and | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
getting away with it. And nobody seeming to have a solution. No, and | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
I wonder if that is part of why we have seen, whether it is coverage go | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
down, or actual political talk about Syria quietened down because it | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
feels like such a hopeless story, and the idea of coming to any | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
solution, we had a ceasefire but that collapsed within days of aid | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
workers being killed. It seems so impossible. Five years ago we were | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
talking about removing President Assad, but he is still there, he has | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
got a lot of support, and it is the civilians who are suffering. Yes, | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
and we are locked into this wider escalation of conflict with Russia, | :16:32. | :16:38. | |
and all across the West now we have this revelation in the US just | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
yesterday that the government has been accusing the Russians of | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
hacking e-mails and trying to manipulate the election. We have | :16:47. | :16:52. | |
seen all kinds of propaganda campaigns launched by the Russian | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
government in Western countries. There is something very sinister | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
taking place, and in Aleppo we are seeing the sharpest end. Not to | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
bring it back to trump again, but the horizontal Syria and the | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
intractability of the conflict and the complexities of it just remind | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
you what an extraordinarily important decision it is as to who | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
is president of America, because the foreign policy is one area in which | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
the president does have a lot of power. Dealing with this kind of | :17:22. | :17:23. | |
conflict is what we are talking about. Interesting to see. Let's go | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
to the final paper, it is page five of the Times. Rising sea levels are | :17:30. | :17:37. | |
turning mounted into hills. What is happening? This is supposed to be a | :17:38. | :17:47. | |
light story now, but rising sea levels are forcing some surveys to | :17:48. | :17:55. | |
consider reducing smaller mountains to hill status. What is the cut-off? | :17:56. | :18:11. | |
2000 feet, apparently. It includes some in Scotland and Wales, so we | :18:12. | :18:14. | |
could see this recalibration. Which for hill walkers who want to tick | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
off all of those in Scotland and England and Wales, this will really | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
affect their tally. Not wanting to put a dampener on the programme as | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
we draw an end to the show, but the chief scientist has warned that this | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
year has had the hottest ten bridges for 150,000 years. Dash-macro | :18:37. | :18:38. | |
hottest temperatures. We have a global crisis. We might all be | :18:39. | :18:45. | |
living on top of these hills at some point. Newspapers treat climate | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
change as a nice white story to have a smile about, but anyone who reads | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
the report on this needs to be terrified. We are behind the sofa | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
now on that one. Thank you both very much. Thank you to our guests, and | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
don't forget, during the week we look at the front pages at 10:40pm | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
here on BC news. Goodbye. Hello, still no great dramas to | :19:09. | :19:24. | |
report about the British Isles | :19:25. | :19:26. |