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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
With me are Lucy Fisher, senior political correspondent | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
for the Times, and commentator Henry Bonsu. | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
Tomorrow's front pages: The Telegraph leads | :00:26. | :00:27. | |
The paper says the prime suspect for the massacre was under covert | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
surveillance for months as a possible terrorist, | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
but police let him slip through their grasp | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
Anis Amri stares from the front of the Metro. | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
He is now said to be the most wanted man in Europe. | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
The Times says the authorities suspected Amri of preparing | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
a serious crime, endangering national safety, but red tape | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
The i says the German authorities are under pressure after a series | :00:52. | :01:00. | |
of blunders in their hunt for the killer. | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
The FT pictures some of the suspect's different identities. | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
Its main story is that the world's oldest bank is to be rescued | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
The Guardian says Amri was known to multiple | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
And the Sun has a pun on the Queen's cold. | :01:16. | :01:23. | |
Throne a sickie... It is actually quite good, that one. It is actually | :01:24. | :01:36. | |
quite good. But we are going to discuss it a little bit later on. | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
The Berlin massacre suspect was watched for months, on the front | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
page of the Times. We now know a hell of a lot about this guy. A lot | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
coming through compared to what we discussed in the last hour. We found | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
out he was put under surveillance in March earlier this year by German | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
prosecutors, but they abandoned the surveillance after about six months | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
because they decided that although they found out that he planned to | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
break in, taking money for automatic weapons to do one of those roving | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
massacres, when they put him under close surveillance the measures | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
produced no evidence to justify, in their view, any further expenditure | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
and further man-hours. They abandoned it. The same thing | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
happened with the French attackers last year. Initially they came to | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
the notice of authorities and were put under surveillance but then | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
eventually they couldn't justify monitoring them any more. Other | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
things which have emerged, the man's father, Anis Amri, has described him | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
as a violent, drugtaking adolescent and we found out he was in jail in | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
Italy for setting fire to an asylum centre, an immigrant migration | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
Centre. So this picture has emerged of a guy... The classic, you could | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
say, a guy who has left his country, Tunisia, he has come into the | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
European Union and come to the notice of authorities and been put | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
under surveillance. He has done things which may in some | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
jurisdictions have justified and arrest or possibly a trial, but in | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
Italy and then Germany he seems to have moved on and got into the wider | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
community. But clearly he has got a history of crime. A lot of issues | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
there. The authorities in Germany wanted to deport him, even though | :03:26. | :03:28. | |
they couldn't stick the label of terrorist on him, because they kept | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
him under surveillance, they didn't find enough evidence. They wanted to | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
get rid of him but couldn't because the documentation wasn't there. That | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
is what it seems to be. It's extraordinary to find out today that | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
just 44 hours after this atrocity the passport arrived from the | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
Tunisian authorities, which meant the German authorities could have | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
sent him back. I think terror attacks like these throw out these | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
questions between the limits between liberalism, respect for the rule of | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
law and the desire to perhaps be more authoritarian, push measures | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
through and ride roughshod over that. Everyone needs to take a deep | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
breath and a step back a bit. While we are taking a deep rest, we have | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
to look at police procedure. Certainly, and why he was let go and | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
that doubt. Two the police talk about these gold and 24 hours after | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
an incident, and it appears they missed his temporary German | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
resident's permit, in the foot well of the lorry, for 24 hours. And | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
there are forensics all the way around the Christmas market and as a | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
result they pointed the finger at the wrong guy for 24 hours, adding | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
this guy the head start. On the Financial Times, this is a guy who | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
knows how to hide, so even though there is an arrest warrant out for | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
him, Europe wide, wanted Europe wide, with many faces, the thing is, | :04:52. | :04:58. | |
he has got many faces. He knows how to hide, the sky. It is | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
extraordinary looking at these four different mugshots. In some he has | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
put on weight, he seems to be screwing up his eyes, and he has six | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
different names, has posed as a Lebanese national, an Egyptian, as | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
well as Tunisian. In a way he seems to be the perfect criminal. A | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
history of petty crime, violence, drugtaking, as his father said, he | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
also has these bigger connections, to jihadis and Islamic leaders as | :05:29. | :05:41. | |
well. He can do anything now, maybe slimming his face, and this will be | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
a real test of the German authorities. How well do they know | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
their minority communities, their Islamic communities? They will need | :05:52. | :05:57. | |
human intelligence. If he is still in Germany. All the countries | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
bordering Germany, they will co-operate with Germany, and we have | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
Euro poll in the free movement of goods, services and people. Shang | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
will problem we eat toast in a few years time -- Schengen. They need | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
human intelligence to find out where guy is. There will be someone who | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
knows him. That is part of the argument about surveillance in this | :06:23. | :06:29. | |
country, in that there is a sense that the police have more contacts | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
within different communities and there is more of a willingness | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
within communities within this country to turn someone in, whereas | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
that link between officers and the public is not as deep, not there as | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
much, in places like France or Belgium, or indeed Germany. I think | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
that is certainly true. In fact people think that Theresa May during | :06:51. | :06:57. | |
her time as Home Secretary tried to build-up better relations with | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
ethnic communities within the UK. Different countries throughout | :07:05. | :07:06. | |
Europe have different race relations, different underlying | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
tensions between many communities. I think it is absolutely right to say | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
that in some countries those links are not there. It doesn't exist in | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
France, does it? In parts of Paris it just doesn't exist. The reason | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
for that in many European countries as they don't believe in | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
multiculturalism. We want to throw out the baby with the bathwater but | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
one of the reasons we have such strong links between communities and | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
between, you might call it, our institutions and minority | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
communities is because people have a greater sense of fairness. We talk | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
about this system no longer being fit for purpose, multiculturalism, | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
but if we went to French or German way, things might be even worse. A | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
hell of a lot worse. Which takes us to the other story on the front of | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
the Financial Times, the European Court rules the indiscriminate mass | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
surveillance law to be illegal. Some things we have been seen in the news | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
suggest that tracking someone like this guy will be made much more | :08:09. | :08:16. | |
difficult if this ECJ ruling stands. It is a tricky one. The proposal | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
behind this law is it would allow authorities to track everyone's data | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
and forced telecommunications companies to keep records for 12 | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
months of the websites every single Briton has visited, and their phone | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
records. It has been judged to be too illiberal in that it is not | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
targeted, it affects absolutely everyone, and in that way it is too | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
general and indiscriminate. What is interesting is that with many of the | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
terror suspect and proven terrorists in the last few years, the problem | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
has not been that they were not flagged up, the authorities were | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
tracking them with covert surveillance, but they slipped the | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
net. I think there are arguments on both sides here about whether we | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
need to have this dragnet that takes in the entire population. And what | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
is fascinating about this story is that David Davies on the back bench, | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
a champion of civil liberties, he brought this court case to the ECJ. | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
He ducked out of it since he became a minister. And he has said the ECJ | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
is not fit for purpose. He has moved on. And there is nothing wrong with | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
that, David, if you are watching. And if every website we visited and | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
all the data we have looked at was being tracked and held by all | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
these... Don't look at me like I have been looking at dodgy website! | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
By these organisations and telecommunication companies, the | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
kind of institutions which will have access to this data, HMRC, | :09:48. | :09:56. | |
intelligence agencies, the NHS, you were uncomfortable with this in the | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
last hour, nor am I in this hour. We assume that everyone working for | :10:02. | :10:04. | |
these organisations is untouchable, like Eliot Ness. But you can't trust | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
everyone with this information. I think this is a really interesting | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
story in the Guardian. Corbyn critic quits and triggers an election test | :10:17. | :10:25. | |
for Labour. Jamie Reedy was a critic of Jeremy Corbyn and is standing | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
down. He has had conflicts with Jeremy Corbyn over the nuclear | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
issue. The by-election is the interesting thing, I think, because | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
this will be a real test for Jeremy Corbyn and for Labour. And a test | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
for UKIP as well, it is a fascinating seat, Copland, in the | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
north-west. There are only about 2500 votes in it, it is very | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
marginal. The Tories in second place and UKIP not very far behind. It is | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
a golden opportunity for the Conservatives. It has been | :10:59. | :11:01. | |
interesting today to see how people have come out. Labour has been on | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
the defensive back foot. Conservatives have been quite | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
bullish, saying this could be a golden ticket for them and many | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
Labour MPs, perhaps trolling Jeremy Corbyn, have pointed out that this | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
will be the first time since 1983 that the governing party has won a | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
by-election when the main opposition party has resigned. I happen to be | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
at Euston station earlier, and Paul muscle was buying a ticket to | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
Copland. I made that up! But I would not be surprised if he is on a train | :11:33. | :11:41. | |
up their pretty soon. And I hear that this was a Brexit constituency. | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
Exactly, it makes it even more interesting. It is a test of Jeremy | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
Corbyn's attitude towards Europe, and his Shadow Home Secretary's | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
attitude towards the free movement of people. There are a number of | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
people, not least the head of Unite, Len McCluskey, who would want to end | :12:01. | :12:08. | |
free movement. This could be really bad for foreign Labour. When the | :12:09. | :12:16. | |
Times cover this? A couple of months? It could be shorter than | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
that. It is up to Labour to move the writ, but I think we could see it | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
taking place in January -- what is the timetable to cover this. They | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
could allow a longer lead time and allow their rivals time, less to get | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
on with it. Very quickly, I wonder whether Jamie Reedy will be the | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
last? There has been a lot of suggestion today it is a chicken | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
run, others will start to fall. Most of us get a cold, we are laid out | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
and it is no big deal. But the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh falling | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
ill, it is front-page news. I thought this is kind of tricky, | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
throne a sickie. It is quite amusing in a way. I suppose you can tell | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
that arch royalist... We are only express now. Health scare for Queen | :13:16. | :13:24. | |
and Philip. Yesterday or the day before we heard from Nicholas | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
Witchell, the Queen is dropping her patronage of 25 major charities and | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
people were saying does this mean she is going to start winding down? | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
Even though she is in rude and robust health, she is 90. Even | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
though they missed their usual getaway to Sandringham, at the | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
moment they are staying firmly put in Buckingham Palace, which means | :13:47. | :13:54. | |
they must be properly ill. You say properly ill, let's not cause anyone | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
there to drop their cocoa or whiskey or whatever you have in your hand at | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
the moment. Buckingham Palace says it is all fine. They will be | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
travelling in a few days. And of course, Sandringham a very big part | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
of Christmas for both of them. I just taken aback by what you just | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
said, not proper ill, don't worry! It is a cold. So yes, it is the kind | :14:22. | :14:28. | |
of thing which will be big news, considering he is 95 and the Queen | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
herself is in her 90s. It is true, and it's interesting, because royal | :14:34. | :14:40. | |
family worked like clockwork, it is such a tradition for them to go to | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
Sandringham at this time of year. It reminds me how much they are part of | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
the routine at Christmas. We are so used to the Royal Family, especially | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
the Queen, doing the same thing, that it feels a real disruption of | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
the norm. That is a good point, you get the turkey and open the presents | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
and the Queen is at Sandringham. Now the sun have a headline on this, and | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
I pooh-poohed this at the beginning, I have to say, but looking at it on | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
reflection, it is not that bad. What do you think, throne a sickie? It is | :15:13. | :15:20. | |
not too bad. We don't want to be flip with the Queen and Prince | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
Philip having a cold but as someone who never throws a sticky... Are you | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
suggesting, the implication from this headline, from the Sun, the | :15:31. | :15:39. | |
most widely read paper in the country is that they are bonking off | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
somehow? They just can't be bothered going to Sandringham this year? If | :15:44. | :15:50. | |
they were genuinely concerned for the health of the royal couple, they | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
would not be as flip is that. And the nation is reassured. It has been | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
great having you in to look at the stories behind the headlines. Many | :16:01. | :16:01. | |
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