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Welcome to our programme. Today, our top story, Jeremy Corbyn has spent a | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
lot of his career criticising the European Union but this morning he | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
is giving a speech setting out why, despite that, he thinks the UK | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
should vote to stay in the EU in June's referendum. We will bring in | :00:28. | :00:33. | |
his speech live after 10am. Should 15-year-olds be told that the laying | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
becoming a parent could lead to problems having children? We will | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
talk to a fertility expert. And a woman who pushed to outlaw revenge | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
pornography once legislation to clamp down on online abuse and we | :00:45. | :00:52. | |
will talk to live. -- we will talk to her live. | :00:53. | :00:59. | |
Welcome to the programme. We are also going to be talking about | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
bosses' page as some BP shareholders are crossed that the company's boss | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
is in line for a 20% pay rise is taking his salary to just over ?13 | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
million. We will talk about that in the next half hour. | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
If you have got a story, and you think we should be covering it, let | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
us know. Send it to us. Some of our best stories come from you. Our top | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
story, Jeremy Corbyn is to make his first significant intervention in | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
the European referendum campaign. He will urge his supporters to back the | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
European Union, warts and all, but he will argue that the EU needs to | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
change. Then write reports. -- Ben Wright reports. | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
A different time, a rather different view. | :01:53. | :01:54. | |
When Britain voted to join what was then the European Economic Community | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
Then, Labour was split on the issue, and, through the 1980s and beyond, | :01:58. | :02:06. | |
Jeremy Corbyn remained sceptical, critical of the EU. | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
In 2008, he voted against his party's instructions | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
And as he stood for the leadership of his party this year, | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
he said he had mixed feelings about the EU and didn't rule out | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
But the vast majority of Labour MPs are pro-EU | :02:18. | :02:27. | |
They worry Jeremy Corbyn is not doing enough | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
to rally voters behind their | :02:31. | :02:32. | |
case, voters they think will be crucial for the result. | :02:33. | :02:43. | |
Mr Corbyn criticised David Cameron's renegotiated deal, saying | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
it was a great opportunity missed, and in March he explained | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
We are campaigning on the issues on social justice across Europe, | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
campaigning to defend the Social Chapter, | :02:53. | :02:54. | |
to defend the Working Time Directive, and | :02:55. | :02:56. | |
like the Transfer of Undertakings, which protects workers | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
We are campaigning for a social Europe. | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
Today, Jeremy Corbyn will make a major speech he hopes | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
will quieten his critics and clarify his position. | :03:07. | :03:08. | |
He will say Labour is overwhelmingly in favour of staying | :03:09. | :03:10. | |
in the EU, but he will also list its shortcomings. | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
It's not the speech David Cameron would make. | :03:14. | :03:15. | |
But Jeremy Corbyn has long had a very different view about the EU. | :03:16. | :03:22. | |
Ben Wright, BBC News, Westminster. | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
Norman Smith is in London, where Jeremy Corbyn | :03:29. | :03:29. | |
Norman, is Jeremy Corbyn really going to be able to convince people? | :03:30. | :03:42. | |
Well, on that may hinge the outcome of this referendum because many | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
people think that the key moment in this campaign will be whether Mr | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
Corbyn manages to galvanise Labour support to stay in the EU because | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
most people calculate that most Tory supporters will vote for Brexit, | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
therefore it is critical to motivate the labour vote. The difficulty is, | :04:00. | :04:08. | |
plenty of Jeremy Corbyn's speeches, he has criticised the EU, and I | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
think this is the first time I will have seen him make the case for the | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
EU. We know he has had long-standing doubts about the EU, going back to | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
its formation, but even quite recently during his leadership | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
campaign he was saying he had not ruled out campaigning to withdraw | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
from the EU. The Durham miners gal at the other month, he was critical | :04:30. | :04:36. | |
of the trade deal trying to -- that was being negotiated. He has | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
attacked the EU, saying they are treating Greece like a debt colony. | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
He says there is a lot riding on this and the challenge is to | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
convince people he is not speaking through gritted teeth, proving that | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
he has actually changed his mind on Europe. People say that he really | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
has a because he believes that Europe has changed and it is less of | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
a market organisation, more focused on protecting pay and public | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
services and the environment. But I have to say, he has an awful lot of | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
convincing to do. Thank you, Norman. And we will hear some of Mr Corbyn's | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
speech before ten o'clock. Ben Brown is in the BBC newsroom with the rest | :05:14. | :05:15. | |
of this morning's news. Several large investors | :05:16. | :05:17. | |
in the oil giant, BP, are planning to vote | :05:18. | :05:19. | |
against a decision to give a 20% pay rise to | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
its Chief Executive. They're angry that his pay package | :05:24. | :05:32. | |
will rise to almost ?14 million at a time when BP's profits | :05:33. | :05:34. | |
are falling and jobs are being lost. The company has defended | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
the increase, saying its performance Two migrants - who are | :05:38. | :05:39. | |
believed to be from Iran - have been rescued from an inflatable | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
boat off the coast of Dover. of this morning but didn't | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
know their exact position. They were picked up by a lifeboat | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
after eight hours at sea. A passing ferry helped to locate | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
them after spotting a light Four men suspected of involvement | :05:54. | :05:55. | |
in the attacks in Paris and Brussels are due to appear in court | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
in Belgium shortly. Mohammed Abrini, accused | :06:01. | :06:02. | |
of being "the man in the hat" seen on CCTV before | :06:03. | :06:04. | |
the Brussels airport bombing, is among the suspected plotters | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
attending the hearing. According to French television, | :06:08. | :06:09. | |
Abrini denies being A video appearing to show some | :06:10. | :06:11. | |
of the schoolgirls kidnapped by the Islamist group Boko Haram has | :06:12. | :06:19. | |
been sent to the The emergence of the footage comes | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
as vigils are held to mark the second anniversary | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
of the abduction of 276 girls Of those, nearly 220 | :06:29. | :06:30. | |
are still missing. Adaobi Nwaubani is a | :06:31. | :06:46. | |
journalist who's been documenting the stories | :06:47. | :06:47. | |
of the Chibok families and believes I think there is hope because in the | :06:48. | :06:54. | |
past year we have seen a massive rescues girls, such as we have not | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
seen before. People that we did not even know were kidnapped. We have | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
seen a lot of improvement. I have in visited -- I have visited the | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
Northeast several times and I see people returning to their lives, | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
trying to rebuild their lives, and I have seen improvements and the | :07:11. | :07:16. | |
return of abducted girls on a monthly basis. If the government | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
continues like this, it is only a matter of time before the girls are | :07:21. | :07:21. | |
eventually rescued. Two teenage girls have been arrested | :07:22. | :07:23. | |
on suspicion of kidnapping a three-year-old girl | :07:24. | :07:25. | |
in Newcastle city centre. Police launched a large scale search | :07:26. | :07:27. | |
after the child went missing from the Primark store | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
in Northumberland Street She was found just over an hour | :07:31. | :07:31. | |
later a few miles away in Gosforth. The 13 and 14 year old teenagers | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
are in custody on suspicion A 13 year-old girl was injured | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
during a shooting near Bethnal Green police station in east | :07:40. | :07:49. | |
London yesterday evening. She needed first aid treatment | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
after shots were fired The area around the police | :07:52. | :07:53. | |
station was sealed off No arrests have been made | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
and police are appealing The girl is still in hospital | :07:57. | :08:08. | |
being treated for minor injuries. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
have arrived in Bhutan on the fifth They touched down in | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
the country this morning. They'll meet the King and Queen | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
before watching a display Yesterday the royal couple spent | :08:20. | :08:21. | |
the day at Kaziranga National Park in India where they fed orphaned | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
rhinos and baby elephants. A Parkrun event that has been | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
at the centre of a row with a local council has been cancelled due | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
to safety concerns. Organisers of the free weekly run | :08:35. | :08:36. | |
in Little Stoke Park, near Bristol, said the numbers expected to turn | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
out for Saturday's event There has been widespread criticism | :08:41. | :08:42. | |
of the council's decision to charge Search dogs at Manchester Airport | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
are being criticised for how They're being criticised for failing | :08:49. | :08:58. | |
to detect illegal animal products But the Independent Chief Inspector | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
of Borders and Immigration said although they're adept at sniffing | :09:03. | :09:20. | |
out "cheese and sausages", there was a seven month period up | :09:21. | :09:22. | |
to June last year when they failed In the age of digital downloads, | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
there has been a huge resurgence of one of the most old fashioned | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
ways of listening to music. Vinyl sales are rising, | :09:30. | :09:32. | |
and this year they're up by more But a new survey for the BBC ahead | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
of Record Store Day this weekend has revealed that almost half | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
the people who buy vinyl In a moment we'll hear | :09:41. | :09:42. | |
from a leading fertility expert who's warning women not | :09:43. | :09:54. | |
to delay motherhood. What does that mean in practical | :09:55. | :10:02. | |
terms? Did you delay becoming a parent? Does that ID ring true? Get | :10:03. | :10:04. | |
in touch. Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE | :10:05. | :10:16. | |
and if you text, you will be charged It was a good night | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
for Manchester United? This is possibly the last chance for | :10:20. | :10:28. | |
them to secure some silverware. After faltering season, they are | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
through to the FA Cup semifinal where they will face Everton. United | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
beat West Ham 2-1 last night and it was the hammers last game. But | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
Marcus Rushford ruined their celebrations with that brilliant | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
strike. Marouane Fellaini bumbled in a second as United booked their | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
place at Wembley in the last four later this month. | :10:51. | :10:58. | |
I said I want a title and of course I am very happy. This is very | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
important for the English clubs. You have seen the fans shouting during | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
the game. Fantastic support. I like that. | :11:10. | :11:16. | |
Everton drew 0-0 at Crystal Palace. James McCarthy was sent off early in | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
the second half. On the Europe, and was a shock last night. | :11:23. | :11:42. | |
Champions League favourites, and defending champions, | :11:43. | :11:43. | |
Atletico Madrid beat them two-nil, overcoming their 2-1 | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
Barca are struggling at the moment, and their poor form continued | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
as Antoine Griezeman gave Atletico the lead. | :11:51. | :11:52. | |
from the penalty spot, after Andres Iniesta handled | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
This is Barca's third loss in four games. | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
So joining Atletico in the semi-finals will be Bayern Munich. | :11:59. | :12:00. | |
They drew 2-2 with Benfica in Portugal, going | :12:01. | :12:02. | |
That means Bayern manager Pep Guardiola could end up | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
meeting his future employers Manchester City in the last four. | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
Tonight, the Europa League takes centre stage. | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
A big night at Anfield as Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
take on his former club, Borussia Dortmund. | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
The sides drew 1-1 in Germany a week ago, | :12:22. | :12:23. | |
the crucial away goal against the tournament favourites, | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
and Klopp is hoping the crowd will play their their part | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
We have to do our job really. We have to be part of this atmosphere. | :12:30. | :12:38. | |
We have to show that we know what it is about. And then, I am pretty sure | :12:39. | :12:40. | |
that the crowd will help us. World number one Novak Djokovic has | :12:41. | :12:49. | |
been beaten for the first time this year, losing in the second | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
round of the Monte Carlo Masters. Big shock for tennis fans, | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
considering Djokovic hasn't exited But unseeded Czech player | :12:56. | :12:57. | |
Yiri Vesely got the better of him to go through to the third round - | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
and it's the first time he's beaten It's not often you get a fairytale | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
ending but one of basketball's all-time greats Kobe Bryant has had | :13:05. | :13:14. | |
pretty much the perfect He scored 60 points as he ended | :13:15. | :13:16. | |
his glittering 20-year And it finished with | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
a win as the Lakers The crowd was full of celebrities, | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
David Beckham and Jack Nicholson And the most expensive | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
ticket was sold for almost Incredible. That is all the sport | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
for now. We know all the reasons why | :13:34. | :13:41. | |
women are leaving it Lack of money, building a career, | :13:42. | :13:44. | |
not meeting the right partner. But it's a trend that really worries | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
one leading fertility expert. She's here this morning to tell us | :13:51. | :13:52. | |
exclusively about a pilot project she's launching in schools, to warn | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
girls as young as 15 that delaying motherhood when they're older | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
could lead to fertility problems. So before we talk to her, | :13:59. | :14:00. | |
it's worth looking at The best available evidence shows | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
that among couples having 92% of women aged between 19 and 26 | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
will conceive after one year. That drops to 86% among women | :14:07. | :14:15. | |
aged between 27 and 34. And it drops again to 82% among | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
women aged between 35 and 39. Let's talk Dr Geeta Nargund, | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
director at Create Fertility, which treats couples | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
with fertility problems. We're also joined by Tanith Lee, | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
who was diagnosed with early Leanne Dulson went | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
through four cycles of IVF before she had her son, Max, | :14:35. | :14:46. | |
and admits she left pregnancy late. Jessica Hepburn, who runs | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
theatres and is author She went through 11 cycles | :14:50. | :14:51. | |
of failed IVF treatment. Her and her partner have unexplained | :14:52. | :14:54. | |
infertility, so they still do not know why they were | :14:55. | :14:57. | |
unable to have children. And joining us from Liverpool | :14:58. | :14:59. | |
is actress Tina Malone. She had her first child at 17 | :15:00. | :15:01. | |
and her second at 50. Welcome all of you. Thank you very | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
much for coming on the programme. Let's start with you, Professor. | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
Let's get straight to the nub of this. When is it too late to | :15:11. | :15:12. | |
conceive, in your view? profound in women compared to men. | :15:13. | :15:46. | |
The fact is, fertility problems happen in one in six couples in the | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
UK. Infidelity seems to be the second was common reason why a woman | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
visits her GP. It is not something to be ignored and the message about | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
fertility education is, to me, a proactive, preventative and | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
progressive health education message. What is the message? | :16:07. | :16:15. | |
215-year-old girls in state schools? It is for boys and girls, not just | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
girls. Although the first school will be a school for girls. The | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
fertility modules, which have been approved, or chicken from basics to | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
what is available and it is precisely to give options to women, | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
if they need to delay, what they should do to protect their fertility | :16:41. | :16:43. | |
and the options available. The modules will involve basic | :16:44. | :16:49. | |
physiology and biology information. In the terms you will say to | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
15-year-olds, what would you say? What they will say is clearly a | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
message that is about understanding their bodies and the biology about | :16:59. | :17:07. | |
the production of eggs, and other issues... And the decline in your | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
30s? Absolutely. It is a very clear and logical message about how the | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
biological clock works and what we can do and lifestyle factors that | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
can affect fertility. For both boys and girls. Those figures, they | :17:22. | :17:34. | |
suggest that at age ten three, 82% will conceive after one year. -- | :17:35. | :17:42. | |
35-39. I must also point out, we do not want women to end up with just | :17:43. | :17:53. | |
the image of conception, groups are providing IVF, in fertility is | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
distressing and strip and can be stressful and it is not always | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
available. You will say that? No, but the reason behind the strong | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
message in protect thing, protecting fertility and you think education is | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
we do not want them to end up with infertility if possible and | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
protecting fertility, it is balanced and scientific and the modules are | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
designed like that. Tina Malone, what do you think? I think it is | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
ethically and morally wrong to tell 15-year-old boys and girls about | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
infertility. We should be educating them about sexually transmitted | :18:35. | :18:41. | |
diseases, about the decisions to make with exams and career choices | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
and subject choices, we should be educating them on alcohol, drugs, | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
stuff like that. Not telling them about infertility, which, hopefully, | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
will not affect them until their mid-30s and for me, and I am the | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
voice of experience here, I gave birth at 18 and at 50, I was a child | :19:04. | :19:13. | |
with a child. In my opinion, 15-year-old girls have selective | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
hearing, to tell a 15-year-old, you need to be worried about infertility | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
possibly in the future, that gives them another excuse or reason to | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
encourage illegitimate children, teenage pregnancy and we have that | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
in abundance in this country. We should educate them and not tell | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
them about infertility. Let us be honest, it is something that we need | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
to address, young mothers and the problems that are then created in | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
this country through a lack of education and a lack of support and | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
women not being able to bring these children up? Thank you for that. But | :19:56. | :20:07. | |
the message is, we introduce sex and relationship education and through | :20:08. | :20:10. | |
that we have successfully reduced teenage pregnancy. We're talking | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
about complete reproductive health education, not about infertility, it | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
is about fertility and part of that is about lifestyle factors like | :20:20. | :20:25. | |
smoking, alcohol, drugs, sexually transmitted infections, body weight, | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
how they can affect fertility so it is not just about the impact of age, | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
it is about the current lifestyle factors and what effect that can | :20:38. | :20:44. | |
have on future health and ability. You were diagnosed with early | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
menopause at 38, you had done to children, thank goodness. You might | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
think? Is this a good idea for teenagers at school to have this | :20:54. | :21:01. | |
conversation? I do, in respect to education for the entire life-cycle, | :21:02. | :21:03. | |
it is really important, we need to know what happens. We have puberty | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
and about pregnancy but we do not talk about hitting older, | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
particularly with the menopause, well a 15-year-old engage with the | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
word menopause? That is tricky but it is in Portland to have these | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
conversations, to talk about all of these things that could be ten | :21:23. | :21:29. | |
chilly happen. What do you think? Not at 15, information is brilliant | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
but that has to be at the right time and place and at 15, you should be | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
worrying about exams. What is the right age? I do not know, certainly | :21:41. | :21:47. | |
University and people go on to make life changes. I can see why a school | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
you have a captive audience and it does link with reproduction but at | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
15, they are not kids for long enough and this is giving them | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
another worry they may not even need. You had your son, Max, after | :22:01. | :22:09. | |
IVF and that was after four cycles. How old are you? I am 40 next year. | :22:10. | :22:17. | |
Have you considered, maybe I left it too late? Hindsight is wonderful. If | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
I knew what I know now, we would have tried years earlier but it has | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
to be at the right time and must fit into your lifestyle, when you are | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
emotionally and financially able and where the relationship is. Jessica? | :22:35. | :22:44. | |
I would agree with Geeta, it is understanding about fertility. The | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
thing that is not properly understood is that you are born with | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
your lifetime supply of eggs and they gradually diminish as you get | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
older. And if you believe that having -- leave having a baby until | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
your 30s, it will be harder to conceive. A little bit. What is | :23:04. | :23:12. | |
difficult is it could be fine. The average age of first-time mothers is | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
increasing. However, we also know that the fertility industry is | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
booming because more couples are struggling. Tell me honestly, | :23:22. | :23:28. | |
imagine you are 15 again and in a fertility lesson or whatever you | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
call it, with your friends, and somebody tells you, when you are 30 | :23:33. | :23:40. | |
two X will decline, you will not be bothered, it will change how the | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
rest of your life is led? It might not but that does not mean we should | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
not communicate effects cause what is happening is a number of women | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
entering their 40s without children has doubled from our parents. You | :23:56. | :24:06. | |
want to, and? And I can tell you that most of those children are not | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
childless by choice, it is through circumstance. That is why people are | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
leaving this later. What I would say, Tina, you have been looking to | :24:16. | :24:22. | |
have children. -- lucky. But the second was born through the donation | :24:23. | :24:29. | |
of a egg? I do understand what you are saying about telling them about | :24:30. | :24:38. | |
the depletion of eggs from 35 and Geeta is the doctor and I am not, | :24:39. | :24:46. | |
but let us be realistic here. At 15, you should not be looking for | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
another excuse to encourage teenage girls to get pregnant and let us be | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
honest, women nowadays, ten years ago, 20 years ago, women were not as | :24:58. | :25:06. | |
encouraged or a successful in the boardroom and in the theatre and in | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
the arts, in every area, education... Lesson are more | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
successful than they were ten years ago, 20 years ago. -- women. They | :25:18. | :25:23. | |
are taking charge of their lives. They are educating themselves so | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
what they are doing is leaving choices, possibly making wiser | :25:28. | :25:35. | |
decisions... Let Geeta comeback. Thank you. I want to make it clear | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
that we did talk about the decline in eggs and it is clearly not the | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
same for every woman, someone and have a more rapid decline than | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
others so these examples help. Women who smoke, girls who smoke... Those | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
with thyroid problems or a history of early menopause, this is part of | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
education as to how this will affect you. And secondly, I want to address | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
the career aspect because we are precisely sitting here for that | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
reason. To allow women to be successful in whatever they want to | :26:16. | :26:23. | |
do. We should be telling women in their 20s or at university and in | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
later education... This is about options. They can freeze their eggs. | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
These are options that should be available. I just think this is | :26:35. | :26:42. | |
about education and giving choice. And that is what is really | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
important. And I just feel that some of the things you are saying are | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
scaremongering. I do not think about myself or attempt to want to | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
encourage teenage pregnancy. What we're saying we want young people to | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
understand the fertility life-cycle and if they put off later | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
motherhood, it could be harder and it could mean that you may not have | :27:07. | :27:14. | |
children. This anybody know... I will not be really listening to you | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
telling them that they are being told their eggs are declining... | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
Does anybody know of any woman or man who has put off being a parent | :27:26. | :27:34. | |
until, say, 36, because my job is going well? What was the reason? I | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
know of people, they say they will not have children until their 30s | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
because they cannot afford to put a deposit on a house, I cannot afford | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
to be socially, mentally, physically in the right place to bring a child | :27:50. | :27:57. | |
into the world. Is that dot the most sensible thing? Absolutely, they | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
need to be ready. That goes without saying. It is kind of irrelevant. It | :28:03. | :28:13. | |
is empowerment and education. If I was a 15-year-old worried about my | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
career and what I was going to wear on Friday night, and, as an | :28:17. | :28:22. | |
18-year-old I had a child to bring up and I am not comfortable, I have | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
my house, education, the confidence to give a child more so than in my | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
younger years... You already do not like this idea of 15-year-olds? I | :28:33. | :28:42. | |
think at 15 it is too young. I just think it does need to be something | :28:43. | :28:49. | |
people are aware of, people say they will get their promotion and wait | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
until they work overseas for a couple of years and wake the right | :28:52. | :28:58. | |
boy. We bombard teenagers with too much information. I understand that | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
Jessica and Geeta are coming from a good place but we should be talking | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
them into going into education and discussing moral codes of etiquette | :29:10. | :29:16. | |
and socially how they should be, hoping to change the world and | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
change their lives, educate themselves, socially and morally and | :29:22. | :29:23. | |
make the world a better place, rather than telling them, hear is | :29:24. | :29:29. | |
another excuse to get pregnant? I got pregnant because some body | :29:30. | :29:32. | |
mentioned to me that I might not be able to in my 30s. It is not like | :29:33. | :29:40. | |
that. We can do all of that. We can educate about all of that, it is | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
about education and knowing about what happens to the female body at a | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
fundamental level. Take yourself back to when you were a 15-year-old. | :29:50. | :29:56. | |
I am torn, I may not have engaged at that age but we did talk about sex | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
and schools many years ago, so it is about having that conversation. And | :30:03. | :30:08. | |
sex education is generally very poor and schools at the moment. We have | :30:09. | :30:15. | |
spoken to parents about whether it is the right age from 15 and we have | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
spoken to enlightened teachers and we have come up with these modules | :30:21. | :30:28. | |
for fertility education after having conversations and consultation with | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
the relevant stakeholders. We actually asked teachers to ask | :30:33. | :30:38. | |
students and I can say that since the campaign began, there are lots | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
of pupils who have been interviewed by television and radio and they | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
say, we would love to know about this but this is about choice and | :30:48. | :30:49. | |
what options are available. To let you read the messages from | :30:50. | :30:58. | |
people watching the country. Alexandra says, I started trying to | :30:59. | :31:04. | |
conceive a 26 and with no results after two years I have just finished | :31:05. | :31:11. | |
my first round of IVF at 28. In not all cases is it true that if you try | :31:12. | :31:17. | |
for children in your prime, you will not suffer from fertility problems. | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
I am now five weeks pregnant thanks to IVF. Mag says I got pregnant with | :31:21. | :31:29. | |
my first baby at 34 and now, after 22 months, I am planning a second. | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
Healthy mums have healthy babies. Remember, babies, look after | :31:35. | :31:41. | |
yourselves. -- remember, ladies. Helen says that she thinks that | :31:42. | :31:45. | |
teaching can affect fertility. I did not meet my husband until I was 39 | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
and we tried to have a baby but it took three years of investigation | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
and operations. When I was finally in a position to start IVF, I was | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
given just a 5% chance of having children. Luckily, I had to boys, | :31:59. | :32:05. | |
one now aged 44 and the other 46. Stella says, I am a mother of two | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
boys but I always vote if I had a girl, I would encourage her not to | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
delay. A couple more on Facebook, Samantha says that children should | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
be taught that it is OK to wait until they are ready to have kids. | :32:18. | :32:25. | |
It would be bought the lignite better to teach them to aim higher | :32:26. | :32:28. | |
in terms of careers and seeing the world before they have children. -- | :32:29. | :32:39. | |
it would be better to teach them. Thank you very much, all of you. | :32:40. | :32:41. | |
Thank you for coming on the programme. I am sure we will get | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
loads more messages on that and we will try to read as many as possible | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
throughout the programme. Get in touch in the usual way. Still to | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
come, calls for Britain to get tougher to beat internet trawls. | :32:55. | :32:57. | |
We'll talk to an MP campaigning to toughen legislation to protect | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
people from online bullies. And when did you last get a pay rise? Bob | :33:02. | :33:08. | |
Dudley, the BT boss -- BP boss, is in line for a pay rise of 2 billion | :33:09. | :33:14. | |
quid, as jobs are cut at his company. We will look at why several | :33:15. | :33:17. | |
shareholders are planning to block that pay rise. Good morning. Here is | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
Ben with the news. is to make his first significant | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
intervention in the European He will use a speech in London this | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
morning to urge his supporters to back the European Union "warts | :33:32. | :33:40. | |
and all" - but he'll argue Two migrants, who are | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
believed to be from Iran, have been rescued from an inflatable | :33:44. | :33:54. | |
boat off the coast of Dover. of this morning, but didn't | :33:55. | :33:56. | |
know their exact position. They were picked up by a lifeboat | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
after eight hours at sea. A passing ferry helped to locate | :34:01. | :34:03. | |
them after spotting a light Several investors in BP are planning | :34:04. | :34:14. | |
to vote against a decision to give a 20% pay rise to its Chief Executive. | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
They are angry that his pay will rise to almost ?40 million at a time | :34:20. | :34:22. | |
when profits are falling and jobs being lost. The company has defended | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
the increase saying that his performance has surpassed | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
expectation. A leading fertility expert is launching a pilot project | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
in schools to warn girls as young as 15 that delaying motherhood could | :34:37. | :34:44. | |
lead to fertility problems. The medical director at Creates | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
Fertility told this programme why she believes it is so important for | :34:49. | :34:52. | |
women to be aware of potential problems from a young age. I think | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
what is important is that there is an age related decline in fertility, | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
which is worse in women than men. The fact is that fertility problems | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
happen in one in six couples in the UK. Infertility seems to be the | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
second most common reason why a woman will visit a general | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
practitioner. It is not something to be ignored and I think that the | :35:18. | :35:21. | |
message here about fertility education is, to me, a proactive, | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
preventative and progressive health education message. | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have arrived in Bhutan on the fifth | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
They touched down in the country this morning. | :35:35. | :35:37. | |
They were greeted by a Bhutanese girl and boy bearing bunches of | :35:38. | :35:46. | |
flowers. They are respected to meet the king and queen of the small | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
Malayan kingdom today. -- they are expected. That is a summary of the | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
BBC News. More at 10pm. Champions League favourites and | :35:55. | :36:20. | |
defending champions Barcelona are out of the competition. Atletico | :36:21. | :36:26. | |
Madrid beat them to nil, overcoming the loss in the first leg on | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
aggregate. Novak Djokavic has been beaten for the first time this year, | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
losing in the second round of the Monte Carlo Masters. He was beaten | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
by unseeded Czech player, Jiri Vesely. It is the first and he has | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
exited a tournament of this early since 2013. And in Formula 1, Lewis | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
Hamilton will be given a five place grid penalty at the Chinese Grand | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
Prix on Sunday, having decided to change his damaged gearbox, which is | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
against the rules. Is enough being done to confront online abuse? Maria | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
Millar, the former culture secretary, says that the government | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
needs to update laws and work more closely with the internet giant to | :37:08. | :37:10. | |
prevent what she calls a nightmare future for young people online. | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
We'll speak to Maria in a moment, but first here's a clip | :37:16. | :37:18. | |
of when the singer, Frankie Bridge, who has also been the victim | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
of online abuse, confronted a former internet troll. | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
Why do patrol people? What do you get out of it? I do not trawl any | :37:27. | :37:34. | |
more. I used to. And why do you? It was to get a buzz. I get a reply of | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
the people that I am trolling. The favourites, the retweets. People | :37:41. | :37:47. | |
join in, and then sometimes it becomes a competition between | :37:48. | :37:54. | |
trawls. Sometimes. Like you can be the nastiest? So the buzz that you | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
get, is that from being horrible to someone or is the buzz from getting | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
the attention? It is just getting tweets and favourites. Why do you | :38:03. | :38:10. | |
enjoy the attention online? Would you be like that to someone in | :38:11. | :38:15. | |
person, like you have said that you would rape someone or you have | :38:16. | :38:19. | |
called them a bitch or something on Twitter, would you say that in | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
person? No. I am a totally different person. So why do you think it is OK | :38:24. | :38:29. | |
online? Because I think you are anonymous and you are not going to | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
get caught. And did you not ever think how that made that person feel | :38:35. | :38:39. | |
that you were saying that too. No. You do not think what saying. | :38:40. | :38:46. | |
Maria Miller joins me now from our Westminster studio. | :38:47. | :38:49. | |
Good morning. Tell us about this nightmare future. You have just | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
heard in that report that people do not feel that there are consequences | :38:56. | :38:59. | |
to the activity they undertake online. And the concern I have is | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
that this feeds through to not just young people in terms of their | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
relationships with each other, and what they think is acceptable, but | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
also young children's access to pornography, which is now almost | :39:13. | :39:19. | |
unlimited access. We are sleepwalking into some extremely | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
serious problems. Unless we undertake a radical reform of the | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
way that the law tackles these sorts of activities online. Tell me what | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
examples you could give of legislation that could deter | :39:32. | :39:38. | |
somebody from posting pornography online that would stop a young | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
person clicking on it. I can give you a clear example of how putting | :39:43. | :39:48. | |
in place a bespoke online laws has really helped to tackle a problem | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
and that is in the area of revenge pornography. Along with a dedicated | :39:52. | :39:58. | |
group of people, I campaigned to get a dedicated law to outlaw the | :39:59. | :40:05. | |
posting of illicit and sexual images of people online without their | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
permission. And we now see people starting to take that much more | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
seriously and the increases in the number of reports and prosecutions | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
is testament to the fact that bespoke laws can really help to | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
unearth the scale of this problem and show people that there are | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
consequences to their actions. So are you saying that you could do | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
something similar to stop people posting pornography online? I think | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
in terms of posting and accessing pornography online, obviously that | :40:37. | :40:43. | |
is pornography, pornography is legal over the age of 18, but the issue is | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
making sure that those that are placing material online, that it is | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
legal material, and that they are doing what they should be doing to | :40:53. | :40:54. | |
make sure that access is only for those over the age of 18. I think | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
what this points out is that there is a cornucopia of problems with | :41:00. | :41:07. | |
online activity and that illegal activity is going unchallenged in | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
some areas. The government needs to have a review of the law, and also | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
look at the way that those providing online services police their own | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
products. We would not expect a supermarket to be putting illegal | :41:20. | :41:22. | |
products on their shelves and letting people purchase them, yet at | :41:23. | :41:26. | |
the moment we seem to not have effective measures to stop the same | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
thing happening within social media platforms. So there is a two pronged | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
approach, better laws, more clear, concise laws, and also perhaps a | :41:37. | :41:39. | |
change of culture or mindset about the internet two we know, many | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
people say it is about freedom of access and expression, and freedom | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
of speech. As a nation, we have always realise that freedom of | :41:50. | :41:51. | |
speech comes with responsibilities. At the moment, those that are | :41:52. | :41:58. | |
exercising their right to freedom of speech online, sometimes, people are | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
not really understanding the responsibilities that they have when | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
they undertake that right of freedom. Nobody has the right to | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
abuse somebody. Nobody has the right to the fame and individual online, | :42:14. | :42:15. | |
but at the moment, because of the way the industry has set itself up, | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
people can get away with those sorts of crimes without being challenged | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
because the law is such a patchwork, and very difficult to implement. Is | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
anyone listening in the government is to what you were saying? The | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
Crown Prosecution Service has just launched a further consultation | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
around the issue of impersonation, people setting up web pages that are | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
pretending to be somebody they are not. And that is to be welcomed. But | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
this piecemeal approach is really not tackling the underlying problem, | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
that we need to have a future proofed framework of legislation, a | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
clear framework for operators to operate within, and most importantly | :42:54. | :42:59. | |
of all, to ensure that there is a strong education programmes people | :43:00. | :43:02. | |
know that they will potentially have a criminal conviction if they | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
undertake the sort of activities that your report showed was perhaps | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
sometimes just bravado, but leaving people victims appalling abuse in | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
their wake. Thank you for talking to us. They do for your comments on | :43:16. | :43:23. | |
plans to teach teenagers that potentially delaying her becoming a | :43:24. | :43:29. | |
parent could cause infertility problems. Helga tweeted, it is | :43:30. | :43:40. | |
outrageous. 15-year-olds should be concentrating on GCSEs and healthy | :43:41. | :43:43. | |
relationships, not fertility. Martina says, here we go again, | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
women being blamed for having children. Women can do what they | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
like even if they do not want children. And Nick says, I do not | :43:52. | :43:54. | |
think it is necessary to be taught in schools. It is something you | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
learn and decide during your 20s and 30s and I cannot see how that would | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
have an immediate effect on you when you leave school. Coming up, Jeremy | :44:02. | :44:07. | |
Corbyn has spent a lot of his career criticising the European Union. This | :44:08. | :44:10. | |
morning he will set out why he thinks that you should vote to stay | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
in when it comes to June's referendum. We will hear some of the | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
speech live and we will talk to two undecided voters to see what they | :44:21. | :44:22. | |
think of what he has to say. Does any boss, right now, | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
in a time of wage restraint and very very low inflation, | :44:27. | :44:29. | |
deserve a 20% pay rise? Particularly when the company the | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
boss runs has seen falling profits? Oil giant BP is holding its annual | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
general meeting for shareholders in London today and some of those | :44:35. | :44:38. | |
shareholders are planning to vote against their chief executive | :44:39. | :44:41. | |
Bob Dudley's 20% wage rise, which, by the way, would take his pay | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
packet to ?13.8 million. The tricky thing is, | :44:48. | :44:50. | |
some of those same shareholders voted for the very pay | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
policy that's led to this And, the company says, | :44:55. | :44:57. | |
BP's performance has "surpassed the board's expectations on almost | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
all of the measures John Purcell is a headhunter | :45:02. | :45:03. | |
at Purcell Co and Stefan Stern is the director | :45:04. | :45:12. | |
of the High Pay Centre. What is that? We are a think tank | :45:13. | :45:24. | |
that looks at high pay. What do think tanks to? We think, research | :45:25. | :45:30. | |
and come on television! Perfect! Is it too much? 20%? It does look very | :45:31. | :45:39. | |
odd. Their biggest ever losses for 20 years, thousands of jobs gone, | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
his pension is going up hugely as part of this deal and that is a | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
tough message for the former BP employees who are more concerned | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
about their own future and for talented people in the industry. | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
They will look at BPL thing, is that where I want to go? This is a CEO | :45:56. | :46:00. | |
who is rewarded for getting rid of people at a time of losses. Is that | :46:01. | :46:06. | |
the career path I want? This is problematic and this is why | :46:07. | :46:09. | |
investors are speak up -- speaking up because they will think, this is | :46:10. | :46:15. | |
not a good business decision. As shareholders who voted for this very | :46:16. | :46:19. | |
formula? There are some unintended circumstances and we do not know | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
what the numbers will be an awesome on things, in one sense... Safety | :46:24. | :46:31. | |
was excellent? And so it should be and whether history that is | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
important but is that not part of the job anyway? Of running a big | :46:36. | :46:41. | |
company? Health and safety is a given, why get a bonus for that? I | :46:42. | :46:46. | |
would raise that as a question. What do you think? Taking a swipe at | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
Executive page is the political equivalent of an open goal. It is | :46:52. | :46:58. | |
easy at 20%? What is inflation? 1.2%. But anyway, the issue of | :46:59. | :47:07. | |
Executive page, it is easy but the point is, the schema set out number | :47:08. | :47:11. | |
two years ago and a new scheme will be brought in after this point which | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
could change the system. But if they were to physically rip up the deal | :47:17. | :47:21. | |
that was agreed, that would also send out a bad message that you | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
cannot trust us, if you see we can do something and you meet those | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
targets and then we will not pay you, I don't think anybody in any | :47:31. | :47:37. | |
job would accept those conditions. If investors vote against this | :47:38. | :47:43. | |
today, doesn't mean that he will not get that 20% pay rise? It is | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
non-binding, it will be an indication of displeasure but unless | :47:49. | :47:52. | |
they get a huge majority, I do not think this will affect the outcome. | :47:53. | :47:58. | |
Do they really mean it if they vote against it or is this just to send a | :47:59. | :48:02. | |
signal that they are against Executive pay? A bit of both, they | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
would be embarrassed but they genuinely think that this number is | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
much too big and they will say it is damaging the interests of the | :48:12. | :48:15. | |
company by being seen to be overpaying at a time of constraint | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
for everyone else. When we talk about investors and shareholders, | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
who are they? That there's fair question, shareholders or a wide | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
range of people, who hold shares for a longer period, some of them trade | :48:30. | :48:34. | |
them instantly, at home on their laptop while watching this | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
programme. The asset managers, the fund managers, they represent big | :48:39. | :48:44. | |
pools of shares so the individual shareholders will go to the AGM, | :48:45. | :48:49. | |
grandparents, retirees, that is a tiny proportion, we call them | :48:50. | :48:55. | |
shareholders but as a way of powerful conversations, that is | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
between about 25 people... Institutional shareholders. The | :49:00. | :49:04. | |
individuals taking these decisions on votes. And they are also | :49:05. | :49:07. | |
desensitised from some of these bigger numbers because they are all | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
in a very big number again, people around the table are used to big | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
numbers and that is partly why some of these numbers get signed through. | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
Is that fair? They are so used to these numbers, that they are in an | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
almost insular world, they do not see... Or is that very naive? You | :49:27. | :49:34. | |
are moving into the territory of hating the game and not the players | :49:35. | :49:38. | |
and what I mean is, it is easy to pick out individuals, next week it | :49:39. | :49:42. | |
will be Sir Martin Sorrell, the advertising guy, he will get ?60 | :49:43. | :49:49. | |
million. He will be the target next week. I'll be saying we hate the | :49:50. | :49:55. | |
game overall? Or are we after individual players? If it is the | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
overall picture, that is a very big job because we're talking about | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
capitalism itself, how do we want to run the world? Best people for the | :50:05. | :50:11. | |
job and all that? It is huge conversation and not one given to | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
easy headlines. It is easy to generate a headline but it does not | :50:15. | :50:18. | |
bring you very far. ?60 million every year? Yes. But something is | :50:19. | :50:26. | |
missing from this game and that is the voice of the ordinary worker and | :50:27. | :50:29. | |
employee, there is no representative of the workforce sitting around the | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
table when they renew a committee is coming up with these numbers and | :50:36. | :50:37. | |
that is partly why we get these almost unreal numbers. Nobody from | :50:38. | :50:44. | |
the shop floor, the oil rigs, engineers, saying 20%? ?40 million? | :50:45. | :50:53. | |
Somebody needs to say that. It has been my view that for some time the | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
nonexecutive directors of public companies have been asleep at the | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
wheel. What are they doing? It is a key part of their job to hold the | :51:04. | :51:10. | |
board to account. There is a sense that it isn't old boys club, it is a | :51:11. | :51:16. | |
merry-go-round, I think it is changing and there are more women | :51:17. | :51:20. | |
coming on board as nonexecutive directors to bring some balance but | :51:21. | :51:23. | |
I think that nonexecutive is, it has become much tougher and they need to | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
step up and do the job. Thank you both very much. | :51:29. | :51:31. | |
Coming up - yet more cats have been killed | :51:32. | :51:33. | |
We'll be speaking to one victim and those trying | :51:34. | :51:37. | |
Thank you for your thoughts but plans to teach teenagers as | :51:38. | :51:51. | |
potentially delaying becoming apparent could cause infertility | :51:52. | :51:54. | |
problems. Cirrus, why are we teaching teenagers about infertility | :51:55. | :52:01. | |
before consent? Stop by the -- stop prioritising biology over welfare. | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
Another says, what about ensuring a family as a cohesive unit and | :52:07. | :52:08. | |
financially stable before having a child? Children should be taught | :52:09. | :52:14. | |
that it is OK for children to wait until the ready to have children, | :52:15. | :52:17. | |
especially considering the high number of teenage pregnancies in the | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
UK, it would be better to teach them to aim higher in terms of careers | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
and seeing the world first. Before choosing to be anchored with | :52:26. | :52:28. | |
children. And that message was so good, I have read it twice! | :52:29. | :52:31. | |
In the next few minutes the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, | :52:32. | :52:34. | |
will set out why he thinks Britain is better off staying | :52:35. | :52:36. | |
We'll bring you that speech live when it happens. | :52:37. | :52:39. | |
His position on Europe is backed by most of his MPs | :52:40. | :52:43. | |
in the Labour Party, but Mr Corbyn himself has not | :52:44. | :52:45. | |
Over his 33 years as an MP, his views on Britain's relationship | :52:46. | :52:50. | |
with Europe have changed and it's brought him in for a fair | :52:51. | :52:53. | |
Leave campaigners say he's backtracking after years | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
The Remain camp say he hasn't been vocal enough in backing them. | :52:58. | :53:05. | |
In the next hour he'll give a speech setting out why he now thinks | :53:06. | :53:13. | |
But let's look back at his past positions. | :53:14. | :53:20. | |
In 1975 Jeremy Corbyn voted to leave the European Economic Community, | :53:21. | :53:22. | |
which is what the EU was known as then. | :53:23. | :53:30. | |
Then, in 1993, he criticised the Maastricht Treaty, | :53:31. | :53:33. | |
which established the European Union. | :53:34. | :53:36. | |
In reference to the economy he said it took power away from national | :53:37. | :53:39. | |
parliaments and put it in the hands "an unelected set of bankers". | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
Here's him making his case against the EU in 1996. | :53:44. | :53:49. | |
You have European bureaucracy totally unaccountable to anybody. | :53:50. | :53:52. | |
Powers have gone from national parliaments, they haven't gone | :53:53. | :53:54. | |
They've gone to the Commission and, to some extent, | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
He also voted against the Lisbon Treaty in 2008 - | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
a treaty which made changes to the European Union to make | :54:04. | :54:06. | |
Then, during his leadership campaign last year, he refused to rule out | :54:07. | :54:13. | |
In one hustings he said he had "mixed feelings" and accused the EU | :54:14. | :54:19. | |
Now he says the UK should remain, but says he's not on the same side | :54:20. | :54:27. | |
He wants a "social Europe" that protects workers' rights | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
Here in the studio we're joined by our two undecided voters, | :54:31. | :54:39. | |
who we spoke to last month - Kerry Gadd and Jarel Robinson-Brown. | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
We're going to see if Corbyn's speech helps any of you make your | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
One of the is leaning towards staying? Me! And one is leaning | :54:49. | :55:01. | |
towards getting out? And we will ask you to watch some of the speech and | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
see if it has any impact whatsoever in terms of your decision. Have you | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
been picking up speeches that people have been making? Reading and going | :55:10. | :55:15. | |
online? Or is it switching you off? In my opinion, I think it is | :55:16. | :55:21. | |
switching me off because the more speeches and reports that I read, | :55:22. | :55:26. | |
they seem to be more leaning for the politicians to understand rather | :55:27. | :55:31. | |
than the public themselves. So there is a lot of noise and is this going | :55:32. | :55:37. | |
over your head? Yes. I would agree with Kerry, I still feel, I am | :55:38. | :55:43. | |
hearing lots of information but it is not that clear and I have not had | :55:44. | :55:48. | |
this document that some people have had through the door. The leaflet | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
explaining why. I think that would help. All of the things that I have | :55:55. | :56:00. | |
watched, for some reason might... That is interesting, you think the | :56:01. | :56:06. | |
taxpayer money spent producing this leaflet to explain why the | :56:07. | :56:08. | |
government wants to devote to remain will help? I think. I think the | :56:09. | :56:16. | |
government will try to make things as clear as possible and I am hoping | :56:17. | :56:19. | |
that this case and actually in my present an argument that I can | :56:20. | :56:24. | |
sympathise with. Possibly. But I do not know what is in it. It is about | :56:25. | :56:34. | |
this big. Black and Whites. I very much agree with Jarel, but it would | :56:35. | :56:41. | |
hopefully persuade me to make a decision, yes! Do you feel a big | :56:42. | :56:48. | |
responsibility when it comes to this vote? There are still ten weeks. | :56:49. | :56:54. | |
There is still plenty of time. But it is your decision. This is the | :56:55. | :57:00. | |
future of your country! I do feel a lot of responsibility, I keep | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
thinking of the next generation and generations after us who will have | :57:05. | :57:08. | |
to live with this decision. Who knows how long it will be until | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
another referendum. And for me, that is quite important because I feel a | :57:13. | :57:19. | |
sense of responsibility. Are you having any conversations with | :57:20. | :57:21. | |
friends and relatives about this? Or are you getting on with life in the | :57:22. | :57:28. | |
real world? I have spoken to my father-in-law about it, we have | :57:29. | :57:32. | |
discussed about leaving and which side is better but I said I am still | :57:33. | :57:38. | |
undecided. I really do hope that politicians and Jeremy Corbyn today | :57:39. | :57:43. | |
will address something that would help me relate to what he says, | :57:44. | :57:50. | |
basically. But yes, I have not spoken to many people, I have been | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
looking on my own, in my own time, just getting on with my life and I | :57:56. | :57:59. | |
still do not understand what is going on! Like a lot of people. You | :58:00. | :58:06. | |
will watch the speech from Jeremy Corbyn and we will talk to but | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
afterwards to see if it resonates in any way. And we will hear Jeremy | :58:10. | :58:17. | |
Corbyn speaking live just after 10am. That is the audience waiting. | :58:18. | :58:26. | |
Let's get the latest weather update. We have the highest temperature in | :58:27. | :58:30. | |
England so far, reaching 19 degrees yesterday. Don't get used to it, it | :58:31. | :58:35. | |
will get colder over the next 48 hours, cold for some snow over the | :58:36. | :58:40. | |
hills. Some sunshine to start this morning, this was Christchurch, most | :58:41. | :58:46. | |
people started cloudy, this was the scene in Barnsley in West Yorkshire. | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
Across the North, we had thicker cloud bringing showers across North | :58:51. | :58:55. | |
Wales, through Cheshire and the Greater Manchester area and those | :58:56. | :58:58. | |
showers will continue into parts of Yorkshire as well over the next few | :58:59. | :59:02. | |
hours and through the rest of the day the skies will try to brighten | :59:03. | :59:05. | |
up, there will be some decent sunshine to come across south-east | :59:06. | :59:09. | |
England, it will feel warm in the sun and Ted Richards climbing to 18 | :59:10. | :59:14. | |
degrees and staying dry. Further north, some showers breaking out and | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
they will turn heavy and thundery and a change in the weather later | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
on, a band of rain pushing into parts of south-west England and that | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
will turn heavy into the evening. Before North of England, Northern | :59:28. | :59:30. | |
Ireland and Scotland, there will be a lot of cloud around but still some | :59:31. | :59:34. | |
brighter spells getting through at times and temperatures, struggling | :59:35. | :59:38. | |
with highs of eight or 9 degrees for many. Overnight, one area of rain | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
pushing from the south, moving into Central parts of England and Wales | :59:44. | :59:46. | |
but at the same time another band of rain sinking southwards across | :59:47. | :59:52. | |
Scotland and behind this, the air gets significantly colder so it will | :59:53. | :59:55. | |
be cold enough to see some of rain turning to snow over some of the | :59:56. | :59:58. | |
Scottish high ground, April snow for some of us. Friday, these two bands | :59:59. | :00:05. | |
of rain wrecks together, bringing a lot of cloud with outbreaks of rain | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
around and it will be a cooler day across southern areas of England and | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
Wales temperature recent days but not as cold as it will be further | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
north than northerly wind settling in, which we showers on the way and | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
temperatures, for some, around 6 degrees. Through Friday night, this | :00:19. | :00:24. | |
low pressure moves into the continent and that opens the door | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
for cold northerly winds to plunge from the Arctic so it will be chilly | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
for the start of the weekend and we will have an area of rain attention | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
to bringing some flakes of snow over some of the higher hills for easing | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
off. Cold winter Saturday and Ted Richards struggling, highs of 9 | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
degrees in the North and just about poking into double figures in the | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
South but in those colder winds will feel chilly. This weekend that | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
starting especially well, things getting drier and brighter through | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
Sunday at it will stay on the cool side as well but the best sunshine | :00:57. | :00:57. | |
likely towards the south-west. Good morning. I am Victoria | :00:58. | :01:09. | |
Derbyshire and welcome to the programme. Jeremy Corbyn has spent a | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
lot of his career criticising the European Union and in a few minutes | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
he will give a speech setting out why he thinks you should vote to | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
stay in the EU in June's vote. We will bring you the speech live in a | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
minute or two. We will be discussing whether 15-year-olds should be | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
taught that delayed parenthood leads to problems having children. This is | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
a debate that has got to talking. Clearly, this is a message about | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
biology and understanding of bodies and biology. It is about eggs, the | :01:41. | :01:48. | |
production of eggs,... And the number of eggs decline in your 30s? | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
Absolutely. You can see the full discussion on our programme page: | :01:54. | :01:59. | |
And two months after we told you about a series of cat killings | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
across London, get more have been found dead. | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
We talked to one victim's owner and those trying to catch the killer. | :02:06. | :02:14. | |
Ben Brown is in the BBC newsroom with a summary of the day's news. | :02:15. | :02:27. | |
is to make his first significant intervention in the European | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
In a speech in central London in the next few minutes, he is expected to | :02:32. | :02:37. | |
say that the EU provides workers rights as well as environmental | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
protection. He will acknowledge shortcomings in Brussels but will | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
argue that reform should be sought for within. We will bring you that | :02:45. | :02:45. | |
speech live a very shortly. Two migrants, who are | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
believed to be from Iran, have been rescued from an inflatable | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
boat off the coast of Dover. They were picked up by a lifeboat | :02:52. | :02:53. | |
after eight hours at sea. A passing ferry helped to locate | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
them after spotting a light Delays in accident and emergency | :02:57. | :03:08. | |
units in England have had regular levels for the second month in a | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
row. Figures show 87.8% of patients were dealt with within the four | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
hours. The target is 95%. Delays in discharging patients who were ready | :03:20. | :03:21. | |
to leave hospital remained at historically high levels. Five | :03:22. | :03:29. | |
police officers were injured during a confrontation in Sheffield last | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
night with a man armed with an axe. The man was arrested on suspicion of | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
attentive murder. Several large investors in the oil giant, BP, | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
planned to vote against a decision to give a 20% pay rise to its Chief | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
Executive. They are angry that his pay packet will rise to almost ?40 | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
billion -- ?40 million at a time when BP's profits are falling and | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
jobs are being lost. The company defended the increase, saying that | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
his performance has surpassed expectations. Stephan Stern is from | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
a research group looking into executive pay and told this | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
programme that the increases seems odd at the current time. His pension | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
is going up hugely as part of this deal and that is a pretty tough | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
message for former BP employees who are perhaps more concerned about | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
their future now. And for talented people in the industry, they look at | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
BP and they think, is that where I want to go? This is a CEO that seems | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
to be getting rewarded for getting rid of people during a time of | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
losses. Is that of the career path I want to? Is that the culture I want | :04:33. | :04:40. | |
to join? This is problematic and that is not a good business decision | :04:41. | :04:41. | |
for the company. Two teenage girls have been arrested | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
on suspicion of kidnapping a three-year-old girl | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
in Newcastle city centre. Police launched a large scale search | :04:49. | :04:49. | |
after the child went missing from the Primark store | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
in Northumberland Street She was found just over an hour | :04:53. | :04:54. | |
later a few miles away in Gosforth. The 13 and 14 year old teenagers | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
are in custody on suspicion The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
have arrived in Bhutan on the fifth They touched down in | :05:02. | :05:09. | |
the country this morning. They were greeted by aborigines girl | :05:10. | :05:17. | |
and boy bearing bunches of flowers. They are expected to spend the day | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
watching a traditional archery match and meeting the King and queen of | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
this small Himalayan kingdom. That is the summary of the latest BBC | :05:28. | :05:29. | |
News. Back to Victoria. Thanks for your comments about | :05:30. | :05:37. | |
whether teenagers should be taught about the risks of delaying | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
parenthood. Cassie says, I am 39 and struggling with fertility and I | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
wished I knew how hard it was. Matt Dea says 15-year-old are too young | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
for exposure to fertility. Don't bombard kids with this. And from | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
Rebecca, I am 31 and sick of being told I need to have children now. I | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
live in a rented flat and my job is not secure. Surely this is not the | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
right situation to have a child just because I may experience fertility | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
issues. If you are texting, you will be charged at the usual network | :06:10. | :06:17. | |
rate. Here is the sport. We're talking netball this morning because | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
Manchester Thunder and Yorkshire Jets are on the verge of history | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
ahead of an end of season clash on Monday. I am delighted to say that | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
Sara Bayman is with me. You can tell us better than most, why are these | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
teams about to enter the record books? Hopefully it will be the | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
biggest domestic game ever in this country. We are holding it in the | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
Manchester Arena and hoping for a massive crowd. With it being a | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
Yorkshire, yanking the -- Yorkshire and Lancashire rivalry, we hope to | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
get a lot of support. How many fans are you expecting? At the moment, | :06:52. | :06:59. | |
the record is 6500, so if we can get close to that, we will be happy. | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
What would it be like to play in front of 6000 fans? The bigger the | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
crowd, the better. It gives you such a buzz. It really motivates you to | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
put up a good performance. This is one of two a good performance is | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
announced today because it has been announced that English players will | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
be professional now. How much of a difference will that make? It could | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
make a huge difference in terms of having netball to focus on in the | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
run-up to the World Cup. We want to do really well in the World Cup and | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
going full-time, that will give us that edge. It seems that netball, | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
people are taking an interest in it and really enjoying it at the | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
moment. Is that there? I think the media coverage has really gone up. | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
The fact that women's sport is generally on the rise, it has given | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
netball a boost, with the number of people coming to the games and | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
watching it on TV. Hopefully that will continue. What is it about | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
Liverpool that has captured people's attention? -- what is it about | :07:59. | :08:06. | |
netball. The fact that it is a sport is fantastic, providing girls with | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
role models. And it is so fast and physical. People come to the live | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
game and they did not realise how fast it was. It gives you an | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
appreciation of that, better than on TV. The home World Cup in 2019 in | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
Liverpool. That is going to be tough, especially when you consider | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
the dominance of teams like Australia and New Zealand. I think | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
of the league in Australia is so strong that they keep pushing each | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
other to the next level. For us, it is about trying to overtake them and | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
hopefully with a home crowd behind us in Liverpool we can do something | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
special and break the dominance of the top two. With international | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
players going professional, do you see a day when players at club level | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
are able to go full-time? I think that is the aspiration. Events like | :08:53. | :09:03. | |
this show how professional the sport has become and how seriously | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
everyone is taking it. I do so much for joining us. That is all the | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
sport for now. -- thank you so much. And that match will be at the | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
Manchester Arena on Monday. And you both. Thanks for tuning in. | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
The Labour Party is campaigning to stay in the European Union | :09:22. | :09:23. | |
in June's referendum - the majority of the party's | :09:24. | :09:25. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is making his first speech about it. Here he is. Thank | :09:26. | :09:41. | |
you very much. Like Alan, I am delighted to be here in Senate | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
house, this wonderful art deco building. Of course, it is where | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
George Orwell based his novel, 1984, this building was the Ministry of | :09:51. | :09:59. | |
truth. Let us see! Thanks for coming, everyone, today. Thanks to | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
all of those who organise the day's event. Critical events do not happen | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
by accident. The Labour Party did not happen by accident, we are | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
essentially a massive voluntary organisation trying to change the | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
lives of everyone in this country for the better. That is what the | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
Labour Party is about. I thank you all for coming today, and for your | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
work within the party. The people in this country faced a historic | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
decision on the 23rd of June, whether to remain part of the | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
European Union or to leave. I welcome the fact that that decision | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
is now in the hands of the people. Indeed, I voted to support a | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
referendum during the last Parliament. The move to hold this | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
referendum may have been more about managing divisions of the | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
Conservative Party, but it is now a crucial democratic opportunity for | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
people to have their say on our country's future and the future of | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
our continent us all. As Allen explained, the Labour Party is | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
overwhelmingly for staying in, because we believe the European | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
Union has brought investment, jobs and protection for workers, | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
consumers and the environment, and offers the best chance of meeting | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
the challenges that we face in the 21st century. Labour is convinced | :11:13. | :11:19. | |
that the vote to remain in is in the best interests of the people in this | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
country. In the coming century, we face absolutely huge challenges. As | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
a people, as a condiment, and as a global community. How to deal with | :11:29. | :11:37. | |
climate change, how to address the power of global corporations and | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
ensure that they paid their taxes, how to tackle cyber crime and | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
terrorism, how to ensure that we trade fairly and protect jobs and | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
pay in and year of globalisation. How to address the causes of the | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
huge refugee movements across the world. -- in an era. There are now | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
more people than any time in recorded history who are refugees | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
across the planet. And how do we adapt to a world where people | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
everywhere move more frequently to live, work and retire? All of these | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
issues are serious and pressing, and self-evidently require international | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
cooperation. Collective international action through the | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
European Union is clearly going to help meet these vital challenges. | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
Britain will be stronger if we cooperate with our neighbours in | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
facing those challenges together. Portugal's new socialist Prime | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
Minister, a good friend, Antonio Costa, said this. In the face of all | :12:43. | :12:50. | |
these crises around the world, we must not divide Europe, we must | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
strengthen it. When the last referendum was held in 1975, Europe | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
was divided by the Cold War and what later became the EU was much | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
smaller, purely market-driven in nature. Over the years, I and many | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
others have been very critical of many decisions taken by the EU and I | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
remain very critical of its shortcomings. From its lack of | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
democratic accountability, to the institutional pressures to | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
deregulate or privatise public services. So Europe needs to change. | :13:20. | :13:26. | |
But that change can only come from working with our allies in the | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
European Union to achieve it. It is perfect with possible to be critical | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
and still be convinced that we need to remain a member. I have had a few | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
differences with the direction the Labour Party has taken over the past | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
few years, some people may have noticed. But I have been sure that | :13:44. | :13:52. | |
it was right to stay as a member of the party. I joined the Labour Party | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
when I was 16 and I am proud of that. Some might say that I have | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
managed to do something more recently about changing the | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
direction of the Labour Party and I am enjoying that as well. In | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
contrast, four decades ago, the EU of today brought together most of | :14:08. | :14:14. | |
the countries in Europe, and has developed important employment, | :14:15. | :14:15. | |
environmental and consumer protections. I have listened closely | :14:16. | :14:22. | |
to the views of trade Unions, environmental groups, human rights | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
organisations and, of course, the Labour Party members and supporters | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
and fellow members of Parliament. They are overwhelmingly convinced | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
that we can best make a positive difference by remaining in Europe, | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
and Britain needs to stay in the EU as the best framework for trade, | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
manufacturing and cooperation in the 21st century. Tens of billions of | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
pounds worth of investment and millions of jobs are linked to our | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
relationship with the EU. The biggest market in the world. EU | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
membership has guaranteed working people vital employment rights, | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
including four weeks paid holiday, maternity and paternity leave, the | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
protection for agency workers, health and safety in the workplace. | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
Being in the EU has raised our environmental staters from beaches | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
to ear quality, protecting consumers from rip-off charges. But we also | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
need to make the case for reforming Europe. The reform that David | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
Cameron's government has no interest in but plenty of others across | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
Europe do. That means democratic reform, to make the EU more | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
accountable to the people. Economic reform to end self-defeating | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
austerity and put jobs and sustainable growth at the centre of | :15:39. | :15:39. | |
European policy. APPLAUSE. | :15:40. | :15:52. | |
Labour market reform to strengthen and extend the rights of workers in | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
a real social Europe. And new rights for governments and elected | :16:00. | :16:02. | |
authorities to support public enterprise and halt the pressure to | :16:03. | :16:09. | |
privatise services. The case I am making for remaining and reform in | :16:10. | :16:16. | |
Europe, today is the global day of action for fast food workers rights. | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
In the US, workers are demanding $15 per hour, in the UK, ?10, Labour is | :16:23. | :16:29. | |
an internationalist party and socialists have understood from the | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
earliest days of the movement that workers need to make common cause | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
across national borders. Working together in Europe has led to | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
significant gains for workers in Britain and we are determined to | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
deliver further progressive reform. The democratic Europe of social | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
justice and workers rights that people throughout the continent want | :16:51. | :16:57. | |
to see. Real reform will mean making aggressive alliances across Europe, | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
something the Conservatives will never do and probably do not | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
understand. Take, for example, the crisis in the steel industry. It is | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
a global problem and a challenge to many European governments. So why is | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
it that only the British Government has failed so copper survey to act | :17:15. | :17:22. | |
to save steel production at home? The European Commission proposed new | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
tariffs on Chinese steel bodied was the British Government that blocked | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
those coordinated efforts to stop Chinese steel dumping. Those | :17:29. | :17:37. | |
proposals are still on the table. Today, I asked David Cameron and | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
George Osborne to start sticking up for steel in this country and work | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
with our willing European partners to secure the future of this | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
absolutely vital industry. It is in their hands. | :17:50. | :17:50. | |
APPLAUSE. There are certainly problems about | :17:51. | :18:02. | |
EU state aid rules which need reform. But if, as the Leeds side | :18:03. | :18:11. | |
argues, the European Union is a problem, how is it that Germany, | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
Italy, France and Spain have done much better at protecting their | :18:17. | :18:18. | |
steel industry than the British Government? Again, I say to David | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
Cameron and George Osborne, act now to defend and support our steel | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
industry. It is because those other countries who have acted within EU | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
state aid rules to support their industries whether by taking a | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
public stake, investing in research, providing guarantees or compensating | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
for energy costs. It is not the EU that is a problem at the | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
Conservative problem in Britain -- government in Britain that does not | :18:49. | :18:50. | |
recognise the strategic importance of the steel industry. It is | :18:51. | :18:59. | |
important for the economy and jobs and skills of those communities. | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
Communities that are not going through such tension and pressure as | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
they are fearful for the future of their jobs. And all of the local | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
community that goes with them. The Conservative government has blocked | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
action on Chinese steel dumping, it has cut investment in infrastructure | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
that would have created demand for more steel and had no procurement | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
strategy to support our steel industry. A Labour government would | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
have worked very differently with partners across Europe to stand up | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
for steel production in this country. That is what a Labour | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
government would do, so differently to what his government is doing. The | :19:38. | :19:44. | |
European Union has 28 countries and 520 million people. It could have | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
made it stronger by defending the steel industry together, the actions | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
of the Conservative government have weakened us. The jobs created by | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
this government are too often low skill, low pay and insecure. If we | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
harness the potential of Europe, we could be doing far more to defend | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
high skill jobs in the steel industry and that goes for other | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
employers of high skilled staff as well, Airbus, Nissan, they made it | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
clear that the choice to invest in Britain is strengthened by | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
membership of the European Union. Of course, the Conservatives are | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
loyally committed to protecting one very important British industry and | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
you have to take your hat off to them for the massive defence they | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
are making of this one... That is the tax avoidance | :20:34. | :20:34. | |
APPLAUSE. The most telling revelation about | :20:35. | :20:48. | |
our Prime Minister has not been about his own tax affairs but that | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
in 2013, he personally intervened with the European Commission | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
president to undermine an EU drive to reveal the beneficiaries of | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
offshore trusts. And even now, in the wake of the Panama Papers, he | :21:07. | :21:13. | |
still will not act, as Prime Minister 's Question Time revealed | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
yesterday. On six different occasions since the beginning of | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
last year, Conservative members of the European Parliament voted down | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
attempts to take action against tax dodging. Doesn't that tell you | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
everything you need to know about the Conservative Party? Labour has | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
allies across Europe appeared to take on this global network of the | :21:33. | :21:35. | |
corrupt and we will work with them to clamp down on those determined to | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
suck wealth from the economy and the pockets of the people. On Tuesday, | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
the EU announced a step forward on country by country reporting. We | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
believe we can go further but even this modest measure was opposed by | :21:52. | :21:58. | |
Conservative MEPs last December. Left to themselves, it is clear that | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
the main boat leave division is for Britain to be the safe haven of | :22:05. | :22:07. | |
choice for the ill gotten gains of every oligarch dictator or a | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
corporation, they believe this tiny elite is what matters and not the | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
rest of us, who they dismiss as low achievers. I am sorry. Some would | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
argue the need to leave the European Union because the single market | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
rules are driving deregulation and privatisation. They certainly need | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
reform but it is not the European Union that privatised railways, it | :22:34. | :22:36. | |
was the Conservative government of John Major. And many of our railways | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
are run by other nations, publicly owned real companies so they are | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
publicly owned but not by our own public. They have not made the | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
mistake of asset stripping their own companies. Labour is committed to | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
bringing it back into public ownership in 2020 and that is why | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
Labour members of the European Parliament are opposing any element | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
of the Forth rail package being discussed before the European | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
Parliament that might make that more difficult and we are clear, we want | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
railways back on public lands to be run for the benefit of the people of | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
this country. The Transatlantic Trade Investment Partnership is also | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
a huge cause for concern. But we defeated a similar proposal before | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
in Europe when it was called a multilateral agreement on investment | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
back in 1998 and Labour MPs are rightly opposing the investor state | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
dispute mechanism and any attempt to enforce privatisation of public | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
services to reduce consumer rights, workplace protections or | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
environmental standards. We will not be part of a race to the bottom. We | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
want the race to go up and not land on the living standards and | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
environmental standards of everybody across | :23:54. | :23:54. | |
APPLAUSE. -- go down. The free-market | :23:55. | :24:07. | |
enthusiasts in the league campaign would put all of those protections | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
at risk. Labour is building alliances to safeguard them. We must | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
also put human rights at the centre of the trade agreements. Absolutely | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
at the centre. Not as an optional add-on. We already have allies | :24:23. | :24:29. | |
across Europe to do that. And the EU is vital for promoting human rights | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
at home. As a result of European Union directives and regulations, | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
disabled people are protected from discrimination. Lifts, cars and | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
buses must be accessible. Like sea and air travel. It was a Labour | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
government that signed the Human Rights Act into UK law. The | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
transferred power not to Brussels but individual citizens to stand up | :24:55. | :25:02. | |
for and defend their human rights, human rights are global, universal | :25:03. | :25:05. | |
and have to be defended for all time. These are the rights we have | :25:06. | :25:11. | |
achieved for ourselves. Climate change is the greatest threat that | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
humanity faces this century. And no country, Britain certainly not, | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
cannot tackle this alone. We could have the best policies possible but | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
unless we act together internationally, it is worthless. It | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
was a Labour government that brought in the climate change, John Prescott | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
played a key role in getting people took at Kyoto that led to debate | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
within the European Union. But despite David Cameron pledging to | :25:40. | :25:50. | |
lead the greenest government ever... That was the hug a huskie period! | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
Briton still lags behind, we have much to learn from what Germany has | :25:55. | :26:01. | |
done in particular. The Conservative government has cut subsidies for | :26:02. | :26:03. | |
solar power while increasing subsidies for diesel, it has cut | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
regular at your burdens, as they describe them, on fracking get | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
increased regulations on onshore wind production. They say one thing | :26:13. | :26:20. | |
but do another. Again, it has been regulations agreed in Europe that | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
have improved our beaches and waterways and that are forcing us to | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
tackle this candle of air pollution all over this country, including in | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
this very city of London. -- the scandal. If not dealt with, it will | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
kill 500,000 people in this country by 2025, we have to act on air | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
pollution by enforcing those relations. Working together in | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
Europe is vital to tackle climate change and firebug in protecting the | :26:53. | :26:59. | |
environment that we share. -- vital. The point about environmental issues | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
is this... If you pollute the air, the wind takes it across national | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
borders, if you throw rubbish into the sea, the current will bring it | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
to somebody else, but only clean up the air and the seas by | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
international regulation and cooperation, you cannot do it on | :27:17. | :27:17. | |
your There is no doubt that debate about | :27:18. | :27:33. | |
European Union membership will focus strongly on jobs and migration. We | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
live in an increasingly globalised world. Many of us will study, work | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
or even retire abroad. At some point in our lives. Free movement has | :27:45. | :27:52. | |
created opportunities for people. British people and others. There are | :27:53. | :27:54. | |
nearly three quarters of a million British people living in Spain and | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
over 2 million in other parts of Europe. Learning abroad, working | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
abroad, it increases opportunities and skills and migration brings | :28:06. | :28:08. | |
benefits as well as talent race at home. But it is only if there is | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
government action to train enough skilled workers to stop the | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
exploitation of migrant Labour by undercutting wages, to invest in | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
local services and housing in areas of rapid population growth that they | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
will be felt across the country. And this government has done nothing of | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
the sort, its failure to train enough skilled workers means we have | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
become reliant on migration to keep the economy functioning. This is | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
especially true of the National Health Service, which depends on | :28:42. | :28:47. | |
migrant nurses and doctors to fill vacancies. This government has | :28:48. | :28:51. | |
failed to invest in training and its abolition of the bursaries for | :28:52. | :28:54. | |
nurses and the decision to pick a fight with the brilliant junior | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
doctors is likely to make the shortages worse, not | :28:58. | :28:58. | |
As Alan explained in his introduction, both of us are trade | :28:59. | :29:17. | |
unionists and I used to be a full-time trade union organiser | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
within the National Health Service as well as local government. And | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
I've found you our NHS absolutely. -- I value. And I admire the | :29:28. | :29:32. | |
dedication of the staff, it is the proudest creation of the Labour | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
Party and even nine it will be in an even greater crisis if many in the | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
Leave camp have their way, some of whom have argued against the | :29:43. | :29:45. | |
National Health Service and the very principle of health care free at the | :29:46. | :29:53. | |
point of use for everybody. And, of course, it is European Union | :29:54. | :29:55. | |
regulations that underpin many rights of workers, holiday | :29:56. | :30:01. | |
entitlement, a charity leave, White city breaks aren't limits on how | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
many hours we work and that has helped improve protection for agency | :30:06. | :30:11. | |
workers. The Tories and Ukip are on record as saying they would like to | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
cut back on EU guaranteed workplace rights if they could. A Labour | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
government would instead strengthen rights of work, picking common cause | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
with allies to raise employment standards throughout Europe, to stop | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
the undercutting of wages and conditions by unscrupulous employers | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
who want to achieve greater exploitation. We want to strengthen | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
the protection of every worker all over Europe, not just in Britain. | :30:41. | :30:42. | |
Just imagine what the Tories would do to workers' writes here in | :30:43. | :30:57. | |
Britain if we voted to leave the EU in June? They would dump writes on | :30:58. | :31:03. | |
equal pay, working time, annual leave, maternity pay, as far as -- | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
as fast as they could get away with it. It would be a bonfire of rights | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
that Labour governments have secured and trade unions have helped to | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
secure this continent. Not only that, it would not be a Labour | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
government negotiating for a better settlement in Europe, it would be a | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
Tory government quite possibly led by Boris Johnson and backed by Nigel | :31:25. | :31:31. | |
Farage. Think about that. That would negotiate the worst of all worlds, a | :31:32. | :31:37. | |
free-market free for all, without rights or protections for people | :31:38. | :31:42. | |
across this continent. It is sometimes easier to blame the EU or, | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
worse, blame foreigners, and face up to our own problems. At the head of | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
which, right now, is a Conservative government that is failing the | :31:52. | :31:54. | |
people of Britain. There is nothing remotely patriotic about selling off | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
our country and our national assets to the highest bidder or handing | :32:00. | :32:08. | |
control to city hedge fund is or corporations based in offshore tax | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
havens. There is a strong socialist case for staying in the European | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
Union, just as there is also a powerful socialist case for reform | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
and progressive change in Europe. That is why we need a Labour | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
government to stand up at the European level for industries and | :32:25. | :32:30. | |
communities in Britain, to back public ownership and public | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
services, to protect and extend workers rights, and to work with our | :32:35. | :32:37. | |
allies to make both Britain and Europe work better for working | :32:38. | :32:44. | |
people. Many people are still weighing up how they will vote in | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
this referendum and I appeal to everyone, especially young people, | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
who will live the longest and have the bigger the consequence is the | :32:52. | :32:54. | |
longest, to make sure you are registered to vote, and vote to keep | :32:55. | :32:59. | |
Britain in Europe this June. It is about your future. By working | :33:00. | :33:04. | |
together across our continent, we can develop our economies, protect | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
social and human rights, tackle climate change and clamp down on tax | :33:09. | :33:16. | |
dodgers. You cannot build a better world unless you engage with the | :33:17. | :33:19. | |
world. Build allies and deliver change. The European Union, many | :33:20. | :33:25. | |
warts and all, has proved itself to be a crucial international calling | :33:26. | :33:33. | |
work -- framework to do that. That is why we are backing the campaign | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
for Britain to remain in Europe and I hope you will, too. | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
APPLAUSE. STUDIO: We are expecting a couple of | :33:40. | :34:00. | |
questions to Jeremy Corbyn from journalists so we will stay with | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
this for a second or two. We have time for some questions. First of | :34:07. | :34:09. | |
all, from Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC. They do very much. Mr Corbyn, | :34:10. | :34:20. | |
let's go for the Ministry of Truth, you have voted against the EU many | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
times. Before today you branded some of its policy is crazy and immoral. | :34:25. | :34:32. | |
Do you now describe yourself as a pro European? And also, you have | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
barely mentioned one of the things that really matters to many of our | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
viewers about the EU, the number of people coming from other countries | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
in the EU to this country. Do you think too many people from other | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
parts of the EU have come to live and work in the UK? I don't think | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
too many have come. I think the issue has to be of wages and | :34:51. | :34:57. | |
regulations, which I included in my speech. And it is employers that try | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
to undercut industrywide agreements, in the construction industry and | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
others, that are the problem, hence the agency workers issued that I | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
raised in my speech, as well as minimum wages. There has to be a | :35:12. | :35:17. | |
case for a minimum wage tied to the cost of living across the continent. | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
There is nothing wrong with people migrating to work around the | :35:21. | :35:22. | |
continent but there has to be a level playing field on pay and | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
conditions. What we have is unscrupulous employers doing that. | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
Yes, I have been critical of many things within the European Union. I | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
think you will probably have gathered from my speech that I have | :35:37. | :35:41. | |
been critical. This is a decision about whether we stay in and argue | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
for the kind of socially just Europe that I want, that our party once, | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
that the vast majority of trade unions and ordinary people in this | :35:50. | :35:52. | |
country want, we walk away from it. That. That is the decision that has | :35:53. | :35:58. | |
been made. Does it mean I recount on everything I have ever said or done? | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
Absolutely not, and I am sorry about that. STUDIO: Let's leave the Jeremy | :36:02. | :36:08. | |
Corbyn and the journalists and the audience. And let's talk to our two | :36:09. | :36:13. | |
undecided voters. Kerry Gadd and Jarel | :36:14. | :36:15. | |
Robinson-Brown. Kerry is undecided but possibly | :36:16. | :36:27. | |
leading towards a vote to exit, and Jarel is tempted to stay. What did | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
you think, Jarel? An interesting speech. I come from a leftist family | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
and we tend to be a bunch of socialist sympathisers. I sympathise | :36:37. | :36:42. | |
with what he is saying, and I was glad to hear him speaking in simple | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
terms. This is a man who is very simple, as a lot of personal | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
integrity, and is full of righteous indignation. He is attractive to | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
many young people who feel the same. I think it was nice to hear him | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
speak about climate as well because I think that is crucial. Do you | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
believe him to humanity has made dozens of hostile comments about the | :37:06. | :37:11. | |
European Union in the past. I think he showed that actually he has truly | :37:12. | :37:20. | |
changed his opinion. We know that. As he sealed the deal for you? Do | :37:21. | :37:27. | |
you vote to remain now? Not yet but I'm closer. What will it take over | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
the next ten weeks? I think I want to hear more detailed breakdowns. He | :37:32. | :37:37. | |
is very good at naming people and situations when he is doing PMQs, | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
but perhaps he could do the same thing and say, Michelle in | :37:42. | :37:52. | |
Birmingham is going to be this much in a worse position because Britain | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
is not part of the EU. I would like to hear more personal perspectives | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
on the figures. Steelworkers, that is important. Interesting. Kerry, | :38:02. | :38:08. | |
what do you think? It was a very interesting speech. You don't have | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
to say that. We brought you here to watch it. I felt that he was trying | :38:14. | :38:22. | |
to demonise the Tories and you get quite a lot in his speech. Does that | :38:23. | :38:28. | |
turn you off? Not really. I do agree with him on many points. Addressing | :38:29. | :38:37. | |
that some of them have been involved in tax dodging and that kind of | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
thing. I feel like everyone should have their share. I paid council tax | :38:42. | :38:48. | |
in where I live, and I pay to stay where I am. Other people, the Tories | :38:49. | :38:55. | |
who are our government, tax dodging, that is slightly unfair. How is that | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
relevance to the European Union? The Conservatives that he mentioned, | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
David Cameron and keep both agree on a vote to stay in the European | :39:05. | :39:11. | |
Union. I think a lot of people want to vote just so that the Tories can | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
save money, so that they can have more for themselves. That is what I | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
believe. Are you closer to making up your mind? I didn't expect to you to | :39:24. | :39:32. | |
be. 20 very much. We will talk again over the next few weeks. Norman | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
Smith was listening to that speech. -- thank you very much. What do you | :39:38. | :39:44. | |
draw from that? Jeremy Corbyn list of the things that he things are | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
good about being part of the European Union, working together to | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
tackle the environment, pushing forward on employment rights, | :39:53. | :39:54. | |
curbing the powers of multinationals. The list of things | :39:55. | :39:57. | |
that are good about it but you got the sense that it was almost the | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
bare minimum. He had to say that. He made no bones about the fact that he | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
has been highly critical and remains critical. He is restated his | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
opposition to this trade deal with the US, TTIP, which he says could | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
lead to a race to the bottom. He answered my colleague's question, | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
saying he did not think there were too many EU migrants. I think Mr | :40:19. | :40:24. | |
Corbyn's difficulty with this is that up till very recently he has | :40:25. | :40:30. | |
been quite openly hostile to much of what the European Union has been | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
about. We are not talking about way back in the midst of time. We are | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
talking about within the last few months. He has been critical of the | :40:38. | :40:43. | |
bailout, saying that it treats grease lightly debtors colony. He | :40:44. | :40:51. | |
said that they should campaign for withdrawal in his campaign. -- it | :40:52. | :40:58. | |
treats grease like a debtors colony. He has a lot to do if he is to | :40:59. | :41:05. | |
generally convince people that he is hugely enthusiastic about staying in | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
the European Union, or whether they are saying it through gritted teeth | :41:11. | :41:13. | |
because the rest of the party is staring down and saying, come on, | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
get on board. My sense today is that this was the first step. People will | :41:19. | :41:21. | |
want to see him coming out again and again and making this case. On that, | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
his aides say that he will not be doing anything else until after the | :41:27. | :41:29. | |
local elections which means that he is only going to be doing pro | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
European campaigning in the last three or four weeks. And a lot of | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
people are saying, come on, get out there now. Thanks, Norman. | :41:38. | :41:45. | |
Next, the Army has described people in Britain as a bunch of time | :41:46. | :41:54. | |
wasters as they begin a recruitment drive for new stories. They found | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
that 80% of 18-35 year olds spend the equivalent of a day each week on | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
social media or gaming. Could young people be persuaded to turn | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
themselves away from that? And instead, joined the reserves? Lets | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
talk to major lettuce and wood, a former officer in the Parachute | :42:15. | :42:17. | |
Regiment. Thank you for talking to us. Why are people not joining the | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
reserves? I think the biggest barrier is that there is a perceived | :42:25. | :42:30. | |
idea that they do not have enough time, that there is not enough time | :42:31. | :42:33. | |
and there is a huge commitment involved. That is not the case. The | :42:34. | :42:38. | |
minimum requirement to join some units in the reserves is just 19 | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
days a year. When you add up all those days that people spend on | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
Facebook and social media, in their own words from this study, they are | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
wasting time. Actually, then, the are better ways to spend your time | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
and I could recommend joining the reserves. It is something I did from | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
young age and it has been on afterwards. What do you do in the | :43:01. | :43:13. | |
reserves? My job is buried. -- my job is varied. We train allied | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
soldiers and work with the media. It is a varied role, everything from | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
infantry training to parachuting to mountain climbing. I think the Army | :43:23. | :43:26. | |
reserve offers a varied part-time career that can really can't comment | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
whatever your civilian job is. Is it young people themselves saying that | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
they are wasting time or is it the Army saying they are time wasters? | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
This is from the horses mouth. It is a study conducted that shows that a | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
lot of people admit to wasting time, spending up to two hours a day | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
sitting and watching TV, an hour a day on Facebook, and all of this | :43:52. | :43:54. | |
mounts up to a lot of time that could be spent better. But maybe not | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
in their opinion. Maybe the idea of being on social media is way more | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
attractive than leaping around as an Army reserve 19 days a year. That is | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
not what the study has shown. People have been asked, how would you like | :44:09. | :44:11. | |
to spend your time, what would you like to be doing? Of the study came | :44:12. | :44:14. | |
back with a lot of good feedback saying that people really want to be | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
trying new things, going to new places and making new friends. But | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
actually, what has happened is that people are in their comforts on, | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
going on social media, because it is an easy win. You get the likes on | :44:29. | :44:33. | |
Facebook or Twitter, and before you know it, an hour has disappeared. Do | :44:34. | :44:41. | |
you get paid? Of course you do. It is a job like any other. What is the | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
rate? It depends on your rank. It starts off at ?36, or just over, for | :44:48. | :44:52. | |
a shorter, going up to ?63 for an officer. A day, a week? A day. That | :44:53. | :44:59. | |
could be a good supplement to your income. Banking is a youth worker | :45:00. | :45:08. | |
from Cardiff. -- Danny King. Let's clarify, it is not the Army | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
describing young people as a bunch of time wasters, it is young people | :45:13. | :45:15. | |
that think they do not have time because they are busy on social | :45:16. | :45:18. | |
media and gaming and all the rest of it. I don't think that is | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
necessarily true, Victoria. Lots of young people are just not interested | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
in joining the Army. A lot of people take references from the TV shows, | :45:30. | :45:38. | |
like Knock the cap next week -- Mock the week, and they do not want to be | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
involved in it. Is that your own view? No. I work with drug users and | :45:44. | :45:50. | |
young offenders, people from disadvantaged backgrounds, and they | :45:51. | :45:53. | |
are just not interested. They really just want to be involved in things | :45:54. | :45:56. | |
in their local community and they want to help people. As the major | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
said, they want to be involved and they want to learn new skills and | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
help out but they want to do it within their own community. Rather | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
than doing it for their country? I think the thing is that a lot of | :46:10. | :46:13. | |
disadvantaged areas and areas that are struggling, they really want to | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
just be part of their own community, they want to be involved with what | :46:18. | :46:20. | |
they do on their doorstep and there is not a lot of things that happen | :46:21. | :46:25. | |
across the UK in total which are just local community specific. Young | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
people want to be involved, they want to be doing stuff, but there is | :46:30. | :46:33. | |
not a lot of connection between the two. And so I think that a lot more | :46:34. | :46:42. | |
initiatives need to be aimed specifically at young people, | :46:43. | :46:45. | |
getting them involved in local communities. Thank you very much, | :46:46. | :46:46. | |
Dan. A cat killer in South London appears | :46:47. | :46:55. | |
to be widening the area in which attacks are taking place. Originally | :46:56. | :47:02. | |
described as the Croydon cat ripper, at least 50 deaths can be attributed | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
to the individual. The animals will find with their heads and tails cut | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
off under ?5,000 reward has been put up by the charity Peta to catch the | :47:11. | :47:17. | |
killer. In two months ago we spoke to amber and your child, whose cat | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
was one of those find. On Thursday morning I left Leo I'd, as we do | :47:22. | :47:29. | |
normally, and he never came back. Amber feels devastated by the loss | :47:30. | :47:37. | |
of first son's beloved cat, Leo. He was fined were diluted in a few | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
streets away. He was not one to wonder so I cannot understand... He | :47:42. | :47:47. | |
would not go up to people he did not know so I cannot understand how this | :47:48. | :47:54. | |
person has managed to get him. My mother told me this man was going | :47:55. | :48:01. | |
around, cutting the tales of cats off. I could angry. It was bought | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
for his birthday and he loved that cat, wielded. It was just... He is | :48:08. | :48:18. | |
our little boy, they become part of your family. He was the most | :48:19. | :48:27. | |
important thing I have ever had. I was happy when my mum and dad gave | :48:28. | :48:37. | |
him to me for my birthday. A lot of celebrities have got involved in the | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
campaign, James McVey from The Vamps made this plea on the programme... | :48:42. | :48:47. | |
It is quite horrifying, a pet is a member of the family and I think | :48:48. | :48:54. | |
that it is bad enough losing a cat to accidental circumstances but to | :48:55. | :48:56. | |
find somebody is doing this is horrible. What we're trying to do in | :48:57. | :49:01. | |
The Vamps is raise as much awareness possible to catch the killer. It is | :49:02. | :49:06. | |
rarely upsetting for the family so we are trying to offer to everyone | :49:07. | :49:11. | |
or any group that can help us find the killer. Tony Jenkins is from | :49:12. | :49:19. | |
South Norwood animal rescue and Chief Inspector Mike Butcher from | :49:20. | :49:28. | |
the RSPCA. Saria, your cat was found killed. Tell us what happened. He | :49:29. | :49:35. | |
comes on every morning at 7am and at 7pm, to comfort his dry food which | :49:36. | :49:43. | |
my son dishes out for him. He comes in and out of the cat flap | :49:44. | :49:50. | |
regularly, he is extremely friendly, you just call him and he will come | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
to you. On Thursday he did not his breakfast his dinner and on Friday | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
morning by sunset, should have put out leaflets on the street and I | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
said, go for it, we put leaflets on the street. Asking if anybody has | :50:05. | :50:10. | |
seen him. By 6pm we have not heard anything. My son was not at home, my | :50:11. | :50:18. | |
husband opened the door. The next-door neighbour had | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
unfortunately seen the body of a cat in the bushes two doors away from | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
her that looks like our cat, I husband took photographs of the body | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
and my son came home, he went and collected the body and we did | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
recognise the body was that of Buddy. The body was mutilated, the | :50:40. | :50:49. | |
tail was missing, somebody has wrapped the body and plastic. He was | :50:50. | :50:56. | |
just in bits. It was like a horror movie, it did not feel real. We | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
heard from one of the neighbours who owns a pet shop nearby who said... | :51:01. | :51:12. | |
Please give them a touch... Contact them on Facebook and these people | :51:13. | :51:16. | |
will helped us, they collected the body of Buddy and they said they | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
would pass it to the RSPCA for identification and I have been in | :51:23. | :51:26. | |
touch ever since and they have been ever so comforting, they have been | :51:27. | :51:30. | |
so supportive and they understand that Buddy was not just an animal, | :51:31. | :51:36. | |
he was our baby and he meant everything to my son. Me also. Mike | :51:37. | :51:43. | |
Butcher from the RSPCA, thank you for talking to us. Tell us how this | :51:44. | :51:50. | |
investigation is progressing. Good morning, we're working very closely | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
with the police and it is not an easy investigation because we have | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
to decide which cuts find are part of the investigation and it is | :52:00. | :52:06. | |
awkward but it is horrific and we all have to take notice that the | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
loss of animal to a family, we need to catch this person as quickly as | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
possible. Are you nearer to doing that? Not really, but like anything | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
else, we're looking at all avenues and this is not one with somebody | :52:21. | :52:27. | |
doing it and you investigate, you have a starting point, the problem | :52:28. | :52:33. | |
here, isn't widespread or the same person? Is a copycat? And we have to | :52:34. | :52:42. | |
introduce when the pattern is. How many are you linking in terms of the | :52:43. | :52:50. | |
cases? We have had 20 exam and by a veterinary surgeon who has confirmed | :52:51. | :52:55. | |
that the animals have been mutilated by a human, --, by a sharp | :52:56. | :53:03. | |
implement, we were not sure of that before so that is a common factor, | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
it is not another animal, it is somebody going out with a knife | :53:08. | :53:15. | |
cutting up animals. At one stage, whether that is the cause of death, | :53:16. | :53:19. | |
this person does need to be caught. Tony Jenkins from SNARL, you think | :53:20. | :53:28. | |
this is wider than Croydon and to describe this individual as the | :53:29. | :53:34. | |
Croydon cat killer is inaccurate? We have discovered bodies in North | :53:35. | :53:40. | |
London, there was a cat killed in archway. We do not know until the | :53:41. | :53:45. | |
bodies were examined but we have confirmed cases and all around the | :53:46. | :53:56. | |
M25 area. Calling at the Croydon cat killer, that gives people the | :53:57. | :53:58. | |
indication that outside Croydon they are safe. Most cats are safe, what | :53:59. | :54:05. | |
is the advice? The most obvious, keep your cat indoors and if you | :54:06. | :54:11. | |
have to let cats out, it must be under supervision. Most of the | :54:12. | :54:15. | |
attacks or night but we have had some abductions and murders were | :54:16. | :54:20. | |
cats have gone missing during the day so it is, keep your cat indoors. | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
It could be one person or it could be somebody mimicking what has gone | :54:27. | :54:33. | |
on? It is possible. You would have to be sick to do this in the first | :54:34. | :54:40. | |
place but to copy somebody else? 19 bodies have been confirmed by the | :54:41. | :54:45. | |
RSPCA, the pattern is that it is the same person. It could be all over | :54:46. | :54:52. | |
the place but we need to examine the bodies, 19 cases confirmed, six of | :54:53. | :54:58. | |
them are with the vet, and there are 12 bodies waiting to be excitement | :54:59. | :55:02. | |
so we're already entered 37 and we have as many as 50 other cases that | :55:03. | :55:07. | |
might be linked. From recently? The last two years. Mutilated these | :55:08. | :55:16. | |
going back two years? Yes, some are just photographs of bodies that were | :55:17. | :55:22. | |
buried but we have first hand information and photographs from the | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
person who find the cat and it is similar pattern, there was no no | :55:27. | :55:34. | |
head or tail. Often left on the doorstep of a person who owns the | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
animal. Have you any theories? There is a psychopath or if you | :55:41. | :55:43. | |
psychopaths out there who enjoy killing and mutilating cats. How do | :55:44. | :55:49. | |
you go about trying to track down this person or people? It is a very | :55:50. | :55:58. | |
awkward one because we have to first of all look at the animals, decide | :55:59. | :56:04. | |
which ones are part of the pattern. Amongst the animals, some will be | :56:05. | :56:10. | |
genuinely hit by cars or attacked by foxes, we have to differentiate | :56:11. | :56:17. | |
between those. That is the difficult part. And a lot of it is the public, | :56:18. | :56:25. | |
I have listened to Tony and I would agree. It is a night-time thing. It | :56:26. | :56:31. | |
is keeping the public vigilant and reporting anything suspicious? It | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
has to be a man or somebody out there with a very sharp knife and I | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
would not suggest that anybody close to anybody is doing that but I would | :56:41. | :56:45. | |
say that CCTV, people could keep an eye open, and that will eventually | :56:46. | :56:51. | |
lead us to somebody but then it is deciding which ones were a victim of | :56:52. | :56:56. | |
him or her, or them. Such an open investigation. We're not looking at | :56:57. | :57:04. | |
just Croydon, but far wider. Thank you all very much for coming onto | :57:05. | :57:09. | |
the programme and good luck. Just an update on another story were | :57:10. | :57:12. | |
following, two migrants have been rescued from it any of the coast of | :57:13. | :57:18. | |
Dover. It is ascribed as an inflatable boat off the coast of | :57:19. | :57:21. | |
Dover after being at sea for eight hours. We can show you the dinghy, | :57:22. | :57:28. | |
two men believed to be Iranian filed 999 in the early hours, they did not | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
know the exact position, the lifeboat picked them up one mile | :57:34. | :57:36. | |
from shore after passing very spotted the light from their mobile | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
phone. They have been rescued. Also, we have furthered the Royal bag of | :57:41. | :57:46. | |
Scotland is to cut 600 jobs in its retail division and it is closing 32 | :57:47. | :57:50. | |
branches. That is according to the trade union, Unite. Thank you for | :57:51. | :57:59. | |
your messages. Most of them about fertility and if it is right to talk | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
to young boys and girls about how delaying parenthood might lead to | :58:04. | :58:09. | |
fertility problems later on. An e-mail, totally agree, young women | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
need to be told about the problems of fertility in later life but not | :58:14. | :58:18. | |
at 15, 21 sounds like a good age. Thank you for watching. We're back | :58:19. | :58:24. | |
tomorrow. BBC News from live is next. Have a good day! -- newsroom | :58:25. | :58:27. | |
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