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Vigils have been held to remember the murdered Labour MP Jo Cox. | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
In London, MPs laid flowers and lit candles outside Parliament. | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
And in the village of Birstall where she was shot and stabbed | :00:19. | :00:21. | |
in the street, hundreds packed into the parish church. | :00:22. | :00:28. | |
She was not for money or power, she was a real woman. | :00:29. | :00:42. | |
I am Jane Hill in Birstall where constituents of Jo Cox have been | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
arriving all morning to lay flowers. We will be talking to local people. | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
Also this morning, should Russian track-and-field athletes be allowed | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
As athletics chiefs meet to decide, we'll ask British | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
athletes what they think, following Russia's doping scandal. | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
Here in Paris, we're looking back at an epic day for the Home Nations | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
as England beat Wales, and Northern Ireland | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
send their travelling fans delirious with victory over Ukraine. | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
All three sides afre well placed to make it into the last 16 | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning | :01:19. | :01:35. | |
with reaction throughout the next two hours to the murder of Jo Cox. | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
A little later we'll be hearing from some of her closest colleagues | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
and we'll be asking whether security concerns will now mean our | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
relationship with our local MPs will have to change. | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking | :01:52. | :02:00. | |
about this morning - use the hashtag #victorialive | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
Let's go back to Jane Hill in Birstall. Hello from Birstall, less | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
than ten miles from Leeds, a small market town where you really get the | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
sense that people still can't quite believe that British MP has lost her | :02:19. | :02:25. | |
life. All morning we have been standing here by one of the focal | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
points of the town, the local memorial here, to Joseph Priestley. | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
I have been watching people coming, consistently, to lay flowers. A lady | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
arrived a little while ago with her young daughter, for example, and she | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
said she just wanted to pay her respects. Jo Cox was an MP who | :02:45. | :02:52. | |
helped her, she had cause to go to one of her regular sessions with the | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
public, she wanted help for a problem, and she was very helpful | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
and she wanted to lay flowers for that reason. She particularly | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
remembered that Jo Cox leaves behind her two small children. This lady | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
said, I have children of a similar age myself, and was clearly very | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
upset at the thought of children of such a young age no longer having | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
their mother around. There are so many similar sentiments like that | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
here in this market town. The strength of feeling was illustrated | :03:26. | :03:28. | |
last night with a vigil in a nearby church. It was packed out with | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
hundreds of people attending to remember a much loved local MP. This | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
report from our correspondent Fiona Trott. | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
From all backgrounds and all faiths, they came together | :03:44. | :03:45. | |
A woman who was killed while working for them, | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
She was a people person, she was for us. | :03:53. | :03:59. | |
She had so much warmth and compassion. | :04:00. | :04:12. | |
Police say Jo Cox was stabbed and shot near Birstall village library. | :04:13. | :04:20. | |
She was holding a drop-in session for her local constituents. | :04:21. | :04:22. | |
A guy was bent over the woman, I could see her legs sticking out. | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
The words I heard him say was, Britain first or put Britain first, | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
I can't say exactly what it was, but definitely Britain first | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
The BBC understands the man being arrested is called The BBC | :04:36. | :04:42. | |
understands the man being arrested is called Tommy Mair, | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
Jo Cox was more than an MP, she was a wife and mother. | :04:46. | :04:53. | |
In a statement her husband Brendan Cox said... | :04:54. | :05:10. | |
The very heart of this West Yorkshire village remains | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
And the villagers within it are overcome with grief. | :05:13. | :05:26. | |
We will talk to some local people in the next few minutes but first let's | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
get the thoughts of Fiona Trott, because you have been here since the | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
shocking news emerged, and we make no apology for continuing to use the | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
word shock? That's right, look at all of the flowers that people have | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
been laying since yesterday afternoon, and when you walk around | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
in the local community, the cost Jo Cox was such an important member of | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
the community, she was so well liked and it's not difficult to find | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
someone who says that they were helped or inspired by her. A lady in | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
the hairdressers yesterday said that she had a particular problem and got | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
to know Jo Cox well and realised they had children of the same age, | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
she felt the family's loss. Another woman who was buying flowers at the | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
local market to bring to the memorial said that they voted for Jo | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
Cox and gave her a voice. That voice has been silenced. You get the | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
impression that this MP was interested in them and she | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
represented their interests. That is something that people are finding it | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
hard to come to terms with this morning. A brief thought as well | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
about the investigation and how much do we now at this stage? A | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
52-year-old man is still being questioned by the police. He was | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
named locally as Tommy Mair but that has not been confirmed by police. We | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
understand the house where he lives has a police presence and it was | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
searched yesterday. When you look around the village this morning I'm | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
surprised there is still a huge cordon around the heart | :07:01. | :07:13. | |
of the Market Square. It is still in place. None of it has been lifted | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
overnight and it's difficult to get into the village square. Still a | :07:18. | :07:19. | |
huge police presence with at least three or four police vans by the | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
library where this shooting happened yesterday. The 52-year-old man is | :07:23. | :07:24. | |
still being questioned at the moment. And it's hard not to be | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
simplistic at the time I guess, but it is, even I am struck by almost | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
the look on peoples faces and the fact people are so overwhelmed, the | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
fact that this just isn't meant to happen in Britain, this is not a | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
nation where people have ready access to firearms, and in terms of | :07:44. | :07:50. | |
democracy, we are built on the notion that MPs have face-to-face | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
contact with constituents and we can see how close we are to the library | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
where Jo Cox would have held her surgery, where she would have | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
readily met people. That is why there are so many flowers here today | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
and we can't stress enough how untoward, how bizarre this turn of | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
events is to local people? And MPs should be able to do that, shouldn't | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
they? They should be accessible to their constituents and yet we heard | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
from Rachel Reeves, another local MP, who said her surgery was closed, | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
safety was a concern. I spoke to one of the parents yesterday collecting | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
his son from school, primary school, that was in lockdown yesterday, | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
again, something you don't expect to hear about in Britain. He was | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
concerned about his child. They had no idea what was going on. Even he | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
said that it is not something you expect here, it is difficult for | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
people here to come to terms with it. Thank you very much for now. We | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
will be speaking with Fiona throughout the day. It is very | :08:54. | :09:00. | |
sobering and very moving, to read the tributes on the flowers on the | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
memorial behind me. To give you just one example, someone has written | :09:06. | :09:15. | |
simply, why? You lived for others. We will talk more about Jo Cox's | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
international approach and international work in a few minutes. | :09:20. | :09:29. | |
Hisham Runs a local cafe right in the heart of the town. Regrettably, | :09:30. | :09:37. | |
you saw a lot of what happened yesterday afternoon? Yes. I was in | :09:38. | :09:46. | |
the cafe yesterday, and I was talking to some customers having | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
their lunch. We were talking about the pre-match of England and Wales. | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
And the topics around that. Premier League, stuff like that. All of a | :09:58. | :10:06. | |
sudden I could see a river of people going down market Street, screaming | :10:07. | :10:16. | |
and shouting. It is the scene that you see in Spain running after a | :10:17. | :10:27. | |
Bulls. -- bull. It is not a normal scene that you see everyday. We got | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
out. In the back of my mind, something very shocking has | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
happened. I got out and I saw a guy with a baseball cap, dirty white. | :10:39. | :10:51. | |
And an Asian guy tried to tackle him, to stop him. There was a row of | :10:52. | :10:59. | |
cars and an empty space. And he was hitting and shoving him in that | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
area, and pulling at something. I thought he was arguing with his wife | :11:06. | :11:13. | |
or something. We thought it was just a man and wife dispute. So we went | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
back. When we heard back we heard another big screen like in a | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
stadium. We got out again, and this time people were screaming, no! | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
Things like that. We got even further and the guy pulls his hand | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
back and tries to grab the gun, it was probably that big. The size of | :11:39. | :11:50. | |
an average cucumber. It looked like the beginning of a walking stick. It | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
was an old-fashioned gun. Probably handmade, makeshift. It was maybe a | :11:57. | :12:04. | |
vintage shot gun. Something of that type. Not a modern firearm. Anyway, | :12:05. | :12:15. | |
all of a sudden he fires a shot and we just ducked and went into the | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
restaurant. As we entered, there was a second shot, and between the first | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
and second there was about three or four seconds, not more than five | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
seconds. We waited about 30 seconds and went out again and as I went | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
close, very close, the guy disappeared in the thing. As the | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
hours passed and you realise that it was your local MP who had lost her | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
life, give us a sense of what went through your mind and what people | :12:46. | :12:55. | |
were saying. Jo is a great loss. We found out that after her death, I | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
did not know all of her work, but especially she had a ripple effect | :12:59. | :13:06. | |
internationally now, because her work was really happy aspect of an | :13:07. | :13:18. | |
international sound, she was. An the war, helping the children of Syria, | :13:19. | :13:24. | |
she spoke about the Russians not entering into Syria and not bombing | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
there. She campaigned for several charities. In slavery and all sorts | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
of stuff, and she worked with the community. You know, security issues | :13:35. | :13:43. | |
and all sorts of stuff. That she was handling. She handled it very well. | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
I think Jo has left an unfinished job. I think peace and peace, she | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
was such a peaceful lady, she has left two kids and a husband. It's a | :13:57. | :14:04. | |
difficult day for everybody here, I realise that. We must let you go. We | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
came together for the Labour elections. It's a great loss. Thank | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
you very much indeed, reflecting very much the view of so many people | :14:16. | :14:22. | |
here and a lot of what Hicham, who owns a local cafe, has been echoed | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
in the tributes and cards that people have written with their | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
flowers. I mentioned the vigil last night, the local church was packed | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
with people remembering Jo Cox and giving thanks for all her work. The | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
Bishop of Huddersfield is with me. You spoke at last night's vigil. The | :14:41. | :14:47. | |
right Reverend Jonathan Gibbs. What are your thoughts at this extremely | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
difficult time for the community? Yesterday was an enormous shock for | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
everybody. None of us could believe the news as it began to filter | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
through, and I think last night it was the community coming together in | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
shock, there were three or 400 people there, wonderful | :15:05. | :15:06. | |
representation from across the community and faith groups, and many | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
of our political representatives, for whom it was an enormously | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
difficult occasion. The community needed to come together and the | :15:16. | :15:18. | |
church was able to provide a space for people to begin to grieve. | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
And people have been signing a Book of Remembrance, and I noticed that | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
one of the local churches was pointing out that people of all | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
faiths and none have been signing the book. The point is that Jo Cox | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
was a hard-working MP, and that is what unites people. Absolutely, she | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
was a woman of this community, she was born here, she went to school | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
here, she wanted to serve the people of the community in which she grew | :15:47. | :15:54. | |
up. Her family still live here, her parents, and the affection and | :15:55. | :15:56. | |
respect in which he was held across different communities is very clear. | :15:57. | :15:59. | |
I was able to speak to some of our Muslim friends and brothers last | :16:00. | :16:02. | |
night, representing their community, and they spoke of her with enormous | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
warmth. She was held in great affection and with great respect | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
right across the communities, and she will be terribly missed. The | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
fact that she went to Westminster to represent the area she grew up in, | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
that is actually quite unusual in politics, and I get the sense that | :16:19. | :16:24. | |
was hugely important to her and, therefore, to your worshippers, her | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
constituents. Absolutely, I mean it is something very special, and she | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
went into politics with a passion, wanting to make a difference, | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
wanting to make a difference for the people of this community. I know, | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
from talking with people today, that she would be willing to stop and | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
listen and hear concerns. I saw that. One minutes playing with their | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
children on the floor after a church service, then get in up and talking | :16:49. | :16:56. | |
to people and engaging with people. She was a woman of passion and | :16:57. | :16:58. | |
compassion for the people she served, especially in this community | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
which she so loved. What will your role be in the coming days? There | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
are still difficult days ahead, but particularly for her family, but for | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
local people as well. Sure. Obviously, in terms of ministering | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
to the family has cells, her parents live in one of the neighbouring | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
villages, they are connected with the local church, and they are | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
involved in caring for them. One of the league leaders worked with Jo | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
and was with her when she died, so the Church is very much involved in | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
supporting them. We offered a place for people to come together and | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
grieve, and we will continue to offer that space, because there will | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
be a range of different emotions going on - shock and sadness, and | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
Bobley Anderson too, and we need to support one another through this | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
very difficult time. -- and probably anger too. Thank you for your time, | :17:51. | :17:58. | |
the Bishop of Huddersfield. So much of what the bishop was saying there | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
is reflected in these remembrances on the flowers behind me. To leave | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
you with one final thought, Naseem, who laid flowers here, says simply, | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
we have lost one of the good ones. From here in Birstall in Yorkshire, | :18:15. | :18:21. | |
for now, it is back to the studio. Lots of you getting in touch with | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
your tributes to Jo Cox, James on Facebook, rest in peace, Jo, you | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
were an inspiration and will never be forgotten for the good work you | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
have done, always full of passion, you will be sadly missed. My | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
thoughts and prayers to a family and friends in this tragic time. Anthony | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
on Facebook, so sorry to hear about Jo Cox, this is too sad for words. | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
Philip said, I cannot recall being so upset at the death of someone I | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
never met, the most decent people killed by hatred. May his soul rest | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
in peace. Mike has texted, to honour and respect the memory of such a | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
promising young lass and one of our own MPs, both sides of the | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
referendum must now clean up their campaigns, being as honest and open | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
as young Jo Cox was. And from John, a very tragic loss of life. Lots of | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
tribute being paid to Jo Cox, not just in Britain, but from around the | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
world and in her constituency hundreds of local people came | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
together to remember their MP, who they say never forgot that she had | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
been elected to serve their constituents. | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
She were lovely, weren't she? Yeah, really lovely. | :19:30. | :19:31. | |
Not what we expected, was she? No. | :19:32. | :19:33. | |
Because we did expect, grammar school, Cambridge, | :19:34. | :19:35. | |
we thought, oh God, she's going to be a snob. | :19:36. | :19:37. | |
But no, far from it. Absolutely lovely. | :19:38. | :19:39. | |
I wrote to her a few times, actually. | :19:40. | :19:41. | |
She always replied, and she was so approachable. | :19:42. | :19:52. | |
Candles were lit outside Westminster, the Prime Minister said | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
Parliament had lost a great start, and Jeremy Corbyn led tributes, | :19:59. | :20:01. | |
praising her deep commitment to humanity. | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
A real servant of democracy in every way one could want or imagine. | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
A wonderful woman, parliamentarian, mother, wife. | :20:08. | :20:10. | |
Her life has been taken through an act of warped hatred. | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
Jo fought to help the refugees from the Syrian civil war. | :20:15. | :20:22. | |
She gave a voice to those whose cry for help | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
and I know it contributed to a change in policy. | :20:26. | :20:34. | |
She will never know how many lives she helped to transform. | :20:35. | :20:42. | |
The Leeds Central MP, Hilary Benn, | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
who's a long-time friend, tweeted, "May you rest eternal, Jo." | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
"We were all so proud to have known you and to call you our friend." | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
US presidential contender Hillary Clinton | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
has also spoken of a "cruel and terrible assassination". | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
The American Secretary of State said the attack | :21:02. | :21:03. | |
was "an assault on everybody who cares about democracy". | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
Canadian MP Nathan Cullen, who's a friend of Jo Cox, | :21:08. | :21:09. | |
Jo Cox used her voice for those who had none. | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
She dedicated her passion to those who needed it most, | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
and she harnessed her limitless love, | :21:19. | :21:20. | |
even and especially for those who allowed hate to consume them. | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
Her husband Brendan said it beautifully, she would have wanted | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
two things above all else to happen now, | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
that our children are bathed in love, | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
and that we all unite to fight | :21:39. | :21:40. | |
against the hatred that killed her. | :21:41. | :21:42. | |
To Brendan and Jo's beautiful children, we express our | :21:43. | :21:44. | |
deepest condolences. Excuse me. | :21:45. | :21:46. | |
Let's talk to two of her friends and Labour colleagues now. | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
Anna Turley became an MP at the same time as Jo last year. | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
And Clive Betts is the MP for Sheffield South East. | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
Anna, you started in Parliament with Jo after last year's | :21:59. | :22:00. | |
general election and formed quite a bond? | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
It is heartbreaking, you look at these photographs of this vibrant | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
woman and cannot believe it has happened. Exactly, it is just so | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
difficult to comprehend and to process, such an act of unspeakable | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
wickedness and hatred to somebody who was such a good soul, such a | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
kind heart, so compassionate, so decent. Those smiling pictures you | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
see in the paper, that is what we saw every day with Jo, she always | :22:29. | :22:35. | |
smiled, always bundles of energy, effervescent, she fizzed with | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
energy, passion and commitment. She was just inspiring, someone you | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
looked up to unfold, wow, she is making a difference, and impact on | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
the world. -- and thought. She will be held in so much honour and esteem | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
by her legs in parliament, but all of our hearts go out to her family, | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
who have lost the most wonderful mother and wife, and we think of | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
them today. You talk about someone who had such an impact, having only | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
been an MP for a year, but she clearly shone out. What was the | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
first that you came across, the first time you came across her? | :23:12. | :23:20. | |
Well, I mean, I had met her before, but when she stood out for me | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
exceptionally was when she got agent questions on issues like Syria and | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
Iraq Yuji. We have it in your programme about what a brilliant | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
constituency MP she was. -- and refugees. But she was a global | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
citizen who strove to leave the world a better place than she | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
founded, and that inspired as the most. I think of a massive smile, | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
she seemed to have more hours in the day than everybody else. I remember | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
going to have bowed once for an evening dinner, and we got back | :23:49. | :23:54. | |
late, and you have prepared a three course meal. -- back to her boat. We | :23:55. | :24:04. | |
laughed at the time and called her superwoman, she was phenomenal, I do | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
not know how she did it. All we can do to pay tribute is to try to take | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
forward the issues that she wanted us to take on, to live with love, to | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
tackle bigotry and hatred and hostility where ever we see it, | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
particularly in political debate, we all have a responsibility to take | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
that forward. What are your thoughts of Jo this morning? Just reflecting | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
what Anna was saying, the last time I remember seeing Jo was walking | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
across Portcullis House, with that wonderful bouncy stride, she turned | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
and smiled with that great, infectious smile, and she was so | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
full of life and determination. It was not just for its own sake, it | :24:42. | :24:48. | |
was a behalf of other people, pushing forward causes, whether in | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
her constituency or on the international stage. I just reflect | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
now on the comments she made in a maiden speech. There is more that | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
unites us than divides us, and she applied that whether representing | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
all the people in her constituency, from many different backgrounds, | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
face and ethnicities, or on the international stage, where she | :25:09. | :25:11. | |
campaigned for countries to come together to solve problems on the | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
global stage. That was a wonderful approach she had delight, and so | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
much passion, so much intelligence, but a wonderfully nice, pleasant | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
person as well. What an enormous loss. Just the sort of person you | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
would want as an MP, what promise did her career hold? In must | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
promise, because she was passionate, she was determined, she could be | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
very forceful in making arguments. But because of the way, she made | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
them, because she was so approachable, a genuinely nice | :25:46. | :25:48. | |
person, I think she carried that with more conviction. She did not | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
antagonise people or upset them with aggression. She sought to persuade | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
them by reasoned and rational argument in a most wonderful way. | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
And therefore I think she had a great future haired offer, because | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
people took her seriously and really had high regard for her. -- ahead of | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
her. We're just saying goodbye to viewers on BBC One, but we will | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
continue talking on BBC News. So sorry to interrupt you there, | :26:17. | :26:23. | |
Clive, but clearly a woman who was greatly loved. Absolutely, and you | :26:24. | :26:30. | |
have heard tributes in the last few hours across the political divide, | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
even when Members of Parliament might disagree, they recognise his | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
sincerity and recognise the sort of person she was, open and honest and | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
decent. And she had enormous respect for those personal attributes, as | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
well as for the campaigns and principles she fought for. Did she | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
ever speak to you about any security concerns? It has emerged that there | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
had been some issues, it seems absolutely not related to what has | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
happened, but security had been looked at. Well, it she did not | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
mention any specific concerns, but all the time about the increasing | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
nature of hostility and aggression, particularly towards female MPs, | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
particularly on social media. Many of us who came in last year were | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
quite shocked and taken aback at how much aggression there is targeted | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
towards MPs, most of us come to try and do public service, and Jo was | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
the best of the best at that, and we often talk together, Jo, myself and | :27:32. | :27:37. | |
others, about how distressed we were about the aggression, hostility and | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
the nature of the debate. We were all reviewing our security, and I | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
think it needs to be looked at. Jo would not have wanted us to be | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
hiding behind walls, our job is to be in the community, to be at | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
surgeries, public events, to see people. We chat to people when we | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
are doing shopping, walking out dogs. This is our job, to be amongst | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
the people, we cannot hide from that, everything that is good and | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
great about our job, Jo embraced that. Clive, do you think that | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
security needs to change? How do you balance that in parrot for MPs to be | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
accessible? Well, security is being reviewed all the time, and we don't | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
talk about details of that, but in the House of Commons you can see, | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
when I became an MP in 1992, people could walk up to the main reception | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
desk and just ask to see add MP. Now you have to go through significant | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
security checks and there are an police around the Palace of | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
Westminster. Different in the constituency, nobody would want | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
armed police following us around, and all MPs will be dealing with | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
people whose benefits have been stopped, who are facing eviction | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
from their homes, who need help from their MPs. We cannot refuse to see | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
people in those circumstances because of security worries. So | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
there is always a challenge, we have always got to be careful and | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
sensitive about it. But in the end, we are elected by our constituents, | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
and we have to be there for our constituents when they need us. The | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
bishop was talking about the emotions that people will be | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
feeling, the sadness, the last - but also the anger, how are you feeling | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
this morning? -- the loss. I am still struggling to process it, I | :29:26. | :29:28. | |
think there will be several stages of grief to go through. There is | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
some talk of recalling Parliament, and some of us want to come together | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
to share our grief and memories of Jo, and to think about her and how | :29:38. | :29:41. | |
she would have wanted us to go forward. It is just a shocking time, | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
but as I say, mostly our thoughts are with her family, who wonderful | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
husband and children, because at the end of the day this is what is most | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
important, and it is then that we think of today. | :29:56. | :30:02. | |
Thank you very much for joining us and sharing your memories. Let us | :30:03. | :30:11. | |
know your thoughts, all of the usual ways of getting in touch. Still to | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
come, should Russian track and field athletes be allowed to compete after | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
the doping scandal? We will ask British athletes what they think. | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
Let's catch up with the day 's news with a neater. -- Anita. | :30:27. | :30:35. | |
Vigils have been held for the Labour MP Jo Cox, who died yesterday | :30:36. | :30:38. | |
after being shot and stabbed in an assault in her constituency. | :30:39. | :30:41. | |
The 41-year-old mother became an MP in the general election last year. | :30:42. | :30:44. | |
David Cameron said the killing was tragic and dreadful news. | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
She was attacked in the village of Birstall | :30:47. | :30:48. | |
after she held her constituency surgery. | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
Russian athletes will find out later today whether they will be allowed | :30:54. | :30:56. | |
following claims of widespread doping. | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
Members of the world governing body of athletics | :31:00. | :31:00. | |
are meeting in Vienna to make the decision. | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
The team was suspended earlier this year | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
following a damning report into alleged drug use. | :31:12. | :31:13. | |
Barack Obama has made a new appeal for greater gun-control measures | :31:14. | :31:16. | |
to be introduced in the United States. | :31:17. | :31:18. | |
The US President met survivors and relatives | :31:19. | :31:23. | |
He's calling on the Republican-controlled Congress | :31:24. | :31:24. | |
to pass new legislation following the attack. | :31:25. | :31:36. | |
As has been true too many times before, I held and hugged grieving | :31:37. | :31:50. | |
family members and they asked why this keeps happening and they | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
pleaded that we do more to stop the carnage. | :31:54. | :31:55. | |
The Labour Party has held the south-London constituency | :31:56. | :31:56. | |
of Tooting in the by-election sparked by Sadiq Kahn's | :31:57. | :31:59. | |
Junior doctor Rosena Allin-Khan won with a majority of more than 6,000. | :32:00. | :32:07. | |
A two-minute silence was held during the count | :32:08. | :32:09. | |
Allin-Khan chose not to make a victory speech | :32:10. | :32:15. | |
Two drugs which work together to shrink tumours in skin cancer | :32:16. | :32:19. | |
have been approved for use by the NHS in England. | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
In trials, the treatment, called combination therapy, | :32:24. | :32:24. | |
shrank the most aggressive type of skin cancer in most patients. | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
The move to approve the drugs is one of the fastest in NHS history | :32:30. | :32:32. | |
and is likely to influence similar decisions elsewhere in the UK. | :32:33. | :32:39. | |
The American rock star Meat Loaf has been taken to hospital | :32:40. | :32:41. | |
after collapsing on stage during a concert in Canada. | :32:42. | :32:43. | |
Fans at last night's concert in Edmonton saw the 68-year-old | :32:44. | :32:49. | |
while performing his hit song I'd Do Anything For Love. | :32:50. | :32:52. | |
Canadian media reported the music venue was then cleared | :32:53. | :32:54. | |
Meat Loaf had previously cancelled two recent concerts due to illness. | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at ten. | :32:59. | :33:05. | |
Thank you. Let's catch up with the sport. Sally is in Paris. Good | :33:06. | :33:14. | |
morning. If you're an England or Northern Ireland fan this morning | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
you probably will still be celebrating, but heartbreak for | :33:19. | :33:21. | |
Welsh bands after seeing their side concede a last-minute goal | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
yesterday. We will start with Northern Ireland, they beat Ukraine | :33:26. | :33:28. | |
2-0 which keeps them with a chance of qualifying for the knockout | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
stages. Gareth McAuley put them ahead before they had to overcome | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
bizarre summer conditions. A huge hailstorm briefly caused the match | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
to be suspended and players and officials ran for cover. It did not | :33:43. | :33:47. | |
hold them back for long, despite heavy Ukrainian pressure Niall | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
McGinn poked home a second goal lead in stoppage time to spark wild | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
celebrations. A night to remember. We did not just come here to making | :33:57. | :34:04. | |
up the numbers. Getting here is just a party from now on and it's a | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
bonus, we are not here to make up the numbers, watch out the Germans, | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
we are coming for you. It's amazing, the last ten minutes were so nerve | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
wracking, you could feel the tension. My prediction was 2-0, I'm | :34:18. | :34:24. | |
glad we won, bring on Germany. 30 years of being a Northern Ireland | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
fan, now I know why I've done it. They change the formation and had a | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
completely different approach, the horizontal rain did it! Fantastic. | :34:34. | :34:40. | |
It's a proud day for me, for the country as well. The first win in | :34:41. | :34:46. | |
the European Championships, it's our first time so it must be our first | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
win! The level of performance is what I'm most proud of, the players | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
reacted to the defeat in the first game and the disappointment of the | :34:56. | :34:58. | |
first game. I thought today every of was magnificent. The rain was | :34:59. | :35:05. | |
obviously the thing that helped! England are now top of group B after | :35:06. | :35:12. | |
the 2-1 win over Wales, their first victory at this championship. Daniel | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
Sturridge scored in injury time to clinch the dramatic win. Wales had | :35:16. | :35:20. | |
lead at half-time before Roy Hodgson made a double substitution which | :35:21. | :35:25. | |
paid off as Jamie Vardy equalised and then Daniel Sturridge put them | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
on the brink of qualification with his goal, and that prompted | :35:30. | :35:36. | |
jubilation from the manager! As you saw on the bench, probably the most | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
spontaneous exhibition if you like of pure joy from myself and the | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
coaching staff that we have seen for a fair while, but that is what these | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
tournaments do to you, they make certain that you suffer. When you go | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
into a game of this magnitude and up against that quality, you have to do | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
something special to get something out of it and I thought the guys | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
showed such heart, they stuck in the game, and with 30 seconds, 60 | :36:03. | :36:06. | |
seconds remaining to give up that point that we worked so hard to get, | :36:07. | :36:13. | |
that was disappointing. I think you will like this, if you want to | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
impress the Queen, here's how. Jockey Ryan Moore Road Order Of | :36:18. | :36:24. | |
Saint George to victory in the Gold Cup at Ascot, have a look at this. I | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, you can't get much more | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
colour-coordinated than that! Her Majesty looked quite pleased about | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
that as well. We will have more sport throughout the morning. You | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
picked their colours first? Maybe she was paying tribute to him. I | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
would imagine it would be the Queen. Thank you very much, Sally. Let's | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
talk more about the loss of Jo Cox. She has been described as a devoted | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
wife and mother of two Her husband Brendan posted this | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
photo and said she had an energy and a zest for life | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
that would exhaust most people. The couple divided their time | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
between her Batley and Spen constituency in West Yorkshire and | :37:09. | :37:10. | |
living in a houseboat on the Thames, The commute to Westminster was out | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
of the ordinary, too. Usually I'm hoping I'll be zipping | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
down to the House of Commons, which is about half an hour away | :37:20. | :37:22. | |
from where I live on the boat, Now this is the way to start | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
the day, isn't it? Yorkshire born and bred, | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
Jo Cox only became an MP last year, of representing her "proud, | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
no-nonsense" constituency. The spirit of nonconformity | :37:34. | :37:41. | |
is as prevalent now in my part of West Yorkshire, | :37:42. | :37:43. | |
as it was in the time of my two immediate predecessors, | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
Mike Wood and Elizabeth Peacock. They were both known | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
for their own brand of independent, nonconformist service, | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
albeit in very different ways. And I intend to maintain | :37:56. | :37:57. | |
that established tradition, Before her election, | :37:58. | :37:59. | |
she was a tireless She spent ten years | :38:00. | :38:07. | |
in international development, which took her to conflict | :38:08. | :38:21. | |
zones around the world. She met her husband Brendan working | :38:22. | :38:23. | |
for Oxfam, who have described her as a "passionate campaigner | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
on humanitarian issues". She also worked closely | :38:27. | :38:28. | |
with Sarah Brown, the wife of former | :38:29. | :38:29. | |
Prime Minister Gordon Brown. When we spoke to her last October | :38:30. | :38:31. | |
ahead of a Commons debate on Syria, she called repeatedly for Britain | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
to do more to help the victims | :38:36. | :38:37. | |
of Syria's civil war. working in many conflicts zones | :38:38. | :38:39. | |
all around the world. I've seen that military | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
intervention can save lives. It did in Kosovo, it did in Bosnia, | :38:44. | :38:45. | |
it did in Sierra Leone. There is a case that can be made, | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
when you've got an intervention grounded in the protection | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
of innocent civilians, My big proposal tonight | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
in the House of Commons, when we debate this, will be I think | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
the Government should consider a no-bombing zone, | :39:03. | :39:04. | |
to stop President Assad raining down aerial bombardment | :39:05. | :39:06. | |
on innocent civilians, killing children and grandmothers, | :39:07. | :39:08. | |
and mums and dads, to change the battlefield dynamic | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
and force him to the table. Jo Cox's colleagues in the House of | :39:12. | :39:23. | |
Commons are clearly in shock at what happened. Carole Walker is in | :39:24. | :39:26. | |
Westminster to talk about the impact that she had in that very short | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
political career. She was passionate, and by all accounts a | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
very good woman? Absolutely. You got a real sense of how strongly | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
motivated she was there when she came to Parliament, she was only | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
here for a year, but she really made her mark in that time, she was | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
already marked out as a rising star, someone who would have had such a | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
great future ahead of her, she brought all of that experience of | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
working around the world for aid agencies, and here in Parliament she | :39:57. | :40:02. | |
continued to campaign passionately to help some of the most | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
disadvantaged around the world. And I think that is why you have seen | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
such warm and glowing tributes from right across the Houses of | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
Parliament, for someone who really cared about what she was doing, but | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
was really motivated to try to help others in society. And of course | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
somebody who got along so well with so many people, very approachable | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
and personable, often turning up at Parliament with her two young | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
children, now sadly grieved. Many MPs will be thinking of her family | :40:34. | :40:40. | |
and their loss today. Ordinary politics has been suspended for now, | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
and it is hard to imagine how things move forward, what will be happening | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
there? Well, you are right. Campaigning in the EU referendum has | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
been temporarily suspended, all of the campaigns did that as a mark of | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
respect last night. It is not yet clear when that will resume. The | :40:58. | :41:04. | |
campaigns will simply have to try to judge the public mood and decide | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
when they think it is appropriate to return to that. It will be | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
interesting to see whether her death does affect the tone of the | :41:14. | :41:20. | |
campaign, which had become pretty frenetic and personal and of a very | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
highly pressurised nature. It will be interesting to see whether the | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
tone remains somewhat more subdued and quiet. There has been talk of | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
possibly recalling Parliament, clearly there is nothing crucial for | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
Parliament to decide. MPs may well pay tribute. No firm decisions on | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
that yet, but I think MPs are still thinking about the loss of such a | :41:44. | :41:49. | |
bright, a bold, capable MP. And of course the loss felt by her family. | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
Thank you, Carol. Until yesterday, the last attack | :41:54. | :42:09. | |
on an MP was against the Labour He was stabbed in the stomach by | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
a student in his east London office. But in spite of that, | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
he doesn't want to make it harder After I was attacked, | :42:18. | :42:20. | |
six years ago now, the police spoke to every MP about their arrangements | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
in their constituency surgeries, There may be things | :42:25. | :42:26. | |
that can be done. What none of us would want is a big | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
change in the culture of our country, which would make it | :42:31. | :42:33. | |
much harder for people to get After I was attacked, | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
the police said to me, would you like a metal | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
arch, a metal detector But the problem with that would be, | :42:44. | :42:45. | |
it would make going to see your MP a pretty unpleasant experience, | :42:46. | :42:51. | |
and none of us want that to happen. I want my constituents | :42:52. | :42:54. | |
to come and talk to me, and I don't want to make it | :42:55. | :42:57. | |
hard for them to do so. Dr David James is the co-founder | :42:58. | :43:10. | |
of the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre, a Home Office unit | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
which examines security risks to politicians | :43:14. | :43:15. | |
and other public figures. Thank you for joining us. There has | :43:16. | :43:23. | |
been a survey done of MPs, and what they encounter and how vulnerable | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
they feel, what does that survey show? It has shown that around 80% | :43:28. | :43:31. | |
of MPs have been subject to intrusive harassment by | :43:32. | :43:39. | |
constituents. But nearly a fifth of all MPs have suffered some sort of | :43:40. | :43:42. | |
attack or attempted attack during their time in Parliament. We know | :43:43. | :43:48. | |
quite a lot about this now. There are two very important facts. The | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
first is that most of the people who attack politicians are mentally ill | :43:54. | :43:59. | |
owners with some personal grievance. The second thing is that most of | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
them give some sort of warning behaviour of what they make you want | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
to do in the form of threatening letters or difficult visits to the | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
constituency. The Nigel Jones case was won in point, you will remember | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
that in his constituency surgery he was attacked and his aide was | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
killed. This was 16 years ago. Yes. The aggressor in that incident had | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
been to the constituency surgery dozens of times before, raving in a | :44:26. | :44:30. | |
paranoid fashion. There was no mechanism to deal with it. This is | :44:31. | :44:33. | |
why the Home Office setup the fixated threat assessment centre | :44:34. | :44:39. | |
which is there to have difficult behaviours referred to it, so it can | :44:40. | :44:44. | |
assess and manage risk from mucking up warning behaviour is reported to | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
it. It relies on MPs actually bringing matters to its attention. | :44:49. | :44:54. | |
One of the problems is that MPs, some MPs tend to see this sort of | :44:55. | :44:57. | |
aggressive behaviour as just something that goes with the job. It | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
isn't and it shouldn't be. What would you say the answers are? We | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
are hearing from Steven Timms even, who was attacked and badly injured | :45:07. | :45:12. | |
as a result, even he says, actually, in the end, the balance of being | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
open as a constituency MP versus security means that he would prefer | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
openness. Obviously everyone will have a different perspective but how | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
do you see it? Where should the balance be? | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
Well, I would agree with what he said, but because people give | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
warning signs of what they may go on to do, it is important that these | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
are brought to the attention of the authorities. MPs are reluctant to | :45:39. | :45:44. | |
complain to the police or us about the behaviour of their constituents. | :45:45. | :45:48. | |
There is a worry that they may be seen as shopping their constituents. | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
But actually these people are mentally ill and in need of | :45:54. | :45:57. | |
attention. So if MPs do report them to the authorities, they are likely | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
to end up getting the psychiatric care that they need and have not had | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
before. There are things that can be done, but it is at that sort of | :46:06. | :46:11. | |
level. We certainly don't want to have fortified constituency | :46:12. | :46:17. | |
surgeries. Thank you for joining us, Dr David James. One tweet from Ali, | :46:18. | :46:23. | |
Jo's legacy will remain in our hearts for ever. Seeing the footage | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
is both inspiring and heartbreaking. Heather has tweeted, saddened and | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
shocked by the killing of Jo Cox, she was born for a purpose and | :46:33. | :46:36. | |
lifted by showing kindness and peace. She challenged the things | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
that isolate Westminster from the public, conviction politician and | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
local MP. Sarah on Facebook, we are talking about our memories of Jo Cox | :46:48. | :46:51. | |
and the thing she inspired us to do, I am on it to have been able to call | :46:52. | :46:56. | |
such an inspirational lady a friend and to have shared moments of life | :46:57. | :47:00. | |
with her. Thank you for your thoughts, keep letting us know your | :47:01. | :47:04. | |
thoughts this morning. The usual ways of getting in touch. | :47:05. | :47:07. | |
Should Russian track and field athletes be allowed to compete | :47:08. | :47:09. | |
They were suspended from international competitions | :47:10. | :47:12. | |
last November after a damning report by the World Anti-Doping Agency. | :47:13. | :47:15. | |
The agency described a culture of cheating | :47:16. | :47:16. | |
and what it called state-sponsored doping. | :47:17. | :47:18. | |
Later today, the International Association of Athletics Federations | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
- headed by Lord Coe - will decide whether Russia has | :47:24. | :47:25. | |
changed enough for its athletes to be allowed to travel to Rio. | :47:26. | :47:28. | |
But what exactly did Russian athletes do wrong? | :47:29. | :47:30. | |
It's the worst doping scandal in history. | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
It could all end with a full Olympic ban for Russia. | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
But how did we get here in the first place? | :47:42. | :47:44. | |
Talk of Russian doping has been around for years. | :47:45. | :47:46. | |
Just days before the Beijing Olympics, | :47:47. | :47:48. | |
seven athletes were suspended for providing fake urine samples. | :47:49. | :47:55. | |
Four years later in London, and Russia had a successful Games. | :47:56. | :47:58. | |
A total of 71 medals in what was called the Clean Olympics. | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
In 2014, a German TV station broadcast claims | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
that most Russian athletes were using banned substances, | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
could make positive tests disappear for cash. | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
The World Anti-Doping Agency set up an independent commission | :48:18. | :48:19. | |
to look into the claims, headed by this man, | :48:20. | :48:22. | |
The same TV station and the Sunday Times | :48:23. | :48:29. | |
this time claiming that so-called blood doping is rife in athletics, | :48:30. | :48:35. | |
with 80% of Russia's medal winners under suspicion. | :48:36. | :48:37. | |
It said the sport's governing body, the IAAF, | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
had done next to nothing to stop it. | :48:42. | :48:44. | |
The then front-runner to lead that organisation, Lord Coe, | :48:45. | :48:48. | |
Nobody here is questioning the right of a news organisation, | :48:49. | :48:54. | |
a newspaper, to challenge, to kick the tyres, | :48:55. | :48:57. | |
to forensically examine the work of our federation. | :48:58. | :48:59. | |
To say we are sitting here on our hands | :49:00. | :49:01. | |
simply not investigating, or turning a blind eye to this, | :49:02. | :49:04. | |
and Wada's independent commission published its findings. | :49:05. | :49:15. | |
Russia was guilty of systemic state-sponsored doping. | :49:16. | :49:18. | |
Our recommendation is that the Russian Federation be suspended. | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
said it had retested frozen samples from the two most recent Games. | :49:24. | :49:32. | |
31 athletes from the Beijing Olympics failed those retests, | :49:33. | :49:35. | |
23 athletes from London also failed, eight of those were again Russian. | :49:36. | :49:43. | |
Sport chiefs must now decide if the country is doing enough | :49:44. | :49:47. | |
for the ban to be lifted, or whether its athletes should now | :49:48. | :49:50. | |
be stopped from travelling to the Rio Games. | :49:51. | :49:57. | |
In the studio with me is Olympic relay runner Andrew Steele, | :49:58. | :50:00. | |
who competed in the 2008 Beijing Olympics. | :50:01. | :50:03. | |
He's been told he could now be awarded a bronze medal | :50:04. | :50:06. | |
after coming fourth behind the Russian team back then. | :50:07. | :50:09. | |
And also part of the conversation is former swimmer and Olympic silver | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
medallist Sharron Davies, who appealed to have her medal | :50:13. | :50:14. | |
upgraded after allegations of doping came to light. | :50:15. | :50:22. | |
Thank you for joining us. Andrew, explained where you are with | :50:23. | :50:28. | |
possibly being upgraded to bronze from fourth place eight years later. | :50:29. | :50:34. | |
Yeah, quite a bizarre scenario eight years, looking back at the Beijing | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
Olympic Games. We finished fourth in the relay, the fastest time to ever | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
not win a medal. And so we finished just behind the Russian team, who | :50:44. | :50:50. | |
ran an unusually fast time, unexpectedly so. So if we see that | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
the B samples come back positive, the A samples did test positive, we | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
stand to be upgraded to third, and the process of awarding those medals | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
goes ahead. How do you feel about it? You were robbed of the podium | :51:05. | :51:12. | |
moment. No, that is the most bothersome part for me. A lot of | :51:13. | :51:16. | |
people will say, think of the endorsements you could have had as | :51:17. | :51:19. | |
an Olympic medallist, but what matters to me is that we did not get | :51:20. | :51:23. | |
that moment of joy, of recognition for our hard work at the time. You | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
cannot ever really get that back. In this bizarre mixture of a Venn | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
diagram of joy and anger, where they cross, it is a very bizarre feeling. | :51:35. | :51:39. | |
I would be thrilled to call myself a medallist, but angry that I did not | :51:40. | :51:43. | |
get to experience it at the time eight years ago. So you are hoping | :51:44. | :51:47. | |
to compete in Rio, how would you feel about competing alongside | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
Russian athletes? I would not feel that comfortable with the idea. I | :51:53. | :51:56. | |
believe personally there has to be quite a harsh stand made, and clean | :51:57. | :52:02. | |
athletes will get caught up in this, like there will be the unfortunate | :52:03. | :52:05. | |
cases of clean Russian athletes, if Russia are bad, who do not get to | :52:06. | :52:09. | |
compete at the Olympic Games. But I cannot see any way to send a clear | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
message that the sport is transforming other than to Ban | :52:14. | :52:16. | |
Russia as a whole. If the assessment is that they think enough is being | :52:17. | :52:23. | |
done, would you take that at face value? Probably not. Wada released a | :52:24. | :52:27. | |
report on their recent activity in Russia over the last 6-9 months, and | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
it didn't paint a very clean picture. It doesn't appear from my | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
point of view that the right moves have been made to make sure the | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
sport is clean in Russia. And if that is the case, I really would not | :52:42. | :52:45. | |
be all that comfortable competing against Russian athletes in Rio. | :52:46. | :52:50. | |
Sharron, you lost out to a gold medal to an athlete, a swimmer, | :52:51. | :52:57. | |
later tested positive for banned substances. That was even longer ago | :52:58. | :53:01. | |
for you, how do you feel about everything? Well, I am still very | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
much involved with swimming, and ICO athletes competing against people | :53:08. | :53:11. | |
who have tested positive ones. -- I see our athletes. I think we have to | :53:12. | :53:17. | |
work on bigger deterrence. The Russians are not getting their house | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
in order, this is a state system, not individuals. This is a | :53:23. | :53:25. | |
state-sponsored system, so the only way we can make the Russians behave | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
and do proper testing internally is to come down on the whole country. | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
Personally, I would like to see the whole country, not just track and | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
field, because we can be sure it is not just track and field that is | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
doing this. Do you think much has changed? No, sadly not. That report | :53:43. | :53:48. | |
that has just been talked about, over the past few months there have | :53:49. | :53:52. | |
been 700 tests, many of them cancelled, objects put in front of | :53:53. | :53:55. | |
the testers to make it difficult for them to get to the athletes. 111 | :53:56. | :54:01. | |
tests were the athletes could not be found, 58 positive tests. That is | :54:02. | :54:09. | |
not change. So Russian athletes at Rio, yes no? Personally, I would | :54:10. | :54:13. | |
love to see them not there. They have to give a strong deterrent for | :54:14. | :54:17. | |
things to change. You talked about my particular situation, that was | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
the East Germans many years ago. We knew at the time, you could see it, | :54:22. | :54:27. | |
to be honest, they had huge success, nobody did anything about it. There | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
were two victims, people like myself, whose lives could have been | :54:31. | :54:34. | |
different, people who were fourth, maybe could have been medallists, | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
but also those athletes themselves, taking drugs with no idea what the | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
long-term effects are. We should be protecting the clean athletes but | :54:46. | :54:48. | |
also those who have been persuaded to take drugs as well. So then they | :54:49. | :54:55. | |
knew, they did not categorically no, but there were signs. Does everybody | :54:56. | :55:01. | |
look at each other with suspicion? Unfortunately so, I think, now. | :55:02. | :55:03. | |
Certain countries have said they read like more than others, Russia | :55:04. | :55:11. | |
was one of those, thanks to, I guess some high profile cases over the | :55:12. | :55:14. | |
past. We were suspicious when we finished fourth. If we said we would | :55:15. | :55:20. | |
run to: 58, we thought we would have a chance of a medal, and we did not | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
expect Russia to do that. Sometimes people perform better than expected, | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
but we were certainly suspicious, and it seems, this many years later, | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
that perhaps we were vindicated in our suspicion at the time. You have | :55:33. | :55:37. | |
signed a letter to Wada, asking for all countries to be looked at, what | :55:38. | :55:41. | |
do you want to happen? I just think that we really need to move to a new | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
plane of what is normal for sport here. We are losing faith in | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
athletics, in particular. The sport has been really degraded by these | :55:51. | :55:54. | |
ongoing doping scandals. We need to make a clear stand against even the | :55:55. | :55:59. | |
federation as a whole, and that is a big step, one of the biggest | :56:00. | :56:02. | |
decisions we will ever have in Olympic sport, I guess. But I cannot | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
see we will change without doing that. It will be unfair on a few, | :56:07. | :56:11. | |
but how else will we do this? We need all our resources and deterrent | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
available to make a change. So the public can reignite their love for | :56:17. | :56:22. | |
the sport and be sure that what they see is a true performance. Sharron, | :56:23. | :56:29. | |
you are nodding. It is just so sad, and people watch the Olympics and do | :56:30. | :56:33. | |
not know whether it is a drug aided win or not. I just want a healthier | :56:34. | :56:38. | |
nation, I want people to be involved in sport and to love doing it, and | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
we need to work harder to get drug cheats out. Sharron Davies, Andrew | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
steel, thank you very much. Good luck, you are still waiting to hear | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
if you are going to Rio. Coming up, the NHS in England agrees to fund | :56:52. | :56:56. | |
two pioneering drugs that fight skin cancer, we will have the details. | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
Now, let's catch up with the latest weather update with Matt Taylor, how | :57:02. | :57:02. | |
are things looking? Stormy once again, have you managed | :57:03. | :57:12. | |
to avoid them? No, keep getting caught! The Weather Watchers | :57:13. | :57:15. | |
pictures have been capturing the scene, lots of lightning across the | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
UK, some particularly severe storms, this one not far from Heathrow, | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
having an impact on the roads, and airports have been suffering as | :57:25. | :57:28. | |
operations have to be reduced. As well as the lightning, we have seen | :57:29. | :57:32. | |
hail and flooding, and reports quite widely across parts of Oxfordshire | :57:33. | :57:38. | |
of a funnel cloud, a prequel set to tornadoes. -- precursor. That is not | :57:39. | :57:47. | |
uncommon in the UK, but we're not done with the storms yet, and there | :57:48. | :57:50. | |
will be more storms today across the UK, some of them quite severe once | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
again. It is towards parts of the south-east, East Anglia, we have | :57:56. | :57:58. | |
already got thunderstorms rumbling away. It is not just here where wet | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
weather will be confined, a damp day across eastern Scotland and the | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
north-east of England. Lots of cloud, though, sunshine breaking | :58:07. | :58:08. | |
through with lift temperatures across southern areas, and the | :58:09. | :58:15. | |
storms going again. East Anglia and the south-east of the worst ones | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
today, we have to watch conditions closer to Queens and Ascot. In | :58:19. | :58:25. | |
between the areas, there will be heavy showers around, we cannot rule | :58:26. | :58:28. | |
out the odd rumble of thunder, but perhaps not as bad as elsewhere. | :58:29. | :58:34. | |
Further rain, in the north, brightness to the western parts of | :58:35. | :58:41. | |
Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man. In the East of Scotland, and | :58:42. | :58:45. | |
other cool day, heavy rain around Aberdeenshire and the Moray Firth. | :58:46. | :58:49. | |
Through tonight, storms for a time across the south, they will ease | :58:50. | :58:52. | |
away, rain across eastern Scotland slides down through easternmost | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
counties of England, a bit of a breeze here. Not desperately cold, | :58:56. | :59:00. | |
not much lower than double figures for many. It did a weekend, a sign | :59:01. | :59:04. | |
of some good news, goodbye to the storms, this area of high pressure | :59:05. | :59:08. | |
kicks the storms into northern parts of Europe, and it keeps things much | :59:09. | :59:13. | |
dry for many of us. But a completely dry story on Saturday, central and | :59:14. | :59:17. | |
eastern England rather grey, cool, rain and drizzle at times. Nowhere | :59:18. | :59:21. | |
near the intensity of rain as we have seen of late. Most of you will | :59:22. | :59:25. | |
have a dry Saturday, the best warmth across western areas, where | :59:26. | :59:28. | |
temperatures will get into the high teens. As we go into Sunday, it is | :59:29. | :59:32. | |
eastern areas where we will most likely see the driest and brightest | :59:33. | :59:39. | |
weather, and the warmest too. In the West, lots of cloud, patchy rain and | :59:40. | :59:42. | |
drizzle, later in the day more in the way of heavy rain. By and large, | :59:43. | :59:46. | |
compare to this week, the storms are easing, the weekend looking much | :59:47. | :59:50. | |
better, and that is also the same in Kazakhstan, where we have got | :59:51. | :59:53. | |
showers at the moment. Tim Peake returns to earth tomorrow and it is | :59:54. | :59:57. | |
looking brighter across central Kazakhstan, where he is expected to | :59:58. | :00:01. | |
land during tomorrow morning. That is how it is looking, see you soon. | :00:02. | :00:08. | |
Hello it's Friday, it's ten o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling, | :00:09. | :00:10. | |
Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us. | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
Tributes continue to flood in for the murdered Labour MP Jo Cox. | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
Last night vigils were held outside Parliament and in | :00:19. | :00:20. | |
the village of Birstall, where she was shot and stabbed. | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
Her fellow Labour MP and friend Anna Turley has given | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
us her own recollections of Jo Cox... | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
Those smiling pictures you see in the paper, that is what we saw every | :00:29. | :00:36. | |
day, she was always smiling, bundles of energy, she was fizzing with | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
energy and passion and commitment. I'm Jane Hill in Birstall, where | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
local people are arriving in the Market Square all the time to lay | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
flowers. Many simply saying thank you. | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
Also this morning - a charity is accusing the government | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
of ignoring the issue of who cares for our increasingly | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
We'll speak to people who are worried about who'll care for them - | :00:58. | :01:05. | |
Lots of you getting in touch to pay tribute to Jo Cox this morning. John | :01:06. | :01:22. | |
on Facebook, still can't quite believe the events of yesterday and | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
that she is no longer with us. I first met her during the general | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
election campaign in the summer of 2014, we did not always see eye to | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
eye from a political point of view but I was amazed by how she | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
connected with people and she was so caring, embracing everything in | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
front of her, she would always find time for you even know she was so | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
busy. An e-mail from Sarah, we had a wonderful party on her boat where my | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
children were inspired by her fighting and campaigning nature, | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
they became little campaign is because of her. I am privileged to | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
have shared moments of life with her. Thank you for your comments. | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
Keep getting in touch. All of the usual ways. If you text you will be | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
charged that the standard network rate. Let's get back to Jane Hill. | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
We are spending most of the morning looking at the death of Jo Cox and | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
Jane is in Birstall for us. Good morning. From Birstall. Where people | :02:25. | :02:32. | |
are arriving all the time here in the Market Square, to lay flowers, | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
people of all ages, backgrounds, people bringing their children. It | :02:40. | :02:48. | |
is a market town. Now, with a somewhat unwelcome media presence. | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
Journalists from here and overseas as well, not just British | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
journalists, such is the extraordinary nature of what has | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
gone on in the past 24 hours, local people who simply can't believe that | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
this has happened. As the Yorkshire Post says this morning, a young | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
woman murdered in the line of duty. The messages are extraordinarily | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
touching, it is very moving to read them. A lot of cards simply say | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
thank you. One lady in the last few minutes has laid the statuette of an | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
angel and the cards simply says, you worked so hard for us all, and that | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
is one of the things you pick up on from what people are saying, the | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
feeling that Jo Cox really was a terribly hard-working and well liked | :03:37. | :03:43. | |
local MP. She was from this area, of course. She said herself that she | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
was so proud to represent the part of the country that she grew up in. | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
And those local routes very much welcomed and celebrated, and people | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
remembering that here today. And last night. There was a digital in | :03:57. | :04:06. | |
the church last night. -- a vigil. The church was full. Fiona Trott was | :04:07. | :04:08. | |
there and has Trump now. From all backgrounds | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
and all faiths, they came together A woman who was killed | :04:13. | :04:14. | |
while working for them, She was a people person, | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
she was for us. She had so much warmth | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
and compassion. Police say Jo Cox was stabbed and | :04:26. | :04:39. | |
shot near Birstall village library. She was holding a drop-in session | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
for her local constituents. A guy was bent over the woman, | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
I could see her legs sticking out. The words I heard him say | :04:47. | :04:49. | |
was, "Britain first" I can't say exactly what it was, | :04:50. | :04:58. | |
but definitely "Britain first" The BBC understands the man | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
being arrested is called The BBC understands the man being arrested | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
is called Tommy Mair, Jo Cox was more than an MP, | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
she was a wife and mother. In a statement her husband | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
Brendan Cox said... The very heart of this | :05:19. | :05:43. | |
West Yorkshire village remains And the villagers within it | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
are overcome with grief. Fiona is now with me. As people come | :05:47. | :06:02. | |
and lay flowers, what is striking is that many people still have tears in | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
their eyes, people asked Gill stunned. They are, they are walking | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
around in a daze. -- they still are stunned. The school was on lockdown | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
yesterday and they are now trying to get on with their daily business and | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
it's very hard, the heart of the community, the Market Square is | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
still cordoned off, there is a huge police presence. And of course with | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
the media presence that you mentioned, it has hit them that this | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
did happen yesterday, it is very hard for them to come to terms with | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
it. They are trying to come to terms with it by laying floral tributes. | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
They are continuing to grow, and the messages talk about a woman who was | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
interested in their lives, interested in their local campaigns | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
for a pedestrian crossing and one woman mentioned she had a particular | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
personal problem that the MP was helping her with. She got to know | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
her. They both had children of the same age. She really felt the loss | :07:01. | :07:07. | |
for her family. Another message says, she will be remembered for her | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
tireless work for the less fortunate. You get the impression | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
from speaking to people that Jo Cox represented their interests but she | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
was also very interested in them and it will be hard to come to terms | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
with it. The fact that she was born and bred in the region plays an | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
important part here, the Bishop of Huddersfield who we spoke to in the | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
past hour picked up on that, and you get the sense that it was hugely | :07:32. | :07:33. | |
important to her and she was proud to represent the part | :07:34. | :07:47. | |
of the country where she grew up, and it resonated and it meant | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
something to her constituents? It really does. In this part of the | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
world that means a lot. Someone has left a message that says, for eight | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
Yorkshire Rose. The bishop said that she had passion and compassion. -- | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
for a Yorkshire rose. You always get a story about every background and | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
every faith, and that was reflected in the vigil last night. And the | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
thoughts about the police investigation, because there is | :08:10. | :08:15. | |
still a lot of police in evidence and police tape crossing the entire | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
Market Square and it is closed off, it is quite a wide police cordoned. | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
What do we know at this stage? I wonder if we can turn the camera | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
around to the streets, I can see out of the corner of my eye, a fingertip | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
search is going on. It looks like an officer is using a rod. They are | :08:33. | :08:40. | |
checking drains. That is the area outside the library where Jo Cox was | :08:41. | :08:48. | |
stabbed and shot yesterday. Still, 52-year-old man has been arrested | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
and is still being questioned by police today, and you can still see | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
here this morning, this huge police cordoned, huge police presence, this | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
investigation is very much continuing. We will talk again a | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
little later, thank you for now. We will talk to local people throughout | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
the day here as you would expect. For now, from here in Birstall, back | :09:10. | :09:11. | |
to you. We can now speak to two more of Jo's | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
friends and Labour colleagues. Caroline Flint attended the vigil | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
in Birstall last night Thank you for joining us. Just a | :09:19. | :09:30. | |
terribly sad day. Yes it is. I think it's important, you know, everything | :09:31. | :09:32. | |
everyone has said about how wonderful and MP she has been, but | :09:33. | :09:39. | |
also what she brought to her commitment and passion to helping | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
those less fortunate in her life before becoming an MP is important. | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
We have lost someone who had so much more to give. The vigil must have | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
been hard so soon after something so shocking. What were emotions like? | :09:53. | :09:59. | |
It must have been very raw? Yes, it was, but I think people were coming | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
together from Birstall and the surrounding areas, myself and | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
colleagues and others from the Labour Party, and it was a chance to | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
just come together, to hold each other, to think of Jo and take a bit | :10:15. | :10:21. | |
of time out from obviously a lot of discussion about what has happened | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
to really focus on the most important thing, thinking about Jo | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
Cox and her family. When you think about her, what do you remember? | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
What I remember is very much what everyone has been saying, someone | :10:37. | :10:51. | |
who was so positive, someone who had worked in some of the most difficult | :10:52. | :10:54. | |
parts of the world, but like many people who get elected was | :10:55. | :10:55. | |
throwing her heart and soul into being the best she could as an MP. | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
It is so poignant in terms of what happened because much of what MPs do | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
is only seen through what we see in the chamber of the House of Commons. | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
There is such another important side to that part of our lives. Very much | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
feet on the ground and working in the constituency and she was just | :11:12. | :11:20. | |
there for the people she grew up with, doing her best, doing her | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
duty. That obviously brings you into close contact with anybody who wants | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
to get up close. The events that the constituency surgeries are well | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
advertised, anyone can turn up. Have you had concerns and had you ever | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
spoken to her about security concerns about anything like that? | :11:39. | :11:45. | |
No. But I think over the years MPs share some of the things that we | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
face and how to handle bump. -- handle them. It is part of our | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
democracy that is very good and positive, I have spoken to MPs from | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
other parts of Europe and America and other parts of the world and | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
they are astonished at the very up close and personal relationship that | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
we have with our constituents and it's a very good thing. I think we | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
also have to be mindful of not just our security but those of our staff | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
as well. And sometimes you have to deal | :12:20. | :13:49. | |
I also recall that only recently she shared with myself and others that | :13:50. | :13:57. | |
she could not make something because she was applying camomile lotion to | :13:58. | :14:04. | |
the chickenpox spots of... With myself and others, she shared that | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
she could not make something because she was applying camomile motion to | :14:08. | :14:14. | |
the... Sorry, we have lost our line to | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
Caroline Flint, but remembering her friend and colleague, Jo Cox, as so | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
many are this morning. Normal Parliamentary business is suspended | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
for now, campaigning in the referendum is suspended. It is not | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
clear when campaigning will resume, but there was supposed to be a big | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
set these events tonight, Andrew Neil talking to Iain Duncan Smith | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
for the latest in his head to head interviews on the referendum. That | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
is not going to be going ahead. There are also some calls for | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
Parliament to be recalled, as MPs struggled to come to terms with what | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
has happened. And we were hearing from one MP, who was a close friend | :14:55. | :15:01. | |
of Jo Cox, saying it would be a good thing for them to get together in | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
Parliament just to talk about her. Caroline, would you like to see | :15:06. | :15:12. | |
Parliament recalled? I think, you know, if we do come back together to | :15:13. | :15:20. | |
Parliament next week... There as part of me that sort of feels that I | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
would like to have something rather like the vigil service in Birstall | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
the other night, last night, where actually we just can come together | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
in a quiet way and think about what Jo and her family and what has | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
happened. I think that is the most important thing at the moment, and | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
there will be time for all of us to talk about our work and what we do | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
and how we deal with that and where we may need to look at security. | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
What I would not like, Joanna macro, is to come back to Parliament and | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
lose sight of what we want to come back for, which is to think about | :16:02. | :16:07. | |
Jo. If we do go back, I do not know that is making sense to you, but I | :16:08. | :16:14. | |
feel like we should come back and reflect in quietness, maybe with a | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
few contributions, and that is what we should be doing, rather than | :16:19. | :16:21. | |
coming back to Parliament and having a bigger debate about the future and | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
what we do about how we work as MPs. I would like to make sure that we | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
focus on what is the most important thing at this present time, thinking | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
about Jo and her family. That is completely clear and understandable. | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
Anything that any of us go through that is shocking, or we lose | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
somebody dear to us, it changes us. You move on eventually, you deal | :16:43. | :16:51. | |
with it in the long term, but do you feel, even though it has just | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
happened, that it might change the way you see politics? How are you | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
feeling this morning about how you contemplate what has happened? Well, | :17:02. | :17:13. | |
I am feeling sorrow, and so sad, you know, fog Jo's loved ones. -- for. | :17:14. | :17:19. | |
In terms of politics, if something comes out of this, it is about | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
understanding that MPs, anybody in political life should be held to | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
account. And when they do things wrong, they should answer for that. | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
But I think we should be really proud of our democracy, and proud of | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
our political system, because for the most part it is a very good | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
system, and people come into politics with the best of reasons, | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
for the most part, and to do a good job. And I think, if anything, if it | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
says something about what MPs do outside of just being in Parliament, | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
and how that is such an important contribution to helping people, | :18:01. | :18:02. | |
ordinary people, have their voices heard. I think that would be a | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
really good thing. Thank you very much, Caroline Flint, friend and | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
colleague of Jo Cox, joining us. Let's talk more about the questions | :18:14. | :18:21. | |
raised about MPs security, touching on security issues there, with | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
Caroline Flint, people are talking about it this morning, it is still | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
very raw, but it is obviously an issue that will be discussed now and | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
in the coming days and weeks. Yes, absolutely, and it is emerging that | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
there were already security concerns surrounding the Labour MP. It | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
emerged that, in March this year, one man was arrested following what | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
has been described as malicious communication. Now, he was given a | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
caution by police. Just to make it clear, the man who received the | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
caution was not the man who was arrested yesterday on suspicion of | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
murder. We have also heard a lot from her colleagues, as we were just | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
hearing them, and other colleagues who have in fact said she was | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
receiving more malicious communication, and police were | :19:10. | :19:12. | |
looking into this. There are reports that police were looking into | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
beefing up the security surrounding her homes, not only in London, but | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
in Yorkshire. And I have been speaking to Lord Kinnock, who knew | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
her extremely well for around 20 years, and he described to me a | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
little bit about what she was like, but also any security concerns she | :19:29. | :19:29. | |
had. Just a little technical issue at the | :19:30. | :19:41. | |
moment, we are just finding that. We can listen to it now, Frankie. She | :19:42. | :19:49. | |
would use her very high intelligence for its best purpose, solving | :19:50. | :19:58. | |
practical problems. Steve, our sun, her colleague, spoke of her last | :19:59. | :20:08. | |
night when we talked to him, as a doer. And that is what you was, she | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
would identify a problem and pursued, and she was prepared to | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
fight on every front - for justice, fair play, common-sense. And this | :20:17. | :20:24. | |
was a woman that couldn't be suppressed. If she had a fault, and | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
I guess everybody has got a fault, it is that she was too modest. Not | :20:30. | :20:38. | |
in any cloying way, not with false modesty, but I used to say to her | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
sometimes, as indeed Glenys did, but a bit harder for your wife, because | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
of the need to get her - not any selfish motive - the need to get | :20:50. | :20:57. | |
hurt. And she just smiled and... There will always be a sort of | :20:58. | :21:00. | |
giggle in her voice, she had that kind of voice. She was full of | :21:01. | :21:12. | |
merriment. Are you OK? Do you... There have been some concerns and | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
reports that she was perceiving some form of hate mail at some point | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
macro, did she ever speak to you or her family about her personal | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
security? Not in solemn terms like that. In any conversation, | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
occasionally in conversation, these things crop up, when people are | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
politically active. When we talk together. And in fact I remarked on | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
the reality that, whilst when I was a Member of Parliament in the 1970s | :21:44. | :21:51. | |
and 1980s, I would occasionally encounter dances that could I guess, | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
be described as dangerous, sometimes because of political antagonism, | :21:57. | :22:03. | |
sharply felt, and sometimes because people were just utterly hopeless. | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
That was Lord Kinnock speaking to me just a little bit earlier, and this | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
seems to be an issue, the security issue, that has been bubbling up | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
over a number of years. There have been incidents in the past, and | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
something I am sure we are going to be discussing much more in the | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
future, Joanna. Thank you, thank you. We're going to speak to Neil | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
Kinnock's some right now, his sun had known Jo for 20 years, and they | :22:30. | :22:36. | |
shared an office with each other. -- son. Upsetting to see your father | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
clearly so deeply affected by this, how are you feeling? Because she was | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
a good family friend, wasn't she? She was, and we are absolutely | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
devastated. It is a terrible, terrible waste, and she was such an | :22:52. | :22:59. | |
amazing person. I have known her for 20 years, and we share an office in | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
Westminster, and I will always remember her coming in in a cycling | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
gear, cycling helmet, grabbing some stuff. She used to use my cupboard | :23:09. | :23:12. | |
as a wardrobe, grabbing some stuff to get changed. We would have a | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
chat, and you knew that if you saw Jo at the beginning of your day, | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
your day was going to be a better day. She just had so much positive | :23:22. | :23:28. | |
energy and optimism and, you know, she was a real fighter for the | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
causes that she believed in, and she inspired us. She inspired all of the | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
new intake of MPs and many, many others. She really had the street | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
cred, she had been out there working in the refugee camps, working with | :23:45. | :23:47. | |
the poorest and most dispossessed people on the planet. And she just | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
had that authority about her, because of that, but also the | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
special charisma and charm that she had, I mean, she was one in a | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
million. She could never ever be replaced. You obviously, as you say, | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
sharing an office, working at close quarters - did she ever talk to you | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
about security worries? Yeah, a little while ago, I mean we all get | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
dozens, almost on a daily basis, of vicious and aggressive e-mails and | :24:20. | :24:26. | |
tweets and Facebook messages, whatever it might be. You just get | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
used to it, it kind of becomes water off a duck's back, but she did | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
mention a little while ago some kind of creepy messages which she had | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
been getting, but I think that is what was reported in the Times | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
today, and I do not think it was related to the tragic events of | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
yesterday. I think that it was something else. But it reflects the | :24:48. | :24:54. | |
fact that sometimes people develop bizarre obsessions and starts to get | :24:55. | :25:01. | |
feelings of violence and aggression, and sometimes public figures like | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
MPs are on the receiving end of that. MPs, when I have a | :25:06. | :25:11. | |
constituency surgeries, are completely accessible to anybody who | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
wants to come and see them. It was just after one of those sessions | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
that Jo was attacked. Does that need to change? Can that change? Well, I | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
think the fact that we are so close to our constituents and very open, | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
and I run surgeries like that on a very regular basis as well, is | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
really important as part of our democratic process. I think it is | :25:37. | :25:39. | |
very important that we hold onto those and protect them as something | :25:40. | :25:46. | |
that we hold dear. But what I think is more where we could add trying to | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
address this issue is around the mood music. It is around the way the | :25:52. | :25:58. | |
media lays into politicians. I mean, you know, of course we have to have | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
a robust debate, but I think it goes over the mark sometimes, and the way | :26:04. | :26:05. | |
politicians sometimes interact with each other, and then of course the | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
way that all gets into the melting parts of social media, and what | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
social media has done as with everything up, where you can, in 140 | :26:15. | :26:21. | |
characters, you can completely monster somebody in terms of their | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
reputation, personally, their family, as individuals. That, I | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
think, is dangerous, because it creates a permissive environment, | :26:33. | :26:35. | |
where sometimes it is not that big a jump from saying and writing | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
horrible stuff to actually doing something horrible. And there I | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
think we need to have a conversation about the tone of our politics, and | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
we need to reflect on that in the light of what has happened to Jo. | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
You are talking about the roles of media and social media in that - | :26:55. | :26:57. | |
what about politicians themselves? Do you think that potentially a | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
legacy of this might be gentler politics? I mean, obviously, in the | :27:01. | :27:09. | |
immediate aftermath of anything, people will look at the way things | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
are done, possibly the type of politics you are talking about, but | :27:15. | :27:17. | |
do you believe there may be a long-term impact? Well, I hope so, | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
and I absolutely agree that you cannot just separate media, social | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
media and politics and politicians. It is all part of one big picture, | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
and that conversation has to take place between all of us in terms of | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
what it means to be in public life in this UK, what sort of example we | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
set to others. But then we have to also get some of those people out | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
there, who are full of hatred and anger, to reflect today, and I hope, | :27:48. | :27:55. | |
to dial it down. And while it's down in the long term, not just for a | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
week or two weeks, whilst at the memory of this appalling thing is | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
still raw, but for ever. I think we do need to change the tone, because | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
if we don't, there is such a risk that this sort of thing could even | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
happen again. And what we also have to reflect on is what Jo Cox stood | :28:14. | :28:19. | |
for through her whole life - she stood for the values of decency and | :28:20. | :28:30. | |
into nationalism and... -- international is. And solving | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
problems together in the community, hope not hate, and I hope that those | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
values that she stood for will be something that we can honour, and | :28:42. | :28:51. | |
when I say we, everybody who has an opinion and is out on social media, | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
they need to reflect on what Jo stood for, and they need to think | :28:57. | :28:59. | |
about their own behaviour in that light. It is clearly very upsetting | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
for you to talk about someone who was very dear to you. Finish, if you | :29:05. | :29:12. | |
will, with what... When you think of Jo now, what will be the key thing | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
about her that will come into your mind? You said before that when you | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
met her at the start of the day, you knew the day would be good. That | :29:21. | :29:26. | |
right, she just had that wonderful optimism and hope radiating from | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
her, such a ball of energy, so you just had to be near her and you | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
picked up some of that positive energy, irradiated off her. But I | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
think I will remember her mostly as a mother, and she often used to | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
bring the kids in, she was constantly juggling the demands of a | :29:45. | :29:50. | |
busy job with being the mother of two young kids. They used to come | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
in, they would draw a picture for me, we would always have a chat, two | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
absolutely lovely kids. And I had the privilege of spending a bit of | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
time at their cottage in Monmouthshire, so not that far from | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
my constituency, so I did spend some lovely time there, and I remember | :30:07. | :30:12. | |
going out on a little canoe trip just in the river by their cottage, | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
with her and the kids and Brendan. And I will always remember that, | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
because you saw the way that she was with those kids and how much she | :30:22. | :30:28. | |
loved them and... I think I will probably remember her in that light, | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
more than any other. Thank you very much, Stephen Kinnock. | :30:33. | :30:38. | |
Lots of you have been getting in touch. Kemal has tweeted, we are all | :30:39. | :30:46. | |
shocked, it has happened in a society of tolerance, there are no | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
words. Martin has e-mailed to say, I want to express sympathy to all | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
those who knew her, I am a 60-year-old veteran, I family means | :30:55. | :31:01. | |
everything to me and my heart goes out to hers. Pam has e-mailed, | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
terribly sad, my condolences. She spent time at the GP practice that I | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
managed, to find out about the sharp end of primary care, a very | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
impressive woman who was genuine in her desire to improve life for the | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
ordinary person. Bill has e-mailed to say, she was truly robbed of her | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
life potential, she was a radiant young lady and adoring mother. I | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
feel sick to hear about her taking from her family and friends. William | :31:31. | :31:37. | |
says, I did not know her but I have felt the grief and emotions, I can't | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
believe what happened to this wonderful woman, my heart goes out | :31:42. | :31:47. | |
to her family. Much more tributes still ahead. Also still to come, the | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
pioneering skin cancer drugs that will be available to everyone in | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
England after the NHS agrees to fund them. We will hear from people | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
worried about who will care from them in old age because they don't | :32:01. | :32:04. | |
have children. A new report says that the government should be doing | :32:05. | :32:13. | |
more for the ageing population. Let's catch up with all of the news | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
with Anita in the newsroom. Thank you, Joanna. | :32:19. | :32:20. | |
Vigils have been held for the Labour MP Jo Cox who died yesterday | :32:21. | :32:23. | |
after being shot and stabbed in an assault in her constituency. | :32:24. | :32:26. | |
The 41-year-old mother became an MP in the general election last year. | :32:27. | :32:29. | |
David Cameron said the killing was tragic and dreadful news. | :32:30. | :32:31. | |
She was attacked in the village of Birstall after she held her | :32:32. | :32:34. | |
Russian athletes will find out later today whether they will be allowed | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
to compete in the Rio Olympics following claims | :32:40. | :32:40. | |
Members of the world governing body of athletics | :32:41. | :32:46. | |
are meeting in Vienna to make the decision. | :32:47. | :32:48. | |
The team was suspended earlier this year following a damning report | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
by the World Anti-Doping Agency which alleged systemic cheating. | :32:52. | :33:03. | |
Barack Obama has renewed his appeal for tougher gun control | :33:04. | :33:05. | |
measures to be introduced in the United States. | :33:06. | :33:07. | |
The US President has met survivors and relatives | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
of the 49 people killed in the Orlando nightclub shooting. | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
He called on the Republican-controlled Congress | :33:15. | :33:16. | |
to pass new legislation following the attack, | :33:17. | :33:17. | |
and said all sides should do more to stop such mass | :33:18. | :33:20. | |
As has been true too many times before, I held and hugged grieving | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
And they asked, why does this keep happening? | :33:25. | :33:34. | |
And they pleaded that we do more to stop the carnage. | :33:35. | :33:41. | |
The Labour Party has held the south-London | :33:42. | :33:43. | |
constituency of Tooting, previously held by Sadiq | :33:44. | :33:44. | |
Khan who last month was elected Mayor of London. | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
Rosena Allin-Khan, who's a junior doctor, | :33:50. | :33:52. | |
won with a majority of more than 6,000. | :33:53. | :33:54. | |
A two-minute silence was held during the count | :33:55. | :33:56. | |
Ms Allin-Khan paid tribute to her, instead of giving a victory speech. | :33:57. | :34:04. | |
The American rock star Meat Loaf has been taken to hospital | :34:05. | :34:07. | |
after collapsing on stage during a concert in Canada. | :34:08. | :34:09. | |
Fans at last night's show in Edmonton saw | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
fall down while performing his hit song | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
Canadian media reported the music venue was then cleared | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
Meat Loaf had previously cancelled two recent concerts due to illness. | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom | :34:26. | :34:28. | |
See you later, thanks, Anita stops Sally is in Paris again. Over to | :34:29. | :34:46. | |
you. -- thanks, Anita. If you are an England fan you will still be | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
celebrating but heartbreak for Welsh bands after they conceded a | :34:50. | :34:53. | |
last-minute goal. Northern Ireland are still in with a chance of | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
qualifying for the knockout stages after beating Ukraine 2-0. Gareth | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
McAuley put them ahead and then they had to overcome bizarre summer | :35:04. | :35:06. | |
conditions here in France. The hailstorm caused players and | :35:07. | :35:12. | |
officials to run for cover and the match was briefly suspended. They | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
did not bother them much despite heavy Ukrainian pressure. | :35:16. | :35:20. | |
Niall McGinn poked home a second goal lead in stoppage time | :35:21. | :35:23. | |
We did not just come here to make up the numbers. | :35:24. | :35:30. | |
The hard work happened over the past two years. | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
Getting here is just a party from now on and it's a bonus, | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
we are not here to make up the numbers, watch out the Germans, | :35:37. | :35:39. | |
It's amazing, the last ten minutes were so nerve wracking, | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
My prediction was 2-0, I'm glad we won, bring on Germany. | :35:44. | :35:51. | |
30 years of being a Northern Ireland fan, now I know why I've done it. | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
They changed the formation and had a completely different | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
approach, the horizontal rain did it! | :36:01. | :36:03. | |
It's a proud day for me, for the country as well. | :36:04. | :36:10. | |
The first win in the European Championships, it's our first time | :36:11. | :36:12. | |
The level of performance is what I'm most proud of, the players reacted | :36:13. | :36:21. | |
to the defeat in the first game and the disappointment | :36:22. | :36:23. | |
I thought today every one was magnificent. | :36:24. | :36:35. | |
England are top of group B after beating Wales 2-1. Their first | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
victory of this championship. Daniel Sturridge scored in injury | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
time to clinch the dramatic win. Wales had lead at half-time before | :36:43. | :36:44. | |
Roy Hodgson made a double substitution which paid off | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
as Jamie Vardy equalised and then Daniel Sturridge put them | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
on the brink of qualification with his goal, and that prompted | :36:51. | :36:53. | |
jubilation from the manager! As you saw on the bench, | :36:54. | :37:01. | |
probably the most spontaneous exhibition - if you like - | :37:02. | :37:10. | |
of pure joy from myself that we have seen for a fair while, | :37:11. | :37:12. | |
but that is what these tournaments do to you, they make | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
certain that you suffer. We are here to get into the last 16 | :37:18. | :37:29. | |
and we have always said that. It was always the middle game of three. We | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
are gutted. We have to move on and put this Tibet and show a reaction. | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
We play on Monday against that of Russian team knowing that if we get | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
a good result, then we are still in the tournament, so it is still all | :37:43. | :37:43. | |
to play for. I think you will like this, | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
if you want to impress Jockey Ryan Moore rode | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
Order Of Saint George to victory in the Gold Cup at Ascot, | :37:51. | :37:57. | |
have a look at this. The moment of the presentation, you | :37:58. | :38:06. | |
cannot get more colour-coordinated than that! I wonder if they had a | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
little conversation beforehand to work it out. That's it from me, I | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
will have more sport throughout the morning. See you later, Sally. | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
The NHS in England is to pay for two pioneering cancer drugs that use | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
James Gallagher is here. What are these drugs and how effective have | :38:24. | :38:35. | |
they been? Let's go back in time ten years and think what was happening | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
to patients with advanced melanoma. The average life span was nine | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
months after diagnosis but with these drugs, they give the immune | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
system boost and allow it to attack cancer which we will explain in a | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
bit, but two years after starting the therapy 69% of patients have | :38:55. | :38:57. | |
tumours that are shrinking, most of these would have been dead before, | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
and a fifth have no sign of cancer at all. Remarkable difference | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
compared to ten years ago. Extraordinary. It has been so | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
effective that it has been fast-track. This is almost unheard | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
of in terms of the speed of drugs being officially licensed. The NHS | :39:16. | :39:22. | |
say this will be offered to every suitable patient in England. There | :39:23. | :39:28. | |
is a body called Nice that approves drugs for England but it is hugely | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
influential in the rest of the UK, Wales and Northern Ireland etc will | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
follow suit. This is great news for skin cancer treatment but in terms | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
of the bigger picture and immunotherapy for cancer patients, | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
does it kind of have implications for that? These have been tried, I | :39:46. | :39:51. | |
have just returned from the world's biggest cancer conference in | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
America, and it is the talk of the town, everybody thinks this will be | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
one of the great pillars of cancer treatment, alongside radiotherapy, | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
this will be the next big thing in treating cancer. One of the things | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
that is so exciting is that it has a really long-term effect. They seem | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
to fail after a few months, and then Michu resists the treatment and the | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
patient dies. For immunotherapy, it only works really well in a small | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
subset of patients but for those for whom it works it lasts for years | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
with a really beneficial effect. Thank you very much. Let's talk more | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
about the tragic loss of Jo Cox. Her husband Brendan posted this | :40:32. | :40:42. | |
photograph and said she had an energy and zest for life that would | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
exhaust most people. They divided their time between their | :40:48. | :40:50. | |
constituency in West Yorkshire and living in a houseboat on the Thames. | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
Their commute to Westminster was something out of the ordinary, too. | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
Normally I hope to be zipping down to the House of Commons about half | :40:59. | :41:05. | |
an hour away from where I live. On a little speedboat. This is a way to | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
start the day, isn't it?! Yorkshire born and bred, she only became an MP | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
last year and at that time she spoke of her joy at representing her proud | :41:16. | :41:21. | |
and no-nonsense constituency. The spirit of nonconformity is as | :41:22. | :41:24. | |
present now in my part of West Yorkshire as it was in the time of | :41:25. | :41:30. | |
my two media predecessors, Mike would and Elizabeth Peacock. They | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
were both known for their own brand of independent, nonconformist | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
service. Albeit in very different ways. I intend to maintain that | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
established tradition in my own unique style. Before her election | :41:44. | :41:49. | |
she was a tireless campaigner, and aid worker. She spent ten years | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
working in international development which took her to conflict zones | :41:54. | :41:57. | |
around the world. She met her husband Brendan working for Oxfam | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
who described her as a passionate campaigner on humanitarian issues. | :42:03. | :42:05. | |
She worked closely with Sarah Brent on, the wife of former Prime | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
Minister Gordon Brown. When we spoke to her last October she called | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
repeatedly for Britain to do more to help the victims of the Syrian Civil | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
War. I spent ten years as an aid worker in many conflict zones around | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
the world and I have seen that military intervention saves lives, | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
it did in Kosovo, Bosnia and Sierra Leone. A case can be made when you | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
have an intervention grounded in the protection of innocent civilians, | :42:34. | :42:36. | |
and military component can save lives. My big proposal when we | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
debate this will be that the government should consider a no | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
bombing zone to stop President Assad raining down aerial bombardment on | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
innocent people, killing grandmothers and mums and dads, and | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
change the dynamic and force him to the table. | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
Holly Lynch is the Labour MP for Halifax and was | :42:59. | :43:00. | |
Holly, thank you for joining us at this very difficult time. How close | :43:01. | :43:13. | |
were you to Jo? We were both newly elected last year, both obviously | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
MPs from the same area of West Yorkshire. Both represented quite | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
similar constituencies actually, we would regularly swap notes about | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
what was working, what was best practice, the challenges we had and | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
how to share information and good ideas about campaigns. She really | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
was an incredible woman and I was her whip as well when I was asked to | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
join the whip's office towards the end of last year. We had a close | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
working relationship but we were good friends as well. What did you | :43:45. | :43:51. | |
take from her? She really was like people have already said, a ball of | :43:52. | :43:54. | |
energy, she was incredibly dynamic in the way she went about her | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
politics and she came in with a real clarity of what she was trying to | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
achieve in Westminster. She really did not waste any time in getting on | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
with that. We have heard tributes from right across the chamber, right | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
across the benches and all over the UK, she really did build support for | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
the arguments she was making from everywhere, and that was grounded in | :44:15. | :44:26. | |
her vast experience of the issues that she was quite often working on. | :44:27. | :44:29. | |
She would take people with her and was really able to make a difference | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
in Westminster in the time that she had on that basis. It was said that | :44:33. | :44:35. | |
she seemingly had more hours in the day than anyone because of how much | :44:36. | :44:37. | |
she packed in, what was her secret? I really could not tell you, I do | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
not know. As we have heard she was rooted in her family as well, two | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
young kids, the kids recently had chickenpox, and she would always | :44:49. | :44:51. | |
update you on the trials and tribulations of being a working mum | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
with two young children, she was besotted with them. On top of that | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
she was this incredibly dynamic MP who managed to achieve so much and | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
she really did set the standard for all of us. About what was possible | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
when you really got stuck in, and this is such a tragedy that she just | :45:10. | :45:12. | |
had those humans with us in Westminster. -- those few months. | :45:13. | :45:20. | |
It seems a lot of people were looking at where her career may have | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
led, what were your thoughts? She had a confidence in our own | :45:26. | :45:30. | |
convictions, when she was speaking, that was very much rooted in her | :45:31. | :45:35. | |
vast experience. When she spoke, she knew she had a mandate to represent | :45:36. | :45:38. | |
those people who had elected. She really did get on with the job, and | :45:39. | :45:45. | |
you could see she was going to go on to great things in Westminster. So, | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
so sad that you won't have the opportunity to do that. Yeah. There | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
has been research done on the vulnerability of MPs, because of the | :45:55. | :46:00. | |
nature of the job. I mean, obviously, what happened to her | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
happened after she had been in contact with constituents, it is | :46:05. | :46:07. | |
something that all MPs do when they go to their constituency, and meet | :46:08. | :46:13. | |
local people, whether it is in a formal session or whether they are | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
out shopping or whatever it is. Did she ever talk to you about any | :46:19. | :46:24. | |
concerns? Well, I think, for all of us that came in in 2015, you do have | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
to get used to the way Westminster works, but also you do have to get | :46:30. | :46:33. | |
quite thick skin quite quickly, actually. It took all us back a | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
little bit, because the nature of the jobs that you engaged with a lot | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
of people, and the nature of democracy is you meet people with a | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
different opinion to yours. You have to listen to all of those, and you | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
try to take those views and opinions with you in your decision-making. | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
There is a challenge, I think, and how we manage that. We have seen | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
that there are people who struggle to articulate that in a way that is | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
responsible and respectable, in going about their business of an MP | :47:04. | :47:07. | |
and engaging on issues where you might have different opinions, but | :47:08. | :47:11. | |
you have already mentioned that Jo was just going about her business as | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
a hard-working MP in a constituency. She was holding an advice surgery, | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
something we all do. You try to make yourself as available as possible as | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
an MP. And so we do have to think about how we can ensure the safety | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
of those people coming to the surgery as well, but our staff, who | :47:30. | :47:33. | |
are often with us, and it would be really sad if we have to change the | :47:34. | :47:39. | |
way we start engaging with people to reflect these very serious but | :47:40. | :47:42. | |
unusual incidents. Holly, thank you very much for joining us with your | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
memories and thoughts this morning. Thank you. Much more coverage coming | :47:47. | :47:53. | |
up on the sad death of Jo Cox with any two Newsroom Live -- with Anita | :47:54. | :48:01. | |
on Newsroom Live. Do you ever worry about who will | :48:02. | :48:03. | |
take care of you in old age? Many elderly people can rely | :48:04. | :48:06. | |
on their children for extra support. But what about those | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
who don't have children? Many say they feel | :48:10. | :48:11. | |
invisible or ignored - according to the charity Ageing | :48:12. | :48:13. | |
without Children - which is calling for a national strategy to deal | :48:14. | :48:16. | |
with issues around ageing. One in five people over the age | :48:17. | :48:19. | |
of 50 don't have children. Britain is an ageing society, | :48:20. | :48:21. | |
with approximately 23 million The number of people aged 60 | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
or over is expected to pass A separate adult social care | :48:26. | :48:32. | |
inquiry was launched Here to discuss this | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
issue is Kirsty Woodard, the founder of | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
Ageing without Children She has cared for her elderly mother | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
with dementia for ten years, Ming is worried about who will look | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
after her when she gets older. Sue Lister is 71, | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
and a lesbian with no children. Her partner Anne has children | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
and grandchildren in Vancouver. Thank you all very much for joining | :49:00. | :49:16. | |
us for this conversation. Kirsty, you founded the charity DRS, why did | :49:17. | :49:22. | |
you decide to do that? I have spent 20 years working with older people, | :49:23. | :49:25. | |
so I have always been passionately interested in the effect of ageing | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
on society, but it was really when I came to realise about two years ago | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
that I would never have children of my own that I suddenly thought, what | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
about the older people I have worked with who do not have family? That is | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
going to be me in a 30 or 40 years' time, what is going to happen to me? | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
Because I had seen what had happened to them, and I thought, we have to | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
do better than this, we have to have solutions, because it is a growing | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
number of the population now. And what have you seen happening to | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
people getting old without children? Generally speaking, they are | :50:01. | :50:08. | |
overlooked and ignored, not because people were overtly being horrible | :50:09. | :50:09. | |
or anything, but generally speaking, if they were in a hospital bed, and | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
there were not children to advocate for them, or come along and make | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
sure that they had water or were being taken to the loo or whatever, | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
because the nursing staff are very stretched in rushing about, often | :50:22. | :50:25. | |
they would just get overlooked. I have seen, again, people I had | :50:26. | :50:28. | |
worked with who were trying to get support from social care, buried of | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
the girls to navigate that system on your own. -- very difficult to | :50:33. | :50:40. | |
navigate. Often I would be working with people and their children, we | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
would be getting services in place. People without children, they don't | :50:46. | :50:49. | |
have that extra person to help, they don't have that extra hand who is | :50:50. | :50:53. | |
kind of holding and saying, you know, it will be OK, we will sort | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
this out. Ming, you have been this person for your mum, and now we were | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
worried there is no-one for you when you get older. I did not become | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
consciously worried about it, but it occurred to me when I noticed the | :51:08. | :51:12. | |
campaign, and I thought, gosh, yes, that does apply to me. You don't go | :51:13. | :51:15. | |
through your life, thinking, what will happen to me when I get older? | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
The campaign is encouraging people to think about those issues before | :51:20. | :51:23. | |
it becomes a practical necessity. Because my mum has dementia, she has | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
had it coming on her for 20 years, and throughout all of that time she | :51:29. | :51:31. | |
has retained a level of quite good social function. So she has never | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
considered that she needed help at all, but she was not aware of the | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
increasing needs that she had, and I gradually assumed all of those | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
responsibilities. It is supple, it is gradual, it comes up over a long | :51:46. | :51:49. | |
period of time, and it is only when it gets into crisis mode that you | :51:50. | :51:53. | |
realise how much it does entail. And if you had not been a glance, what | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
do you think would have happened? I do not think my mum would be here | :51:58. | :52:03. | |
today. She's coming up on 90 now, and I am lucky she is in a good | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
home, which I have trust in, but if she had not been able to find a | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
place there, if I had not found that place and supported her to live well | :52:13. | :52:17. | |
in it now, frankly, I don't think she would be alive now. She was | :52:18. | :52:20. | |
getting into crisis regularly before she went into care, not being able | :52:21. | :52:27. | |
to feed herself, look after her domestic circumstances, finances, | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
physical abilities, appointments, advocacy, everything, really. It | :52:33. | :52:37. | |
puts a big burden on you. Yes, it is, and you do it because you love | :52:38. | :52:41. | |
somebody when it is your family, you do it without thinking, because that | :52:42. | :52:44. | |
is the way your relationship works. That is what people need to | :52:45. | :52:49. | |
consider, advocacy is a huge part of caring for someone, and if you do | :52:50. | :52:53. | |
not have that emotional investment, it is hard to think you will take on | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
that level of responsibility. Sue, you have no children of your own, | :52:58. | :53:04. | |
your partner has children in Canada, are you worried about who will fill | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
that role for you as you get older? No, because the quality of life is | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
what I care about, so when my quality of life gets beyond what I | :53:15. | :53:23. | |
am willing that my if I am in pain, I am a campaign, so the whole spirit | :53:24. | :53:29. | |
of Jo Cox is in fusing me and the millions of people who campaign for | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
a more peaceful and a better life around the world. I have joined | :53:33. | :53:40. | |
Dignity In Dying so that if I am within six months of a terminal | :53:41. | :53:46. | |
illness, I want the right to die. I am an atheist, my life is my | :53:47. | :53:49. | |
responsibility, I want to die when I want to die, whose life is it | :53:50. | :53:55. | |
anyway? So I am not worried about it, but what I have done is start | :53:56. | :54:01. | |
following Kirsty's campaign, starting a group in York, and there | :54:02. | :54:09. | |
the people from a total range of reasons why they are there. 50 years | :54:10. | :54:12. | |
married and now they are living alone with no children, never having | :54:13. | :54:19. | |
had children, wondering where to turn. We did a survey, 35% of people | :54:20. | :54:25. | |
did not know where to turn, they were blank, they haven't thought | :54:26. | :54:30. | |
about it. Somebody said that the social services, God help us! | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
Another one said, if it gets too bad, I'd rather die. The Government, | :54:36. | :54:43. | |
this needs to be put on the agenda. People need to do the thinking - if | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
we have got a hugely ageing society, with a huge percentage of people, | :54:49. | :55:06. | |
especially in lesbian, gay, bi and trans, 80% of whom do not have | :55:07. | :55:09. | |
children, we need to put this on the agenda and take care of each other. | :55:10. | :55:17. | |
Kirsty, Ming outline the list of things she does for her mum, how do | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
you find someone who does not have the emotional investment to fulfil | :55:22. | :55:26. | |
that role? What are your answers to this issue? Well, that is one of the | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
reasons why we did the report, was to try and think of some solutions, | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
because at the moment there are not a lot of solutions at there. One of | :55:36. | :55:39. | |
the things we are calling for is a national strategy, because this is a | :55:40. | :55:44. | |
very big problem, a wicked problem, and we need everybody to get around | :55:45. | :55:47. | |
the table and work together to come up with solutions. We talk in the | :55:48. | :55:52. | |
report about investment in advocacy services, we certainly need that. | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
Are there many services as at the moment? Do they do a good job? | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
Advocacy services are fantastic, but they are incredibly overstretched, | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
and are funded. They rely mostly on local authority funding. We know how | :56:08. | :56:13. | |
hard that is being hit. Or they are lying on funding from charitable | :56:14. | :56:20. | |
trusts, which is time-limited. -- they are relying. Sue, I heard what | :56:21. | :56:25. | |
you said, obviously, about the fact that quality of life is what matters | :56:26. | :56:30. | |
to you, and it did not seem to be link with a lack of having children | :56:31. | :56:34. | |
- do you think you would feel differently if you did have children | :56:35. | :56:37. | |
to guide you through your final days? I have never wanted children. | :56:38. | :56:48. | |
I joined a group in Vancouver called No Kidding because of the stigma | :56:49. | :56:51. | |
attached to people who did not want children, had never wanted children, | :56:52. | :56:58. | |
and had travelled the world, had explored, have lived a life full of | :56:59. | :57:10. | |
curious at Yanda wonder and awe. My family line comes to an end with my | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
sister, myself and my brother. That is it. Actually, we are hoping the | :57:16. | :57:18. | |
human population to keep itself down. But I am not worried about | :57:19. | :57:26. | |
that, because I am living life to the full, now. It is very important | :57:27. | :57:34. | |
to appreciate what we are given, and I am looking through this campaign | :57:35. | :57:41. | |
to create peer support and peer caring, so that our groups, the | :57:42. | :57:51. | |
ageing groups without children can and stand what it is like and be | :57:52. | :57:56. | |
there for one another. Thank you all very much. BBC newsroom life is | :57:57. | :58:03. | |
coming up next. Thank you for your company today. -- Newsroom Life. | :58:04. | :58:11. | |
Rebecca has e-mailed, I never knew Jo Cox, but we are so shocked that | :58:12. | :58:16. | |
this could happen to a vibrant mother, wife and MP. Amanda has | :58:17. | :58:20. | |
said, tears for Jo Cox, such a tragic waste of a beautiful soul. | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
There are more tributes coming up on the BBC News Channel. Bye-bye. | :58:25. | :58:32. | |
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