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I'm Joanna Gosling. Welcome to the programme.

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Our top story: With just days

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to go till the referendum on the United Kingdom's membership

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of the European Union, the former Conservative Party chair,

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Lady Warsi, says she's changed her mind over the EU

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and is now supporting the campaign to remain in.

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She's angry over posters like this which she describes

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as nudge-nudge racism, something denied

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I made it quite clear on Sunday that that poster does not speak for Vote

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Leave, the official campaign. That is not the language we choose and

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our argument over controlling immigration is based on the consent

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of the voters and an ability to plan public services.

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Baroness Warsi joins car manufacturers and the English

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Premier League who have voiced their support for staying

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Also on the programme: As Parliament is recalled to pay tribute

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to the Labour MP Jo Cox, will her death change British politics?

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The British public are wonderful, they are decent, the way we behave

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is not decent. There is hate, there is poison.

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And in the Euros both Wales and England and are in action today.

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Both teams play their final qualification games tonight, with

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plenty at stake. Join us for more on the sport in the next 15 minutes.

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Good morning and welcome to the programme. We are live until 11

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o'clock. We will bring you the latest breaking news and developing

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With just days to go till the referendum

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on the United Kingom's membership of the European Union,

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the former Conservative Party chair, Lady Warsi, says she's

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changed her mind over the EU and is now supporting

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She accuses the Leave campaign of spreading hatred and xenophobia that

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Vote Leave does not remember her being on their side.

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Stepping out of the Leave camp and into Remain,

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as the referendum campaign enters its final stages.

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Although never a high-profile campaigner, this senior Conservative

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had voiced support on social media for leaving the EU.

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She was critical, though, of other Leave figures,

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attacking comments by Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

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But it was this poster depicting queuing migrants from his party last

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week that was too far for Lady Warsi.

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Now she is switching sides in the referendum,

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telling the Times that she can no longer support tactics that

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spread hate and xenophobia to win a campaign.

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Vote Leave said they didn't remember Lady Warsi ever having

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joined their campaign, and were bemused by the story.

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But her decision will be welcomed by the Prime Minister.

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David Cameron faced questions last night on the economy

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and on failing to meet the Government's immigration target.

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Is it really worth leaving the single market,

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damaging our economy, to make progress on this issue?

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It comes amid a shift in emphasis among some Leave campaign is on the

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issue of immigration. I am in favour of an amnesty for illegal immigrants

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who have been here for more than 12 years, unable to contribute to this

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economy, unable to pay taxes, unable to take a proper part in this

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society and I will tell you why. It is the humane thing to do, it is

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economically rational thing to do, and it means taking back control.

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With just three days of campaigning left, this debate is only likely to

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intensify. Tom Bateman, BBC News. the English Premier League has come

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out in favour of the UK remaining The motion was supported by all 20

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of the league's football clubs. Leave campaigners said EU membership

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reduced opportunities The group that represents

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the British car industry, which employs hundreds

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of thousands of people, has said it's in favour of the UK

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remaining in the European Union. The Society of Motor Manufacturers

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and Traders said access to the single market,

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and free movement of labour, But the Leave campaign say a vote

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for Brexit could provide Our political guru Norman Smith

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is at Westminster. What are we to make of the latest

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flurry of who is on whose side? I think Baroness Warsi's move is

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significant, not because she is a party chairman and not even because

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of her departure but because of what she is saying. She seems to be

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pointing to what is the key vulnerability of the Leave side in

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the last few days of this campaign and that is tone. The fear is that

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they get sucked up into the slip stream of Nigel Farage's much more

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abrasive approach, particularly around immigration and the official

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Leave campaign almost becomes the Nigel Farage campaign, which is

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their absolute nightmare. That is why over the weekend they have been

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desperately trying to push back, disassociating themselves from that

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post in particular, which has caused such a rout at which Baroness Warsi

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said was indefensible. -- such a row. Nigel Farage has defended the

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posted this morning, saying all that was wrong with it was the

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unfortunate timing coming just a few hours before the murder of Jo Cox.

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We released a poster, a similar one that I had released a couple of

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months before, and within two hours there was that tragic murder. I am

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sorry for the timing of this, of course I am. What the poster

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represented was the Schengen area and Angela Merkel's quality of

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unlimited numbers of people to come, literally breaking the Schengen zone

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apart, and the slogan was the EU is failing us all. There was nothing

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wrong with the poster but the timing was very unfortunate. It is not just

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that poster which has prompted Baroness Warsi to leave the Leave

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side. She is also furious about what she sees as Michael Gove's complete

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lies over Turkey, as she calls them. The idea that Turkey is going to

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join the EU imminently. It is also a question of the focus on

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immigration. She said she had hoped for a much more outward looking,

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optimistic, positive campaign, and that is what she had urged the

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Brexit campaign to focus on. That was her main criticism of the Leave

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side, that they allowed themselves to get sucked into focusing on

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immigration. This was her speaking on the Today programme this morning.

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Why is it that people like me, who are instinctively Eurosceptic, that

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feel that the EU needs reform and want to rebalance our relationship

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with Europe feeling that we have got to leave Leave? It is because day

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after day we hear the refugees are coming, the rapists are coming, the

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Turks are coming. It is a curious thing, but it seems to me that where

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the Leave side now are is that immigration is a double-edged sword.

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It is obviously their trump card, the centrepiece of their campaign,

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and it has driven a lot of their support. But at the same time it is

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their key weakness because the danger is that their tone gets

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wrapped up in Nigel Farage's tone and they become seen as one and the

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same. Throughout this whole campaign that has been a nightmare for the

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Leave side. They are desperate not to find themselves entangled with

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Nigel Farage so the public simply can't draw any distinction between

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them. Thank you. Sophie is in the BBC newsroom with a summary of the

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rest of the news. Good morning. Parliament is being recalled this

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afternoon so that politicians can pay their respects to the murdered

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Labour MP Jo Cox. Parliament had been

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in recess in the run-up Jo Cox was killed in her

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constituency of Birstall A fund set up in her memory has now

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raised over ?800,000. 52-year-old Thomas Mair has been

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charged with her murder and is due back in court later this

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morning. Three 12-year-old girls from Salford

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who became seriously ill after taking ecstasy,

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are now said to be Greater Manchester Police say a man

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and a woman have been arrested. It is thought the girls

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are among the youngest people in the UK to have fallen ill

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after taking the drug. A new report suggests children held

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in custody in England and Wales are twice as likely to have forced used

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against them than they were five years ago. The Howard League for

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Penal Reform says a new practice has emerged of locking up children in

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prison wings for 23 hours a day. We have more on this story just after

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10:30am. There should be more

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specialist help for pregnant women with epilepsy,

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according to new The Royal College of Obstetricians

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and Gynaecologists says more must be Experts warn that seizures can be

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harmful to both mothers and babies. The United Nations' refugee agency

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says that the number of people displaced by conflict has reached

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the highest level ever recorded. In a new report published

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on World Refugee Day the UN says more than 65 million people

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were either refugees, asylum seekers, or internally

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displaced by the end of last year. It says this represents one in every

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113 people on the planet. Residents from a town

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in Southern California have been evacuated from their homes

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after a wildfire jumped from five acres to 900 acres

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in a matter of hours. Hundreds of firefighters

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and an aircraft are working to beat the flames back in Potrero,

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east of San Diego. Temperatures in the area

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are hovering at around 49 degrees The Russian-born actor,

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Anton Yelchin, best known for playing Chekov in

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the recent Star Trek films, has been killed in a freak accident

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at his home in Los Angeles. Police say the actor, who was 27,

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became pinned against a wall when his car rolled towards him

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on his steep driveway. That's a summary of

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the latest BBC News. In the next few minutes we will be

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asking whether the death of Jo Cox will change British politics.

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Now the very latest sport from Sally in Paris. Good morning. Yes, crunch

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time for two of the home nations at the European Championships. Wales

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and England play their final group B matches tonight. There are lots of

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permutations, but put simply, England only need one point to be

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sure of going through while Wales need a win to guarantee

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qualification. We will hear from Chris Coleman in a moment but first

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let's head the England camp and Olly Foster in Saint-Etienne ahead of the

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match against Slovakia tonight. It looks as though Roy Hodgson might be

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about to make some changes. Is that wise? Yes, you have talked about the

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permutations. England sitting very pretty at the top of group B. A win

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will do great and they will top the group and get a far easier team to

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play in the last 16 of the tournament. We knew he was likely to

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make a couple of tactical changes. What he did at half-time against

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Wales in Lens, bringing on Jamie Vardy and Daniel Sturridge after 45

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minutes, it could be a gamble but it was a tactical masterstroke because

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they both scored, turning the match against Wales and getting the win to

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go top of the group. There are unconfirmed reports that not just

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those two will start but there will be four other changes. Up to six

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changes to the starting 11, including Wayne Rooney, the captain,

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being dropped. That certainly does come across as a gamble. The reasons

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for this are partly tactical because Raheem Sterling hasn't been playing

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very well. Harry Kane looks dog tired as well but apparently he is

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worried about fatigue. If they lose and it backfires, yes, they are on

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four points which should get them through anyway, but if they finish

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third and goes through, then it could be a very tough last 16 tie.

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It is a big risk if he goes through with these changes. He has always

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said he trusts in his 23 and it looks like he will put that to the

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test. Thank you. We'll Roy Hodgson take the risk? Wales will be through

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to the knockout stages of 2016 if they beat Russia in their final

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group game in Toulouse tonight. Even a draw might be enough for the

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Russians to progress. Their disappointing start to the

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tournament has been overshadowed by violence from some of their fans.

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Wales are second in group B with three points and their manager

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thinks whatever the result tonight, Euro 2016 is just the start for his

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side. Now that we have got to this tournament, nobody wants it to end.

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At the end of it, no matter when it gets knocked out, it is all over for

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us, the team is done. This team is very much in the middle of a

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journey. It is our first test of major football and it is fantastic,

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relentless. This group cannot lose because they will be going home when

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ever that time is with so much experience that in the past we have

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never got. The England game is on Radio 5 Live tonight and the Wales

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game is on Radio 5 Live Extra with highlights on BBC One at 10:50pm.

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Thank you. Politicians will return

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to Westminster this afternoon to pay tribute to Labour MP Jo Cox,

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who was killed in her constituency There are calls for MPs

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from different parties to sit together in the Commons

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in a show of unity. Normally each party sits

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in their own section. There's been no official decision

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yet on whether that will happen, but either way, the Conservative

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leader of the House of Commons, Chris Grayling,

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has said conventional party politics should be a million miles

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away from today's debate. But with the referendum

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campaign back under way, having been suspended for three days

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in tribute to Jo Cox, how long will it take

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for conventional party politics to return and all

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that it brings with it? Boris, well he is the life and soul

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of the party, but he is not the man you want driving you home at end of

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the evening. The strain of the campaign is beginning to tell on

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him. I think his judgment is going. Lord Heseltine is a humbug to WHO

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divided our party and a period of silence on his part would be

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welcome. It is always good to hear voices from the past. I would be

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grateful if they remained in the past! Ask my mother. I think I know

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what my mother would say, she would look across the dispatch box and

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say, "Do up your suit. Put on a tie and sing the National Anthem." If we

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are talking of motherly advice, my mother would say stand up for the

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principle of the Health Service free at the point of need for everybody.

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Stop lying. Ukip believes in the National Health Service, free at the

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point of delivery. It was you, it was you that prifised a large chunk

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of the Health Service. You're lying and you're lying. I'm going to come

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in now. You made the point... You know what Nigel Farage, it is not

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caused by immigrants. In your world every problem is caused by

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immigrants. This Prime Minister, three months ago, to have said all

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things were possible. He could even back Brexit to say if we leave, it

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will cause World War three. I think dishonest Dave works. This man has

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done more to divide this nation than anybody else. He has looked after

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his own profit and I still refer to him as dodgy Dave.

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Since Jo Cox's killing there have been repeated calls for her legacy

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to be an end to the nasty, tribal elements of British politics.

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I think the way we conduct politics can inspire people, can put people

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off, can lead to a poisoned environment and the way politics is

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conducted in this country is poisonous. I think the British

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public are wonderful. They're decent. The way we behave is not

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decent. There is hate. There is poison. So where we see hatred,

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where we find division, where we see imtolerance, we must drive it out of

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our politics and out of our public life and out of communities and if

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we truly want to honour Jo, then what we should do is recognise that

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her values, service, community, tolerance, the values she lived by

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and worked by, those are the values that we need to redouble in our

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national life in the months and in the years to come. In her memory, we

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will not allow those people that spread hatred and poison to divide

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our society. We will strengthen our democracy, strengthen our free

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speech. We should recognise that we've drifted into a situation where

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it is almost become accepted that MPs are the subject of venom and

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politician has become a term of abuse. And the debate has become so

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toxic. She gave a voice to those who cry for help she felt was not being

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heard. It changed attitudes and I know it contributed to a change in

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policy. When Jo would get abuse on Facebook or Twitter, we would talk.

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And sometimes cry together. But she would still focus on the positive

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and talk about the silent majority who didn't always shout the loudest.

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But over the past 48 hours people have not been silent. They have been

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vocal and passionate and have spoken from the heart with genuine emotion

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and no hidden agendas. Jo would have loved it.

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Here to discuss Stephen Kinnock, Labour MP, was a friend of Jo Cox.

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He shared an office with her and she had worked for his mother.

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He has written that parliament will never be the same

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He will be paying tribute to Jo Cox in the chamber later today.

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Tom Brake is Lib Dem for Carshalton and Wallington.

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He says, sadly, he doesn't think her death will change politics.

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Therese Coffey is Conservative MP for Suffolk Coastal.

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She says it's important that passionate politics continues.

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Joining us from their local BBC studios Dr Lisa Cameron,

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SNP MP for East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow.

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She's staying close to home this week to reassure her children.

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Jonathan Arnott is the Ukip MEP for the North East.

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Thank you all very much for joining us. Theresa, you have said that

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passionate politics needs to remain, but when you look at what we were

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just looking at there about some of the real vitry old that's seen in

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politics, where do you draw the line? You can be passionate about

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politics and about what you believe without impuning the motive of

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others and using the language of hatred and vitry old. I believe MPs

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come into Parliament and all politicians are motivated to do

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better things and make things better and you may disagree on the outcome

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or how we achieve those things. We must recognise the decisions we make

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have impact on people's lives as Jo exemplified working together with

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other MPs across party lines is a large part what we do on a daily

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basis and perhaps that work doesn't get seen often, but it is there and

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we should make sure it continues and remove the hatred language. Tom, you

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said you don't think anything will change, why not? Well, I think there

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has been a slight adjustment in relation to this campaign. I think

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we just heard from Michael Gove and Boris Johnson talking about

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statements talking about the positive impact that migration can

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have. My worry is the grass-roots activists, the sort of people who a

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couple of weeks ago in walington high street attacked the Remain

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campaigners, describing them as traitors that that feeling will be

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there for a significant number of grass-roots activists. This issue

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has become toxic and become a tool or a weapon for people to use when

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they are trying to find someone to blame that, is a very easy way out.

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Jonathan, how do you see that? I have also seen examples within my

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constituency and elsewhere of people who are supporting Leave in this

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referendum who have had property, vandalised in the wake of what

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happened and actually I think that the whole message of what we should

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be learning from the terribly sad and shocking events of Thursday is

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actually that we need to have a more positive approach as a society going

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forward and adversarial nature of politics is something in one sense

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can be a good thing if we are talking about views being challenged

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and for both sides of a debate to be properly heard and to ensure that

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anything that you say can actually stand up to the scrutiny that it

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should get, but when that becomes something which is personalised and

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aimed at a politician, aimed at a political party, aimed at

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individuals then that is something which is terribly out of order. So I

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think it really depends on what we mean by the word adversarial.

:22:54.:22:58.

Stephen Kinnock, where does it filter down from? Do MPs have a duty

:22:59.:23:05.

to not send out the sort of messages at grass-roots level can become

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played out in the way that they are? Yes, I think we all have a duty at

:23:10.:23:15.

all levels of politics to learn from this and to honour Jo's legacy and

:23:16.:23:21.

Jo's legacy was and should be that we need a new kind of politics based

:23:22.:23:27.

on unity, not on division, and on hope, not on fear. I think we have

:23:28.:23:34.

to recognise that this referendum campaign has unleashed some dark and

:23:35.:23:40.

divisive forces and when you light a touch paper, you have to expect that

:23:41.:23:44.

there will be an explosion and that is what I think we have seen in

:23:45.:23:50.

these tragic events and I think that those who are responsible for the

:23:51.:23:55.

poster that went up on Thursday need to think very, very carefully about

:23:56.:23:59.

their responsibility in that context and I hope that this is, what we

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will learn from this is that we will move forward into a kind of politics

:24:04.:24:06.

where that sort of thing never happens again. Lisa, what is your

:24:07.:24:11.

thought on that? In the Scottish referendum campaign there were some

:24:12.:24:17.

nasty trolling? I think the adversarial nature of politics that

:24:18.:24:20.

we have in the UK must be challenged to a degree because it is good to

:24:21.:24:24.

have debate. It is very important that we do debate points, but things

:24:25.:24:28.

should never become personal. I can say as someone who didn't come from

:24:29.:24:34.

a political background, who came into politics afresh last year,

:24:35.:24:39.

after the election, that I moved overnight from being a doctor who

:24:40.:24:45.

was respected and who was received positively to a politician who

:24:46.:24:54.

received messages online that were vision itrolic, who received

:24:55.:24:58.

negative E pails, etcetera from people that I don't believe would

:24:59.:25:01.

have come up to me and said that in the street but who felt able to do

:25:02.:25:05.

that because all of a sudden I was an MP. Why do you think that is? I

:25:06.:25:11.

think there is something about the amoplity of being behind a computer

:25:12.:25:15.

screen that people think they can do so. Why do you think MPs are seen in

:25:16.:25:21.

that way? I think that we have to take responsibility on many fronts

:25:22.:25:25.

in terms of MPs own behaviour over the years, but also in terms of

:25:26.:25:29.

media reporting of MPs. I don't think there is enough reporting on

:25:30.:25:34.

the very positive cross opinion heart work that's completed in

:25:35.:25:38.

Parliaments both in devolved parliaments and at the Westminster

:25:39.:25:41.

Parliament. As chair of the all-party group on disability, there

:25:42.:25:46.

is a lot of constructive cross-party working that takes place, but quite

:25:47.:25:49.

frankly, that's not what is reported in the media. I think that we need

:25:50.:25:54.

to get more of a consensus politics where things are taken forward that

:25:55.:25:59.

are best for society, that are what works policies and we do a

:26:00.:26:03.

disservice to people across the country to focus continually on

:26:04.:26:07.

adversarial and personalisation and negativity within politics.

:26:08.:26:12.

Quite a lot of what we do, especially working with MPs from

:26:13.:26:18.

other parties, is often issues in our constituencies, very worthy, but

:26:19.:26:21.

affect other parts of the country, but they are not the same as working

:26:22.:26:25.

together on aspects of the NHS or the big topics on where there are

:26:26.:26:29.

differences on how we make changes and what we believe will be better

:26:30.:26:33.

for patients and so on. So I think Lisa is right to point out that we

:26:34.:26:37.

should continue to do that work more closely together and perhaps be a

:26:38.:26:45.

bit tougher in tush pushing out that message. We have to be accountable

:26:46.:26:49.

for our words and what we say and what messages we project. It has

:26:50.:26:53.

been said so many times over the years, hasn't it? Things like Prime

:26:54.:26:56.

Minister's Questions, why does it have to be so add va carial, Tom?

:26:57.:27:02.

The chamber is designed to make it adversarial. What I hope will come

:27:03.:27:08.

out of this is perhaps a willingness to focus on the facts. I think what

:27:09.:27:13.

has been very difficult about the EU referendum campaign is the fact that

:27:14.:27:18.

there have been fiction deployed as fact. If I look at the literature

:27:19.:27:26.

that talked about the UK losing control of our Armed Forces for

:27:27.:27:30.

instance, there is material that's out there, that really doesn't

:27:31.:27:34.

reflect the reality. Both sides are saying that's a lie. When you look

:27:35.:27:40.

back it through the prism of the death of Jo and everything she stood

:27:41.:27:44.

for, do you feel ashamed that's the campaign that has been had on

:27:45.:27:47.

something so important? Well, I do. Because it hasn't actually helped

:27:48.:27:51.

inform the public. It hasn't helped people make a decision which really

:27:52.:27:54.

they have had to make in a three month period because of course, it

:27:55.:27:57.

is really only in the last three months that finally there has been

:27:58.:28:00.

the focus on what the European Union does and what it doesn't do. And

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people have been able to absorb the facts, but it is in a very limited

:28:05.:28:08.

period of time. Jonathan, are you proud of the campaign that this

:28:09.:28:15.

country has seen? Well, I think there has been fault on both sides

:28:16.:28:20.

in terms of the way that things have been said in this referendum

:28:21.:28:25.

campaign. We have had rhetoric from the Remain campaign for instance

:28:26.:28:29.

which has threatened us virtually with World War three and the end of

:28:30.:28:33.

western political civilisation as we know it. The arguments put forward

:28:34.:28:39.

on both sides, it is basically both sides have been criticised for it

:28:40.:28:43.

and it is that broad tone of politics, isn't it? And certainly

:28:44.:28:50.

from my point of view I try to put across as positive a message as I

:28:51.:28:53.

can. I believe coming from a point of view where you're campaigning to

:28:54.:28:56.

leave the European Union, that actually for me, it is important to

:28:57.:29:00.

put across a positive message of the kind of Britain that I want to see

:29:01.:29:06.

after this referendum. So I think it is vitally important that we portray

:29:07.:29:12.

a positive message as well. Of course, there will be negatives

:29:13.:29:16.

attached to staying in and of course, the Remain campaign will say

:29:17.:29:19.

there are negatives attached to leaving so we have to be able to

:29:20.:29:23.

point those things out, but the question perhaps of tone is one that

:29:24.:29:27.

is the one that should be looked at. Would it be a powerful message for

:29:28.:29:33.

MPs today to shift completely where they sit in the Commons and not be

:29:34.:29:39.

sitting in the usual spots divided by party lines? That's a nice idea.

:29:40.:29:45.

I'm looking forward to seeing my close colleagues today and I'm

:29:46.:29:48.

looking forward to sitting with them in the chamber. Does that mean

:29:49.:29:53.

staying with Labour MPs? I will be staying on the Labour side. The

:29:54.:30:00.

Labour Party lost a sister. Frankly, I had Labour MPs crying in my arms

:30:01.:30:03.

last Thursday. They need to sit together. They have lost their

:30:04.:30:06.

sister and we shouldn't be trying to try and crash in on that. There are

:30:07.:30:10.

plenty of opportunities for MPs to work together. We will be in the

:30:11.:30:17.

church afterwards. Why are you crashing in on it, one Tory MP said

:30:18.:30:21.

he will be sitting with his fellow West Yorkshire MPs? Joanna,

:30:22.:30:27.

Parliament is a family. We recognise the merits of each other, but

:30:28.:30:31.

genuinely the Labour Party, this is one the their Closest friends they

:30:32.:30:34.

have lost. You want to respect that fact that they've lost one of their

:30:35.:30:38.

closest friends. The equivalent of a sister. I cannot pretend to say I

:30:39.:30:47.

know Jo Cox. Yes, I was on a tug-of-war team raising money,

:30:48.:30:49.

Stephen has known Jo for sometime. Let's just not try and come up with

:30:50.:30:54.

something artificial for the sake of the fact that Labour have lost a

:30:55.:30:55.

great sister. I think a lot of this discussion is

:30:56.:31:05.

about tone, and I think it is right that we have a tonne of healthy

:31:06.:31:11.

scepticism, which means we have in opposition the ability to hold the

:31:12.:31:15.

government to account. What has happened in this campaign is that we

:31:16.:31:20.

have tipped over from healthy scepticism to corrosive cynicism.

:31:21.:31:26.

MPs directly accusing other MPs of lying, should that be done? The

:31:27.:31:32.

media has been involved in this and social media as well. There are

:31:33.:31:37.

certain protocols in Parliament which mean we can't do that sort of

:31:38.:31:43.

thing. We can best demonstrate this by presenting a united front, as we

:31:44.:31:47.

are doing, in wanting to see a change in the way we conduct

:31:48.:31:53.

politics. Focus on the fact that less on to make sure that the public

:31:54.:31:58.

are able to assess things in a logical fashion rather than being

:31:59.:32:02.

driven by emotion. This text says Jo Cox seems to be a lovely exception

:32:03.:32:06.

to the rule regarding politicians. People were told MPs in higher

:32:07.:32:16.

regard if more people were like her. Politicians just follow the party

:32:17.:32:20.

line and the party gets its way nine times out of ten. My thoughts are

:32:21.:32:23.

with the family. What do you think about that? I think she was

:32:24.:32:28.

obviously an exceptional MP. She was a young mother who came into

:32:29.:32:31.

politics to try to change things for her constituency and to change

:32:32.:32:37.

things across the UK. We want to encourage many more people from

:32:38.:32:41.

diverse backgrounds into politics, to encourage people with young

:32:42.:32:45.

families into politics, and, to be frank, MPs are vulnerable. We need

:32:46.:32:53.

to have much more robust health and safety policies in the constituency,

:32:54.:32:56.

at Westminster and in terms of online activities in order to

:32:57.:33:01.

protect MPs. But also we need to be able to reach out to constituents

:33:02.:33:07.

and have a balance. Yes, we need to attract many more new MPs who want

:33:08.:33:14.

to create change, who have come from different backgrounds and can bring

:33:15.:33:18.

different skills and experiences and abilities. Quite frankly, I think

:33:19.:33:21.

the system we have just now does very little to encourage those

:33:22.:33:25.

people. We really have got to take a good look at it. This should be a

:33:26.:33:30.

turning point that we should do that. You have got kids, so you are

:33:31.:33:34.

staying close to home for a while, just to reassure them. How are they

:33:35.:33:39.

reacting and how are you feeling on a personal level? How is your whole

:33:40.:33:46.

family reacting? Yes, my heart absolutely goes out to Jo Cox's

:33:47.:33:52.

family. It is unimaginable what they must be feeling, the shock and

:33:53.:33:57.

disbelief at what has happened. It is such a grave tragedy. You can't

:33:58.:34:03.

help but think there but for the grace of God go I. That is why we

:34:04.:34:09.

must look at our system. My own family, my daughter learned about

:34:10.:34:15.

this from peers, and has spoken about it. An MP died, money. What do

:34:16.:34:20.

you say in that situation and how do you reassure your children? That is

:34:21.:34:26.

a difficult situation to be in and as a society and as people in

:34:27.:34:33.

politics, we should be providing a positive role model and we should be

:34:34.:34:37.

ensuring that we move forward in a positive manner and a collaborative

:34:38.:34:42.

manner. There are many more things in politics where we can agree

:34:43.:34:48.

rather than disagree, but when debate descends into such negativity

:34:49.:34:53.

and personalisation, that has a big factor to play in the tragedy that

:34:54.:34:57.

has unfolded. Thank you for joining us. I know that some will be going

:34:58.:35:05.

to the Commons later and the church service later to remember Jo Cox.

:35:06.:35:10.

Thank you. Thomas Mair is due to appear in court this afternoon

:35:11.:35:13.

charged with the murder of Jo Cox. At an initial hearing at Westminster

:35:14.:35:17.

Magistrates Court on Saturday he refused to give his name. He said he

:35:18.:35:22.

was called death to traitors, freedom for Britain. The magistrates

:35:23.:35:26.

said he ought to be seen by a psychiatrist. After ten o'clock this

:35:27.:35:29.

morning, we will speak to more friends of Jo Cox.

:35:30.:35:32.

Still to come: An exclusive report on the hundreds of unaccompanied

:35:33.:35:35.

child asylum seekers who have gone missing after they

:35:36.:35:37.

And we'll talk to England and Wales football fans as the two home sides

:35:38.:35:43.

prepare for their final group stage matches.

:35:44.:35:54.

Now let's catch up with all the day's news with Sophie. Thank you.

:35:55.:36:02.

With just four days before the EU referendum,

:36:03.:36:04.

the former Conservative Party chairman, Lady Warsi,

:36:05.:36:06.

says she's changed her mind and will vote Remain.

:36:07.:36:08.

The peer says she made the decision

:36:09.:36:10.

after seeing a Ukip poster depicting a line of migrants, along

:36:11.:36:13.

Vote Leave says it didn't remember ever having her support.

:36:14.:36:20.

Parliament is being recalled this afternoon so that politicians can

:36:21.:36:23.

pay their respects to the murdered Labour MP Jo Cox.

:36:24.:36:25.

Parliament had been in recess in the run-up

:36:26.:36:27.

Jo Cox was killed in her constituency of Birstall

:36:28.:36:30.

A fund set up in her memory has now raised over ?800,000.

:36:31.:36:39.

We all have a duty at all levels of politics to learn from this and to

:36:40.:36:49.

honour Jo Cox's legacy. Her legacy was and it should be that we need a

:36:50.:36:55.

new kind of politics based on unity, not on division, and on hope, not on

:36:56.:36:57.

fear. A new report suggests children held

:36:58.:37:02.

in custody in England and Wales are twice as likely to have force

:37:03.:37:05.

used against them by staff The findings have been revealed

:37:06.:37:08.

by the Howard League for Penal Reform, which says

:37:09.:37:11.

a new and widespread practice has emerged of locking up children

:37:12.:37:14.

by themselves on main prison wings 40% of adults in the UK will be

:37:15.:37:16.

overweight by the year 2035, according to new research

:37:17.:37:29.

from the Obesity Health Alliance. The rising obesity levels

:37:30.:37:31.

could result in more than 7 million cases of serious

:37:32.:37:33.

illness such as diabetes, cancer The report also calls for a junk

:37:34.:37:36.

food tax and restrictions England and Wales play their final

:37:37.:37:40.

group matches at the European Wayne Rooney could be rested

:37:41.:38:03.

as Roy Hodgson is rumoured to be making up to six changes to the team

:38:04.:38:07.

that beat Wales. England only need a point to be sure

:38:08.:38:10.

of going through to the last 16. For Wales, it could be

:38:11.:38:13.

a bit more serious. They need to win to guarantee

:38:14.:38:15.

qualification. Any other result

:38:16.:38:17.

could see them go out. Hosts France finished top of group

:38:18.:38:20.

A last night after a goalless draw Both sides are through

:38:21.:38:23.

to the last 16. Albania have kept their chances

:38:24.:38:28.

of going through alive. They could end up facing

:38:29.:38:30.

the winners of group B, which includes of course

:38:31.:38:40.

England and Wales. With just a week to go

:38:41.:38:42.

to the start of Wimbledon, Andy Murray has won a record fifth

:38:43.:38:44.

title at Queen's. He came from a set down

:38:45.:38:47.

to beat Milos Raonic. And Dustin Johnson is

:38:48.:38:50.

the new US Open champion. But he had to survive

:38:51.:38:53.

a controversial decision to penalise him one shot

:38:54.:38:58.

when his ball moved as he prepared That is all the sport from Paris.

:38:59.:39:02.

Back to you. Thank you. Figures obtained by this programme

:39:03.:39:11.

show hundreds of migrant children have disappeared after arriving

:39:12.:39:14.

in the UK on their own On average, at least eight children

:39:15.:39:16.

went missing from local authority Many are feared to have been

:39:17.:39:20.

trafficked and exploited Asian Network's Divya Talwar

:39:21.:39:24.

has the full report. We have hundreds of missing migrant

:39:25.:39:40.

children and nobody knows where they are. Many of them are presumed to

:39:41.:39:46.

have been trafficked. She told me I was lucky she hadn't sent me for

:39:47.:39:48.

prostitution. If a young person decides that they

:39:49.:39:59.

are going to disappear, it is very difficult for us to keep track of

:40:00.:40:01.

them. Some people because they come and

:40:02.:40:13.

they are moved into a different area... The young girls coming to

:40:14.:40:17.

this youth group in London are all from different countries and they

:40:18.:40:19.

speak different languages, but they have found a lot in common. Each of

:40:20.:40:24.

them was lied to and tricked into coming to Britain, with the same

:40:25.:40:28.

promise of a better life here. All of the young girls in there were

:40:29.:40:33.

trafficked into the UK. Some of them were forced into prostitution,

:40:34.:40:36.

others were made to work in nail bars and restaurants and private

:40:37.:40:40.

homes. One of them showed me a big scar on her right arm where she said

:40:41.:40:45.

she was beaten with a belt by his slave master. I wasn't allowed to go

:40:46.:40:50.

out. The only time I went out was to take the thin from the house to the

:40:51.:41:01.

bin outside. -- the litter bin. Whatever she told me to do, I had to

:41:02.:41:06.

do and whatever she told me to say, I had to say. Tina was 14 when she

:41:07.:41:10.

was trafficked into the UK from Nigeria. She was taken straight to a

:41:11.:41:15.

woman's house, who she was told to call auntie. She thought she was

:41:16.:41:18.

going to school here but instead she was enslaved in the house. I was a

:41:19.:41:24.

slave because I had to do things. An unpaid job. On top of that I was

:41:25.:41:30.

limited with the things that I felt I was entitled to. I wasn't allowed

:41:31.:41:35.

to have a shower for more than five minutes. I was not allowed to have a

:41:36.:41:43.

light in my room. There was a tiny TV in my room and I wasn't allowed

:41:44.:41:47.

to put that on. I couldn't put anything on Alessi told me to. I

:41:48.:41:52.

tried to talk to her again and she said I was lucky she hadn't sent me

:41:53.:41:57.

for prostitution. Was there any physical abuse? She was very

:41:58.:42:01.

violent. One day she told me to go and clean the house. She woke me up

:42:02.:42:05.

at six o'clock in the morning. Normally that is what she did. She

:42:06.:42:11.

woke me up and told me to go outside, to clean up, and I wasn't

:42:12.:42:15.

feeling well, so I said to her eye wasn't feeling well. She said I

:42:16.:42:22.

didn't pay ?2000 for you to come and sleep. I want you to get up and

:42:23.:42:26.

clean the house. I was cleaning and I think I dropped something. I was

:42:27.:42:35.

wearing pyjamas. She said because I didn't want to clean the house, I

:42:36.:42:38.

should get out of the house, and that day it was winter and it was

:42:39.:42:42.

snowing. She threw me out into the garden. I didn't have any shoes on.

:42:43.:42:47.

It was snowing everywhere. She didn't want me to come back in. She

:42:48.:42:52.

locked the doors and I had to stay in the garden. That was nine o'clock

:42:53.:42:58.

in the morning. Until the next day I had to stay outside. Last year

:42:59.:43:04.

around 3000 unaccompanied asylum seeking children arrived in the UK.

:43:05.:43:11.

Some may have been fleeing war and persecution. Others found in the

:43:12.:43:15.

back of lorries after being trafficked into the country. Or they

:43:16.:43:18.

may have been discovered working illegally. If they are under 18 they

:43:19.:43:21.

are typically given the right to stay in the UK until they are adults

:43:22.:43:25.

and placed in the care of the local authority. Young people here are all

:43:26.:43:34.

identified as child trafficking victims and were referred to the

:43:35.:43:37.

charity. The weekly youth group tried to help the children rebuild

:43:38.:43:41.

their lives, but there have been young people that Debbie and her

:43:42.:43:47.

team have struggled to help. One of them was Ang, a Vietnamese boy she

:43:48.:43:59.

was working with. When he arrived here, he was put into a cannabis

:44:00.:44:04.

factory in a house. He was made to grow cannabis and he was locked in

:44:05.:44:10.

there. He was also sexually abused by the same men. So he had a lot

:44:11.:44:14.

going on and he was obviously very scared. Occasionally many days would

:44:15.:44:21.

go past when he didn't see anybody. It was after a few months of being

:44:22.:44:27.

in that house that it was raided by police. They came in and he couldn't

:44:28.:44:30.

speak English and he couldn't speak to them. He was arrested. He was

:44:31.:44:36.

taken to the police station, but then they understood that he was 14

:44:37.:44:40.

and recognised that he was a victim of trafficking, so he was taken to

:44:41.:44:44.

social services and put into care. And then he was rebuilding his life?

:44:45.:44:50.

What happened to him? He was in school, he was in foster care, he

:44:51.:44:54.

was engaged in English classes and football. He would come to the youth

:44:55.:44:57.

group and he was growing in confidence and meeting other young

:44:58.:45:03.

people. Then he just went missing. Obviously it was a shock for

:45:04.:45:07.

everybody and we were very concerned. Unfortunately there are

:45:08.:45:10.

many cases of young people that go missing and are not discovered

:45:11.:45:11.

again. When migrant children go missing

:45:12.:45:38.

there is often an acceptance that's what they do. They have gone back to

:45:39.:45:41.

their family or something. A real lack of understanding about the

:45:42.:45:45.

risks of exploitation and I think there would be a national outcry if

:45:46.:45:49.

this was the same number of British born children going missing from

:45:50.:45:53.

carement we're in a situation now where we have hundreds of missing

:45:54.:45:55.

migrant children and no one knows where they are. They are presumed,

:45:56.:45:59.

many of them, to have been trafficked, but very little is being

:46:00.:46:04.

done. It is completely unacceptable. Kent County Council is looking after

:46:05.:46:08.

more unaccompanied children than any other local authority. It saw the

:46:09.:46:12.

most go missing. Last year it was around four a week.

:46:13.:46:15.

How can you stop these young people going missing from your care? I

:46:16.:46:20.

think it is very difficult and I don't think we could ever put our

:46:21.:46:24.

hand on our heart and say we could totally stop young children going

:46:25.:46:27.

missing from our care. We do everything we can to safeguard these

:46:28.:46:31.

children, to prothebgt these children, we put them with good

:46:32.:46:35.

foster carers, we give them social workers, we support them in every

:46:36.:46:39.

way we can, but we can't put them under lock and key. They are not in

:46:40.:46:43.

secure accommodation. So we just have to work as closely with them as

:46:44.:46:49.

we can, but if a young person decides at 10pm that they are going

:46:50.:46:54.

to disappear and they don't let their foster carer know or their

:46:55.:47:00.

care worker know and they just slip out, it is difficult for us to keep

:47:01.:47:05.

a track on them. Often it is a sign they've been trafficked. It could be

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sometimes they may go back to their traffickers because they have a debt

:47:13.:47:16.

to pay or they are worried about the threats back home and they have the

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hope if I just pay this off, I will be free. If they are this care, it

:47:20.:47:24.

is uncertain and am I going to be isn't back home? Am I going to be in

:47:25.:47:30.

trouble? When you found out he gone missing because he was coming to

:47:31.:47:34.

this youth group once a week, what were your fear as soon as He maybe

:47:35.:47:41.

harmed. That we knew that most likely, he was taken back and he was

:47:42.:47:45.

trafficked again. Before he went missing he was placed in a home, not

:47:46.:47:49.

too far from where he was found. Refugee charities are concerned that

:47:50.:47:54.

trafficked children aren't always being placed in suitable

:47:55.:47:56.

accommodation, but there is worries the authorities don't always believe

:47:57.:48:00.

or recognise victims in the first place. Tina was kept as a Standard

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Life for yo years before she ran away, but she says she didn't find

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anyone to help her. The social worker, who I was talking to, told

:48:11.:48:17.

me that I needed to go back to my aunt's house. I said to him, "I

:48:18.:48:24.

can't go back because this lady is not OK in her head. I think she will

:48:25.:48:28.

do something to me." They said, no, she is your aunt. You have been here

:48:29.:48:33.

for a very long time, you can't just runaway from her house. And on top

:48:34.:48:38.

of that, it was a language barrier so I couldn't really explain to them

:48:39.:48:44.

like what has been happening. I was so depressed I wanted to kill myself

:48:45.:48:51.

because I thought no one is actually understanding what I'm saying. Tina

:48:52.:48:56.

was sent back to her auntie. A few months later she managed to escape

:48:57.:48:59.

again and this time she was identified as a trafficked child.

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She is now 18 and has been granted asylum here. Last year, the

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Government piloted a scheme to give trafficked children an independent

:49:10.:49:12.

adult add vow account to try and prevent young people from returning

:49:13.:49:15.

to their traffickers. Charities want the scheme implemented as growing

:49:16.:49:18.

numbers of children are making it to the UK on their own.

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Little is known about what happens to those that do go off the radar.

:49:26.:49:31.

When Angn went missing last year, a few months later the authorities

:49:32.:49:34.

found out what happened to him. He was walking alongside of the road

:49:35.:49:38.

and a car pulled up beside him and they actually took him by force. He

:49:39.:49:42.

felt he no other choice and he was taken back into the same situation,

:49:43.:49:46.

back into a cannabis factory. He was identified because the police had a

:49:47.:49:51.

notification about another cannabis house. They weren't aware it was

:49:52.:49:54.

going to be him. But when they went in, he was found in there and he was

:49:55.:49:57.

brought back to the social worker and back to the group. Now it has

:49:58.:50:01.

been a year later and he has not gone missing and he did talk to the

:50:02.:50:05.

police, but there hasn't been any prosecution yet.

:50:06.:50:10.

Some of the hundreds of children still missing maybe found years

:50:11.:50:16.

later, be exploited by criminal gangs. In many of the cases, the

:50:17.:50:18.

child may never show up again. "The Government will later this year

:50:19.:50:22.

publish a new missing strategy and implementation plan including

:50:23.:50:27.

actions in relation to reducing children going missing from care

:50:28.:50:30.

and reducing the harm We will bring you more reaction

:50:31.:50:32.

later in the programme. Coming up: As a senior Conservative

:50:33.:50:41.

says she's changed her mind about how to vote in the EU

:50:42.:50:43.

referendum, we'll get the latest And by the way, the latest in that

:50:44.:50:46.

campaigning includes the English Premier League coming

:50:47.:50:54.

out in favour of Britain remaining But Leave say EU membership means

:50:55.:50:57.

it is harder to sign footballers But away from the politics and back

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on the pitch, at the Euros, England take on Slovakia and Wales

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face Russia in the last If both teams win, England will top

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Group B and Wales will come second. Let's talk now to some English

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and Welsh fans in France Craig Richardson and Ned Ozkasim

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are England fans, and Ffion Owen Thank you very much for joining us.

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Qualifying for the tournament was a pretty good achievement and facing

:51:34.:51:38.

the prospect of going into the knock-out stages of the, only the

:51:39.:51:41.

second time ever for Wales to do that. How are you feeling?

:51:42.:51:47.

Yeah, a mixture of excitement and nerves starting to kick in now, but

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yeah, we are looking forward to the game tonight and really, really

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crossing everything that we'll get what we want and supersede to the

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last 16. Russia beat Wales in the euro 2004 play-offs. Is there some

:52:00.:52:08.

history there? Yeah, that I was only about ten. That was my first tragic

:52:09.:52:12.

Wales moment. I think a lot of Welsh fans think it is revenge time.

:52:13.:52:17.

Tonight is the night hopefully! Steve, she has got her flag, so have

:52:18.:52:22.

you, do you think the side will do you proud tonight? Yeah, I think so.

:52:23.:52:27.

I think we have come a long way and despite the below par performance

:52:28.:52:31.

against England, this squad are good enough to beat the Russian side. I

:52:32.:52:35.

don't think they are that good. They are a bit ponderous. I think we

:52:36.:52:39.

could get easily get a result. It doesn't mean I'm not nervous mind

:52:40.:52:44.

because having watched Wales since 1991, I have seen plenty of

:52:45.:52:51.

heartbreak. Yeah, still a little bit nervous. Are you worried about any

:52:52.:52:59.

trouble with the Russian fans? Yeah. In the back of my mind there is

:53:00.:53:04.

that. However, having been out in Toulouse for the last 24 hours, it

:53:05.:53:08.

doesn't seem to be too much nerves within the city. People people to be

:53:09.:53:12.

relatively happy mixingment there were report from a few of my

:53:13.:53:16.

friends, they bumped in a few Russian and they have been mixing

:53:17.:53:20.

fine with them. I think with a bit of luck the hooligan element has

:53:21.:53:23.

perhaps gone home now, hopefully. So it is in the back of my mind, but I

:53:24.:53:28.

don't think we're going to see any issues.

:53:29.:53:31.

Ned, you're going to the England match tonight, what do you want to

:53:32.:53:36.

see in the starting line-up? The two scorers in the match against Wales,

:53:37.:53:40.

weren't in the starting line-up, they came on as subs? This is great

:53:41.:53:45.

opportunity for Roy Hodgson to freshen the team up. We saw the

:53:46.:53:48.

impact the substitutes had in the last game. The likes of Vardy and

:53:49.:53:52.

Sturridge, I'm sure they will get their chance tonight and maybe a few

:53:53.:53:55.

other squad members. Do you want them to be in the starting line-up?

:53:56.:53:59.

They are pushing for it and they have shown what they can do on the

:54:00.:54:04.

pitch. In the first-half against Wales, England didn't really perform

:54:05.:54:08.

to their ability. England need a draw to go through, a win to go top.

:54:09.:54:17.

How important is it they go top? If we go top, we play in Paris on

:54:18.:54:21.

Friday. That's a great location and you will get more tickets for the

:54:22.:54:25.

game in Paris as well. England, Craig, do you want Roy Hodgson to

:54:26.:54:32.

take a risk with the line-up tonight as Ned is talking about? I would

:54:33.:54:41.

like Sturridge or Vardy to start. Lallana needs to remain on the

:54:42.:54:45.

bench. You're not going to the match, are you, you have been

:54:46.:54:48.

concerned about trouble? Yeah, I mean, I am an ex-pat living in

:54:49.:54:53.

Marseille. So we have the game. I was very much at the fore front of

:54:54.:54:58.

all the chaos that was going on down here in the old port. It wasn't a

:54:59.:55:02.

great scene and considering that we have been living here for a few

:55:03.:55:05.

years now, it was quite troublesome to see. I am adjust concerned about

:55:06.:55:13.

the security and visiting the bars around France really. A word on the

:55:14.:55:19.

line-up for the Welsh side. What do you think about the Welsh side? Oh

:55:20.:55:23.

yeah, they have all been good obviously. Hopefully we will see

:55:24.:55:28.

Jonathan Williams, I would like him to strt and maybe Collins and maybe

:55:29.:55:35.

a couple of tweaks, but Coleman has been all right so far so we will put

:55:36.:55:40.

our faith in his line-up tonight. Give us your prediction for the

:55:41.:55:45.

result? Oh, I really, as Steve was saying, I really hope we can win and

:55:46.:55:48.

I think we've got what it takes to win. So I hope it could be maybe 2-0

:55:49.:55:54.

win, maybe hopefully, but yeah, crossed fingers. Steve what do you

:55:55.:56:01.

think? I would take 1-1 right now, but maybe a 1-0 win. Maybe a 1-0

:56:02.:56:08.

win. Ned? 2-0. Craig? I think it will be a 2-1 England tonight. All

:56:09.:56:13.

right. Let's see who is right. We're crossing our fingers for erchlt

:56:14.:56:15.

thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. Enjoy the games. Thank

:56:16.:56:17.

you very much. Thanks. Let's get the latest

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weather update with Carol. The weather is looking unsettled at

:56:21.:56:29.

the moment. We have got quite a bit of rain, but some of us are seeing

:56:30.:56:35.

sunshine. A beautiful picture sent in by one of our Weather Watchers

:56:36.:56:39.

this morning. Some lovely blue skies. If you look at this one,

:56:40.:56:44.

again sent in by one of our BBC Weather Watchers, here it has been

:56:45.:56:47.

raining and there is quite a bit of rarn around this morning. You can

:56:48.:56:51.

see it on the radar picture. Moving across England and Wales,

:56:52.:56:54.

particularly the southern half, some of that is heavy as you can see,

:56:55.:56:58.

denoted by the light greens, but we have got a few showers across parts

:56:59.:57:01.

of Scotland and Northern Ireland. With rain continuing to move away

:57:02.:57:04.

from Shetland. Through the morning, off goes that rain. The other thing

:57:05.:57:08.

you will notice is the breeze will tend to ease a touch as well. Behind

:57:09.:57:12.

it, there will be a lot of dry weather, but not necessarily bone

:57:13.:57:15.

dry, but compared to this morning across Wales and the south-west, we

:57:16.:57:19.

are looking at a cloudy afternoon with some brighter breaks and it is

:57:20.:57:23.

the same across southern counties as well, as temperatures rise,

:57:24.:57:26.

especially if there is any sunshine that could spark off a few showers

:57:27.:57:30.

which could prove to be thunderiment for Northern England sh and Northern

:57:31.:57:32.

Ireland and Scotland, it is a mixture of bright spells, sunshine

:57:33.:57:37.

and a few showers. Again, behind the band of rain clearing Shetland what

:57:38.:57:40.

you will find is there will be a lot of cloud and still the odd shower

:57:41.:57:45.

here and there. Then as we head on through the evening and overnight

:57:46.:57:47.

period, we will be left with a few showers, but there will be a lot of

:57:48.:57:50.

dry weather around. There will be clear skies too. But by the end of

:57:51.:57:54.

the night, we will have further showers coming in particularly

:57:55.:57:57.

across northern and Western Scotland and Northern Ireland. This is our

:57:58.:58:01.

temperature range, nine to 15 Celsius. Not a particularly cold

:58:02.:58:05.

night, but it will be a wee bit cooler for some of us than the night

:58:06.:58:08.

that's just gone. So tomorrow, we start off with a lot of dry weather.

:58:09.:58:11.

Again variable amounts of cloud. Some sunny spells. Just the odd

:58:12.:58:15.

showerment more showers and breezier conditions across Northern Ireland

:58:16.:58:18.

and also Western Scotland. But we will have more rain coming in across

:58:19.:58:22.

the Isles of Scilly, in through Cornwall and Devon and also the

:58:23.:58:26.

Channel Islands. Our temperatures ranging from about 13 Celsius in the

:58:27.:58:30.

north to a high of 21 Celsius as we push down towards the south. Moving

:58:31.:58:34.

from Tuesday into Wednesday, things start to change a little bit in the

:58:35.:58:38.

feel of the weather because we will start to pull up some humid air from

:58:39.:58:42.

France particularly so across the south-eastern quarter of the

:58:43.:58:46.

country. Now what that might do is spark off some thunderstorms in the

:58:47.:58:50.

South East. It is something to be aware of. Glastonbury, of course,

:58:51.:58:54.

starts on Wednesday and the forecast for Glastonbury is one of the

:58:55.:58:57.

sunshine and showers. However, it is worth noting that we have seen a lot

:58:58.:59:01.

of rain recently in this part of the world so you might find there is

:59:02.:59:06.

still a lot of mud around. It is probably worth taking your wellies.

:59:07.:59:11.

Bright spells, some sunny spells and showers, but feeling muggy in the

:59:12.:59:13.

far south-east. Parliament is recalled to pay

:59:14.:59:30.

tribute to the Labour MP, Jo Cox, but will her death have a lasting

:59:31.:59:34.

effect on British politics? It is good to have debate. It is very

:59:35.:59:38.

important that we do debate points, but things should never become

:59:39.:59:39.

personal. And paying an EU referendum is back

:59:40.:59:58.

up to speed following the death of Jo Cox. Nigel Farage defends his

:59:59.:00:05.

poster, saying the only thing wrong with it was the unfortunate timing

:00:06.:00:10.

ahead of the murder of Jo Cox. Also on the programme: The child asylum

:00:11.:00:16.

seekers who have gone missing after arriving in the UK. Nobody knows

:00:17.:00:20.

where they are. They are presumed to have been trafficked but very little

:00:21.:00:24.

is being done and it is not acceptable. A year after 38 tourists

:00:25.:00:29.

were killed in a terrorist attack in Tunisia, one survivor makes the

:00:30.:00:34.

journey back. Just being here now, I can feel my heart in my mouth again,

:00:35.:00:38.

just how I felt. Sheer panic, white panic. Both England and Wales play

:00:39.:00:46.

their final games of the group stages here in France tonight, with

:00:47.:00:50.

qualification for the knockout stages at stake. Good morning. Let's

:00:51.:01:02.

catch up with the day's news with Sophie in the BBC newsroom. Thank

:01:03.:01:04.

you. With just four days

:01:05.:01:09.

before the EU referendum, the former Conservative Party

:01:10.:01:11.

chairman, Lady Warsi, says she's changed her mind

:01:12.:01:12.

and will vote Remain. The

:01:13.:01:14.

peer says she made the decision after seeing a Ukip poster depicting

:01:15.:01:17.

a line of migrants, along Vote Leave says it didn't remember

:01:18.:01:19.

ever having her support. the English Premier League has come

:01:20.:01:25.

out in favour of the UK remaining The motion was supported by all 20

:01:26.:01:31.

of the league's football clubs. Leave campaigners said EU membership

:01:32.:01:34.

reduced opportunities The group that represents

:01:35.:01:36.

the British car industry, which employs hundreds

:01:37.:01:41.

of thousands of people, has said it's in favour of the UK

:01:42.:01:45.

remaining in the European Union. The Society of Motor Manufacturers

:01:46.:01:48.

and Traders said access to the single market,

:01:49.:01:51.

and free movement of labour, But the Leave campaign say a vote

:01:52.:01:53.

for Brexit could provide Parliament is being recalled this

:01:54.:01:57.

afternoon so that politicians can pay their respects to the murdered

:01:58.:02:05.

Labour MP Jo Cox. Parliament had been

:02:06.:02:07.

in recess in the run-up Jo Cox was killed in her

:02:08.:02:09.

constituency of Birstall A fund set up in her memory has now

:02:10.:02:12.

raised over ?800,000. 52-year-old Thomas Mair has been

:02:13.:02:18.

charged with her murder and is due back

:02:19.:02:24.

in court later today. Three 12-year-old girls from Salford

:02:25.:02:27.

who became seriously ill after taking ecstasy,

:02:28.:02:29.

are now said to be Greater Manchester Police say a man

:02:30.:02:31.

and a woman have been arrested. It is thought the girls

:02:32.:02:36.

are among the youngest people in the UK to have fallen ill

:02:37.:02:38.

after taking the drug. Dave Guest is following

:02:39.:02:41.

the story for us. It seems they have taken an ecstasy

:02:42.:02:51.

tablet known as a teddy tablet. It appeared that was taken mixed into a

:02:52.:02:56.

soft drink. One of the questions the police will be wanting to answer is

:02:57.:02:59.

whether the girls were fully aware the tablet had been crashed into the

:03:00.:03:05.

soft drink or was it given to them unknowingly. Overnight they arrested

:03:06.:03:10.

a man and a woman on suspicion of possessing a class A drug and these

:03:11.:03:14.

questions will be put to them. A new report suggests children held

:03:15.:03:18.

in custody in England and Wales are twice as likely to have force

:03:19.:03:21.

used against them by staff The findings have been revealed

:03:22.:03:24.

by the Howard League for Penal Reform, which says

:03:25.:03:28.

a new and widespread practice has emerged of locking up children

:03:29.:03:30.

by themselves on main prison wings And Joanna will be discussing this

:03:31.:03:33.

story just after 10.30. 40% of adults in the UK will be

:03:34.:03:37.

overweight by the year 2035, according to new research

:03:38.:03:41.

from the Obesity Health Alliance. The rising obesity levels

:03:42.:03:44.

could result in more than 7 million cases of serious

:03:45.:03:47.

illness such as diabetes, cancer The report also calls for a junk

:03:48.:03:51.

food tax and restrictions This problem isn't going to go away.

:03:52.:04:06.

It is going to get worse. Those figures represent a massive burden

:04:07.:04:10.

on the NHS and public health and the health of future generations. We

:04:11.:04:14.

hope this will help them make good on their promise for a game changing

:04:15.:04:16.

children's obesity strategy. In the next few minutes we will talk

:04:17.:04:27.

to friends of the murdered MP Jo Cox, and we have been asking this

:04:28.:04:30.

morning whether her death will have any effect on changing British

:04:31.:04:34.

politics. Lots of you have been getting in touch. David says, if

:04:35.:04:38.

anyone thinks the behaviour of MPs will change, they are deluded. Just

:04:39.:04:43.

watch PMQs and you will see them acting like overgrown

:04:44.:04:47.

schoolchildren. Kath says, it amazes me and are surprised by the

:04:48.:04:50.

disrespect they receive from the public when their behaviour during

:04:51.:05:03.

PMQs is so appalling. Week after week we see them doing, shouting,

:05:04.:05:06.

hissing and interrupting each other. It is a game of bullies. For those

:05:07.:05:08.

of us genuinely interested in the question and the answer, they show

:05:09.:05:10.

utter disrespect. They think shouting down or humiliating an

:05:11.:05:13.

opponent is a victory. And Joe says Jo Cox was a rare breed of

:05:14.:05:16.

politician who acted for an on behalf of the people and sadly not

:05:17.:05:21.

enough of her existing British politics.

:05:22.:05:25.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:05:26.:05:27.

Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:05:28.:05:30.

Yes, it's crunch time for two of the home nations

:05:31.:05:38.

Wales and England play their final group B matches tonight.

:05:39.:05:46.

There are lots of permutations but put simply, England only need

:05:47.:05:49.

a point to be sure of going through, while Wales need a win

:05:50.:05:52.

After waiting 58 years for a major tournament of football,

:05:53.:06:02.

Welsh fans are desperate not to leave just yet.

:06:03.:06:05.

To lose in Toulouse today would be the end.

:06:06.:06:08.

Beat or maybe just draw with Russia, and it's onto the next round.

:06:09.:06:11.

It would be nice to go out with a bang and maybe try and score

:06:12.:06:15.

a few more goals and maybe try and change tactics a little bit.

:06:16.:06:18.

We have done so well even getting here

:06:19.:06:22.

If they win they could have a chance of going through.

:06:23.:06:28.

The results elsewhere could decide both teams' fates.

:06:29.:06:35.

If other teams lose around us, and we end up losing,

:06:36.:06:38.

There are so many different scenarios.

:06:39.:06:40.

If you stop and ponder and worry about that too much, then

:06:41.:06:43.

For England the game against Slovakia is more

:06:44.:06:47.

about working out who should play up front.

:06:48.:06:52.

And who is England's best goal threat? Jamie Vardy is looking to

:06:53.:06:59.

force his way in and something Harry Kane is looking tired.

:07:00.:07:03.

The man who used to do that job is enjoying his

:07:04.:07:05.

We know we've got good quality players who can score goals and it's

:07:06.:07:10.

important that we try and give them the chances to give them

:07:11.:07:13.

Welsh fans will fill this stadium with sound in the hope this

:07:14.:07:17.

isn't their swansong and Toulouse isn't journey's end.

:07:18.:07:19.

A week to go until the start of Wimbledon and Andy Murray has

:07:20.:07:34.

made the perfect preparation, winning the title at Queen's Club

:07:35.:07:37.

He beat the Canadian Milos Raonic in the final, despite

:07:38.:07:40.

He came back to win 6-3 in the decider.

:07:41.:07:47.

He gave his new coach Ivan Lendl a winning start.

:07:48.:07:54.

American Dustin Johnson overcame some final round controversy

:07:55.:07:56.

to clinch his maiden major title at the US Open.

:07:57.:07:59.

There was confusion over whether Johnson would get a penalty

:08:00.:08:01.

when his ball moved as he prepared to putt on the 5th green.

:08:02.:08:04.

A decision wasn't made until after play had finished,

:08:05.:08:06.

meaning plenty of uncertainty for Johnson and the chasing pack.

:08:07.:08:09.

He held his nerve though to win by three strokes,

:08:10.:08:11.

ahead of a group of players including Ireland's Shane Lowry.

:08:12.:08:25.

And last night in the Euros, France finished top of group

:08:26.:08:27.

The match was notable for a burst ball which doesn't happen too often.

:08:28.:08:33.

Then there was the matter of the Swiss shirts,

:08:34.:08:36.

Arsenal's new signing Granit Xhaka went through three of them!

:08:37.:08:44.

Barely any of the players managed to keep them intact. Maybe a flimsy

:08:45.:08:51.

design? Not sure! Thank you. Baroness Warsi has criticised the

:08:52.:09:08.

reaction to her decision to join the Remain campaign. Norman is with us.

:09:09.:09:16.

What has been happening? There has been blowback against Baroness Warsi

:09:17.:09:19.

following her decision to leave the Leave campaign. One tweet here. The

:09:20.:09:23.

vile reaction of people unhappy with my decision to leave Leave, politics

:09:24.:09:29.

of hate bus stop. Unite against hate. That follows the decision to

:09:30.:09:36.

quit the Leave campaign because of what she claimed was a xenophobic

:09:37.:09:40.

tone around their campaigning on immigration. She accused them of

:09:41.:09:45.

nudge nudge wink wink xenophobic approach. She was incensed by that

:09:46.:09:50.

hugely controversial breaking point poster that Nigel Farage unveiled

:09:51.:09:54.

last week, the one with the snaking line of migrants trying to get into

:09:55.:09:59.

southern Europe. She criticised more than that. She also criticised

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Michael Gove foretelling what he said were complete lies about the

:10:03.:10:05.

imminent accessing of Turkey into the EU. She was on the Today

:10:06.:10:13.

programme this morning and she said she had been consistently trying to

:10:14.:10:18.

get the Brexit campaign to adopt a more optimistic, positive, inclusive

:10:19.:10:24.

approach. Listen to her now. How is that poster even defensible? What is

:10:25.:10:29.

it suggesting? The fact that it is perpetuating a set of lies about who

:10:30.:10:32.

those people are and where they are going, suggesting they are coming to

:10:33.:10:36.

the United Kingdom. This kind of nudge nudge wink wink xenophobic

:10:37.:10:41.

racist campaign may be politically savvy or politically useful in the

:10:42.:10:45.

short-term, but it causes long-term to communities. It is why even

:10:46.:10:51.

during the mayoral campaign I called out my own side, saying this kind of

:10:52.:10:56.

divisive, toxic politics in Britain must no longer be allowed to be

:10:57.:11:01.

successful. Why is it that people like me who are instinctively

:11:02.:11:04.

Eurosceptic and feel the EU needs reform and wants to rebalance our

:11:05.:11:08.

relationship with Europe are feeling that we have got to leave Leave?

:11:09.:11:13.

Because day after day we are hearing the refugees are coming, the rapists

:11:14.:11:19.

are coming, the Turks are coming. What is going on here? That poster

:11:20.:11:25.

has really alarmed the official Leave campaign. I think they're

:11:26.:11:31.

great fear, bluntly, is contamination from Nigel Farage and

:11:32.:11:37.

Ukip. Many in the official Leave campaign find him toxic and their

:11:38.:11:40.

fear is he will drive away voters. His abrasive and famine treat --

:11:41.:11:46.

inflammatory approach to immigration. They would like to

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bundle him into a white van and sent him to lands end and make sure he

:11:52.:11:53.

doesn't appear for the remaining few days of the campaign. It was

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striking over the weekend and this morning when you listen to official

:11:59.:12:03.

Leave campaigners, they are desperately trying to push Nigel

:12:04.:12:08.

Farage away and to condemn that poster. Listen. That poster does not

:12:09.:12:14.

speak for Vote Leave, the official campaign. That is not the language

:12:15.:12:18.

we choose. I will argue in favour controlling immigration are based on

:12:19.:12:21.

the consent of the voters and the ability to plan public services.

:12:22.:12:28.

When I saw that poster, I shuddered. I thought it was the wrong thing to

:12:29.:12:33.

do. I do not approve of a poster that links Syrian refugees to a

:12:34.:12:37.

debate about see movement within the European Union, that is absolutely

:12:38.:12:42.

clear. -- free movement within the EU. Nigel Farage has been defending

:12:43.:12:47.

the poster, saying it is one of half a dozen that his party has put out.

:12:48.:12:52.

He said the only thing wrong about it was the timing of it, just a

:12:53.:12:55.

couple of hours before the murder of Jo Cox. This is what he said. I

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could not help the fact that we released that poster and within a

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couple of hours there was that tragic murder.

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I am sorry for the timing of this, of course I am.

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What the poster represented was the Schengen area

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and Angela Merkel's call for unlimited numbers of people

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to come, literally breaking the Schengen zone apart,

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and the slogan was the EU is failing us all.

:13:25.:13:26.

There was nothing wrong with the poster but the timing

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You are talking about Baroness Warsi and the upset she has had. Some

:13:30.:13:39.

tweet here. The usual whispering campaign against Baroness Warsi when

:13:40.:13:43.

she does something anti-government. And this one, the abuse she is

:13:44.:13:49.

receiving is disgusting. I imagine Baroness Warsi will think those

:13:50.:13:53.

tweets underline her case. She has been sounding the alarm bell about

:13:54.:13:57.

the tone of some of the campaigning around the Leave side for some time.

:13:58.:14:02.

She signed a letter with Shami Chakrabarti of Liberty and Baroness

:14:03.:14:06.

Lawrence as well, Stephen Lawrence's mother. That was when Nigel Farage

:14:07.:14:11.

came out with the comments about Cologne and the danger of sex

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attacks in the UK and as we vote for Brexit. She has been warning about

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this for some time. -- unless we vote for Brexit. It has been neck

:14:26.:14:29.

and neck for the last few days, but the problem with the Leave campaign

:14:30.:14:33.

is their trump card becomes their Achilles heel. Immigration has

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driven their campaign and the real fear is that the tone becomes marked

:14:38.:14:42.

by Nigel Farage's approach and becomes seen as ugly and

:14:43.:14:47.

unacceptable and that drains support from them from more middle ground

:14:48.:14:51.

voters. In a funny way, although immigration is their key winning

:14:52.:14:55.

point, it can also be their key losing point. Thank you. Still to

:14:56.:15:03.

come: One-man's journey of healing. Back to the scene in Tunisia that

:15:04.:15:07.

changed his life for ever. MPs will return to Parliament today.

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Since her killing on Thursday, there intrn repeated calls for her legacy

:15:19.:15:22.

to be an end to the nasty trible element of British politics.

:15:23.:15:28.

I hope the way we conduct politics can inspire people, can put people

:15:29.:15:33.

off, can lead to a poisoned environment and I think the way poll

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sticks is conducted in this country is poisonous. I think the British

:15:39.:15:43.

public are wonderful, they are decent, the way we behave is not

:15:44.:15:46.

decent. There is hate. There is poison. So where we see hatred,

:15:47.:15:52.

where we find division, where we see intolerance, we must drive it out of

:15:53.:15:56.

the our politics and out of our public life and out of our

:15:57.:16:01.

communities and if we truly want to honour Jo, then what we should do is

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recognise that her values, service, community, tolerance, the values she

:16:07.:16:11.

lived by and worked by, those are the values that we need to redouble

:16:12.:16:15.

in our national life in the months and in the years to come. In her

:16:16.:16:20.

memory we will not allow those people who spread hatred and poison

:16:21.:16:24.

to divide our society, we will strengthen our democracy, strengthen

:16:25.:16:28.

our free speech. We should recognise that we've drifted into a situation

:16:29.:16:33.

where it is almost become accepted that MPs are the subject of venom

:16:34.:16:40.

and politician has become a term of abuse and the debate has become so

:16:41.:16:47.

toxic. She gave a voice to those whose cry for help she felt was not

:16:48.:16:51.

being heard. It changed attitudes and I know it contributed to a

:16:52.:16:57.

change in policy. When Jo would get abuse on Facebook or Twitter, we

:16:58.:17:02.

would talk. And sometimes cry together. But she would still focus

:17:03.:17:07.

on the positive and talk about the silent majority who didn't always

:17:08.:17:13.

shout the loudest. But over the past 48 hours people have not been

:17:14.:17:19.

silent. They have been vocal and passionate and have spoken from the

:17:20.:17:24.

heart with genuine owe motion and no hidden agendas. Jo would have loved

:17:25.:17:32.

it. Well, that was her sister with that

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incredible tribute to Jo. We can speak to three people

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who knew Jo at different and friend who co-founded the Jo Cox

:17:46.:17:48.

Fund. Tim was with Brendan Cox on Thursday

:17:49.:17:52.

when he received the call telling him his wife had been

:17:53.:17:55.

stabbed and shot in her Heidi Alexander, Labour MP,

:17:56.:17:58.

first met Jo when she was in the opposition

:17:59.:18:01.

whip's office at the time and she had been asked to put together

:18:02.:18:03.

an induction programme for the new intake

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of 2015 Labour MPs. And Anne Wainwright,

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chair of Hermitage Moorings Thank you very much for coming in.

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Tim, I said that you were with Brendan when the call came through.

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It must have been a horrendous moment? It is a moment you just want

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to erase from your mummery. We knew Jo had been attacked and Brendan

:18:26.:18:29.

just ran, but that's not the way that we want to remember Jo. The

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ehaven'ts of Thursday, we were just saying before last time I saw Jo was

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Monday last week on the houseboat, she was hauling through a pile of

:18:41.:18:44.

laundry, through the houseboat as she talked about the kids and

:18:45.:18:52.

chickenpox and Syrian refugees and Anne was just saying... The story

:18:53.:18:56.

every Monday morning she would hang out her washing and I was thinking

:18:57.:18:59.

about the rain this morning and someone went past one day when she

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said, "I know it is raining, but it is going to be sunny later." We were

:19:04.:19:12.

just saying that so epitomized Jo's approach to life. She was a typical

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mum juggling duties, but with exceptional ability. When you saw

:19:19.:19:23.

her on Monday, what did you talk about? You talked about everything,

:19:24.:19:27.

didn't you? Brendan and I have been working together over the last six

:19:28.:19:32.

or eight months on an initiative to ask the question how do we change

:19:33.:19:35.

people's hearts and minds and move us away from this sort, the hatred

:19:36.:19:39.

and extremism that we have been, that we are just hearing and you

:19:40.:19:45.

know, these voices that want to divide us rather than bring us

:19:46.:19:48.

together particularly around the cause of refugees which Jo was a

:19:49.:19:52.

fantastic champion of. So we were talking about all of that as she was

:19:53.:19:58.

hauling through the laundry. I think the wonderful thing about Jo, she

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was an aids mazing mum, really genuinely, an incredible mum, but

:20:03.:20:07.

she, you know, she had that fierce love for her kids to want them to

:20:08.:20:10.

grow up in an environment that is safe and secure and loving. She also

:20:11.:20:14.

wanted that for every other mum in the world so she also thought about

:20:15.:20:20.

a Syrian mum in Aleppo being just as important as her. Her capacity to

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see that there is just so much more than That unites us all as people

:20:26.:20:29.

than what divides us no matter where we are, who we are. That's the

:20:30.:20:34.

legacy, that's the thing, well, that's the, it is the charge in a

:20:35.:20:37.

sense for all of us as her friends that we feel we want to move on with

:20:38.:20:43.

for the rest of our lives because she embody it so much. Next week,

:20:44.:20:48.

she was due to be involved in a report on the launch of radical

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nationalism. Is that something you were aware of? Yes. She know it is

:20:52.:20:57.

from her constituency in Yorkshire where she had seen this. You know,

:20:58.:21:01.

it is on both sides, the raticalisation in parts of in all

:21:02.:21:06.

parts of the community, this toxic sort of hatred and extremism and you

:21:07.:21:11.

know, she was always asking the question how does love win out over

:21:12.:21:16.

hate? How does hope win out over fear? You talked obviously about a

:21:17.:21:21.

very personal memory of her as a human, as a mum, did you see her as

:21:22.:21:24.

a politician? Did she put that across? That was interesting. We

:21:25.:21:28.

were talking about that last night. I moon, my image of her getting on

:21:29.:21:33.

her bicycle and cycling after she had done the domestic and made sure

:21:34.:21:36.

the children were fine, getting on her bike and coming into

:21:37.:21:39.

Westminster. I saw her every day, other than the day she was obviously

:21:40.:21:44.

in her constituency, but we are all also saying she just led by her

:21:45.:21:48.

shining examp. She never forced her politics on you. All the time I knew

:21:49.:21:54.

her subsequently when she became an MP, it was never made into a big

:21:55.:21:58.

issue. You just were aware, but I that I what I want to say is the

:21:59.:22:02.

most amazing thing that I think has struck us as a tiny very close-knit

:22:03.:22:07.

community is that our Jo belonged to everybody. Not just Jo talking about

:22:08.:22:16.

our Jo and listening to politicians all over the world talking about our

:22:17.:22:22.

Jo and suddenly we real uzed we only knew a tiny part of her and she was

:22:23.:22:26.

this incredible woman who touched people's lives, not just on a local

:22:27.:22:30.

basis, but on a truly, truly international basis. You must be

:22:31.:22:34.

proud to be able to call her a friend? Unbelievably so. Yes, you

:22:35.:22:39.

don't think about it every day when you see someone. You kind of take,

:22:40.:22:45.

although our friendship and sense of close community is not something we

:22:46.:22:49.

take for granted, but now, more than ever, yes, just to have known her is

:22:50.:22:56.

really special. You saw another side of her through politics. Tim and

:22:57.:23:05.

Anne know Jo better than I do, but she was this tiny person with this

:23:06.:23:10.

huge presence. I first met her about a year ago and what struck me about

:23:11.:23:14.

her was that she wanted to be an MP for all the right reasons. She

:23:15.:23:17.

wanted to campaign on the issues that she cared about. She wasn't

:23:18.:23:23.

interested in grand standing. She really wanted to make a difference

:23:24.:23:28.

both to her constituency, but also to our country and globally, but

:23:29.:23:35.

fundamentally, she was just such a decent human being. I think we all

:23:36.:23:42.

feel that enormous loss. You know, I remember watching her do Newsnight

:23:43.:23:46.

interviews within months of being elected and having a huge admiration

:23:47.:23:50.

for her and she was one of these people that when you spoke to her,

:23:51.:23:53.

you felt better at end of the conversation than you did at the

:23:54.:23:57.

beginning. And in the corridors of Westminster, sometimes you know,

:23:58.:24:00.

when you come across somebody with that absolute zest for life that she

:24:01.:24:06.

had and with such good decent beliefs and values that you just

:24:07.:24:12.

want to hang on this tomb. I was talking to one of my colleagues

:24:13.:24:15.

yesterday, a member of Parliament, she said the thing about Jo was that

:24:16.:24:19.

she was almost like a good box of chocolates and you thought you would

:24:20.:24:23.

be able to enjoy her over a period of time and what is so sad for all

:24:24.:24:29.

of us is that has been taken away from us and we're devastated about

:24:30.:24:34.

that, but it is, we're devastated for the loss to politics and to

:24:35.:24:38.

democracy as well because she had such wisdom and compassion and I

:24:39.:24:42.

think that is what is so, so sad. Do you think that loss might translate

:24:43.:24:46.

to a change in politics which is something that we have been talking?

:24:47.:24:49.

Lots of people tacking about whether that might be her legacy? I really

:24:50.:24:53.

hope so. Lots of people this weekend, when I have been out in my

:24:54.:24:57.

constituency have been saying to me, "Will it change the way I do my

:24:58.:25:02.

job?" I said, it won't change anything. I will continue to do my

:25:03.:25:06.

job in the way that I've done it. What I hope will happen though is

:25:07.:25:12.

that the words and actions of some other politicians who frankly should

:25:13.:25:17.

know better that they change some of the things that they do and say

:25:18.:25:20.

because we need a politics that does have more compassion. That is

:25:21.:25:25.

kinder, where we can sometimes agree to disagree and not create a climate

:25:26.:25:31.

of hatred and fear which my concern is that over the last couple of

:25:32.:25:35.

months that is what we have started to see in this country and if Jo's

:25:36.:25:40.

legacy is to mean anything, it means our democracy and our politics does

:25:41.:25:44.

start to change. Tim, those two children have lost

:25:45.:25:48.

their mother and Brendan is doing the best he can to and everybody

:25:49.:25:52.

around them to look after those children and protect them. He has

:25:53.:25:55.

tweeted about the fact that he took them camping as a way of remembering

:25:56.:26:01.

her. Tell us more about the sort of world the two of them created for

:26:02.:26:05.

their children? They love the outdoors. They love hiking. They, I

:26:06.:26:11.

think, in a way, it is quite amazing because they almost grew up in a

:26:12.:26:16.

world of enchantment which is what Brendan and Jo created for them. The

:26:17.:26:22.

stories and the adventures and just even the rituals of life like the

:26:23.:26:30.

little cottage on the river Wye which they escaped which is off

:26:31.:26:34.

mains electricity and water. It is their escape. They had time together

:26:35.:26:38.

and I always found it amazing, you would be at dinner and the kids, you

:26:39.:26:41.

know, half-way through dinner you hear a noise from the room and Jo

:26:42.:26:47.

would go back, close the door, say something five minutes later, shut

:26:48.:26:50.

the door and come back, and there would be no more noise from the

:26:51.:26:56.

kids. That was Jo. This amazing ability to just she is so close to

:26:57.:27:00.

the kids, but also and so present with the kids and also so present

:27:01.:27:07.

with all of us. Brenda, you know, the last couple of days, to help the

:27:08.:27:12.

kids, knowing her only three and five, they won't remember their mum,

:27:13.:27:16.

you know, when they're grown-up. So he is trying to help them to now

:27:17.:27:21.

write down their memories. So he got them to write down little memories

:27:22.:27:25.

on pieces of paper, cut out the paper, different shapes and hang

:27:26.:27:28.

them on a tree in the front garden where he is. I just think, you know,

:27:29.:27:35.

that's he is trying to carry on what Jo and he created for them and I

:27:36.:27:40.

guess as friends we will want to be doing all that we can to step in and

:27:41.:27:48.

try and help because I mean the loss is beyond words. What will your

:27:49.:27:56.

favourite memory be? I don't know if there is a single memory. Jo had

:27:57.:28:04.

such energy and flair and passion. Almost a bunsyness and a ver say

:28:05.:28:09.

shouldsness and such an openness. That's what I'll always remember.

:28:10.:28:14.

Lots of little silly memories, I guess. But memories that I think

:28:15.:28:23.

that we sort of, as Anne says, it is memories we all feel we share

:28:24.:28:28.

because it feels like now Jo is not just a personal friend, but someone

:28:29.:28:32.

bigger for everybody. She stands for what we want to be. She was the

:28:33.:28:37.

better person that each of us want to be. That's how I will remember

:28:38.:28:41.

her and I think to honour her, I guess, you know, I feel like I just

:28:42.:28:45.

want to pursue the things that we used to talk about and the causes

:28:46.:28:49.

that she held most dear. That is echoed in the way that

:28:50.:28:53.

everybody out there, who didn't know her is responding. A viewer is

:28:54.:28:59.

tweeting, "Typical message. So sad in circumstance, yet so

:29:00.:29:01.

inspirational in story. Jo Cox really was just a normal mum, yet a

:29:02.:29:05.

powerful woman." Thank you very much, thank you.

:29:06.:29:10.

Keep your thoughts coming in on everything we're talking about this

:29:11.:29:19.

morning on the programme. The hundreds of unaccompanied asylum

:29:20.:29:22.

seekers is something we will be talking about later. We will be

:29:23.:29:25.

asking what is being done to find them?

:29:26.:29:28.

And a worrying investigation finds an increase of force being used

:29:29.:29:30.

With the news, here's Sophie in the BBC Newsroom.

:29:31.:29:41.

The former Conservative Party chairman, Baroness Warsi,

:29:42.:29:44.

has criticised what she is calling the vile reaction to her

:29:45.:29:47.

decision to switch sides on the EU referendum.

:29:48.:29:52.

With just three days of campaigning left, the Tory peer says

:29:53.:29:54.

She says she made the decision after seeing a Ukip poster

:29:55.:29:58.

depicting a line of migrants, along with the slogan

:29:59.:30:00.

Vote Leave says it didn't remember ever having her support.

:30:01.:30:14.

MPs are being recalled to Parliament this afternoon so they can

:30:15.:30:18.

pay their respects to murdered colleague Jo Cox.

:30:19.:30:20.

The Commons had been in recess in the run-up

:30:21.:30:22.

Jo Cox was killed in her constituency of Birstall

:30:23.:30:26.

A fund set up in her memory has now raised over ?800,000.

:30:27.:30:37.

We all have a duty at all levels of politics to learn from this and who

:30:38.:30:43.

honoured Joe's legacy. We need a new kind of politics based on unity, not

:30:44.:30:49.

on division and on hope, not on fear.

:30:50.:30:52.

A new report suggests children held in custody in England and Wales

:30:53.:30:55.

are twice as likely to have force used against them by staff

:30:56.:30:58.

The findings have been revealed by the Howard League

:30:59.:31:02.

for Penal Reform, which says a new and widespread practice has

:31:03.:31:04.

emerged of locking up children by themselves on main prison wings

:31:05.:31:07.

40% of adults in the UK will be overweight by the year 2035,

:31:08.:31:14.

according to new research from the Obesity Health Alliance.

:31:15.:31:17.

The rising obesity levels could result in more

:31:18.:31:20.

than 7 million cases of serious illness such as diabetes, cancer

:31:21.:31:23.

The report also calls for a junk food tax and restrictions

:31:24.:31:28.

Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11 o'clock.

:31:29.:31:40.

Thank you. Now we can catch up with the sport with Sally in Paris. Good

:31:41.:31:46.

morning. England and Wales play their final

:31:47.:31:48.

group matches at the European Wayne Rooney could be rested

:31:49.:31:51.

as Roy Hodgson is rumoured to be making up to six changes to the team

:31:52.:31:55.

that beat Wales. England only need a point to be sure

:31:56.:31:58.

of going through to the last 16. For Wales, it could be

:31:59.:32:01.

a bit more serious. They need to win to guarantee

:32:02.:32:04.

qualification. Any other result

:32:05.:32:06.

could see them go out Hosts France finished top of group

:32:07.:32:12.

A last night after a goalless draw Both sides are through

:32:13.:32:15.

to the last 16. Albania have kept their chances

:32:16.:32:20.

of going through alive. They could end up facing

:32:21.:32:22.

the winners of group B which includes of course

:32:23.:32:32.

England and Wales. With just a week to go

:32:33.:32:33.

to the start of Wimbledon, Andy Murray has won a record fifth

:32:34.:32:36.

title at Queen's. He came from a set down

:32:37.:32:38.

to beat Milos Raonic. And Dustin Johnson is

:32:39.:32:41.

the new US Open champion. But he had to survive

:32:42.:32:43.

a controversial decision to penalise him one shot

:32:44.:32:47.

when his ball moved as he prepared That is all the sport for now. Thank

:32:48.:32:51.

you. A new report suggests children held

:32:52.:33:10.

in custody in England and Wales are twice as likely to have force

:33:11.:33:13.

used against them by staff The findings have been revealed

:33:14.:33:16.

by the Howard League Their director joins me now. You are

:33:17.:33:26.

talking about illegal, systemic abuse of children in prison. This is

:33:27.:33:32.

a report that we published reviewing progress over ten years. We

:33:33.:33:39.

published a report ten years ago, following by a review into the

:33:40.:33:43.

treatment of children. We find there has been some progress but there are

:33:44.:33:48.

major concerns regarding physical constraint and solitary confinement

:33:49.:33:52.

for children in custody. Solitary confinement for children as young as

:33:53.:33:56.

what? These are children under the age of 18 and some of them will be

:33:57.:34:02.

14 or 15. The issue on the progress side as we have seen a big reduction

:34:03.:34:06.

in the number of children in prison and we should welcome that. There

:34:07.:34:13.

are now under 1000 children in prison. But the very concerning fact

:34:14.:34:19.

is the use of restraint and physical violence to manage behaviour has

:34:20.:34:23.

greatly increased, almost doubling. Why do you think that is? The

:34:24.:34:29.

prisons are under great pressure and we have seen that in the adult

:34:30.:34:33.

prisons and in the child prisons. Less staff, less resources. Really

:34:34.:34:39.

we need to get to the bottom of why physical violence is being used in

:34:40.:34:44.

this way. When you think about the fact that two children have died in

:34:45.:34:48.

custody, there have been inquests, inquiries, acres of reports on

:34:49.:34:53.

trying to minimise and manage the use of restraint, to see it increase

:34:54.:34:57.

in this way and to see it being used to get children to do what they are

:34:58.:35:05.

told is very concerning. When you say that kids as young as 14 of 15

:35:06.:35:08.

are being put into solitary confinement, what is there at that

:35:09.:35:15.

stage that means a decision is taken to protect a child and what impact

:35:16.:35:19.

does it have on the child? We think there is not sufficient concern for

:35:20.:35:27.

that. Why are children put in solitary confinement? Clearly there

:35:28.:35:30.

are behavioural issues in the prison but it is not a healthy way of

:35:31.:35:34.

managing that behaviour, simply to isolate the child. And why is it a

:35:35.:35:38.

problem if children are restraint? These children have been in trouble

:35:39.:35:41.

with the law, which is why they are in prison, but they will be released

:35:42.:35:45.

and we want to make sure when they come out of custody they are

:35:46.:35:50.

law-abiding citizens of the future and not criminals and prisoners of

:35:51.:35:53.

the future. If you are teaching them effectively that the only way to

:35:54.:35:56.

deal with behaviour and the only way to get people to do what you want

:35:57.:36:00.

them to do is to use violence or isolate them for up to 23 hours a

:36:01.:36:05.

day, which has been proven to be damaging to mental health, then that

:36:06.:36:08.

is not going to create a healthy young people that we want. If a

:36:09.:36:14.

child is being particularly difficult, abusive, violent

:36:15.:36:20.

themselves, is this sort of thing justified in any circumstances?

:36:21.:36:23.

There are circumstances where physical restraint may be necessary.

:36:24.:36:28.

We know for a sample when young people are effect to themselves or

:36:29.:36:32.

other people or they are trying to escape, then staff may have to

:36:33.:36:37.

intervene. One of the concerns we have in this report, in one of three

:36:38.:36:41.

incidents, restraint is simply being used because the child is not doing

:36:42.:36:46.

something that they want them to do and they are using restraint to

:36:47.:36:51.

ensure compliance. To us that is not appropriate and in the courts it has

:36:52.:36:55.

been found to be unlawful. Thank you for joining us.

:36:56.:37:05.

Three 12-year-old girls rushed to hospital after taking

:37:06.:37:07.

"Teddy Bear" ecstasy tablets in Salford are now

:37:08.:37:09.

Officers believe the children took the drug after it was mixed

:37:10.:37:12.

Greater Manchester Police say a man and a woman have been arrested

:37:13.:37:17.

on suspicion of being in possession of a controlled substance.

:37:18.:37:19.

Dr Adam Winstock is the founder of the Global Drug Survey,

:37:20.:37:22.

the biggest drug survey in the world.

:37:23.:37:23.

Thank you for joining us. Have you heard about the teddy bear tablet

:37:24.:37:28.

before? Three girls aged 12 have been hospitalised as a result of

:37:29.:37:32.

taking it and that makes you wonder what is in it. What do you know?

:37:33.:37:39.

Until we have confirmation, there is a lot of uncertainty about whether

:37:40.:37:42.

this tablet contains a lot of MDMA, which would be very dangerous to

:37:43.:37:46.

12-year-old girls in itself, or whether there is another jargon, we

:37:47.:37:53.

just don't know. -- another drug. It would be unusual for three people to

:37:54.:37:57.

become very sick from taking the same tablet, but being 12 in itself

:37:58.:38:01.

increases your risk becoming very unwell if you take a lot of MDMA.

:38:02.:38:05.

And that difference is there ecstasy pills? We are seeing pictures and

:38:06.:38:11.

they are packaged differently. This is all branding and marketing. There

:38:12.:38:15.

is no relationship between the sides, the sheik, the logo on the

:38:16.:38:19.

tablet and how much MDMA there is in it. ! The size and shape. Some

:38:20.:38:27.

contain 200 mg of MDMA, four times a normal dose. Some people would think

:38:28.:38:32.

one tablet is a single dose, which is not the case. More MDMA is not

:38:33.:38:37.

more fun and it's hugely increases your risk of ending up seeking

:38:38.:38:42.

emergency medical treatment, which may be what has happened in the

:38:43.:38:46.

current case but we don't know. Explain what MDMA is and the effect

:38:47.:38:51.

on the body. MDMA is the archetypal drug that we know as ecstasy, a

:38:52.:38:56.

stimulant drug and at moderate doses, 80 mg, people feel happy,

:38:57.:39:01.

euphoric, empathy. People go clubbing on it. But bigger doses of

:39:02.:39:05.

that drug can make people feel nauseous and can make people

:39:06.:39:10.

overheat, dehydrate, get heart problems, people become confused,

:39:11.:39:13.

cut off from their surroundings. What we have seen from the global

:39:14.:39:17.

drug survey over three years is the marked increase in the number of

:39:18.:39:22.

young people, especially young women, seeking emergency medical

:39:23.:39:25.

treatment following the use of MDMA. At the moment we have a situation

:39:26.:39:30.

where it has never been so easy to take so much, and that is why we are

:39:31.:39:34.

saying to people, peace be really careful. The best thing to do is to

:39:35.:39:40.

avoid it but if you are going to use it, start low, go slow and keep an

:39:41.:39:43.

eye on your friends. If something goes wrong, they are the people who

:39:44.:39:47.

can get you to the first aid tent and call for help as soon as you

:39:48.:39:52.

can. And don't mix with alcohol and other drugs because that increases

:39:53.:39:53.

your risk. Thank you. It's almost a year since a lone

:39:54.:40:00.

gunman opened fire on a beach in Tunisia, killing 38 tourists,

:40:01.:40:03.

30 of them British. The attack, claimed

:40:04.:40:05.

by the so-called Islamic State, was the greatest loss of British

:40:06.:40:07.

life in a terrorist attack since the London bombings

:40:08.:40:10.

in July 2005. One of the survivors, Colin Bidwell

:40:11.:40:12.

from Windlesham in Sussex, wanted to return to the resort

:40:13.:40:14.

town of Sousse. The BBC took him back

:40:15.:40:18.

for what he calls a I'm a painter and decorator

:40:19.:40:20.

from Windlesham. Myself and my wife, we've been

:40:21.:40:29.

travelling to Tunisia, I think, 11 times now,

:40:30.:40:34.

and what happened on that day changed our lives forever,

:40:35.:40:37.

and many other people's as well. But I feel now is the right

:40:38.:40:41.

time for me to go back. Myself and my wife were just

:40:42.:40:48.

down here on the right. Probably getting very close

:40:49.:41:28.

to it now. Just heard some sounds,

:41:29.:41:48.

just thought, fireworks, Just turned, looked at my wife

:41:49.:41:55.

on the sunbed next to me, and she was already off the sunbed,

:41:56.:42:03.

running in that direction. I just decided to run straight down

:42:04.:42:06.

the beach into the sea. I knew I was the last

:42:07.:42:12.

person left on the beach. And I thought he was coming

:42:13.:42:15.

towards me and just continuing It was a very good thing you did

:42:16.:42:25.

for me, you saved my life. So I was here,

:42:26.:42:51.

Mohammed, wasn't I? And you pulled me up

:42:52.:43:02.

here onto the boat. I remember my head was against

:43:03.:43:10.

the outboard and all I could I will never forget it,

:43:11.:43:13.

never forget that. I can still hear

:43:14.:43:16.

everything going on. Mohammed told me to go

:43:17.:43:19.

into the Bellevue. As soon as I looked over the other

:43:20.:43:28.

side of the wall, there was this AK-47 on the front of it,

:43:29.:43:41.

just sticking out, and I could just I was just going to continue

:43:42.:43:44.

over the wall, and then I know that if I had jumped,

:43:45.:43:48.

I would probably have been hit Just being here now I can

:43:49.:43:57.

feel my heart in my mouth again. Just how I felt, just

:43:58.:44:02.

complete, We are in the University

:44:03.:44:04.

Hospital in Sousse. Where myself and a majority

:44:05.:44:40.

of the injured came Just the panic in the place,

:44:41.:44:42.

the tension, the smells, I will never forget those,

:44:43.:44:52.

never forget those. Everybody sends their love,

:44:53.:44:55.

everybody sends their love. Now there is a relation,

:44:56.:45:15.

more than doctor and patient I hope and pray it becomes

:45:16.:45:18.

a safe country. That other people can come back

:45:19.:45:31.

here and help the economy. Because the economy has been ruined

:45:32.:45:34.

just because of one person. And there are still a lot

:45:35.:45:37.

of survivors that will be scared to come back, and I understand that,

:45:38.:45:40.

I was scared coming here. But for me it was a process,

:45:41.:45:43.

I had to do it, I had to process it, to put me in a better

:45:44.:45:47.

place where I am today. Well, that's Colin's emotional

:45:48.:46:14.

story. The former Conservative Party chair

:46:15.:46:19.

has criticised the vile reaction she says she has had following her

:46:20.:46:23.

decision to switch sides in the EU referendum from Leave to Remain.

:46:24.:46:27.

Lots of you letting us know your thoughts on it.

:46:28.:46:34.

This is proof of the fickle attitude politicians have and of their lack

:46:35.:46:39.

of principle or conviction on anything, not agreeing with the

:46:40.:46:43.

conduct of a campaign, didn't make out wrong or the other side right.

:46:44.:46:47.

It just shows she has not got the future of the UK at heart." E-mail

:46:48.:46:55.

from Mark John Terry how breathtakingly immature of Lady

:46:56.:47:03.

Warsi to change sides. Where is her core beliefs?" If Baroness Warsi, I

:47:04.:47:16.

have not forgotten the rent scandal." Philip says, "I agree with

:47:17.:47:23.

her on most things, but leaving because of a Ukip poster seems odd."

:47:24.:47:33.

"No doubt more on a promise from Cameron than anything intellectual.

:47:34.:47:37.

As if she would influence one single person." Thank you four your

:47:38.:47:39.

comments. Keep them coming in. Figures obtained by this programme

:47:40.:47:43.

show hundreds of migrant children have disappeared after arriving

:47:44.:47:45.

in the UK on their own, On average, at least eight children

:47:46.:47:48.

went missing from local authority Many are feared to have been

:47:49.:47:51.

trafficked and exploited We bought you the full report

:47:52.:47:55.

from Asian Network's Divya Talwar Some people because they come in and

:47:56.:48:10.

they are moved to a different area... Young girls coming to this

:48:11.:48:14.

youth group in London are from different countries and they speak

:48:15.:48:16.

different languages, but they found a lot of in common. All of the young

:48:17.:48:23.

girls in there were trafficked into the UKment some were forced into

:48:24.:48:27.

prostitution, others made to work in nail bars, in restaurants, in

:48:28.:48:32.

private homes. I wasn't allowed to go out. The only time I used to go

:48:33.:48:38.

was to take the bin from the house to the bin outside. Tina was 14 when

:48:39.:48:43.

she was trafficked into the UK from Nigeria. She was taken straight to a

:48:44.:48:49.

woman's house who Tina was told to call auntie. She was enslaved in the

:48:50.:48:54.

house. I was a slave because I had to do things, you know, unpaid job

:48:55.:49:01.

and then on top of that, I was limited with the things that I felt

:49:02.:49:06.

I was entitled to. She told me, "You're lucky I haven't sent you for

:49:07.:49:11.

prostitution." She was very, very violent. Tina managed to runaway,

:49:12.:49:18.

but says social workers didn't recognise she was a traffic child

:49:19.:49:23.

and she was sent back to live with her auntie. Charities says vun ral

:49:24.:49:29.

and trafficked migrant children aren't always given the right

:49:30.:49:32.

support after he arrive in the UK on their own. Almost 900 unaccompanied

:49:33.:49:38.

asill lull seeking children went missing from care between 2013 and

:49:39.:49:42.

2015. A third still haven't been found. There would be a national

:49:43.:49:46.

outcry if this was the same number of British born children going

:49:47.:49:48.

missing from care. We are in a situation now where we have hundreds

:49:49.:49:51.

of missing children, migrant children, and no one knows where

:49:52.:49:55.

they are. They are presumed to have been trafficked, but very little is

:49:56.:50:00.

being done. It is unacceptable. Kent County Council is looking after more

:50:01.:50:04.

unaccompanied children than any other local authority. And it also

:50:05.:50:09.

saw the most go missing. Last year it was around four a week. We do

:50:10.:50:13.

everything we can to safeguard the children and to protect the

:50:14.:50:20.

children. We put them with good foster carers and we give them

:50:21.:50:23.

social workers. We can't put them under lock and key. We were told the

:50:24.:50:28.

Government will publish a new strategy this year. Those who have

:50:29.:50:33.

gone missing maybe found years later being exploited by criminal gangs.

:50:34.:50:36.

In many of the cases, the children may never show up again.

:50:37.:50:45.

"The Government will later this year publish a new missing strategy

:50:46.:50:51.

and implementation plan including actions in relation to reducing

:50:52.:50:53.

children going missing from care and reducing the harm

:50:54.:50:55.

If you want to watch the full report you can find it on our programme

:50:56.:50:59.

Chloe Setter is Head of Policy for the anti-child

:51:00.:51:08.

Lynne Chitty is UK Care director of Love 146 UK.

:51:09.:51:12.

They provide safe accommodation for trafficked children and provide

:51:13.:51:14.

Lynne is currently working with 11 trafficked children.

:51:15.:51:20.

Thank you for coming in. Chloe, what is happening to these children? The

:51:21.:51:28.

one that is go missing? Yes. We presume many are being trafficked.

:51:29.:51:32.

Often the case is they arrive in the country and they usually go missing

:51:33.:51:37.

often within 48 hours or a week and so often quickly. Sometimes less.

:51:38.:51:40.

And they are returning to their traffickers because they have been

:51:41.:51:44.

told and groomed by their traffickers to return to them once

:51:45.:51:47.

they enter the care system. Sometimes the care system is used

:51:48.:51:52.

like holding pens so the traffickers know they are not that safe and they

:51:53.:51:55.

know the children can easily get away. They tell the children go into

:51:56.:51:58.

care and when you get there, call this number or come and meet us at

:51:59.:52:02.

this location and then they get exmroted and moved around the

:52:03.:52:05.

country. So take it back a step then. Where are most of these kids

:52:06.:52:09.

coming from and how are the traffickers finding them and what is

:52:10.:52:14.

the route? What are they told about what they will get if they come

:52:15.:52:19.

here? It is very complex. There is no one same scenario. The countries

:52:20.:52:22.

we are seeing children trafficked from at the moment and have been for

:52:23.:52:28.

many years from these countries is nigh gatheria,nate vam, Albania,

:52:29.:52:31.

some parts of Eastern Europe, Romania, it is varied from different

:52:32.:52:35.

parts of the world and they come for different reasons. They are

:52:36.:52:40.

exploited in secondsual exploitation, forced labour, forced

:52:41.:52:43.

criminality which is being forced to grow drugs or carry drugs or

:52:44.:52:46.

pickpocketing on the streets of London. It is a varied crime. But

:52:47.:52:51.

what we're seeing is really unacceptable which is local

:52:52.:52:55.

authorities not putting in place the right safeguards to protect these

:52:56.:53:01.

children and keep them safe and that's to do with a lack of

:53:02.:53:04.

resourcing from Government and a failure to treat them as children.

:53:05.:53:09.

They are often seen through the lens of immigration and not seen as who

:53:10.:53:13.

they are, which is children who need protection. You are working with 11

:53:14.:53:18.

children who were trafficked, you must have worked with many more over

:53:19.:53:21.

the years... Hundreds. What's the typical child you see? We are

:53:22.:53:24.

working with young people from Vietnam. Some young people from

:53:25.:53:29.

Albania, but Vietnam is the highest at the moment for us. And can you

:53:30.:53:33.

persuade a child to go down a different path? The kids that end up

:53:34.:53:39.

with you, how is it that they are finding their way to you? We truly

:53:40.:53:44.

believe, as soon as a child is identified or suspected of being

:53:45.:53:47.

trafficked they need to be safeguarded immediately. We have

:53:48.:53:53.

developed a safety plan so these young people go on to a safety plan

:53:54.:53:57.

of the there is no access to a telephone and internet. They don't

:53:58.:54:01.

have money and the carers are with them 24/7 and they escort them if

:54:02.:54:05.

they go out. That gives that period of time for the police to look at

:54:06.:54:10.

the trafficking against them and also us to look at the child

:54:11.:54:14.

protection. This enables young people to learn about their rights

:54:15.:54:19.

in the UK and that there could be another way and they could stay

:54:20.:54:24.

safe, but without that safety plan, young people are going to

:54:25.:54:30.

inappropriate placements and making contact and disappearing. Diana

:54:31.:54:35.

said, "How can the UK believe we can help these children when our own are

:54:36.:54:41.

abused in care or held in solitary confinement. Let's not play with

:54:42.:54:45.

more children's lives." Peter says, "So they have disappeared, what a

:54:46.:54:50.

surprise? Another disaster created by the media and stupid gullible do

:54:51.:54:54.

gooders. They were better off where they were." Howard said, "They

:54:55.:54:59.

should have been sent back to their home country at the earliest

:55:00.:55:07.

opportunity." Not much sympathy? It reflects what we see in practise.

:55:08.:55:12.

They have rights here. All children have the same universal rights

:55:13.:55:16.

wherever they are from, it doesn't matter what their immigration status

:55:17.:55:19.

is. We have safety guarding duties to them. You know, but what we see

:55:20.:55:24.

in practise is sometimes that xenophobic attitude and it is really

:55:25.:55:29.

unhelpful. And dabbling for children who have been through some shocking

:55:30.:55:34.

trauma and abuse, often for many, many years. From what you were

:55:35.:55:40.

saying though, effectively being brought here albeit vulnerable

:55:41.:55:43.

children, but told to play the system? Well, they are not really

:55:44.:55:47.

playing the system because they are the oning... Someone else is

:55:48.:55:53.

benefiting from their abuse. How do you get to the traffickers in the

:55:54.:55:57.

first place and stop the chain before it kind of get to say this?

:55:58.:56:00.

That's the million dollar question, you know, we need a multi-agency

:56:01.:56:07.

response. We need a global response. We need a cross-border child

:56:08.:56:11.

protection response. We need the Criminal Justice System come down

:56:12.:56:16.

hard on traffickers. We rarely see prosecutors of child trafficking. It

:56:17.:56:20.

is very rare. We are seeing traffickers operate with impunity.

:56:21.:56:24.

What concerns us is what we want the Government to do is put in place

:56:25.:56:27.

measures that we know would be helpful. So for example, there was a

:56:28.:56:31.

trial last year, 23 local authorities across England of a

:56:32.:56:36.

child trafficking advocate scheme, every child was given an independent

:56:37.:56:40.

person, they must build that relationship of trust from an early

:56:41.:56:44.

stage. A quick thought from you Lynn, presumably the kids come here

:56:45.:56:46.

thinking they will have a better life. Do many of them end up with

:56:47.:56:53.

that? It is not all doom and gloom, if you safeguard immediately and you

:56:54.:56:57.

put in a safety plan and do your wrap around support, the children

:56:58.:57:05.

stand a chance. Thank you very much. Now MPs return to the Commons to pay

:57:06.:57:11.

tribute to the MP, Jo Cox who was shot and stabbed at her constituency

:57:12.:57:16.

last week. Those tributes will begin after 2pm this afternoon and you can

:57:17.:57:20.

watch them on the BBC News Channel this afternoon. Harry on Facebook

:57:21.:57:26.

says, "What Jo Cox brought to politics was honesty and straight

:57:27.:57:29.

talking. Many others could and should learn from her. She was one

:57:30.:57:32.

of a very small number of MPs who had genuine respect from all

:57:33.:57:37.

quarters. I really hope that nobody will use her tragic death for

:57:38.:57:42.

political gain." Jo tweeted to say, "It is very sad this undoubtedly

:57:43.:57:47.

special person has been murdered." Nick tweeted to say, "Don't expect

:57:48.:57:50.

politicians to change following Jo's tragic death. Most of them have

:57:51.:57:57.

forgotten how to tell the truth. " It is a subject we were talking

:57:58.:58:02.

about earlier about whether the legacy of the death of Jo Cox could

:58:03.:58:08.

be that politics becomes gentler. Thank youyard your comments today.

:58:09.:58:09.

Thank you for your company. Tomorrow, what is TTIP and why

:58:10.:58:13.

you should care about it. Victoria's back and she'll bring

:58:14.:58:16.

you a special report after so many of you got in touch

:58:17.:58:18.

asking us to look into it. See you very soon. Have a good

:58:19.:58:22.

afternoon. Bye-bye. Catch all the action from

:58:23.:58:35.

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