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A terrorist attack on Turkey's main international airport has killed | :00:07. | :00:20. | |
The Turkish Prime Minister is blaming so-called Islamic State. | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
We will talk to eyewitnesses in the next few minutes. | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
The biggest jobs in politics are up for grabs. | :00:30. | :00:31. | |
Today, we'll find out who plans to run for Prime Minister as yet | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
more pressure mounts on Labour's leader Jeremy Corbyn to stand down. | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
And undercover officers will be banned from having sex | :00:37. | :00:42. | |
with the people they're spying on unless their life is threatened. | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
Mark Kennedy was an officer who slept with one of his targets | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
He insisted to me back in 2012 that he loved | :00:49. | :00:51. | |
I know that the relationship that we had outside of what names were was | :00:52. | :01:03. | |
probably one of the most loving experiences I have ever had. But you | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
were lying to her? I was lying to her about my name and who I was, | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
yes. We will get reaction from the lawyer | :01:12. | :01:19. | |
representing the eight women whop duped into having relationships with | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
undercover officers. Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag victorialive | :01:26. | :01:34. | |
and if you text, you will be charged Our top story today - | :01:35. | :01:36. | |
terror in Turkey - at least 36 people are now known | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
to have been killed and more than 140 injured in an attack | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
on Istanbul's Ataturk International Three suicide bombers began shooting | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
inside and outside the terminal, The Turkish Prime Minister said it | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
looked like Islamic State was behind the attack | :01:52. | :01:59. | |
as Tom Donkin reports. The moment Ataturk Art was hit by a | :02:00. | :02:12. | |
deadly attack. Three suicide bombers stormed the busy international | :02:13. | :02:18. | |
terminal. One reportedly opening fire with a Kalashnikov machine gun. | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
The Turk English Prime Minister blamed Islamic State group for the | :02:22. | :02:28. | |
assault. Daesh. Eye withins who were in the terminal described how the | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
situation unfolded. People were shooting on one side and we all ran | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
the other way and then the bombs went off. | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
TRANSLATION: They were shooting at the police and the police were | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
shooting at them. Someone next to us got shot and then we saw the bomb | :02:49. | :02:56. | |
and the x-ray machine blow up. This is one of the busiest airports in | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
Europe. The volume of passengers making it a vulnerable target and | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
many say the authorities were unprepared for an attack of this | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
scale. This year, several have been blamed on either Kurdish separatists | :03:12. | :03:17. | |
or Islamic State group. The country's president has been heavily | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
criticised for not doing enough to tackle the threats his country | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
faces, but after the events here, many are left wondering what he can | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
do to improve the security situation in Turkey a country which sits in | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
what has become an ever volatile region. | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
We will talk to eyewitness ins ten minutes time. | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :03:43. | :03:44. | |
David Cameron has said Britain "will not and should not" | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
turn its back on Europe as it leaves the European Union. | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
After talks with other EU leaders in Brussels, | :03:52. | :03:53. | |
the Prime Minister said last night that trade and security co-operation | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
would be vital whatever the shape of future ties. | :03:57. | :03:58. | |
The President of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, | :03:59. | :04:00. | |
said Mr Cameron's successor would be expected to invoke Article 50, | :04:01. | :04:08. | |
the formal notification of leaving speedily. | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
Nominations open today for Mr Cameron's successor | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
as Conservative Party leader and Prime Minister. | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn is refusing to resign as Labour | :04:19. | :04:20. | |
leader despite a motion of no confidence in him | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
To talk about all of this, we can now speak to our political | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
Well, another day, Norman, where there is so much to get your head | :04:28. | :04:37. | |
around? All change here today, Joanna with two leadership contests | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
expected to kick in to action. Jeremy Corbyn still remaining | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
defiant and tonight he will address a rally of his supporters to prepare | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
them for the looming clash ahead. His critics are hoping that left | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
leaning MPs and trade union leaders can maybe at this 11th hour still | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
convince him to stand down. If they can't then after Prime Minister's | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
Questions, it is expected they will unveil their candidate, most likely | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
person is going to be the former Shadow Business Secretary, Angela | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
Eagle, but at the moment no sign of give despite the huge pressure on | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Have a listen to his colleague, the Shadow Chancellor, | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
John McDonnell, this morning. All I said to Labour MPs is play by the | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
rules, but the most important thing at the moment is just calm down. Our | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
country is facing some real serious risks at the moment and we've got a | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
job as MPs to come together and try and protect the people who maybe | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
affected. They are largely the most vulnerable. So that's what we are | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
worried. If there is to be a democratic election in the party, | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
that's fine. Asking MPs to play by the rules, but in the meantime, | :05:47. | :05:49. | |
let's do our job and protect the interests of our country. So Labour | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
seems poised for a very brutal leadership contest. On the Tory | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
side, nominations open this evening to replace David Cameron as leader. | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
Boris Johnson in pole position. Theresa May seen as the most likely | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
person to push him for that place, but we have had a flurry of people | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
coming forward this morning setting out their saules. We heard from Liz | :06:15. | :06:22. | |
Truss who is backing lorge and Sajid Javid who is backing Stephen Crabb | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
and Nicki Morgan, the Education Secretary who is contemplating | :06:27. | :06:28. | |
having a go. Let's listen to all of them We need to make sure that we | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
get a good deal in our negotiations with the rest of the world and | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
Europe and I think Boris is a politician who can operate on that | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
world stage and that's what I want party members to think about. I | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
think Stephen has absolutely what it takes to lead this country, to make | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
sure it comes out stronger and also that it comes out as a much more | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
united country. I'm actively thinking. There has to be a place | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
for this pitch on the centre ground of British politics and I will make | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
a decision obviously like everybody else by midday tomorrow. There are a | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
lot of Tory MPs who would rather walk over burning coals and jump off | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
a cliff than vote for Boris Johnson, but it is hard to see how anyone | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
stops him because the final decision will come down to party members and | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
amongst party members, one suspects Boris Johnson is the runaway | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
favourite. One Tory MP told me yesterday they had a fund-raiser, | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
?60 a ticket to see Boris Johnson and they sold 300 tickets, another | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
fund-raiser to see Theresa May, they sold only 30 tickets! | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
STUDIO: Thank you very much, Norman. A rulebook for police working | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
undercover in England and Wales has The draft guidance bans sexual | :07:41. | :07:42. | |
relationships and says officers must Here's our Home Affairs | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
Correspondent, Dominic Casciani. Stephen Lawrence's family | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
targeted for intelligence. The names of dead children used | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
for fake identities. And officers sleeping | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
with their targets. Serious allegations levelled | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
against undercover police. Mark Kennedy had relationships | :08:02. | :08:08. | |
with three women while undercover, one deployment led to a major | :08:09. | :08:10. | |
miscarriage of justice. A public inquiry will | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
soon examine his case. Today, the College of Policing | :08:17. | :08:18. | |
for England and Wales says It's shining an unprecedented light | :08:19. | :08:20. | |
into the shadows by publishing The guidance says officers | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
are banned from having sexual They must be psychologically vetted | :08:25. | :08:31. | |
and senior officers must There have been very legitimate | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
public concerns about the use It is a very, very important tactic | :08:37. | :08:42. | |
in catching the most dangerous and serious | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
criminals in our society, but it is right that the rules | :08:46. | :08:47. | |
should be laid out and that the public should understand | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
what the rules are and that the people working | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
in that environment, Kate Wilson, campaigning to know why | :08:54. | :08:54. | |
she had a relationship She is not convinced the police | :08:55. | :09:01. | |
can reform themselves. If there is no public oversight | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
and by public oversight I don't mean some other establishment official | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
signing off on what they're doing behind closed doors, | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
I mean real public oversight then I don't see how there can be any | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
kind of control. Undercover operations could be | :09:15. | :09:21. | |
happening anywhere at any time and even though there is only | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
so much the public will ever be told, police chiefs | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
insist there is now proper Toyota is recalling nearly | :09:29. | :09:30. | |
1.5 million cars worldwide. There are concerns about the safety | :09:31. | :09:44. | |
of the air bags in some Prius and Lexus hybrid models, | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
which were first sold The company said it was not aware | :09:48. | :09:49. | |
of any injuries or deaths A TV advert for the | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
anti-inflammatory drug Nurofen has been banned | :09:53. | :09:59. | |
for falsely claiming that it could specifically target | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
joint and back pain. The ad then showed shots | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
of the woman going about her usual activities without any pain, | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
interspersed with anatomical images of her back with a Nurofen symbol | :10:14. | :10:15. | |
indicating where the pain Police forces are apparently | :10:16. | :10:18. | |
choosing not to enforce a new law protecting children from people | :10:19. | :10:25. | |
smoking in cars. Legislation introduced in October | :10:26. | :10:27. | |
last year made it illegal to smoke in a vehicle carrying someone under | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
the age of 18. But now a Freedom of Information | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
request has revealed that only three police forces in England and Wales | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
reported cases and all were dealt A rescue is underway off the coast | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
of California to save a blue whale. It's the second time crews have | :10:41. | :10:49. | |
tried to untangle the 80-foot whale, which has become trapped | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
in fishing lines. It is rare for blue whales | :10:52. | :10:54. | |
to become tangled in the nets because they usually swim | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
far from shore. That's a summary of | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
the latest BBC News. Do get in touch with us | :11:03. | :11:04. | |
throughout the morning. Use the hashtag victorialive | :11:05. | :11:15. | |
and if you text, you will be charged Sorry about, it is just the way it | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
is. He could be the most popular | :11:19. | :11:29. | |
Englishman in sport at the moment. This man, Marcus Willis, | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
has shot to fame after winning his opening match | :11:35. | :11:36. | |
at Wimbledon on Monday. He doesn't usually make the | :11:37. | :11:38. | |
headlines. All the more remarkable because he's | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
ranked 772 in the world. Now he faces a dream tie | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
against seven time He had to battle through six rounds | :11:47. | :11:48. | |
of qualifying before he beat Ricardas Berankis | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
in the first round. He's earned about ?200 so far this | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
year, but is now guaranteed at least To put that into perspective, | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
Federer has pocketed more Along with Willis, Andy Murray made | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
it through to the second round too. In the battle of the Brits, | :12:09. | :12:17. | |
Murray made light work The world number two Murray saw | :12:18. | :12:24. | |
off the world number 235 on Centre Court, | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
in the first all-British meeting Britain's other number | :12:29. | :12:30. | |
one Konta's first match She's a set up against | :12:31. | :12:40. | |
Puerto Rico's Monica Pweeg. The fall-out from England's | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
embarrassing exit from the Euros The latest is that Gareth Southgate, | :12:47. | :12:55. | |
the England under-21 boss, could take over the senior team | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
temporarily, while the FA looks for a long-term successor for Roy | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
Hodgson. Hodgson resigned on Monday | :13:05. | :13:05. | |
after England's 2-1 loss to Iceland. Well, the England players arrived | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
back at Luton Airport yesterday. The weather, quite fittingly, | :13:12. | :13:13. | |
grey and miserable. Hodgson, somewhat reluctantly, spoke | :13:14. | :13:15. | |
to the media before the flight. He said there were no "magic | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
answers" to explain I don't really know what I'm doing | :13:19. | :13:30. | |
here. I thought my statement last night was sufficient. I'm no longer | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
the England mansioner. My time has been and gone, but I was told that | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
it was important for everybody that I appear and I guess that's partly | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
because people are still smarting from our poor performance yesterday | :13:45. | :13:47. | |
and the defeat which has seen us leave the tournament and I suppose | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
someone has to stand and take the slings and arrows that come with it. | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
Let's turn our attention to the last remaining Home Nation | :14:00. | :14:01. | |
They play their quarter-final against Belgium on Friday, | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
but at a press conference yesterday they faced questions on this video | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
that has emerged on social media where they are enthusiastically | :14:11. | :14:12. | |
celebrating that Iceland victory over England. | :14:13. | :14:19. | |
Fullback Chris Gunter tried to explain the players reaction. | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
I think if you asked the squad as a whole, maybe it is a selfish point | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
of view, Wales are proud to be the last home nations team left in the | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
tournament. We've come such a long way and football has a funny way of | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
bringing out emotions as we have seen when we played them a couple of | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
weeks ago. But it certainly wasn't meant to come across in that way! | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
Wales against Belgium live on BBC One on Friday, | :14:52. | :14:54. | |
Good morning. Another terror attack at another International Airport | :14:55. | :15:04. | |
just three months after the bombings in Brussels. Three suicide bombers | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
have caused devastation at icean bull's Ataturk Airport killing 36 | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
people and wounding more than 140. The attackers dressed in black, | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
arrived in a taxi and opened fire outside the terminal before entering | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
the departures hall and shooting at random. When they were stopped by | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
armed police, they blew themselves up. The Turkish Prime Minister says | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
it looks like the terror group, Islamic State, carried out the | :15:31. | :15:31. | |
attack. Our Turkey Correspondent Selin | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
Gerit is in Istanbul. Tell us the latest from where you | :15:35. | :15:47. | |
are? The death toll still remains at 36 at the moment and the injured are | :15:48. | :15:54. | |
over 140 people. Relatives of the injured and relatives of the dead | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
keep waiting at the hospitals, in a dreadful weight. 27 of the | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
identities of the dead have been confirmed but had not yet announced. | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
We don't know yet the nationality of the 36 people who have been killed | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
in the attack, but officials are saying that mostly they are Turks. | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
The Prime Minister said the early signs are showing the involvement of | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
the Islamic State militants. This was a major attack, very | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
co-ordinated, and the usual suspects could either be Islamic State or the | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
Kurdish militant group PKK. But the Prime Minister said early signs | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
indicate IS involvement, which will of course open new questions. | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
Opposition has been blaming Turkish Government for making this country | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
more vulnerable because of its alleged support for the rebels in | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
Syria and people have been raising questions about how vulnerable | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
Turkey has become and why. And they are really legitimate questions, | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
because there have been a series of terrorist attacks across Turkey in | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
the last year or so. In the last year alone, eight major bombings had | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
taken place, suicide bombings, car bombings, and 17 attacks in total, | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
coming from either the IS militants or the PKK Kurdish militant group or | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
its offshoot. Nearly 300 people were killed in these attacks in the last | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
year alone. People in Turkey are feeling increasingly concerned about | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
what might happen next and considering what happened yesterday | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
has become already one of the deadliest attacks in Turkey, people | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
are getting more concerned and one of the major concerns is that this | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
attack has targeted an airport. Airport security is a major issue in | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
Turkey and 36 people have been killed, but if there are more | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
attacks, more similar attacks that could take place, more lives could | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
be at stake. Thank you very much for the moment, that is our Turkey | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
corresponded Selin Gerit. Will Carter was at the airport when the | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
explosions went off and Richard Callens is a businessman who had | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
arrived on an international flight when the airport was attacked. I am | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
grateful for your time considering what you have been experiencing. | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
Richard, tell us what you saw and what you heard. We arrived at around | :18:28. | :18:35. | |
9:30pm last night. We were headed towards the passport control area, | :18:36. | :18:42. | |
in the airport, when people started shouting and running towards us. | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
People were screaming that there had been a bomb, screaming about | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
gunfire. I turned around and started running in the opposite direction. | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
There was a lot of panic, a lot of chaos, people falling on the ground. | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
The crowd moved into a corridor which ended up being a dead end, | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
which led to a lot of panic. People didn't know what to do, everyone was | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
trapped in the corridor. The situation remained like that for a | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
couple of hours, no information about what was going on. There were | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
reports of explosions and gunfire but among the crowd I was in, there | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
was a lot of fear and uncertainty about what was happening and what | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
was going to happen. Shortly after midnight, the airport personnel let | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
us know the situation had been contained and it was safe to exit | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
the airport so we headed through the passport area into the international | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
arrivals zone, which was only about 200 metres from where we had been | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
hiding and it turned out that was the area where the explosion had | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
gone off. As we went through the arrivals area, we were able to see | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
the extent of the damage, smashed glass, a ceiling partially | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
collapsed, lots of blood on the floor, kiosks that had been smashed | :20:00. | :20:04. | |
and torn apart from the force of the explosion. Also a lot of dusty smoke | :20:05. | :20:06. | |
in the air. There were lots ambulances outside | :20:07. | :20:23. | |
taking people away and the general scene of chaos outside, waiting for | :20:24. | :20:32. | |
family and friends to arrive. Richard, we have caught most of what | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
you had told us, it sounds absolutely horrifying but you are | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
telling us in a very calm and measured way. Will Carter, you were | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
in the baggage collection area. Tell us what you heard first of all. Good | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
morning. Two fairly large explosions, it felt like outside the | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
arrivals area on the basement floor and the departure area is above. A | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
minute or so later, an explosion happened inside the building, just | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
where you leave the baggage collection area through customs and | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
where families are waiting, in the arrivals section in the building. So | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
we saw a fireball at that stage, the debris come down, and there was a | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
lot of panic after that. You are lucky to be alive. Yes, there are | :21:20. | :21:30. | |
many variables. A few minutes earlier, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
have made it and if there was another attack after that, I'm | :21:34. | :21:36. | |
pretty sure nothing would have stopped it coming through and | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
causing more casualties, including me. How long were you in the | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
building before you were able to get out? When the first two explosions | :21:46. | :21:53. | |
had happened, I had asked... Well, I was screaming at this point for the | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
ground staff to tell us where the emergency exits were and a few | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
seconds later, the explosions happened in the arrivals section is | :22:01. | :22:08. | |
and we just had to run further inside the terminal. We found a | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
staff area just off the immigration section, which we took shelter in | :22:14. | :22:23. | |
and hoped nothing else could happen. It was a good two hours or so that | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
we were waiting there. I am going to bring Richard back in, I think we | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
have re-established the connection to you. I don't know if it is too | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
soon for things... For you to have really absorbed what you experienced | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
last night, but what are you thinking this morning? Well, I | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
was... While the events were taking place, there really wasn't much | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
information about what was going on, a lot of hearsay and people were | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
really confused about what was happening, general mode of panic, | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
but what had happened hit home when we were able to exit the airport and | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
saw the extent of the damage and realised we had been so close to the | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
explosion and gunfire, just a couple of hundred metres down a corridor, | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
so that really hit home as we were leaving the airport and saw what had | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
gone on. At this point, just kind of lucky to have avoided any problems | :23:24. | :23:31. | |
and lucky to have made it out of the airport. Well, I gather you are an | :23:32. | :23:41. | |
aid worker, you will have helped people who have gone through some | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
rather traumatic experiences. I wonder how you rationalise what you | :23:47. | :23:54. | |
have experienced. I mean, it was tough and in the beginning, I was in | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
survival mode myself. It wasn't clear that the security at that time | :24:02. | :24:11. | |
would stop anything. 40 other passengers had moved into this area | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
a bit further away from the blast sites and hopefully, no one from | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
then was injured, I did have a trauma kit with me but it didn't | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
seem necessary for any work with the people who had made it there. Once | :24:27. | :24:33. | |
we were there, the doors were secured, they were thick metal | :24:34. | :24:40. | |
doors, so we just had to wait and hope nothing else happened. I think | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
the emergency services did a decent job in clearing the place, I didn't | :24:46. | :24:52. | |
see any injured people there. Richard, how does it affect you when | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
you think about travelling in the future for work or for pleasure? At | :24:56. | :25:03. | |
this point, I really haven't had a chance to abstract from the | :25:04. | :25:06. | |
situation and consider things like how I will feel about things in the | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
future. Just really lucky and grateful to have gotten out of the | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
airport and to have avoided any harm and that is pretty much primarily on | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
my mind. During this situation itself, it was trying to maintain as | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
much calm as possible and try and get through the situation level | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
headed and avoid situations where there was too much panic. That has | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
kind of been the extent of my thinking so far, just very grateful | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
to have gotten out of there and avoided any harm. I am really | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
grateful for your time, both of you. Thank you very much. Richard | :25:39. | :25:48. | |
Kalnins, an international businessman who had just arrived on | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
a flight and Will Carter, who was in the baggage area when he heard a | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
shock wave as he described it, then a second explosion and a third one. | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
We are going to talk about Jeremy Corbyn after the news and sport. | :26:04. | :26:07. | |
Should he stand down as Labour leader? He is refusing to despite | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
the crushing no-confidence vote. We'll talk to new Labour supporters | :26:11. | :26:20. | |
who joined up last year for ?3 and one who joined | :26:21. | :26:22. | |
yesterday in order to vote against Jeremy Corbyn in any | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
future leadership contest. Janet on Facebook says she would not | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
vote any of the snakes in Labour who turned against their leader. I agree | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
he hasn't got the leadership styles required to be heard but it does | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
stick to his values. Sue says what Labour need is someone who can win | :26:40. | :26:42. | |
an election and this is not Jeremy. Never trust a man who is not | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
respected by his colleagues. Sean on Facebook says Labour need to elect | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
someone who is dynamic and charismatic. It is not Labour voters | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
who are important, it is Ukip and Lib Dems and the Conservatives, the | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
ones who voted for Tony Blair. Dave says Labour needs to get rid of its | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
pampered, treacherous MPs. And if I have still got it, this from Angus | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
on Facebook... Surrey, on Twitter, he says he has just joined Labour so | :27:11. | :27:17. | |
he can vote against Jeremy Corbyn. Time for the latest news headlines | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
and here is Joanna in the BBC News headlines. | :27:23. | :27:25. | |
Thank you. At least 36 people have been known to be killed and 140 | :27:26. | :27:31. | |
injured in an attack on Istanbul's Ataturk International airport in | :27:32. | :27:33. | |
Turkey. Three suicide bombers began shooting inside and outside the | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
terminal before blowing themselves up. The Turkish Prime Minister said | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
it looked like Islamic State were behind the attack. | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
Nominations are today in the contest to replace David Cameron as leader | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
of the Conservative Party and to become the next Prime Minister. | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
Boris Johnson and Theresa May are expected to be among the candidates. | :27:56. | :27:57. | |
Yesterday the Work and Pensions Secretary Stephen Crabb announced he | :27:58. | :27:59. | |
will be running for the position. Candidates have until noon tomorrow | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
to come forward. Jeremy Corbyn is meanwhile insisting | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
that he will not resign as leader of the Labour Party, despite the large | :28:07. | :28:12. | |
majority of Labour MPs voting for a motion of in him yesterday. The | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
party looks to be heading for a leadership contest because of his | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
refusal to stand down. It's thought a challenger could come | :28:22. | :28:27. | |
forward as early as today. John McDonnell says they must play | :28:28. | :28:35. | |
by the rules. All I would say is we must play by the rules but also, | :28:36. | :28:38. | |
calm down, the country is facing some really serious risk that the | :28:39. | :28:43. | |
manner that we have a job as MPs to protect the people who might be | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
affected by that, they are largely the most vulnerable, so that is what | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
we are worried about. If there is to be a democratic election in the | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
party, that is fine, ask the MPs to play by the rules but in the | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
meantime, let's do our job and protect the interests of the | :28:58. | :28:58. | |
country. A rulebook for police working | :28:59. | :29:00. | |
undercover in England and Wales has The draft guidance bans sexual | :29:01. | :29:02. | |
relationships and says officers must The move comes ahead of a major | :29:03. | :29:12. | |
public inquiry into undercover malpractice. | :29:13. | :29:14. | |
Toyota is recalling nearly 1.5 million cars worldwide. | :29:15. | :29:16. | |
There are concerns about the safety of the air bags in some Prius | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
and Lexus hybrid models, which were first sold | :29:20. | :29:21. | |
The company said it was not aware of any injuries or deaths | :29:22. | :29:26. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :29:27. | :29:32. | |
Good morning. Wimbledon's newest home favourite Marcus Willis goes up | :29:33. | :29:46. | |
against seven time champion Roger Federer this afternoon in the second | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
round. Willis is ranked 772 in the world and almost quit the sport at | :29:52. | :29:54. | |
the start of the year before being persuaded to carry on by his | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
girlfriend. Andy Murray is also through to the | :29:58. | :30:03. | |
second round, after beating fellow Briton Liam Brody in straight sets. | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
England under 21 boss Gareth Southgate could be brought in to | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
manage the senior team temporarily until a successor for Roy Hodgson is | :30:14. | :30:20. | |
found. And the England team arrived back at Luton airport yesterday | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
after their embarrassing exit from Euro 2016, where they lost 2-1 to | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
Iceland in the last 16 on Monday night. Those are the headlines, I | :30:30. | :30:30. | |
will be back at ten o'clock. Just after 10am, we're going to be | :30:31. | :30:36. | |
discussing the race to be the next But first let's talk about Labour | :30:37. | :30:38. | |
because they too could be heading Jeremy Corbyn is still refusing | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
to quit, despite a huge majority of his own MPs yesterday backing | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
a motion of no confidence in him. It's thought a challenger could come | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
forward as early as today with the some reports | :30:50. | :30:56. | |
suggesting Angela Eagle, who resigned as Shadow Business | :30:57. | :31:03. | |
Secretary two days ago, While all that's going on, | :31:04. | :31:05. | |
the party is also agonising about why so many of its working | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
class voters, particularly across parts of the Midlands, | :31:09. | :31:11. | |
the North West and North East of England, turned their backs | :31:12. | :31:13. | |
on the party by voting to leave the EU when the Labour Party's | :31:14. | :31:16. | |
official position was to remain. In Stoke on Trent for example, | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
the majority of people there voted How much was that to do | :31:20. | :31:22. | |
with Mr Corbyn's leadership or even In a moment we'll ask some people | :31:23. | :31:27. | |
who joined Labour last year for ?3 and someone who joined yesterday | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
in order to vote against Mr Corbyn if there's | :31:32. | :31:37. | |
a leadership contest? First, though, our reporter | :31:38. | :31:38. | |
James Longman has been talking How can you support a party that | :31:39. | :31:40. | |
hasn't got strong leadership? They need to get back | :31:41. | :31:47. | |
to the values of looking after working-class people, | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
and not to be afraid of talking I think we've engaged far more | :31:51. | :31:52. | |
since Corbyn's the leader We're in the centre | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
of Stoke-on-Trent, a city that voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU, | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
but it's long been a Labour stronghold, although in recent years | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
a lot of that support has faded We're here asking people what Labour | :32:07. | :32:08. | |
can do to win them back. He kept saying, let me get a word | :32:09. | :32:15. | |
in edgeways, and nobody would. Why didn't they let you get | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
a word in edgeways? At a coffee shop in town, | :32:22. | :32:25. | |
locals discuss the crisis facing Have we got any Labour supporters | :32:26. | :32:29. | |
here? So what do you make of | :32:30. | :32:31. | |
Jeremy Corbyn? I don't think he's been given a fair | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
ride by his own Parliamentary MPs, I think, right from day one | :32:37. | :32:43. | |
he was battling against people who just didn't want him there, | :32:44. | :32:46. | |
wouldn't accept him, you know? But your co-Labour Party members, | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
other Labour voters here in Stoke, just didn't come out, | :32:52. | :32:54. | |
they didn't vote Remain, like you did and they didn't, | :32:55. | :32:56. | |
isn't that his fault? We weren't voting for Boris, | :32:57. | :32:59. | |
we weren't voting for Nigel, we weren't voting for Jeremy, | :33:00. | :33:02. | |
we were voting for what we wanted. They just happened to be the head | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
of the parties that we were voting for, or the head of the sides | :33:06. | :33:08. | |
we were voting for. So you don't think it's a Labour | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
issue, to be voting to leave? I think it's the people's voice, | :33:12. | :33:14. | |
and the people have spoken. I mean, I'm 62, but I would not | :33:15. | :33:17. | |
vote Conservative - But Conservative | :33:18. | :33:25. | |
isn't the only other So people have been leaving Labour | :33:26. | :33:31. | |
over the last ten or 20 years from Stoke - | :33:32. | :33:40. | |
what does Labour have to do to get Well, I'd agree with you, | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
they need to get back to the values of looking after working-class | :33:44. | :33:49. | |
people, and not to be afraid of talking about working-class, | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
because people who are working class are proud of where they are | :33:56. | :33:57. | |
and where they come from. Stoke has been let | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
down by the Tories. It's been let | :34:03. | :34:04. | |
down by Blair's Labour, before that, and it was even let | :34:05. | :34:06. | |
down by its own Labour council. And I can see where people | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
are coming from, they're fed up She's pretty representative | :34:12. | :34:14. | |
of what's happening here in Stoke. Can I ask you how you voted | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
in the last election? I think probably it was more | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
a protest vote, but I didn't feel as if I could vote for either | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
Labour or Conservative. Who would you have voted | :34:26. | :34:28. | |
for before that election? I've always been Labour, | :34:29. | :34:30. | |
I've always been a Labour supporter. But how can you support a party that | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
hasn't got strong leadership, and now 22 people have left | :34:34. | :34:36. | |
the Labour Party, have left, But what do you say to people | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
who say, well, maybe it's going back to its roots, | :34:40. | :34:47. | |
maybe it's going back to the Labour Party that | :34:48. | :34:49. | |
you used to support? Well, if it went back | :34:50. | :34:51. | |
to the Labour Party are used Well, if it went back | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
to the Labour Party I used to support, the days of Neil Kinnock | :34:58. | :34:59. | |
and strong voices in the Labour Party, and even going as far | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
back when I was a child, Harold Wilson, then, yes, | :35:04. | :35:05. | |
I would support the Labour Party. But at the moment, I feel as if I'm | :35:06. | :35:08. | |
giving my vote as a protest vote, I've really got more admiration | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
for David Cameron than So you voted for Ukip in the last | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
election, you voted Out. What does Labour have to do | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
to get you back? It needs to think | :35:20. | :35:25. | |
about the working man. People said that Ukip was a problem | :35:26. | :35:35. | |
that the Tories had, more than Labour, but it looks like, | :35:36. | :35:38. | |
in Stoke anyway, it's a real problem for the Labour Party | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
and they are losing voters like you. They are losing voters | :35:42. | :35:44. | |
in Stoke-on-Trent, I think, to be honest, in Stoke-on-Trent, | :35:45. | :35:46. | |
I may be out of turn saying this, but in Stoke-on-Trent, | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
people will vote Ukip. I really do I thiink | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
because they have lost I mean, I'm 60 years old, | :35:56. | :35:57. | |
I remember my nana and grandad used They used to get dressed up to go | :35:58. | :36:04. | |
and vote for Labour, Councillor Ruth Rosenau is among | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
the Labour councillors here trying New Labour was a mistake, | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
and do you not think that we've returned to our core values, | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
by bringing Corbyn in? Yes, I'm hoping that he sort | :36:19. | :36:19. | |
of like boosts up the lower classes and everything, | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
I think he's more for people... So what happened to all these Labour | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
voters who didn't come out Well, I think, if we go back | :36:27. | :36:32. | |
to the election last year, we'd lost a lot of our core | :36:33. | :36:39. | |
members, our core support. And that was down to the fact | :36:40. | :36:41. | |
that we weren't going out We've not had conversations | :36:42. | :36:44. | |
that we probably should have 20 But surely that lies | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
with Jeremy Corbyn, and that's the debate they're having | :36:48. | :36:58. | |
now, you've got to replace him maybe to make sure that you will be | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
engaging with the Labour vote. I think we've engaged far more | :37:02. | :37:03. | |
since Corbyn has been leader And I think that's why Corbyn, | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
actually, is the person For Labour faithful Ryan, | :37:07. | :37:11. | |
the disappointment is clear. I think they've got | :37:12. | :37:14. | |
the wrong bloke in charge. He should have come out and said | :37:15. | :37:20. | |
more about this referendum If you were to vote win a general | :37:21. | :37:35. | |
election tomorrow, So it doesn't matter | :37:36. | :37:46. | |
what they do, Yeah. | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
Well, my dad was always Labour, see? At the end of the day, | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
a last stop at the pub with Who do you normally vote | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
for in an election? I've not voted the last couple of | :38:03. | :38:19. | |
times because I kind of was largely But I'd definitely | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
vote Labour next time. You are probably one of the voters | :38:23. | :38:25. | |
that Labour has lost over the last ten, 20 years - | :38:26. | :38:27. | |
their vote share has been going down and down and down, why is that | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
in Stoke particularly? They've had a big problem | :38:31. | :38:33. | |
for years here. Cos a lot of people have probably | :38:34. | :38:35. | |
not seen governments doing anything But that can happen, | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
if he got his own support, you know, But now he's changed it up, | :38:39. | :38:42. | |
he's got a new front More hopeful than I was | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
in September, yeah. For many in Stoke, Corbyn | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
is still the man, a figure of protest, like their vote | :38:54. | :38:56. | |
to leave, against an establishment You're feeling more | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
hopeful about the future? Even if it takes one year, | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
two years, I'd rather suffer slightly for one or two years and be | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
in control of what you do. Well, as I mentioned, it's just two | :39:10. | :39:19. | |
days since Angela Eagle resigned After she quit, she gave | :39:20. | :39:28. | |
an emotional interview You have found this personally | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
very difficult? But I feel that I've served | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
in the best way that I Let's talk to four | :39:41. | :39:50. | |
Labour Party members. Here in the studio we've | :39:51. | :39:57. | |
got Alastair Curtis, who joined Labour last year | :39:58. | :39:59. | |
specifically to vote in Jeremy Corbyn as leader - | :40:00. | :40:00. | |
and still supports him. Huda Elmi joined Labour specifically | :40:01. | :40:02. | |
because Mr Corbyn was elected - And we have Josh Tuck, | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
who voted for Mr Corbyn at the last leadership election but doesn't | :40:07. | :40:15. | |
support him anymore and Michael Emanuel, | :40:16. | :40:17. | |
who joined Labour on Monday specifically to vote against Corbyn | :40:18. | :40:19. | |
in any upcoming leadership election. Welcome all of you. Michael, you've | :40:20. | :40:26. | |
joined up specifically to vote against him if there is a leadership | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
contest, why? Well, for me, I'm quite disappointed with Jeremy | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
Corbyn. I wholeheartedly believed in his idea of new politics and for me, | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
that seemed to last more about five Prime Minister's Questions and then | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
it evaporated. I'm disappointed with how he has acted in the referendum | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
campaign. And for me, I can, I remember seeing Tony Blair, John | :40:55. | :40:57. | |
Major, and Gordon Brown in the campaign more than I do Jeremy | :40:58. | :41:03. | |
Corbyn. He has absolutely lost my support and I don't think he is the | :41:04. | :41:06. | |
right man to take Labour forward into a general election. Alistair, | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
you think he is the right man to take Labour forward into a general | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
election. How can he win? I think, Jeremy Corbyn can win with a strong | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
ideology, a strong ideological commitment throughout the Labour | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
Party. To what? Anti-austerity. The years of New Labour represented a | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
time when we pandered to the right, we moved towards the right and we | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
lost a lot of voters, we saw in the introduce how many voters we lost by | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
the years of Blair. I think Jeremy Corbyn can win an election in the | :41:39. | :41:42. | |
next year by providing a strong ideological commitment, but the | :41:43. | :41:45. | |
support of Ukip, the support of the SNP were parties that succeeded | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
because they have an ideology that can be... You mentioned Ukip, isn't | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
Jeremy Corbyn out-of-touch? It this is what some of his detractors say. | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
On the issue of immigration he doesn't acknowledge there is anxiety | :41:59. | :42:01. | |
amongst voters about the free movement of people? Immigration, the | :42:02. | :42:07. | |
immigration issue, I feel, Jeremy's success is not out-of-touch. I think | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
that he is creating a narrative rather than submitting to one. He is | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
creating a narrative... He is not listening to Labour voters then? Not | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
at all. Some of whom are anxious about the free movement of people? | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
30% of Labour voters voted to leave the EU. Those voters had concerns | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
about immigration. 63% of Labour voters did not have concerns about | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
immigration. Labour can't win a general election without those | :42:34. | :42:36. | |
voters. Without Scotland, without the north of England? It is up to | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
Jeremy to create the argument and it is up to Jeremy to win the argument | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
and I'm sure he can. Josh, you voted for Mr Corbyn last year in the | :42:46. | :42:47. | |
leadership election. Do you support him now? No. I do not. I have | :42:48. | :42:55. | |
complete completely had' change of heart and I'm saddened and | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
disappoint, I feel he let us down. How has he let you down? He promised | :43:00. | :43:03. | |
a lot of things in terms of change and he has definitely delivered a | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
direction of change and a distance from the past which is positive. And | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
he did encourage me to get involved, however, I think to lose the backing | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
of almost all of your Parliamentary party says quite something about | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
you. I've watched him speak and I've been less than impressed in the last | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
few times and to see people like Angela Eagle who worked really hard | :43:29. | :43:31. | |
for our party in tears because he has been a let down quite frankly is | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
hurtful. Do you agree with Alistair, he does have a strong anti-austerity | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
message and that's popular with quite a number of voters? It | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
definitely is popular, however, as he pointed out with issues like | :43:45. | :43:47. | |
immigration, the two issues we were not trusted on last election were | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
the economy and immigration. Now he might win the argument on the | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
economy and I'm with him there. However, on immigration, I feel like | :43:56. | :43:58. | |
he is just not listening and I am a Labour supporter. I've got an | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
immigrant husband and I voted Remain, but I acknowledge there is a | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
massive problem with immigration and so I don't agree with Alistair on | :44:07. | :44:08. | |
that point. Does Jeremy Corbyn still speak for | :44:09. | :44:14. | |
you? Of course. I'm on the committee of Labour students and I represent a | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
lot of the members nationally. A lot of their concerns because it is a | :44:21. | :44:23. | |
terrifying time especially for ethnic minorities and we talk about | :44:24. | :44:33. | |
proimmigration stances he is proimmigration and antiracism from | :44:34. | :44:36. | |
the onset. Some people are anxious about the free movement of people? | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
Is he? He has been critical of the EU and reflected a lot of the | :44:43. | :44:47. | |
British people who are Eurosceptic obviously so because a lot voted to | :44:48. | :44:50. | |
leave and he was more in tune with the British public than a lot of the | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
Tories and Ukip. Can ask you about class if you don't mind. Who would | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
you describe yourself if I forced you to describe yourself as a member | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
of a particular class? I would describe myself as working class. I | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
come from a works class bobbing ground in Coventry. Jeremy Corbyn | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
offered an ideological alternative. I come from a Labour heartland. | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
Everybody voted Labour. Coventry voted to leave. I'm not surprised. I | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
was there voting and campaigning for the EU referendum and I found a lot | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
of people felt as though the establishment had left them. | :45:30. | :45:41. | |
Spigot Alistair? Middle-class, I come from Northamptonshire, but | :45:42. | :45:49. | |
there was a lot of support the Jeremy Farhad inks edged dignity and | :45:50. | :45:52. | |
honesty in such a clear message. We were watching the film about the | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
electorate in Stoke-on-Trent and what struck me was the number of | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
times people said "We need a strong leader," implying that Jeremy Corbyn | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
is not strong enough. Josh, I can see you nodding. Definitely. I would | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
also say I am working class and for people who are working class being | :46:15. | :46:17. | |
absolutely massively failed by this Government with the slashing public | :46:18. | :46:21. | |
services, it is imperative that we get another Labour Government and | :46:22. | :46:24. | |
Jeremy says he wants a progressive case for a Government that he would | :46:25. | :46:28. | |
do anything basically to take the Tories out. Actually, in refusing to | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
resign and blocking a progressive manifesto coming from someone else, | :46:33. | :46:37. | |
he not doing that and for people like me, who can't enjoy their life | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
under a Tory Government, and that is not being dramatic, he has been a | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
let down. Michael, you are the one who joined Labour on Monday this | :46:48. | :46:50. | |
week specifically to vote against Jeremy Corbyn in any forthcoming | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
Labour leadership contest. Does it matter to you who comes forward to | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
challenge him or is it more important that it is one person that | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
people, the Labour MPs, the majority of whom voted against Mr Corbyn in | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
the no-confidence motion, one person people can unite behind? I think it | :47:08. | :47:14. | |
is important to have somebody who commands the respect and confidence | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
of the 80% of Labour MPs who voted against Jeremy Corbyn in the motion | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
yesterday. They would that person be in your view? In my view, either | :47:23. | :47:31. | |
Angela Eagle or Tom Watson. Huda, is Jeremy Corbyn not being incredibly | :47:32. | :47:34. | |
arrogant by sticking to his position, that he will not go when | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
80% of his colleagues don't want him to be leader anymore? I think the | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
arrogant people are the MPs who are going against the will of their | :47:44. | :47:47. | |
constituencies. Angela Eagle, her constituency released a statement in | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
full support of Jeremy Corbyn. We have a disconnect between Labour MPs | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
and party membership. That you have heard some here, they don't want | :47:57. | :47:59. | |
them to be Cheryl -- Jeremy: to be leader. We have over 200,000 who | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
signed a motion of confidence, it cannot be ignored. It is something | :48:05. | :48:10. | |
MPs don't represent. Thank you so much, I appreciate all of your | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
input. Do get in touch with your own views on that particular | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
conversation. We will talk about the Conservative race for party | :48:19. | :48:19. | |
leadership after ten a.m.. For the first time, draft guidance | :48:20. | :48:22. | |
for undercover police It includes a new rule banning them | :48:23. | :48:24. | |
from having sex with anyone they're employed to infiltrate or target - | :48:25. | :48:28. | |
unless their life is threatened. Undercover officers must also be | :48:29. | :48:32. | |
psychologically assessed And taking drugs as a tactic | :48:33. | :48:34. | |
to infiltrate crime gangs Undercover policing is used | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
by forces in England and Wales to obtain evidence and intelligence, | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
and to keep the public safe As we speak, a major public inquiry | :48:46. | :48:48. | |
is under way into Since 2011, a steady stream | :48:49. | :48:53. | |
of stories alleging wrongdoing by officers working in this | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
way has emerged. Investigations found | :48:58. | :49:00. | |
some had relationships and others had used | :49:01. | :49:04. | |
the names of dead children. Mark Kennedy is a former police | :49:05. | :49:09. | |
officer who spent seven years undercover | :49:10. | :49:12. | |
infiltrating protest groups. During that time, he had more | :49:13. | :49:13. | |
than one relationship with people To be fair, the person I was in love | :49:14. | :49:19. | |
with wasn't really involved with situations where I needed | :49:20. | :49:27. | |
to pass intelligence about. But if you'd needed to, | :49:28. | :49:32. | |
would you have done it? Would your loyalty have been | :49:33. | :49:41. | |
to the police or to her? In those circumstances, | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
I don't think I would have Yes, you could say that, but I think | :49:47. | :49:48. | |
I was in a position where... I mean, she was a person | :49:49. | :49:54. | |
that was very independent, And she is a person who made | :49:55. | :49:56. | |
up her own mind about the decisions and what she wanted to do, | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
and I totally respect that. If she went on something | :50:03. | :50:07. | |
and she was arrested for it, that is very much her | :50:08. | :50:09. | |
way of doing things, and if that is what she wanted | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
to do, then she has to stand by that, and I'm sure she would, | :50:14. | :50:16. | |
as do many other people. Some campaigners said that, | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
by having this relationship, they described it as state | :50:21. | :50:26. | |
sanctioned abuse, because this woman | :50:27. | :50:31. | |
could not give informed consent because she didn't know | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
who you really were. Well, that's certainly something | :50:36. | :50:40. | |
which is being addressed by many Well, that's certainly something | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
which is being addressed by eight women who claim to have had | :50:46. | :50:47. | |
relationships with undercover But how do you feel about being | :50:48. | :50:49. | |
accused of state sanctioned abuse? I know that the relationship | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
that we had, outside of what names were, was probably one of the most | :50:55. | :50:57. | |
loving experiences I've ever had. I was lying to her about my name | :50:58. | :51:00. | |
and who I was, yes. It's very hard to know that | :51:01. | :51:07. | |
really hurt, and she's terribly upset about that, | :51:08. | :51:14. | |
and it's something which I'm still finding very hard to deal with, | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
and will for a long time to come. All I do know is that | :51:18. | :51:22. | |
what we shared, and how we shared our lives for four | :51:23. | :51:25. | |
and a half, five years, was an amazing time, | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
in the sense that we both supported each other through some | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
very difficult times It's just very sad that the way | :51:35. | :51:36. | |
and how we fell in love happened Let's talk to a woman who Mark | :51:37. | :51:56. | |
Kennedy a six-year relationship with. Lisa, it is not her real name. | :51:57. | :52:02. | |
Also, lawyer Harriet Wistrich has been | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
representing a number of the women who had been in relationships | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
with undercover police officers - some of whom have received large | :52:11. | :52:12. | |
sums in compensation And David Tucker is the College | :52:13. | :52:14. | |
of Policing crime lead. And David Tucker is | :52:15. | :52:18. | |
the College of Policing. let me start with you David Tucker. | :52:19. | :52:23. | |
Why is it they're prohibited for an undercover officer to have a sexual | :52:24. | :52:27. | |
relationship with someone they are spying on or targeting? It is | :52:28. | :52:31. | |
important to say first that the College of policing has been | :52:32. | :52:35. | |
targeted to drive up the professional standards and this is | :52:36. | :52:38. | |
part of the process. Undercover policing is a legitimate and a legal | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
tactic and undertaken by very brave officers on a very day -- on a daily | :52:43. | :52:48. | |
basis and they are there to protect the public and bring criminals and | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
terrorists to justice. But not legitimate to have sex with someone | :52:53. | :52:56. | |
you are spying on unless your life is threatened? The guidance is very | :52:57. | :53:00. | |
clear, around a standard we are setting as the College of national | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
policing, that sexual relationships can never be authorised as a tactic | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
and if it should happen, it must be reported and investigated but we | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
must be really, really clear. It should never happen, it can never be | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
authorised and when it does happen, it is wrong. What the guidance says | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
is it must never happen, it should never happen, it will never be | :53:23. | :53:26. | |
authorised, but you can do it if you think your life is threatened. Yes, | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
there are certain circumstances which may lead somebody to feel bad | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
that is necessary. Can you give me some scenarios? I think that is | :53:36. | :53:40. | |
really difficult because it would change from circumstance to | :53:41. | :53:46. | |
circumstance. Give me one example. Ridiculously, if someone had a gun | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
pointed to their head. It is ridiculous, in your own words. But | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
we don't rule it out because there are circumstances in which this | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
could possibly happen and it is important that officers act with | :54:00. | :54:02. | |
necessity and rely on personal judgment, but we give them very | :54:03. | :54:06. | |
clear guidance. I am trying to imagine this scenario. An undercover | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
officer, man or woman, has a gun put to their head and the person they | :54:12. | :54:15. | |
are spying on says have sex with me or I am going to shoot you? It | :54:16. | :54:20. | |
sounds ridiculous but there are circumstances where perhaps a | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
criminal may wish to set up a circumstance like that to try and | :54:25. | :54:27. | |
bloodshed somebody who they may think is an undercover officer and | :54:28. | :54:32. | |
we need to make sure the guidance we give is realistic and able to | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
protect the officers and public -- flush out somebody. We need to make | :54:37. | :54:39. | |
sure the legal and ethical frameworks under which undercover | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
policing is delivered is really robust but focused on protecting the | :54:46. | :54:47. | |
public and bringing criminals to justice. Lisa is one of those who | :54:48. | :54:53. | |
was spied upon and had a six-year relationship with an undercover | :54:54. | :54:56. | |
officer. Lisa, are you reassured by this new guidance? Not hugely. I | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
think what is good about this guidance is that the world of | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
undercover policing has come at an elite been completely opaque for | :55:09. | :55:14. | |
years and years, we have known nothing about it -- has been | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
completely opaque. The fact that Dell publishing some information is | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
good but at the end of the day, they are still voluntary guidelines with | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
a get out Clause you just talked about. To my mind, that is not good | :55:26. | :55:33. | |
enough, it is not legally binding. Can you just explain to our audience | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
the impact on you of having an intimate relationship with an | :55:39. | :55:42. | |
undercover officer who you didn't realise was an undercover officer | :55:43. | :55:46. | |
for a number of years and then discovering that it had been alive? | :55:47. | :55:54. | |
I don't know if I can quickly explained the devastation that is | :55:55. | :55:57. | |
caused by that kind of situation. It is not something I had never | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
encountered before and not something I hope to encounter again. It has | :56:02. | :56:07. | |
left me utterly devastated. It is quite difficult to talk about it | :56:08. | :56:11. | |
after hearing his voice talk about our relationship in that way. It is | :56:12. | :56:19. | |
like a bereavement, except it is not that your partner doesn't exist any | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
more. It's that they never existed in the first place and the kind of | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
hole that that lives right in the centre of your being is really hard | :56:29. | :56:33. | |
to fill and that is something that will take years. Harriet, thank you | :56:34. | :56:39. | |
for talking to us, you represent a number of women who have been in | :56:40. | :56:42. | |
relationships with undercover officers. What you think of this new | :56:43. | :56:48. | |
guidance? An officer is banned from having a sexual relationship with | :56:49. | :56:51. | |
someone they are spying on or targeting unless they are is | :56:52. | :56:56. | |
threatened. I think Lisa has said it all in a way and you very | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
pertinently asked the question, in what circumstances are there where | :57:02. | :57:08. | |
somebody could have a risk to their life where they had to have sex? It | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
is really absurd and I don't know what they need is to have that | :57:13. | :57:16. | |
written into the guidance because it seems to offer a potential left out. | :57:17. | :57:22. | |
If it is enshrined in law and it is against the law to have sex and a | :57:23. | :57:26. | |
sexual relationship, you would still have a defence in law if you were | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
prosecuted and there really was such a scenario. I cannot actually | :57:33. | :57:37. | |
imagine what scenario that would be, but I think it... I don't think it | :57:38. | :57:44. | |
needs that exception to be put in the guidance, because I think it | :57:45. | :57:51. | |
leaves something open. What is quite interesting is at the time when the | :57:52. | :57:55. | |
women raised this issue in the first place, there was a confused response | :57:56. | :57:59. | |
from chief officers and I remember the policing minister at the time | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
saying we can't rule it out because there might be circumstances where | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
it could happen and I think really there needs to be a very clear | :58:08. | :58:12. | |
criminal sanction against any such sexual relationships taking place, | :58:13. | :58:18. | |
so that it is spelled-out. That doesn't mean to say there won't be a | :58:19. | :58:23. | |
defence in law, but I think it is to be enshrined in law, not just in | :58:24. | :58:28. | |
guidance, but obviously, it is welcome that there is now something | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
that is now spelt out in guidance at the very least. David Tucker, as | :58:33. | :58:37. | |
both laser and Harriet have pointed out, this is not enforceable -- Lisa | :58:38. | :58:43. | |
and Harriet. It is not against the law. What is the sanction for an | :58:44. | :58:47. | |
officer who does have sex with someone they are spying on and there | :58:48. | :58:54. | |
is no legitimate threat? We set the standards and we do have the power | :58:55. | :58:57. | |
to set codes of practice, that is the limit of our powers, but even | :58:58. | :59:03. | |
then, the law says that chief officers must have regard to those | :59:04. | :59:08. | |
guidance, and that is the same with this, it sets the standards, chief | :59:09. | :59:12. | |
officers must take this into account when they are making their decisions | :59:13. | :59:16. | |
and if things happen that go outside that guidance, they will have do | :59:17. | :59:22. | |
explain that. What sort of sanctions are available to chief constables? | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
This guidance is one part of the framework of controls and | :59:28. | :59:31. | |
regulations. I am asking what sanctions are available if an | :59:32. | :59:33. | |
undercover officer has sex with someone they shouldn't have? There | :59:34. | :59:39. | |
is the potential for disciplinary procedures to happen and the | :59:40. | :59:42. | |
opposite could lose their job, but the college policing is not the only | :59:43. | :59:47. | |
body that works here. We have an independent body and also the | :59:48. | :59:51. | |
investigatory Powers Tribunal, where people can appeal if they feel | :59:52. | :59:56. | |
covert tactics have been used by any public body in an inappropriate way. | :59:57. | :59:59. | |
We are trying to set the standards for policing said the public can | :00:00. | :00:03. | |
have confidence about the standards the College of policing is setting | :00:04. | :00:07. | |
for policing and people can see the guidance and give feedback and we | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
would be pleased to hear from the public around what they feel the | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
guidelines state and whether they can be improved. This is a six-week | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
consultation. Thank you very much, all of you. David Tucker, Harriet | :00:20. | :00:30. | |
and Lisa. Not her real name, she was in a relationship for six years with | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
Mark Kennedy, an undercover officer who went under the name Mark Stone. | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
Time for the weather and here is John. When a summer arriving? | :00:40. | :00:46. | |
Do you really want another forecast? Time to look away. | :00:47. | :00:53. | |
There is no prospect of anything remotely summer-like in the next | :00:54. | :01:00. | |
week or so. Yes, this is the sort of temperature range which we should be | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
seeing at the moment. Up to the low 20s in a good few places. Instead, | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
we're more like the mid-teens across the country through today and some | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
places, you know, will struggle to get above 10 or 11 Celsius with a | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
lot more rain piling in from the west. It is raining across western | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
areas. That's going to sweep its way across the country. Bad news for | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
Wimbledon, of course, it will clear up overnight. A fat lot of good that | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
is, yes through the small hours of the night it will be dry basically. | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
Just the odd shower across Scotland. It will be a cool one. A fresh start | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
tomorrow. Tomorrow, actually a better day. There will be more dry | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
weather and less rain, but we will see some showery bursts pushing | :01:44. | :01:45. | |
across the country. It is difficult to nail down the detail, but expect | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
rain at some stage through tomorrow, but a better day on balance, but it | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
won't feel much warmer. Temperatures below par, mid to high teens and it | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
stays showery right the way through to the weekend as well. | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
Turkish officials blame Islamic State for the attack on Istanbul's | :02:09. | :02:24. | |
Airport. The biggest jobs in politics are up | :02:25. | :02:32. | |
for grabs. Today we'll find out | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
who plans to run for Prime Minister, while more pressure mounts on Labour | :02:37. | :02:38. | |
leader Jeremy Corbyn to stand down. As MPs meet to discuss the rise | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
in racism since the referendum vote. We'll be speaking to Muslims | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
and hearing first hard the abuse they've experience | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
since last Friday. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
with a summary of today's news. Our top story today, | :02:54. | :03:01. | |
Terror in Turkey, at least 36 people are now known | :03:02. | :03:03. | |
to have been killed and more than 140 injured in an attack | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
on Istanbul's Ataturk International Three suicide bombers began shooting | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
inside and outside the terminal, The Turkish Prime Minister said it | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
looked like Islamic State was behind the attack, | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
as Tom Donkin reports. Ataturk Airport this morning, debris | :03:18. | :03:29. | |
was being cleared as investigators examined the scene of last night's | :03:30. | :03:37. | |
attack. Keep down. Keep down. This was the panic in the departure area | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
as three attackers carried out a co-ordinated gun and bomb attack, | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
killing dozens and injuring many more. The three began shooting | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
inside and outside the departure area. One was shot by police before | :03:52. | :03:58. | |
detonating his bomb. Two other explosions, also believed to be | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
suicide bombers, took place. TRANSLATION: They were shooting at | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
the police and the police were shooting at them. Someone next to us | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
got shot. Then we saw the bomb and the x-ray machine explode. Everybody | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
around it died in that blast. This is one of Europe's busiest | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
airports. 61 million people used it last year. It was always seen as a | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
vulnerable target for terrorists, despite tight security. The Turkish | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
Prime Minister blamed this attack on so-called Islamic State. | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
TRANSLATION: The first findings from our security officials are that the | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
terrorist attack was carried out by Daesh. But the investigation is | :04:41. | :04:47. | |
ongoing. The airport is now functional again. This attack, on | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
Istanbul's main airport, is the latest in a wave of bombings in | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
Istanbul and the capital ks Ankara that killed 200 people in the last | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
few months. They have been linked to Islamic State or Kurdish | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
separatists. Today Ataturk Airport reopened, but a third of flights | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
have been cancelled. Security has been stepped up and the British | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
Government has warned further attacks in Turkey or likely and may | :05:15. | :05:16. | |
target places visited by foreigners. Richard Kalnins is a businessman | :05:17. | :05:24. | |
who had just arrived on an international flight | :05:25. | :05:26. | |
when the airport was attacked. He described the panic | :05:27. | :05:28. | |
and confusion that he witnessed. We were headed towards the passport | :05:29. | :05:39. | |
control area in the airport when people started shouting and running | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
towards us. People were screaming that there had been a bomb and | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
screaming about gunfire. I turned around and started running the | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
opposite direction. It was that of panic. That of chaos, people falling | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
on the ground. The crowd moved into a corner that ended up being a | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
dead-end which led to a lot of panic. People didn't know what to | :06:02. | :06:02. | |
do. Nominations open today | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
in the contest to replace David Cameron as leader | :06:06. | :06:06. | |
of the Conservative Party and become Boris Johnson and Theresa May | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
are expected to be Yesterday, the Work | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
and Pensions Secretary Stephen Crabb announced he will be running | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
for the position. Candidates have until noon | :06:16. | :06:17. | |
tomorrow to come forward. The kaedation second, nishgy Morgan | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
says she is considering running. Jeremy Corbyn is insisting | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
that he won't resign as leader of the Labour party - | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
despite a large majority of Labour MPs voting for a motion of no | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
confidence in him yesterday. The party looks to be heading | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
for a leadership contest because of his refusal | :06:40. | :06:41. | |
to stand down. It's thought a challenger could come | :06:42. | :06:43. | |
forward as early as today. Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
an ally of Jeremy Corbyn, has insisted today that Labour Mps | :06:49. | :06:50. | |
must play by the rules. All I would say is we must play | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
by the rules but also, we need to calm down, | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
the country is facing some really serious risks at the moment | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
and we have a job as MPs to protect the people who might | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
be affected by that. They are largely the most | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
vulnerable, so that's If there is to be a democratic | :07:10. | :07:11. | |
election in the party, that is fine, ask the MPs to play by the rules | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
but in the meantime, let's do our job and protect | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
the interests of the country. Scotland's First Minister Nicola | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
Sturgeon will meet the president of the European Commission, | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
Jean-Claude Juncker, this afternoon in Brussels, | :07:26. | :07:26. | |
to discuss what kind of relationship Scotland might have with the EU | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
after the UK voted to leave. After meeting the European | :07:30. | :07:31. | |
Parliament President, Martin Schultz, she said that | :07:32. | :07:33. | |
Scotland was determined A television advert | :07:34. | :07:35. | |
for the anti-inflammatory drug Nurofen has been banned for falsely | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
claiming that it could specifically 18 people complained that the advert | :07:41. | :07:42. | |
for Nurofen Joint and Back appeared to show the drug travelling | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
to specific centres of pain The Advertising Standards Authority | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
said viewers were likely to infer that it had a special ingredient | :07:50. | :07:55. | |
or mechanism that specifically sought out sources of pain | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
rather than being just Scotty Moore, the pioneering rock | :07:58. | :07:59. | |
guitarist who was a member of Elvis Presley's original band, | :08:00. | :08:07. | |
has died at the age of 84. Friends say Moore died in Nashville | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
after several months of poor health. He's credited with helping Elvis | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
shape his fresh blend of blues, gospel and country that came | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
to be called rock'n'roll. Some even describe him | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
as the musician who helped That's a summary of | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
the latest BBC News. Thanks for your messages about the | :08:27. | :08:41. | |
Labour Party. On whatsapp, this viewer doesn't leave their name. | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
"There is no one in the Labour Party that can win a general election. | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
Corbyn cannot reach out and connect with enough people to win an | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
election. Even if all the Labour voters voted for Labour in a general | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
election, that wouldn't be enough. They need to penetrate the Tory vote | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
and Ukip too. The best Corbyn can do is maintain the current support." | :08:59. | :09:05. | |
This tweet from Jane, "I'm disappointed in Angela Eagle, she is | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
the Labour MP who it is reported is going to challenge Jeremy Corbyn for | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
the Labour leadership. ." This tweet from another viewer, "Jeremy is the | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
choice of the members. He is the only person to offer an alternative | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
that will bring voters back to us." This from John, "I cannot believe | :09:25. | :09:31. | |
the lack of strong personalities in the Labour Party, leaderless, | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
rudderless and weak." Keep your comments coming in. | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
He could be the most popular Englishman in sport at the moment. | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
This man, Marcus Willis, has shot to fame after | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
winning his opening match at Wimbledon on Monday. | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
He's ranked 772 in the world and today he faces a dream tie | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
against seven-time champion Roger Federer. | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
He's earned about ?200 so far this year, but is now guaranteed at least | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
To put that into perspective, Federer has pocketed more | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
Willis was going to quit at the end of the year, but his girlfriend | :10:04. | :10:20. | |
persuaded him to carry on. Along with Willis, Andy Murray made | :10:21. | :10:22. | |
it through to the second round too. In the battle of the Brits, Murray | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
made light work of Liam Broady. The world number two Murray saw off | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
the world number 235 on Centre Court, in the first | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
all-British meeting at Wimbledon Britain's other number one | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
Johanna Konta's first match She's a set up against | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
Puerto Rico's Monica Pweeg. Britain's number four though, | :10:39. | :10:46. | |
Tara Moore, is already through. The fall-out from England's | :10:47. | :10:48. | |
embarrassing exit from the Euros The latest is that Gareth Southgate, | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
the England under-21 boss, could take over the senior team | :10:55. | :11:01. | |
temporarily, while the FA looks for a long-term successor for Roy | :11:02. | :11:03. | |
Hodgson. Hodgson resigned on Monday | :11:04. | :11:05. | |
after England's 2-1 loss to Iceland. The weather, quite fittingly, | :11:06. | :11:13. | |
grey and miserable. Hodgson, somewhat reluctantly, spoke | :11:14. | :11:15. | |
to the media before the flight. He said there were no "magic | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
answers" to explain One particularly bad game has caused | :11:23. | :11:36. | |
a lot of damage to me personally, to the team, and even to the team going | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
forward because now they've got a major bridge to repair had we played | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
better last night would maybe not need repairing. | :11:49. | :11:51. | |
Let's turn our attention to the last remaining Home Nation | :11:52. | :11:53. | |
They play their quarter final against Belgium on Friday, | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
but at a press conference yesterday they faced questions on this video | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
that has emerged on social media - where they are enthusiastically | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
celebrating that Iceland victory over England. | :12:03. | :12:03. | |
Full-back Chris Gunter tried to explain the players reaction. | :12:04. | :12:13. | |
I think if you asked the squad as whole, maybe it is a selfish point | :12:14. | :12:20. | |
of view, there would be, Wales are proud to be the last home nations | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
team left in the tournament. We've come such a long way and football | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
has a funny way of bringing out emotions as we have seen, you know, | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
when we played them a couple of weeks ago. But it certainly wasn't | :12:35. | :12:36. | |
meant to come across in that way. Wales and Belgium live | :12:37. | :12:45. | |
on BBC One on Friday, We will talk to more people caught | :12:46. | :13:01. | |
up in the bomb and gun attack in Turkey. | :13:02. | :13:03. | |
Any Tory MP who wants to be the next Conservative leader - | :13:04. | :13:06. | |
and next Prime Minister - has just over 24 hours left | :13:07. | :13:09. | |
They need to be nominated by two other MPs to get | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
If there are three or more candidates, a ballot or series | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
of ballots will be held of all the party's 331 MPs | :13:18. | :13:19. | |
After that, there's a vote of the wider party, | :13:20. | :13:26. | |
all Conservative members will have a say. | :13:27. | :13:28. | |
It's that vote that will choose the winner. | :13:29. | :13:30. | |
So far we know Boris Johnson and Theresa May are standing, | :13:31. | :13:40. | |
and today the Work and Pensions Secretary a man called | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
Stephen Crabb has thrown his hat into the ring. | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
Let's talk to Norman at Westminster. | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
Who is Stephen Crabb? He is the Work and Pensions Secretary. He is | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
pitching himself as the blue collar Tory, trying to appeal to less | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
affluent working class Tories. He points to his success when he was | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
Welsh Secretary and the Tories doing better than they've done for years | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
in Wales which is not traditional Tory | :14:13. | :14:13. | |
PROBLEM WITH SOUND I have got a list. There are eight, | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
eight potential contenders which makes them well, makes them the | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
fourth biggest party in Parliament at the moment, bigger than the Lib | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
Dems. Let me run through them, Boris Johnson, you mentioned, Theresa May, | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
Stephen Crabb, Jeremy Hunt the Health Secretary he is standing as | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
the sort of go slow candidate on Brexit. He wants to have a second | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
referendum on Brexit and Andrea Led some, she is one of the leading | :14:40. | :14:42. | |
Leave campaigners and did well in the TV debates. She got a lot of | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
kudos for the way she handled the TV debates and Nicki Morgan, the | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
Education Secretary. She is pitching herself as the sort of Tory who will | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
take the party out of its ideological comfort zone. She | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
doesn't want the party to lurch to the right. Liam Fox, former Defence | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
Secretary, we mention mentioned him yesterday. He is pitching himself as | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
the Brexit candidate who is not as divisive as Boris Johnson. Lastly, a | :15:10. | :15:15. | |
backbencher called John Baron. He campaigned for Britain to leave the | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
EU for yongs and he is the man who says we'll make sure the Tory Party | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
delivers on Brexit. Now, a lot of them have been out and about this | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
morning. I kind of think the most interesting person I've spoken to is | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
the Education Secretary, Nicki Morgan because of what she is | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
saying. It probably won't help her get elected, but two things that | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
leapt out at me, one, she thinks if the wake of the Brexit vote, many | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
younger voters frankly feel cheesed off and she is says there is a need | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
for the Conservative Party to make a big offer to them. So she favours | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
votes for 16 and 17-year-olds and she thinks the Tory Party needs to | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
have a grown-up debate on immigration and that the way the | :15:57. | :16:04. | |
Leave campaign pitched itself on immigration in her words, "Unleashed | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
unacceptable forces in society." Let's have a listen. | :16:08. | :16:17. | |
Element of the Leave Campaign have unleashed are emboldened elements we | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
are seeing now in society and it is shameful, that is not what Britain | :16:24. | :16:29. | |
is about, it is about tolerance and we had to make a positive case for | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
image Gration -- immigration. It is not just about tolerance, it is not | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
just about numbers, and as Education Secretary, I was talking about | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
British values in schools. Over the next 40 hours, Boris Johnson, Mark | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
one, the socially liberal London Mayor Boris Johnson re-emerging and | :16:51. | :16:57. | |
Boris Johnson Mark two, the populist Brexit leader going to the side and | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
he will be making a conscious pitch to reach out to one Nation Tories, | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
so figures like Nicholas Soames, who spent much of a campaign beating | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
Boris around the head, they say they are now going to support him. Even | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
leading you remain campaigners, figures like Liz truss, pictured | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
next to George Osborne with his dossier of doom, she was right up | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
there with George Osborne, saying she is going to throw in her lot | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
with Boris Johnson and I put it to her, hang on a sec, a few weeks ago, | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
you were saying a few weeks ago that Boris Johnson would lead us to | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
disaster and cost households thousands of money and now you are | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
saying we should support him, how is that possible? I believe that we | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
should listen to the British public. They have been very clear in | :17:45. | :17:51. | |
expressing their view of what the future of our relationship with the | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
EU European Union looks like. I argued the pet case passionately -- | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
the case passionately, they argued their case passionately and the | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
Leeds side won and we now have two have someone leading the | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
deliberations so we deliver them. Stephen Crabb, who we mentioned as | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
another of the Remain campaigners is going on a joint ticket with | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
another, Sajid Javid, the Business Secretary, said they are tilting | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
against the forces of Brexit but they think they can still succeed in | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
pitching for the leadership, because, in their view, the public | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
have spoken and now everyone has got to be in effect a Brexiteer, that | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
was the message this morning from Sajid Javid. The decision clearly | :18:37. | :18:43. | |
has been made and the instructions to Government, to Parliament, have | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
been issued, and that is the job of the next Government, to implement | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
that. There will be no going back on that decision, there is no second | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
referendum and it is all about implementation and who are the best | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
team to get this done. So there is no distinction anymore between | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
someone was a Brexiteer or a Remain Campaigner, in a sense we are now | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
all Brexiteers and we need to come together with the right leadership | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
to implement the people's decision. And we used the term "One nation | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
Conservative" I think I remember Ed Miliband talking about a one Nation | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
Labour but it doesn't necessarily feel like we are one nation after | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
the referendum vote. What does it mean? It is an historical Tory term | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
that goes all the way back to Disraeli in the 19th century when he | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
wanted to recast the Conservative Party as not just the party of the | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
rich and the landlords, he wanted to reach out to the whole of society, | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
so it has become a sort of symbol for a more inclusive sort of | :19:46. | :19:48. | |
Conservative Party. Now, everyone talks about one Nation Toryism, | :19:49. | :19:56. | |
because it is better to be inclusive rather than divisive, but in the | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
wake of the Brexit campaign, there is a real imperative that whoever is | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
going to take over as obviously got to try and bring the nation together | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
in the wake of what I think most people acknowledge as being a | :20:08. | :20:10. | |
profoundly, profoundly divisive campaign. So they are all going to | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
talk one Nation because that is the sort of name of the game now and | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
trying to repair some of the divisions and disharmony and | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
acrimony created by the Brexit referendum. Thank you very much, | :20:24. | :20:24. | |
Norman. Let's talk to two people who did | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
decide to try and become Mark Oaten stood to be | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
the Liberal Democrat leader in 2006, but withdrew from the race | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
because of a lack of support. A couple of days later, | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
the News of the World reported he'd Natalie Bennett has been the leader | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
of the Green Party for four years, but announced in May | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
that she will be standing Thank you both of you for coming on | :20:48. | :20:57. | |
the programme. I want to talk to you about what you have do take into | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
account before you put your name forward. Mark, what are the top five | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
things you have to consider? The things you should consider are | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
probably a very set of organised, rational arguments. In reality, it | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
is other things that get in the way. There is certainly an element of ego | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
you start reading about your name in the newspaper, colleagues, due you | :21:20. | :21:25. | |
suddenly get this attention -- colleagues come up to you. That is | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
not a good reason to do the job. You look at who will back you, you are | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
taking calculations and judgments, you look at what the bookies are | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
saying and it is all of these factors. You are worn out and | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
exhausted and making very, very bad decisions, probably based on | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
irrational reasons. What about, thinking about the scrutiny, your | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
family and work/life balance? I think you will talk to family and | :21:51. | :21:53. | |
obviously make to want -- want to make sure they are comfortable with | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
it but it is very hard for family and friends to give you an honest | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
reply because they are also getting wrapped up in it, they are being | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
taught to by their friends, "Your partner is running the leader, what | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
a great idea." So everybody gets wrapped up in a bubble and it is | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
difficult for somebody to sit down and say don't be so crazy, this is a | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
hugely bad idea. Natalie Bennett, did anybody sit you down and say | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
don't be so crazy when you put yourself forward to be leaders of | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
the greens -- a leader of the Greens? It was a different party | :22:24. | :22:29. | |
then, we had 30,000 members and we now have 60,000. The scrutiny levels | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
for the job was very different to how it became. What did you take | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
into account? I had a lovely plan to have a lovely leisurely here writing | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
a book having just taken voluntary redundancy of from the Guardian | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
weekly, and then Caroline Lucas said she was not freestanding filleted | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
and I knew immediately people would ask me to stand. How did you know? | :22:54. | :23:00. | |
Is it because you had a big ego? Well, it turned out to be true, it | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
was just a reflection. I had to be persuaded. Why did you have to be | :23:06. | :23:12. | |
persuaded? I had a life plan to go in one direction but then I saw this | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
challenge and I thought I could see what the Green Party could become, | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
what the possibilities are and what our place in British politics should | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
be and I think I have a plan to do that and it wasn't so much me as a | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
personality I was thinking about, it was how do we use this post and the | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
job as leader? For me, it is what is your mission? One of the interesting | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
question about the Tories, why are they doing this, personal ambition | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
or a project they want to achieve? A bit of both. Mark, why did you pull | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
out of the leadership race? I wasn't enjoying it, I knew I couldn't win | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
and it was something I was feeling uncomfortable with. I was finding | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
journalists outside my house from five in the morning through until | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
the evening. Were you surprised by that? I was totally naive and | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
surprised that the interest. You can be a junior spokesman or a | :24:06. | :24:09. | |
spokesman, but the minute you run for leader, the whole rules of | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
engagement change and the scrutiny becomes so much higher and the | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
intense interest in you becomes higher and it is scary. Let's talk | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
about the intensity and you became the subject of a News of the World | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
story afterwards. What happened? My phone was hacked, and it was all | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
over the newspapers, I was having an affair. So it was after you pulled | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
out? I guess they were waiting to see my market value went up, it was | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
intense scrutiny, house was surrounded but I bought it on | :24:42. | :24:48. | |
myself. -- brought it on myself. You then went on Newsnight at their came | :24:49. | :24:51. | |
out and let's listen to what you said. | :24:52. | :24:53. | |
I think I have learned a lot more about why I and other politicians go | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
off the rails. The first is the kind of people politicians are, what is | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
it in our DNA that makes us take risks? And the second factor is the | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
building itself, Westminster. It is unreal. You take the politician and | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
put themselves into the own real world. The third missing element is | :25:12. | :25:14. | |
you are in the public eye and the tabloid press are looking to catch | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
you out. And this creates a time bomb ticking away. Some survive it, | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
others don't and I am one of the ones that didn't. Was standing the | :25:25. | :25:31. | |
worst experience of your life? At the time, yes, but ten years on, you | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
look back and it is important you don't regret things and one of the | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
reasons candidates now will be making a judgment as to whether or | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
stand -- to stand or not is the slight fear that if they don't, they | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
will regret it for the rest of their lives. It will scratch away at them, | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
should I have stood? It is a human calculation and despite all the | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
politics and passion about what you believe in, this is ultimately an | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
individual, private decision that individuals take and lots of factors | :25:59. | :26:01. | |
way outside of politics will be on their minds. Any regrets about your | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
time as leader of the Greens? Absolutely not. When I look back and | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
Pat how far the party has come, the wonderful experiences I had, | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
travelling around the country, going to projects... What has been the | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
worst bit? Obviously the media scrutiny and the election campaign. | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
Will you forgive me if I play the LBC interview? What we are looking | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
at in terms of the figures here, what we need to do is actually... We | :26:35. | :26:43. | |
are looking at a total spending of two points 7 billion. How are you | :26:44. | :26:50. | |
going to play -- pay for the land? What we are looking at doing is | :26:51. | :26:56. | |
basically... SHE COUGHS. Are OK? As you can | :26:57. | :27:04. | |
probably hear, I have a huge cold. How do you reflect on that now? I | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
made a mistake that morning that I shouldn't be there, I was in a unfit | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
condition and the error will follow me around for the rest of my life | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
and I am resigned to the fact, but the general public, when I meet | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
people, it is not what they talk about or raise. People understand | :27:24. | :27:26. | |
the Green Party's policies, values and principles and they appreciate | :27:27. | :27:29. | |
the fact that we have been putting them forward with increasing | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
strength and that is what the general public is thinking. The | :27:35. | :27:36. | |
general public are thinking about bigger things and bigger issues, | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
particularly when we think about the state of the country at the moment. | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
The issues are people want to hear honest voices presenting real | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
choices. One word of advice, if you would be so bold, to anybody | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
thinking of standing for the Tory party leadership or potentially the | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
Labour Party leadership? Put yourself in a room, with no advice, | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
for ten minutes and really figure it out without anyone telling you what | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
to do. Thank you very much. Still to come, as England licks its wounds | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
after being knocked out of Euro 2016, who should replace Roy Hodgson | :28:12. | :28:12. | |
as England's next manager? Since last Thursday's referendum | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
vote, you'll probably have heard the term, | :28:17. | :28:18. | |
"Article 50" hundreds of times. Article 50 refers to the moment | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
we trigger the beginning of our exit As soon as we press the button, | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
then the UK has two years Now divorce is on the cards, | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
what happens next? Well, it could be messy, | :28:34. | :28:43. | |
and it could take some time. First things first - | :28:44. | :28:45. | |
remember that deal David Cameron I believe that this is enough for me | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
to recommend that the United Kingdom Well, forget that, it's | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
completely off the table. Instead, we'll be hearing | :28:56. | :29:01. | |
a lot about this. When the Article 50 | :29:02. | :29:03. | |
process is triggered... Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty sets | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
out how a country can leave the EU. It gives a deadline - | :29:10. | :29:14. | |
two years to negotiate a break-up, and that's it, though it can | :29:15. | :29:21. | |
be extended if all 27 Once the wheels are in motion, | :29:22. | :29:23. | |
the UK is not allowed to take part We would then have 24 | :29:24. | :29:30. | |
months to negotiate The key questions - | :29:31. | :29:37. | |
what taxes and restrictions, if any, will our goods and services face, | :29:38. | :29:46. | |
what will happen to EU workers inside the UK, | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
and what happens to the 1.2 million British citizens living | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
in other European countries? At the same time, we can start | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
to disentangle 40 years of EU law from our own British law, | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
so for example many environmental regulations and consumer rights | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
were written in Brussels - Who's going to be in | :30:07. | :30:10. | |
charge of all this? Well, here's the thing - | :30:11. | :30:16. | |
we haven't officially said we want to use Article 50 yet, | :30:17. | :30:18. | |
so that clock hasn't started ticking, and it's very unlikely that | :30:19. | :30:22. | |
will happen until we get a new Prime Minister in September, | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
or even until elections in France and Germany | :30:27. | :30:29. | |
are out of the way in 2017. When it does all start, | :30:30. | :30:35. | |
expect some intense negotiations Many people think full Brexit | :30:36. | :30:38. | |
is unlikely to happen before Jeremy You can find that film on our | :30:39. | :30:43. | |
programme page. Still to come, we will talk to | :30:44. | :31:06. | |
someone who escaped the terror attack in Turkey. That to come in | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
the next 30 minutes. Someone who was actually at the airport and changed | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
their travel plans at the last minute. | :31:15. | :31:19. | |
With the news, here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom. | :31:20. | :31:22. | |
At least 36 people are now known to have been killed and more | :31:23. | :31:25. | |
than 140 injured in an attack on Istanbul's Ataturk | :31:26. | :31:28. | |
Three suicide bombers began shooting inside and outside the terminal, | :31:29. | :31:31. | |
The Turkish Prime Minister said it looked like Islamic State | :31:32. | :31:35. | |
Nominations are opening in the contest to replace | :31:36. | :31:46. | |
David Cameron as leader of the Conservative Party and become | :31:47. | :31:48. | |
Boris Johnson and Theresa May are expected to be | :31:49. | :31:51. | |
Yesterday, the Work and Pensions Secretary Stephen Crabb | :31:52. | :31:54. | |
announced he will be running for the position | :31:55. | :31:56. | |
and the Education Secretary Nicky Morgan is also | :31:57. | :31:58. | |
Candidates have until noon tomorrow to declare. | :31:59. | :32:04. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is insisting that he won't resign as leader | :32:05. | :32:10. | |
of the Labour Party despite a large majority of Labour MPs | :32:11. | :32:12. | |
voting for a motion of no confidence in him yesterday. | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
The party looks to be heading for a leadership contest | :32:16. | :32:17. | |
because of his refusal to stand down. | :32:18. | :32:19. | |
It's thought a challenger could come forward as early as today. | :32:20. | :32:22. | |
Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, an ally of Jeremy Corbyn, | :32:23. | :32:24. | |
has insisted today that Labour MPs must play by the rules. | :32:25. | :32:38. | |
A rule book for police working undercover in England and Wales has | :32:39. | :32:46. | |
been published. It bans sexual relations and says there must be | :32:47. | :32:50. | |
regular scik tritesting. Lisa, not her real name, | :32:51. | :32:57. | |
had a six year relationship with Mark Kennedy while he was | :32:58. | :32:59. | |
working as an undercover officer. It was like a bereavement except it | :33:00. | :33:10. | |
is not that your partner doesn't exist anymore, it is that they never | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
existed in the first place and the kind of hole that leaves right in | :33:15. | :33:19. | |
the centre of your being is really, really hard to fill and that's | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
something that's going to take years to come, I think. | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
Toyota is recalling nearly 1.5 million cars worldwide. | :33:27. | :33:28. | |
There are concerns about the safety of the air bags in some Prius | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
and Lexus hybrid models which were first sold | :33:33. | :33:34. | |
The company said it was not aware of any injuries or deaths | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
A summary of the latest news, join me for BBC | :33:39. | :33:48. | |
Here's the day's main sport stories now with Jessica. | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
Wimbledon's newest home favourite Marcus Willis goes up against seven | :33:54. | :33:59. | |
time champion Roger Federer this afternoon in the second round. | :34:00. | :34:01. | |
Willis is ranked 772 in the world and almost quit the sport | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
at the start of the year before being persuaded to carry | :34:07. | :34:08. | |
Andy Murray is also through to the second round. | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
He'll play Yen Sun Lu of China after being fellow | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
England under-21 boss Gareth Southgate could be | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
the senior team temporarily until a successor for | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
The England team arrived back in Luton Airport yesterday | :34:26. | :34:35. | |
after their embarrassing exit from Euro 2016. | :34:36. | :34:36. | |
They lost 2-1 to Iceland in the last 16 on Monday night. | :34:37. | :34:41. | |
Thorz are all the headlines for this morning, Victoria. Thank you very | :34:42. | :34:44. | |
much. So another terror attack at another | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
international airport just three months after the bombings | :34:49. | :34:50. | |
in Brussels, three suicide bombers have caused devastation | :34:51. | :34:52. | |
at Istanbul's Atatruk Airport, killing at least 36 people | :34:53. | :34:54. | |
and wounding more than 140. The Turkish Prime Minister says it | :34:55. | :35:08. | |
looks like the terrorist group, Islamic State carried out the | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
attack. Let's talk to Frank Gardner, our security correspondent, it could | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
be Islamic State, it could be the PKK, the Kurdish group, what are | :35:17. | :35:18. | |
your thoughts at this point? I don't think it is the PKK and I'll tell | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
you why. I mean, I maybe proved wrong, but this is an international | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
attack. Istanbul is the third busiest airport in Europe. It is the | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
busiest Turkish airport. If you want to make a global splash and not just | :35:33. | :35:37. | |
take on the Turkish state by attacking policemen and global posts | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
and kill international travellers, this is the place to do it. So it is | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
almost certainly going to be so-called Islamic State. You know, a | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
firearms attack, what the military calls a complex attack, a | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
combination of explosives and gunshots, guys wandering around | :35:56. | :35:58. | |
inside looking for targets, similar in a way to what we saw in Mumbai, | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
the pattern was set in 2008, in that attack, similar to Brussels, similar | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
in a way to Paris, although smaller scale. There has been very little | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
chatter about it so far, but it is not unusual that IS has not claimed | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
emead jat responsibility. They -- immediate responsibility. They never | :36:18. | :36:23. | |
claim for attacks on the state, only on activists, but I would be | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
surprised if it was not Islamic State. Turkey has a serious problem | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
with terrorism. A number incidents last year, Ankara, Istanbul, a | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
number incidents this, now the airport. There are questions from | :36:36. | :36:38. | |
citizens, from the opposition parties there, to the Prime | :36:39. | :36:41. | |
Minister, why aren't you doing more to protect us? Well, Turkey is a | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
victim of both its geography and its politics. It has a 900 kilometre | :36:47. | :36:53. | |
border with Syria. A country that's embroiled in a civil war. Parts of | :36:54. | :37:00. | |
the border are porous. For the past five years, Turkey had an equivocal | :37:01. | :37:07. | |
attitude to IS. They didn't see Isis as their main enemy, their main | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
enemy remains the PKK, they bombed their bases in northern Iraq and | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
suffered huge casualties over the years. Their enemy number two has | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
been Syria's president, but they've cooled down on that now and they are | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
reaching out a little bit towards Damascus and they have made peace | :37:25. | :37:32. | |
with Israel over five years of cold peace between them. Now, they've got | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
a lot of enemies so they've got Isis, they've got the PKK and far | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
left revolutionaries so they have got a lot of enemies, a long porous | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
border, there is a network of IS inside Turkey that extends into | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
Istanbul, this is partly the people who smuggle people like the Jihadi | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
brides coming from Britain and other European countries into Turkey. | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
They're well established. And it is taken the Turk English Government a | :38:02. | :38:04. | |
long time to crackdown on these people and stop turning a blind eye | :38:05. | :38:07. | |
to their activities on the border. You advised President Obama's | :38:08. | :38:19. | |
security team on so-called Islamic State, is that correct? Yes. What's | :38:20. | :38:24. | |
your view about what happened at the International Airport in Turkey? I | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
think many of us have been anticipating these types of attack, | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
whether in Turkey or Europe for sometime as the coalition forces are | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
squeezing militarily in Iraq and Syria, Isil wants to demonstrate it | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
is still in control and wants more recruits to keep coming and it will | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
lash out on the periphery or the near periphery which is Turkey. Big | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
cities, big airports, across Europe, across the States, this is the new | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
normal, we have to get used to this? What we need to find out, was this | :38:54. | :38:58. | |
dictated by Isil core or was this a lone wolf... Why does it make a | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
difference? If they have more of a command and control relationship in | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
many places, it will change the tactics of the campaign, but how to | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
crush that, if it is just lone wolves who are inspired then it is a | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
different type of counter radicalisation campaign that many | :39:16. | :39:17. | |
governments need to be I would say upgrading, they are already doing | :39:18. | :39:20. | |
this already, but they need to do more in that space. Upgrading to do | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
what? To try to stop kids being recruited whether online in mosques | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
or in schools, if these people were coming from Syria or Iraq, and being | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
told to go and carry out a particular type of campaign. Frank | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
Gardner, I don't know if you know this airport, but they have security | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
scanners at the doors. So they're bringing the security forward. In | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
the end if somebody wants to, you know, shoot a Kalashnikov and blow | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
themselves up, it doesn't matter where the scanners are, does it? | :39:54. | :39:58. | |
Yeah, I was in Ataturk Airport last year and security is OK there. It is | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
not bad. I mean, some of the tighter security airports in the world you | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
can go straight into, but there are people watching you who look like | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
tramps, but they have got little ear pieces and they are watching every | :40:13. | :40:15. | |
movement, they are looking for anything suspicious, there are banks | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
of people looking at CCTV cameras, looking for any abnormal movements, | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
sweating, somebody kind of moving in as if they are carrying something | :40:25. | :40:27. | |
hidden under their body etcetera. The problem is if you put physical | :40:28. | :40:33. | |
security outside the airport, you're simply creating a congestion area | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
outside where a suicide bomber can can still walk into it and blow | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
themselves up. There is no perfect solution to this. Brussels looked at | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
this. I think there is a different problem in some of the European | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
airports, Continental European airports than there is in Turkey. In | :40:50. | :40:56. | |
places like Brussels, some of the airport workers celebrated the Paris | :40:57. | :40:59. | |
attacks in November. Disgusting as that is. Now that, should have been | :41:00. | :41:05. | |
investigated immediately and their licences revoked. You can't have | :41:06. | :41:09. | |
people celebrating terrorism working in a sensitive place like an | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
airport. That though is not, of course, an excuse to start looking | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
at people's religious identity. Extremism is one thing and religion | :41:17. | :41:24. | |
is another. OK. I think we can bring our audience some fresh pictures | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
from the immediate aftermath of what happened at the airport and we will | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
talk to John. John thank you very much for talking to us. I think you | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
were standing close to where one of the bombs went off, is that correct? | :41:39. | :41:45. | |
Yes, I was. I was going to get the later flight, but fortunately I | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
manageded to get the earlier flight and I was lucky. At the airport | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
there was quite a lot of at mos fear. It felt uneasy. There was a | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
lot of security personnel around the front of the airport and it seemed | :41:59. | :42:01. | |
it was increased and it seemed like there was panic on people's faces. I | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
don't speak Turkish. I'm British national. It made me feel uneasy | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
because there was increased staff there and people were rushing around | :42:12. | :42:14. | |
a lot. This was before anything happened? Before. I got to the | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
airport at 11 o'clock Turkish time and it was increased security. The | :42:21. | :42:27. | |
security measures at the front of the doors, it wasn't very strict. It | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
wasn't like you would do in one of the British airports. Right. The | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
security is very good there, but it is not enough. John, thank you for | :42:37. | :42:43. | |
that. Thank you. You were on President Obama's security team when | :42:44. | :42:46. | |
it came to Islamic State, what advice did you give to him about | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
that organisation? I was working for General Alan, the Special Envoy, but | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
generally it is really about co-ordination, close co-ordination | :42:57. | :42:59. | |
with allies on a number of fronts, whether it is military, intelligence | :43:00. | :43:03. | |
sharing, messaging and trying to co-ordinate messaging, there is a | :43:04. | :43:06. | |
bunch of activities that many countries around the world need to | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
do and I think that type of co-ordination is even more important | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
now. The fact that Britain has voted to leave the European Union will | :43:14. | :43:16. | |
have any effect on that intelligence sharing? Hopefully not. Right. I | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
think this country will need to turbo their charge in their efforts | :43:22. | :43:25. | |
in continuing that security and intelligence sharing going forward | :43:26. | :43:28. | |
to make sure there are no gaps. Thank you. | :43:29. | :43:38. | |
On Monday, we brought you news of a number of racist incidents that | :43:39. | :43:40. | |
people had experienced around the country since | :43:41. | :43:42. | |
Verbal abuse, racist insults on social media, unpleasant leaflets | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
being posted into people's homes and the theme really | :43:48. | :43:53. | |
was, "You're an immigrant. Time for you to go home". | :43:54. | :43:59. | |
I've not just had one. I had an array of racial abuse. At this point | :44:00. | :44:14. | |
I would urge people to report it to the police because only by reporting | :44:15. | :44:19. | |
these bigots can we root them out and I would like to read you an | :44:20. | :44:26. | |
e-mail that I got which I found particularly worrying. One of these | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
bigots went to the trouble of getting my personal e-mail. It | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
maeds, "You are not now nor will you ever be Welsh. Being born in Wales | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
has nothing to do with being Welsh. I cannot wait to send you and the | :44:41. | :44:45. | |
anti-white garbage that you stand for back to the Third World dump | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
that you came from along with some other colourful language." That's | :44:51. | :44:52. | |
unacceptable. Today, we have some hard data - | :44:53. | :44:55. | |
facts and figures about the number of incidents | :44:56. | :44:57. | |
since last Friday morning. Plus, today, a group of MPs that | :44:58. | :44:59. | |
make up the Joint Committee on Human Rights will hear evidence | :45:00. | :45:02. | |
about the Government's plans to tackle reported rising levels | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
of xenophobia and racism Mikdaad Versi is the | :45:07. | :45:08. | |
Assistant General Secretary He's put together a catalogue | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
of hate crimes reported online Harjeet Sahota says she's | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
been abused three times Says Friday, presumably? Tell us | :45:17. | :45:32. | |
about it. On Sunday, I was making my way back from a family wedding using | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
public transport. The first incident was on the platform, guys yelling | :45:37. | :45:40. | |
abuse at me to get out of the country from the other side of the | :45:41. | :45:43. | |
platform. It was a packed platform and nobody said anything and if | :45:44. | :45:46. | |
anything, they shared the same disgust. How do you know that? From | :45:47. | :45:52. | |
the looks they were giving. Before they said anything, they were | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
staring at me and I was looking behind me, what am I doing? I was | :45:58. | :46:00. | |
not doing anything, just sitting there. I tried to board and try to | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
sit down at a table seat and a guy got very aggressive and said I am | :46:06. | :46:11. | |
not sitting opposite... And he used the next P word and for the next two | :46:12. | :46:16. | |
hours, I was in shock and again, it was a full carriage and nobody said | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
anything or intervened and he stood up and got quite aggressive and I | :46:21. | :46:24. | |
had to move carriages. Again, it was unprovoked, I didn't do anything. I | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
got back to London and on the overground, two guys who were | :46:30. | :46:32. | |
drinking on the overground were looking at me and talking about me | :46:33. | :46:38. | |
whilst looking at me, "Aren't they meant to have left yet? I am pretty | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
sure we voted Leave, how long have we got?" I was awful, -- it was | :46:44. | :46:51. | |
awful, I have never felt so outnumbered. Did you say anything? I | :46:52. | :46:56. | |
asked them to repeated because I was in shock. The second time, I was, | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
like, why can't I sit here? This person felt they had a right to tell | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
me where I could and couldn't sit. By the time it got to the third | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
incident, I was so fed up I just wanted to get home in one piece, I | :47:11. | :47:14. | |
was concerned for my safety. The third incident, the two blokes | :47:15. | :47:17. | |
drinking on the Underground in London referred to the result of the | :47:18. | :47:24. | |
referendum. All three did. It was references to "Get out of our | :47:25. | :47:30. | |
country", "What are you doing here? We voted leave. We gave you 48 | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
hours," I don't know where that figure came from. "It Is Sunday now, | :47:37. | :47:42. | |
why are you still here?" What do you make of that? It is really shocking | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
and disappointing. As a country, it is not who we are and there are so | :47:49. | :47:51. | |
many cases that seem to have happened across the country that | :47:52. | :47:55. | |
make it a real worry, we would need some real leadership to try and | :47:56. | :48:00. | |
tackle this. David Cameron talked about it in the House of Commons on | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
Monday and said it was absolutely unacceptable. Can you give us the | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
facts and figures? We need to be clear about how many incidents there | :48:09. | :48:13. | |
are all whether this is much more than, sadly, usual. On Friday, I | :48:14. | :48:21. | |
started seeing some cases, let me Calais to view. Over those two days, | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
I noticed over 100 cases of hate crime. This is not hate trolling you | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
see quite a lot of, this is somebody saying "I got abused in this way... | :48:33. | :48:40. | |
Somebody shouted "Leave!" People having leaflets put through their | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
door to tell them to get out, these are worrying incidents and the Met | :48:45. | :48:48. | |
police recently released figures saying there has been a 66% rise in | :48:49. | :48:55. | |
terms of reported incidents and the vast majority don't even reported. | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
Those who do report it might decide to just put something on social | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
media and not report it even further but then the vast majority don't | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
even do that, so you then you have a great number. Would you consider | :49:11. | :49:13. | |
going to the police to report those incidents? I have been asked a | :49:14. | :49:17. | |
number of times and no, I think these people feel like, the | :49:18. | :49:24. | |
emboldened racists post-referendum, like there is no resort recourse to | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
their actions and nobody has spoken out with enough condemnation, they | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
have not taken responsibility for the part they played with the | :49:34. | :49:38. | |
divisive campaign. Do you feel they absolutely are partly responsible | :49:39. | :49:40. | |
for the abuse you have received since the result? I think racism has | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
existed pre-Brexit and it is existing post, but it has almost | :49:47. | :49:53. | |
encouraged these people to be more overt in their views and it is that | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
a shamelessness, they feel like they have been given a bit of a mandate | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
by the vote. Whether you voted leave for immigration is or not, they see | :50:04. | :50:09. | |
the 52% and see that as a mandate to continue and vocalise it, because it | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
was such a divisive and negative campaign and I feel like the senior | :50:14. | :50:16. | |
politicians in the Leave Campaign now, what are they going to do to | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
rain this in? They have created this atmosphere and controlling it now, I | :50:22. | :50:25. | |
don't see it and like I say, with the police, I don't see what they | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
can do to stop it. Why don't you give them the opportunity to see | :50:31. | :50:35. | |
what they can do? I have since reported it, so it has gone on the | :50:36. | :50:40. | |
figures and people can see this is happening there. So you have gone to | :50:41. | :50:46. | |
the police. I have but to be honest, I wasn't really reassured. They will | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
get a caution, if they can find them via CCTV. I was on my own, I didn't | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
have my phone, I couldn't record anything. Other people who have been | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
in a similar situation and might not have felt it was enough, | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
justifiable, to go to the police, is this normal now? That is really | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
worrying thing. This is not normal now. The vast majority of people are | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
not racist in this country. Of course, it is a small minority. It | :51:16. | :51:21. | |
is a rise in incidents but it is still a minority. You have talked | :51:22. | :51:26. | |
about the politicians stepping up, more of them, saying it is | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
absolutely unacceptable. What do you think should happen now? There are a | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
range of things that have to happen. The fact that the mayor came out and | :51:35. | :51:39. | |
said it was a zero tolerance policy, which the police Commissioner | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
reiterated, there needs to be the critical leadership that changes the | :51:43. | :51:45. | |
way people look at these things. We have had the Prime Minister himself | :51:46. | :51:50. | |
a year ago talking about a swarm of migrants. The language that is used | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
by politicians is very important and needs to change. The second area is | :51:54. | :51:59. | |
to do with the media reporting of this. Whilst there has been a | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
simmering of hatred to immigrants for a long time, just this year, | :52:04. | :52:07. | |
there have been over 30 front-page stories on the daily express talking | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
about how migrants need to get out, talking about migrants in a very | :52:12. | :52:16. | |
derogatory way. Do you feel that feeds into the tone surrounding the | :52:17. | :52:19. | |
conversation? Exactly way. There is a regulator, it is called ipso, and | :52:20. | :52:26. | |
they talk about the highest professional standards for print | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
media and none of them are dealing with this real issue. Let me read | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
some messages to people watching. Scott tweets this, I am not sure it | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
is as bad as you are all making out. That is exactly why I am sat here | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
today. There are so many people, it goes unreported, it isn't on social | :52:44. | :52:50. | |
media. It is happening and people need to keep an eye out for it and | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
for their fellow man and safety in numbers, solidarity, and show that | :52:55. | :52:57. | |
the majority of Great Britain are not racist, we don't think this is | :52:58. | :53:02. | |
acceptable and you do have a mandate -- do not have a mandate to | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
continue. Joe tweets I am so sorry for the appalling behaviour of these | :53:07. | :53:13. | |
vile people. This tweet says it is utterly disgusting, the amount of | :53:14. | :53:16. | |
ignorance in the country. Zac says it breaks my heart to hear this from | :53:17. | :53:20. | |
you because I also experienced something that left me feeling so | :53:21. | :53:23. | |
unwelcome in a country I was born in. And Kevin said we must all stand | :53:24. | :53:30. | |
up to hate. I think outside the Polish cultural Centre, where there | :53:31. | :53:33. | |
was graffiti saying "Get out of here", there was an outpouring of | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
love from the local community, with flowers and people coming to show | :53:39. | :53:41. | |
they can work together and in solidarity with the community is | :53:42. | :53:45. | |
being targeted. That is what we need to do. Move away from this idea of | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
division and we need politicians to help heal this divide and move | :53:51. | :53:53. | |
forward in trying to deal with the causes, the way the media is | :53:54. | :53:58. | |
reporting it, the language used by politicians, and we shouldn't have | :53:59. | :54:01. | |
the sort of scaremongering happening in the campaign and specifically, we | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
need to move about -- away from that and talk about issues that Britain | :54:06. | :54:08. | |
is really care about. Thank you both of you becoming on the programme, | :54:09. | :54:17. | |
Harjeet and Mikdaad. This news is just in, Paul Gascoigne has appeared | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
in court and he has pleaded not guilty at Dudley magistrates Court | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
to racially aggravated abuse. So Paul Gascoigne has appeared in | :54:28. | :54:31. | |
court, Dudley magistrates, and has pleaded not guilty to racially | :54:32. | :54:39. | |
aggravated abuse. So that will now go to trial. Paul Gascoigne has been | :54:40. | :54:43. | |
in court this morning, he has pleaded guilty at the late not | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
guilty to racially aggravated abuse. -- he has pleaded not guilty. | :54:49. | :54:53. | |
England's players have left their Chantilly base in France | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
after their dismal exit from Euro 2016 after a 2-1 defeat to Iceland. | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
Manager Roy Hodgson resigned within minutes of loss. | :55:02. | :55:08. | |
The inquest continues. We have been here before as England supporters, | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
after yet another terrible performance at a major football | :55:13. | :55:17. | |
tournament. So who next once this job to manage the England players, | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
some of whom are really, really talented. | :55:22. | :55:24. | |
Let's speak now to someone who's witnessed many of the highs and lows | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
of the English national football side over the years - | :55:29. | :55:30. | |
Henry Winter, the Times chief football writer. | :55:31. | :55:31. | |
Here we are again, Henry Winter, now what? Good morning, Victoria. The | :55:32. | :55:40. | |
French, if they had a word for deja vu, it would be very applicable | :55:41. | :55:43. | |
here. We have been here every tournament, Roy Hodgson is taking a | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
lot of criticism but when you think about it, he is only part of the | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
problem. There is a general malaise in English football, the structure | :55:52. | :55:54. | |
of the game itself, the way these kids are brought up in the | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
academies. They are not taught how to take responsibility, which is an | :55:59. | :56:02. | |
issue, so when they are in crunch moments, like against Iceland, they | :56:03. | :56:12. | |
don't take responsibility and Purtschert seems to weigh so heavily | :56:13. | :56:14. | |
on them. There were tactical mistakes made by Hodgson, he could | :56:15. | :56:17. | |
have brought Rashford on earlier, issues like that, but it is a | :56:18. | :56:19. | |
systemic issue with English football and that is why players lose their | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
nerve at key moments. I remember after Euro 2,000, when England got | :56:27. | :56:32. | |
knocked out, Sir Trevor Brooking back then did a really in-depth | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
intelligence report into what went wrong and from memory, and it was a | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
long time ago, there was a lot of talk about possession and the way we | :56:41. | :56:43. | |
don't pass the ball to each other and that was the key then. I don't | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
know how many more reports an inquest we can have to try and | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
improve England's progress in these tournaments. It is interesting that | :56:52. | :56:56. | |
you mention Sir Trevor Brooking. The FA got him involved but if you look | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
at the make-up at the Football Association, there is little | :57:02. | :57:03. | |
football dressing room experience compared to certain other leading | :57:04. | :57:07. | |
football nations, so I do think we have to bring more experience in, | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
like Gary Lineker, who is fantastic for the BBC, great expert, fantastic | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
on Twitter, he should be on the FA board. David Beckham should be on | :57:18. | :57:21. | |
the FA board. People who have experienced crunch games. Gary | :57:22. | :57:24. | |
Lineker got to the semifinal. The golden generation at the moment are | :57:25. | :57:27. | |
sitting in television studios, one or two doing their coaching badges. | :57:28. | :57:32. | |
They should be embedded in the age-group teams to inspire the young | :57:33. | :57:36. | |
players and teach them what it is like and how to get stronger from | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
their own mistakes. So what Sir Trevor was saying on structural | :57:41. | :57:43. | |
levels but also on the passing levels. It is pretty basic, not | :57:44. | :57:47. | |
being able to pass from a to B and you saw it countless times, players | :57:48. | :57:52. | |
who we watch and admires in the Premier League and we have seen do | :57:53. | :57:54. | |
well in the Champions League, they can't do it and that is a | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
psychological issue when they play for England. Thank you very much, | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
Henry Winter, chief football writer at the times. We are going to have a | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
quick look at Prince Harry, he went on stage with Coldplay last night. I | :58:08. | :58:10. | |
think we have some pictures. Let's have a look. Have we? They are | :58:11. | :58:23. | |
coming, I promise, stay with us... I am sorry. That was a bit of an | :58:24. | :58:26. | |
anti-climax, wasn't a question mark thanks to your company today, back | :58:27. | :58:29. | |
tomorrow at nine. -- wasn't it? | :58:30. | :58:31. |