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It's one year since the shocking image of three-year-old Syria

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refugee Aylan Kurdi, who drowned trying to cross to

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Europe, knifed through the world's conscience and brought a clamour

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His father thinks that momentum has been lost.

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TRANSLATION: The tragedy at first made life much easier for poor

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refugees. But after a while by God almighty there was nothing left,

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nobody remembered Aylan, he had been forgotten, not even a whisper.

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We'll speak to the actress Juliet Stevenson who's among

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campaigners who want the UK to allow in hundreds more refugee children

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Also today, patient groups warn of a catastrophic impact on safety

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over junior doctors plans for a wave of strike action through the rest

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And, she devoted her life to helping the sick and poor,

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the legacy of the remarkable nun Mother Teresa who becomes

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We'll be talking to those who knew her and a critic.

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We're live until 11.00am this morning.

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Lots coming up, have you an operation or procedure you fear

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could be cancelled with the strike, do you work in the NHS and what do

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you think of the planned walk out? Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning. Use the hashtag Victoria live

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and if you text you will be charged Our top story today,

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some of the country's most senior medical leaders have condemned

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the series of strikes planned by junior doctors

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in England as the row over A week-long walkout this month

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will be followed by three more five-day strikes in October,

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November and December. The Academy of Medical Royal College

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says the proposed action is disproportionate,

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as Keith Doyle reports. It's the worst industrial relations

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dispute in the history of the NHS. With the BMA's announcement

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of five-day strikes each month to the end of this year,

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this is a rapidly escalating row. The strikes will now stretch

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from 8am to 5pm from 12th Then in October from 5th to 7th

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and the 10th to the 11th. Junior doctors will then walk out

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again from 14th to 18th of November and from the 5th

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to the 9th of December. The announcement came just a few

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hours after Theresa May made clear she supports the contract

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the government is imposing She accused the BMA of playing

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politics and failing And now another significant

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intervention from the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges,

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made up of leaders of It says it is disappointed

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at the prospect of further sustained industrial action at a time when

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the NHS is under extreme pressure. While it acknowledged

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there were genuine concerns among doctors, it says the proposed

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strikes are not proportionate and will cause real problems

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for patients and the profession. The BMA says the government

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could stop the strikes by calling off the imposition of the contract,

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which is due to begin in October. It says the contract

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is still not fair for all. The NHS has scant resources to meet

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this winter's increased demand. This year, to add to seasonal

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illness and injury, it now faces the prospect of crippling

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strike action also. He is the chief

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executive of National Voices which represents charities

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that support patients. How concerned are you about these

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new strikes announced? Good morning. Well, our job is to look at things

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from the point of view of patients and we are concerned about this huge

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escalation in the industrial dispute and frustrated, given that a deal

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was very close to being settled earlier in the summer. There is no

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end in sight to these strikes. They will have an impact on patients. We

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can't be sure exactly what the impact will be because it depends on

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how well the NHS contingency planning is. But we are concerned

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and we would like doctors to call off the strike and both sides to get

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back around the negotiating table. When you are talking about impacts,

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you don't know how much of an impact but presumably we are talking about

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operations and routine procedures delayed? Operations will be

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cancelled, appointments postponed, procedures postponed: What we can't

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be sure about is the level of disruption. In the previous

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stoppages when junior doctors walked out the rest of their colleagues,

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including senior consultants and nurses and the rest of the

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healthcare staff, rallied around in an effective way so disruption was

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less than the worst case scenario that people had feared. So, we are

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in slightly unchartered territory. It depends on how many doctors walk

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out and what happens locally and how well hospital trusts plan around the

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strike. Undoubtedly we can't be sure about the numbers but overall the

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impact will be delay and disruption and cancellation of all kinds of

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things and that will cause uncertainty and delay and disruption

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and inconvenience to patients and their families. So, at a time when

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the NHS is struggling just to get through a normal day, let alone days

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when there are strikes. We don't think this is the best way to

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resolve the dispute. If you are at home, you have a letter, you are

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expecting a routine operation or a procedure to take place what should

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you do now? Should you be contacting the NHS or will people get in touch

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with you? Well, people should get in touch with patients but I think if

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anybody is anxious and uncertain they probably should feel empowered

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to get in touch themselves with the hospital, the doctors to find out

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what the state of play is. I fear that for many people there will be a

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degree of uncertainty, possibly right up until the last minute as

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the hospitals try and plan around the strike and work out how many

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people are going to be on strike. So get in touch and try and get

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clarity. Often in these situations the worst thing for people is

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uncertainty and anxiety around that, particularly if they've had to make

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big domestic arrangements to work around the need to go into hospital

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and to get relatives and friends involved in helping out. So it's

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going to be disruptive. If people are concerned they should be in

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touch with their local NHS to find out how it's going to affect them.

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Thank you. And if you are going to be affected by that and you are

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expecting a operation or appointment, do get in touch.

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Ben Brown is in the BBC newsroom with a summary

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Campaigners say they've identified almost 400 children living

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in the Calais jungle camp who are eligible to be

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They're making the call on the death of the Syrian child Aylan Kurdi.

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They are the most vulnerable in the migrant crisis,

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children enduring the hardest of journeys, many doing so alone.

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Some have ended up here, the so-called Jungle

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Of the 7,000 refugees living in the camp, Citizen UK says 800

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Almost half, it says, are eligible to move to Britain.

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Some because they have family already in the UK, others

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because of new immigration rules called the Dubs amendment designed

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Later today, faith leaders, council chiefs and celebrities

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will hand a list of names to the Home Office with a call

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We're saying to the government, we are prepared to help you.

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We're not protesting you haven't done enough, although you haven't,

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we are saying to our own government that it's not that we're blaming

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What we are saying is that we want to help you if you can't do this

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The situation in Calais is very much on Amber Rudd's agenda.

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The Home Secretary earlier this week promising to step up

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moves to improve things after meeting her

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The Home Office says it's already agreed to take

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But they point out they need local authorities to agree to care

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for children once they're in Britain.

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A 23-year-old man has been charged in connection with the deaths

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of a boy and his aunt, who were hit by a car being chased

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by police in south-east London on Wednesday.

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Makayah McDermott and Rosie Cooper were walking along a road

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Joshua Dobby, of no fixed abode, is due to appear before

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Bromley Magistrates today to face two counts of death

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A state of emergency has been declared in Florida

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Schools and government offices have been closed and thousands

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It's the first hurricane to hit Florida in 11 years.

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Our North America correspondent, Laura Bicker reports

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The eye of Hurricane Hermeen has hit the North West

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They are saying in places around 80 mph winds.

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As you can see, one of the things they are worried about is the heavy

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rain with the heavy winds coupled with a high tide.

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We are 50 miles away from the Gulf Coast and we can

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already see the strengthening winds and this heavy rain.

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It could be about eight feet of water hitting the coast

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and they are worried about coastal flooding.

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People living along those areas have been warned to either stay indoors

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There are around 20 shelters set up to make sure people have

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Around 8,000 members of the National Guard,

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The fear is there will be in need of people to try and clear up

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The governor Rick Scott has declared a state of emergency and he also

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says this is a potentially life-threatening storm.

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People are being warned not to go out and about because they say that

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perhaps they can fix your property but they can't go out

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The last time a hurricane hit the coast of Florida was in 2005,

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And it was around $24 billion worth of damage.

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Already tens of thousands of homes have lost power in that

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People have their fingers crossed that in the next two

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hours as the storm passes through the damage will not be

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A man has been charged with murder after the death of a banker

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feared to have been killed by a single punch.

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Oliver Dearlove died after allegedly being hit by a man while waiting

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for a taxi on a night out in Blackheath in south-east

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A post-mortem examination gave the provisional cause

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Melania Trump, the wife of the Republican presidential

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candidate Donald Trump, is suing the Daily Mail online

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for libel saying the newspaper alleged that she was an escort

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Her lawyer says such claims are 100% false.

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The Mail Online has retracted any suggestion the

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A study of the Zika virus spread says more than two

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and a half billion people live in areas that may be

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Africa and Asia are said to be most at risk.

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Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will today launch a fresh

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attempt to convince Scots to back independence, when she addresses SNP

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She'll urge them to start a national conversation about how the party

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can strengthen its case for an independent Scotland

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in the wake of the UK's vote to leave the European Union.

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New pictures have emerged of the moment a rocket belonging

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to the private company Space X exploded on its launch pad.

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The blast happened yesterday at Cape Canaveral in

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It shook buildings several kilometres away but SpaceX

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The action movie star Jackie Chan is getting an honorary Oscar

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for his extraordinary achievements in film.

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Chan, who's 62, has starred in dozens of martial arts films

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He went on to huge international success with hits including

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the Rush Hour franchise, Shanghai Noon, The Karate Kid, and

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That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

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Let's get the sport now, and Will Perry is at

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More success for Britain's men at the US Open in New York, I hear,

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but Andy Murray found it tricky to play under the roof there.

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This is interesting. If you haven't seen the scores as it were, Andy

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Murray and Dan Evans into the third round of the US Open, the first time

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since 1968 they've had three Brits into that stage of the US Open.

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Murray not happy because he was playing yesterday and the scoreline

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was comfortable in the end. It was under the new roof at the Arthur

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Ashe stadium. $150 million for that roof. It was raining torrentialally

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yesterday and at times Murray said it was like wearing headphones, he

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couldn't hear the ball. It's interesting to think at that level

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you need to news that sense to have your full game. It didn't seem to

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bother him too much. He was a winner. Dan Evans won in four sets

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to reach the third round for the first time in three years and Evans

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will take on the Swiss Stan Wawrinka. Let's talk cricket.

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England doing so well in the one-day series against Pakistan. Explain why

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it's different to the Test series, why do they struggle in Test series?

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You have a different set of players. There are a few that play Test and

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one-day but there is a different set that come in for the one-day. This

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is a massive turnaround for this team who were struggling a few years

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ago. Trevor Bayliss took over after the embarrassing World Cup in 2015

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and Eoin Morgan, the captain, has had a turnaround, as well. He was

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criticised last year and asked to step down by sections of the media

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and ex-players. People in there like Morgan, Hales, they're breaking

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records. Chris Woakes. They set a highest one-day score of all time.

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Yesterday comfortable, a 4-0 they lead that series with one to play.

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They've the champions trophy in 2017 which is in England and Wales, as is

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the ICC World Cup in 2019. There was a good feeling around the

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camp at the moment with Trevor Bayliss. I can see Laura Muir is

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done so well. Presumably she is now focusing on the World Championships?

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Yes, she won that Diamond league title last well in zero finishing

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second and interestingly, the woman she beat the title, from Kenya, she

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won gold at the Olympics and Laura Muir finished seventh, but she's 23,

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still a huge career ahead of her and she will go into those World

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Championships in London next year in a really, really good place. Thank

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you. Speak to you in half an hour. People are getting in touch with us.

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We had a text message from Phil, save the NHS by fide strikes? Are

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they mad? They are playing politics with people's lives. Carol says, no

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one knows how hard it is for junior doctors unless you've worked with

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them. I'm a retired nurse and I support the junior doctors. Paul

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e-mailed to say, increasingly the strike will be a PR battle for the

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support of public opinion and this is what they've always worried

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about, as long as the strike goes on, will they lose public opinion?

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If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

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They were the images that caused global headlines but one year

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on from the death of Alan Kurdi, how much change has there been

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Alan was the three year old Syrian child, pictured faced down

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in the sand on a Turkish beach, after the boat he and his family

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were in sank as they tried to reach Greece, fleeing civil war in Syria.

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Many of you will remember the image we're about to show,

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it is particularly distressing and if you have small children

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At the time it was this photo of Alan's lifeless body lying face

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down on the beach, that made the world focus

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The then Prime Minister David Cameron promised to give sanctuary

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to 20,000 Syrian refugees, then later said the UK would become

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But what has happened to that pledge, now Theresa May

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Alan's Kurdi's father, who survived the disaster,

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has been speaking to the the BBC's Fergal Keane.

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When I spoke to you a year ago you hoped the death of your children

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might change the way the world treats refugees.

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Are you disappointed by what has happened since?

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TRANSLATION: By God Almighty at first the presidents were excited

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What are the memories of the boys that come back to you?

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TRANSLATION: I swear by God Almighty this morning and every

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Today I felt they were visiting me and hugging me.

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It is important to remember them as individuals.

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And not just statistics in the refugee tragedy.

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TRANSLATION: The tragedy at first made life much easier for poor

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refugees but after a while, by God Almighty, there

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By the way there is something I have to tell you, a lot of people

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On this anniversary what is your message to the leaders of Europe?

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To those who can help bring this refugee crisis to an end.

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TRANSLATION: The question is for them to help

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the needy refugees but the situation is very dire.

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I swear by God Almighty it makes you cry.

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In a moment we'll speak to Juliet Stevenson and we'll talk about the

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campaign she's been involved with to get more children over to the UK and

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she's even visited the Calais jungle, as it's known. We are going

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to cross over now to hear from Boris Johnson. The Foreign Secretary is

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about to meet EU foreign ministers, but he is stopping off in Austria on

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the way and is speaking in Vienna. Whatever our relationship with the

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European Union, I was very clear and the minister also understands

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clearly, we are not leaving Europe. We are leaving the European Union.

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We do want a strong European Union but we also want a strong united

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kingdom and I think we share a vision for a strong, a new European

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partnership between the UK and the European Union and ever closer

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relations with Britain and Austria. I'm the proud possessor of a cowbell

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given to me by Topol Meyer, I'm proud to say, because they built a

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wonderful cable car in London with European Union funds. It was an

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Austrian investment in London, and we are very, very grateful for that

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I also want to take the chance to congratulate the Minister on his

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30th birthday. Many happy returns. Thank you very much, everybody. That

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was Boris Johnson speaking in Vienna talking more about cowbells and 30th

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birthday celebrations than Brexit, that he will be meeting EU foreign

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ministers later on today and hopefully we will get more on that

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later but Juliet Stevenson, the actors and campaign is with me to

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talk about those dreadful images we all saw a year ago of Alan Kurdi.

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It's difficult to not look at those pictures and not be moved but you

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think it changed anything? We heard it's a cliche, a game changer, it's

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going to change the way we deal with a migrant crisis. I think it did for

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a while. That picture moved millions of people all over the world and

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charities who do with refugees said it was extraordinary for a while,

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websites spiked up to many thousands of hits a day, and there was a big

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response to the image of that little boy 's body, but it did not last.

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Many, many hundreds of children have died since he died, in this last

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year, and still a crisis goes on, and we're not really meeting our

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responsibilities to help them. Let's talk about those responsibilities.

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You've been to the jungle in Calais, and many unaccompanied children

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there. Tell us about the conversations you had. Yes, I've

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been several times, six weeks ago I went and interviewed a whole group

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of small boys between eight and 14 years old, Syrian and Afghan, and

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I've never seen children in despair. I've seen my own kids angry and

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frightened or upset, but never children in despair and it's

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incredibly shocking. Many of those children have now been living in

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this muddy field without their parents and proper food or education

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or play spaces, or protection for nine months for that they've had a

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winter and they are facing another winter if we don't do something

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about it. We have a very proud tradition in this country, don't we?

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We brought 10,000 Jewish refugee children over and we are rightly

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proud of that tradition. These are war victims too. We really need to

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be able to offer humanitarian help them as long as these crises last

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and then hopefully they can home again. I want to bring in Muhammad,

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15 years old, a child refugee from the Syrian war. And also Tim Farron,

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as well, the leader of the Liberal Democrats. I want to speak to

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Muhammad. We are hoping to speak to him on Skype but a few technical

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problems. Muhammad, tell me what happened to you and your journey

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from Syria. Hello. Our journey from Syria to Germany wasn't that much

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difficult. We crossed the border, in one night, on the Dutch border and

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we stayed in a refugee camp. About three months it took us. You came

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with your mother, you have lost contact with your father? Yes, we

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lost contact with my dad for three years, he was kidnapped by Isis. I

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came with my mother and might two sisters. -- my two sisters. It's

:25:13.:25:19.

awful to imagine what you've been through at just 15 years of age. You

:25:20.:25:24.

have no idea what happened to your dad? You haven't had any word?

:25:25.:25:31.

Actually, like a lot of people, we've heard that his dad but someone

:25:32.:25:40.

told my mother he is alive but we're not about it. Is he alive or is he

:25:41.:25:47.

dead? How difficult is that for you to deal with whilst you're trying to

:25:48.:25:51.

rebuild a new life with your mother and sisters? Well, it's a big

:25:52.:26:04.

responsibility. I have to take care of them. Life in Germany is not that

:26:05.:26:18.

difficult, for the refugees who came for one or two years, something like

:26:19.:26:22.

that. Have you made friends at school? Have you settled in in

:26:23.:26:27.

Germany? German people are very welcoming and very nice people and,

:26:28.:26:33.

yeah, I'm now at school and I've made a lot of friends. They are

:26:34.:26:38.

really nice people here. They never hated anyone. Muhammad, it's great

:26:39.:26:46.

to hear that. Juliet is smiling there is some good stories coming

:26:47.:26:50.

out of this. Is that the kind of example of what you want to see here

:26:51.:26:53.

in the UK of a young person from Syria being given an opportunity to

:26:54.:26:58.

have a new life? Yes, absolutely, and the fact of the UK hasn't

:26:59.:27:03.

stepped up and provided that opportunity to people like Mohammed,

:27:04.:27:07.

has got so much to give, and such a terrible place to escape from, to

:27:08.:27:14.

give him opportunities which is in Germany's favour, enhances Germany's

:27:15.:27:17.

standing in the world, let's be honest, provide great new talent for

:27:18.:27:24.

the country and we turn our backs. Listening to Alan Kurdi's father,

:27:25.:27:27.

brings back the heartbreak for me again. I have been to the jungle

:27:28.:27:31.

myself and been to some of the camps in Greece and met many of those

:27:32.:27:37.

young people in desperate circumstances that Juliet talks

:27:38.:27:43.

about. And I do think that photograph of Alan Kurdi's body on

:27:44.:27:46.

the beach was hugely powerful. I remember not being able to look at

:27:47.:27:51.

it myself and it being one of the most moving things I've ever seen. I

:27:52.:27:55.

remember sending a message to the independent editor who publish that

:27:56.:28:02.

photograph and just saying, you've done a really powerful thing here.

:28:03.:28:05.

Because I think what did happen is that it took people's mind off a

:28:06.:28:11.

story that was being peddled by some that the refugee crisis was all

:28:12.:28:16.

about dreadful economic migrants trying to take advantage of

:28:17.:28:19.

civilised society in the West. It made people realise what this is

:28:20.:28:24.

really about, innocent, desperate families taking unspeakable risks

:28:25.:28:26.

because the bigger risk was to stay put. That picture changed a lot,

:28:27.:28:34.

but, sadly, a year ago, David Cameron was planning to take no

:28:35.:28:37.

refugees from the crisis area and after he did that, he pledged, by a

:28:38.:28:43.

lot of pressure from others, to take up to 20,000. He has taken, this

:28:44.:28:50.

government now, has taken barely 1012 months and it seems to me we

:28:51.:28:54.

have a government under Theresa May now, and David Cameron in the past,

:28:55.:28:57.

desperate to do the minimum to help these desperate people to assuage

:28:58.:29:02.

public opinion. That's why we need to keep up the pressure. Before we

:29:03.:29:06.

talk about those numbers. Juliet, I'm interested it to get your

:29:07.:29:11.

thoughts, living in a world of social media, you go through

:29:12.:29:14.

Twitter, there's so many disturbing images all the time, we are

:29:15.:29:18.

bombarded with from Aleppo and Syria. Do you think there's a danger

:29:19.:29:22.

we become desensitised and an image, if had seen an image of Alan Kurdi

:29:23.:29:28.

ten years ago, it would have stayed with people more than in the age we

:29:29.:29:34.

live in? That's a real danger, yes, I do. What happens is this

:29:35.:29:38.

conversation about refugees get appropriated all the time. Ordinary

:29:39.:29:41.

people saw that image one year ago and we profoundly moved. People who

:29:42.:29:46.

had kids and those who didn't wanted to do something with the

:29:47.:29:50.

conversation gets appropriated into politics. If you are a kid living in

:29:51.:29:54.

Calais, desperate, without parents, no education, hungry, it doesn't

:29:55.:29:59.

help you you're being used as a political pawn. 178 of those

:30:00.:30:05.

children in Calais have a legal right to be in the UK because they

:30:06.:30:11.

have close family here. Under EU law they are entitled to be reunited

:30:12.:30:17.

with their family and after the memorial for Alan Kurdi, we are

:30:18.:30:19.

going to hand in a letter to Amber Rudd to say please bring 387

:30:20.:30:26.

children, tiny number, in Calais, who have the legal right to be here,

:30:27.:30:30.

some of them about half, because I have close family there, and the

:30:31.:30:33.

other because they have been identified as extremely vulnerable,

:30:34.:30:38.

and, under the amendment to the immigration bill that David Cameron

:30:39.:30:42.

past, they need to be here. The government said this is going to be

:30:43.:30:45.

the responsibility of local councils and so on, but many councils have

:30:46.:30:48.

said they are willing to do that, and actually a lot of cancers have

:30:49.:30:52.

been to Calais recently, last week, and very ready to do that but we

:30:53.:30:57.

need the Home Office now to give it the green light, the support of the

:30:58.:31:01.

government to recognise that desperate plight of this children,

:31:02.:31:05.

and we must add up to our responsibilities. We will be very

:31:06.:31:08.

ashamed of ourselves if we don't. Looking back at this period, will be

:31:09.:31:12.

really ashamed of ourselves if history says these children were

:31:13.:31:15.

suffering in these numbers to this extent and we did nothing as the

:31:16.:31:19.

country. I don't think people want to be in a country that has that

:31:20.:31:20.

reputation. Since the Brexit vote immigration

:31:21.:31:29.

has been such a huge issue here in the UK. Karen on Facebook says we

:31:30.:31:34.

have enough room, where is the humanity? Stop blaming this father,

:31:35.:31:37.

he was looking for a better future, we don't know the half of it. The

:31:38.:31:42.

world is to blame. However, John says three simple words, we are

:31:43.:31:45.

full. What is we are full mean? These are children who already have

:31:46.:31:49.

families in the UK. There is a bed waiting for these children in

:31:50.:31:53.

somebody's home somewhere. They are legally entitled to be here. We are

:31:54.:31:57.

not... People are worried about immigration and I can understand

:31:58.:32:01.

that. I really, really do. But it's important to remember it's

:32:02.:32:04.

completely different talking about the free movement of people inside

:32:05.:32:08.

Europe which was a big issue in Brexit and that was one concern

:32:09.:32:13.

which I respect, but there is a completely different issue to

:32:14.:32:15.

children and families fleeing barrel bombs and gas and death in places

:32:16.:32:21.

like Syria or Isis in Afghanistan. Those are two different categories

:32:22.:32:23.

and what happens unfortunately is the whole thing gets lumped together

:32:24.:32:30.

as immigration. But seeking sanctuary is an international legal

:32:31.:32:34.

right and these are very, very tiny numbers. The movements of people

:32:35.:32:38.

inside the EU which was the Brexit sort of preoccupation is a

:32:39.:32:41.

completely different subject. We are not talking about that this morning.

:32:42.:32:45.

Lots of people do confuse the issue together with immigration. They do.

:32:46.:32:51.

I want to bring Mohammed back in who I am hoping is still on the phone,

:32:52.:32:56.

from Germany, he is 15 and is settled in Germany. Do you think

:32:57.:33:01.

that image of Aylan that we are talking about that was released a

:33:02.:33:05.

year ago today, do you think that made politicians in Germany change

:33:06.:33:10.

their mind s that why you feel you have a home now in Germany? Well,

:33:11.:33:18.

actually the image, yeah, actually it made in the first month it made

:33:19.:33:24.

like people start to say we have to help them like that. After that they

:33:25.:33:33.

stopped like even thinking about the photo and like people start to don't

:33:34.:33:39.

care. If they want really to help they can maybe just help like take

:33:40.:33:44.

helping what is happening now in Syria, taking out what is happening

:33:45.:33:50.

now in Syria by Isis and yeah, criminals. Thank you so much for

:33:51.:33:56.

speaking to us from Germany. Thank you for coming in, Juliet and also

:33:57.:33:58.

to Tim Farron. After a lifetime with the poor,

:33:59.:34:05.

Mother Teresa speeds to sainthood. Affectionately called

:34:06.:34:08.

the saint of the gutters, Mother Teresa of Calcutta will be

:34:09.:34:09.

officially a saint of In a couple of minutes' time,

:34:10.:34:12.

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medical leaders have condemned the series of strikes planned

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November and December. The Academy of Medical Royal

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to replace the batteries in these It's also temporarily halting sales

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Now the sport. The headlines: For the first time

:36:16.:36:18.

since 1968 there are three British men in the third round of the US

:36:19.:36:25.

Open. Dan Evans secured one of the biggest wins of his career: Andy

:36:26.:36:34.

Murray said it was like playing in headphones, so loud was the sound of

:36:35.:36:39.

torrential rain on the new stadium roof. It didn't stop him from

:36:40.:36:48.

winning in straight sets. Half-centuries from Ben Stokes and

:36:49.:36:54.

Johnny Bairstow led England to a victory and a 4-0 lead in that

:36:55.:37:03.

series. Laura Muir won the 1500 metres diamond league title. She

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becomes the third British woman to win a diamond league title and says

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there is little for her to improve ahead of the championships.

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Counter-terrorism police have launched an investigation

:37:23.:37:23.

into an internet troll claiming to be a Jeremy Corbyn supporter,

:37:24.:37:26.

who said on Facebook that a Jewish female Labour MP should be hanged.

:37:27.:37:29.

Ruth Smeeth is now receiving special protection from police.

:37:30.:37:31.

First of all, Ruth, tell us more about this. What threats have you

:37:32.:37:42.

received? Since the end of June I have received somewhere in the

:37:43.:37:48.

region of 25,000 pieces of abuse, I got 20,000 pieces of abuse within 12

:37:49.:37:52.

hours. Once it starts on social media it keeps going. Most of it was

:37:53.:37:57.

on social media, most of it was on Twitter. A great deal on Facebook

:37:58.:38:04.

and calls to my office and e-mails. This was one of the worst, not The

:38:05.:38:10.

Worst, but one of the worst that was quite clear and was passed over to

:38:11.:38:17.

the counterterrorism team by parliamentary state this year, a

:38:18.:38:21.

matter of weeks ago. It's vile. It's disgusting. And it's done in the

:38:22.:38:25.

name of the leader of the Labour Party which makes it even worse. I

:38:26.:38:28.

know that Jeremy Corbyn will condemn this but it's not about condemning,

:38:29.:38:32.

it's what people are doing in his name and what is now seemingly

:38:33.:38:40.

acceptable. Do you feel in danger? I think, look, the reality is we are

:38:41.:38:45.

still a matter of weeks since Jo Cox was brutally murdered, any MP, not

:38:46.:38:48.

least those of us that only got elected for the first time last

:38:49.:38:52.

year, we are still doing everything at once, we are still trying to find

:38:53.:38:55.

our feet and make sure we are representing our constituents to the

:38:56.:39:00.

best of our abilities. Of course there have been moments of concern

:39:01.:39:02.

and fear. The additional security, but it's

:39:03.:39:17.

not about me. It's about what it means for friends and family and not

:39:18.:39:20.

least my team and my staff, they're the ones that see all the abuse

:39:21.:39:24.

first. They're the ones that have to deal with it and it's unacceptable.

:39:25.:39:28.

I got elected, I put myself out there. I am honoured and privileged

:39:29.:39:33.

to be representing my constituents, fighting for them. To suggest that

:39:34.:39:37.

this has become normal now, that this level of abuse is acceptable,

:39:38.:39:43.

it just simply can't be. Who else would want to get elected? Why would

:39:44.:39:46.

anyone want to put themselves in this position and their families?

:39:47.:39:49.

It's why we have to clamp down on it, it's not about me, it's about

:39:50.:39:54.

everyone else that is elected or wants to be elected. Just give us

:39:55.:40:02.

the background here, a little bit about the launch for the Labour

:40:03.:40:08.

anti-Semitism review, remind us of that background. There was an

:40:09.:40:15.

anti-Semitism review that was launched on 30th June earlier this

:40:16.:40:19.

year. It had some significant findings in it. Unfortunately, the

:40:20.:40:25.

launch event turned into an absolute farce where I was abused by, not

:40:26.:40:29.

just someone in the audience who felt it was appropriate to attack me

:40:30.:40:38.

and accuse me of being in cahoots with the media and also members of

:40:39.:40:43.

the audience. At that point I walked out, I made no public statement and

:40:44.:40:48.

walked out, that what led to this level of abuse. I turned the other

:40:49.:40:53.

cheek and walked away. After that moment the world's gone crazy. It

:40:54.:40:58.

shouldn't be that MPs like myself, like other Jewish MPs or female MPs,

:40:59.:41:03.

and it has been women who have taken a brunt from this, should have to

:41:04.:41:08.

ignore it. Jeremy Corbyn was clear, apparently, that while he condemned

:41:09.:41:12.

it, we should ignore the abuse. Threats detailing how someone wants

:41:13.:41:16.

to hang me and what they want to do to me, that's not something that I

:41:17.:41:20.

nor the police can ignore. On that I want to say how amazing the police

:41:21.:41:24.

have been. They've given an extraordinary service that they - to

:41:25.:41:28.

me and to any of my constituents and for that I am very grateful. Let's

:41:29.:41:32.

remind people of what you were talking about there when you were

:41:33.:41:39.

heckled at that conference by a pro-Corbyn activist. He stood up and

:41:40.:41:44.

accused you of colluding with the Telegraph newspaper. We have a short

:41:45.:41:55.

clip of that. How dare you! The Labour Party has

:41:56.:42:07.

to change in terms of representation, including Spads...

:42:08.:42:10.

You mentioned Jo Cox and the murder of Jo Cox and the concerns you have.

:42:11.:42:14.

Presumably for your family and friends it's a worrying time, as

:42:15.:42:18.

well. It is and it's much more about them than me. I mean, the impact on

:42:19.:42:24.

my mum and all the people that care about me, I have been touched by the

:42:25.:42:28.

amount of support and solidarity from colleagues and friends but they

:42:29.:42:32.

shouldn't have to think about these things and definitely shouldn't have

:42:33.:42:36.

to see these things written about me in print. This is not an easy time

:42:37.:42:42.

for anybody. And emotions are heightened because of the leadership

:42:43.:42:44.

election within my own party. But that isn't an excuse. Politicians

:42:45.:42:49.

and all people are getting bullied and harassed on social media. What I

:42:50.:42:54.

need is for the leader of my party, the leader of the opposition to make

:42:55.:42:59.

it clear what can be done. One of the things he could personally do,

:43:00.:43:02.

this is being done in his name, not by him but in his name, he should be

:43:03.:43:06.

naming and shaming some of the worst perpetrators doing it in his name

:43:07.:43:10.

and making it clear publicly that they do not speak for him. That this

:43:11.:43:16.

is unacceptable. It's not just enough that the wonderful staff at

:43:17.:43:19.

the Labour Party expel people and the police have to deal with it,

:43:20.:43:25.

there is a vile amount of racism and intolerance and abuse online which

:43:26.:43:28.

then feeds on to our streets and leads to a culture of intolerance.

:43:29.:43:34.

He could actually personally do something about, that's what I am

:43:35.:43:38.

asking him to do. We have had a statement. I will read this to you.

:43:39.:43:47.

The No abuse is carried out in Jeremy's name and no one responsible

:43:48.:43:54.

for abuse is a genuine supporter of Jeremy's. This is why Jeremy

:43:55.:43:58.

launched respect and unity, a code of conduct calling on members and

:43:59.:44:01.

supporters to conduct themselves with a high standard of behaviour.

:44:02.:44:04.

All evidence of abuse should be reported to both the party and to

:44:05.:44:08.

the police so that action may be taken against the individuals

:44:09.:44:11.

responsible. Also, the Labour Party has given us

:44:12.:44:15.

a statement saying the Labour Party fully supports the work of the

:44:16.:44:20.

police in ensuring the safety and protection of all MPs and their

:44:21.:44:23.

staff. Threatening behaviour will not be tolerated within the party

:44:24.:44:26.

and we urge anyone receiving any abuse to contact the party and where

:44:27.:44:30.

relevant the police. We will do all we can to support Ruth and her staff

:44:31.:44:34.

during this time. Ruth, thank you for joining us this morning and

:44:35.:44:37.

telling us about that experience of yours.

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Mother Teresa, the Roman Catholic nun who worked with the poor

:45:02.:45:04.

in the Indian city of Kolkata is to be declared a saint on Sunday.

:45:05.:45:07.

She died in 1997 at the age of 87, and was beatified -

:45:08.:45:10.

the first step on the road to sainthood in 2003.

:45:11.:45:12.

In a moment we'll be talking to those who knew her,

:45:13.:45:15.

and those who are critical of the Vatican's decision

:45:16.:45:17.

to make her a saint, but first let's take a look at some

:45:18.:45:20.

prominent moments from her remarkable life.

:45:21.:45:25.

Mother Teressa was a Roman Catholic nun accredited for her work

:45:26.:45:28.

with the poor in the slums of the Indian city

:45:29.:45:30.

Her order, the Missionaries of Charity, was set up

:45:31.:45:33.

in 1950 and now operates in over 100 countries.

:45:34.:45:38.

Now we are in 105 countries and we are 500 convents around

:45:39.:45:45.

And what is very beautiful, many people thank me for giving them

:45:46.:45:55.

It has helped so many people who have never had a chance to do

:45:56.:46:04.

And through us they are getting a reward in the work so much.

:46:05.:46:11.

Mother Teresa has received multiple honours including an order

:46:12.:46:13.

of merit from the Queen, and in 1979 Nobel Peace Prize,

:46:14.:46:19.

although she asked that the ceremonial banquet be cancelled

:46:20.:46:22.

and the proceeds be given to the poor.

:46:23.:46:24.

Her opposition to contraception and abortion but her at odds

:46:25.:46:28.

She has been credited with two miracles, both involving

:46:29.:46:32.

The first was a Bengali tribal woman who was cured from a stomach tumour.

:46:33.:46:40.

The second was a Brazilian man with several brain tumours.

:46:41.:46:44.

He put his dramatic recovery down to prayers offered to the nun

:46:45.:46:47.

She will be officially named as a saint by Pope Francis on Sunday.

:46:48.:46:56.

I'm joined now by Dr Priya Virmani who grew up

:46:57.:46:59.

with Mother Teresa in Kolkata, Father Brian Kolodiejchuk

:47:00.:47:02.

who was instrumental in the decision to make her a Saint and journalist

:47:03.:47:05.

Paul Vallely who says she has been given the honour too soon.

:47:06.:47:09.

Thank you for coming in. How old were you when you first met mother

:47:10.:47:18.

Teresa? I was very little. I remember her before I even began

:47:19.:47:26.

school. I would go to her orphanage, children's home, in Calcutta, and I

:47:27.:47:32.

was too young so I would play with children but as I grew up, I began

:47:33.:47:38.

volunteering as well. What was she like because people obviously have a

:47:39.:47:42.

view of her as the person who did all of the good work, but on a human

:47:43.:47:47.

level, what was she like? Personally, for me, she was an

:47:48.:47:51.

extension of my family. She was the most compassionate, the most loving,

:47:52.:47:57.

the most cheerful and funny granny I could ever have had. Or ever

:47:58.:48:05.

imagined. I was always struck by how she met people irrespective of who

:48:06.:48:09.

the person was, whether it was a beggar from the streets, a VIP,

:48:10.:48:15.

journalist or even one of her fiercest critics, she always met

:48:16.:48:20.

them with untempered compassion. Her face would light up of kindness and

:48:21.:48:26.

her wrinkles would be radiant with her kindness, and her aura was one

:48:27.:48:32.

of unconditional love, really, to receive or to feel and energy of

:48:33.:48:36.

unconditional love from someone, who was not from your immediate family,

:48:37.:48:41.

it is quite exceptional. Paul, you think that becoming a saint, as she

:48:42.:48:47.

will on Sunday, is a bit too soon. Explain why. I'm not a critic of

:48:48.:48:52.

mother to raise a full spyware went to one of their camps and Ethiopian

:48:53.:48:55.

when I covered the famine and it was a place of extraordinary calm and

:48:56.:49:00.

peace and serenity. I'm not critical of her, but critical of the Vatican.

:49:01.:49:06.

Until recently, you had to have at least a 200 year gap between dying

:49:07.:49:12.

and being made a saint and what that gap allowed was for your, the Church

:49:13.:49:18.

calls her relic of virtue, your towering qualities, to overshadow

:49:19.:49:28.

all the floors of your personality, and it was a process where people

:49:29.:49:31.

were honoured by the passage of time. What has happened two Popas

:49:32.:49:38.

ago, the system was changed and, instead of having a minimum of 50

:49:39.:49:44.

years as a gap between the beatification and canonisation, it

:49:45.:49:49.

was speeded up, fast tracked saint had introduced. What that does is

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allow controversy into canonisation so there are a lot of critics of

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mother to who say their homes concentrated on the care of a dying

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rather than the cure of the living, and that she was in love with

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poverty rather than the poor, and that she rubbed shoulders with rich

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people, dodgy politicians, fraudsters, to get money off them

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and didn't keep proper accounts. These accusations have been made

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about her and I think there would be far better for the church if time

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allowed those to fade and yours made a saint in 100 years rather than on

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Sunday. Do you think any of those criticisms are justified because she

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was, of course, against abortion, she did meet Saddam Hussein, got

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money from Robert Maxwell. She rubbed shoulders with some people

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who were unsavoury characters. I think it's very important to

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contextualise the criticism that she is given for firstly, when you talk

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about her homes which look after those who are dying, her point was

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to lift people who were dying absolutely unloved with no dig the

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tea at all on the streets, -- dignity, and I walk on the city

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streets of Calcutta would prove that's happening today. She provided

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them with basic care and a basic sense of dignity in death, and not

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with 5-star hospital treatment, so that puts that aspect into context.

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When you look at the fact she rubbed shoulders with the rich and the

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famous, she did that in a very annoying way and often said, and she

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wrote to President George Bush and Saddam Hussein in 1991, when the war

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happened, saying, I appeal to you for peace. She did say, if people

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were to come to her with their money, irrespective of how ill

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begotten that money was, she felt that gave it a channel to allow that

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money to then be used for more compassionate and good causes, she

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was compassionate to the point of naivete, and she ran the risk of

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being criticised because she was compassionate without exception. Did

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you challenge her on her anti-abortion stance, for example? I

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did not. I was a teenager and quite young when she passed away. But I do

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understand that her stance on abortion came from her fundamental

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religious conditioning and she did not make it a problem whereas we

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understand it's important to look at the concept of abortion and see how

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it intersects with other social economic factors, factors of gender,

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a woman's choice over her body, whereas she took an entirely

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overarching compassionate stance where she said all life is sacred

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including that of a foetus. Paul, you've talked about the time as an

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issue for you, but do you think she should be made a saint? She could

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possibly be made a saint in 100 years' time, without any of this

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controversy, and my concern is that this kind of controversy discredits

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the Catholic canonisation process in the eyes of the wider world. I think

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it would have been sensible and prudent to have waited a bit longer.

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Thank you very much indeed for coming into the studio.

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Do you have surgery planned this autumn?

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Are you worried that your operation will be cancelled because

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of the junior doctors' plans for strike action?

:53:36.:53:37.

Hashtag victorialive or text us on 61124.

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We'll be discussing that around 10am.

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A ?20 million fund and a new review board has been unveiled in a bid

:53:51.:53:53.

to improve Southern rail services and 'get to grips' with

:53:54.:53:56.

Its profits have soared to ?99.8 million, a rise of 27%.

:53:57.:54:05.

The government action comes after months of disruption,

:54:06.:54:07.

strikes and a reduced service on rail routes in south London,

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The Chief Executive has turned down a bonus and a pay rise. We can speak

:54:11.:54:24.

to Peter Eisenach now, a customer of Southern rail who I presume is

:54:25.:54:28.

pretty fed up this morning? Yes, an understatement. It has been hell,

:54:29.:54:34.

the last few months. But I think what we have got... It's very good

:54:35.:54:41.

to give up his bonus but my fares have up by 3%, so I'm still paying

:54:42.:54:45.

more for a service that is not delivering what it should do.

:54:46.:54:48.

Explain to people who don't use it, or don't understand how awful it's

:54:49.:54:53.

been, what is your average commute? My commute is two hours. The actual

:54:54.:54:57.

train journey itself should be less than one hour. It never is. What

:54:58.:55:02.

happens is, you have to get on an earlier train to work to ensure you

:55:03.:55:06.

are there on time. I have meetings that can't be cancelled at such, and

:55:07.:55:11.

you tend to leave work later in the hope and expectation you will get

:55:12.:55:15.

home but you never get home when you are supposed to. Your day is

:55:16.:55:19.

elongated, your ability to ensure you are at a meeting at a set time

:55:20.:55:24.

often means it's not possible. You can't often get a seat and its the

:55:25.:55:31.

irregularity of the whole service. It's deplorable. It shows no sign of

:55:32.:55:37.

getting better. It seems curious that you read these profits, a rise

:55:38.:55:42.

of 27%, and just yesterday the government was saying, here are some

:55:43.:55:45.

money to sort out which would suggest maybe money is not the issue

:55:46.:55:49.

here. There are three main issues in this deplorable situation. The first

:55:50.:55:53.

issue sorted if the ongoing dispute with the unions, which, until it

:55:54.:55:59.

sorted, the fundamental issue will not go away, so you've got to get

:56:00.:56:03.

that done and the politicians need to ban some heads and sort that out.

:56:04.:56:08.

The second issue is often overlooked, the infrastructure.

:56:09.:56:13.

Network Rail, who police the tracks and signals, we have got a Victorian

:56:14.:56:18.

infrastructure, decades of underfunding, and a lot of the

:56:19.:56:21.

delays are down to signal failures or sink holes, and any other type of

:56:22.:56:29.

excuse, it's too hot, cold, leaves on the line, we've all been there.

:56:30.:56:33.

I'm sure my fellow commuters will raise a wry smile. The third issue,

:56:34.:56:38.

one which is not often talked about, is the Southern rail, when they took

:56:39.:56:42.

over the franchise, misinterpreted a number of drivers they needed, not

:56:43.:56:47.

enough, so they rely on the good nature of people. And of course, it

:56:48.:56:55.

takes nine months to train driver, so this issue is ongoing and will

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take time, but the union peace can be sorted quickly. The

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infrastructure will take longer and the train drivers, hopefully, sooner

:57:07.:57:11.

than later. Peter, and well done for getting in. It sounds like it's not

:57:12.:57:15.

always possible on time. Still to come, Donald Trump 's wife is suing

:57:16.:57:20.

the Daily Mail for alleging she worked as an escort back in the

:57:21.:57:24.

1990s. We will get the latest from our correspondence.

:57:25.:57:27.

Let's get the latest weather update with Alex Deakin.

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Alex, Hurricane Hermeen has made landfall in Florida?

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It's looking pretty grim. Yes, fascinating night but worrying if

:57:34.:57:40.

you are in Florida. The Harry Kane has been developing over the past

:57:41.:57:44.

few days. It has hit in the last few hours in North Florida -- Harry

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Kane. -- Harry these are the pictures, you can see

:57:47.:57:56.

the trees getting blown around. In terms of its wind strength, it's not

:57:57.:58:00.

that powerful, only a category one storm. -- hurricane. Presumably some

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holiday-makers could still be there? Terrifying if you've never

:58:11.:58:15.

experienced it. This is the first hurricane to hit Florida directly

:58:16.:58:19.

for 11 years, so we haven't seen this kind of thing for a while and

:58:20.:58:23.

it's been fascinating to watch it through the night. The storm has

:58:24.:58:30.

been gradually improving. The sea is pitifully warmer. You can see the

:58:31.:58:33.

eye of the storm there as it made landfall. It is now weakened and

:58:34.:58:39.

it's not even a hurricane any more, just a tropical storm. It's not the

:58:40.:58:42.

wind which will cause the problem but the rain. It's swinging its way

:58:43.:58:49.

across northern Florida, torrential rain, a couple of inches, and we

:58:50.:58:54.

could see downpours over the next 24 hours or so. Very heavy rain,

:58:55.:58:58.

coupled with a storm surge, where the seas surged up because of the

:58:59.:59:01.

low pressure. That will cause further issues. I'll be at the start

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of Harry Kane season? This is the peak. -- hurricane season? This is

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Hermeen. It started that letter a each year? The last one was Wilma.

:59:21.:59:29.

That was 2005. It won't be a storm any more in terms of wind strength

:59:30.:59:34.

but very heavy rain coming into the Carolinas in the next couple of

:59:35.:59:38.

days. We could see close to 400 millimetres of rain. A

:59:39.:59:46.

life-threatening storm surge in the USA, so travel disruption at the

:59:47.:59:50.

very least and the potential for tornadoes as well. We will give a

:59:51.:59:54.

close eye on it for the next 24 hours but back home across the UK,

:59:55.:59:59.

nothing quite bad lively. Low pressure systems to track and the

:00:00.:00:01.

weather front of dribbling southward across England and Wales providing a

:00:02.:00:05.

bit more cloud and a few outbreaks of rain here in there. Some

:00:06.:00:09.

brightness as well across England and Wales. For Scotland and Northern

:00:10.:00:13.

Ireland, some sunshine but also a few showers coming in, scattered

:00:14.:00:18.

about, so it won't rain all day and actually, northern England, Wales

:00:19.:00:20.

and the south-west of England, brightening up, and a pleasant

:00:21.:00:24.

evening across Devon and Cornwall and most of Wales. For the Midlands,

:00:25.:00:28.

East Anglia and the south-east, a cracking day yesterday but different

:00:29.:00:32.

today, with rain and drizzle, nothing too heavy. Northern England,

:00:33.:00:36.

Dell, damp morning and further north, sunny spells and some

:00:37.:00:40.

showers. Showers most frequent in the north and west. North-east

:00:41.:00:46.

Scotland could stay dry. Through the evening, the cloud and rain on and

:00:47.:00:51.

off, and drizzle, will clear away, not completely until midnight and

:00:52.:00:54.

the showers will go in the far north-west of the most of us, a dry

:00:55.:00:58.

night with clear skies, light wind and a comfortable night. Not as warm

:00:59.:01:03.

as lately, down to 13-14, so that's how we go into Saturday. The weekend

:01:04.:01:09.

starts dry and fine but we have a complication, and messy picture,

:01:10.:01:12.

this developing weather system, which has been keeping us on our

:01:13.:01:15.

toes throughout the week as to when the rain will arrive and it looks

:01:16.:01:19.

like most of us will start sunny on Saturday but the rain pushed and

:01:20.:01:22.

Northern Ireland, Wales and south-west England through the

:01:23.:01:25.

morning and spreads its way into southern Scotland eventually into

:01:26.:01:28.

eastern England through the day. The south-east may well not see the rain

:01:29.:01:32.

until the evening and north-east Scotland should be a fine day. For

:01:33.:01:36.

most, it turns wet and windy during Saturday. All that wind and rain is

:01:37.:01:40.

heading towards Denmark by Sunday. We are left behind with a few

:01:41.:01:44.

showers, particularly in the east, and a cool breeze blowing but

:01:45.:01:48.

certainly for Northern Ireland, Wales and south-west England, after

:01:49.:01:51.

a wet Sunday, Sunday looks like being a much drier and brighter day,

:01:52.:01:55.

so all in all, the weekend is a complicated picture. It starts dry

:01:56.:01:58.

and sunny on Saturday but we will see some rain on Sunday but many of

:01:59.:02:04.

us it looks like being the dry and brighter day. More updates

:02:05.:02:08.

throughout the day on ABC News and BBC weather website about that storm

:02:09.:02:09.

in the USA. Welcome to the programme

:02:10.:02:14.

if you have just joined us. Coming up: Patient groups warn

:02:15.:02:18.

of a catastrophic impact on safety over junior doctors' plans

:02:19.:02:21.

for a wave of strike action It's one year since the shocking

:02:22.:02:23.

image of three-year-old Syrian refugee Aylan Kurdi who drowned

:02:24.:02:34.

trying to cross to Europe. Looking back at this period we will

:02:35.:02:47.

be really ashamed of ourselves if history says these children were

:02:48.:02:51.

suffering in these numbers to this extent and we did nothing as a

:02:52.:02:53.

country. I don't think people want to be in a country that has that

:02:54.:02:55.

reputation. Donald Trump's wife sues

:02:56.:03:04.

the Daily Mail over an article suggesting she worked as an escort

:03:05.:03:08.

in the 1990s. Here's Ben in the newsroom

:03:09.:03:11.

with a summary of today's news. Some of the country's most senior

:03:12.:03:14.

medical leaders have condemned the series of strikes planned

:03:15.:03:19.

by junior doctors in England, as the row over a new

:03:20.:03:21.

contract intensifies. A week of strikes this month will be

:03:22.:03:24.

followed by three more five-day walkouts in October,

:03:25.:03:28.

November and December. The Academy of Medical Royal

:03:29.:03:31.

Colleges says the proposed action One of the organisations

:03:32.:03:37.

which represents charities that support patients has told this

:03:38.:03:40.

programme further talks are needed. We are very concerned about this

:03:41.:03:52.

huge escalation in the industrial dispute and frustrated, given that a

:03:53.:03:56.

deal was very close to being settled earlier in the summer. There is no

:03:57.:04:00.

end in sight to these strikes. They will have an impact on patients. We

:04:01.:04:03.

can't be sure exactly what the impact will be. It depends on how

:04:04.:04:11.

well the NHS contingency planning is, but kerb concerned and would

:04:12.:04:14.

like doctors to call off the strike and both sides to get back around

:04:15.:04:16.

the negotiating table. Over 100 faith leaders,

:04:17.:04:19.

council chiefs and celebrities will gather outside the Home Office

:04:20.:04:21.

today, to call on the government to bring 387 refugee children

:04:22.:04:24.

over from Calais. They say the children

:04:25.:04:26.

are all eligible to come here. The groups are gathering one year

:04:27.:04:30.

after the Syrian refugee boy Aylan Kurdi washed up

:04:31.:04:34.

on a Turkish beach. A 23-year-old man has been charged

:04:35.:04:38.

in connection with the deaths of a boy and his aunt,

:04:39.:04:41.

who were hit by a car being chased by police in south-east

:04:42.:04:44.

London on Wednesday. Makayah McDermott and Rosie Cooper

:04:45.:04:46.

were walking along a road Joshua Dobby, of no fixed abode,

:04:47.:04:49.

is due to appear before Bromley Magistrates today to face

:04:50.:04:55.

two counts of death A state of emergency has been

:04:56.:04:57.

declared in Florida Schools and government offices have

:04:58.:05:06.

been closed and thousands It was originally classified as a

:05:07.:05:21.

hurricane but has been downgraded now.

:05:22.:05:25.

with murder over the death of a banker believed to have been

:05:26.:05:29.

Oliver Dearlove died after allegedly being hit by a man

:05:30.:05:33.

while waiting for a taxi on a night out in Blackheath in

:05:34.:05:35.

A post-mortem examination gave the provisional cause

:05:36.:05:38.

The electronics company Samsung is to announce a recall of some

:05:39.:05:43.

of its mobile phones, after reports of the devices

:05:44.:05:45.

The global recall is of the Galaxy Note 7 smartphone.

:05:46.:05:53.

Samsung will be replacing the batteries in these devices,

:05:54.:05:56.

after some exploded, or replacing them with completely new phones.

:05:57.:06:00.

It's also temporarily halting sales of the phone.

:06:01.:06:07.

Melania Trump - the wife of the Republican presidential

:06:08.:06:10.

candidate Donald Trump - is suing the Daily Mail

:06:11.:06:17.

libel saying the newspaper alleged that she was an escort

:06:18.:06:26.

Her lawyer says such claims are a hundred per cent false.

:06:27.:06:32.

The Mail Online has retracted any suggestion the

:06:33.:06:34.

More than two and half billion people around the world may be

:06:35.:06:37.

vulnerable to outbreaks of the Zika virus -

:06:38.:06:39.

according to a new study into the disease.

:06:40.:06:42.

Scientists say countries in Africa and Asia are most at risk and warn

:06:43.:06:44.

it could be hard to prevent, detect and respond to epidemics.

:06:45.:06:47.

The action movie star Jackie Chan, is getting an honorary Oscar

:06:48.:06:50.

for his "extraordinary achievements" in film.

:06:51.:06:51.

has starred in dozens of martial arts films in his native Hong Kong.

:06:52.:06:55.

He went on to huge international success with hits including

:06:56.:06:58.

the Rush Hour franchise, Shanghai Noon, The Karate Kid, and

:06:59.:07:00.

That's the latest news. More from me at half past.

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Don't forget to get in touch with us throughout the programme. One thing

:07:12.:07:17.

we are talk being is this junior doctors strike. There will be three

:07:18.:07:22.

more extra strikes in October and Nev and December. As a retired nurse

:07:23.:07:27.

concerned about improving quality of patient care I support the proposed

:07:28.:07:31.

action of junior doctors against the Government's new contracts. Sue got

:07:32.:07:35.

in touch on e-mail, I am due to have an operation on 14th September, my

:07:36.:07:38.

husband has booked holiday so he can look after me when I come home. If

:07:39.:07:42.

my operation is rescheduled his company will not reschedule his

:07:43.:07:45.

holiday. He is going to have to take it. When I finally do have my

:07:46.:07:49.

operation he will have to take unpaid leave which will hurt us

:07:50.:07:56.

financially. Another couple here, e-mail, fund resource and recruit a

:07:57.:07:59.

seven-day NHS before you impose it. Bill on e-mail t should be noted

:08:00.:08:06.

that the junior doctors will be striking for five days, they don't

:08:07.:08:11.

want to miss extra pay for weekend work. Let's get all the sport now.

:08:12.:08:18.

For the first time since 1968 there are three British men in the third

:08:19.:08:22.

round of the US Open. Kyle Edmund has been joined in the last 32 by

:08:23.:08:27.

Andy Murray and Dan Evans who secured one of the biggest wins of

:08:28.:08:39.

his career. He beat Alexander Zverev, considered

:08:40.:08:42.

one of the game's brightest young talents.

:08:43.:08:52.

Andy Murray said it was hard to hear during his victory over Marcel

:08:53.:08:58.

Granollers that it felt he was wearing headphones. They were

:08:59.:09:03.

playing under the new roof. He pointed out that players use their

:09:04.:09:05.

ears to help pick up speed and movement of the ball. When the rain

:09:06.:09:13.

came it was certainly loud. I mean, you couldn't hear anything. So, I

:09:14.:09:20.

mean you could hear the line calls but not so much when the opponent

:09:21.:09:24.

was hitting the ball or even when you are hitting the ball really

:09:25.:09:28.

which is tough, because purely because we are not used to it.

:09:29.:09:36.

That's what makes it challenging. There was a defeat for Naomi Broady.

:09:37.:09:58.

She lost in straight sets to world number four Radwanska.

:09:59.:10:02.

There were no broken records this time butted in's cricketers beat

:10:03.:10:06.

Pakistan by four wickets at Headingley. Victory at Old Trafford

:10:07.:10:11.

next Wednesday would give England a 5-0 series whitewash.

:10:12.:10:15.

Britain's Laura Muin says there is little for her to improve ahead of

:10:16.:10:19.

next year's World Championships in London after she rounded off her

:10:20.:10:22.

season in amazing style. Second place in Zurich was enough for her

:10:23.:10:28.

to take the diamond league 1500 metres title from the Olympic

:10:29.:10:37.

champion. Chris Froome is still in contention

:10:38.:10:41.

to complete the grand tour double. The Tour de France champion remains

:10:42.:10:46.

second in the Vuelta in Spain after the 12th stage. 54 seconds behind

:10:47.:11:01.

the overall leader Nairo Quintana. Double Paralympic champion Hannah

:11:02.:11:06.

Cockroft says it would be devastating if the crowds were

:11:07.:11:10.

sparse in Rio this month. She says the build-up to the Games has been

:11:11.:11:15.

low key but she believes the enthusiasm is rising. I believe that

:11:16.:11:19.

we have the support there, the ticket sales have been increasing

:11:20.:11:22.

massively. Everyone is doing their bit now to push it forward. The only

:11:23.:11:30.

thing that's going to make it a successful Games, as long as

:11:31.:11:33.

athletes put the best performances in they can that's what a successful

:11:34.:11:36.

Games is. That's all the sport. The headlines

:11:37.:11:38.

in 20 minutes, see you then. Leading members of the medical

:11:39.:11:44.

profession have raised concerns about the fresh series of strikes

:11:45.:11:46.

planned by junior The Academy of Medical Royal

:11:47.:11:48.

Colleges has warned about the impact of sustained industrial

:11:49.:11:52.

action on patients. The junior doctors

:11:53.:11:53.

insist the new contract, which is at the heart

:11:54.:11:55.

of their dispute with the government, puts

:11:56.:11:57.

patients at risk by imposing change with

:11:58.:11:59.

insufficient resources. Here are the details

:12:00.:12:00.

of the planned industrial action Junior doctors in England will walk

:12:01.:12:13.

out for five days from 8.00 am on 12th September.

:12:14.:12:15.

Unless industrial action is suspended or called off another

:12:16.:12:18.

strike is planned from Wednesday 5th October to Tuesday 11th.

:12:19.:12:22.

In November, junior doctors plan to walk out for another five days from

:12:23.:12:28.

Monday 14th. In the run-up to Christmas they're proposing to

:12:29.:12:30.

strike from Monday 5th December until Friday 9th.

:12:31.:12:35.

With me now is our Health Editor, Hugh Pym, Liz McAnulty

:12:36.:12:38.

who is a Trustee of the Patients Association.

:12:39.:12:40.

And from Worcester - Stephen Dorrell - former

:12:41.:12:42.

Conservative MP and Health Secretary who is now chair of the NHS

:12:43.:12:45.

Confederation, which speaks on behalf of organisations that

:12:46.:12:47.

plan, commission and provide NHS services.

:12:48.:12:52.

Hugh, first of all, take us through this. Obviously, it's early days,

:12:53.:13:00.

but I presume this is going to have a huge impact on routine operations,

:13:01.:13:04.

doctors appointments within hospitals? Well, that's right. We

:13:05.:13:12.

have seen this before. We have had two all-out strikes -- that was back

:13:13.:13:16.

in April and thousands of postponed operations and appointments. It's

:13:17.:13:21.

estimated in the coming weeks, action on September 12th, five days,

:13:22.:13:25.

longer than last time, there will be something like 30,000 routine

:13:26.:13:29.

operations and pieces of surgery postponed and thousands more

:13:30.:13:32.

outpatient appointments. If you multiply by the extra strikes we

:13:33.:13:35.

have heard about in October and November and December you get up to

:13:36.:13:40.

something like 100,000 postponed routine operations. It does have a

:13:41.:13:45.

big impact on patients. That being said, emergency care will be covered

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by consultants and it's important to point that out, anyone who needs to

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go to accident and emergency will be looked after. Most hospitals coped

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pretty well with that side of things when this happened in April. Liz,

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this is a real worry. I read a couple of comments out before from

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people saying I have a routine operation, my husband's taking time

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off work, maybe you have kids, whatever it is, you have plans in

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place. It's hugely disruptive. And could potentially mean people don't

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support the junior doctors any more? Well, that's not surprising that

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people are very concerned about it and very concerned for themselves,

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number one. But yes, there is a risk that the doctors will lose support.

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They have had huge support, as have all of the health service

:14:34.:14:38.

professionals and staff who are working in increasingly difficult

:14:39.:14:42.

circumstances. But, for the patients now, there are five days, 30,000 as

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you said in the first five days, that's not just the 30,000

:14:51.:14:53.

individuals affected but all their families and in many cases people

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with small businesses where they have to inform clients. It causes

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absolute havoc for the patients. People are worried, as one of the

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Patients' Association reports showed a few weeks ago, already many

:15:08.:15:12.

thousands of patients are waiting much longer than the maximum time

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for knee, hip operations, things that debilitate patients. They're

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now going to have to wait even longer as a result of this. So, yes,

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it's devastating. Let's bring in Stephen Doll, former

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Health Secretary. The fact junior doctors are taking this action, it

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shows how worried they are about this new contract. I think the two

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points I want to make. It has the Academy of Royal oncology, the

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professional leadership of the medical profession, that said today

:15:47.:15:50.

this action is disproportionate. I completely agree with that. You

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describe the new junior doctor contract in your introduction as the

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government contract but actually this is a contract that is being

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negotiated over a very long period, measured in years, and in the

:16:04.:16:07.

concluding stages of that process, it wasn't the government, but the

:16:08.:16:14.

independent ACAS, mediation service, chaired by Sir Brendan Barber,

:16:15.:16:19.

former general secretary of the TUC, so not an instinctive supporter of

:16:20.:16:23.

this government. Add to that process came a contract which, three months

:16:24.:16:27.

ago, the leadership of the BMA themselves said was a good deal for

:16:28.:16:32.

junior doctors. It is against that background I think the move from

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industrial action in the first half of this year to considerably worse

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industrial action in the second half of this year is rightly described as

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disproportionate. As Stephen Dobell points out, the BMA recommended

:16:50.:16:55.

junior doctors signed up to it so it's confusing for people to work

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out why they are striking. It's confusing. The Academy got everyone

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around the table and a deal was done and the BMA leadership signed up to

:17:06.:17:08.

it with the government falls the junior doctor leaders then went

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around the country and said it was a good deal, but the membership voted

:17:12.:17:15.

against it and the BMA are saying, OK, we did what we thought was a

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good deal, but if 58% vote against, that's what the members want, we

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have to reflect their views, so the majority want to go back to the

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negotiating table although the government understandably are

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saying, what's the point of negotiating and they can't sell it

:17:32.:17:39.

to the members? Surely the key issue here is that a responsible trade

:17:40.:17:41.

union, which is what the BMA normally is, would then talk to its

:17:42.:17:48.

members, not as Mark Porter said on the radio yesterday, throw out the

:17:49.:17:50.

whole of this process and start again, move away from incremental

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eyes Asian, as he put it, but would seek to demonstrate the deal that

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they did in the context of the independent conciliation service,

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the deal they did, which may be, with a couple of tweaks, that deal

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should be a continuation to recommend the deal they did to their

:18:15.:18:23.

members. The emphasis is on the contract, the junior doctors

:18:24.:18:25.

contract, but the Secretary of State, when introducing it, it is to

:18:26.:18:31.

enable doctors to provide a seven-day service. Well, the

:18:32.:18:37.

difficulty we see from the Patients' Association is we are already

:18:38.:18:42.

hearing from thousands of people a year about how the service is

:18:43.:18:45.

creaking at the seams already on a five-day service. So we cannot

:18:46.:18:53.

understand how the health service can expand to provide this service

:18:54.:18:58.

without extra resources McGovern would've said there will be no extra

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resources for this, so the contract and the blame game going on between

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the Department of Health officials, the Secretary of State and doctors,

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is going on and on and is very protracted but underneath all of the

:19:13.:19:16.

squabbling, and blaming, many thousands of patients every day are

:19:17.:19:21.

suffering as a result of a creaking service in many parts of the NHS,

:19:22.:19:27.

AMD, GPs, mental health services, I could go on. What we really wish for

:19:28.:19:34.

is that the Department of Health, the Secretary of State, the doctors,

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would sit down today to stop the devastation which is going to occur,

:19:39.:19:43.

and solve the immediate problem, but that will only be the tip of the

:19:44.:19:47.

iceberg. They need to look at the wider issues that are causing

:19:48.:19:52.

serious problems for patients in health and social care. This issue

:19:53.:19:59.

of a seven-day NHS in England, it wasn't a Conservative manifesto is

:20:00.:20:02.

the government feels it has a mandate to deliberate, but it has

:20:03.:20:06.

got very confused in its argument over the contract which is a

:20:07.:20:11.

technocratic issue, detail about how doctors are remunerated at different

:20:12.:20:14.

times. The government says we need the contract but has not really

:20:15.:20:18.

explained how they are linked and junior doctors are saying we work

:20:19.:20:22.

anyway at weekends and this contract is nothing to do with seven days, so

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I think the message has not been handled particularly well and has

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allowed the junior doctors to say we are not convinced by this policy so

:20:31.:20:34.

therefore we have major doubt about the contract. Stephen Doll, what is

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the situation now for Jeremy Hunt? He, as the Health Secretary,

:20:43.:20:49.

negotiated this contract and now his situation is looking untenable? His

:20:50.:20:59.

position is not relevant in this. It is relevant. His position is

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relevant because many junior doctors say that it's Jeremy Hunt himself

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and was causing the problems here and actually, if he was removed,

:21:07.:21:11.

maybe they could make some progress. But we can't have a position where

:21:12.:21:16.

one part of the workforce of the NHS is going on strike because they

:21:17.:21:20.

don't think the Prime Minister has made the right appointment as

:21:21.:21:26.

Secretary of State for Health. This is an argument about the terms in

:21:27.:21:30.

which people, the junior doctors, are working under contract. I agree

:21:31.:21:35.

that it's a major distraction to be talking in this context about

:21:36.:21:40.

seven-day working. The exchanges between the junior doctor leadership

:21:41.:21:44.

on the leaked what SAP exchanges make crystal clear that this is an

:21:45.:21:50.

argument about money for junior doctors, nothing to do with the

:21:51.:21:56.

wider issues of the shape of services within the NHS and, in that

:21:57.:22:01.

dispute, this is what I think is unforgivable. Against the background

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of a long process that ended conciliation, recommended by the

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BMA, we are now seeing patients, the quality of service delivered to

:22:12.:22:15.

patients, put unnecessarily at risk at the choice of the BMA. Stephen

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Dobell, thank you. We are encouraging patients if they want to

:22:26.:22:28.

contact us for advice, to call the helpline. 0208, 429 999. And for us

:22:29.:22:38.

to advise them on how, obviously become do anything about providing

:22:39.:22:43.

an alternative to the surgery, but to advise them the best way to

:22:44.:22:47.

negotiate an alternative date should be cancelled. But we are acting on

:22:48.:22:54.

behalf of of patients to try and encourage all the bells and parties

:22:55.:22:58.

to try and sorted out as soon as possible. Thank you for coming in.

:22:59.:23:03.

An e-mail from Pauline, I fully support junior doctors, I have a

:23:04.:23:07.

number of health problems and often end up in hospital. Junior doctors

:23:08.:23:11.

do amazing work and the government should appreciate doctors before

:23:12.:23:15.

they look for work abroad. Who will look after patients then? Junior

:23:16.:23:19.

doctors are gone too far now, they have lost my support.

:23:20.:23:21.

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:23:27.:23:36.

This morning, Nicola Sturgeon will gather with her SNP MPs,

:23:37.:23:41.

MSPs and MEPS to begin talks about the road to a possible second

:23:42.:23:44.

It's now nearly two years since Scotland voted to stay in the UK

:23:45.:23:57.

55%. On September 18th 2014

:23:58.:24:00.

the Scottish people voted to stay part of the UK -

:24:01.:24:01.

55.3% voted to stay with the Union, A huge 84% of those eligible to vote

:24:02.:24:05.

turned out to have their say - the highest ever referendum

:24:06.:24:10.

turnout in the UK. Two years on, and Brexit

:24:11.:24:12.

on everyone's minds - what are the chances Nicola Sturgeon

:24:13.:24:14.

will call a second Referendum? And would the Scottish people vote

:24:15.:24:16.

differently now than In Edinburgh, is Adarsh Sekhar

:24:17.:24:20.

who voted for Independence in 2014, Judy Lockhart who voted to remain

:24:21.:24:24.

part of the UK and thinks there shouldn't be a second

:24:25.:24:28.

referendum at all. Asma Butt, who lives in Aberdeen

:24:29.:24:30.

but is in Salford this morning voted to stay with the UK in 2014

:24:31.:24:33.

but now regrets that. He voted for Scottish independence

:24:34.:24:38.

and says he would again Elaine Martay, is in Dumfries

:24:39.:24:43.

and thinks Scotland It was a Yes to independence

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for her. And finally, Fiona Grace

:24:49.:24:53.

is in St Andrews this morning. She voted to remain in the UK

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IN 2014 but says she would vote to leave if there

:24:57.:24:59.

was another referendum. Thank you all for joining us today.

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I'm interested first of all that you voted to stay just two years ago but

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you are regretting it. Tell me why. I wouldn't exactly say I'm

:25:17.:25:20.

regretting it, rather I feel like what has happened is people have

:25:21.:25:25.

been told that certain things would come as a result of voting to remain

:25:26.:25:31.

in the independence referendum and less than two years later, things

:25:32.:25:35.

actually changed and they changed a lot worse. I feel like that was the

:25:36.:25:41.

result of unfortunately Conservative MPs coming up to Scotland, telling

:25:42.:25:47.

us one thing and then going back down south, having a general

:25:48.:25:51.

election and deciding, actually, to save our own party we need to put

:25:52.:25:56.

the Scottish people to one side. I think it was a massive error of

:25:57.:25:59.

judgment on David Cameron 's part. And it is why eventually led to his

:26:00.:26:04.

exit from number ten and I think that's why, now Scotland is in a

:26:05.:26:09.

position again where we can ask the people, do you still feel the way

:26:10.:26:15.

you felt two years ago? You effectively feel like to? You were

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nodding your head. Yes, I think we were lied to all the time.

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Especially by the Tories. Explain more. Many people would say actually

:26:29.:26:36.

they came out, said there would be more autonomy for Scotland, they

:26:37.:26:39.

haven't gone back on that, so why do you feel lied to? Because they

:26:40.:26:47.

seemed to really make it very frightening to people that the

:26:48.:26:51.

economy would collapse, that we would not be allowed to have our own

:26:52.:27:04.

money. It is all terribly exaggerated. It was also very

:27:05.:27:09.

exaggerated in the media about the amount of violence and hatred going

:27:10.:27:16.

on during the whole referendum when, in fact, it is extremely civilised.

:27:17.:27:21.

And the only person who made that clear was Johnson oh. I can see Judy

:27:22.:27:28.

is pulling faces -- Johnson oh. Speak directly to a layman. I live

:27:29.:27:36.

in Glasgow and was a lot of violence in Glasgow, as somebody supporting

:27:37.:27:42.

remaining in the UK, I felt like I got a lot of abuse and I know a lot

:27:43.:27:45.

of people who would tell people they were voting for independence just

:27:46.:27:49.

because they didn't want to face abuse. Glasgow has its own

:27:50.:27:55.

particular problems and it isn't representative of the whole of

:27:56.:27:59.

Scotland. We have got the largest section of voters. But still not the

:28:00.:28:06.

whole of Scotland. While you can't sailor was no violence when I

:28:07.:28:10.

experienced it. Certainly I wasn't exposed to any. I'm keen for you all

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to speak to one another. Fiona, tell us your thoughts. In terms of

:28:16.:28:29.

violence, it tore families apart. Personally, I voted to remain in the

:28:30.:28:34.

UK because I wanted to be part of an outward looking country, not a

:28:35.:28:38.

separatist one. The deal-breaker for me was remaining in the EU. I very

:28:39.:28:48.

much agree that I felt lied to. The political landscape has changed

:28:49.:28:52.

entirely. So I feel a second referendum is important so the

:28:53.:28:56.

people of Scotland's voice can be heard. They both reflect a lot of

:28:57.:29:04.

thoughts of a lot of friends of mine who also voted to remain and are

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more on the fence this time, because two years ago, it was very much, in

:29:10.:29:14.

terms of the life of Tories said, it was mainly around, in 2014, the idea

:29:15.:29:20.

was very much if you vote to leave, the EU won't take you in, they would

:29:21.:29:25.

be a lot of uncertainty were as now that has flipped and there's a lot

:29:26.:29:28.

of uncertainty in Britain right now, and suddenly, an independent

:29:29.:29:33.

Scotland seems much more likely to be in the EU than Britain would, so

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that the main issue. In justice and lies people might be referring to. I

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don't think that's fair to call that lies because David Cameron campaign

:29:45.:29:47.

to stay in and many people said he was quite shocked when there was a

:29:48.:29:51.

Brexit vote, so I'm not sure it's fair to say it's alive. I think

:29:52.:29:55.

maybe lie is the wrong word, but you can't deny the landscape has

:29:56.:29:58.

changed. Especially given that Scotland voted 60% to stay in, so I

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don't know if it's the media but the appetite for a new referendum is

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definitely there because of those changes in terms and a lot of

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friends are agreeing with that. I want to bring in Abdul because he's

:30:16.:30:16.

not had a say. Go ahead, Abdul. The thing about violence, I was at a

:30:17.:30:29.

few gatherings at George Square in Glasgow and there was violence

:30:30.:30:34.

there, but it wasn't certainly from the Yes side. I remember

:30:35.:30:37.

particularly there was like a certain football club was playing at

:30:38.:30:44.

the time and then after a football match they all gathered. The police

:30:45.:30:49.

cordoned a tough. It was kind of scarupy but it certainly wasn't from

:30:50.:30:52.

the Yes side there was violence. Even on the day of the referendum,

:30:53.:30:56.

so again it was very peaceful. There was music playing, that kind of

:30:57.:30:59.

stuff, but as soon as the result started to come in the violence

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started to happen and you seen again it was actually the same group of

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people that were doing the violence. It was actually those who voted to

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Remain in the UK, if I am honest. A couple of points, the first about

:31:16.:31:18.

the violence, that was what we were talking about. In terms of the

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violence I think it's actually an arbitary line to draw, talking about

:31:25.:31:28.

violence as if it only happened with Remain voters and Yes voters. I

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don't think that's the case. I think what happened was it was an

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emotional debate. What we were asked when it came to the independence

:31:35.:31:38.

referendum was a question on how do you see your future, how do you see

:31:39.:31:43.

the future of your children and the next generation coming up? How do

:31:44.:31:47.

you understand that? The fact that 16 and 17-year-olds were allowed to

:31:48.:31:51.

vote added to that emotion. Actually it was the narrative that was being

:31:52.:31:56.

set which made it more emotional which then caused people to feel

:31:57.:31:59.

like actually I am being affronted, people are coming up to me and

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telling me that I am wrong or I need to shy away from actually exposing

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what my views are. Secondly, I really wanted to make a point about

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what Fiona was saying about being an outward looking nation and it's time

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to have a second referendum. I am a little bit on the fence as to

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whether we should have a second referendum. The reason for that is

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because I feel that if we do have a second referendum we are actually

:32:26.:32:30.

going to once again put the blanket over all the other issues going on

:32:31.:32:34.

in Scotland right now. We will again just talk about finances, talk about

:32:35.:32:40.

oil, talk about the fact that do we want the SNP to be the one-party of

:32:41.:32:47.

the nation? I think that's actually quite a problematic concept. What I

:32:48.:32:51.

think we should be doing in some respects I am torn, like I said, I

:32:52.:32:55.

think that we should really be focussing on the actual issues that

:32:56.:32:59.

are affecting people, like the fact that austerity hasn't meant that

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people in Glasgow, people in Aberdeen and the Highlands even feel

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connected to the central belt, especially Edinburgh. So, I think

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that we need to be looking a lot more broadly at some of the issues

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that have been quietened down in the last two years and meant that

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charity work has been put on the back burner for politics of the

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future. Everyone is nodding in agreement virtually as you talk

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about that as when you were talking about the emotion of the referendum.

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Fiona spoke about division with some families. Does Scotland really need

:33:33.:33:36.

another referendum? Isn't it a case of referendum fatigue? Judy is

:33:37.:33:40.

shaking her head. Scotland doesn't need a referendum. People should

:33:41.:33:44.

believe in democracy. Scotland voted to remain in the United Kingdom.

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Prior to a lot of us being born we also had a referendum, well, a vote,

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I think it was in 1979 for devolution of powers and that didn't

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go through either. What do people want? Third time lucky, best of

:33:56.:34:00.

five? The people of Scotland have spoken. We haven't a vote every few

:34:01.:34:04.

years because people aren't happy with something. When Scotland voted

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to Remain, we voted to vote in nationwide vote as part of the UK,

:34:09.:34:15.

so when Brexit came along we voted and it wasn't Scotland voted this

:34:16.:34:18.

way, the people of the United Kingdom voted and democracy said we

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should leave. That doesn't mean we should then have another vote on

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independence in Scotland. You can't throw your toys out of the pram.

:34:27.:34:32.

There is far more pressing problems in Scotland, the SNP or if the SNP

:34:33.:34:36.

were put out, whoever the party is, at the moment SNP should be dealing

:34:37.:34:40.

with education, NHS, there is loads of things. Yet they keep pushing for

:34:41.:34:44.

independence. Scotland doesn't want it.

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In regards to democracy, what you were saying about 1970, it was made

:34:52.:35:01.

difficult. You had the 45%, a certain amount of people had to show

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up to turn out to vote. In regards to the SNP pushing the referendum

:35:09.:35:12.

agenda, I am a card-carrying member of the SNP but many points I

:35:13.:35:17.

disagree with, but certainly the SNP are right now they're not focussing

:35:18.:35:22.

on the referendum. They have a plan... They've started saying that

:35:23.:35:26.

they're going to start looking out... They already have a strategy

:35:27.:35:37.

in place, it's one of of the responsibilities, they are also

:35:38.:35:40.

governing confidently in education and in healthcare and in trying to

:35:41.:35:44.

do what they can for finance, as well. Just to say that the SNP is a

:35:45.:35:48.

one-party issue is not fair at all. They are trying to do it, they're

:35:49.:35:52.

trying to do a job here. It's not fair to say they're focussed on the

:35:53.:35:57.

referendum. I think it's fair to say the statistics would say they're not

:35:58.:36:02.

doing a good job. Democracy has spoken and I don't understand why

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anybody should think they're arrogant enough to say they're view

:36:06.:36:09.

is more important than the majority? I agree. I think that it's not so

:36:10.:36:15.

much that we are saying that the SNP is a one-issue party. What we are

:36:16.:36:20.

saying instead is that the SNP has a really Goodway of being able to

:36:21.:36:23.

control the narrative in Scotland and be able to say that look at us,

:36:24.:36:28.

we are the strongest party both for Scotland in Westminster and for the

:36:29.:36:35.

party in Scotland. So, they have in terms of competencies, they look

:36:36.:36:39.

competent. That's actually a fault of the other parties. We are not

:36:40.:36:42.

trying to take down the SNP or anything like that. It's not to say

:36:43.:36:46.

that the SNP is a one-party issue. Rather it's to say that the other

:36:47.:36:51.

issues, like health, like education, like local Government, are actually

:36:52.:36:54.

being put down. They're being put on the back burner. They're not in the

:36:55.:36:59.

media. That's because the media listens to what the SNP have to say

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and the SNP like to make headlines about independence. It's not about

:37:04.:37:07.

them being one issue, it's about them being able to control the

:37:08.:37:10.

narrative and hide their record. I have a feeling you could carry on

:37:11.:37:14.

talking for another half an hour. Sadly, we have to leave it there.

:37:15.:37:17.

People have been getting in touch with us. A tweet says, absolutely

:37:18.:37:23.

not. They've had their chance. Do we have a referendum until they get the

:37:24.:37:26.

answer they want? The whole of the UK should vote about Scotland,

:37:27.:37:30.

otherwise it's a minority to get to decide whether the UK should be

:37:31.:37:36.

broken up. Still to come:

:37:37.:37:41.

Donald Trump's wife, Melania, is suing the Daily Mail Online

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for alleging that she worked as an escort back in the nineties.

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At 10.50, we'll get the latest from our own correspondent.

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There's a new warning about Zika virus with a study claiming that

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a third of the world's population is vulnerable

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including tourist hotspots in India and Indonesia.

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We'll talk to the director of a travel clinic very shortly.

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We know that children from poorer areas often lag

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behind their classmates in terms of literacy.

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Now a charity project in London is managing to narrow the divide.

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Called The Doorstep Library, teams of volunteers take books

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to children on disadvantaged estates, to encourage

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It's working so well, the charity wants to expand.

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Lesley Ashmall spent the day with the volunteers.

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Once upon a time there were some children who didn't have any books.

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But then some strangers came knocking on their doors

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We are Doorstep Library and we are a charity in West London

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that takes books to children living in disadvantaged areas to inspire

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a love of reading and show children that books are an enjoyable

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Armed with second-hand and newly bought books,

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volunteers spend their evenings in poorer areas

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encouraging parents and children to read.

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And they are seeing remarkable results.

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I like books because they let you read properly.

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And has your reading improved since you started reading books?

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I don't know why I'm going to say this but I can't read

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You're reading this book, aren't you?

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So you are learning to read with the pictures in the book?

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Do you struggle with reading at school when other

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Is it quite difficult when other

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She was born with three holes in her heart so she's struggled

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So, when they come and read to her now, it's brilliant.

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She's gone up a level in her reading.

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And her confidence has got so much more.

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The same people come every Tuesday, and she enjoys it.

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She sits at the door waiting for them now.

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A recent Save The Children study showed that four out of ten children

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from poorer areas can't read well when they go to secondary school.

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But it is not always because of a lack of ambition.

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It has not taken the charity long to convince parents

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We visit the same families each week.

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Because the parents build up trust, we start getting them

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involved as well, and that's really our unique point,

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You are a volunteer, Allyson.

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You are one of many, there are about 50 of you.

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The fact it is so informal with the families.

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You can also over time see progress in the children.

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It's such pleasure, pulling out of a rucksack something

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The older girls are reading chapter books, but earlier chapter books,

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Many of the families on this estate don't speak English as their first

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language but that is not holding back the children.

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That was a big tongue twister, wasn't it?

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Do your teachers think you are good at reading now?

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Then we went with frog who jumped up on a lily pad and jumped up

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We should read because it helps you talk.

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And that is what is called the good news story.

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And you can share Lesley's film or watch again via our website -

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We've been reporting this morning that a third of the world's

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population could be at risk from Zika virus.

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It's the latest virus pandemic warning that's causing travellers

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A study found that India, Indonesia and Nigeria are some

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The first outbreak of the mosquito-borne disease was last

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year in Brazil, and since then, it's spread to other parts

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Researchers say it could be hard to prevent, detect

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First let's get more on this from our health

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Back to basics, remind everyone what zika is. It's a mosquito-borne virus

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and scientists have known of zika for the best part of 70 years. When

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you look at that, they know remarkably little about it. We are

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on a steep learning curve and that's because it's only really come to

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prominence as a public health concern in the last year or so

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because we have started seeing a lot of cases in south and central

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America, particularly in Brazil, and it's been linked to birth

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abnormalities, particularly underdevelopment of the brain in

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babies, the children of mothers who got Zika while pregnant. What the

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scientific community is trying to do is obviously look at prevention,

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find a vaccine, also look at cures, but also in the meantime look at

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where populations are vulnerable, who is at risk and where are they?

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What's what this Lancet paper has set out to do by doing some

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modelling, it's looked at the flight plans and patterns of people flying

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from Zika affected areas and it's looked at local populations, the

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density of populations, the types of mosquitos that could be around to

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carry the virus and on that basis have concluded in a worst case

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scenario really it could be up to 2. 6 billion people who could be

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vulnerable. So at an estimate? It's a serious

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piece of science but it's a exercise and researchers have acknowledged

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the weaknesses in their findings. There could be populations across

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the world of either had Zika would've been undetected in the past

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or had a similar virus which has given them immunity so they may not

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be vulnerable in the way people fear. That isn't dangerous to people

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who are not pregnant or wanting to get pregnant? If you and I got it,

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we'd be OK? There are no symptoms for the great majority and those who

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do develop symptoms normally get a rash, perhaps a headache and quickly

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moves on. But the problem is for women who are pregnant and if they

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develop Zika, of course the impact for their children in terms of their

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brain development. There are some instances also of problems, a

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disease called the Barry disease, nervous disorder, which can lead to

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paralysis that's been a small number of cases. Adam, thank you. Let's

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speak to some people in the studio. Here to talk about these finding

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is Dr Adam Kucharski, who researches Infectious Diseases

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at the London School of Hygiene And Dr Richard Dawood -

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the director of a travel clinic which advise patients

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travelling to these areas. Adam, first of all, if this kind of

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research helpful for people travelling around? Will it benefit

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people as they move around? Really, the main target of this research is

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health agencies. There's a lot of uncertainty at the moment about Zika

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in South America, recently in Miami and Singapore, and about where

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potentially it might go next so although this isn't saying they will

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be outbreaks in these areas, this potentially a lot of people at risk

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and agencies need to plan. For travellers, the main message is that

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this is a problem which needs to be monitored so if you are panning to

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go travelling and you are pregnant, looking to conceive, you should get

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advice on the areas you are going to, are they potentially having

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transmission at the moment? You say it's to help agencies with what can

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they do? We don't know that much about Zika. One of the big

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difficulties is diagnosing. A lot of the areas, they don't have good

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health patterns, the tests necessary to identify Zika, and the symptoms,

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fever, rash, quite generic, so to be able to confirm these are Zika

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infections and respond are important and some countries may not be able

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to do that. Are people considerably worried about this in your clinic?

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We see people heading to areas affected by Zika, particularly in

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Latin America, and some of them are having to reconsider their travel

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plans, especially if they are pregnant or wanting to conceive and

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that's fine. But also people who travel on business, who have

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compelling reasons to go, it's not always possible for people to modify

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the arrangement easily. They have to face some real difficult decisions

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about whether to go, when to go, how to plan, pregnancies, conception,

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sex, around travel plans, so it throws up some difficult dilemmas

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for them. I recently went to Rio with work and it was very clear, the

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instructions I had to wear long sleeves, trousers to my ankles,

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cover myself in insect repellent and avoid getting bitten. I normally

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attract a bite and I was not bitten at all, so you can protect yourself,

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but do you think the message is getting through? You can do a lot to

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protect yourself, and it's been shown using protection measures like

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insect repellent, covering up, can reduce the number of bytes by 90%,

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so that's a significant benefit. Bear in mind, in Rio, with the

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build-up to the Olympic Games, there was a massive effort to control the

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mosquito population locally and also it was the winter time, a cooler

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time of year. That's not always going to be the case. I just got

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back from Delhi, the end of monsoon season, rain everywhere, mosque Ito

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is out of control, and you can imagine, in a study, if the kind of

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environment where, with the best possible will in the world, it's not

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really going to be possible to control Zika if it was to hit that

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mega urban city environment. I think this is a huge wake-up call to

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public health authorities in such an environment and when you look at the

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situation in Singapore, where there has been in the past week, 40 cases

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and 80 cases are now 120 cases reported, and news of a case

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imported from Malaysia, Singapore is very self-contained and prepared for

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the arrival of Zika for many months, they have a fabulous health

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infrastructure and mosque Ito control and even in that environment

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it is spreading. I think we do have to be very concerned that this is

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something which is going global. We need to prepare ourselves for it, we

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need to spend money now to stop ourselves from having to spend the

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money later looking after damaged babies. Adam, we were talking to our

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health correspondence about immunity. How clear is it whether

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there is any immunity within a community exposed for long periods

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of time? This figure is making an assumption that Zika is similar to

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dengue fever, they come from the same family, so maybe there is a

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cross protection. If you have had one, maybe you will get protection

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to the other. There's a lot of variability, and could it be it

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depends what circulated previously. This is an area of research we are

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trying to understand. A vaccine, is that likely? There are vaccines in

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development but the timescale we are talking is many years. It's likely

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the initial trials in humans start next year, but of course, the time

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we need to demonstrate the vaccine works effectively isn't something we

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concede in the coming months. How worried are you as somebody who

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understands the Zika virus about these warnings? You look at the

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figures in this report, a couple of billion people and it sounds

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terrifying to people who don't understand Zika. Does it concern

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you? For the majority of people, Zika will be a mild infection. There

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are measures people can take to protect themselves that it shows is

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an ongoing risk. We've seen a lot of concern about that in America, and

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other countries which will have to deal with this in the future and

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authorities will have to commit resources to deal with it. Your

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advice to anybody concerned about travelling? Get up-to-date advice.

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The goalposts are constantly moving, this great information on the Public

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Health England website or go to a specialist travel clinic where they

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deal with people going to infected areas and we can give you the

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up-to-date information you need to decide what to do. Thank you both

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for coming in. Donald Trump's wife, Melania Trump,

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is suing the Daily Mail Online for libel after it published

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an article looking at her Our Media Correspondent

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David Sillito is here. So what are these claims that we

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know about? Essentially this is a story published August 20, and the

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two essential ingredients to it. One is about her immigration status into

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America for the it suggests that she arrived earlier than she said she

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did, which would have been politically embarrassing. Wouldn't

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it just for Donald Trump? The second one is an allegation that,

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essentially, she had been an escort many years ago. These have both been

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strongly denied. A statement from the when it comes to celebrity legal

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action in America says," false and of amatory statement about Melania

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allegedly being an escort in the early days of her career, all such

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statements are 100% false." Today we have on page 14 of the Daily Mail, a

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complete retraction. They say they never intended to say it was

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actually true, but these allegations were swimming around that they have

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made very clear today we did not intend to state or suggest these

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allegations are true nor did we intend to state or suggest she ever

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worked as an escort in the sex business. But that's not enough to

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stop this? Legal action, libel law, it is compensated business. In

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America, not only do you have to prove that something is untrue, you

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also have to prove something called malice. Essentially, you have to

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prove that the person who wrote it knew it was false at the time and

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that also they had a reckless disregard for the truth. Now, that

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makes it very difficult to bring libel actions in America as opposed

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to Britain, where you just have to prove, well, the publisher has to

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prove what they thought was actually true. So it's quite difficult to

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bring libel actions but you've got to remember Charles harder comes

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with an aura about him. He is the one who has been behind the Hulk

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Hogan case, which was about a sex tape, published by a website, and T1

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$140 million and put the website out of business. When he comes forward

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saying here is a $150 million claim, they take it seriously so this is a

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warning to every other news organisation, it completely closes

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down what is a feeding frenzy sometimes of these allegations. Was

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it just the Daily Mail which published this article? No, another

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blogger is cited in the case. He is based in Maryland, which is why this

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case is being brought in Maryland, and if you want to know the ups and

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downs of it, it means that it's possibly going to be taken on by a

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state court in Maryland and one of the little details of Maryland law,

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like many American states, is that you don't have to prove there has

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been material harm if you are alleging this is unjust.

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Deformation. Donald Trump is presumably angry about this? We have

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not actually heard anything from him. Furious. The only thing they

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refer back to the statement and it's pretty clear on absolutely furious

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about what has been alleged here, and we had a retraction today. This

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has possibly gone away in terms of anybody else in the public domain or

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talking about this, but certainly $150 million threat, they will be

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taking it very seriously. David, thank you for popping down.

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I want to read some comments coming in. This comes from Liana. I'm sure

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Scotland should get another independence vote as soon as England

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gets one as well. And has said, about the junior doctors, junior

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doctors who strike should be sacked. We would talk about whether public

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support would wane. Alex says, these are young professionals are striking

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because of their fears for patient safety. Jeremy Hunt should employ

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more doctors rather than trying to spread and overstretched workforce

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to breaking point. I totally support the junior doctors in their action.

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