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As is a resigning as chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, when


he has brought Parliament into such disrepute, I think it is utterly


amazing. We'll also get reaction


from Labour MP Simon Danzuck - who's experienced his own tabloid


sex scandal and says he feels Plus as Cold Feet returns to TV


tonight and Poldark last night, why do TV bosses love


rebooting old shows? It's no use, Ross. We knew it a week


ago. So we give up? We move on. Throughout the programme we'll bring


you the latest breaking news, and across the BBC today we're


looking at the impact of Britain's We'll hear from a daughter


and her stepdad who ten weeks on -


still haven't stopped And if you're texting,


it will cost the standard Our top story,


it's back to work for MPs today and the immigration story is still


top of the political agenda. The Prime Minister has cast doubt


on whether a points-based immigration system


would work for the UK, suggesting that it's not a silver


bullet to satisfy the concerns Our political guru Norman Smith


is in Westminster. Welcome back, Normandy. What has


Theresa May been saying about this points system? If you had to think,


what was the standard policy demand of the Brexiteers, it was to


introduce a points based immigration system, rather like they have in


Australia, where you only get in depending on your work


qualifications, your educational qualifications, your age and health.


That was the key policy demand and Theresa May has in effect kibosh on


it. -- kiboshed it. And that is largely based on her experience as


Home Secretary. She will have looked at Australia, where net immigration,


by head of population, is higher than it is in the UK. It is not a


system that will lead to significant results there. Of course, this will


lead to alarm bells for Brexiteers but interestingly, Chuka Umunna, one


of the leading remain campaigners, he was supportive of Theresa May's


stands. Actually, in places like Australia,


they actually wish to increase the number of immigrants they have


coming to their country proportionally. Australia has three


times more immigrants than we did. According to their latest


statistics, if you look at the number of foreign-born citizens


living there, there are around 28%, more than double what we have here.


David Davis will be talking in the Commons today. Will that be giving


us more clues to what we can expect? If only. I think it will be a


frustrating afternoon in the Commons because the signs are that it will


be big picture stuff, bold ambition and aspirations, rather than any


detail or any clear definition about what Brexit really means. And the


reason for that is you sense that Theresa May and David Davis are


still feeling their way. We can see it on immigration, with Theresa


May's kibosh on of the points system, but also when she was asked


last night about whether we are going to carry on giving money to


the EU, she did not rule that out. -- Theresa May's kiboshing.


Similarly, she has given no clear timetable about when she will


trigger the Article 50, bringing about our withdrawal. I expect that


after the statement, there will still be many, many unanswered


questions about Brexit. And Theresa May spent the weekend at the G20


Summit, the first time she has met world leaders as Prime Minister. How


has the trip gone down? The funny thing about Theresa May, although


she has been an secretary for five or six years, she has never been a


figure on the international stage, so this was her first outing. For


many world leaders, there is a curiosity about what sort of


politician Shias but it seems to me she has had a tough baptism of fire.


President Obama warning about the possible adverse effects of Brexit,


and the Japanese issuing an extraordinary document saying that


if you press ahead with Brexit, then you do not guarantee free movement


of labour, and who knows, big Japanese companies like Honda and


Nissan might relocate some of their operations in Britain. There was


that stony faced meeting with President Putin, and ahead of her,


perhaps the toughest meeting of all, with the Chinese present, and there


will be huge speculation about whether she is going to pull the


plug on the Hinkley Point power station. -- with the Chinese


president. Joanna has the rest


of the days news. Farmers, lorry drivers and traders


in Calais are starting to blockade the main route into the town -


as they call for the migrant camp Around 9,000 people


are living there. The mayor of Calais is joining


the demonstrations. The protest is likely


to cause major disruption. Our Correspondent, Richard Galpin,


is with lorry drivers in Calais. just some of the lorries taking part


in this demonstration. They are going to be blockading the main


arterial route which runs through Calais. This is one of two main


groups. We are actually in Dunkirk. They are going to go towards the


centre of Calais on a go-slow, blocking the main role. Another


group comes from the South into Calais. After that, we understand


the human chain will block the main road leading to the port itself. So


there is of course going to be enormous disruption caused by the


protest and we think it will be one of the biggest so far by local


people in Calais and the region. And they have one clear demand, that the


camp known as the Jungle, where there are 9000 migrants and refugees


living, the protesters say that this must be closed down as soon as


possible. They want a date from the government for when this is actually


going to happen. The Labour MP Keith Vaz is facing


a possible investigation by Commons sleaze watchdogs over reports


he paid two male escorts Mr Vaz has indicated


he'll confirm tomorrow whether he will stand aside


as chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Committee


after the allegations were published The 59-year-old who's married


with two children has criticised the newspaper for


printing the story. The organisation that regulates


the medical profession is warning that patients will suffer if junior


doctors in England go ahead with a series of five


one-day strikes next week. The General Medical Council says


the scale of the action, planned at such short notice,


cannot be justified. The GMC says it will also


investigate any case in which a patient comes


to significant harm Giant pandas are officially no


longer an endangered species. After decades of work


by conservationists, they have now been reduced to the lower


category of "vulnerable". The increase in numbers is being put


down to successful breeding programmes and the measures taken


to protect bamboo forests. That's a summary of


the latest BBC News. In the next few minutes,


we'll hear from three women who've experienced horrific domestic abuse


and have now joined together to campaign for better


rights for victims. Their stories are distressing


and you may not want Do get in touch with us


throughout the morning. Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE


and if you text, you will be charged And you can get in touch


anonymously, of course. Hugh Ferris is at the BBC


Sport Centre, and international football has returned


with the World Cup qualifiers. Sam Allardyce in charge of England


for the first time, Same old, same old, if you are an


England supporter? What have we learned? We have learned that Sam


Allardyce is a lucky manager, sometimes better than being a good


one. England's first World Cup qualifier was looking a little too


familiar if memories of Euro 2016 are fresh in your mind. The team


lacked a cutting edge, until the 95th minute, almost the last kick of


the game. Adam Lallana scored his first international goal. Helping


his team to win 1-0 against Slovakia, who were down to ten men


by this point. Sam Allardyce becomes the ninth England manager in a row


to start with a win, just. Scotland are top of their group, above


England, after a 5-1 win in Malta. Robert Snodgrass clinched a hat


trick with this goal, helping Scotland pull away from their


opponents, who ended the match with only nine men. Northern Ireland's


opening qualifier finished goalless in their first game since the last


16 at the Euros. Michael O'Neill says he was happy with a point


against one of the top teams in the group. And there was a great tweet


before Adam Lallana scored which said, I'm sure ITV have just put an


England game on from the European Championships and gone down the pub.


Let's talk about tennis. Andy Murray is the Brit left. Kyle Edmund and


Johanna Konta are both out now but there is so much chat about British


tennis being strong right now. It is true. It is better than I can


remember in my lifetime. I cannot remember a better time for British


tennis. This US Open seen a record-breaking effort from the


British contingent but the challenge is always in the second week, and it


will be tougher. Kyle Edmund had the misfortune to come up against the


world number one, looking back to his best. Novak Djokavic and


received two walkovers in getting to the stage. He needed treatment on a


troublesome arm injury, but he still looked pretty fresh, outclassing


Kyle Edmund 6-2, 6-1, 6-4, to set up a quarterfinal for against


Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. That match did not start until tenpin -- 10pm local


time because of an epic that preceded it. Rafa Nadal not out by


Lucas Pouille, who came back from one set down to win it. It is the


first time in 12 years that the two-time winner in New York, Rafa


Nadal, has failed to reach a Grand Slam last eight. Johanna Konta is


also out and it is a sign of how far she has come that the British number


one will be disappointed, being beaten in the fourth round in


straight sets by the unseeded Latvian. And let's talk about


cricket, a sign of the strength of England's one-day cricket side that


England's supporters were disappointed not to beat Pakistan


5-0? Dennis is improving immeasurably for England but the


one-day cricket team might be the best around at the moment. They only


won the series against Pakistan 4-1 after the tourists claimed the final


match in Cardiff by four wickets. Waseem, born down the road in


Swansea, hitting the winning runs. It was England's first white ball


defeat all summer. I was in Cardiff yesterday and the grey skies and


temperatures suggested it was not summer anyway. Maybe the unbeaten


record still stands. And a full weather forecast from Carol, just


before 10am. Beaten, tortured and verbally


bullied - one in four women in England and Wales will experience


domestic abuse in their lifetime. Three women who experienced it


first-hand have joined forces in the hope of bringing


about changes to the way Rachel Williams was shot by her


ex-husband following years of abuse. She is calling for judges to be


given more specific training Among the many injuries Mandy Thomas


suffered at the hands of her ex are burns inflicted


on her using a blow torch Along with her children, she was put


under witness protection. She wants molestation orders,


which are a set of rules given to prisoners on their


release from prison, And Becky O'Brien had her jaw broken


by her ex-partner hours after giving She wants more support


for children caught up Let's talk to Rachel Mandy and


Becky. I know you're comfortable in talking about those things because


it is, you think it is important for people to understand the kind of


depths to which your ex-s went to. important for people to understand


the kind of apps to which your exes when two. Mandy, the abuse you


suffered went on for a very long time, 18 years. But it's started in


quite subtle ways, didn't it? It is the control factor, saying what you


should wear, not having friends, keeping your way from your friends


and family. Basically, controlling your every movement. You are


thinking in the beginning that it is because they care about you, they


wanted for themselves, because they love you. But it wasn't long after I


moved in with him that he started, it started with a slap, and then a


punch. I did say, this isn't on. I tried to get a weight right from


them. But there was nothing in place for me to go to. You know, the


police weren't listening. I was raped, I went to the police station,


I did a full report and they just did nothing about it. And it makes


you think, you go to the system for help and they just keep turning your


way. Over the 18 years, I had moved quite a number of times. -- turning


you away. Having children en route as well wasn't easy. Going into


refuges, then he would find us, because he was a computer hacker, he


used to track us down. Everything I was doing to keep us away from him


wasn't working. And the escalation, if you like, the punching and


slapping, moved on to him using the walls around the house, knives, to


effectively torture you -- using tools. I used it scanned the room,


look around the house and think, what can he do with that? I used to


try and put everything away. He used to pick something up, and I had no


wide ear that he could do that with that. Towards the end, he was doing


drugs -- I had no idea. It was unpredictable. He would be talking


one minute, then the next minute he would just switch, the children used


to pick up on it as well. You would be walking around on a show 24 7/7


to stay alive, basically -- on eggshells. The worst incident, if


you like, was when he smashed a glass in your face and proceeded to


attack you for about, punch you in the face, for about eight hours,


before dragging you into a bedroom and locking the door. Yes, that was


the worst one. I kept going in and out of consciousness because he had


been punching me for so long. And then he stripped me naked, and after


the punching he went downstairs to sharpen knives, and he was saying


what he was going to do with the knives as he was chopping them. I'd


got the children locked into their bedrooms so they were out of the


way, -- as he was sharpening them. But he would come up, attacked me


with the knives, he dragged me into my daughter's bedroom, and my


youngest was four years old in the bunk bed. And he got the knives, he


threw me on the floor and he said he was going to kill the children. He


made his way across to the bunk bed. I didn't know what I'd done at this


point, my daughter said it in the statement, but I crawled along the


floor and pulled him down. And it put him in a spin. He literally ran


round in circles, ran outside, and that is when he got the blowtorch,


tested it, and burnt in wire so that it fits the Electric of, the smoke


alarm went off, the fire alarm was going off. And then he just came up


to meet with the blowtorch. I thought, there is nothing I can do.


I backed as far as I could into a wall. And he just carried on. And he


was saying, smile that burning flesh, as he was doing it. -- smell


the burning flesh. Daniel had witnessed that part, he came out of


the bedroom and he was sat in the corridor. I'm left with the haunting


image of him on his knees, helpless, watching his dad take a blowtorch to


me. But then he took them to school. He kept me locked in the bedroom,


carried on portering before another four days, and I was daft. --


carried portering me. How did you survive? I don't know. I was praying


one minute to die because of the pain. And then begging to stay alive


for the children. But he took the children to school on the fourth


day, and my daughter said that the teacher that she thinks that has


killed her mum, and then the police came and got me out. But then he


still pleaded not guilty for a whole year, through the Crown Court. At


the last minute, he changed his plea to guilty. The day before, that is


another thing I don't agree with. If you waste the time of the court and


put children through the help of being video linked interviewed, so


they have to relive every moment over and over. They have the give


him the right to change the plea, I don't agree with that at all. He was


convicted and jailed for 15 years, this was back in 2003. Yet in 2008


you got a call saying he was being released, which had a terrible


impact on your children? It did. Basically we were under witness


protection, the whole team come out to you to say how you are going to


have to live, you're going to have to move within a week. We had to


take the children out of school and college, go into another strange


town, start again. This is witness protection? It is. We moved into a


house, and about a week after, my ex was released, Daniel Whitworth in.


-- Daniel went missing. We had a whole team searching for him,


sniffer dogs, they tracked him down, his body was found in another town a


month later. Then a month after that I had to move again. Because they


couldn't make our house into a proper safe house, I live in a


prison so that my ex can be free, basically. We have trackers if we go


missing... It's just... Daniel said, it is like living in a box, and he


wanted to be free. He was screaming at the police, he doesn't


understand, knowing what he is going to do, he threatened to kill my


children one by one, tell me last and make me suffer the most. And he


told the children that. When the police are saying they are letting


him out, it doesn't make sense in their world that you should be doing


that. I don't know how you cope with Daniel taking his life. I've been


through a lot. But that was the biggest, the most deepest pain. It


still hurts saying get now. Because it's something that you couldn't


control yourself. I have to respect his wishes to be free. And I'm


learning over the years that it took that for him to be free. But it


makes me angry that the system let it happen, and it still happens


today. You know, I get e-mails every day. Because I wrote the book, You


Can't Run, to stress where the mistakes are made in the system. We


will come back to the system, because you have all got issues with


parts of the system. Thank you for being so open about some very, very


distressing details. Rachel, you were seven months pregnant when you


first remember your XP environment to you. What happened? That was the


most vivid memory I have of Darren being violent towards me. I remember


we had an argument, I went upstairs into the bedroom and he followed me


there. And he literally picked me off the floor by my throat, Darren


was capable of doing this because he was sixth at seven and 22 stone, he


was a body-builder. And he let me go and I turned blue, and that was his


way of telling me, he fell on the floor to his knees and cried and


asked for forgiveness. I figured him, and I kept forgiving him for


the next 18 years. Not only was he remorseful, he went to anger


management to deal with these things. Yes, he went through the


process. And in the end I just couldn't take no more. After 18


years, I mean, we've got children, and people say, why don't you leave?


You know, it is not as easy as get up and go. When you have got


children, sometimes you don't feel that refuges or an appropriate place


to take your children. You talk about a moment of clarity, you were


aged 49, you thought it has got to stop. Can you describe it? I was 39.


And sorry. On a Friday night he had taken about 15 sleeping tablets or


antidepressants, got taken to the hospital, I didn't go, at that


point, ... Did he regularly threatened to kill himself? It was


quite a regular thing. Most people who are watching, who are in that


situation, they will know that as a regular pattern of a perpetrator.


That is the persuader tactic. And he took this overdose. And to be


honest, I didn't go to the hospital, I wasn't concerned, I went home, the


following morning he came back, he was brought back, I don't know what


time it was, and again we had an argument, I went downstairs and I


can remember standing in the kitchen looking out my back door, because I


opened the back door, and the tears were streaming down my face. I


thought, do I really want to be here in ten years thinking I had done it


in ten years prior? At that point he was breathing down my neck,


swearing, saying I wouldn't leave, why would I go. I said this time I


am going to go. As I walked through the kitchen, he grabbed me and shook


me so ferociously, strangling me, that he works the boys up upstairs.


They both came running down, Jack at the time had a baseball bat in his


hand. And Josh was making a silent 999 call. With that I remember being


on the floor. I had a surge of energy and I jumped up. I worked on


the top of his head, and I think it sort of startled him a bit. -- I


whacked him on the top of his head. He sort of came to his senses, he


was crying, he said it wouldn't happen again. Then the kids went


back to bed, because in their world, it was sort of normal. That was the


routine. This is why I think education, we need to teach these


children. My kids thought it was normal to be living in a household


like that. So they both went back to bed. And I does sort of went out in


the conservatory. At that point Darren started dragging me up the


stairs. Darren, even though he was unpredictable he was also


predictable, and I knew what he was going to do next. I knew he was


going to slit his wrists. As he started pulling me up the stairs, I


managed to break free when we got to the bedroom. Next to his bed he had


hunting knives and stuff like that. I said, oh no you don't. With that,


Jack came into the bedroom, he asked me what was happening. I looked at


Darren and I said, go on, slit your wrists in front of your 16-year-old


son. As if to say, don't you dare. By the time I had got to the bottom


of the stairs, Jack said, he has done it, and he did. At that point,


I thought, if he can do that in front of our 16-year-old son, what


else is he capable of doing? That was it then. I got the ball rolling.


He was taken to hospital and went to his sister's to stay. That was the


9th of July. On the 12th of July I went straight to the solicitors,


something I had never done before. I got to an appointment, that is where


I started the ball rolling for divorce. Over the next six week


period than, everything just really escalated. He came to the hair


dressing salon where you worked in Newport and shot you. Yes. It was


the 19th of August. And I can remember taxing my sister, I don't


know where I got it wrong, I had a feeling that Darren was going to see


a psychiatrist that they -- texting my sister. I said, can you go and


check if his car is at this place. She went and had a look and said it


was not. It was about to 15 PM. A customer had come in, I had just


finished doing a blow-dried and handing a lady her change back. She


said to me, this lady said is everything all right. I said, well,


not really, I'm trying to get rid of Raul Mowatt. I doing there whether


my mother had written a letter to say, you have signed free to's death


certificate. The day before the lay magistrates lay down the


restrictions. The three mile radius, he couldn't come within a three-mile


radius of the marital home was lifted. Contact with the children


was lifted. I had no idea. He was free to do what he wanted. And that


landed apparently on the desk of one of the officers on the day of the


shooting. As I said, just trying to get rid of him. I remember it was a


sunny day. It suddenly went dark. As I looked at the door, this glass


door, in walks Darren, filling the whole of the door frame, pulling out


a sawn off shotgun out of his bag. As he came through to the shop, I


can remember this lady managing to squeeze past, and I don't know why,


I just ran towards him. My legs took me towards him, I don't know whether


because I knew I couldn't get any easy access out the back. I started


fighting with him. When you are facing death tummy you have got the


strength and you just don't know where it comes from. -- you have got


the strength. I remember him hitting me with the gun, I felt the floor. I


grabbed the reception desk and tried to pull it over my legs. At that


point there was an old lady on the floor, she was 92 at the time, and


she was shouting at him as well to get out. Then he kicked the


reception desk from me. I pulled my legs up under my chin, just


instinct, and he aimed at my chest, and he said, Rachel, I love you. He


pulled the trigger. At that point, my legs flopped to the floor. I


looked at my jeans and thought, he has actually shot me. I could smell


the gunpowder. And then the phone was on the floor, I remember tapping


the receiver really quickly, thinking, perhaps there is not a


line, trying to do the 999. The next I felt it lost to the side of me.


Obviously he had shot again. Thank the Lord he missed. The next I can


remember looking to the left and he put the gun down, it was to reload.


It was big and silver, I can see it now, ornate engraving on it. I


grabbed the gun, I had a watch on, and it must have been a hell of a


battle, because my watch face was frosted. It was swinging round with


this gun. Obviously he couldn't get it off me. He was running out of


time as well, because there was no way he would have gone to prison.


Then he proceeded to pick me up, basically. I had back is, I had his


bookmark on his arm, for of his fingers in bed to my back as


bruises. My ear was a cauliflower is, slipped seven times. The next


thing, he had gone. And he immediately left, and he took his


own life. On us youngest photos are difficult


to cope with and six weeks later, took his own life in the same place.


Yes, he took his life as well. At the time I remember falling social


services and saying that he was next. He decided to stay with the


family. He wanted sympathy for his dad's death, which he could not get


from my family. And in that six weeks, that totally changed. His


texts got nastier and he was calling me names. We became estranged, me


and Jack, and Jack and his brother fell out. Jack did not understand


why Josh did not want to go to the funeral. And then we said, he tried


to kill my mother, you know? I remember falling social services


from the hospital and I said, you need to do something. This is a boy


I no longer recognise. Me and Jack were inseparable Tom how close we


were. I said I no longer recognise him. And they said, he is 16 so we


can live where he wants, basically. And that was it. Let me read two


messages from people listening to you speak around the country. Liz


says, my exit had his hands around my neck and pinned me up against the


wall. It never changes. This, from someone else:


Becky, your ex-husband was first violent to you just after you had


given birth. The twins were born prematurely. I was only 29 weeks


pregnant, so it was quite stressful anyway, as you can imagine. They


kept me in early labour for ten days. During which time, Stephen had


pretty much sat by my side and had behaved sometimes radically, but


only towards me and never in front of other members of staff. I put it


down to the stress. I just thought he had a strange way of dealing with


it. The twins were born and three days after they were born, I was


wheeled down to see them in special care, buy him. And then when we came


back to the room, he was being very quiet and sitting on his phone. I


was completely exhausted by this point. We didn't argue but he


started, I remember seeing things and making accusations that it was


my fault the twins had come early. I thought, I cannot do this right now


and I asked him to leave. And he said, I'm not going anywhere. I


said, please leave, if you don't leave I am going to ask someone to


ask you to leave. Andy said, I'm not going anywhere because I love you,


at which point I turned to try to get up and go to the toilet and all


I remember is him shouting no. He grabbed my arm and dragged me across


the bed, which nearly ripped open MIC section. -- ripped open my


C-section. He began to pummel me into the bed and I could feel myself


going out of consciousness. I remember thinking, if I do not get


up, he is going to kill me. And this was in the hospital room? I was in


the room next to the nurses station. So you are somewhere where you feel


like you should be safe and I found out afterwards that the nurses heard


screaming and thought someone was in labour but because I had already


given birth, they did not come to me, so they walked past my room.


Basically someone did eventually come in at which point is Stephen


stood back, and very calmly walked around the bed, picked up his


rucksack, want out of the room, waited for the left, he didn't run


anywhere, and I was trying to screen what had happened and I was


absolutely petrified he was going to go down and do something to the


babies, so that was my first thought. And it turns out he


actually left the hospital, phoned the police and said, you need to


arrest me because I have attacked my wife. And he pleaded guilty to GBH.


But as he had no previous convictions, he was not jailed and


he moved back home. Basically, I didn't think it was acceptable what


he had done, but I thought he had had a breakdown. I had never been in


an abusive relationship before, and he had never physically attacked me


before. He would punch objects and stomp around, and have moods and


leave and then come back, to the point where my mother used to call


him a boom around because he would pack a bag and go and two hours


later, he would be back again. So even after he attacked you, you were


not thinking, I am in an abusive relationship. You thought it was a


one-off? I did, and because my idea of what a abusive relationship was,


it was not bad. It was someone like what Mandy and Rachel said, you meet


this person and you do not go on a date and they hit you. If they did


that, you would not go on a second date. They use their charisma and


manipulate and appear to be everything you need and want, so you


fall in love with that person. That then, as you say, turns from caring,


so it may be, I will come and collect you from that club, or I


will do this for you, and eventually what was caring turns into


controlling. But I didn't recognise that at the time because I had


nothing to compare the two. I understand. Let me read some more


messages. David and Kerry saved you are incredibly brave women. Chris


says, horrible stories of domestic abuse. Much love to the women


sharing the stories of survival. Your courage knows no bounds. Max


says, your stories are powerful and so inspiring. It highlights the real


problems within the criminal justice system. What is your aim now?


Because you are all on a mission, it seems to me. We would like to put


everything on the rug, give it a real good shake, and everything that


does not work, get rid of it. I think most of all for us, all


services need to be put in the victims's be voice. There is nothing


better than experience from the horses mouth. People think they are


getting it right but they are not. We have heard statements about


people being let down by the police or services. And Mandy, you are


wanting to take the issue of molestation orders to Parliament.


And licenses. Briefly explain. It is an order to say that they need to


follow rules and if they break the rules, they go back inside. And what


is happening is they are breaking the rules and they are not enforced.


It is a continual cycle of that happening, and we all speak to


people all the time, we all have e-mails and we get letters everyday


and it is similar stories you are hearing, where we are being let down


by the system. There are things in place and it just does not happen in


reality. Similarly, there are laws in place at the moment. A


breakthrough came in last of timber to do with coercive control, but as


we experienced, most women, or men in abusive relationships, they may


not even know what course of control is, so raising awareness of all the


things that are not maybe the physical abuse, and making people


understand that they can do something about that, actually now


for the first time if somebody is coerced, that is an imprisonable


offence. For up to five years. The same with stalking. I did not


realise I was stopped. And repeatedly sent me texts and phone


calls all the time, and it was only when I worked with national


survivors of stocking that they said, do you realise you were


stopped? You only need two or more to be classed as harassment. The


police are not picking up on that. I had people messaging me saying, my


boyfriend is following me, he is calling me, what can I do? I said,


phoned the police and tell them to enforce the stalking act. I want to


ask about Women's Aid. He wants to see mandatory training for judges


calling with domestic abuse? Why? Some of these judges, the older


generation, they have been in the job a long time and things change. I


think everybody needs to be trained, specialist training for them to


understand domestic violence. I went to court for a molestation order in


regards to stalking and the judge said it was a consequence of the job


I did. What? I was told that this person had not attacked me


physically for six years. And I said, I have not seen him for four


years and yet he still feels the need to track where I am and what I


do. A complete lack of understanding. Not only of the law


but the reality. And the social media site, because it is a whole


new forum to abuse someone. The subject itself is not understood.


That is why we do what we do, to explain reality. And when we say to


people, to me this is an endemic, and if it was the bowler, the


government would be trying to find a cure. It costs the economy ?15.7


billion a year. When you tell people the figures, and I want to mention


about the refugees... That is the point that Women's Aid are making


today and we will talk to them in the next hour. They are launching a


campaign to try to make sure that women's refuges are exempt from the


new housing benefit cap which is coming in because they say that if


refuges are subject to the cap, as many as two thirds of women's


refuges may have to close. In Wales, 320 women were closed from -- turned


away from refuge spaces. If they implement this, 69% of the refuges


in Wales will close. And this is a staggering statistic, we only have


300 refuges in the whole of the UK, compared to 1500 animal shelters.


That doesn't make sense and I am an animal lover. Everyone always says,


why did you not get out? But if you have nowhere to go, where do you go?


And you have been in refuges? Thank you so much. Thank you for having


us. You are strong individually but as a trio, my goodness. I feel sorry


for politicians! Let me read some messages. Sally says, I have a busy


morning but I have been stopped in my tracks by your programme, three


women talking about domestic abuse. Impressive and brave. Sorrell says,


psychological and emotional abuse is as bad and disabling as physical


abuse. I have experienced that. That is what you were saying. Andrew


says, my God, it is for what these ladies have injuries from their


partners. And David says, it makes me ashamed to be a man. What brave


women. Thank you very much. We wish you all the best. If you have your


own experience of domestic abuse, get in touch. And we will read your


messages later on in the programme. You can get in touch anonymously as


well. It is worth saying that we spoke to Rachel, Mandy and Becky


this morning after Rachel told us about fear campaign, so if you have


a story and you want to get in touch, please do so. E-mail us:


Still to come, can the Labour MP Keith Vaz stay on? After allegations


that he hired male escorts. We asked three of his constituents will they


think and speak to a Conservative MP who has reported him to the sleaze


watchdog and is considering reporting the police. -- reporting


him to the police. Across the day on BBC News, we're


examining the impact, two months on, We'll hear from a young Remain


voter who's still furious with her step-dad, who was convinced


to vote Leave. Worth pointing out that the


government has introduced a new domestic abuse offence through the


serious crime act to capture course of behaviour in intimate or familiar


relationships, as well as new stalking or fences. And they have


pledged ?80 million to combat violence against women and girls. --


stalking or fences. If you want to get help, then you can. There are a


list of charities on the BBC action line. All the information at:


We've just had some more economic figures out -


recent indicators on manufacturing confidence, jobs and house prices


indicate that the predicted Brexit crunch hasn't happened,


Our economics guru Kamal Ahmed is here to tell us.


What are the latest figures? You will remember before the referendum


we were given lots of warnings that there could be recession, that house


prices would collapse and jobs would be lost. The biggest part of the UK


economy is the services sector, retail, shopping, tourism and


banking. It is a really important part of the UK economy. We have just


had the latest figures on how that part of the economy is performing


and, just like we have seen with lots of these economic figures since


the referendum, they are pretty good. The services sector and a big


contraction in July, in the run-up to the referendum. Businesses seemed


to say they were pausing, because they were unsure where the vote was


going to go, but after the referendum there seems to have been


a real bounce back in confidence. The services sector is growing


again, and business confidence seems to have returned. One interesting


thing in this new data is that there is evidence that inflation is coming


back in to the economy. Of course we have had this huge collapse, in the


value of sterling, which has meant that it costs more for us to import


food and fuel into this country, but it does seem to be that there is


inflationary pressure and that, in the end, is likely to feed through


to consumers in higher prices, which could mean that real wages start


being affected by the fact they have to spend more. So a little bit of


poorer news within these figures but again, in a broad sense, given this


notion that after the referendum things have not been too bad,


actually quietly confident and the predictions of recession, at this


stage, seem a little off the mark. Thank you very much.


The Labour MP Keith Vaz could be investigated by a Commons sleaze


watchdog and reported to the police over claims he paid two


The 59-year-old, who is married with two children, is in charge


of a group of MPs which investigate issues connected to crime.


They're currently carrying out a report on prostitution laws.


Mr Vaz has indicated tt he'll tell us all tomorrow if he'll stand aside


as the head of that committee, which he's chaired for nine years.


Nobody is questioning our integrity, it's your judgment were questioning.


This is not a television game show, this is a serious question


Can I say on behalf of this committee that we have found your


Gary Lineker thought the idea of Leicester winning


was so far-fetched that he said if they did when he would present


We do not believe that we've come to the end of the factual situation.


Are you confident that there is proper and appropriate leadership?


What is your message to young people who want to get involved in drugs?


Do you regret signing the contract saying that you had agreed


Do you not regret making that appointment?


Keith Vaz has also apologised publicly to his wife and children


for the "hurt and distress" he's caused them.


The Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen, who's MP in neighbouring


North West Leicestershire, has told this programme he's writing


to the Parlaimentary Commissioner for Standards over the allegations,


I think misconduct in public office and also conspiracy to supply a can


stroll substance, they are both criminal offences. The fact that


Keith Vaz is prevaricating over even resigning as chairman of the Home


Affairs Select Committee, when he has brought parliament into such


disrepute, and himself, I think it is absolutely amazing. Should he


resign as chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee? He certainly


should resign as chair of that committee, and quite honestly... I


have long been of the opinion that Keith Vaz is not a fit person to be


a member of Parliament. I would call on the people of Leicester, who no


one also a lot about him and his various activities to come forward


now to the police and let's see what he has really been doing -- who no


one awful lot. Everything is allocation at this stage. But you


are clearly saying that he should not carry on as chair, not even


temporarily standing aside, he should resign, and you are saying he


should resign as a Labour MP. I have serious concerns over Keith Vaz's


activities. Time. And I think there is a lot more to come out about


Keith Vaz, that is what I think. And hopefully it will. Isn't this a


classic tabloid sting. That is certainly what Keith Vaz himself


seems to be saying, it is entrapment, deeply troubling, he


says, that a national newspaper should have paid individuals to act


in this way? I think there is a legitimate public interest. People


do have a right to a private life. But when you are the chairman of the


Home Affairs Select Committee, it is a particular role where you are


making reports on the police, policing, and he has recently


produced an in-depth recommendation of what Parliament should do to deal


with prostitution. And then to actually be using prostitutes


himself, people can surely see the conflict-of-interest that arises


from that. I mean, none of us are perfect, we live in an imperfect


world, but there are limits to it, and Keith Vaz Haswell overstepped


that mark. There are other things going on as well. -- Haswell


overstepped. Things that have been going on for quite a long time.


Myself, I have dropped information to the police in Leicestershire


regarding Keith Vaz several times over the last 18 months. And his


position is completely unfilmable. He brings Parliament really into


disrepute by hanging on like this -- on tenements. He should do the


decent thing and resign. I don't think Keith Vaz and there is the


decent thing to do. Again, I repeat they are allegations at this stage.


Jeremy Corbyn, his boss, the legally do, said it is a private matter and


he hasn't broken the law. The Labour Party enough time all themselves,


they didn't need this. -- enough turmoil. The viewing public can


judge what they think Keith Vaz should do, and the relevance of


Jeremy Corbyn's remarks on that. I'll just say again, I believe that


these revelations in the Mayor, I believe that is that of the iceberg


to Keith Vaz's activities -- in the Daily Mirror. There is a lot more to


come out about him. Conservative MP Andrew Bridgend.


We can also speak to three people who either live


or work in Leicester, where Keith Vaz is the local MP.


They are Ricky Shah, Karan Modha, who runs a business


in Keith Vaz's constituency, and Dharmesh Lakhani,


who is a restaurant owner who has known Mr Vaz for more than 30 years.


And you also know each other as well. Ricky Shah, what should Keith


Vaz do now? I think based on the allegations I think, you know, he


should resign from the Home Affairs Select Committee because he is in a


national position. You know, you can't put yourself in those


situations. We are all allowed a private lives, but when you are a


public figure and you use the media to get more popular and promote


yourself, unfortunately the downfall of that is the opposite side, which


are your private affairs. Don't you want to hear his side of the story


first? We have heard his side of the story many times, it is not


obviously the first time. Like I said, you know, everyone is entitled


to a private life. And, yes, he deserves his side. But we are


talking about the educated man. You know, -- a well-educated man. He is


strategic, and he has a lot of support around him. He should be


able to make these decisions. He is not a naive person, he is a very


clever man. Karen, do you think we expect MPs to behave in a different


way than the rest of us? Good morning. Obviously MPs should be


taking themselves in a different mannerism, purely because they are


public figures. They are out there in the role of serving their


constituency. However, as Ricky highlighted, those people who are


entitled to a private life, so what he does in his private life is


completely different. Again, I think he is innocent until proven guilty.


As we said before, these are just allegations. Despite the fact these


are just allegations, Ricky Shah wants him to stand down as chairman


of the Home Affairs Select Committee. Do you think you should


do that or not? I think it would be sensible for him to stand down.


However, he himself is a well-educated


man, a solicitor by trade. So I think he knows what the best move


is. But personally, the most sensible thing would be to stand


down. Thank you for talking to us. You have been a friend of Keith Vaz


for many years. How did you react to the allegations? Obviously I am


shocked. Obviously, they are allegations. I look at all of the


work that he is done in the Siddique, championing the city. --


is the city. I was shocked. But people are calling for him to stand


down as an MP for Leicester East, and I totally disagree with that. If


you look at the good he has done here, the amount of holds and the


issues he helps with many of the key is that jurors, that is a different


question, really. He is very good at his job -- the constituents. You


will have heard the Conservative MP saying that he has brought


Parliament into disrepute? Ascari said, he is innocent until proven


guilty. -- as Karim said. This was a sting operation by a national paper.


We have seen and heard of many of these in the past, how reliable they


are, I mean, you have got to wait. Keith is in a very powerful position


in the Home Affairs select emitted. It has not been long since he


questioned a very, very powerful media entrepreneur. He is in a


powerful position on a committee, which at the moment is looking at


prostitution legislation in this country. Is there not a potential


conflict of interest there? Of course there is. At the end of the


day, it is innocent until proven guilty. If he can step aside from


that believe that one out, in local government, in the council, will


often have issues were councillors for certain areas have to step


aside, maybe this is one thing that Keith would have to step aside from.


Ricky Shah, is this story in the public interest? Yes, I think it is


in the public interest because of the fact that he is a public figure.


You know, I know the good work that Keith Vaz does in the area, the


local area, but when you are in a position of power on a national


scale, you need to reflect on how you behave, and what you get caught


up in two. He is a well-educated man, we have said that before. --


what you are caught in two. If you are in your own home, the public


issue is, how is that money coming from, where does it come from? Does


it come from his expenses? Yes, innocent until proven guilty, but it


is very important to understand that he is a public figure and you can't


keep coming back from these kind of issues. Thank you all very much for


your time. And in a "It is deeply troubling that


a national newspaper should have paid individuals who have acted


in this way. I have referred these


allegations to my solicitor who will consider them carefully


and advise me accordingly. your views are welcome, as always.


You can tax, WhatsApp, Facebook, the usual. -- you can text.


This Wednesday, in London, we're holding a big audience programme


You are very welcome to join us, to take part -


whether you're a junior doctor, you work in the NHS,


you've been treated in hospital or are going to be affected


If you'd like to be part of the programme


to share your views, do email [email protected]


Let's get the latest weather update with Carol.


Thank you, Victoria, good morning. We have mixed fortunes. For many of


us it has been a cloudy start, for others it has not. We have had some


sunshine. These are pictures of the Highlands, beautiful skies, nice and


blue. As we come further south we have seen a lot of cloud, as we have


in the West. This week, the temperature is certainly going to be


getting that bit higher. It is going to warm up. Not everybody's cup of


tea, but it is for a lot of people. Into the afternoon we have had such


a cloudy start the day, we are looking at improving the rain across


the back across western Scotland is starting to fade. The brightest guys


will be in the north-east. Through the afternoon you will find it will


brighten up with highs of 24 today. Through eastern parts of England the


dry weather with some sunny spells. There is a lot of cloud around,


there will be breaks here and there. Wales looking at 24 in the sunshine.


South Wales and south-west England are going to hang onto all the cloud


and also the murky conditions with some drizzle and hell and coastal


fog. Through the evening and overnight again it is going to be a


cloudy run, lots of rain drizzle, it is going to be a humid one, too.


Temperatures not falling between 14 and 18, not lower than that.


Exceptionally mild night for this time of September. Tomorrow we start


off on a cloudy note, seeing some breaks, sunny spells, breezy in the


far north of Scotland, temperatures again 22 in Aberdeen, 22 in Cardiff,


and 25, possibly 26 around the London area. As we head into the


middle of the week, well, dry air is being pumped up from the near


continent. That is having an impact on the temperatures in the south of


England in particular. Some are in the south, we could hit 28 Celsius.


That doesn't mean we are looking at wall-to-wall blue skies. We start


off on Wednesday on a fairly cloudy note. Rain skirting past western


Scotland, showers ahead of it, a breezy day as well. You can see the


level of cloud, cloud tending to break here and there are allowing


the temperatures to rise. The Southeast is. Likely to see 28,


despite the 26 you can see that -- the Southeast is likely to see 28.


Thursday is similar in that it is going to start off on a cloudy note.


We have an area of low pressure coming in from the West. That is


going to introduce rain and windy conditions, possibly gales with


exposure in the West. Still, temperature wise we are into the


mid-20s in terms of Celsius. Three amazing women who survived


the most atrocious domestic abuse are now working hard to help others


who find themselves in similarly He slapped me down onto the bed


and then continued to just stand over me and pummel my head


into the bed and I remember thinking I could feel myself going out


of consciousness and I remember thinking if I don't get up somehow


to the other end of the bed He kept me locked in the bedroom


and carried on torturing me I think there were points


where I did actually I have a faith so I was praying one


minute to die because of the pain and then begging to stay alive


for the children. My kids thought it was normal to be


living in a household like that. And we have had the most incredible


reaction to the interviews with those three women, Mandy, Rachel and


Becky. If you want to watch the interview again, you can find it on


our programme page: National domestic abuse charity


Women's Aid say that government plans to cap housing benefit


could destroy the finances of refuges which take in women


and their children who've been victims of violence at the hands


of their partners. We will investigate that claim in


the next hour. One Tory MP says he's


considering reporting Keith Vaz to police over claims he paid two


male escorts for sex. The fact that Keith Vaz


is prevaricating over even resigning as chairman


of the Home Affairs Select Committee when he has brought Parliament


into such disrepute We'll also get reaction


from Labour MP simon Danzuck - who's experienced his own tabloid


sex scandal and says he feels Plus as Cold Feet returns to TV


tonight and Poldark last night, why do TV bosses love


rebooting old shows? Breaking news to bring you from Tel


Aviv in Israel. It has been reported by the Associated Press that is


really media are reporting that a building has collapsed in Tel Aviv,


and people may be trapped inside. It has been reported by Associated


Press, they are reporting that Israeli media are reporting a


building collapse in Tel Aviv. You can see live pictures at the moment.


A building has collapsed in Tel Aviv and reports are that people may be


trapped inside. Reports in the last few minutes from Israel. Those are


the live pictures right now from Tel Aviv.


Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.


The Prime Minister has questioned whether a points-based immigration


system, as suggested by many EU leave campaigners,


Theresa May said there was "no single silver bullet"


Her comments have prompted speculation that she might be


prepared to offer preferential treatment to EU citizens.


The Labour MP Chuka Ummuna says he supports Mrs May's stance.


Actually, in places like Australia, they actually wish to increase


the number of immigrants they have coming to their country.


Proportionally, Australia has three times more


According to their latest statistics, if you look


at the number of foreign-born citizens living there,


there are around 28%, more than double what we have here.


More than two months on from the referendum,


the government is about to reveal more about its plans


for negotiating the UK's future outside the European Union.


The Brexit Secretary, David Davis, is due to make a statement to MPs


and is expected to give some indication of what sort


of new relationship with Europe the government may try


And throughout the day there will be special reports across the BBC


looking at Brexit Britain two months after the vote.


And at half past four, the BBC News Channel and 5 Live


will host a live discussion programme from Nottingham -


which you can also watch via Facebook.


A Conservative MP has told this programme that Keith Vaz,


who's alleged to have paid male escorts, is bringing


parliament into disrepute and his position is untenable.


Andrew Bridgen says he's considering reporting Mr Vaz,


a Leicester MP for Labour, to the police.


Mr Vaz has indicated he'll confirm tomorrow whether he'll


step aside as chairman of the Commons Home Affairs


Committee, after the allegations were published in the Sunday Mirror.


The 59-year-old, who's married with two children, has apologised


for the 'hurt and distress' he's caused them.


Victoria will be speaking to Simon Jang joke, who has his own


experience of a tabloid scandal, after this report. -- Simon Danczuk.


Farmers, lorry drivers and traders in Calais are starting to blockade


They are protesting over the migrant camp known as the Jungle


Around 9,000 people are living there.


The mayor of Calais is joining the demonstrations.


The protest is likely to cause major disruption.


Giant pandas are officially no longer an endangered species.


After decades of work by conservationists,


they have now been reduced to the lower category


The increase in numbers is being put down to successful breeding


programmes and the measures taken to protect bamboo forests.


That's a summary of the latest BBC News.


So many of you getting in touch about our interview with Mandy,


Rachel and Becky about the domestic violence they expereinced.


Becky says, absolutely fantastic women. They are very, very strong


ladies. Kathleen Jones in Shropshire says: I was 61 when I walked away


from my marriage with nothing. A refuge took me on. I still struggle


with post-traumatic stress disorder and it took me five years to settle


down. At 68, I now live a peaceful life and I have built a new home for


myself. This from somebody who does not leave their name: I was a


domestic abuse outreach worker and these women on your programme today


are amazing, as are all women who have experienced domestic violence.


I have retired because of reductions to the funding to the service I was


providing meant it's changed to a third rate service overnight due to


lack of funding. This should not be happening but it is. The government


is saying this is important and they are putting in funding for it


except. But the reality is that it does not back this up. -- funding


for it, etc. I have seen politicians being planned by the perpetrators. I


saw social services being conned by manipulative perpetrators. I thought


a lot was wrong with the system during my eight years working in the


field. I admire the women on your programme for what they're doing.


The whole system does need a shake-up.


Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -


If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.


Good morning. A new manager and a new era but there seems to be the


same old frustrations for England. Sam Allardyce became the ninth


England manager in a row to win his first match in charge but he had to


wait until the 95th minute to beat Slovakia 1-0 thanks to this goal


from Adam Lallana, his first for his country. It came at the end of a


sluggish performance in the World Cup qualifier. Lots of possession,


very few chances. Might ring too many bells from Euro 2016 and big


Sam is aware of the extra scrutiny he is under. Everyone is looking at


you, and they want you to show us the way forward, to be successful.


So it is that much bigger when the nation is watching you. Scotland are


top of a fledgling Group F above England after their 5-1 win at


Malta. Robert Snodgrass clinched a hat-trick with this goal, helping


Scotland pull away from their opponents who ended the match with


only nine men. While Northern Ireland's opening qualifier finished


goalless in the Czech Republic in what was their first game since the


last 16 epidurals. Michael O'Neill says he is happy with a point


against one of the tougher teams in their group. Kyle Edmund's run to


the fourth round of the US Open was ended dramatically by world number


one, Novak Djokavic. The Briton lost in straight sets against the


defending champion who had received two walkovers getting this far. And


despite needing brief attention on his troublesome arm, he looked back


to his best as he won 6-2, 6-1, 6-4 to set up a quarterfinal against


Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. I'm just enjoying the experience. It is


beastly a tough match. I was happy to have got something going during


the match and I started to impose myself better. That was good. But


yes, I have a lot of work to do from it.


That match didn't start until 10pm local time


Rafael Nadal knocked out of the tournament


The 24th seed came back from a break down in the final set


to win it on the tie break with his fourth match point.


It's the first time in 12 years that the two time winner


in New York Nadal has failed to reach a Grand Slam last 8.


The British number one beaten in straight sets by the unseeded


Later Andy Murray plays his fourth round match against Grigor Dimitrov.


England fell just short of a series whitewash against Pakistan,


losing the final one day international by


Set 303 to win, the tourists posted their highest


score of the series to take the 5th game.


Imad Wasim, born down the road in Swansea,


It's England's first white ball defeat all summer.


With just the T20 match between the two to come on Wednesday.


And Stuart Lancaster is back in club rugby.


England's former head coach has joined Irish side Leinster


as a member of their senior coaching team.


It's his first job since leaving the RFU after England's poor


This information on who says the Jeremy Corbyn is going to call for


all party members to be allowed to elect Labour MPs to the Shadow


Cabinet. Allies of Mr Corbyn have also floated the idea of allowing


the party conference to have a say over membership of the Shadow


Cabinet. The move comes ahead of debates tonight at the Parliamentary


Labour Party over who should determine membership.


As we heard just moments ago, the Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen


has told us here on Derbyshire that he may report the Labour


politician Keith Vaz to the police over claims he paid two male


Andrew Bridgen, the MP for North East Leicestershire, told us that he


is also writing to the Parliamentary Commissioner for standards over


Keith Vaz's alleged behaviour. We can speak now to the Labour MP


Simon Danzcuk, whose personal life has been the subject


of tabloid newspapers. He's currently suspended


from the Labour Party after admitting sending lewd texts


to a 17-year-old girl, although points out


he hasn't broken any laws. Thank you for talking to us. How do


you react to the allegations involving Keith Vaz? Well, I have


some sympathy with Keith. He is clearly been subject to a tabloid


sting. I think there are issues about his moral standing, no doubt,


and in terms of whether there is any hypocrisy there. But in terms of the


galaxies, I do not believe he has committed any crimes as I understand


it. I think we should be sympathetic, especially to his wife


and children, who will be going through hell because of the media


attention they are getting. But also we should have simply for Keith. He


has obviously been struggling with his sexuality for quite some time


and for it to come out in this way is probably not helpful to him.


Having been in the middle of similar sorts of situations yourself, what


do you think Mr Vaz will be experiencing right now? Give us some


insight to our audience. You feel like a rabbit in the headlights, no


matter how much media experience you have had in the run-up. I am sure he


will be struggling with that. He will be having conversations with


his family and trying to reassure them. There will be pressed


intrusion and interest in what he is doing and where he is doing and he


will find that very difficult. But he is a strong character and I am


sure he will cope with it and come through it. As a society, do you


think we judge politicians more harshly than we do people in other


walks of life? I think the wider public, beyond social media, which


tends to have a negative focus on all editions, the wider public are


sympathetic. They have a keen interest in our private lives, and a


curiosity about that. That is why tabloid newspapers print the stories


they do. And I do not think we should condemn newspapers for doing


that, that is the nature of the press. But I also think the public,


as well as having that curiosity, there needs to be -- they are less


condemnatory of politicians. They are curious but they do not want to


condemn them necessarily. You are currently suspended from the


Labour Party for sending text messages to a 17-year-old. You were


recently in the newspapers for other areas of your private life as well.


How much do you take responsibility for these kind of things are merging


into the public domain? There is no doubt about it, I'm not blaming the


press. I does that that the tabloids do their work and focus on the


private lives of politicians and celebrities and all the rest of it,


that is the nature of the media and I do not condemn them for that at


all. I take full responsibility for what I do in my private life in


relation to some of the allegations that you have mentioned, I have


already apologised. I'm sure that Keith is regretful. Of what has


happened on the way that it has come out. It will be very difficult for


him at this time. Finally, it should Keith Vaz stand down? A Conservative


MP is demanding this. Andrew has got this completely wrong. There is no


reason for Keith to stand down as a member of Parliament. It is


inappropriate for him to call for this. Keith is a good


parliamentarian, he is very well regarded, that is why he gets so


much support. He is a very good member of Parliament for the


constituency that he represents. He should carry on being an MP. With


regard to chairing the Home Affairs Select Committee, I understand he


will discuss that with the members of the committee. It is an elected


position, you have to bear in mind, he is there by favour of


parliamentarians and he will consider his position. I understand


that there are issues around a relative of what has been going on


and issues of hypocrisy. Meanwhile, I think we should have sympathy for


the situation in which he and his family find themselves. Thank you.


Travellers to and from France are facing severe disruption because of


protesters. They feel they are suffering because of the so-called


Jungle migrant camps. Thousands of people in the French


town of Calais are taking part in a demonstration demanding


the closure of the migrant camp, Lorries and farm vehicles


blocking main roads, and local people and business owners


are forming a human chain Dubbed Operation Snail,


some truckers say they'll keep up their barricades


until they receive assurances that the northern section


of The Jungle will be torn down. The camp itself is violent


and lawless - 10,000 people One protesting farmers said that the


camp must go. They cannot get to England, so why are they allowed to


stay here? Richard Galpin is in Calais. I can't see the blockade.


Where is the human chain, Richard? Well, what you are seeing actually


in effect is the blockade. Behind me, this is the motorway, the


carriageway which actually leads into Calais from Dunkirk. It is


obviously a very, very important road. Normally it would be blocked


with traffic, tourists and obviously lorries going towards the port to


come to Britain. Now as you can see it is completely empty because of


the blockade. We have had the go slow off the big, big long convoy of


lorries and tractors going past here with their emergency lights


flashing. They are the ones who aren't forcing the blockade,


grinding their way very, very slowly towards Calais. Actually from the


other side, from the South, it is another motorcade of vehicles coming


towards Calais on this same motorway. From both directions, the


motorway is being close on the bound carriageway. You can imagine just


how much disruption that is causing. As I say, this would normally be a


very busy route indeed. At the same time, another protest is taking


place on foot, with this human chain trying to make their way towards the


port itself. We understand the police have stopped them from coming


on to this motorway. But they are trying to link up so that they can


create effectively a blockade at the port itself. In in a way, it is a


bizarre scenario that the people of Calais blockading their own town. We


will see what effect it has. Thank you, Richard.


The Prime Minister Theresa May has questioned the effectiveness


of a points-based immigration system after Britain leaves the EU.


Our political guru Norman Smith is following reaction at Westminster.


Remind us, Norman, what she is questioning? Well, she is basically


the torpedo in the big idea of the Brexit team, the control


immigration. There idea was to have an Australian points-based


immigration system. How does this work? I suppose bluntly the more


points you get the more chance you have of getting in, and you get


points for things like skills. So if you are a brain surgeon or if you


are a whiz kid high-tech entrepreneur, you get loads of


points and you have got a very good chance of getting in. If on the


other hand you are an estate agent, or even worse, a journalist, you get


almost no points and have pretty much zero chance of getting in. The


Brexit camp thought this was the way to reduce immigration into the UK.


But what has Mrs Medan? Pretty much chucked it in the bin, she is not


interested. Not surprisingly, alarm bells ring amongst some of the


Brexiting is. I mean, everyone will remember this was a massive issue


during the referendum campaign. I mean, Brexit, the flip side was


immigration. And it leaves unanswered, how is Mrs May going to


reduce the number of people coming into the UK? And you sense she is


beginning to struggle with this, in part because of her background as


Home Secretary. She knows how difficult it is to get migration


down. She failed to get migration down. She has said there is no


silver bullet to deal with it. The trouble is, the leading Brexiteers


made this point -based system absolutely central to their whole


case for leaving the EU. Just have a listen to a couple of them. What we


think should happen is an Australian style points-based system. So we get


the people we need for the NHS and indeed all our other businesses and


services. The only you can do that is the Vote Leave and take back


control. Put in place a proper points system where we get people


coming to this country who have trades and skills to bring, who


haven't got criminal records and who will bring their own health


insurance. In this country there is overwhelming support for that


policy. So the question is, why has Theresa May poured a big splosh of


cold water over there idea of this points-based system? I guess number


one is it is seen as bureaucratic. You have to jot up all the different


points people can get, not just in terms of their skills, but also in


terms of their house, in terms of their educational background,


whether they have any criminal records. There is also the view that


it ignores the views of bosses. It is by large shaped by Government.


Who decides who should come in, not employers, they are the ones who


have the final say, and the biggest problem of all is more migrants.


When you look at the Australian system, actually it hasn't led to a


reduction in the number of migrants coming into the UK, in Australia,


per head of population, net migration there is actually much,


much higher than in the UK. From the point of view of Mrs May, it doesn't


work. For that reason, she has sidelined their big idea. That


leaves two problems. One, what is her alternative? And two, how on


earth does she reassure those accident years that she is not going


soft on curbing immigration. -- those wrecks it heres. Thank you,


Norman. This Wednesday, in London, we're


holding a big audience programme You are very welcome


to join us, to take part - whether you're a junior doctor,


you work in the NHS, you've been treated in hospital


or are going to be affected by the 5-day strikes; if you'd


like to be part of the programme to share your views -


do email [email protected] This morning, the General Medical


Council are warning that the scale of the strike action cannot be


dusted five. -- cannot be justified. Professor Terence Stephenson


is Chair of the General You regulate and monitor junior


doctors. What are you saying to them? The GMC has no role in the


dispute between doctors and their employers, but we're existing


project the public and patience and we issued guidance all the time --


to protect the public. We feel this degree of escalation at this short


notice would take out maybe 50,000 skilled and talented doctors out of


the workforce, this is likely to result in harm to patients. What


sort of harm? So in the past strikes, as a consultant I covered


two of the previous strikes... Covered as in you stood in junior


doctors? Yes, and the whole sector worked hard to mitigate it and avoid


the risk of people dying, tragically unavoidably. But there is more harm


than just there. If you have a week a month with cancelled operations


where people aren't paying waiting for surgery, if you have cancelled


scans and slopes where people might be waiting for a diagnosis that


could be cancer, those people are being harmed. They may not die


during the five days, but the cumulative effect of the escalation


we think will harm patients. If you can link junior doctors striking the


harm to patients, what will you do to those junior doctors? Well, we


operate under the 1983 medical act, an act of


Parliament that directs what we do. That was never designed for mass


industrial action involving tens of thousands of doctors. It is designed


so that we can take action where one doctor does something wrong with one


patient. But having said that. If an individual doctor were to be


reported to us and harm had occurred through what they did to an


individual patient, we are obliged by that act of Parliament to look


into that. I cannot judge, but we would be obliged to take that


seriously. If the patient complained because their operation had been


delayed or cancelled, and that led to them continuing in pain, you


would take that up and investigate that particular junior doctor? We


can't second-guess every situation, but you can see there will be a


problem identifying which single doctor. Let me give you perhaps


obvious dramatic example. If a doctor was on strike and was asked


to come back and desist because somebody had got ill and the service


no could longer cope -- and assist. And that Doctor declined and that


was reported to us, we would be obliged to investigate that because


there would be a clearly to an individually registered doctor and


an individual event. Thank you very much for talking to us. Professor


Terence Stephenson from the GMC, head of the GMC.


The national domestic abuse charity Women's Aid say that Government


plans to cap housing benefit could destroy the finances


of refuges for victims of domestic abuse.


It could lead to the closure of almost two thirds of refuges for


victims of domestic abuse. We will speak to their boss in the next half


an hour. There are currently 73 MEPs that


who will lose their seats As part of the BBC's


Brexit Britain Day, we followed two MEPs to find out how life has


changed since the Brexit vote. latest news headlines with Joanne.


The Prime Minister has questioned whether a points-based immigration


system as suggested by many EU leave campaigners would see the UK.


Theresa May has said there was no single silver bullet for dealing


with migration. Downing Street has indicated that the Government would


rather retain control over the numbers than handed over to a strict


criteria -based system. But her comments have prompted regulation


that she might be prepared to offer preferential treatment to EU


citizens. More than two months on from the referendum, the Government


is about to reveal more about its plans for renegotiating the UK's


future outside the EU. The Brexiter secretary David Davis is due to make


a statement to MPs, and is expected to give some indication as to what


sort of new relationship with Europe the Government may try to establish.


A Conservative MP has told this programme at Keith Vaz, who is


alleged to have paid male escorts, is bringing parliament into


disrepute and his position is untenable. The Conservative MP says


he is considering reporting Mr Vaz, the less than people Labour, to the


police. Mr Vaz has indicated that will confirm tomorrow whether he


will step aside as chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Committee after


the allegations were published in the Sunday Mirror. The 59-year-old,


who is married with two children, has apologised for the hurt and


distress he has caused them. Figures published in the past half hour said


that Britain's services industry balanced back strongly after a sharp


contraction following the Brexit vote. The purchasing managers index


for the services sector has seen its biggest increase in 20 years. The


sector accounts for nearly 80% of the UK economy. The survey echoes


the upbeat tone of numbers released last week on the manufacturing and


construction sectors in August. A building collapsed in Israel's


commercial capital Tel Aviv has left at least six people winded and the


number of others missing. Incident occurred at the construction site in


north-eastern Tel Aviv. It is believed that a crane fell down


causing the building to collapse. Nine people have taken to hospital.


The Israeli military said it has dispatched search and rescue footage


to the scene. Footage shared an social media has shown a blast on


the construction site. Do join us for BBC newsroom live at 11am. The


using. Here is Hugh with the sport. Sam Allardyce's first match in


charge is one with the last kick of the game. England have Adam Lallana


to thank. His 95th minute goal, and his first for the country, giving a


1-0 lead against Slovakia in the World Cup qualifier. Still plenty of


questions about the performance. Less so than Scotland, they are top


of the group that they share with England after their 5-1 win in


Malta. Roberts Snodgrass scoring a hat-trick. Northern Ireland drew


their opening qualifier with the Czech Republic 0-0. Kyle Evans's run


has been ended by the world number one. Novak Djokovic looked back to


his best and won in straight sets in New York. His quarterfinal will be


against Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. Earlier on in the evening, Rafa Nadal was


knocked out. Johanna Konta is also out. The British number one was


beaten in straight sets by the unseeded Latvian who is having a


wonderful tournament at Flushing Meadows. Andy Murray by the way is


the only Brit left. He plays Dimitrov at midnight. More on that


little bit later on. And has admitted a 15-year-old


schoolgirl, Page Doherty, who disappeared from Clydebank in West


Dunbartonshire on March 19. Her body was found in bushes two days later.


A 32-year-old called John Latham has pleaded guilty to her murder during


an appearance at the High Court in Glasgow. Those people on the edge of


their seats wondering how the UK will negotiate its way out of the EU


will get an idea this afternoon when Davis Davis outlines his plans to


MPs. -- David Davis. One thing for sure, when it does happen, our MEPs


will lose their seats and jobs. There are currently 73 MEPs


representing constituencies in the UK and Northern Ireland and as part


of our Brexit Britain day, we followed two of them to find out how


life has changed since the referendum.


Since the mid 90s, I had been trying, in my little bit, to do


something about EU membership. And suddenly we have succeeded. The


British people agreed with me, by and large. I was thrilled. It took


me a couple of days to really recover from it. I was totally


stunned and shocked, thinking, really?! I kept thinking it was a


bad dream and we would wake up from it.


I didn't tell very many people I had joined Ukip. Most of them had never


heard of it anyway. It really wasn't until I stood in the 2001 general


election that it became a problem to some of my family. Take votes of the


Conservatives, that is what they always said, that was the war cry.


And although they would have agreed with me about the problems of the


European Union, Ukip should not stand in general elections because


the Conservatives would one day sorted out. I remember the night


when I first won, that feeling of elation and also really being able


to do something. It's a great disappointment to me


that the EU is bringing in this legislation that's


going to make trading in futures On the other hand, there were MEPs


from Britain who were on the Remain I mean, look what's


happened to them. They thought, in some cases,


they had jobs for life. The answer I was getting was Labour,


labour and out. In Norfolk, we are front line county for immigration.


Large numbers of people arrived here speaking different front line


witches and it made getting into schools difficult. There is a


general unease about where is it all going to stop.


England has always been seen as being a Eurosceptic area. We have a


strong Ukip presence in this part of the world. I decided to attend the


count at transferred. -- Chelmsford. When I learned that we had won, I


was elated. I have been worried about the EU for 20 years, and its


impact on our lives. I thought a little bit I was doing would never


get us very far and suddenly it had done. We were there. I thought we


would just edge through. But it was quite clear as the night was going


along, when you got all the results in, even looking at the results that


were being counted, it was extremely worrying. It was really pretty


emotional. Lots of my family and friends calling up, I got a lot of


text messages. They are just in a period of disbelief that this has


been the result. And I think many people, including myself, I was


completely and utterly stunned. The Don is breaking on an independent


United Kingdom. -- the dawn. I can make interventions on three. I do


not walk around this place scowling. I will not do that. As regards


missing it, I will not miss the fact that this committee is dictating how


we farm in the United Kingdom, I will not miss that. It is not true.


When I got back to Brussels, there were people from other countries in


Eurosceptic groups who could not wait to come up to me and shake my


hand and say, well done, you have done it and now maybe we will do it.


It is of great disappointment to me that the EU is bringing in this


legislation that will make trading in futures commodity is more


difficult. On the other hand, there were MEPs from Britain on the


remaining side who gave me very frosty looks. I do not blame them, I


do not blame them. Look at what has happened to them, in some cases they


thought they had jobs for life. The first day back was really pretty


horrible. Because it was almost like you were going through a


bereavement. People were coming up and giving the big hugs, and I had


colleagues who were crying and saying, I cannot believe it, that


you are going to be leaving. With universities, the major concern is


that some of them are being excluded from projects already. There is


anecdotal evidence... I think that since the vote, the British MEPs


have been marginalised. I know that there were efforts to take me off


one of the big reports that I am negotiating on.


Thank you, Chair. Colleagues, we will be voting on the budget for


2017. We have a number of committee chairs on key committees that matter


to us around safety, security, and on migration and single markets. And


I know that there were moves to try and say, OK, British MEPs cannot


have that, but we have been able to fight that off in the interim. Until


we leave, I want to be an active member of the Parliament.


I don't know about you but I think that if you were to go anywhere in


the Eastern region, and say to somebody in the street, who are your


MEPs, they would not now. Would you think that in the West Midlands?


Yes, I think that if you picked up somebody at random and you ask them


and you could do the same thing about the MP or the Prime Minister


that they might not know, I think we will miss our MEPs. I do not think


individuals will be missed but I think that not being around the


table to influence things, in years to come people will see the


difference. But what can we do that the MP could not? Well, we have a


network year. We are working with MEPs everyday from other countries,


so I am able to go up to that MEP from Italy or Spain or wherever and


say, I have a problem, can you direct me to the right organisation


two and they do. Actually, I am able to resolve these cases. I managed to


get a woman out of prison in Cyprus, and I went around all the Greek MEPs


personally, to their offices in Cyprus, and got no help at all. That


may be where you stand in terms of your political party. You have not


really created a lot of good will. Well, we got out of prison but I


think MP probably did the bulk of the work.


I see my future as finishing off the job, initially. There were four


phasers to it, getting the referendum, winning the referendum


and voting in Article 50. We have done two of those and that has taken


23 years. British people did vote to leave the European Union and they


must execute our wishes. My role is now to work towards getting the best


deal. And we are not going to get the best deal if we are rude and


aggressive to our partners. We are going to get the best deal if we


work with them and at least try to understand that, OK, we have not


helped their situation but we would still like to remain friends and


work with them. And BBC News will be reporting on Brexit Britain


throughout the day with reports on BBC and online. Thank you, thank you


to all of you who got in touch to either share your own experience of


domestic abuse today or to simply thank the three women, Rachel, Mandy


and Becky, who were on the programme earlier and survived of the most


horrendous domestic abuse, sometimes over years. They have now come


together, the three of them, to help others who find themselves in


similarly dangerous situations. A couple of messages here. Pamela


says: I have been watching your programme today and it has reduced


me to tears. I was abused mentally and physically in my first marriage.


I put up with it for 13 years and left my home with nothing. In those


days, women had no rights. I was told I would lose my children and I


could not get rehoused. Your programme has brought it back and I


realise that I still carry the scars but thank you for highlighting this


problem. This viewer does not want to use his or her name. My mother


walked away from a long marriage after 20 years of abuse. Domestic


abuse is real and painful for the children. Even though I am in my


40s, I had to support my mother through terrible experiences. There


is little support and that needs to change. She lost everything but she


is now free from an incredibly controlling husband. Another


anonymous one, four police cars came to get me and my children out of the


house when my partner snapped and was wielding a knife. We had no


money, not a penny. The train conductor let us get on the train


for free. We arrived at my sister's house and we ask for help. We got


nothing and it was weeks before they would give us a penny. The does not


seem to be much help any more and no safety net. They took it all away.


Let's play a short extract of what Mandy, brittle and Becky told us


earlier in the programme. -- Rachel and Becky.


He slapped me down on to the bed and then continued to just stand


over me and pummel my head into the bed and I could feel myself


going out of consciousness and I remember thinking if I don't


get up somehow to the other end of the bed, he's going to kill me.


He kept me locked in the bedroom and carried on torturing me


I think there were points where I did actually


I have a faith so I was praying one minute to die because of the pain


and then begging to stay alive for the children.


My kids thought it was normal to be living in a household like that.


You'll be able to watch and share that full interview


again via our programme page - bbc.co.uk/victoria.


There's a warning today that two-thirds of women's refuges


in England are facing closure due to a change in the way


The national domestic abuse charity Women's Aid say that Government


plans to cap housing benefit to sheltered housing at the same


levels paid to private landlords could destroy


the finances of the refuges, which take in women


and their children who've been victims of violence at the hands


The housing benefit cap is part of a ?12 billion package of cuts


We can talk now to Polly Neate, Chief Executive of Women's Aid.


Sue Cox runs a Women's Refuge facing closure in Wiltshire.


And Dawn Morville has experienced domestic abuse and has


stayed in several refuges across the country.


They were literally a lifeline for me and my children. I wouldn't be


here today if it wasn't for a refuge, and I wouldn't have my


Jordan with me. The final act from my ex-husband almost took my life --


my children with me. And if I hadn't had a refuge to go to, I wouldn't be


here. It is down to the refuges that are there that help people like me,


you know, and if they are not there, I don't want to know. Suit, in terms


of your own plays, tell us what it faces and why? We are a little


refuge in a rural community. We are full all of the time, and this


benefit cut will mean that we will have to close, if it happens. 40% of


our funding will go, the money goes directly into our servers, it pays


for our staff to be that 24/7, it pays for 11 families to be free of


domestic abuse. If you close, where will those women and kids go? They


will probably stay where they are, in abusive relationships, violent


families, dangerous situations. Polly, explain why this is an issue


in terms of this housing benefit cap and it affecting refuges,


potentially? When we survey the refuges it accounts for more than


half of the funding of a very large proportion of refuges. And


basically, if it is capped, they will no longer be sustainable. We


have already heard one of the other main sources of funding from refuges


as local authorities, and we have already heard of local authorities


saying the refuges, we are not going to fund you any more because when


this benefit cap is implemented you will not be sustainable. They are


saying, why would we throw good money after bad? It is a massive


threat. To be specific about the figures, under the Housing cap the


income of one refuge would reduce from ?300 to ?60 per room per week.


You are saying that is just not enough financially, it is not


financially viable? No, it just isn't sustainable, there is no


amount of local fundraising, brilliant though it is, no coffee


mornings are going to make up that sum of money, it is just impossible


for refuges to survive. The key thing we want to say to the


Government is, actually we know the Government know how important these


refuges are, they have put in the money in response to our campaigning


before. Surely they don't want to undo all these good works through


the welfare reforms? It is tiny proportion of the welfare cuts that


are accounted for by refuges. It is not a huge amount of money in terms


of the whole welfare pot. We are really urging the Government to


exempt refuges from the welfare reforms and to do it urgently.


Obviously we talked to them about this. They told us they are


reviewing this very issue to see if it is sustainable in the long term.


I mean, they are looking at this right now. How hopeful Ayew that


they will change their minds? They are looking at it and they have


delayed for a year. However, our survey took that into account and


was asking for what would happen to refuges if this cap is implemented


from 2018. What we really need is a permanent exemption from this. And


we want the Government to work with us on a long-term sustainable system


of funding for refuges. Because, you know, as women's aid have been


pointing out for several years now, refuges are lurching from funding


crisis the funding crisis. This is the latest in a series of amazing


setbacks. It is incredible that refuges have survived, actually. And


it is down to the women who work in them and their commitment, we are


above beyond the call of duty. -- way above beyond the call of duty.


We want a long slump sustainable funding solution for refuges so they


do not have a constant series of crisis. -- a long-term sustainable


funding. What is it like living in a refuge of New -- with your kids? It


can be difficult, because you have to live with other families, other


women and their children. But the support you get is invaluable,


support for your children and yourself. It is the only time that


you can actually breathe and think and take stock of what it is that


you need and what you need to do. And look at the future in a way that


you have never been able to do before because it is so hopeless


when you are in a relationship like that. You can't think and you only


think in the way that the man that you are with once you'd think. That


gives you the space to be able to think, I am a person in my own


right, what do I want for my children and our future? That is the


only that you can do that in an abusive relationship. The support is


immense. Safety and the ability for you to consider the rest of your


life. And the lives of your children, which are more important,


you know, because I think if this happens, if one person, just one


child or woman, loses their life, it is too many, and it's not worth


that. You know, for money, at the end of the day. For something that


is so crucial to women all over the country. Thank you very much a dawn.


Thank you, Sue and Polly from women's aid. We asked the Government


for an interview this morning but they declined. They sent us this


statement in stead... Obviously we will report back in the


autumn as to what they have had to say.


If you've been affected by domestic violence,


and want to get help, then you can find a list of


All the information is at: bbc.co.uk/actionline


including a 24-hour National Domestic Violence Helpline


Why do TV execs love rebooting old shows?


Last night saw the return of the BBC's Poldark.


Images of actor Aidan Turner scything in a field topless became


one of the most famous scenes on British television last year,


with more than six million people following the story


This series seems to be equally steamy so far. Last night's episode


got more than 5 million viewers. Cold Feet returns to ITV tonight,


13 years after the original which followed three couples


experiencing the ups-and-downs The new series catches up with those


instantly recognisable characters at a very different


time in their lives. So why do TV execs like


rebooting old programmes? Let's talk to the creator and writer


of Cold Feet, Mike Boolen, We also have Adrian Lobb,


TV writer for The Big Issue, and Emma Bullimore, TV


critic for the TV Times. Welcome, all of you. Mike, why is it


a good thing to bring cold feedback and catch up with these characters?


I think the only reason for doing it is because there is an interesting


stage of life again. When we saw them the first time around, they


were on the cusp of change, settling down and starting families. Then I


was asked to bring it back, and we said no, because all that they were


doing was bringing up children, having done that myself I don't


think it is a pedigree interesting time of life for yourself, it is all


about the kids. But now the characters are getting beyond bad,


the kids are more independent, going off and living there own lives. --


going beyond bad. They have the next 25 years of life or so for


themselves. Reboots are big at the moment, why? Execs are looking for a


guaranteed audience, a dead hit. We love these characters, we have grown


up watching these characters. Of a certain age, but what about younger


viewers? They are so well drawn characters that you connect with


them straightaway, you love them straightaway, you feel like you know


them almost instantly. By the end of episode one, new audiences will feel


like they have known these characters their whole life as well.


Emma, let me ask you about Poldark. Presumably you would say that is


popular with all ages, not just nostalgia from those who were little


when it was back in the 70s? So many people were so excited about it, it


is a different animal to cold feet, because that is the next series


whereas Poldark is a different remake. Sometimes, what is better


with drama is the comedy. People are more tolerant of that. We have seen


with sitcoms recently, comedies, people feel connected to a certain


actor with a certain role. With Poldark, the drama, sometimes that


work that. As a writer, what are the risks of writing a new series with


the characters however many years on? I think the main risk is that


you don't try hard enough, you kind of count on the audience coming back


and feel as though you have done your job. The fact of the matter is,


you've got to treat it as though it is a new series, you still got a kid


compelling, both dramatically and for us, comedically as well. -- make


it compelling. We have got fined the stories to allow us to do what we


did before, as well as we did it before. You say it might be an easy


choice of a TV executives, but in a sense it is quite risky for them,


because the bar is set quite high by people's memory of the first series.


If we don't achieve that, we will be viewed to be a failure. That is


really interesting. Is this cold feet going to be as successful as


the original? Isaac at is going to be massive. Do you? -- I think it


is. Within ten seconds of the first episode, I felt like I was back into


that world with those people, like going to reunion with friends you


haven't seen for a long time. Some reunions can be a disaster! Mike,


that is great praise for you. At the moment, we are full of crime and


period drama and reality shows, it is refreshing, to have a really good


drama back on our screens is a delight. Let's talk about period


drama. Poldark went up Victoria, that had excellent reviews. Poldark


today have excellent reviews. -- Poldark went up against Victoria.


Why do audiences love this type of show too much. He does look lovely,


there is no doubt about that, but he also connects with these times


coming he is grasping for his community, difficult times, he is


rolling up his sleeves and getting back to work and trying to help


everybody in his community, and I think that really connects with now


as well. Yes, of course he looks lovely and it is a bodice ripper and


their relationship is wonderful to behold. I think it is a bigger story


than that. That is why it hit so hard last year. What about Victoria,


Emma? What you think in comparison to Poldark? Although it is a ratings


war, the same people are watching both. It has a very strict moral


compass, there is a right and wrong, there is a hero and a baddie. People


enjoy that, pure escapism. Both shows are beautifully shot, you look


at Cornwall in Poldark yesterday, and with Victoria, it taps into part


of our history and we always enjoy that. Mike, thank you very much, we


wish you all the best. I will be watching!


On the programme tomorrow, an interview with Sharon Shoesmith,


the former Children's Services boss sacked after baby Peter Connelly


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