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On the programme today - more support for struggling | :00:08. | :00:19. | |
families, funds to build affordable homes, a rise in the minimum | :00:20. | :00:21. | |
wage for people over 25, and reforms to Universal Credit | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
are all expected to be announced when the chancellor | :00:25. | :00:26. | |
I'm outside the Treasury where Philip Hammond is seeking to | :00:27. | :00:33. | |
fend-off Theresa May as she seeks to flash the cash for struggling | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
families. He is warning of a possible Brexit black hole and | :00:38. | :00:39. | |
ballooning borrowing. Also on the programme - | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
in an exclusive interview on this programme the husband of teacher | :00:43. | :00:44. | |
Ann Maguire who was murdered by a pupil in Leeds tells us | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
he thinks not enough lessons have And other teachers lives | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
could still be at risk. And following our exclusive | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
interview with former footballer Andy Woodward who revealed he'd been | :00:55. | :00:58. | |
abused for years and raped hundreds of times by a former youth coach, | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
two other players have waived their right to anonymity | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
to detail the abuse It started from touching and then | :01:05. | :01:19. | |
developed more and more with the sexual abuse and the threats of | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
violence towards your family really if you were to breathe a word to | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
anybody. Lots of coverage today - | :01:28. | :01:37. | |
as you'd expect on the Chancellor's But also we'll be | :01:38. | :01:49. | |
looking at the alt-right and the influence they | :01:50. | :01:56. | |
have on Donald Trump - he's now distanced himself | :01:57. | :01:58. | |
from some elements. As always do get in touch | :01:59. | :02:00. | |
on all the stories we're talking about this morning - | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
use the hashtag Victoria Live and if you text, you will be charged | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
at the standard network rate. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, | :02:06. | :02:08. | |
is expected to announce plans to build more affordable homes, | :02:09. | :02:11. | |
increase the National Living Wage and ban letting agent fees | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
in England, when he makes his first The Chancellor will also unveil | :02:15. | :02:16. | |
forecasts which are expected to show Mr Hammond has warned | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
of "turbulence" and "an unprecedented level of uncertainty" | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
as the UK leaves the EU. Our Political Correspondent | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
Eleanor Garnier reports. It is his first Autumn | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
Statement as Chancellor. Philip Hammond's moment to set out | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
the Government's tax His challenge, to help cash-strapped | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
households and at the same time tackle what he thinks | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
is a troubled economic outlook. The Chancellor is going to have | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
to respond to two things. One is a huge amount of uncertainty | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
about the direction of the economy. He is going to have to make | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
decisions not really knowing But one thing we can be sure | :02:48. | :02:49. | |
of is that the forecast for the economy will have got quite | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
a lot worse since the Budget and therefore, he is going to be | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
borrowing more than George So what do we know will | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
definitely come up? Well, the new rate for the National | :03:02. | :03:13. | |
Living Wage will be ?7.50 That is an increase | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
of full-time staff of the 25. There is new investment for housing | :03:17. | :03:19. | |
in England and Wales, ?1.4 billion by 2020 to build | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
an additional 40,000 And changes to Universal Credit | :03:23. | :03:24. | |
will mean millions of people will be able to keep a little more | :03:25. | :03:32. | |
of their benefits as They are all policies designed | :03:33. | :03:34. | |
to meet the Prime Minister's promise to support families | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
who are just about managing. The Chancellor has admitted the UK's | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
debt is eye wateringly the large The Chancellor has admitted the UK's | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
debt is eye wateringly large and with Brexit on the horizon | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
he is planning for an economy he says needs to be watertight | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
to cope with sharp challenges ahead. Our Political Guru Norman Smith | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
is in Downing Street. Has there been a tussle between | :03:58. | :04:09. | |
Number Ten and number 11? This is the story of a showdown between the | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
guy in there and the woman in there because the guy in there, Philip | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
Hammond, is looking at the books and is saying, "Oh boy, there is no | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
money. ." The projections are that borrowing could be more than ?1 | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
money billion more by 2020 to reach a record level, the deficit drags on | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
into the 2020s and growth will be downgraded so he is saying to | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
Theresa May, hang on, hang on. There is no cash. She is saying "Wait a | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
moment, I promised to help people who are struggling, those who are | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
just getting by, you have got to do something, we have to deliver." | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
That's why there will be help for easing some of the benefit pain, a | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
rise to in the national Living Wage and extra support to help people get | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
into housing, but you sense it's going to be cautious. It's going to | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
be careful. It's going to be constrained. There will be little | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
bits and pieces for those who are just managing, but it is pall going | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
to be a little bit incy bitsy. There won't be massive amounts of money to | :05:16. | :05:17. | |
throw around. Annita is in the BBC | :05:18. | :05:19. | |
Newsroom with a summary Donald Trump has condemned | :05:20. | :05:21. | |
the fringe "alt-right" group that celebrated his election win | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
with Nazi salutes. Mr Trump said he does not | :05:29. | :05:30. | |
want to "energize" the group, which includes neo-Nazis, | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
white supremacists and anti-Semites. Alt-right supporters were filmed | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
on Saturday in Washington DC cheering as a speaker | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
shouted "Hail Trump." The chairman of a committee looking | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
into the collapse of BHS has asked The chairman of Crewe | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
Alexandra football club - has confirmed that it's looking | :05:51. | :05:51. | |
into historic allegations of abuse - It follows the decision | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
by the former Crewe Alexandra player, Andy Woodward, | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
to speak on this programme out about the abuse he suffered | :06:00. | :06:01. | |
at the hands of Barry Bennell, A second man has come | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
forward to say he too had The Crewe chairman, John Bowler, | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
told the BBC's Sports Editor, Dan Roan, that his thoughts | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
were with the victims. We are understandably | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
distressed by the Looking back is there | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
anything you could have When we've done our enquiries | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
and have looked into the detail of various | :06:28. | :06:34. | |
accusations and we have considered them all, then I | :06:35. | :06:40. | |
will be in a position to answer The chairman of a committee looking | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
into the collapse of BHS has asked the pensions regulator | :06:45. | :06:52. | |
whether assets can be seized from its former | :06:53. | :06:53. | |
owner, Sir Philip Green. Labour MP Frank Field has asked | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
whether the BHS pensions hole could be plugged by | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
assets other than cash. Sir Philip's assets include | :06:59. | :07:00. | |
a ?100 million super yacht. Pathology departments in NHS | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
hospitals are struggling to cope with the rising number of cancer | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
patients being sent for tests, Cancer Research UK says record | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
levels of referrals aren't The Government says it's | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
investing in services. Here's our health correspondent | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
Dominic Hughes. Blood tests and biopsies analysed | :07:18. | :07:26. | |
by pathologists are a vital tool in diagnosing cancer, | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
and an early diagnosis is the key But now a major charity is warning | :07:30. | :07:31. | |
that services are struggling to cope We think that the pathology services | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
across the UK are at a tipping point, but wider cancer tests | :07:36. | :07:45. | |
are really struggling, and we have seen that cancer waiting | :07:46. | :07:46. | |
times are getting worse, so we really need action to be taken | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
now to make sure that people get the right tests | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
that they need on time. A growing and ageing population | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
means of rising demand In 2014 there were more than 350,000 | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
new cases for cancer in the UK. Pathology labs have seen demand | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
for tests increase by more than 4% on average and it is not just | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
cancer that is affected. Up to 70% of health decisions | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
in the NHS involves Pathology services at the moment | :08:11. | :08:12. | |
are certainly at full stretch and there is very | :08:13. | :08:21. | |
little capacity left. But I think the real problem is that | :08:22. | :08:22. | |
with the number of people with cancer increasing as we go on, | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
that the demand on pathology So it is vital that we act quickly | :08:27. | :08:28. | |
to make sure that we have got pathologists in place to diagnose | :08:29. | :08:34. | |
those cancers and make sure that patients get the early | :08:35. | :08:36. | |
diagnosis that they need. Across the UK, the NHS is trying | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
to improve the early detection Today's report warns that goal | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
will be missed if pathologists find A police officer has been stabbed | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
while on duty in East London. The man was in plain clothes | :08:48. | :08:59. | |
when he was attacked He's in hospital with non-life | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
threatening injuries. A man's been arrested on suspicion | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
of attempted murder. A 72-year-old woman has been injured | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
in a drive-by shooting in Liverpool. She was standing in the doorway | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
of a house in the Netherley area when she was attacked | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
by a gunman riding a motorbike. Merseyside Police say the woman | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
is in a stable condition in hospital US President Barack Obama has | :09:20. | :09:21. | |
awarded his last Presidential Medals of Freedom to a host of America's | :09:22. | :09:32. | |
most famous faces. The medals are the highest civilian | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
honour in the United States. Among the 21 recipients | :09:36. | :09:38. | |
were Tom Hanks, Robert De Niro, Mr Obama made a special | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
tribute to comedian Ellen DeGeneres for her influence | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
on the gay rights movement. That's a summary of | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
the latest BBC News. Let's get some sport | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
from Leah Boleto. Mixed emotions for British sides | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
in the Champions League last night. Yes, we know that Leicester City are | :10:01. | :10:12. | |
through, but let's start with Spurs. They are out basically. Their dream | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
is over. They needed a draw or a win against Monaco. It ended 1-1 in the | :10:18. | :10:24. | |
first-half. It was in the second half where we got this flurry of | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
goals where it got really exciting. Monaco really dominated the Spurs | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
defence. There wasn't much pressure from them which a lot of fans were | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
really upset. They were outclassed and the moment that Monaco were | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
waiting for. This fantastic cross and then a header. You can't really | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
stop that. It was fantastic. Spurs did try to get back level on this | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
penalty with Harry Kane. But it lasted all of 39 seconds before they | :10:52. | :11:00. | |
were back, Monaco were back on the score sheet and it finished 2-1. | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
England rugby-union coach Eddie Jones has named his side | :11:05. | :11:06. | |
to play Argentina at the weekend, and last week's man | :11:07. | :11:08. | |
Yes, it is a shame. He was man of the match against Fiji and he scored | :11:09. | :11:20. | |
two tries which is really unexpected for him to not play against | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
Argentina. This is the second time that he has been dropped after a | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
test appearance that. One that we will be keeping close eyes across. | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
And, Scotland's women curlers are going well at the European | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
Yes, they beat Germany 8-6 yesterday and they finished high enough in the | :11:35. | :11:47. | |
group to qualify for next year's World Championships. Scotland are | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
ution the yellow balls there. A great run for them and one we will | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
be keeping a very, very close eye on. Cheers, thank you for now. Thank | :11:56. | :11:57. | |
you. Two more footballers have | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
waived their right to anonymity to reveal the abuse they suffered | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
at the hands of a youth coach. The story has emerged | :12:05. | :12:07. | |
following our exclusive interview with former Crewe Alexandra | :12:08. | :12:09. | |
player Andy Woodward, who told us last week he'd been | :12:10. | :12:10. | |
raped hundreds of times by his youth Andy spoke to us again yesterday | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
and said he'd heard from six players who've since told him they too | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
have experienced abuse. I have been inundated with from | :12:19. | :12:34. | |
other players who told me, you know, so many stories that are | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
heartbreaking and I have been so emotional over the last days, but I | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
mean, they are so harrowing stories and they've reached out to me and | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
thanked me so much for coming out originally, you know, it has given | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
that faith. You have spoken to six, but as you say, other contact via | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
Twitter. In total, how many people do you think have got in touch with | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
you since your interview? I think there has been gosh, there is | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
several people that have contacted me - I can't put a number on it | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
really. They vary really in what they have said. Are they all | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
footballers? Yes, they are ex-footballers, yes. Did they say to | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
you that they found the courage to speak out because you had? | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
Absolutely. That's what they have said. Because of what I have said | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
has given them that courage and they belief and that strength to actually | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
come out and say it. Cheshire Police now say they are investigating. Is | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
this the tip of the iceberg, do you think? I've said it all along, it is | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
the tip of the iceberg. However, some people, it is going to take a | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
long time for them to come out or to speak, you know, there is no rush. | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
The police have started their investigation and I don't want to | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
put any pressure on anybody, you know, I came out with it a long view | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
to other people to survive from this and I can't thank the public enough | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
for what they've done, you know, it's brilliant. I can't thank them | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
for their support they're giving me. Andy told us he was disappointed | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
that Crewe hadn't spoken out about the abuse. Since then, the Crewe | :14:15. | :14:22. | |
chairman since 1987 told Dan Roan that an inquiry is underway. | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
Infuriated and very disappointed. , We are distressed. Looking back | :14:30. | :14:44. | |
now, was there anything you could have done at the time to prevent | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
this from happening? When we've done our inquiries and we've looked into | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
the detail of the various accusations, and we've considered | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
them all, then I'll be in a position to answer that kind of question. The | :14:57. | :15:03. | |
message to Mr Woodward finally? I'm very sorry for the distress that he | :15:04. | :15:05. | |
has been caused and wish him well. Steve Walters, who became | :15:06. | :15:08. | |
Crewe's youngest-ever player at the age of 16, | :15:09. | :15:09. | |
says he too was abused He told the Guardian, | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
"All these years I've had But I want closure, and I know this | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
move will help me move on." The Daily Mirror devotes its first | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
five pages to claims by the former Spurs and England star Paul Stewart | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
that a different coach abused him every day for four years, | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
until he was 15. He says his attacker got away | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
with it by threatening to kill his relatives | :15:40. | :15:41. | |
if he ever told anyone. He blames the abuse for drink | :15:42. | :15:43. | |
and drug problems He asked if I wanted | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
to drive the car. It started from touching and then | :15:47. | :16:05. | |
developed more and more into sexual abuse and the threats of violence | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
towards your family. If you were to breathe | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
a word to anybody. He said he was going | :16:18. | :16:24. | |
to kill your brothers? Of course all those years up | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
were playing at the top level, Paul Gascoigne and these | :16:28. | :16:43. | |
enormous household names, John Barnes, even as you were enjoying | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
great success, you were dealing with it and having suicidal | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
thoughts as a result? In football there are | :16:52. | :16:53. | |
lots of highs and lows, which you deal with as part | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
of the game, and I dealt with this It took me some years | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
to speak to my family about I struggled and still struggle | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
to this day with the I'm lucky that I have | :17:08. | :17:16. | |
a strong family. Because I don't really know | :17:17. | :17:27. | |
if I would have been The most difficult thing | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
is the fact I was unable to deal with the emotions and I still | :17:32. | :17:49. | |
struggle with that today. I don't feel it's | :17:50. | :17:51. | |
fair on them but I'm They always say it's just Dad, | :17:52. | :18:00. | |
but at least with this story they may be able to understand | :18:01. | :18:06. | |
as well some of the repercussions of | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
what happened and why I've been how I've been | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
and how I am with them, I haven't spoken of this in-depth | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
as much as I've spoken to Since Friday the emotions have been | :18:20. | :18:26. | |
like a roller-coaster. I don't know, moving forward, | :18:27. | :18:34. | |
whether it is going to be a help to me or not, | :18:35. | :18:43. | |
but one thing for sure was that I knew I had to tell my story | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
and the truth about what happened And hope it will either prevent | :18:47. | :18:54. | |
anybody else trying to do this and also if it is just one person | :18:55. | :19:05. | |
or six, seven or eight people come forward and it happened to them | :19:06. | :19:17. | |
and it helps them, I believe it And it's worth pointing out that | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
despite that message in the top left of the video, | :19:21. | :19:23. | |
the Mirror did give us permission to use that interview, | :19:24. | :19:26. | |
and Paul Stewart had waived his right to | :19:27. | :19:28. | |
anonymity to speak to them. Later in the programme we'll hear | :19:29. | :19:30. | |
from abuse charities about the impact players | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
speaking out has had. Darren Lineker has tweeted, I wish | :19:34. | :19:41. | |
Paul Stewart all the very best, extremely courageous in telling his | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
appalling story. This morning, in an exclusive | :19:45. | :19:47. | |
interview, the husband of a schoolteacher who was murdered | :19:48. | :19:49. | |
by a pupil in her classroom in April 2014 says he thinks it's possible | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
that lives could still be at risk in British schools until we know | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
all the facts of the circumstances William Cornick was sentenced | :19:57. | :19:58. | |
to spend a minimum 20 years in prison after pleading guilty | :19:59. | :20:04. | |
to murdering his Spanish teacher Ann Maguire | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
when he was 15 years old. It was revealed that he had | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
expressed his hatred of his teacher and his desire to kill her and other | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
teachers on social media and in person to other youngsters | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
on several occasions in the five She was just always a teacher | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
you could approach, even if you weren't with her, | :20:23. | :20:44. | |
she always made herself To pay my respects to somebody | :20:45. | :20:46. | |
who is truly amazing, she deserves every kind of respect | :20:47. | :20:54. | |
anyone can give her. It wasn't like finding | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
out a teacher had died, it was like finding out | :21:00. | :21:01. | |
a relative had died. No amount of punishment can ever | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
compensate for the loss of Ann's life, no amount of punishment can | :21:05. | :21:27. | |
compensate the family for what we've lost in our beautiful, selfless, | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
caring and compassionate sister, Speaking exclusively | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
in his first in-depth interview, Ann Maguire's husband | :21:37. | :22:01. | |
Don Maguire is here. Tell us a bit about your wife, | :22:02. | :22:10. | |
and what she was like? She was the nicest person you could | :22:11. | :22:22. | |
imagine, she was very special. She was very caring, cheerful person. | :22:23. | :22:29. | |
She lightened the mood wherever she went. She was very much a people | :22:30. | :22:45. | |
person. She spent her life sorting people's problems out and making | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
them feel better. She had the power to change, to transform and, for | :22:51. | :22:58. | |
some people, including myself, be life changing. What did you think of | :22:59. | :23:05. | |
the review into her death, which concluded that nothing could have | :23:06. | :23:13. | |
been done to prevent it? I think the fact that she was such a special | :23:14. | :23:21. | |
person is part of the problem, in that it is so hard to understand. | :23:22. | :23:33. | |
For this to happen to Ann at this school has always been of great | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
puzzlement. The review was very disappointing. It is a massively | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
missed opportunity to really learn lessons. The review did not talk to | :23:46. | :23:59. | |
pupils who had spoken to William Cornick, and the reason why, it said | :24:00. | :24:06. | |
it thought it was unnecessary, it would have been traumatic for the | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
youngsters and would have been counter-productive. Do you | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
understand that? Did you think they made the right decision? Terms like | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
unnecessary and counter-productive, I think that statement is a little | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
bit emotive and unfounded. We are speaking about a learning | :24:24. | :24:34. | |
lessons review that has been based on the premise that no pupil was | :24:35. | :24:41. | |
harmed physically or psychologically. I have to take it | :24:42. | :24:48. | |
from that that trauma is not of a particular problem, and the idea | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
that a group of people are all equally traumatised and maybe for | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
some of them it would be beneficial to actually have the opportunity to | :24:59. | :25:06. | |
discuss the details. Not just that pupils were aware of what he had | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
posted on social media, but actually on the morning of him killing your | :25:12. | :25:18. | |
wife he had shown those nights to other pupils. Yes. | :25:19. | :25:30. | |
The review makes the point that William Cornick was not known to the | :25:31. | :25:40. | |
police or two agencies or two people in authority. When they were doing | :25:41. | :25:47. | |
the review into him. But really, this was a boy who had made threats | :25:48. | :25:54. | |
continuously over months and maybe years, who carried a knife, who | :25:55. | :26:03. | |
carried a weapon on a regular basis. The police and agencies and those in | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
authority should have known about this boy. | :26:07. | :26:14. | |
Back to the police, more importantly is that this school had a permanent | :26:15. | :26:24. | |
police presence for five or six years. If William Cornick's friends | :26:25. | :26:33. | |
or peers don't tell adults, he has got a knife, how can they know? | :26:34. | :26:40. | |
A teacher's job is of knowing what is going on in their domain. They | :26:41. | :26:54. | |
should know in the normal course of events. But he was doing it in a | :26:55. | :27:04. | |
very continuously open way. It must have been part of the information | :27:05. | :27:13. | |
out there. You are asking me, why didn't anybody here this? I don't | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
know. Is that not the job of the review and the authorities to look | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
into deeply and properly? You say it is a missed opportunity, the review. | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
What do you want to see in the future? I have seen Leeds City | :27:29. | :27:40. | |
Council, the leader and the Chief Executive, and expressed the view | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
that in my opinion this was a hugely missed opportunity on a national | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
level. This is the first case of his side, -- of its type, it is similar | :27:49. | :27:56. | |
to some American cases. This was a disaffected youth with an agenda, it | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
was premeditated and planned. We have a duty as a nation to find out | :28:03. | :28:09. | |
as much as we possibly can, because it is only then that we know we have | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
learned the lessons. I think it needs to be looked at from a | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
national governmental point of view, and there should have been a full | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
enquiry ordered into this incident in the first place. Until that | :28:24. | :28:34. | |
happens, do you feel that teachers, perhaps pupils, their lives are at | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
risk? Ann was not safe on that day in a school. | :28:42. | :28:49. | |
So how one could say that schools are safe now, we have had the court | :28:50. | :28:59. | |
proceedings, the judge's summing up, this learning lessons review, we | :29:00. | :29:08. | |
have been to the coroner, and he has agreed to reopen it, but only on | :29:09. | :29:15. | |
Monday a different coroner has reduced the scope and the areas of | :29:16. | :29:25. | |
William Cornick of the inquest. -- the areas of inquiry. He has | :29:26. | :29:31. | |
downgraded its likely. We are not going to look at the areas that hold | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
most information and the possibility of most learning. The Department for | :29:36. | :29:42. | |
Education say they can't make a decision about whether enquiries are | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
necessary until the coroner has reached his or her seclusion. We met | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
with Nicky Morgan last year. The former Education Secretary. It was | :29:52. | :30:00. | |
the same point then. I did stress as best I could at the time that this | :30:01. | :30:08. | |
was an inappropriate review. And there were certain worrying aspect | :30:09. | :30:11. | |
about the organisation and the process being carried out. She | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
ignored all of those. She was determined to wait for this. The | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
fact that it is such a disappointing review and it is simply wasting | :30:22. | :30:31. | |
another two years, and now, the coroner's inquest seems to have been | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
downgraded slightly, we really do need somebody on this day to be | :30:37. | :30:43. | |
brave and say, let's look at this properly. Let's not leave anything | :30:44. | :30:50. | |
on checked -- on checked that we can learn from this. It should not have | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
happened, and you have to try to guarantee it never happens again. | :30:55. | :31:04. | |
After undercover policeman Mark Kennedy admitted he'd | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
had sexual relationships with women while undercover - | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
An inquiry was set-up to investigate the practise. There are claims it | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
has been deliberately obstructed by the Metropolitan Police. We'll bring | :31:23. | :31:23. | |
you the details. And two more players come forward | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
following our exclusive interview with former footballer Andy Woodward | :31:28. | :31:30. | |
about abuse he suffered Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom | :31:31. | :31:32. | |
with a summary of today's news. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, | :31:33. | :31:42. | |
is expected to announce plans to build more affordable homes, | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
increase the National Living Wage and ban letting agent fees | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
in England, when he makes his first In his first major economic | :31:51. | :31:52. | |
statement since the Brexit vote, Mr Hammond is expected to balance | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
bleak news on growth and borrowing with announcements on housing | :31:57. | :31:59. | |
investment and boosts Labour says the statement is likely | :32:00. | :32:01. | |
to be "too little, too late" The chairman of Crewe Alexandra | :32:02. | :32:10. | |
football club has confirmed that it's looking into historic | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
allegations of abuse involving Former Crewe Alexandra player | :32:16. | :32:17. | |
Andy Woodward told us last week in an exclusive interview that he'd | :32:18. | :32:23. | |
been raped hundreds of times by his youth coach Barry Bennell, | :32:24. | :32:26. | |
who was jailed in 1998. A second man has come forward to say | :32:27. | :32:28. | |
he too had been abused by Bennell. The chairman of a committee looking | :32:29. | :32:39. | |
into the collapse of BHS has asked the Pensions Regulator | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
whether assets can be seized from its former | :32:43. | :32:44. | |
owner, Sir Philip Green. Labour MP Frank Field has asked | :32:45. | :32:46. | |
whether the BHS pensions hole could be plugged by assets | :32:47. | :32:48. | |
other than cash. Sir Philip's assets include | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
a ?100 million super yacht. Pathology departments in NHS | :32:52. | :33:00. | |
hospitals are struggling to cope with rising requests for cancer | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
tests, according a new report. Cancer Research UK says record | :33:04. | :33:05. | |
levels of referrals aren't The Government says it's | :33:06. | :33:07. | |
investing in services. A 72 year-old woman | :33:08. | :33:15. | |
from Liverpool is being treated in hospital after being shot | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
in the leg last night. She was attacked as she stood | :33:19. | :33:20. | |
in the doorway of a house in the Netherley area by two men | :33:21. | :33:23. | |
on a motorbike. Scotland's Transport Minister | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
will make an emergency statement in Holyrood today, | :33:30. | :33:30. | |
after mounting criticism Dutch firm, Abellio, took over | :33:31. | :33:32. | |
the ScotRail franchise last year in a ten-year deal | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
worth up to ?6 billion, but ministers say it needs | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
to improve its punctuality and reliability or face | :33:42. | :33:43. | |
losing the contract. That's a summary of | :33:44. | :33:51. | |
the latest BBC News. Let's get some sport | :33:52. | :33:53. | |
from Leah Boleto. Spurs wake up this morning | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
knowing their run in They lost 2-1 to Monaco | :33:59. | :34:10. | |
with all the goals coming in the first five minutes | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
of the second half. Harry Kane's penalty wasn't enough | :34:15. | :34:16. | |
but they can still secure thrid place and a spot | :34:17. | :34:18. | |
in the Europa League with a draw Leicester City made history though | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
last night making the knockout This opening goal from Okazaki | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
setting them off for a win final Despite a man of the match | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
performance and two tries against Fiji at the weekend, | :34:31. | :34:39. | |
Semesa Rokoduguni has been left out of the England's squad to play | :34:40. | :34:41. | |
Argentina on Saturday. And Scotland's women's curlers | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
have qualified for next They won their six round robin | :34:46. | :34:47. | |
matches yesterday at the European It was a bad day for the Scottish | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
men though as they lost to both That's all from me for now. | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
I'll be back just after 10am. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, | :34:57. | :35:04. | |
is expected to announce plans to build more affordable homes, | :35:05. | :35:06. | |
increase the National Living Wage and ban letting agent fees | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
in England when he makes his first Autumn Statement or mini | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
Budget later today. Our political guru Norman Smith can | :35:14. | :35:14. | |
tell us more. Thank you very much. What I think I | :35:15. | :35:25. | |
can tell you, it is not going to be a thriller in Manila! It is not | :35:26. | :35:30. | |
going to be a big bonanza giveaway. Why? Well, there ain't no cash, but | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
Philip Hammond is a cautious sort of politician. He is referred to the at | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
Westminster as box office Phil. A reference to the fact that he is not | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
showbizy. So what we can expect from box office Phil? Well, I think we | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
will get a benefits boost so he will ease the pain of cuts to universal | :35:50. | :35:56. | |
credits. There be road relief. ?1 billion more cash to each the pinch | :35:57. | :36:00. | |
points that make the daily commute a horror story and I think we might | :36:01. | :36:07. | |
also get a bit of hi-tech help. ?2 billion more for go ahead companies | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
in robotics and biotechnology, but it won't be a big rabbit out of the | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
hat moment which is in contrast to most Autumn Statements and Budgets. | :36:17. | :36:19. | |
Let's look at some of in recent years. | :36:20. | :36:29. | |
We shall continue to widen the band. We will make our progress towards | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
our objective, a 20 pence basic rate of tax for everyone. | :36:35. | :36:45. | |
We're going to get borrowing to fall zero. Inflation below 2.5% and a 20% | :36:46. | :36:51. | |
basic rate of income tax. This Budget puts us on a path to meet all | :36:52. | :36:58. | |
those goals and I commend, Mr Chairman, this Budget to the House. | :36:59. | :37:06. | |
The winter fuel payment, the universal payment, tax-free to all | :37:07. | :37:12. | |
pensioner households will be this ?200, and the year after that and | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
every single year of this Parliament. The new national Living | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
Wage will be compulsory. Working people aged 25 and over will receive | :37:20. | :37:25. | |
it. It will start next April at the rate of ?7.20. The Low Pay | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
Commission will recommend future rises and achieve the Government's | :37:30. | :37:41. | |
objective of reaching... Why is there going to be no pizzazz from | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
Philip Hammond? Well, he is warning of perhaps ?100 billion more | :37:48. | :37:53. | |
borrowing. His great fear, a big Brexit black hole. That might mean | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
no end to austerity any time soon. Could drag on well into the 2020s. | :37:59. | :38:06. | |
No tax giveaway. Nice cuts to income tax or VAT, that's off the agenda | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
and no extra cash for the NHS at a time when we know many, many | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
hospitals have been plunged into deficit. You think I'm being gloomy? | :38:16. | :38:19. | |
Well, have a listen to Philip Hammond a few days ago. | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
We have to maintain our credibility, we have an eye wateringly large | :38:23. | :38:25. | |
debt, we still have a significant deficit in this country and we have | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
to prepare the economy for the period that lies ahead, I | :38:31. | :38:36. | |
want to make sure the economy is watertight, that we have enough | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
headroom to deal with any unexpected challenges | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
However, there will be some winners. The people who Theresa May has | :38:43. | :38:56. | |
identified as just getting by. Those who are very often on Universal | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
Credit because the signs are, Mr Hammond is going to ease some of the | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
cuts that have been pencilled in by George Osborne which could mean | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
there could be between ?250 and ?500 a year better off, but still that is | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
fairly limited given the scale of cuts still to be imposed on those | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
who receive universal credits. ?4 billion worth pencilled in by the | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
last chancellor. Only around ?500 million being handed become bay this | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
chancellor. Let's talk a bit more about those | :39:31. | :39:49. | |
universal credit changes. Earlier we spoke to two Conservative | :39:50. | :39:53. | |
MPs who've been vocal crisis of the Government over | :39:54. | :39:58. | |
universal credit cuts - Iain Duncan Smith, a former work | :39:59. | :40:00. | |
and pensions secretary who introduced the Universal Credit | :40:01. | :40:02. | |
system and later resigned due to the Government's benefit cuts, | :40:03. | :40:10. | |
and Conservative MP Heidi Allen. There is two elements. One is as you | :40:11. | :40:20. | |
cross into work it has the work allowance which is like a tax | :40:21. | :40:23. | |
allowance. Which means you retain a certain amount of your benefit, | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
depending on whether you're disabled or whether you're a lone parent. At | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
that point then it is tapered away as you go up the hours. So it keeps | :40:32. | :40:35. | |
it simple. It allows you to adjust for individuals and the taper is the | :40:36. | :40:38. | |
same for all of those benefits within it. Whereas the moment you | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
can have withdrawal rates of 95 pence in the pound and 70 pence, at | :40:44. | :40:50. | |
the moment it is 65 and the Government is talking about reducing | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
it to 63 pence. Those two elements mean it makes it simpler, it is easy | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
to understand and it is automatic in the sense that you don't have to | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
keep reporting the changes in your salary, that's done automatically | :41:03. | :41:04. | |
through the system and that should take some of the stress out of that | :41:05. | :41:07. | |
process. We are expecting the new chancellor, Philip Hammond, to allow | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
people who are on Universal Credit to be able to keep more of their | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
benefits while in work. Effectively to reverse changes that Mr Osborne, | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
the previous incumbent brought in, do you support that? I do. I have | :41:21. | :41:27. | |
campaigned to put that money back into Universal Credit because the | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
thing about Universal Credit is it actually saves the ex-chordor money. | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
They end up being into the tax bracket earlier and they pay tax, | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
but they are in a better position and so they are more stable in work | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
and therefore, taking the money out is counter productive. So one of the | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
reasons I resigned from the Government and I felt it was the | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
wrong thing to do, so this is really a down payment. It is about a third | :41:53. | :41:55. | |
of the money that was taken out, going back in. It is a start. It is | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
not everything. I'll continue to campaign to complete that process of | :42:02. | :42:04. | |
investing in Universal Credit because it has the dynamic and right | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
effect on changing lives in the right way. Heidi, is this a watering | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
down of the austerity drive from the Conservative Government? It is. I | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
think it is a reflection of the life is at the minute. It has been | :42:16. | :42:18. | |
bumpier and more difficult to get out of the economic crisis, perhaps | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
than people realised. The way I've always looked at it because | :42:23. | :42:25. | |
Universal Credit, it's the people that run the engine of this country, | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
you know, it is the shopworkers, it is the teaching assistants and the | :42:30. | :42:31. | |
people on modest incomes, you need to keep them in work. If they don't | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
want to go into work, the whole economy stops turning. For me, it is | :42:36. | :42:43. | |
a slight watering down. It is a welcome one as Iain says it is the | :42:44. | :42:46. | |
beginning. But it doesn't reverse all the cuts. See how the economy | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
plays out and whether we need to look at that again. There is a | :42:52. | :42:54. | |
deficit, it is around ?63 billion. Why is it the right time to water | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
down the austerity drive? Because if these people don't stay in work and | :43:00. | :43:01. | |
don't increase their work, they don't start putting taxes into the | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
system. It is a snowball effect. You have to have everybody working and | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
contributing to an economy and if they stop working then the whole | :43:10. | :43:16. | |
thing slows down. Let me introduce Katie. Kate has two jobs. She has | :43:17. | :43:23. | |
been receiving ?200 to ?300 in universal credits until Monday. What | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
happened on Monday? They looked at the earnings that I had rather than | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
the hours that I had and said that I'm basically over the bracket to | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
claim any sort of benefits anymore. So they say you're earning too much | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
to get Universal Credit now? Yeah, that's right. Can you afford to live | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
on the wages that you get from your two jobs? I can afford to live at | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
the moment I can pay my rent and pay for food stuff. I can't save for | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
anything. I don't have any money to save. Right. What happened in terms | :43:53. | :44:00. | |
of the principle of keeping more of your Universal Credit? I think that, | :44:01. | :44:06. | |
you know, I understand that I have two jobs. A lot of people still | :44:07. | :44:12. | |
struggle to find employment. But on the basis of not letting me know | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
that my credit would just be cut on the day that I expected some money | :44:18. | :44:24. | |
coming, it was quite a shock. Does it incentivise you to do more hours? | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
Yes, I will always try to do more hours. I will always take on extra | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
shifts if they offer me, but it is hard to increase hours when you are | :44:34. | :44:40. | |
on a certainly hourly wage per week. Victoria, you are on Universal | :44:41. | :44:45. | |
Credit. Is it working for you? It feels very restricted. It feels my | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
options to going back to work and college what's the word? They are | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
very... Limited. Yeah, they are very leplted, sorry. Like Katie was just | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
saying, she is working two jobs. She is just had her's cut on Monday | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
because you know, she is earning so much and that's the same problem as | :45:06. | :45:12. | |
I'm having. I'm going to go to apply for jobs, and I'm finding out that I | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
can only earn up to ?160 a month so I have been limited to 16 hours, 20 | :45:18. | :45:20. | |
hours. That is an issue. Yes. It is | :45:21. | :45:30. | |
difficult to know exactly what the circumstances are, but I think the | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
issue around the point at which you break free of the benefits system is | :45:35. | :45:37. | |
where we are, the benefit is tapering at until you are of it. | :45:38. | :45:44. | |
There is another element which is beyond Universal Credit, the rise in | :45:45. | :45:47. | |
the national living wage. The Government is committed to getting | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
that up to ?9 and hour, which comes up from below ?6 an hour when we | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
first came in, which will have a genetic effect, it will affect those | :45:56. | :46:00. | |
moving off Universal Credit, their incomes will rise faster as a | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
result. There is another positive. There is a reality, you are not | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
meant to stay on benefits forever, there is a point where you break | :46:10. | :46:13. | |
free, that is a positive thing, and I am pleased to see people want to | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
work more hours. With regards the issues around incentivising due to | :46:19. | :46:21. | |
go on, Universal Credit has a greater incentive, to hit people to | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
work more hours, because it is easy to understand and automatic. If | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
either of them are having an issue, they need to talk to the job centre | :46:31. | :46:36. | |
adviser, who now stays with them all the way through those hours, to | :46:37. | :46:40. | |
check that the calculations that are being made are correct, and they | :46:41. | :46:46. | |
have everything they are due. You are shaking your head. It says it is | :46:47. | :46:53. | |
to help and it is catered to as, but it is the opposite, it is robotic, | :46:54. | :47:00. | |
it is not catered to the person. Each person has different needs, | :47:01. | :47:03. | |
whether it is a single mother, but it is somebody who is a carer for a | :47:04. | :47:10. | |
parent, somebody who works part-time, all the same rules for | :47:11. | :47:14. | |
everybody, you are only allowed to add up to a certain amount. Where is | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
the incentive to go back to work if, as soon as you and that amount, it | :47:19. | :47:26. | |
is deducted? There is no earning anymore or getting a better career, | :47:27. | :47:32. | |
because it is stopped at ?160. You are talking about the work allowance | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
that allows you to own a certain amount of money before it starts | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
getting taken away. You may not have had this experience, but under the | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
existing system which Universal Credit replaces, you did not have | :47:45. | :47:47. | |
the same level of allowance inside tax credits. He would have been | :47:48. | :47:52. | |
locked to only 16 hours of work, because you would lose so much after | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
that. The point is you will not lose at any faster rate. Each category of | :47:58. | :48:05. | |
person, they have different amounts of money they can earn before that | :48:06. | :48:08. | |
is taken away, reflecting their own condition. A person in work would be | :48:09. | :48:15. | |
better off under this system than under tax credits. The Chancellor is | :48:16. | :48:23. | |
also expected to raise again, or bring forward the raising of the | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
threshold at which people will stop paying tax. That will help | :48:28. | :48:34. | |
everybody. What he was arguing for, and he was right, was rather found | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
those funds held in the tax allowance, we could pump it into | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
Universal Credit, but we have both, the raising of the threshold will be | :48:45. | :48:48. | |
for everybody. We have put in ?1 billion to help young ladies like | :48:49. | :48:52. | |
those we have talked to this morning. We have to bite of the | :48:53. | :48:57. | |
cherry, plus the national minimum wage going up. We are realistic | :48:58. | :49:01. | |
about the economy. Well done to Katie, two jobs, fantastic, she | :49:02. | :49:06. | |
knows she can pay her rent, but the Government is not there to pay your | :49:07. | :49:11. | |
savings for you. Good luck to both of them. But it is working through | :49:12. | :49:14. | |
the transition. Universal Credit will support them. Gifting them | :49:15. | :49:20. | |
slowly off the benefit they get more hours, and 20 wage goes up they | :49:21. | :49:29. | |
should feel the benefit. Coverage of the Autumn Statement | :49:30. | :49:32. | |
from 11:30am on BBC News. Thank you for your e-mails about the | :49:33. | :49:37. | |
safety of teachers in schools, after our interview with the husband of | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
Ann Maguire, killed in her classroom by one of her pupils. Tim says, I | :49:42. | :49:48. | |
was a teacher, working in design and technology, I was threatened by a | :49:49. | :49:51. | |
year 11 student with a Stanley knife who wanted to attack me. When it was | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
reported, nothing happened. When I left teaching, I was told it was my | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
responsibility to report the incident to the police. Later, the | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
police called me to say the boy was sorry and it was only a joke. I have | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
not fought since. Until there is zero tolerance, the type of incident | :50:11. | :50:14. | |
you are covering will always happen. Jeff says, it is only a matter of | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
time before it happens again. My niece was a teacher where children | :50:20. | :50:23. | |
carried knives and guns, she has since left because of our concerns. | :50:24. | :50:27. | |
Christine says, my daughter used to work in a junior school in London, | :50:28. | :50:31. | |
one day a parent walked into the classroom, picked up a chair, raised | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
it above his head and when to bring it down on her head. Her legs gave | :50:36. | :50:41. | |
way and she fell to the floor. Thank you for those. You can e-mail us. | :50:42. | :50:47. | |
You can message is on Twitter, using the hashtag, or there is always | :50:48. | :50:49. | |
Facebook. On this programme we've spent a lot | :50:50. | :50:51. | |
of time reporting on the work Many of you have expressed | :50:52. | :50:54. | |
surprise over the way some undercover cops had behaved | :50:55. | :50:57. | |
when they were investigating organisations and protesters | :50:58. | :50:59. | |
who might be threatening our In some cases police officers | :51:00. | :51:01. | |
had slept with women, We spoke exclusively to former | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
undercover cop Mark Kennedy, who'd spent seven years undercover | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
infiltrating protest groups. During that time he had more | :51:11. | :51:13. | |
than one sexual relationship The person I was in love with wasn't | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
really involved with situations where I needed to pass | :51:17. | :51:25. | |
intelligence about her. But if you needed to, | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
would you have done it? Would your loyalty have been | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
to the police or her? In those circumstances | :51:35. | :51:45. | |
I wouldn't have done that. Yes, you could say that, but I think | :51:46. | :51:47. | |
I was in a position where... She was a person that was very | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
independent and still is, I'm sure, and she is a person who would make | :51:53. | :51:55. | |
up her own mind and decisions about what she wanted to do, | :51:56. | :51:58. | |
and I totally respected that. If she did something | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
and she was arrested for it, that is very much her | :52:03. | :52:04. | |
way of doing things, and if that is what she wanted | :52:05. | :52:08. | |
to do, then she has to stand Some campaigners said that | :52:09. | :52:11. | |
by having this relationship, by sleeping with this | :52:12. | :52:21. | |
woman, they described it as state-sanctioned abuse, | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
as this woman could not give her informed consent to sleeping | :52:25. | :52:28. | |
with you because she didn't know Well, that is certainly something | :52:29. | :52:31. | |
that is being addressed by eight women who claim to have | :52:32. | :52:38. | |
had relationships with How do you feel about being accused | :52:39. | :52:40. | |
of state-sectioned abuse? I know the relationship we had, | :52:41. | :52:47. | |
it was one of the most I was lying about my name, | :52:48. | :52:54. | |
who I was, yes, and it is very difficult to know that she has been | :52:55. | :53:02. | |
hurt and she's terribly upset about that, and it's something | :53:03. | :53:07. | |
which I'm still finding very difficult to deal with, | :53:08. | :53:12. | |
and will for a long time to come. All I do know is that what we shared | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
and how we shared our lives for four and a half, five years, | :53:19. | :53:23. | |
was an amazing time in the sense that we both supported each other | :53:24. | :53:28. | |
through some very difficult times It is just very sad that the way | :53:29. | :53:31. | |
and how we fell in love happened As a result of the actions of | :53:32. | :53:40. | |
undercover cops like Mark Kennedy, an inquiry was set up, | :53:41. | :53:48. | |
and is due to report by 2018. But one of the women | :53:49. | :53:51. | |
who was in a long relationship with a man who didn't | :53:52. | :53:53. | |
tell her he was a police officer says the inquiry | :53:54. | :53:56. | |
is being deliberately That woman is called Lisa, not her | :53:57. | :54:07. | |
real name, she was in a relationship with Mark Kennedy, who you have just | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
seen, for six years. Also joining us is a formal Chief Constable from | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
Thames Valley Police. What has happened since two apology from the | :54:17. | :54:20. | |
Met? It has been almost a year to the day since we had that apology | :54:21. | :54:28. | |
made in public by the Met Police. Despite saying they are sorry, it | :54:29. | :54:33. | |
has not resulted in any disclosure of information about what happened | :54:34. | :54:39. | |
to us. Any victim of abuse will tell you that it is knowing what has | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
happened, that is as important as being told that the people | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
responsible are sorry. Until we get full answers about exactly what | :54:49. | :54:55. | |
happened to us, will be targeted, how we were targeted, where we | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
listened to, what information was gathered on us, until we get close | :55:00. | :55:03. | |
to those answers, we will not be able to put this behind us. Has | :55:04. | :55:06. | |
anybody been called to give evidence to this? No, nobody has given | :55:07. | :55:12. | |
evidence yet, they have not started taking evidence. They have said they | :55:13. | :55:17. | |
are almost ready, but even though it has been going on for 16 months, it | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
has just bogged down in application after application, starting with the | :55:23. | :55:28. | |
police applying to have the whole inquiry heard in secret, and every | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
time there is an these times -- these things take time to be | :55:33. | :55:38. | |
responded to. It is a painstakingly slow process. If that is why you say | :55:39. | :55:42. | |
they are deliberately obstructing it, because they are applying for | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
officers' identities to be kept secret? Yes, the attitude of the | :55:48. | :55:53. | |
police ever since I first confronted my ex-partner Mark Kennedy back in | :55:54. | :56:06. | |
2010, this political policing, these undercover scrutiny of protest | :56:07. | :56:09. | |
movement came to light, ever since they have been deliberately | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
obstructive. As part of our court case, which took five years to come | :56:14. | :56:17. | |
to justice, they fought us on every single point, every single step of | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
the way. That apology which came five years after we initiated the | :56:23. | :56:29. | |
action was really hard one. It was almost like getting blood out of a | :56:30. | :56:32. | |
stone. We are still no further to getting any answers. Everything that | :56:33. | :56:38. | |
the police are doing mirrors how they have acted in other enquiries, | :56:39. | :56:43. | |
for example Hillsborough, which took 20 years to get anywhere near the | :56:44. | :56:48. | |
truth. It is obvious to all of us involved that the police, their | :56:49. | :56:51. | |
prime concern is protecting themselves and their institutions. | :56:52. | :57:01. | |
John Humphrys knighted bit this morning. But you have my name wrong. | :57:02. | :57:12. | |
Is it right that the Met Police apply for their offices' identities | :57:13. | :57:22. | |
to be obscured? I can understand why they are doing it, but the principle | :57:23. | :57:28. | |
is often not confirming or denying, it is not admitting anything that is | :57:29. | :57:30. | |
going on in undercover, because it poses threats. But I have | :57:31. | :57:35. | |
considerable sympathy with Lisa's position. The police have got to | :57:36. | :57:39. | |
come off the fence and make their mind up about some of the core | :57:40. | :57:46. | |
issues, and be a lot more open about what has gone on in order to be able | :57:47. | :57:51. | |
to move on and put undercover policing on a more accountable | :57:52. | :57:57. | |
footing. They continue to say neither confirm or deny at every | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
turn. We will never get any justice. They still say they will neither | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
confirm nor deny the identity of the police officers for whose actions | :58:07. | :58:12. | |
they have already apologised. The two police officers that were part | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
of our case, the Met Police have apologised to the women who had | :58:17. | :58:18. | |
relationships with them, that they are still refusing to disclose their | :58:19. | :58:26. | |
names to the enquiry. On that point, if I may interrupt, in the past the | :58:27. | :58:31. | |
Met Police's barristers have said, undercover police officers and their | :58:32. | :58:35. | |
families are likely to face real harm if anything is disclosed that | :58:36. | :58:38. | |
tends to identify them, and will suffer the unfairness of losing a | :58:39. | :58:41. | |
lifelong expectation that their roles would not be made public. Is | :58:42. | :58:48. | |
that not made enough -- fair in of? It is fair enough to protect the | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
families who have been dragged into this, it was a policy that police | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
officers had to be married before they went undercover, and that shows | :58:56. | :58:59. | |
utter disregard for a whole other set of women and children. So you | :59:00. | :59:05. | |
agree? I agree that some level of protection needs to happen for those | :59:06. | :59:12. | |
families. But if you are still saying neither confirm nor deny for | :59:13. | :59:16. | |
people whose identity has been in the public domain for years, | :59:17. | :59:20. | |
absolutely everybody knows who those officers are, and no harm has come | :59:21. | :59:26. | |
as yet to those officers, people have been... Since 2010 there has | :59:27. | :59:32. | |
been revelation after revelation, and at the moment the inquiry are | :59:33. | :59:38. | |
relying on the victims of the abuse to bring it to light. The thing has | :59:39. | :59:42. | |
come for the police. How do we speed up this inquiry? It definitely needs | :59:43. | :59:51. | |
to be speeded up. It is doing nobody any good for this to be dragging on. | :59:52. | :59:57. | |
The Home Office has under resourced it, because the first obstacle that | :59:58. | :00:02. | |
needs to be overcome is helping Sir Chris Pitchford to make the right | :00:03. | :00:05. | |
judgment on the restriction orders. He will put restriction orders on so | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
that the stuff that relates to serious as and the heavy end of | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
undercover, have to be kept under wraps. He has got to find their way | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
to bring case-by-case in, the type of cases that have caused serious | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
public concern, in a way that does not disclose tech makes or pose a | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
threat to the officers and their families, and also does not imperil | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
current or future operations that are going on, which may be | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
connected. That is the difficulty of the balance, that it needs to be | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
resourced properly to get this done quickly so we can move to the next | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
stage and reach the final stage, where he is supposed to set a | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
framework for undercover for the future. | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
Let me bring you this news. A plain clothed police officer has been | :00:55. | :01:02. | |
stabbed in East London. It happened last night say Scotland Yard, a | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
group of three boys and one girl in their late teens stabbed this | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
officer. The officer is in a non-life threatening condition | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
according to Scotland Yard. A group of three boys and one girl stabbed a | :01:15. | :01:20. | |
plain clothed police officer last night according to Scotland Yard. | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
The officer's condition is not life threatening. | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
We have got the weather. Hello Carol. | :01:31. | :01:40. | |
How are you? Very well, thank you. How are you? I'm all right, but it's | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
freezing. Look at this view. One of our Weather Watchers sent us this. | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
How stunning is that? Beautiful. I'm going too show you different kinds | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
of weather. We had a lot of fog across parts of southern and | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
south-eastern England. Here is another one as well. Look at the | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
snow. We this is what fell yesterday on the hills! This is a good one of | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
Durham where it was cold this morning. Oh, my goodness wait until | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
you see the temperatures! Staffordshire, more cloud here. So I | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
have been telling you about the temperatures. This is what it's like | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
at the moment. It is still minus six Celsius in Braemar. Minus six | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
Celsius is pretty cold. In London it is plus seven Celsius. So when we | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
came in, it was lower than that too. Guess what? It is going to get | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
colder tonight! Get your central heating on! What we | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
have this morning is a real mixture of weather. We've got a weather | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
front coming in from the South East. That's producing some rain as it | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
comes across Kent and it will move in across East Anglia, heading down | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
towards the Isle of Wight. High pressure firmly in charge in the | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
north means clearer skies. We had them by night hence the low | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
temperatures Victoria and I have been discussing, but it means a lot | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
of isn't shine for Scotland and Northern Ireland and northern | :03:04. | :03:05. | |
England and that sunshine just pushing further south through the | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
course of the day. Elsewhere, we've got the thicker cloud. We've got | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
splashes of rain and we're looking at still the odd spot of fog that | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
might just hang around. So into the afternoon, lots of sunshine across | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
Scotland. These are the maximum temperatures, two Celsius in Glasgow | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
and Edinburgh. Belfast, lots of sunshine for you. A maximum of seven | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
Celsius. For Northern England, not as cold, a maximum temperature of | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
nine Celsius. Then we run into the cloud. There will be some rain | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
coming out of the cloud, but it will be fairly light and patchy. As we | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
drift across Wales and into south-west England, again, there | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
will be areas of cloud, some bright spells and some sunshine, but the | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
wind will be picking up all the time across the southern half of the UK. | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
With gusts to gale force in the English Channel. Along the coasts | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
adjacent to the English Channel as well. Further north, under the clear | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
skies tonight, it will be cold in the Highlands. We could see below | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
double figures. We won't have problems with frost or fog because | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
there is more of a breeze to move it along, but where we've got the | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
freezing fog, with hardly a breath of wind some of that will linger it | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
cannily, the western side of the Central Lowlands. So another | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
beautiful day, but a lot of sunshine tomorrow. That getting down into | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
Wales. Again, you can see a lot of cloud across parts of England | :04:28. | :04:29. | |
through the morning, but the wind will break that up and we will see | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
sunny spells develop and those are our temperatures. Ten to 12 Celsius | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
in the south. If you're stuck under the freezing fog, it may only get up | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
to minus one Celsius or freezing so you'll know all about that! As we | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
head into the weekend with high pressure in charge, beautiful day on | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
Friday. A cold start. A frosty one and some freezing fog patches here | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
and there. Saturday, again, largely dry. But a bit more cloud around. | :04:53. | :04:59. | |
Thank you very much, good morning. Hello. It is 10.05am, more support | :05:00. | :05:07. | |
for struggling families, funds to build affordable homes, a rise in | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
the minimum wage for people over 25 and reforms to Universal Credit are | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
expected to be announced when the Chancellor delivers his mini Budget | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
today. We will bring you the details. Following our interview | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
with former footballer Andy Woodward who revealed he had abused and raped | :05:26. | :05:32. | |
hundreds of times by his coach, two other players have waived their | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
anonymity. It started from touching and then developed more and more | :05:39. | :05:46. | |
with the sexual abuse and the threats of violence towards your | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
family really if you were to breathe a word to anybody. | :05:51. | :06:01. | |
Plus, they are a group said to said contain neo-Nazi and antisemites. | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
Who are America's so-called alt-right. Hail Trump. Hail victory. | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Annita is in the BBC | :06:10. | :06:19. | |
Newsroom with a summary The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
makes his first Autumn Mr Hammond is expected to balance | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
bleak news on growth by announcing plans to build more affordable | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
homes, increase the National Living Wage and ban letting | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
agent fees in England. Labour says the statement | :06:35. | :06:36. | |
is likely to be "too little, Two more football players have | :06:37. | :06:38. | |
detailed the abuse they experienced as boys at the hands of former | :06:39. | :06:48. | |
Crewe Alexandra youth Two other players have waived their | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
right to anonymity. One of them, Paul Stewart, | :06:53. | :07:04. | |
spoke to the Daily Mirror In football there are lots of highs | :07:05. | :07:14. | |
and lows which you dealt with. I dealt with this inwardly alongside | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
that. It took me some years to talk to my family about it and my wife | :07:19. | :07:26. | |
and yeah, I struggled and still struggle to this day with the | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
issues. I'm lucky that I've got a strong family unit around me because | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
you know, I don't really know whether I would have been around | :07:38. | :07:38. | |
today. A group of teenagers stabbed a | :07:39. | :07:48. | |
police officer who was off duty last night. Three boys and a girl | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
attacked the police officer near a pub in Bow. He is in hospital with | :07:53. | :07:54. | |
nonlife threatening injuries. US President Barack Obama has | :07:55. | :07:57. | |
awarded his last Presidential Medals of Freedom to a host of America's | :07:58. | :07:59. | |
most famous faces. The medals are the highest civilian | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
honour in the United States. Among the 21 recipients | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
were Ellen DeGeneres, Tom Hanks, Mr Obama made a special | :08:07. | :08:08. | |
tribute to comedian Ellen DeGeneres for her influence | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
on the gay rights movement. That's a summary of | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
the latest BBC News. First lets start with | :08:18. | :08:19. | |
the Champions League because Tottenham are out | :08:20. | :08:32. | |
of the competition. They needed a win or a draw | :08:33. | :08:34. | |
against Monaco but they lost 2-1. All the goals coming | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
in the first five minutes of the second half and even | :08:39. | :08:40. | |
a Harry Kane penalty wasn't enough. They've got one more group match | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
where they could secure a third place finish and a spot | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
in the Europa League. Leicester City though made history | :08:50. | :08:58. | |
last night reaching the knockout Okazaki opening the scoring | :08:59. | :09:00. | |
for the Foxes with a stunning top They finish top of their group | :09:01. | :09:07. | |
with one more group match to play. Despite struggling in the boss | :09:08. | :09:16. | |
Claudio Ranieri is delighted Arsenal play Paris St Germain, but | :09:17. | :09:35. | |
they are already through to the knock-out stages. | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
Despite a man-of-the-match performance and two tries | :09:38. | :09:46. | |
against Fiji at the weekend, a player has been left | :09:47. | :09:48. | |
out of the England's squad to play Argentina on Saturday. | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
The Bath wing earnt only his second cap in the 58-15 win against Fiji, | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
Scotland's women have put themselves in a great position | :09:55. | :10:02. | |
at the European Curling Championship on home soil in Glasgow. | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
They won all of their first six round robin matches | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
including this 8-6 victory against Germany. | :10:10. | :10:10. | |
It means they have all but qualified for the semi-finals | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
and are guaranteed to finish high enough in the group to earn a place | :10:14. | :10:16. | |
They are playing their seventh game right now and they are 7-5 up | :10:17. | :10:26. | |
against the Czech Republic. Let me just show you one | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
more thing before I go. We've all seen players | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
missing an open goal but this this a striker for Serbian side FK | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
Lokomotiv, playing in a Belgrade zone | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
league match. Fortunately FK Lokomotiva | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
went on to win 2-1. So all was not lost! That's all from | :10:41. | :10:52. | |
me. I will be back with more after 10.30am. If Harry Redknapp was here, | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
he would have said, "My gran would have been able to score that." | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
This morning, in their first broadcast interview, | :11:03. | :11:04. | |
the family of a British man who died fighting against the so-called | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
Islamic State in Syria describe him as "courageous, | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
22-year-old Dean Evans from Reading died in July | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
in the Syrian city of Manbij, after joining the People's | :11:16. | :11:17. | |
Defence Units or YPG, a military group whose aim | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
was to protect Kurds in Syria from Isis. | :11:24. | :11:25. | |
Dean had been desperate to serve in the military after being rejected | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
by the British Army on health grounds. | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
Dean's step-dad, Steve Howell, bought him up from the age of six. | :11:33. | :11:34. | |
Steve and his wife Tracey Howell are with us now. | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
The first time he went to Syria, you had no idea, did you? We didn't, no. | :11:40. | :11:46. | |
He actually lied to us and all of his friends and his work colleagues. | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
He told us that he wanted to travel Europe, something that he had always | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
been interested in was Auschwitz and many things since he was a young | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
lad. We took him to the airport and he flew off, 13th March, my | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
birthday, I received a message saying, "Hi, Steve, it is Dean. | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
Sorry to let you know, but I'm in Syria. I joined YPG." We didn't know | :12:12. | :12:22. | |
who YPG, our concern was that he had gone to fight for Isis, not against | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
them. We thought this could be iffy for both of us and friends and | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
family. So we had to look into it and Special Branch were involved and | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
they came and they took Dean's laptop and bits and pieces away and | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
look to see if he had been radicalised, but he hadn't, | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
everything that Dean did was off his own back like you previously said he | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
wanted to be in the military, he was a top cadet, he loved his cadet | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
work, but we lost his mum in 2011. I took him on his 18th birthday to go | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
and join up with the British forces only for him to be told that he | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
couldn't join because he had asthma which was the biggest down fall for | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
him. When he got back then, from that, did you think that's that, it | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
is out of his system now Well, Steve found it very difficult to talk to | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
Dean when he came back. I caught him one day coming down the stairs and I | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
had said, "Dean, do you need it talk about what you did out there?" I am | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
the only person he was ever able to tell the full details to. And what | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
he saw and what he did was horrendous. At times they were | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
drinking stream water because they didn't have any clean water. Even | :13:33. | :13:39. | |
fighting back on his post with dysentery. It was pretty horrendous | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
for them. He felt very guilty towards me, the fact that he had | :13:45. | :13:47. | |
lied when he went the first time. That was the hurdle that we had | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
overcome. He told us we spoke openly with him, we were always open and we | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
speak from our hearts. If there is something in your heart, you have to | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
bring it out to be true to yourself. Dean always wanted to be a | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
soldierment he always wanted to have a uniform. He told us that he didn't | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
have any intentions to go back, no return to Syria. But when did that | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
change? Well, every time the TV came on and it had something to do with | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
Isis or something to do with Syria, it changed him. You could actually | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
see him change completely. He decided in his own heart, we had a | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
feeling that he wanted to go back, but he openly spoke to us and said, | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
"Look, I'm thinking of going back. I haven't made plans yet", but he was | :14:37. | :14:39. | |
in contact with other guys and girls that he fought with over there. He | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
literally said to us, "I am possibly going to return." We decided that we | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
all needed to come together as a family, my stepdaughter and her | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
boyfriend wanted to sit down with him and talk openly about | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
everything. So that he went with all of our hearts so that he went with a | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
clear mind with no regrets from home. He was a great lad. He was so | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
calm, and he was so collected, he was a loving lad and the stories | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
that we have had back since his passing, he died on the 21st July | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
from a rocket propelled grenade with Isis and he died with his female | :15:19. | :15:28. | |
team Khanneder from the YPA. I must admit we feel honoured to be part of | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
their community. We feel that we've extended our family thousands fold | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
more and Dean died a martyr. He always said to Tracey and I, I | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
wasn't there one day when he said to the family, "I would rather live a | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
short exciting life than a long dull boring life." That was his outlook. | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
We told him outright we did not want him to go. But this is a | :15:54. | :16:01. | |
22-year-old. You cannot stop them. It was not like it did not know what | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
he was going to, because he had been there before. From when I had | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
brought him up, when I got to know him, when I first came into his | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
life, his ambition was his ambition. As parents, step parents, I don't | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
believe in stepparents, we are all parents, we want the for our | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
children. He had something that he wanted to follow. Sometimes you | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
protect your kids from themselves, even if they are adults. But if you | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
close a door on them, they will find another one. If he had gone away | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
with the feeling that we wanted to stop him going, we would never have | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
been able to forgive ourselves that he went with animosity between us | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
and that is what we did not want. We had some laughs before he went. I | :16:48. | :16:54. | |
had a feeling that it was probably going to be the last time we saw | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
him, because of words he spoke to us. He said he wanted to leave a | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
will and he wanted everything right, so we did not have to worry about | :17:05. | :17:12. | |
things, he wanted it his way. The one thing he said was that he would | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
either die out there or he would stay until the end of the war, and | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
then decide what to do. The death came first. How would you describe | :17:22. | :17:33. | |
him? He was very quiet. With us. I have a son who is similar, ages to | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
come in from work, say hello, have dinner, we would chat like a normal | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
family, that he would go to his room. We would sit in bed at night | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
and you could hear him laughing and giggling on his PlayStation with his | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
friends, so I would class him as a normal lad, he would go to work, he | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
was never any trouble, he never got into any trouble. A hell of a | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
worker, he was a dairy farmer. He loved the job on the farm, he never | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
had to be called, he was always up, he went into work, he did extra | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
work, he loved the farm and the job, but he had so much time on his hands | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
driving the tractor, he was listening to the conflict going on | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
in Syria. And motivated I the injustices. I came into his life | :18:20. | :18:26. | |
five years ago. One of the first conversations I had was about his | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
mum. I wanted him to know that I was not trying to come in and be another | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
mum to him. At the time he was just 18. From having two children of my | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
own, you only get one mum. He had lost his will stop they were very | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
close. That was one thing that affected him in his life, losing his | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
mum. She was his everything. It was very hard for him to take, occurs he | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
was on the Rangers when his mum passed, and we had to pull him back | :19:01. | :19:06. | |
of exercise for me to tell him. She died very suddenly at 41, he could | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
not accept that. He realised that people were dying of a waste of | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
life, being killed in accidents. He felt life should be lived how you | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
wanted. He went over to Syria. He spoke openly before he went the | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
second time about how lovely the Kurdish people were, how the Syrians | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
have treated him like a human being from day one, we have learned from | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
some people that they don't just accept anyone, you have to learn | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
their trust, and he was phenomenal at gaining trust. He was what he | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
was. We dreaded him being martyred. He has been martyred. There are | :19:47. | :19:53. | |
thousands martyred. My belief is the blood of the martyrs will be the | :19:54. | :19:56. | |
foundations for a new Syria to rebuild Syria, and bring it back up | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
to what it should be, a free country for people to visit. We | :20:02. | :20:09. | |
wholeheartedly keep Dean in here and talk about him daily, because he was | :20:10. | :20:16. | |
extraordinary. Thank you for telling us about him, thank you for coming | :20:17. | :20:18. | |
on the programme. The head of a committee of MPs | :20:19. | :20:20. | |
examining the collapse of BHS has asked the Pensions Regulator | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
whether assets can be seized from its former | :20:25. | :20:26. | |
owner Sir Philip Green. Assets like that Jock, for example. | :20:27. | :20:38. | |
We will get reaction. We will get your reaction, thank | :20:39. | :20:47. | |
you. We have comments about the former footballers who have raised | :20:48. | :20:56. | |
-- waived their right to anonymity to talk about being abused as young | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
boys by coaches. Chuck says, the man of the match is Paul Stewart, for | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
his courage. Alf says, a sad interview with Paul Stuart, brave | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
and courageous, best which is -- wishes. One person says, I have a | :21:12. | :21:19. | |
similar story of being a victim by a football coach. I would have been | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
about 11, in the late 80s, for a Sunday league team in the Midlands. | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
The police were involved, he was later convicted. He was also further | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
convicted of being abusive towards other boys. Alan says, there are | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
ugly secrets, young lives ruined, I applaud all the players for their | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
coverage. The Chancellor will set out | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
a mini-Budget today, his first since he took up the role | :21:43. | :21:44. | |
after Theresa May One of the key pledges he's expected | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
to announce is a ban on up-front At the moment, tenants can be | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
charged fees for a range of administration, | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
including reference, Now, those costs will be | :21:58. | :21:58. | |
shifted to landlords, saving 4.3 million households | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
hundreds of pounds. The move could spur competition | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
as landlords, unlike tenants, can Lettings-agency fees have already | :22:08. | :22:10. | |
been banned in Scotland. Labour have welcomed the move, | :22:11. | :22:17. | |
but say it doesn't go far enough. Former Labour leader Ed Milband | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
on Twitter calls for a "cap It's an issue we talked | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
about on the programme last week. We commissioned a survey, | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
which suggested three quarters of people supported Government | :22:29. | :22:30. | |
regulation on issues such as letting-agent fees, | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
contract lengths, deposits and inventory checks, | :22:34. | :22:36. | |
and nearly three quarters said they would support rent control, | :22:37. | :22:39. | |
with the Government setting maximum Our reporter Chi Chi Izundu met | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
with people struggling Trevor is 68, he is living | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
on a state pension and housing benefit, which comes | :22:50. | :23:01. | |
to ?950 a month. His last move cost him | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
?4,000 in upfront fees. It is a very small kitchen, | :23:06. | :23:14. | |
it has not got a full So we have a small mini oven, | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
deep-fat fryer, a hot But with those things, | :23:18. | :23:26. | |
I can cook a full dinner Divorced in his 50s, | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
Trevor's ex-wife got the house, Last year, his landlord decided | :23:31. | :23:37. | |
to sell, and he had to leave I had a month to find | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
somewhere else. The biggest problem of that was | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
that it costs money to move. By the time you have put | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
down your deposit and you have paid rent in advance, | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
estate-agent fees, as a pensioner I don't have that kind of money | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
in a sock under the bed. If something had gone wrong, | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
I would be really in dire straits. I was devastated, because I had | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
not seen it coming. All of a sudden, I thought, | :24:15. | :24:27. | |
"I have spent five years making a home in this place, | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
and then all of a sudden I am being told to go, not | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
wanted here anymore." I could be asked to leave this place | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
and have to move all over again, with all of the financial | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
implications that has. At my age, I don't want | :24:47. | :24:49. | |
that kind of thing. We can talk now to the Shadow | :24:50. | :24:56. | |
Housing Secretary John Healey. Do you welcome this move to ban | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
the upfront fees imposed It is a good thing if that is what | :25:03. | :25:13. | |
we get, we will back it, we have been campaigning for it for several | :25:14. | :25:16. | |
years. The Chancellor may have a problem with some of his MPs, cos | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
they have voted to block this several times. The Housing minister | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
recently we did it was a bad idea. He is wrong, and the people are well | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
ahead of the ministers. If we get the announcement, it is a good | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
thing, but it is only a start to help private renters, who are often | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
finding it really tough to survive. It may be a distant memory, but what | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
the Labour Government do for private renters? One thing we did in the | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
last year was to bring in a system that allowed councils to license | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
private landlords, so they could crack down on the road landlords and | :25:56. | :25:58. | |
improve standards across the board. Did it work? Yes, but the Government | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
has made it more difficult and it is stopping councils doing this. It is | :26:05. | :26:07. | |
what I wanted to the Government doing instead of stopping. They | :26:08. | :26:13. | |
should also bring in, as we have argued, longer tenancies, and with a | :26:14. | :26:20. | |
break to extreme rent rises during these periods. The letting agent | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
fees are a start, but in the end we have to do a great deal more to | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
build more affordable homes, for people to buy and rent. Why did you | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
not do something about tenancies when in power, or about the cost of | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
private renting? We did. We started to crack down on the worst of the | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
landlords, we started to make sure there were consistent standards | :26:45. | :26:47. | |
across the board, but even in the last six years the situation has got | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
worse, we have 11 million people who are private renters, and the people | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
that worry me most of the fact that we have one in four families with | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
kids that are in private rented homes, and many of them may face the | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
same thing as Trevor, a notice to quit within a month. It is the lack | :27:05. | :27:10. | |
of security, and often rapidly rising costs but they cannot | :27:11. | :27:12. | |
control, which require the Government to step in and do more | :27:13. | :27:14. | |
than ban letting agent fees. If you rent, really keen | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
to hear your views on plans to ban up-front letting-agent | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
fees in England. I cannot imagine anybody would | :27:23. | :27:30. | |
disagree. Also keen to hear from you if you | :27:31. | :27:32. | |
run your own business in the UK. What do you want to hear | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
from the Chancellor? Let's talk to four business owners | :27:37. | :27:38. | |
to test the economic temperature Jo Smedley is the MD | :27:39. | :27:41. | |
of murder-mystery-games entertainment company | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
Red Herring in Grimsby. Anthony Impey runs tech | :27:45. | :27:45. | |
company Optimity, employing Jude Jennison is the founder | :27:46. | :27:47. | |
of the Leadership Whisperers, a management-training | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
company in Warwickshire. Lynette Deutsch is the CEO | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
of Executive Recruitment and coaching company Endaba | :27:56. | :27:57. | |
here in London. You are here to help us test the | :27:58. | :28:13. | |
economic temperature from your own point of view. How has business been | :28:14. | :28:23. | |
since the referendum vote in June as Mac --? Initially we had a drop in | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
sales post Brexit, but it has picked up again. We have spent a lot of | :28:29. | :28:36. | |
time working with UKTI, the Department for International trade, | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
trying to make is resilient, so we have seen more export. What about | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
you? There is a general level of uncertainty that we have encountered | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
amongst our clients. People are putting off making decisions. The | :28:51. | :28:57. | |
impact possibly is not as significant as we had expected. But | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
if your clients are putting off decisions, what impact does that | :29:02. | :29:04. | |
have on your business? It slows down our growth, we were growing quickly | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
prior to the vote, and we saw a bit of a tailing off, but not a | :29:11. | :29:17. | |
collapse. Confidence is generally stable, but all of the business | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
owners that I speak to our cautious about the future and everybody is | :29:24. | :29:30. | |
taking steps to protect what might happen at some point in the future. | :29:31. | :29:34. | |
You are both nodding, you both cautious? I don't know that we are | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
ever cautious. One of the challenges of running a small business is you | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
cannot be cautious, it is the hardest job you will ever do, and | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
what it creates is both a challenge and an opportunity. We specialise in | :29:49. | :29:53. | |
leading through uncertainty, so for us this is our bread-and-butter. But | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
what we found is that clients have pulled back, and that has an impact. | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
It means that we have to have much more creativity and innovation is a | :30:03. | :30:08. | |
small business, and we can be much more agile and fast-growing and see | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
it as an opportunity to find new markets. Very similar. Ours started | :30:13. | :30:21. | |
just before the vote, a lot of our clients stopped doing anything. They | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
used it as an excuse to put things on hold. When the vote occurred, | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
they panicked. But since then, they realised the sky. Collapsed, and -- | :30:33. | :30:39. | |
they realised the sky has not collapsed. We are a service | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
provider, very similar to Judy, and to Anthony. You find yourself being | :30:44. | :30:51. | |
inputted by them. If you put things on hold, we are impacted, but it's | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
all about the opportunity. Business as usual is the uncertainty -- is | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
the answer. When you look ahead to next year, do you have any concerns? | :31:03. | :31:12. | |
We are thinking of taking on a new staff member, but it is too early to | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
decide whether we want to go ahead, because we don't know what will | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
happen with the markets. We need to make sure we have enough money to | :31:20. | :31:22. | |
pay them through the year, I don't want to take some of the on and have | :31:23. | :31:27. | |
to let them go. You all agree. You are coming across similar issues? We | :31:28. | :31:34. | |
need skilled people for our business to grow, so our biggest obstacle to | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
growth is that we cannot recruit the skills that we need. My biggest | :31:39. | :31:46. | |
concern concerning Brexit is that people of high skilled and mid | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
skilled talent we have the moment disappears as European workers | :31:51. | :31:56. | |
return to their countries and we are left with not enough high skilled | :31:57. | :31:59. | |
people in the Labour force in order to support particularly small and | :32:00. | :32:05. | |
medium-sized businesses. We are exposed. | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
We are led to believe that if you have those kind of skills you are | :32:12. | :32:19. | |
always going to be welcome. I think that's certainly the impression that | :32:20. | :32:22. | |
we give. I think the fact of the matter is no one knows and for as | :32:23. | :32:28. | |
long as nobody know there is uncertainty and really echoing what | :32:29. | :32:31. | |
Joe is saying, it is difficult to plan for the future. So I think | :32:32. | :32:35. | |
that's a big challenge. I think that's the challenge. We are living | :32:36. | :32:38. | |
in a time of great uncertain rit and that uncertainty is going to be the | :32:39. | :32:43. | |
new norm. So how we cope with the uncertainty is going to be the key | :32:44. | :32:47. | |
to how successful we are going forward. Go on. I don't envy you, I | :32:48. | :32:54. | |
really don't. It is flexibility, creativity and adaptability and | :32:55. | :32:57. | |
rather than saying, "What could have been and what should have been." It | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
is about looking forward. We've got to crack on. You also have to have | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
courage. A lot of big businesses today they hunker down and I think | :33:09. | :33:14. | |
one needs to be able to step into the unknown and do it courageously | :33:15. | :33:20. | |
and we have to give it a go. If it works great, and if it doesn't... | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
You learn from it and one has to look at the opportunities. We really | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
do. We're growing internationally and that is helping a little bit, | :33:30. | :33:35. | |
you know, we also want to take on new people, but the costs are | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
growing and so, but it is all about being agile and innovative and | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
constantly being relevant. If there is one thing, let me ask you | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
quickly, one thing you would want to hear from the chancellor, Jo, what | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
is it? An actual plan. We don't have any plans so you can't make any | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
decisions. I don't think you will get a Brexit plan. Anthony | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
Commitment to investing in skills. Confidence that we can lead through | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
uncertainty. He will say that. But real confidence and mean it and | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
embody it. Greater clarity. On? On everything. That would be amazing! | :34:15. | :34:22. | |
Yes, it would. He will stand up after PMQs, so let's look out for | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
the clarity. All the best with your businesses, | :34:26. | :34:26. | |
of course, thank you. The Government says measures to help | :34:27. | :35:04. | |
low-paid workers will be focus of the chancellor's | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
Autumn Statement, this afternoon. pounds fifty an hour, | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
and will reduce some of the proposed He's also expected to say that more | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
affordable homes will be built, and up-front letting | :35:18. | :35:21. | |
agents' fees banned. The shadow Chancellor, | :35:22. | :35:22. | |
John McDonnell, said more investment The chairman of Crewe Alexandra | :35:23. | :35:24. | |
Football Club has confirmed that it's looking into historic | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
allegations of abuse involving Former Crewe Alexandra player | :35:29. | :35:30. | |
Andy Woodward told us last week in an exclusive interview that he'd | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
been raped hundreds of times by his youth coach Barry Bennell, | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
who was jailed in 1998. A second man has come forward to say | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
he too had been abused by Bennell. A 72-year-old woman | :35:41. | :35:46. | |
from Liverpool is being treated in hospital after being shot | :35:47. | :35:48. | |
in the leg last night. A group of teenagers stabbed an off | :35:49. | :35:57. | |
duty police officer in is London last night. They attacked the | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
plainclothes police officer near a pub yesterday evening. He is in | :36:01. | :36:04. | |
hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. What else do you know? The | :36:05. | :36:13. | |
policeman was on a preplanned operation, but he was plainclothes. | :36:14. | :36:20. | |
The Dukes would not have known he was a policeman when they approached | :36:21. | :36:27. | |
him. He was in an alleyway near the Bow Bells pub in East London. They | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
approached him just before 9:30pm. He suffered three stab wounds. He | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
was taken to hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. The | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
police don't know if it is linked to another incident in which a motorist | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
was threatened with a knife outside the Devens Road rail station. They | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
are appealing for witnesses. I mail is in custody, his age is unknown, | :36:51. | :36:58. | |
he was arrested on attempted murder, but it is not able to be a terror | :36:59. | :37:00. | |
related incident. Let's get some sport | :37:01. | :37:08. | |
from Leah Boleto. Harry Kane's penalty was not enough, | :37:09. | :37:21. | |
but they still can secure a third place position and a spot in the | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
Europa League with a draw in their final group match. | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
Leicester City made history last night making the knock-out stages | :37:31. | :37:37. | |
for the first time ever with this opening goal. Despite a Man of the | :37:38. | :37:45. | |
Match performance and two tries against Fiji, a key player has been | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
left out of England's squad to play Argentina on Saturday. Scotland's | :37:51. | :37:55. | |
women have continued their 100% record at European Churlg | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
Championships in Glasgow. One more line for you, in the last | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
half an hour, Fifa's disciplinary committee announced the opening of | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
proceedings against the Irish Football Association and the | :38:10. | :38:12. | |
Football Association of Wales. This is in relation to incidents | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
involving the display of poppy symbols during recent internationals | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
and of course, we will bring you more on that on the BBC News Channel | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
throughout the day. From me, that's all for now. | :38:23. | :38:28. | |
Donald Trump has repudiated the fringe "alt-right" group that | :38:29. | :38:30. | |
celebrated his election win with Nazi salutes. | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
Hail Trump. Hail our people. Hail victory. They hate political | :38:35. | :38:43. | |
correctness and femmed nism and love Donald Trump. Their critics say they | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
are nothing, but bigoted white nationals, who are the Alt-right? | :38:48. | :38:52. | |
The Alt-right came to pram nans during Donald Trump's long election | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
campaign, it is a desperate group of people with no official organisation | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
or leader. They are nationalist and they are antiestablishment. Their | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
followers are fond of internet pranks and using offensive messages | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
to goad their enemies on both the right and the left. The movement has | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
branches in other countries, include in the UK. Many of them are huge | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
supporters of Donald Trump. During the election campaign Hillary | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
Clinton criticised Mr Trump for his ties to who she called the rising | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
ideology of the Alt-right. From the start Donald Trump has built his | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
campaign on prejudice and paranoia. He is taking hate groups mainstream. | :39:35. | :39:41. | |
Many people within the movement admitted to attract some races, but | :39:42. | :39:50. | |
deny that's the main theme of the movement's idea. This is how some | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
Alt-right celebrated Donald Trump's election win. Hail Trump. Hail our | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
people. Hail victory. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
The man you saw speaking there was the group's leader, Richard spap | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
Sensor. He wasn't elected on Obamacare. This is why he was | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
elected is because he was the identity president. We know Muslims | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
hate everyone... Alt-right have got the support of this man, he runs the | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
Breitbart website which has been linked to the Alt-right movement. | :40:30. | :40:35. | |
You can define it to include classical liberals, leftists, | :40:36. | :40:41. | |
ordinary Conservatives and this new, young, very, very energised youthful | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
contingent that have suddenly become interested in politics again. Donald | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
Trump has appointed Stephen bannon the editor-in-chief of the Breitbart | :40:51. | :40:57. | |
website as his chief strategist. Now Mr Trump has distanced himself from | :40:58. | :41:00. | |
the group which celebrated his election win with Nazi salutes. In | :41:01. | :41:07. | |
an interview with the New York Times he said, "I condemn." . Condemn | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
them." We can talk now to Scott Lucas who | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
is Professor of American Politics Who are the Alt-right? Let's call it | :41:17. | :41:26. | |
what it is. Whether you call it white identity, while nationalism, | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
this is a movement which we have seen in the new media age, but it | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
does happen to older movements. Where I grew up we had white citizen | :41:37. | :41:46. | |
leagues and this is not true of all people who support Donald Trump or | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
the views of white supremacy, this is a group that's anti-Muslim and | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
anti-Semitic and sometimes anti-Catholic and sometimes | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
anti-women. As your reporter made clear, it is not separate from | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
Trump's campaign. It is there through Steve Bannon who said | :42:06. | :42:12. | |
Breitbart News is a platform. Now Mr Trump has distanced himself from | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
them, is that enough? No, Trump was being naive or deceptive because | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
Trump said, "I would never have hired Steve Bannon if I thought he | :42:22. | :42:25. | |
was Alt-right." Steve Bannon has openly said he is part of the | :42:26. | :42:28. | |
Alt-right and that he promotes it. He said so in August, a week before | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
he joined Trump's campaign team. So, no, Trump is trying out a bit of PR | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
yesterday, but he has not effectively distanced himself from | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
the movement. Do you think that the number of white people in America, | :42:44. | :42:50. | |
at any point, is going to become a minority and therefore the Alt-right | :42:51. | :42:52. | |
movement is only going to continue to grow? Well, the first question is | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
almost certainly is that because of the expansion of other groups, | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
African Americans, Hispanic, and marbian-Americans, there will be a | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
more diverse America where whites are not the majority. Does that mean | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
the Alt-right become stronger? It is up to Americans. Americans can take | :43:12. | :43:14. | |
a stand and say, "Look, we are not simply going to be a white identity | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
nation. We believe in defending the rights of all people whatever their | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
colour, whatever their religion. " It is going to have to be a | :43:23. | :43:26. | |
grass-roots response to really confront some of the more extreme | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
elements that you talked about your video about the money which is | :43:31. | :43:33. | |
saying a country for whites and no one else. Thank you very much. Thank | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
you. Scott Lucas, Professor of American politics at the University | :43:40. | :43:40. | |
of Birmingham. Meanwhile President Obama has | :43:41. | :43:42. | |
praised American comedian Ellen DeGeneres for her influence | :43:43. | :43:44. | |
on the gay rights movement as she received the country's | :43:45. | :43:47. | |
highest civilian honour. Ellen DeGeneres has a way of making | :43:48. | :43:56. | |
you laugh about something rather than at someone! Except when I | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
danced on her show, she laughed at me! | :44:01. | :44:01. | |
LAUGHTER But that's OK. It is easy to forget | :44:02. | :44:11. | |
now, when we've come so far, or now marriage is equal under the law, | :44:12. | :44:18. | |
just how much courage was required for Ellen to come out on the most | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
public of stages almost 20 years ago, just how important it was. Not | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
just to the LGBT community, but for all of us to see somebody so full of | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
kindness and light, somebody we liked so much, somebody who could be | :44:33. | :44:39. | |
our neighbo or our colleague or our sister, challenge our own | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
assumptions and remind us that we have more in common than we realise, | :44:43. | :44:45. | |
push our country in the direction of justice. What an incredible burden | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
that was to bear, to risk your career like that. People don't do | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
that very often. And then to have the hopes of | :44:55. | :44:59. | |
millions on your shoulders. But it is like Ellen says, we all want a | :45:00. | :45:08. | |
chip that can support the weight of guatmoli which really makes no sense | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
to me! LAUGHTER | :45:13. | :45:15. | |
But I thought would break the mood because I was getting kind of choked | :45:16. | :45:16. | |
up! She did pay a price, we don't | :45:17. | :45:32. | |
remember this. For a pretty long stretch of time. Even in Hollywood. | :45:33. | :45:47. | |
And yet today, every day in every way, she counters what to often | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
divides us with the countless things that bind us together and inspires | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
us to be better. One joke, one dance at a time. | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
Tom Hanks, Robert De Niro and Michael Jordan were among the 21 | :46:00. | :46:06. | |
recipient of the presidential medal of Freedom. | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
News Justin, the jury trying the case of Stephen Porte, accused of | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
killing four young men with fatal doses of the date rape drug -- GH B, | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
is beginning to return some of its verdict. In the last minute he has | :46:22. | :46:28. | |
been found guilty at the Old Bailey of the murders of three men. The | :46:29. | :46:37. | |
alleged serial killer has been found guilty in the last couple of minutes | :46:38. | :46:47. | |
of the murders of three young men. He was on trial, accused of the | :46:48. | :46:51. | |
murders of four men with fatal doses of the date rape joke GHB. -- drug. | :46:52. | :47:00. | |
There are verdict is still to come in, but a jury has found him guilty | :47:01. | :47:08. | |
of the murder of three men. I am just hearing that the jury has also | :47:09. | :47:12. | |
found him guilty of three rapes as well. They are considering other | :47:13. | :47:17. | |
charges as we speak, we will bring them to you when we have them. | :47:18. | :47:20. | |
Two more footballers have waived their right to anonymity | :47:21. | :47:22. | |
to reveal the abuse they suffered at the hands of a youth coach. | :47:23. | :47:25. | |
The story has emerged following our exclusive interview | :47:26. | :47:27. | |
with former Crewe Alexandra player Andy Woodward, who told us last week | :47:28. | :47:30. | |
he'd been raped hundreds of times by former youth coach Barry Bennell. | :47:31. | :47:33. | |
Andy spoke to us again yesterday and said he'd spoken to six players | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
who've since told him they too have experienced abuse. | :47:39. | :47:46. | |
I have been inundated with not only be six people that I have spoken to | :47:47. | :47:53. | |
directly, but also direct messages from other players who have told me | :47:54. | :48:03. | |
that... So many stories, heartbreaking, I have been so | :48:04. | :48:06. | |
emotional. They are harrowing, they have reached out to me and thanked | :48:07. | :48:12. | |
me so much for coming out originally. It has given them that | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
faith. You have spoken to six, but other contact via Twitter. In total, | :48:17. | :48:22. | |
how many people have got in touch with you? Several people that have | :48:23. | :48:32. | |
contacted me. I can't put a number on it. They vary in what they have | :48:33. | :48:38. | |
said. They all footballers? Yes, former footballers. Did they say | :48:39. | :48:46. | |
that they found the courage to speak out because you had? Absolutely, | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
that is what they have said, because of what I said, it has given them | :48:52. | :48:55. | |
courage and belief and strength to come out and say yet. Cheshire | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
police say they are investigating. Is this the tip of the iceberg? I | :49:00. | :49:07. | |
have said it all along, it is. But some people it will take a long time | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
for them to come out or speak. There is no rush. The police have started | :49:13. | :49:16. | |
their investigation, and I don't want to put pressure on anybody. I | :49:17. | :49:21. | |
came out with a long view for other people to survive from this. I | :49:22. | :49:24. | |
cannot thank the public enough for what they have done. It is | :49:25. | :49:30. | |
brilliant, I can't thank them for the support they have given me | :49:31. | :49:31. | |
enough. Andy Woodward also told us | :49:32. | :49:38. | |
he was disappointed his old club Crewe hadn't spoken out | :49:39. | :49:40. | |
about the abuse. Since then, John Bowler, | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
the Crewe chairman since 1987, told our sports editor Dan Roan | :49:44. | :49:46. | |
an inquiry is underway at Crewe into the crimes Barry Bennell | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
committed while at the club. Infuriated. And very disappointed. | :49:51. | :50:05. | |
Your message to the victims? We are understandably distressed for them | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
and by the accusations that have been made. Looking back, was there | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
anything you could have done to prevent this? When we have done our | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
enquiries and looked into the detail of the various accusations and we | :50:21. | :50:27. | |
have considered them all, then I will be in a position to answer that | :50:28. | :50:30. | |
kind of question. Your message to Andy Woodward? I am very sorry for | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
the distress he has been caused and wish him well. | :50:37. | :50:37. | |
Steve Walters, who became Crewe's youngest-ever | :50:38. | :50:39. | |
player at the age of 16, tells the Guardian he too | :50:40. | :50:42. | |
He told the Guardian, "All these years I've had | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
But I want closure, and I know this move will help me move on." | :50:48. | :50:53. | |
The Daily Mirror devotes its first five pages to claims by the former | :50:54. | :50:57. | |
Spurs and England star Paul Stewart that a different coach abused him | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
every day for four years, until he was 15. | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
He says his attacker got away with it by threatening | :51:06. | :51:07. | |
to kill his relatives if he ever told anyone. | :51:08. | :51:10. | |
He blames the abuse for drink and drug problems | :51:11. | :51:12. | |
He asked if I wanted to drive the car. | :51:13. | :51:27. | |
It started from touching and then developed more and more into sexual | :51:28. | :51:36. | |
abuse and the threats of violence towards your family, | :51:37. | :51:43. | |
if you were to breathe a word to anybody. | :51:44. | :51:46. | |
He said he was going to kill your brothers? | :51:47. | :51:49. | |
Of course, all those years you were playing at the top level, | :51:50. | :52:00. | |
Paul Gascoigne and these enormous household names, | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
Even as you were enjoying great success, you were dealing with it | :52:07. | :52:12. | |
and having suicidal thoughts as a result? | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
In football there are lots of highs and lows, which you deal | :52:16. | :52:22. | |
with as part of the game, and I dealt with this | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
It took me some years to speak to my family about it, my wife. | :52:27. | :52:38. | |
I struggled and still struggle to this day with the issues. | :52:39. | :52:45. | |
I'm lucky that I have a strong family. | :52:46. | :52:49. | |
Because I don't really know if I would have been around today. | :52:50. | :52:53. | |
The most difficult thing is the fact I was unable to deal | :52:54. | :53:02. | |
with the emotions and I still struggle with that today. | :53:03. | :53:10. | |
By the way, the Mirror did give us permission to use that interview, | :53:11. | :53:13. | |
and Paul Stewart had waived his right to | :53:14. | :53:15. | |
Gordon Taylor met Andy Woodward yesterday, do you think it is the | :53:16. | :53:30. | |
tip of the iceberg? I would suggest it is going to be into double | :53:31. | :53:37. | |
figures, from what I am hearing, since Andy has come out, we will see | :53:38. | :53:40. | |
more and more players have the confidence to come out and the | :53:41. | :53:45. | |
courage to come out. But it will take some time. With regard to Andy, | :53:46. | :53:53. | |
he was in touch with our confidential helpline last year, he | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
had quite a number of counselling sessions and advice from trained | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
specialists. It has had the courage and confidence to come out as part | :54:06. | :54:13. | |
of a healing process, and we are now meeting up with other such players | :54:14. | :54:16. | |
and looking to counsel and advise them with regard to the current | :54:17. | :54:23. | |
situation and the future. Could this man be the Jimmy Savile of the | :54:24. | :54:30. | |
football world? As we have seen in other professions, you have seen it | :54:31. | :54:37. | |
at the BBC, that it has been in a lot of areas, where there are adults | :54:38. | :54:41. | |
in responsible positions over children, and they have exploited | :54:42. | :54:48. | |
that position with abuse, and it is very harrowing, it is obviously | :54:49. | :54:56. | |
disturbing to deal with, but we are looking to make sure that this is in | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
the past, and we have got to be mindful that this does not happen in | :55:03. | :55:06. | |
the present, and to heed what has happened. There are more | :55:07. | :55:13. | |
safeguarding issues at play now but the FA and with the football league | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
and the Premier League, but it is something that we need to be | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
extremely vigilant on. And learn from the past. Gordon Taylor, the | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
head of the PFA. Let's go live to the Old Bailey, the | :55:26. | :55:38. | |
trial of Stephen Port. What have you heard? The jury have been out since | :55:39. | :55:47. | |
Monday last week, and last night they came back and said they had | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
agreed unanimously on some of the charges but not others, so the judge | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
put them back and put all of the indictments to them, and they gave | :55:56. | :56:02. | |
verdict on some of them. Stephen Port, a chef from East London, faced | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
29 charges, including drugging, rape, sexual assault and four | :56:07. | :56:11. | |
murders. The jury had found him guilty of three of those murders, | :56:12. | :56:17. | |
all against young gay men in their early 20s, all in about a year's | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
period. The jury also found him guilty of some of the drugging, rape | :56:23. | :56:28. | |
and sexual assault charges. Seven drugging offences, free sexual | :56:29. | :56:31. | |
assaults and three rapes. They could not agree on the other charges, the | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
judge has sent them away to good to do their deliberations and has given | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
them a direction he will accept a majority verdict. The verdicts we | :56:40. | :56:50. | |
know about, three men, Gabriel Kovari, Daniel Whitworth and Jack | :56:51. | :56:53. | |
Taylor, all killed close to his flat. They all had strikingly | :56:54. | :56:57. | |
similar details about their deaths, they had all been picked up on apps, | :56:58. | :57:02. | |
taken up to Stephen Port's flat and given lethal overdoses of jihadi B. | :57:03. | :57:11. | |
Gabriel Kovari was killed in August 2014, he is a Slovakian, and Daniel | :57:12. | :57:18. | |
Whitworth was 21, just a month later, both were found 500 metres | :57:19. | :57:23. | |
away from Stephen Port's flat in a churchyard, by the same dog walker. | :57:24. | :57:29. | |
A day later, Jack Taylor, 25, from Dagenham, was also killed, given an | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
overdose. His family were in court, many of the family members were, | :57:35. | :57:37. | |
there were tears of the verdicts were read out, Stephen Port stud | :57:38. | :57:44. | |
impassively in the dock. The jury have gone away to knew their | :57:45. | :57:48. | |
deliberations, they have been out since Monday, they have agreed | :57:49. | :57:51. | |
unanimously verdicts on three murders a range of other charges, | :57:52. | :57:53. | |
they continue their deliberations on the rest now. | :57:54. | :58:02. | |
To reiterate, a jury has found Stephen Port guilty of the murders | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
of three young gay men, Jack Taylor, Daniel Whitworth and Gabriel Kovari. | :58:09. | :58:12. | |
More reaction tomorrow to the case. 24 watching. We are back tomorrow at | :58:13. | :58:20. | |
9am. | :58:21. | :58:26. |