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I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme. | :00:08. | :00:13. | |
Could a lack of choice when it comes to contraception for women lead | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
to a rise in unplanned pregnancies and abortions? | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
I really do think we will see an increase in unwanted pregnancies. If | :00:22. | :00:29. | |
the cuts carry on at the rate we are seeing now, we will see another | :00:30. | :00:30. | |
escalation in teenage pregnancy. We'll bring you that story | :00:31. | :00:36. | |
around 9:15 this morning. We're keen to hear your experiences, | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
too, on the contraceptive Plus: outdated and held back | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
by elderly white men - that's the view of the Football | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
Association from five middle-aged We'll speak to two of them | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
before ten this morning. And Madonna says the most | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
controversial thing she's ever done Thank you for acknowledging my | :00:54. | :01:08. | |
ability to continue my career for 34 years in the face of blatant | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
misogyny, sexism, constant bullying and relentless abuse. | :01:15. | :01:25. | |
Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11. | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
Throughout the programme we'll bring you the latest breaking news | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
and developing stories - and as always really | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
A little later in the programme we're talking | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
programme Muslims Like Us which has been described a Big | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
Critics say it could perpetuate negative sterorypes. | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
Do get in touch and tell us what you think - use the hashtag | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
#Victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
Five former Football Association chiefs have urged the Government | :02:01. | :02:08. | |
to reform the structure of the Football Association. | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
They criticised its upper ranks as being "out of balance" and filled | :02:11. | :02:12. | |
David Bernstein, David Davies, Greg Dyke, Alex Horne | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
and David Triesman called for legislation to be | :02:17. | :02:17. | |
passed, blaming the FA's "inability to reform". | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
Their concerns are laid out in a letter to the Culture, | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
Its chairman says legislation is needed to turn the FA | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
The letter that was sent to the committee clearly demonstrates the | :02:27. | :02:34. | |
frustration of former chairman of the FA that they did not have the | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
power to get through the reform that they wanted and that football is | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
dominated by a series of vested interest who wield too much power. | :02:42. | :02:45. | |
I'm joined now live from Wembley by our sports | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
Is this the catalyst for reform? We have been down this road more than | :02:49. | :02:59. | |
once before, Victoria. There have been repeated calls in the past for | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
the FA to reform, to modernise, to bring itself up to date, but they | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
haven't materialised. This is a major intervention nevertheless, | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
five senior figures from within the FA over the years, its first three | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
independent chairman calling for that reform, for gov-mac to | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
intervene, for legislation to be passed saying simply that there are | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
too many all the white men within the organisation who are incapable | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
of passing even the smallest of things, let alone the big structural | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
reforms that they believe are needed to bring the organisation dragged | :03:36. | :03:42. | |
into the 21st-century. So I think it will be a significant moment in this | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
debate. Whether it is enough to bring about change, we will have to | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
see, but there is certainly an appetite from the Culture, Media and | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
Sport committee to try to do what it can to pressure and bring about that | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
change, even through calling for a vote of no-confidence and by | :04:01. | :04:09. | |
drafting legislation. And Tallaght dash-mac talk about the latest in | :04:10. | :04:21. | |
terms of historical sexual abuse in football. We have heard that the | :04:22. | :04:30. | |
director of football has been suspended by the FA, and in | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
Scotland, John Swinney of the SNP has told the BBC he believes the | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
Scottish football Association should conduct an independent, call for an | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
independent inquiry into abuse within Scotland, and he says Police | :04:43. | :04:49. | |
Scotland must take a lead on this. This issue of historical abuse | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
within football ongoing, and we will have to see where the story goes | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
next, whether claims take us next, but those enquiries starting within | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
England, and there are calls in Scotland for more to be done there. | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
Thank you, Richard Conway at Wembley. | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
Six people have been arrested this morning on suspicion of offences | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
Four men from Derby, a woman from London and a man | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
from Burton-on-Trent are being held in police custody on suspicion | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
of preparing for an act of terrorism as part of an ongoing | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
European migrants living in the UK should be given a guarantee they can | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
stay in the country after Brexit, according to a think tank | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
It calls the Prime Minister's refusal to guarantee | :05:33. | :05:35. | |
the status of Europeans in the UK "morally wrong". | :05:36. | :05:37. | |
There are almost three million people from other parts of the EU | :05:38. | :05:46. | |
living and working in the UK, and it is unclear what happens | :05:47. | :05:49. | |
This report from the British Future think tank, which includes Leave | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
and Remain supporters, says those living in the UK | :05:54. | :05:56. | |
now should be offered permanent residency, | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
but the triggering of Article 50 should be the cut-off date. | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
The Government wants that to happen in March, | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
so anyone arriving after should not expect to stay indefinitely. | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
People's lives are important, and it sets the right | :06:12. | :06:13. | |
tone for negotiations, because we would expect that EU | :06:14. | :06:23. | |
countries to do the right thing by UK citizens, | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
but if we make the first step, put in concrete proposals on how | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
to make this happen, I think we will serve both UK | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
A cut-off date may cause a surge in applications | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
In order to cope, the report calls for a streamlining of the system, | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
fast-tracking the two million who have been here for | :06:42. | :06:43. | |
The Government says it wants to protect the status of EU | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
nationals already living here, and the only circumstances | :06:49. | :06:50. | |
in which that wouldn't be possible is if British citizens' rights | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
in European member states were not protected in return. | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
Those behind the report say using people as part | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
of the negotiations is morally wrong. | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
Later today, campaigners will deliver a letter to Downing Street, | :07:07. | :07:08. | |
asking the Prime Minister the end the uncertainty for the millions | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
of EU nationals who have already made their lives here in the UK. | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
Officials in Nigeria say two young girls have been | :07:15. | :07:28. | |
At least one other person died in the attack in a packed | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
marketplace in Maiduguri which is situated in the north | :07:32. | :07:33. | |
Authorities described the girls as being 7 or 8 years old. | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
It's not known which group was behind the bombings. | :07:38. | :07:39. | |
But Boko Haram militants have carried out similar attacks before. | :07:40. | :07:48. | |
Syrian activists say government forces have retaken another key | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
district of eastern Aleppo from the rebels, after a night | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
Forces loyal to President Assad now control the overwhelming | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
The advance comes less than 24 hours after rebels received a US-backed | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
proposal to leave Aleppo along with civilians, under safe passage | :08:01. | :08:00. | |
More than ten thousand civilians are reported to have fled Aleppo | :08:01. | :08:16. | |
The Prime Minister is understood to be considering plans to allow | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
councils in England and Wales to increase council tax to fund | :08:22. | :08:23. | |
It follows warnings that the system could "topple at any moment" leading | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
to pressure on the NHS if patients cannot be released from hospital. | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
Local councils have suffered more than a 40% reduction | :08:31. | :08:32. | |
Many GPs in England have stopped providing some forms | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
of contraception because of funding cuts, the Victoria Derbyshire | :08:37. | :08:38. | |
Some clinicians have said cuts to contraceptive services | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
will mean "more unplanned pregnancies and abortions". | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
The Advisory Group on Contraception's research comes | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
after the Government announced public health cuts totalling more | :08:50. | :08:51. | |
and we will have more on that for you at quarter past. | :08:52. | :09:04. | |
Scientists have expressed concern about a surge in the levels | :09:05. | :09:06. | |
of methane gas being released into the atmosphere. | :09:07. | :09:08. | |
US researchers say emissions of methane - | :09:09. | :09:10. | |
a more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide - | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
are growing at their fastest rate in 20 years. | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
The cause is thought to be agriculture, with rice paddies | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
and cattle significant sources of methane. | :09:18. | :09:18. | |
Scientists say efforts to tackle climate change will be undermined | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
unless the emissions are brought under control. | :09:22. | :09:33. | |
The Home Secretary is planning to make it become a criminal offence to | :09:34. | :09:41. | |
become a member of the far right group. Members of the rail union | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
Aslef are planning three days of strikes this week, a move the Home | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
Secretary called totally unacceptable. The strikes will halt | :09:52. | :09:59. | |
all Southern services, affecting millions of passengers every day. | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
Santa Claus may have to look for a new animal | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
to pull his sleigh in future, because apparently reindeer | :10:09. | :10:10. | |
Scientists have found that wild reindeer living in the Arctic weigh | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
Changes to winter and summer conditions are causing the animals | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
to develop smaller body sizes, to die younger and to | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
That is a summary of the latest news. I will have more at 9:30am. | :10:22. | :10:32. | |
Thank you for your comments on cuts to contraceptive services. Mari on | :10:33. | :10:45. | |
Facebook says, why are we surprised, even GPs do not do proper | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
consultation any more. John says, why do we blame the NHS for our own | :10:52. | :11:00. | |
sexual well-being? Money for the vulnerable or money for family | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
planning? Do get in touch. Let's get some sport now. John, a nightmare | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
for England's cricketers? They are looking for Christmas to | :11:09. | :11:18. | |
come early, a little bit of trouble for them out there in India are the | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
moment, they lost their fourth test by one innings and 36 runs. They | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
needed the bottom order to show resistance, but when Jonny Bairstow | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
went, it was looking unlikely, and they lost their remaining four | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
wickets in just over half an hour. Ravi Ashwin Mandarin the damage of | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
India, he took six wickets in this innings. This follows a man of the | :11:41. | :11:47. | |
match performance from Virat Kohli with an incredible score of 235 | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
yesterday, so England are now 3-0 down in the series with one match to | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
play, and I think they would rather fancy coming home now for an early | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
Christmas! Let's talk about Chelsea. What is | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
behind their superb run? You do wonder, because Antonio Conte | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
is using the same players that Jose Mourinho had at his disposal when he | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
was sacked last season. They just have their fighting spirit back | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
again, that determination. He has managed to galvanise this group of | :12:20. | :12:22. | |
players once again, and that man, Diego Costa, who scored the winning | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
goal against West Brom yesterday, he is now the Premier League's leading | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
goal-scorer, and they are on a nine match winning run, seeing them top | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
the table with 37 points, so they are going very well. But that | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
fighting spirit boiled over when they played Manchester City in the | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
previous match. They have been charged by the FA for failure to | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
control their players, but Antonio Conte has laughed off suggestions | :12:48. | :12:49. | |
that they could face a points deduction despite the fact that they | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
have failed to control players for the fifth time in 19 months. They | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
will face punishment, but we wait to see what it will be. | :12:59. | :13:01. | |
And the fallout for the Russian doping scandal goes on on? | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
Yes, you wonder what is next. The second part of Richard McLaren's | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
report came out on Friday, providing that extra detail into the | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
state-sponsored doping programme. Now Latvia have come out to say that | :13:18. | :13:20. | |
they will now boycott the world Skeleton bobsleigh champion that are | :13:21. | :13:27. | |
due to take place in February. They have said they will only take part | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
if it is moved. And Lizzy Yarnold who won gold in the skeleton bob out | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
in Sochi in the winter Olympics says she may boycott the World | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
Championships. So the sporting community taking a stand against | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
Russia following those revelations about the state-sponsored doping | :13:46. | :13:47. | |
programme, and you wonder what further punishment are to come. The | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
IOC have said they will retest the samples of all Russian athletes from | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
the London Olympics and the Sochi Games, but I think the sporting | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
community wanting to see a greater stand taken, and some suggesting | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
Russia should have the World Cup taken away. We wonder what is to | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
come. More from John throughout the morning, thank you. | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
This morning, could a lack of choice when it comes to contraception | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
for women lead to a rise in unplanned pregnancies | :14:14. | :14:15. | |
This programme has learnt that many GPs in England have stopped | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
providing some forms of contraception | :14:20. | :14:20. | |
Clinicians are warning it could mean "more unplanned | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
Jean Mackenzie has this exclusive report | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
which does contain some frank details. | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
I experienced weight gain, complete loss of libido, I had thrush. I just | :14:32. | :14:44. | |
felt like I wasn't me. I felt a little bit off of my centre. Sex is | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
supposed to be something we enjoy, yet to get contraception is so hard, | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
it is a barrier to enjoyment. These are your pills, we have mail | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
condoms, and then this is a diaphragm. We also have the | :15:03. | :15:09. | |
contraceptive injection, and this is a very flexible plastic ring that | :15:10. | :15:17. | |
you can use. There are now 15 types of contraception, but no | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
contraception is perfect and works for everyone. Every woman's | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
experiences different, and what is important is choice, but how much is | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
that choice being eroded? Clinics are having to close down, restrict | :15:33. | :15:39. | |
their hours. Difficulty getting to GPs, contraception clinics. We are | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
constrained with time and money. I do think we will see an increase in | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
abortions and women having unwanted pregnancies. We have seen evidence | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
that contraceptive services are being cut, and heard how women's | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
choices being taken away. My experience with contraception has | :15:55. | :16:02. | |
been a rollercoaster, but mainly at the bottom. It feels as though it's | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
messed my body around and my hormones and my emotions. The worst | :16:08. | :16:18. | |
contraception I had was the coil. It I just had no libido. I tried | :16:19. | :16:28. | |
proguest ropeb pills. One led to heavy bleeding. One led to bleed, | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
but really affected my mood. Suddenly I was crying in the shower | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
every morning and I felt like I was going to burst into tears at any | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
moment and I was so low. After a few months I came off that and | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
straightaway I was fine again. I have made the decision not to be on | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
any contraception. It means I'm relieved every month when I get my | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
period. It is a risk and it makes me quite nervous, but I'm not willing | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
to go back and go through those side-effects again. | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
Most contraception in England is paid for out of Connell's public | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
health budgets, by last year the Government cut by ?800 million over | :17:08. | :17:13. | |
six years. Now research by a group of leading sexual health experts | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
uncovered cuts to local contraceptive services, they say | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
making it harder to get contraception will mean more | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
unwanted pregnancies and more abortions. Tracey works with women | :17:25. | :17:36. | |
seeking abortions. You speak to women every day whose contraception | :17:37. | :17:39. | |
failed them. What are they saying to you? Women tell me every day that | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
their choice has been taken away and they tell me about the difficulties | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
in accessing services, difficulty getting into GPs, they are not | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
allowed to have the same pill that they have had. Some women have been | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
on the contraceptive patch and they are told their GPs don't do that | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
anymore. Some women have been on the ring and they have been told they | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
don't do that anymore and they are finding that contraceptive clinics | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
have shutdown. Most women get their contraception | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
from their GP and in recent years there has been a drive to offer | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
women a range of options particularly what is called long | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
acting contraception, things like the coil and the implant, but in | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
some surgeries those options are being taken away. A third of | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
councils are in the process of making these cuts to long acting | :18:34. | :18:45. | |
contraception. This doctor's practise has stopped | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
offering some of these methods. As a female doctor I feel terribly | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
embarrassed that I can't offer my patients a local service in my | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
practise. My concern is for my patients and I do feel that, you | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
know, I feel bad when I have to say, I'm sorry, if you want the implant | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
you would have to go elsewhere. Recently I had a woman who came in, | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
she said right, I'm ready. She wanted the coil. We had a discussion | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
about it and unfortunately, we couldn't arrange that for her here | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
so I said you need to go to the family planning centre and I found | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
out there was a like a six-week wait and you know, we just laughed and I | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
said, you will probably get pregnant before you get your next coil at | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
this rate. It is quite shocking. How much pressure are GPs under to | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
prescribe women contraception based on how much they cost? I'd like to | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
say we would always give a woman what she wants, but drug costs are | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
an issue and they are at the back of most GP's mind when they are doing | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
prescriptions. If someone was for example talking about the ring, you | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
are thinking OK, that's about ?30 for three months compared to an | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
ordinary pill which is ?1.80 for three months. | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
We have seen a survey of more than 1,000 GPs. Only 2% said they offered | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
all 15 methods of contraception. And more than half said there isn't | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
enough time in an appointment to give a woman all the information she | :20:18. | :20:23. | |
needs. What impact does it have on women if they are not given the | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
contraception that they want? You're less likely to get a woman coming | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
back for repeat prescriptions. That pill that's giving her maybe | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
side-effects that she couldn't come back to you and talk about because | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
she felt that was her only option, that's a challenge. And so you then | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
you find women coming in, they are pregnant and you are saying, but you | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
were given the pill, contraception is only as good as you use it and if | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
that woman isn't comfortable with the choice that you've made for her | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
rather than what she wanted then that really is a failure towards | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
those patients. I went on the pill when I was about | :21:02. | :21:08. | |
18 or 19. I found it uncomfortable to say the least. I just found I | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
didn't feel myself. After experiencing those side-effects I | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
decided that I didn't want to take hormonal contraception. My first | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
stop was a diaphragm. I looked into every single option and I decided I | :21:22. | :21:29. | |
didn't want the impact. The nurse's reaction wasn't positive. Her | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
reaction was terrible. She told me I was going to get pregnant and she | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
told me it wasn't effective and because I'm young I was super | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
fertile. She laughed me out of the room and she reluctantly fitted, but | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
because of her reaction when I was having trouble with it or when I | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
wasn't quite sure, I didn't want to go back and I didn't want to go | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
back. So I just stopped, I just gave up on it. I basically got pregnant | :21:55. | :22:02. | |
and although that was, it was unplanned, it was definitely | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
unplanned and definitely a lot, I was at uni and yeah, it was tough. | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
As much as I don't want to say it is the system's fault that I got | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
pregnant, there is blame there. There is definitely blame there. I | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
felt like I had made an informed choice based on the information I | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
had available to me, and when I walked into that clinic, I felt that | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
I wasn't supported in that choice and that eventually led to my | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
contraception failing me. As well as GPs women can go to sexual health | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
clinics for their contraception, but a quarter of councils have closed | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
clinics or are looking at cutting them back. I'm really lucky here | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
because our access hasn't been restricted. In other areas, clinics | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
are having to close down. They're having to restrict their hours. | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
They're losing staff. Certainly outside London, women may have to | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
travel enormous distances in order to access sexual health settings | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
which may only be open a couple of days a week. What do you say happens | :23:05. | :23:11. | |
to sexual health clinics? We are seeing an increase in women seeking | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
long acting methods of contraception because they're having difficulty | :23:18. | :23:20. | |
accessing that elsewhere. So these are the methods which would | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
probably, the pills and emergency contraception are probably the | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
things that most women would access from their GPs. Then on the other | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
hand we've got what we call our long acting reversible methods. The | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
coils, the implant and the injection and it is these methods that we're | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
seeing in some areas being restricted because they're perceived | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
to be expensive and GPs might not actually be able to prescribe them. | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
These methods here, the patch and the ring, also very good and easy to | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
prescribe from general practice, but we're seeing the funding for those | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
being limited because they're thought to be quite expensive | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
methods. We're actually really leaves us with a limited choice | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
which many women might find the only methods they're able to get hold of. | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
What happens when you restrict women's choice? You take away | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
options from them? While all these new methods of contraception have | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
been developed, which have been so much more reliable, and given women | :24:31. | :24:37. | |
so much more reproductive control, if we remove those choices again, it | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
is an enormous step back woords and the steps forwards we made to help | :24:45. | :24:51. | |
women plan pregnancy at a time that's convenient for them will be | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
undone. If the cuts carry on at the rate we're seeing now, we will see | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
another escalation in teenage pregnancy, unplanned pregnancy and | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
abortion rates. I know what it is like not to get | :25:06. | :25:11. | |
the contraception you want. I went for my six to eight week check-up | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
and discovered that he didn't provide contraception at all and was | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
just kind of given a leaflet and shoved out the door. I was left | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
feeling stranded and alone and quite angry. My next option was to go to a | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
sexual health clinic, but I didn't get the chance to do that until five | :25:30. | :25:32. | |
months after the birth of my daughter. Trying to find a clinic | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
that worked for me was difficult. I had a C-section with my first child | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
and I want able to lift anything heavier than the baby. I had to | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
envisage a situation where I could get somewhere without having to lift | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
the buggy and fit with the opening hours and also it was drop-in. So it | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
was not knowing how long I was going to be there in a waiting room with a | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
young baby. So to go without contraception for into that period | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
meant it was more difficult in terms of me and my partner having the | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
intimacy that we fleetingly got to have with a five-month-old baby. We | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
take risks when choice is taken away from you. You don't like to say that | :26:16. | :26:22. | |
because you're trying to be conscientious with your health. I | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
have had sex and I have not had protected sex and I could have got | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
pregnant. It shouldn't be that hard to get the pill. A third of women | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
who need contraception live in an area now where services are | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
restricted in some way. Most women try very hard to avoid a | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
pregnancy. They use condoms or they use the pill, but there is nothing | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
they can do about a six-week wait to get the implant fitted or a coil | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
fitted and they feel quite helpless about it. How concerned are you | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
about the direction that this is going in? I'm really concerned. We | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
have spent years doing really good work. Contraception, sexual health, | :27:01. | :27:08. | |
all that, now but now with all the cuts what we're looking at is an | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
increase in unwanted pregnancies. Someone made an informed decision | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
that out of all these options I want to choose this, it is the duty of | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
the healthcare professional to support them in that choice, give | :27:22. | :27:24. | |
them as much information as they can to get on with that and when that | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
isn't happening, that's a failure. We did, of course, ask | :27:28. | :27:39. | |
the Department of Health to talk to us today, | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
but they said no. They did however tell | :27:43. | :27:44. | |
us that they believe, "Local areas are best placed | :27:45. | :27:46. | |
to decide how to provide the sexual health services | :27:47. | :27:48. | |
their communities need." If you want to read more about that | :27:49. | :27:50. | |
you can find an in depth article on the BBC News site | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
and you can find the full film on our programme | :27:54. | :27:56. | |
page bbc.co.uk/Victoria Debbie says, "Our NHS used to be | :27:57. | :28:04. | |
envied by the world. I'm disgusted this Government has allowed it to | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
fall apart and fail our people. Doctors, nurses, GPs being driven | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
away, not recognising just how precious they are. We see necessary | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
and valuable drugs being denied to women who need them. Now women are | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
losing choice over something so basic as contraception. ." We will | :28:25. | :28:32. | |
talk more about this in the second hour of the programme. Your | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
experiences are very welcome. Get in touch in the usual ways. | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
We talk to the makers of a new BBC Two programme, Muslims Like Us. | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
It's being billed as Big Brother for Muslims, | :28:46. | :28:47. | |
but critics say it could perpetuate negative stereotypes of Muslims. | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
And after carpool karaoke, Madonna has picked up an award | :28:51. | :29:03. | |
for Woman Of The Year and hit out at the sexism, misogyny | :29:04. | :29:06. | |
and ageism she says she's received in her career. | :29:07. | :29:14. | |
It's nearly half past nine. Time for a summary of the latest news with | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
Joanna. Good morning. Five former Football Association | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
chiefs have urged the Government to reform the structure | :29:23. | :29:24. | |
of the Football Association. They criticised its upper ranks | :29:25. | :29:26. | |
as being "out of balance" and filled David Bernstein, David Davies, | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
Greg Dyke, Alex Horne and David Triesman called | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
for legislation to be passed, blaming the FA's | :29:34. | :29:36. | |
"inability to reform". Six people have been arrested as | :29:37. | :29:46. | |
part of an ongoing investigation under terrorism legislation. | :29:47. | :29:55. | |
The prime minister is understood to be considering plans to allow | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
councils in England and Wales to increase council tax to fund | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
It follows warnings that the system could "topple at any moment" leading | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
to pressure on the NHS if patients cannot be released from hospital. | :30:06. | :30:07. | |
Local councils have suffered more than a 40% reduction | :30:08. | :30:09. | |
Officials in Nigeria say two young girls have been | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
At least one other person died in the attack in a packed | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
marketplace in Maiduguri which is situated in the north | :30:18. | :30:19. | |
Authorities described the girls as being 7 or 8 years old. | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
It's not known which group was behind the bombings. | :30:25. | :30:26. | |
But Boko Haram militants have carried out similar attacks before. | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
Many GPs in England have stopped providing some forms | :30:32. | :30:33. | |
of contraception because of funding cuts, this programme has learned. | :30:34. | :30:36. | |
Some clinicians have said cuts to contraceptive services | :30:37. | :30:38. | |
will mean "more unplanned pregnancies and abortions". | :30:39. | :30:43. | |
The Advisory Group on Contraception's research comes | :30:44. | :30:46. | |
after the Government announced public health cuts totalling more | :30:47. | :30:52. | |
The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has hit out over planned strikes | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
on Southern Rail that are set to cause travel chaos | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
Members of rail union Aslef have planned three days | :31:00. | :31:02. | |
of strikes this week - a move the Home Secretary called | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
The strikes will halt all Southern's services, | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
disrupting the 500,000 passengers who use the service every day. | :31:09. | :31:14. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
John Watson's here now with this morning's sports headlines. | :31:19. | :31:22. | |
England's struggles on their tour of India continues, as they lost by an | :31:23. | :31:31. | |
innings and 36 runs. The bottom order needed to show resistance, but | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
they lost their remaining four wickets in just over half an hour. | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
James Anderson was the last to go, and with him when the series. They | :31:39. | :31:44. | |
are 3-0 down with one Tester play. Chelsea have extended their winning | :31:45. | :31:47. | |
run to nine matches, top of the table after a 1-0 win over West | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
Brom. Yego Costa with the goal. He now has 12 for the season so far, | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
more than any other player in the Premier League. The draw for the | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
Champions League will be made at 11am with Arsenal, Manchester City | :32:01. | :32:03. | |
and Leicester all waiting to see who they will face in the knockout | :32:04. | :32:07. | |
stages, the final of which is to be played in Cardiff this year. And | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
Latvia have said they may pull out of the Skeleton and bobsleigh World | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
Championships next year unless Sochi are removed as hosts. It comes in | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
response to the details of that Russian state-sponsored doping | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
programme which came in the second part of Richard McLaren's report on | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
Friday. That is all the sport for now, plenty more for you later on. | :32:30. | :32:32. | |
Thank you very much. England's Football Association | :32:33. | :32:40. | |
is outdated, held back by "elderly white men" and unable to counter | :32:41. | :32:42. | |
the power of the Premier League, say five former executives | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
of the governing body. David Bernstein, David Davies, | :32:46. | :32:47. | |
Greg Dyke, Alex Horne and David Triesman say the FA has | :32:48. | :32:49. | |
failed to self-reform, and they describe their | :32:50. | :32:51. | |
decision-making structures We'll speak to two of those men | :32:52. | :32:53. | |
who've written to MPs But, of course, today's criticism | :32:54. | :33:01. | |
of the FA comes at a time when it's already under intense | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
pressure over the way it's handled historic allegations | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
of sex abuse in football - a story which has unfolded on this | :33:10. | :33:11. | |
programme over the last few month: The impact it has had on my life is | :33:12. | :33:21. | |
just catastrophic. I can't put into words what that has | :33:22. | :33:37. | |
done to me. But I felt that I needed to do this | :33:38. | :34:00. | |
so that other people will come out. You are through to the NSPCC advice | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
line, you are speaking to Sheila. Are you calling with concerns for | :34:05. | :34:07. | |
child? Both my parents have died, and that | :34:08. | :34:28. | |
hurts me. Not telling them. Does it? Yes, but I don't know if it is a | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
good thing that I didn't tell them, because they would have blamed | :34:34. | :34:34. | |
themselves, so... What we have got to do is make sure | :34:35. | :34:49. | |
those victims are supported, that this doesn't turn into an exercise | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
of football trying to protect its own reputation. | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
There is a lot of shame, a lot of guilt attached, a lot of confusion. | :35:01. | :35:11. | |
And like I say, it was just impossible at that time to come out, | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
just impossible. Everyone was kind of just naked and | :35:15. | :35:28. | |
would get thrown on this bed, a very quick massage. It was uncomfortable. | :35:29. | :35:38. | |
It's very, very wrong, for a start. I was tired because I had to be back | :35:39. | :35:45. | |
for school, so just lay your head in my lap, and he would be stroking my | :35:46. | :35:52. | |
head and that was when I started thinking that that was odd to me | :35:53. | :35:54. | |
that this was happening. When you signed that confidentiality | :35:55. | :36:15. | |
agreement, what were you thinking when they wanted you to keep quiet | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
about the abuse you have suffered? With the document, I was basically | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
pushed into a corner, and it was basically, there is the money, but | :36:27. | :36:29. | |
to have the money, you have to sign this. | :36:30. | :36:44. | |
Let's speak to David Bernstein who was FA chairman from 2011 to 2013, | :36:45. | :36:53. | |
and Greg Dyke who replaced him from then until earlier this year. They | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
have spoken to MPs calling for reform of the FA. Mr Bernstein, what | :36:58. | :37:05. | |
you want to see changed? First of all, this is something I have been | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
speaking about for three or four years, it is not something that has | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
just arisen. Greg will speak for himself, but I know he agrees, we | :37:14. | :37:20. | |
and David Triesman are all very independently of this same view that | :37:21. | :37:27. | |
the FA basically is antiquated, out of date, and not sufficiently | :37:28. | :37:35. | |
independent. What I want to see, the Parliamentary select committee have | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
said the same thing, changes to the FA shareholder base, which I could | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
explain, the FA Council, the FA board, the FA committees, and | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
perhaps later on I would like to see the direction of travel for money | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
that goes from the Premier League actually not to go directly from the | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
Premier League to the rest of the game, but for -- from the Premier | :37:55. | :38:01. | |
League to the FA to reform the FA, because I think it would remove part | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
of the Premier League's soft power that it has and exercises well, and | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
reinforce the power of the FA. We need an FA that can bring better | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
balance back into the niche game. Why didn't you do this when you were | :38:14. | :38:20. | |
chairman? As my predecessor or successor found out, it was | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
basically impossible. I did what I could, I did bring in some reform, I | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
did bring in some independent directors, including a woman, which | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
was some achievement, but beyond that, it is impossible. The | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
structure is resistant to change, and that has been made clear by the | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
select committee's initial report, which remember goes back for five | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
years, and from the letter they have just released. Greg Dyke, you left | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
the FA earlier this year after trying to change things, and | :38:53. | :38:59. | |
failing. All five of you would have fought against being subject to | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
legislation when you lead the organisation. Is it not hypocritical | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
for you to call the legislation now? I'm not sure I would have fought | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
against legislation. What I said was, let's try and reform this place | :39:13. | :39:15. | |
before the legislators have to do it, and in truth, I failed. I | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
couldn't get them to agree, this arcane system wants to carry on as | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
it is. And I think what this letter is really saying to the select | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
committee and to government is, if you want change, you are going to | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
have to do it, because if this organisation will not reform itself, | :39:37. | :39:39. | |
it is in desperate need of reform, and it won't do it. So don't do any | :39:40. | :39:44. | |
more reports saying we want this, we want that, and not doing anything | :39:45. | :39:52. | |
about it. In my time of chairman, two ministers of sport said to me, | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
if you don't change, we are going to change you, and I said, but nobody | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
believes you. And unless you give it some teeth and start to do it, they | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
don't believe you, so they will never reform. Right. Wider you say | :40:05. | :40:12. | |
it is in desperate need of reform? I invite you to go along to a meeting | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
of the FA Council, because it is like stepping back into the 1940s. | :40:17. | :40:23. | |
It is 120 people, overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly men... They | :40:24. | :40:30. | |
are not representative of greater society, but that doesn't tell us... | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
They fight to retain what is, because what is suits them, and in | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
no organisation does that make sense. In any organisation you have | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
to have a structure and a system which embraces change. The venue, | :40:46. | :40:52. | |
and from the council to the board, and the board, as my predecessor | :40:53. | :40:58. | |
just said, the board has a majority from either the national game or | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
from the rational side, and they together join up to make sure that | :41:04. | :41:10. | |
things that we wanted to do was stopped. And therefore it doesn't | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
make sense. What we were saying to Damian Collins, and I hope what he | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
will say when he comes on to your programme is that he will now take | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
some action and press the Government, and then the FA might | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
begin to reform itself, but at the moment, there is no chance. As you | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
say, we will talk to Mr Collins Injera is to moment. I want to move | :41:35. | :41:41. | |
on to historic sexual abuse, and also an FA government issue, the | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
issue of our time. Mr Bernstein, you were chairman of Manchester City | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
from 1984 to 2003, chairman of the FA from 2011 to 2013. Diddy issue of | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
sexual abuse in football ever cross your desk while you were in either | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
role? No, it didn't, it really, really didn't. And if it had done, I | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
would have taken it up and dealt with it. I commend what you have | :42:06. | :42:11. | |
done on this subject, it is awful, and this matter is under | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
investigation now and I hope the investigations are strong enough and | :42:16. | :42:19. | |
independent enough. Let me ask the same question to Mr Dyke... Sorry, | :42:20. | :42:29. | |
but what I would say is that if an organisation is modern, cutting-edge | :42:30. | :42:34. | |
and with a modern society, it is more likely to react to things like | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
this positively and less likely to sweep them under the carpet. We will | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
see what comes out of these investigations, but this and many | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
other issues go back over decades, and I believe would have been | :42:49. | :42:51. | |
treated more efficiently and in a more sympathetic way had the | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
organisations themselves been modernised. Right. Mr Dyke, Mr | :42:56. | :43:02. | |
Bernstein never heard anything about allegations of abuse. What about you | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
when you are in the top job? I have to say in the three years I was | :43:08. | :43:09. | |
chairman, it never came across my desk. What did come across my desk | :43:10. | :43:18. | |
was, were our processes effective? Most of the complaints I have heard | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
so far, most of the cases are historic cases, they are not modern | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
cases, and I think the FA staff have run quite an effective system in | :43:29. | :43:33. | |
recent years, but hopefully they will now set up an investigation | :43:34. | :43:36. | |
that looks at how effective is the existing system, and could that be | :43:37. | :43:45. | |
improved, because clearly that is the priority before we go back to | :43:46. | :43:48. | |
historic cases. I take your point that some of the cases are | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
historical. But I put it to you again, we now know nearly 100 clubs | :43:53. | :43:58. | |
have been named over 80 alleged abusers. Is it really feasible, is | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
this what you are telling the audience, is it really feasible that | :44:03. | :44:08. | |
the people at the top knew nothing? Absolutely. I assure you that was | :44:09. | :44:16. | |
the case. These questions need to be addressed to many others as well, to | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
the Premier League, to the football league, and also to the PFA. The PFA | :44:21. | :44:25. | |
is the players union, and you would have thought that would be the first | :44:26. | :44:28. | |
port of call that players would go to if they were in trouble, and I | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
would be fascinated to know how over 20 or 30 years, the PFA never seemed | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
to know about these things or react to these things. That would be the | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
first port of call, I would have thought. Mr Dyke? And the clubs, | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
they are the employer. The clubs employ these people. As I say, | :44:45. | :44:54. | |
certainly in my three years, this did not cross my desk. Unless it is | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
referred up to you as chairman, you are not likely to discover it | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
yourself unless somebody writes to you, and nobody wrote to me. Again, | :45:02. | :45:07. | |
it may not have crossed your desk, Mr Dyke. In the time when you were | :45:08. | :45:11. | |
chairman, Barnsley have confirmed they hired an Academy physio without | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
doing all the criminal record checks on him. So in your time as boss, | :45:16. | :45:25. | |
that was happening. We are not in charge of Barnsley. But you were the | :45:26. | :45:31. | |
top man running the FA! What is interesting to me seems to be first | :45:32. | :45:36. | |
of all you need an urgent checks, which is what the FA are doing, on | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
the processes that exist now and how effective they are. On the second | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
case, you then have to get into the historic cases. But I can only tell | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
you what happened. As the chairman of the FA, I really wouldn't have | :45:52. | :45:56. | |
known that Barnsley would have employed someone who hadn't passed | :45:57. | :45:58. | |
the checks. I made a mistake, it was in Mr | :45:59. | :46:13. | |
Bernstein's time. Those decisions are not referred up. Now, there | :46:14. | :46:21. | |
should be a checking system. Let's not kid ourselves, whatever you do, | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
you're going to avoid this happening on odd occasions. What you want to | :46:27. | :46:32. | |
know, it is not a systematic process, it is not systematically | :46:33. | :46:37. | |
happening as it seems to be in the 90s. Gagging clauses... Victoria, | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
coming back to the, sorry, coming back to the core issue here which is | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
the FA structural governance, you had an FA council, an FA board, an | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
FA shareholder base, all modernised and geared and more receptive to | :46:55. | :46:59. | |
these things, there is more likelihood the whole atmosphere | :47:00. | :47:02. | |
within the Football Association and within football generally would be | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
to take these things on board and maybe there would be less reluctance | :47:08. | :47:16. | |
- Greg is right, he and I, I certainly and he, I'm sure never had | :47:17. | :47:21. | |
these things put on our desks and we are both strong enough in | :47:22. | :47:23. | |
personalities, if we had done, we would have reacted to them. This | :47:24. | :47:30. | |
e-mail from Philippa, will nobody in FA management take responsibility. | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
"I do not believe these guests when they say they knew nothing about the | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
abuse. It is not credible." I can't do much about that. The answer is, | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
it was not, it did not, and I mean you also need to look at the | :47:47. | :47:49. | |
position of the media and everybody else involved in this because | :47:50. | :47:54. | |
actually it is Channel 4 did do a Dispatches back in the 1990s on this | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
and no one else followed it up. I mean, it is only the FA, this is a | :48:01. | :48:06. | |
societal thing of that time. What is essential to know is are the systems | :48:07. | :48:13. | |
today effective? Gagging clauses which I think was in your time as FA | :48:14. | :48:18. | |
chairman Mr Greg Dyke, did Chelsea break FA rules in your mind? I'm not | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
there now so I don't know what happened. I haven't seen a report. I | :48:23. | :48:28. | |
have only seen what's happened. What I do know is a lot of organisations | :48:29. | :48:37. | |
when they are historically when they have been given these issues have | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
not accepted liability, but paid compensation on the basis of a | :48:42. | :48:45. | |
gagging clause and that doesn't only happen, the BBC does it which I know | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
intimately. It doesn't mean to say you accept guilt, it means you | :48:51. | :48:54. | |
accept that there is a case and you wish to end the case. David | :48:55. | :49:01. | |
Bernstein, could you see a situation where a case involving sexual abuse | :49:02. | :49:05. | |
could be subject to a gagging clause? I don't know the answer to | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
that. It is something I can't answer. I don't know. | :49:10. | :49:16. | |
Should clubs face some sart of sanction if they're found to use | :49:17. | :49:23. | |
them? Neither David or I are in a position to know that. We haven't | :49:24. | :49:27. | |
seen all the details, but in the end the clubs are the employer. Not the | :49:28. | :49:32. | |
FA. And in the end, it is the employer who has the responsibility. | :49:33. | :49:40. | |
Could we go back to the wider issue? What I think is, that there is no | :49:41. | :49:47. | |
effective regulation in football. And I think you are only going to | :49:48. | :49:51. | |
get effective regulation if either the FA becomes more independent or | :49:52. | :49:57. | |
you have an outside regulator. OK. If you look at the Premier League, | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
the Premier League is 20 clubs, 20, what are now big businesses, coming | :50:04. | :50:07. | |
together to sell their rights together in a cartel. If you did | :50:08. | :50:11. | |
that in any other industry people would laugh at us. It is actually | :50:12. | :50:15. | |
quite effective in football, but you can only do it therefore if you have | :50:16. | :50:18. | |
an effective regulator as well because it is a cartel. OK, well I'm | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
sure the Premier League would reject that. | :50:24. | :50:29. | |
David yen Collins you received the letter. You're chair of the culture, | :50:30. | :50:33. | |
media, and sport Select Committee. The Premier League accused by Greg | :50:34. | :50:36. | |
Dyke there of operating like a cartel. What's your view? Well, the | :50:37. | :50:43. | |
former chairmen are right that the Premier League are incredibly | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
powerful and works strongly for the interest of its member clubs, but | :50:47. | :50:49. | |
the issue with English football as Greg Dyke said, there is no | :50:50. | :50:53. | |
effective regulator for English football. The FA doesn't have the | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
power to say there is an issue we're going to resolve, it doesn't matter | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
if it is a Premier League issue or conference issue, we are the | :51:03. | :51:04. | |
governing body and we have the final say. Would you back an external | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
regulator? The FA should be the regulator for English football. It | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
should be the governing body and have the powers and the independence | :51:12. | :51:15. | |
to regulate the whole of the game. But it doesn't have that. So would | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
you back an external force or not? What I'm proposing in response to | :51:21. | :51:24. | |
the letter we've received from David Bernstein and Greg Dyke and the | :51:25. | :51:30. | |
other former officials, we restrict ture the Football Association using | :51:31. | :51:33. | |
legislation in line of the recommendations made by the Select | :51:34. | :51:36. | |
Committee report. It would give the Chief Executive and the chairman of | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
the fae along with independent non-executive directors a majority | :51:42. | :51:50. | |
on the board so they could outvote the Premier League representatives | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
and behave like a governing body. You talk about legislation? What I | :51:54. | :51:58. | |
have asked the clerk ins Parliament is produce a Draft Bill which we'll | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
publish in the New Year and it is possible to create a Bill which can | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
legislate to change the rules of a private organisation like the | :52:06. | :52:07. | |
Football Association. So Parliament could pass a Bill that would | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
externally reform the constitution and the FA and we would leave it to | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
the FA to use the new powers to be an effective regulator for the game. | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
Is the FA a stagnant old boys club? Well, yes. It doesn't represent the | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
modern game. It doesn't represent the people that play the game today | :52:24. | :52:26. | |
and it is not effective at dealing with the challenges that face | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
football today. And I think that's why it needs to be totally reformed | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
and I think legislation is the only way it can be done. What is really | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
significant about the letter we received, David Bernstein and Greg | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
Dyke and David Davis, they have all appeared in front of the Select | :52:43. | :52:44. | |
Committee and they have been asked about reform and done their best to | :52:45. | :52:49. | |
achieve reform. Here we have senior figures from the football family | :52:50. | :52:52. | |
saying it cannot be done without legislation to drive through the | :52:53. | :52:55. | |
change. When you spock to us a couple of weeks ago, you told us | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
that you were concerned that the FA's internal inquiry into | :53:01. | :53:03. | |
allegations of sexual abuse in football was being run by a QC who | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
had worked with the FA previously. And you worried about her | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
independence. You also worried about whether they were going to publish | :53:11. | :53:13. | |
the findings of that I review. They have changed the QC and they say | :53:14. | :53:16. | |
they are committed to publishing it. Are you happy? Yes, I am. I think | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
the scope of the inquiry, it is better set-up and it is broader and | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
it has got the power to go into the clubs and investigate what went | :53:26. | :53:27. | |
wrong in the clubs which is conclusion. What I said to the FA, | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
the only grounds for not publishing anything within the report should be | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
the relegation of the police that doing so may compromise an open | :53:36. | :53:38. | |
investigation, but the FA shouldn't have the power to block any of it on | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
policy grounds or football maybe embarrassed. This has to be | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
completely transparent. By having a properly published report and a | :53:49. | :53:52. | |
proper debate, we can check it a make sure the current safeguarding | :53:53. | :54:04. | |
procedures are in place. Should the Scottish FA launch their inquiry? I | :54:05. | :54:08. | |
think so. I think all national governing bodies of sport should | :54:09. | :54:11. | |
behaving a serious look at their own sport because I don't believe this | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
is purely a football problem. It probably affected other sports too. | :54:17. | :54:19. | |
Football is a popular game that it is likely to involve more cases, but | :54:20. | :54:23. | |
there are safeguarding issues elsewhere. I have not seen any | :54:24. | :54:26. | |
evidence, but all sports should take this seriously. Thank you very much. | :54:27. | :54:31. | |
Damien Collins head of the culture rks maod, media and sport Select | :54:32. | :54:33. | |
Committee. Your views are welcome. Get in | :54:34. | :54:40. | |
touch. Madonna picks up an award | :54:41. | :54:44. | |
for Woman of the Year and hits out at the sexism, | :54:45. | :54:47. | |
misogyny and ageism she says she's These are the ?995 trousers | :54:48. | :54:50. | |
at the centre of a row This woman, the former | :54:51. | :55:00. | |
Education Secretary Nicky Morgan, criticised those leather trousers | :55:01. | :55:03. | |
saying they'd been "noticed and discussed" in local Tory circles | :55:04. | :55:06. | |
and that she didn't think she'd ever spent that much on anything apart | :55:07. | :55:12. | |
from her wedding dress. As a result of her comments on those | :55:13. | :55:17. | |
trousers, Nicky Morgan got dumped via text from a meeting | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
with Theresa May at Downing Street. And now it's being claimed that | :55:23. | :55:27. | |
after all that criticism - Nicky Morgan owns a handbag | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
worth ?950 anyway. Our political correspondent | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
Chris Mason is here. Right, where do you want to start | :55:36. | :55:55. | |
with this? Let's have a look at trouser texts that you have been | :55:56. | :56:01. | |
referring to. This refers to Amanda Wakeley designed bitter chocolate | :56:02. | :56:03. | |
leather trousers. They are the trousers that Theresa May was | :56:04. | :56:06. | |
photographed in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago. Prompted this | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
row over text message between Downing Street, Nicky Morgan, the | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
former Education Secretary and Alistair Birt a former minister was | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
involved in this. Here are the trouser texts. Let's look at them. | :56:20. | :56:25. | |
Alistair Birt and Nicky Morgan were at a meeting in Downing Street, but | :56:26. | :56:30. | |
at po thant Fiona Hill the joint Chief-of-Staff said to Alistair | :56:31. | :56:34. | |
Birt, "Don't bring that woman to Number Ten again." This after Nicky | :56:35. | :56:40. | |
Morgan had passed judgement on the foft those leather trousers saying | :56:41. | :56:44. | |
they did not pass the Loughborough market test! Loughborough the town | :56:45. | :56:47. | |
in the East Midlands that Nicky Morgan represents in Parliament. She | :56:48. | :56:54. | |
said she couldn't go out into Loughborough market wearing those | :56:55. | :56:59. | |
trousers people would think it was ridiculous she spent ?995 on the | :57:00. | :57:06. | |
trousers. If you pass comment on somebody's expensive clothes | :57:07. | :57:09. | |
somebody will find stuff that you bought that might be expensive. | :57:10. | :57:17. | |
Enter Nicky Morgan's brown leather Bays Water bag from a brand called | :57:18. | :57:26. | |
Mulberry! It cost yes, ?950, ?45 cheaper than the trousers! But still | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
about the same cost that I would have spent on a second-hand car! | :57:30. | :57:37. | |
I love the way you say bitter chocolate and the rest of us would | :57:38. | :57:43. | |
say brown! OK. Where are we in this row between Number Ten and Theresa | :57:44. | :57:49. | |
May's people, who protect her and surround her and the former | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
Education Secretary? I would like to tell you that this is a row that | :57:54. | :58:02. | |
groans with national input! Firstly, Nicky Morgan and Theresa | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
May, in case you hadn't guessed it, don't get on! They didn't really get | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
on when they were around the Cabinet table and since Nicky Morgan was | :58:11. | :58:13. | |
fired by Theresa May a couple of months ago, there have been plenty | :58:14. | :58:18. | |
of barbs coming from Nicky Morgan in the direction of Downing Street and | :58:19. | :58:22. | |
she said she is somebody who is willing to continue doing that and | :58:23. | :58:27. | |
put her head above the para pet. Some have criticised and regularly | :58:28. | :58:31. | |
criticised a sexist stint as they see it in the media to bang on and | :58:32. | :58:37. | |
on about bang Theresa May's clothes, but this was a photograph she sat | :58:38. | :58:40. | |
down to have taken by the Sunday Times. She wasn't snapped in her | :58:41. | :58:46. | |
constituency going to church by someone on a camera phone hiding in | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
the bushes! This was something prearranged. It is not just female | :58:51. | :58:56. | |
Prime Ministers who of pictures taken of them in clothing that | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
causes a remark. This is the former Prime Minister, also in the same | :59:01. | :59:08. | |
newspaper the Daily Mail wearing jazzy trunks. James our cameraman | :59:09. | :59:17. | |
has a pair of them. They feature a picture of a 1969 swimming pool at | :59:18. | :59:24. | |
the exclusive hotel Eden Rock in a chic French Mediterranean resort. So | :59:25. | :59:32. | |
it is not posh leather trousers or indeed posh Mulberry or whatever it | :59:33. | :59:38. | |
is bags, swimming trunks can feature too and why not? | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
Anyway, there is my pitch to be fashion editor. It is Mulberry, you | :59:44. | :59:50. | |
know that! Sales of those trunks are they going to go up or down as a | :59:51. | :59:54. | |
result of that photo of Mr Cameron? I wonder if those trousers will end | :59:55. | :59:59. | |
up in a charity shop in Maidenhead in the Prime Minister's | :00:00. | :00:03. | |
constituency. They may only be ?825 now! | :00:04. | :00:13. | |
Let's get the latest weather update with Carol. | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
We have had fog and frost. We've had a fair bit of rain around and there | :00:18. | :00:24. | |
is more rain to come too. So to show you a picture of what we've had, one | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
of our Weather Watchers sent this in from Lincolnshire. There is fog | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
across parts of Eastern England. If you're travelling on the M1 or A1 | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
bear that in mind. The fog will linger in the hills and | :00:37. | :00:58. | |
it will be fairly cloudy. We've got another weather front coming our way | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
aacross Western Scotland and Northern Ireland. So after a bright | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
start, the rain moves in. Some of it will be heavy through the day as it | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
will across the islands and Highlands of Scotland too, but | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
north-east Scotland seeing something brighter, not just now, but into the | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
afternoon. As we come south, there will be more cloud around and | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
splashes of rain. After a bright start in north-west England, the | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
rain moves up from the south-west towards the north-east. Not | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
particularly heavy, but it will be surrounded by murky conditions. Same | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
too across East Anglia, Kent and heading over towards the Home | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
Counties. Drifting further west, as the rain clears, it will brighten up | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
nicely across parts of Cornwall and Devon. We could see sunshine through | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
the afternoon, but for Wales, we will have the dank conditions, the | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
hill fog and also the drizzly bits and pieces moving north-east wards. | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
Pembrokeshire could see something brighter later. The rain clears | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
away, but the rain coming in from the west will be heavy as it crosses | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
parts of southern England and Wales. Tonight too, we could see patchy fog | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
reform, but not as widespread as or as dense as we had this morning. | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
Tomorrow the rain continues to journey eastwards clearing off into | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
the North Sea, but there will be a curl behind it across southern | :02:11. | :02:12. | |
England and Wales and that will produce spots of rain. Further | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
north, well, we are looking at brighter skies. Some fog around, it | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
could lift into low cloud. It will be swept away as we head on into | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
Wednesday as another weather front comes our way. That's going to brood | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
deuce more rain and just ahead of, there really isn't much in the way | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
of isobars and what we have are well spaced so that means it won't be | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
windy, but around the weather front it will be so. . So we have got rain | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
spreading in across Northern Ireland and Western Scotland, gusty winds. | :02:42. | :02:45. | |
Ahead of it for England and Wales and Eastern Scotland, a bright day, | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
with sunshine, temperatures not bad for this stage in December. Highs of | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
nine or ten to 13 Celsius as we sweep down towards the south. | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme. | :03:01. | :03:08. | |
This morning: Claims that abortion and unplanned pregnancies could rise | :03:09. | :03:10. | |
because of cuts in funding to the contraception GPs offer. | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
We've spent years doing really good work - | :03:14. | :03:15. | |
contraception, sexual health, all that. | :03:16. | :03:17. | |
But now, with all the cuts, what we're looking at now is | :03:18. | :03:19. | |
We're keen to hear your views on the contraceptive | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
Also on the programme: Two former heads of the FA tell us why it | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
What this letter is really saying to the select committee and to | :03:30. | :03:41. | |
Government is, if you want to change, you are going to have to do | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
it, because this organisation will not reform itself, it is in | :03:46. | :03:48. | |
desperate need of reform and it will not do it. The bosses also told us | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
that the issue of abuse in football never reach their desk when they | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
were in charge of the organisation. No, it didn't, it really didn't, and | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
I must tell you, if it had done, I would have taken it up and dealt | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
with it. Do let us know your views about what they told us this | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
morning. You can e-mail or get in touch on Twitter. | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
Plus BBC Two's new TV programme Muslims Like Us is being billed | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
as Big Brother for Muslims - but will it end up perpetuating | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
I'm your average, normal British Muslim person. | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
We're the majority, but our voice is the least heard. | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
We'll talk to the makers of the show. | :04:32. | :04:40. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
Five former Football Association chiefs have urged the Government | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
to reform the structure of the Football Association. | :04:52. | :04:53. | |
They criticised its upper ranks as being "out of balance" and filled | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
David Bernstein, David Davies, Greg Dyke, Alex Horne | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
and David Triesman called for legislation to be | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
passed, blaming the FA's "inability to reform". | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
Their concerns were set out in a letter to the Culture, | :05:06. | :05:07. | |
Its chairman says legislation is needed to turn the FA | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
The letter that was sent to the committee clearly | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
demonstrates the frustration of the former chairman of the FA | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
that they did not have the power to get through the full | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
that they wanted power and football is dominated by a series of vested | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
Six people have been arrested this morning on suspicion of offences | :05:28. | :05:33. | |
Four men from Derby, a woman from London and a man | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
from Burton-on-Trent are being held in police custody on suspicion | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
of preparing for an act of terrorism as part of an ongoing | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
Syrian activists say government forces have retaken another key | :05:44. | :05:52. | |
district of eastern Aleppo from the rebels, after a night | :05:53. | :05:54. | |
Forces loyal to President Assad now control the overwhelming | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
The advance comes less than 24 hours after rebels received a US-backed | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
proposal to leave Aleppo along with civilians, under safe passage | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
More than ten thousand civilians are reported to have fled Aleppo | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
Many GPs in England have stopped providing some forms | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
of contraception because of funding cuts, this programme has learned. | :06:16. | :06:17. | |
Some clinicians have said cuts to contraceptive services | :06:18. | :06:19. | |
will mean "more unplanned pregnancies and abortions". | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
The Advisory Group on Contraception's research comes | :06:22. | :06:23. | |
after the government announced public health cuts totalling more | :06:24. | :06:25. | |
The Home Secretary will lay an order in parliament to proscribe the right | :06:26. | :06:40. | |
wing group National Action, later this morning, to be debated | :06:41. | :06:42. | |
It would mean it would become a criminal offence to be a member | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
or to encourage support for the group. | :06:47. | :06:48. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :06:49. | :06:50. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
use the hashtag #Victorialive and if you text, you will be charged | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
E-mail from Janet on GPs cutting back injuries is on contraception | :07:00. | :07:08. | |
methods. Could I said jest to the young woman who holds the GB | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
responsible for the fact that she fell pregnant, she herself made a | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
choice, and there is another choice, not to be sexually active. Thank you | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
for this important issue and the other important issues you raise. | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
John Watson's here again now with more sport. | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
Not a great morning for Alastair Cook and his team, they have lost | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
the fourth match in Mumbai by one innings and 36 runs. The lower order | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
needed to show some resistance, but lost their remaining four wickets in | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
just over half an hour. James Anderson the last ago, and with when | :07:43. | :07:48. | |
the series. There are 3-0 down with one match left to play. The | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
performance has prodded some strong words from former captain Michael | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
Vaughan. The question would be to everyone who has been watching, have | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
they got better? Have they improved as a side, and I don't think they | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
have, and that is a real worry. The fact that they got 400 and could | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
still lose by an innings, last time they lost by eight wickets, the time | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
before 246 runs. When they lose, they get a hammering. Chelsea | :08:15. | :08:21. | |
extended their winning run to nine matches, Diego Costa with his 12th | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
goal of the season earning his side a 1-0 win over West Brom yesterday. | :08:27. | :08:29. | |
Manager Antonio Conte transforming the fortunes of the former | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
champions. It is brilliant in this moment, | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
because we won nine games in a row, and it is fantastic because this | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
league is very tough. A league with great difficulty, and to win nine | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
games in a row, it means that we are working very well. Liverpool are now | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
six points behind the league leaders after dropping points at home. | :08:54. | :09:02. | |
Liverpool managed to pull level when Origi equalised in the second half. | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
2-2 it finished, meaning West Ham are now out of the legation zone. | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
Jose Mourinho got the win he feels his side's recent performances | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
deserve as Manchester United beat Tottenham 1-0. Mkhitaryan with the | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
only goal of the game. United States sixth, and fifth placed Spurs are | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
now ten points off the top. Arsenal, Leicester and Manchester | :09:28. | :09:29. | |
city are waiting to learn who they will face the knockout stages of the | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
Champions League, the draw is being made in around an hour in | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
Switzerland. If any of the three can get there, they won't have to travel | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
far, because the final will be played in Cardiff's principality | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
Stadium in May. And Latvia have said they may boycott the bobsleigh and | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
Skeleton World Championships in Sochi next year unless the event is | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
moved. It comes in response to the second part of the McLaren report | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
which outlined the scale of state-sponsored doping in Russia. | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
Lizzy Yarnold, who won skeleton gold in Sochi at the winter Olympic Saint | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
2014, said she, too, may boycott the games unless a different city is | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
chosen. That is all your sportswear now, more at around half past. | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
Cheers, John. Welcome to the programme. | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
In the last year, we have reported what is happening in Aleppo | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
regularly in this programme. It has been described as a humanitarian | :10:28. | :10:28. | |
disaster. Now Syrian opposition activists say | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
government forces have retaken a key district in the east of Aleppo | :10:34. | :10:35. | |
from rebel fighters overnight. There are claims that rebel forces | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
are using civillians as "human shields", thousands have | :10:42. | :10:43. | |
fled their homes in recent days, those left behind face starvation | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
and a lack of medical People living in East Aleppo | :10:47. | :10:56. | |
are caught in a war between two broad groups: On one | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
side are the Syrian government forces and their allies - | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
which are mainly the Iranians and the Russians, and on the other | :11:05. | :11:06. | |
are the 900 or so jihadis from the al Nusra group - | :11:07. | :11:08. | |
which used to be part of Al Qaeda. It's incredibly difficult to speak | :11:09. | :11:11. | |
to residents inside Aleppo - but a couple of weeks ago we managed | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
that - and this is their story I'm an English teacher | :11:15. | :11:24. | |
at Aleppo high schools. I've been living here for about six | :11:25. | :11:35. | |
years, since the beginning Actually, no one can believe | :11:36. | :11:53. | |
the situation inside Aleppo. No one can imagine what | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
happens inside Aleppo. I'm married with three children, | :11:58. | :11:59. | |
two sons and a daughter. The aircraft just shell and shell | :12:00. | :12:13. | |
and shell, without stopping. And the artillery field | :12:14. | :12:25. | |
shell at the same place. Er, in Aleppo right now, 300,000 | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
living in a complete demolition... Every day, dozens | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
of people are dying. I might die just now | :12:34. | :12:49. | |
whilst speaking to you. People just sleep in the darkness | :12:50. | :13:00. | |
and wake up at the voice of the aircraft, at the voice of | :13:01. | :13:12. | |
the bomb, at the voice of missiles. Bombing and targeting | :13:13. | :13:19. | |
people, civilians. My house was targeted | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
and collapsed to the ground. People pulled out | :13:23. | :13:31. | |
from under the rubble. That was a miracle that | :13:32. | :13:40. | |
all of us survived. Sometimes we find people want a car, | :13:41. | :13:42. | |
want something to take dead body, dead sons, dead father, | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
in order to be buried. Even vehicles are not available | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
to bury their sons and their father. Our work seems to be | :13:49. | :14:06. | |
like a drop in the ocean. What can you do for those | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
people who starve? What can you do for those people | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
who are under the rubble? Hundreds and hundreds | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
under the rubble. Up to now there are 30 | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
people under the rubble that we couldn't do | :14:24. | :14:25. | |
for them anything. People who are being targeted | :14:26. | :14:33. | |
or being wounded, we don't know where to get them, | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
where to bring them. Just even the small medical | :14:36. | :14:37. | |
centres were completely The hospital right now is the most | :14:38. | :14:40. | |
dangerous place ever in Aleppo. After all the hospitals have been | :14:41. | :14:51. | |
destroyed and crushed. Civilians start to move in large | :14:52. | :15:05. | |
numbers towards the Kurdish area They are quite afraid | :15:06. | :15:07. | |
of more advances towards People who went to the regime | :15:08. | :15:15. | |
areas were all arrested. They arrested all men | :15:16. | :15:22. | |
between 18 and 42. They were taken to the intelligence | :15:23. | :15:39. | |
stations and are still trapped there, and they are going to be | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
investigated, one by one. Some families stay in their homes, and | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
they find themselves just in the hands of the regime. A lot of people | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
would prefer to defend their own land, and they are ready to | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
sacrifice their lives for their land, because they already know that | :15:59. | :16:05. | |
when the regime are getting closer to their areas, they will execute a | :16:06. | :16:06. | |
lot of people. The Russian government is seeing | :16:07. | :16:20. | |
some sort of political gap in America. We have seen some movement | :16:21. | :16:29. | |
between Barack Obama and the Trump, and there is some sort of political | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
space, so to speak, so they are doing that without any international | :16:34. | :16:41. | |
questioning or even in the midst of international silence, nobody is | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
doing anything towards what is happening in Aleppo. People believe | :16:45. | :16:55. | |
that the question of Aleppo and the civilians, and shelling the | :16:56. | :17:10. | |
civilians, it is not only a scheme that is written organised, not only | :17:11. | :17:21. | |
Tehran or Moscow, but also Western countries. The UN can do a lot for | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
the people here, the innocent people. They can make pressure on | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
Russia to stop the continual shelling and make a way out for | :17:32. | :17:33. | |
people here to go out. This is a shame of the world because | :17:34. | :17:47. | |
it is 2016 and people have been through this and suffered through | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
this and starving to death. That's the situation in Aleppo. | :17:52. | :17:59. | |
Separatley so-called Islamic State group fighters have re-entered | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
the ancient city of Palmyra, nine months after losing | :18:03. | :18:04. | |
This footage shows some of the devastating impact on the city. | :18:05. | :18:18. | |
Reporters believe IS appears to have taken advantage of the Government's | :18:19. | :18:25. | |
focus on Aleppo. We are going to try and talk now | :18:26. | :18:39. | |
live to a resident of Aleppo. An English teacher and Dr David | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
Knott a surgeon who worked in Aleppo and speaks to people there every | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
single day and professor of international relations from the | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
London School of Economics. Abdul, thank you very much for | :18:54. | :18:56. | |
talking to our British audience. What is it like in Aleppo right now? | :18:57. | :19:05. | |
Thank you very much, thank you for letting me go on air. I want to tell | :19:06. | :19:11. | |
you what's going on. Most people when they know I'm going to talk to | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
you, told me just to send this message - the situation inside | :19:18. | :19:23. | |
Aleppo is the doomsday. It is doomsday. It is literally the | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
doomsday. Just when I'm coming here to the internet centre, I have to | :19:30. | :19:36. | |
take maybe 15 minutes, it is so close to my house because bombs, | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
bombs are everywhere, people are running, they don't know where, just | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
running. Some people are injured in the streets. No one can go to help | :19:46. | :19:53. | |
them. Some of them, some people no one can help them. They just leave | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
them until they die under the rubble. These houses are their | :20:00. | :20:07. | |
graves. Bombs here. People don't know what to do. For me, I risk my | :20:08. | :20:16. | |
life. I risk my life to go out because it is so dangerous. No one | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
can move ten meters or 20 without having bombs close to them. Most | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
people don't have houses because all those people who moved from the | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
areas that were controlled by the regime, now they are in our areas. | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
It is so dangerous and the bombs are likely so they make huge numbers of | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
casualties and kill people. Have you seen in the last few days | :20:45. | :20:52. | |
and weeks any sign of aid agencies, of humanitarian workers, anybody, | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
has anybody been able to get to you to help you and your family? Sorry, | :20:57. | :21:05. | |
can you repeat your question? I might not get it. Have you seen any | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
aid agencies or any humanitarian workers who could help you, your | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
family, your neighbours? No one could care to come to help us. | :21:19. | :21:30. | |
Russian regime decided to exterminate parts of Aleppo. This is | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
the regime this. Is what some of them are telling us. So no one comes | :21:37. | :21:43. | |
there. No United Nations. No humanitarian agencies can come to | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
help us. All the night and in the morning my wife just has been crying | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
and she doesn't know what to say because it is dangerous. She is | :21:56. | :22:02. | |
always afraid. She is always scared. We don't know what to do, but I want | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
to have a comment about something in your report. You said that the | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
rebels make us as human shields. This is not true. A lot of people | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
who want to go to the regime areas are going there. Some people can go. | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
For me, I'm talking to you now, so this is a crime for the regime. I | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
will be arrested. I will be put in prison or I'm going to be killed | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
directly. I'm a civilian. I'm not a fighter of the it is a crime for a | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
regime A lot of people here who work as doctors and teachers and as | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
activists will be killed or arrested if they go to the regime. Even their | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
families are going to be killed or arrested. So we can go there. It is | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
not a matter of human shields at allment we don't want to go there. | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
We don't want to go to the regime areas. Yes, we might go to the | :22:54. | :23:00. | |
countryside but the regime, it is another kind of death. I understand. | :23:01. | :23:07. | |
I'm going to introduce to Dr David Knott who is a surgeon who worked in | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
Aleppo. Talk to Abdul. Abdul, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. I | :23:13. | :23:18. | |
have been on the whatsapp and various messages to your colleagues | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
there, all the doctors, I regularly speak to them every single day and | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
we're trying our very, very best because they also will be looked on | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
as terrorists and they also don't want to go into the regime areas. | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
And what we are trying to do is to try and create a ceasefire between | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
the Russians and the Syrian regime and I know the armed operating | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
groups there have agreed to a ceasefire, but at the moment the | :23:45. | :23:47. | |
British Government and everybody are trying their very, very hardest to | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
try and create a ceasefire. That is the most important thing that we're | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
trying to do at this present time. We hope that, really, we hope to | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
have a ceasefire soon because most people now are dying here... Those | :24:01. | :24:11. | |
people who are dying here now don't have a chance to go out and to treat | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
their injuries. Of course, no hospitalses awe know, all the | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
hospitals were detroud. We might have now a ceasefire just to help | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
those people. At least some people in the rubble, we want to take them | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
out and put them this their graves of the it is catastrophic. It is | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
really catastrophic, it might be one of the worst human situations in the | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
new history. Would you agree with that? Without a dausmt they are in | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
an area by ten kill old terse by ten kilometres and there is 50,000 in | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
that area. We have got children ready to go and patients ready to | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
go, we have got everybody waiting to get out. The UN are surrounding the | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
areas with their vehicles, but the shelling is so intense that nobody | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
can move and if you do go outside, you have the problem of being killed | :25:08. | :25:13. | |
and this morning there were women and children killed on the road. The | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
big issue is somehow, somehow, the Russians and the Syrian regime need | :25:19. | :25:22. | |
to stop bombing to get the civilians out and that's what we're trying. | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
This is not going happen. What, the ceasefire is not going to happen? | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
The ceasefire has been on the table for a week. The Russians and the | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
Syrian Army and their allies are trying to do really squeeze the | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
rebels. It is to really bleed the rebels, is to really increase the | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
costs for eastern Aleppo. Aleppo has fallen. The regime now controls | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
almost more than 90%. You have today, last night and today, they | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
captured the neighbourhood which is the nerve centre of the rebels. So | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
with the Syrian Army and its allies are trying to force the rebels to | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
surrender, they are not going accept any ceasefire. They want to dictate | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
saying the rebels are going to leave and that's why the pressure, the | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
ceasefire is not going to happen, unless there is an agreement for the | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
rebel to exit eastern Aleppo and who is paying the price? The civilians. | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
It is a hellish situation on earth for the civilians. You have 150,000 | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
civilians in the eastern part in 10% eastern Aleppo. Last week, we were | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
able to negotiate with the Russians to get a road up from east Aleppo, | :26:32. | :26:38. | |
through west Aleppo, up to another area. The road, they agreed and | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
everybody agreed that was the way the teachers, the professionals and | :26:44. | :26:46. | |
the doctors could get out, plus the patients. But the shelling just | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
won't stop. What's happening is you have between 30,000 and 50,000 | :26:53. | :26:58. | |
civilians who have been able to leave eastern Aleppo, what do you do | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
when you have 100,000 who don't want to leave? You have a major segment | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
of the population who are terrified to go to the western part that's | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
controlled by got and the reality is the Americans and the western powers | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
on the one hand and Russia are negotiating a way out. So far, there | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
is no deal. And that's why in the past 24 hours the Syrian Army and | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
its allies have made major inroads into the 10% of eastern Aleppo. | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
Almost 1,000 rebels had to surrender and who knows what's going to happen | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
to them according to Russia? The next 48 hours or two or three days | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
are pivotal, not only deciding the future of the 5,000 rebels, deciding | :27:39. | :27:45. | |
the future of the people who remain in eastern Aleppo. Abdul, we are | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
particularly grateful to you for talking to us. Talking to our | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
British audience when things are so dangerous there. Thank you very much | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
for your time, Abdul. Thaumpbleghts. | :27:58. | :28:05. | |
Professor thank you, and Dr David Knott, thank you. This tweet from | :28:06. | :28:13. | |
Michelle, "No help, no humanitarian aid, no one seems tb able to help | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
them." Another tweet, "Future generations will ask what did you do | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
during the massacre in Syria?" Some of the description from Abdul, you | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
know, he said the bombs were like rain. He talked about his wife not | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
being able to stop crying. He was frantic. He was scared. He was | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
desperate and we await to see if there will be a ceasefire. | :28:36. | :28:56. | |
A former youth player at Chelsea, where owe Gradi was assistant | :28:57. | :29:04. | |
manager says he was assaulted by Eddie Heath's the club's chief scout | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
when the boy was 15. Heath who has since died has been accused of | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
several people of abuse in the 70s and 80s, Crewe have yet to speak | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
publicly about Dario Gradi's statement. John Bowler faced | :29:21. | :29:29. | |
questions from journalists. Was it you or the FA that suspended Dario | :29:30. | :29:41. | |
Gradi? I will be putting out a statement later on. We have had a | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
statement from Crewe Alexandra. "Following discussions with the | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
Football Association Crewe can confirm that Dario Gradi is under an | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
FA interim suspension." That's it. That's the length and breadth of the | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
statement from Crewe. Following discussion with the Football | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
Association, Crewe can confirm that Dario Gradi is currently under an FA | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
interim suspension. Dario Gradi, Director of Football and before | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
that, manager, of course as you know for many years. Let's talk to | :30:12. | :30:15. | |
Richard Conway who is at Wembley. Tell us more. | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
A-short statement from Crewe. Just confirming what we have been | :30:23. | :30:31. | |
reporting for around 24 hours that Dario Gradi has been suspended. The | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
FA have taken this action against Dario Gradi. Given the | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
circumstances, surrounding Crewe Alexandra, it is one they clearly | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
have gone. Nothing from the FA themselves on this, but confirmation | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
coming from Crewe. Last week, we should say, there were reports in | :30:51. | :30:55. | |
the Independent newspaper, that Dario Gradi was when employed by | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
xhles in the 1970s involved in smoothing over a complaint of | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
inappropriate behaviour towards a young player who was with Chelsea at | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
the time. Now, it is reported again that that may have prompted action | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
from the FA against Dario Gradi, but we simply do not know at this stage | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
because we don't have information from the FA or from Crewe | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
themselves, just that very brief statement saying that he has been | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
suspended pending this ongoing investigation. Cheers, Richard. | :31:30. | :31:31. | |
Richard Conway at Wembley. Joanna is in the BBC | :31:32. | :31:41. | |
Newsroom with a summary Five former Football Association | :31:42. | :31:44. | |
chiefs have urged the Government Grundy denies any wrongdoing, and | :31:45. | :31:54. | |
says he will assist with the FA's review. | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
Five former Football Association chiefs have urged the Government | :32:00. | :32:01. | |
to reform the structure of the Football Association. | :32:02. | :32:03. | |
They criticised its upper ranks as being "out of balance" and filled | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
David Bernstein, David Davies, Greg Dyke, Alex Horne | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
and David Triesman called for legislation to be | :32:11. | :32:12. | |
passed, blaming the FA's "inability to reform". | :32:13. | :32:18. | |
Six people have been arrested this morning on suspicion of offences | :32:19. | :32:21. | |
Four men from Derby, a woman from London and a man | :32:22. | :32:25. | |
from Burton-on-Trent are being held in police custody on suspicion | :32:26. | :32:27. | |
of preparing for an act of terrorism as part of an ongoing | :32:28. | :32:30. | |
The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has hit out over planned strikes | :32:31. | :32:40. | |
on Southern Rail that are set to cause travel chaos | :32:41. | :32:42. | |
Members of rail union Aslef have planned three days | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
of strikes this week - a move the Home Secretary called | :32:46. | :32:48. | |
The strikes will halt all Southern's services, | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
disrupting the 500,000 passengers who use the service every day. | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
John Watson's here now with this morning's sports headlines. | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
Thank you. England's struggles on their tour of India continue as they | :33:04. | :33:11. | |
lost the fourth test by one innings and 36 runs. To stand any chance of | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
forcing a draw, their bottom order needed to show some resistance this | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
morning, but they lost their remaining four wickets in just over | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
half an hour. James Anderson was last ago, and with him when the | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
series, meaning they are now 3-0 down with one match left to play. | :33:27. | :33:30. | |
Chelsea have extended their winning run in the Premier League to nine | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
matches after a 1-0 win over West Brom. Diego Costa with the only goal | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
of the game. He now has 12 for the season, more than any other player | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
in the league. The draw for the Champions League will be made at 11 | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
o'clock, with Arsenal Manchester City and Leicester all waited to see | :33:47. | :33:49. | |
who they will face in the knockout stages, the final of which is to be | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
played with Cardiff's With the polity Stadium. And Latvia have said | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
they may well Paul Aiton of the bobsleigh World Championships next | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
year unless Sochi are removed as hosts. This is in response to the | :34:04. | :34:11. | |
report on the state-sponsored doping system run by Russia according to | :34:12. | :34:14. | |
the McLaren report in 2011 for a four-year period. And that is all | :34:15. | :34:20. | |
your sportswear now. Plenty more on BBC news throughout the day. Thank | :34:21. | :34:26. | |
you very much. Condoms, combined pill, | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
progesterone pill, implant, injection, hormonal coil, | :34:31. | :34:31. | |
copper coil, diaphragm, cap, female condoms, | :34:32. | :34:33. | |
patch, vaginal ring, female sterilisation, | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
male sterilisation, fertility awareness - | :34:36. | :34:37. | |
these are the 15 types of contraception that | :34:38. | :34:40. | |
all Gps should provide. But this programme has discovered | :34:41. | :34:47. | |
that some GPs have stopped providing And clinicians are warning it | :34:48. | :34:49. | |
could lead to a rise in abortions A survey of GPs from the family | :34:50. | :35:00. | |
planning Association suggests only 2% offer the full range of | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
contraceptive methods. 53% don't have enough time to give women all | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
the information they need, and 23% won't offer the contraceptive | :35:09. | :35:09. | |
implant. Let's speak now to GP | :35:10. | :35:16. | |
Anne Connolly who is a member of the Advisory Group | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
on Contraception Laura Russell, from And Shelly Raine - a nurse, | :35:20. | :35:21. | |
specializing in contraception and who now trains nurses | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
in the field. Good morning to all of you. Why does | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
this matter? We have seen fantastic reductions in teen pregnancy over | :35:29. | :35:34. | |
the last ten years, and one of the major point about that, one of the | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
major factors in that has been improved education in primary-care, | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
to the contraceptive services. A lot of extra training, but particularly | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
a focus on the much more reliable, much more cost efficient long-acting | :35:48. | :35:53. | |
reversible methods. What is a long acting reversible method? Anything | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
that a user doesn't have to take every day or to use during the | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
actual act of sex. So, the implant, the coil, the injection, what we | :36:06. | :36:10. | |
call the fit and forget methods, so once they are there, they will not | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
fail. But it is rare for a woman not to be able to get hold of | :36:15. | :36:23. | |
contraception. ? It is becoming more difficult, and fundamentally it is | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
about choice for women. When women can choose which contraception to | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
use, they are more likely to use it consistently and correctly. Do you | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
need a choice of 15? Or 15? As we heard in your film earlier, some | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
methods work more effectively for different women, and if you don't | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
have the choice available, you may not find the one that is right for | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
you, and when you consider that women spend around 30 years either | :36:48. | :36:54. | |
planning or preventing pregnancy throughout their lifetime, choice is | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
really important. Shelley, you are a nurse specialising in this area. | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
What problems are you seeing because of cuts? We are getting more | :37:02. | :37:07. | |
pressure on the clinics and nurses in particular, and we are finding | :37:08. | :37:10. | |
that women are coming to ask, there is reduced access to appointments, | :37:11. | :37:17. | |
reduced choice as we have heard, nurses are under increasing pressure | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
to take on a lot of the workload as staff are leaving, they are having | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
to see more patients in less time, and we are frustrated that we can't | :37:30. | :37:32. | |
give the kind of service that we would like and should be able to | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
give to winning, and if women's choice is reduced, then this is | :37:38. | :37:42. | |
going to have a long-term effect. In what respect? Your film showed | :37:43. | :37:49. | |
earlier that people are concerned about possible increases in | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
unplanned pregnancies. If women have a less effective method, then if | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
they have problems with a method and they can't get access to a clinician | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
for help or support to either carry on with the same method or change to | :38:05. | :38:08. | |
another method, then people are going to take risks, and that is the | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
reality of the situation, and we don't want that to happen. We have | :38:15. | :38:21. | |
had some viewers saying that women cannot hold partly responsible GPs | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
for an unplanned pregnancy, that is just ridiculous. Would you accept | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
that? I think we as GPs need to be able to advise women on all of the | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
methods and support them with their choices. But in the end it is down | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
to the individual to protect themselves? It is, but they can only | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
do that if they are aware that they have these options. Really the women | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
that are struggling most with all these cuts, particularly around | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
access to the specialist services or to primary-care are women who are | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
already most vulnerable. So we are particularly seeing the young women, | :38:56. | :38:58. | |
their services were cut so they don't even know there is an option. | :38:59. | :39:18. | |
their services were cut so they need to be a bore to support most, | :39:19. | :39:20. | |
because they are the most vulnerable, and they are the women | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
struggling to access contraception. And your group is partly funded by | :39:28. | :39:30. | |
drugs company, is that correct? It gets support for it, but those of us | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
who attend meetings do that involuntarily in our own time. So | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
you would say it would be unfair if someone accused you of pushing this | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
because you are partly funded by drugs company? I would be | :39:46. | :39:52. | |
disappointed if any body for -- if anybody felt that, because we have | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
been pushing the importance of this for women. So is this a message to | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
local authorities as to whether allocate their fund, or to | :40:02. | :40:07. | |
Government? Local authorities and GPs are facing increasing strain, so | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
this is a message to Government. The funding system is so complex and | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
fractured, it makes it really difficult, and there doesn't seem to | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
be significant oversight from any particular body of government, and | :40:19. | :40:20. | |
that is an important issue that needs to be addressed. A final | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
thought from you if I may. If a woman is not getting the choice she | :40:26. | :40:28. | |
thinks she should be offered, what should she? It is a case of shopping | :40:29. | :40:41. | |
around. Women can look to where there are clinics local to them, | :40:42. | :40:48. | |
they can contact reproductive health centres, they may get some | :40:49. | :40:50. | |
information there to really find where services are locally, because | :40:51. | :40:52. | |
that is the message we get when women come to us, that sometimes | :40:53. | :40:55. | |
they have had to wait, have to or three visits to be able to access | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
one of the more effective methods that they actually want to use when | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
they do know about them. Thank you all very much. FDA also has a | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
contraception tool that takes into account your physical needs and | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
personal preferences, and that will help you decide, Si Woo Kim print | :41:15. | :41:17. | |
out the survey and take it to your GP. Thank you all very much. -- so | :41:18. | :41:24. | |
you can print it out. The Department of Health didn't want to talk to us | :41:25. | :41:26. | |
today. They did however tell | :41:27. | :41:28. | |
us that they believe, "Local areas are best placed | :41:29. | :41:30. | |
to decide how to provide the sexual health services | :41:31. | :41:33. | |
their communities need." A group of EU nationals living | :41:34. | :41:35. | |
in the UK want Downing Street to assure them they'll be able | :41:36. | :41:38. | |
to stay in the UK after Brexit. They want a guarantee before | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
Article 50 is triggered. Sunder Katwala is director | :41:42. | :41:47. | |
for British Future, the independent In our Westminster studio | :41:48. | :41:54. | |
is the former leader In Cambridge is Jakub Nagrodski, | :41:55. | :42:03. | |
who's a student who moved And Anne-Laure Donskoy moved | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
here from France nearly 30 years ago Welcome to all of you. Tell us more | :42:09. | :42:19. | |
about the recommendations you have come up with. We brought together | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
people from both sides of the referendum. We found that we could | :42:24. | :42:33. | |
agree that it is the right thing to do that people who live here can | :42:34. | :42:42. | |
stay, and secondly, we need a practical plan to do this well. This | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
is one of the biggest things the British Government has ever done, | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
sofa two thirds of people who have been here for five years, they | :42:51. | :42:52. | |
should be able to apply locally, check if they are on the tax | :42:53. | :42:54. | |
records, get the green light very simply. And after that? After that | :42:55. | :42:56. | |
you would have a process to check the different groups. Everybody who | :42:57. | :42:58. | |
was here before the referendum or up to the article 50 date, because you | :42:59. | :43:00. | |
need a safe legal moment, should get it guaranteed right to settle. | :43:01. | :43:03. | |
People coming after that, that will depend on the new immigration rules | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
we make, and you come with your eyes wide open, people who he already did | :43:09. | :43:12. | |
not know this was going to happen. Lord Pearson, would you agree with | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
that? Of course I agree that the European nationals living here | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
should be allowed to stay, I agree completely about that. But the | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
problem is that as I understand it, the British Government about a | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
fortnight ago did offer the European Union to allow all of the 3 million | :43:33. | :43:40. | |
EU citizens living here to stay here provided our 1.2 million citizens | :43:41. | :43:51. | |
who are living there could also be guaranteed residency, and the | :43:52. | :43:53. | |
problem is that Mrs Merkel and Donald Tusk turned that down. 20 | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
countries wanted to accept it, but they turned it down as usual because | :43:59. | :44:04. | |
they don't give a down about the people who unfortunately suffer | :44:05. | :44:06. | |
under their crazy project of European integration. They are only | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
interested in keeping the wretched thing alive, and all the EU has to | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
do is to accept the offer that was made, which is very much more to | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
their advantage than ours, because they have three million people | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
living here and we have 1 million people living there, and then this | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
would go away, so don't blame the Government, blame, as usual, | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
Brussels. Are you even bothered about blaming anybody? I am | :44:36. | :44:38. | |
interested about how you feel about your status right now. Good morning, | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
thank you for having me on your programme. The way that the 3 | :44:44. | :44:49. | |
million feel today, there is hope in this report, hope that our status | :44:50. | :45:00. | |
will be settled sooner rather than later, because there is so much | :45:01. | :45:01. | |
anxiety currently amongst our members. People do not want to be | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
treated as bargaining chips. We are people who are just trying to lead | :45:05. | :45:07. | |
ordinary lives just like anybody else. Jakub, what about your own | :45:08. | :45:19. | |
feelings? Good morning. I agree there is so much anxiety in the | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
population of EU nationals living in the UK right now, that this has to | :45:24. | :45:26. | |
be settled very quickly, and we would like some sort of guarantee | :45:27. | :45:31. | |
that we would not only be able to stay, but for myself and my friends | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
as students, we would also like a guarantee that we would be able to | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
continue our university courses under the same conditions as we | :45:41. | :45:47. | |
applied under, as well as our career prospects will be protected. I | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
wonder if you accept Lord Pearson's went, that we need a guarantee about | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
the 3 million nationals all swear. We think the British government has | :45:59. | :46:04. | |
the ability to do that. In it irrespective of what Angela Merkel | :46:05. | :46:12. | |
and Donald Tusk are saying? If the Government insist on doing it both | :46:13. | :46:15. | |
ways, let's hope they can do it as quickly as possible. Lord Pearson | :46:16. | :46:21. | |
said 20 governments agree already, I wish they would just say in public | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
we are going to sort this out. The Polish Prime Minister came to London | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
and said nobody wants to feel they are hostages in this negotiation, | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
and we should be clear that the first thing we are going to do post | :46:34. | :46:36. | |
Brexit, we should do it well and do it properly. Thank you all very much | :46:37. | :46:43. | |
for your time. It's been described | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
as Big Brother for Muslims - ten British Muslims in a Georgian | :46:49. | :46:50. | |
house in York filmed living together The first of two programmes called | :46:51. | :47:05. | |
Muslims Like Us goes out The ten include a man who announces | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
to the group he's gay, and a former boxer, a convicted | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
fraudster who has openly supported On the surface, Britain's 2.7 | :47:15. | :47:16. | |
million Muslims are united in faith. But behind closed doors, | :47:17. | :47:45. | |
in Muslim homes across the country, there's a struggle to define | :47:46. | :47:47. | |
what makes a good Muslim. Muslims judge each other too much | :47:48. | :47:55. | |
and hold each other to these I want the foundations of Islam laid | :47:56. | :47:58. | |
out so that Muslims will be happy to say, "I am | :47:59. | :48:09. | |
a fundamentalist Muslim". This religion is betrayed | :48:10. | :48:11. | |
by the whole world. Because they are not | :48:12. | :48:13. | |
applying it properly. Now, ten Muslims from across Britain | :48:14. | :48:19. | |
will live under one I've never heard so much | :48:20. | :48:22. | |
emphasis on heaven and hell. Don't tell me what I can talk about. | :48:23. | :48:29. | |
Go start with someone else. Can we ten people come together | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
and understand each other? ..to work out who embodies | :48:33. | :48:35. | |
the spirit of Islam... We have huge amounts | :48:36. | :48:41. | |
of racism and anti-blackness We really struggled | :48:42. | :48:43. | |
with looking at our own flaws ..what being a Muslim | :48:44. | :48:54. | |
really means... When I say Allahu akbar, those | :48:55. | :49:02. | |
are the best minutes of my life. ..and how that fits | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
with modern Britain. Muslims need to integrate | :49:06. | :49:07. | |
more for their own sake. You must be where you are. | :49:08. | :49:09. | |
Fully. I'm a Muslim, in case | :49:10. | :49:12. | |
you didn't know. Are you? | :49:13. | :49:14. | |
I'm part of the EDL. I run the EDL. Oh, really? | :49:15. | :49:16. | |
Give me a hug, then. Here one of the women in the house - | :49:17. | :49:18. | |
Mehreen Baig explains why she feels her voice as a liberal | :49:19. | :49:29. | |
Muslim woman isn't heard enough. Growing up, I wasn't the most | :49:30. | :49:45. | |
attractive child. I had a very, very big monobrow and a moustache and | :49:46. | :49:55. | |
beard. In Year ten I was allowed to remove my beard and get my eyebrows | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
done and I actually looked pretty. A lot of Muslim people have a warped | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
view. They think I'm the Muslim girl gone bad. That my religion is a | :50:05. | :50:10. | |
very, very, important part to me. I pray every single day. I'm your | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
average, normal British Muslim person. In the majority, but our | :50:16. | :50:21. | |
voice is the least heard. Let's talk to Kieran Smith | :50:22. | :50:28. | |
who is Factual Director They developed the series | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
and have also produced other programmes Benefits Street | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
and Make Bradford British and Bake In Salford is Mobeen Azhar | :50:39. | :50:41. | |
who is the Series Producer who was responsible for amongst | :50:42. | :50:44. | |
other things, casting And also in Salford is one | :50:45. | :50:46. | |
of the participants of the show, Mehreen Baig who we just heard | :50:47. | :50:50. | |
from in that clip. Also here actress and writer | :50:51. | :50:52. | |
Ambreen Razia, who is worried about some aspects of the series | :50:53. | :50:55. | |
and journalist Shaheen Sattar who fears it will compound negative | :50:56. | :50:57. | |
stereotypes of Muslims. Welcome all of you. | :50:58. | :51:13. | |
There is criticism of one particular housemate, Abdul, a former member of | :51:14. | :51:18. | |
the inner circle of the hate preacher Anjem Choudary. He | :51:19. | :51:26. | |
expressed support for Islamic State and the criticism is you shouldn't | :51:27. | :51:32. | |
be giving airtime to him It is important to discuss a range of | :51:33. | :51:36. | |
views and to have representation from across the Muslim community. He | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
is one of ten contributors and his views are robustly challenged. There | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
is a lot of value because quite often I'm part of the Muslim | :51:44. | :51:47. | |
community and quite often I hear this argument that Muslims need to | :51:48. | :51:53. | |
do more to dissect and to disagree with and to distance themselves from | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
particular views. Over the course of two hours, we see that happening for | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
real and I for one think that's really valuable. | :52:02. | :52:07. | |
I wonder if you would like to talk to Kieran who is next to you. I have | :52:08. | :52:18. | |
only seen the first one. I would just say that I think just giving | :52:19. | :52:25. | |
someone that kind of platform is, for me, it is quite scary, I think. | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
I think because you know, having been, you know, a writer and actress | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
and writing shows which essentially are trying to break stereotypes of | :52:35. | :52:40. | |
Muslim people, for me I just feel like it reinforces that again. And I | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
just think that this sort of, the views that he has, are so extreme | :52:45. | :52:51. | |
and we already have those labels as Muslim people, extremists, | :52:52. | :52:54. | |
terrorists and I don't know whether this is doing anything to counteract | :52:55. | :53:00. | |
that. Could I ask what you mean when you said, "That kind of platform?" | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
With the BBC he has been given an opportunity to express his views on | :53:06. | :53:09. | |
television. Are you suggesting it would be better to pretend these | :53:10. | :53:13. | |
people don't exist? Because once again, as someone who is very rooted | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
in the Muslim community I would say, these views are out there. They are | :53:18. | :53:26. | |
in our communities and surely we can't pretend those people don't | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
exist? They are out there, but putting the spotlight on t I don't | :53:31. | :53:33. | |
think it necessarily helps. I think we know it's out there. It has been | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
highlighted in many ways. One of the things that we really wanted to do | :53:39. | :53:44. | |
with Muslims Like Us is showing the pluralism within the Muslim | :53:45. | :53:48. | |
community and show the diversity and what you'll notice is once you start | :53:49. | :53:54. | |
watching the programme, yes, at the moment all the attention seems to be | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
on Abdul, the other nine contributors in the house very | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
quickly start actually confronting him about his opinions and about his | :54:04. | :54:13. | |
views and really what I think is really important, Muslim society is | :54:14. | :54:19. | |
not monolithic. We tend to only show one side of the Muslim community and | :54:20. | :54:26. | |
that tends to be about extremism and fundalmentalism and we show a broad | :54:27. | :54:29. | |
range of opinion within the various Muslim communities. | :54:30. | :54:39. | |
We can't be delusional and say that people, with these extremist | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
opinions don't exist within the community, but I think we need to | :54:43. | :54:46. | |
look at the consequences of the show, we can see the extremists, the | :54:47. | :54:51. | |
fundamentalist has been given considerable mead why attention and | :54:52. | :54:56. | |
maybe to think about whether this exacerbates the situation, whether | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
it exacerbates the stereo time. It is great to report negativity. | :55:01. | :55:08. | |
Respond to that. Yes, I think it is a shame in one way that the media | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
has focussed on Abdul... But come oranges you're experienced, you knew | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
that was going to happen. Of course I understood that might happen and | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
what I'm hoping and we're talking about a programme that no one has | :55:24. | :55:28. | |
seen yet, I'm hoping once people see the programme they realise we worked | :55:29. | :55:33. | |
hard to show a range of opinions within the Muslim communities. One | :55:34. | :55:37. | |
of the first scenes that people will see tonight in the house is Abdul | :55:38. | :55:45. | |
handing you a leaflet, a hand-out which talks about his desire that | :55:46. | :55:48. | |
there shouldn't be free mixing in the house. Tell our audience how you | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
handle that? I wouldn't like to ruin it for everyone. OK, sorry. But | :55:55. | :56:00. | |
firstly I'd like to say I think everyone raises a valid point. It is | :56:01. | :56:05. | |
correct that there has been a massive, there has been a lot of | :56:06. | :56:10. | |
media attention on Abdul so far. Are we just promoting the stereotype? | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
That was one of the things I was ap prehencive about before joining the | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
show. I thought are we going to be adding to the negative | :56:21. | :56:23. | |
characterisation of Muslims that already exists in society? However, | :56:24. | :56:26. | |
we have got to remember we are talking about a show that we have | :56:27. | :56:30. | |
not seen yet and it is very important to stress that there are | :56:31. | :56:36. | |
nine other contributors as well as Abdul could WHO do not display | :56:37. | :56:41. | |
extremist values and we mustn't let those people go ignored and I think | :56:42. | :56:46. | |
once you have seen the show today and tomorrow, it will become very | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
evident that having Abdul's opinions and having them challenged | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
adequately challenged is actually a very important thing for everyone to | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
see in order to challenge the stereotype, not promote it. As for | :57:02. | :57:06. | |
him handing me the leaflet, and how I react to that, I think, we can all | :57:07. | :57:11. | |
jump and shout and scream at the person whose views we disa greed | :57:12. | :57:18. | |
with or some of Abdul's views may seem abhorrent and are and I | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
disagreed with them strongly, but you will see in the show that | :57:23. | :57:26. | |
perhaps speaking to people sometimes and trying to understand where | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
they're coming from and then adequately challenging them in a way | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
where they don't feel attacked might actually be the best way it get | :57:34. | :57:39. | |
through to them. I agree. He is on the show. It is great he's there. | :57:40. | :57:45. | |
The nine other contestants will continuously question him, but he | :57:46. | :57:49. | |
does make good entertainment and there is a reason why he is on the | :57:50. | :57:52. | |
show. He has been given considerable media attention, but what the | :57:53. | :57:55. | |
consequences of the show will be is that the British public will choose | :57:56. | :58:00. | |
an ideal Muslim, a moderate mus lum and look up to that ideal and any | :58:01. | :58:05. | |
other Muslim will be all of a sudden, they don't fit that. People | :58:06. | :58:10. | |
who aren't feminist or don't fit the popular person on the show. I'm | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
going to stop you there. Are you regretting selling Bake Off to | :58:16. | :58:20. | |
Channel 4? I thought I was here to talk about | :58:21. | :58:30. | |
Muslims Like Us. Thank you very much. Thank you very | :58:31. | :58:33. | |
much. Tonight, that programme is at 9pm on | :58:34. | :58:40. | |
BBC Two. | :58:41. | :58:42. |