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Two big pieces of legislation dominated proceedings in the chamber | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
- the Budget Bill and the Employment Bill. | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
Mervyn Storey brought his budget one step closer to becoming reality - | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
and Stephen Farry made his position clear on zero hour contracts. | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
Eye-watering sums of money are discussed in the chamber | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
as the Finance Minister brings forward the Budget Bill... | :00:43. | :00:52. | |
15 billion 770 million and of ?704,000 from the Northern Ireland | :00:53. | :00:59. | |
2016, Consolidated fund 2016, | :01:00. | :01:11. | |
A complete ban on zero hours contracts is ruled out | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
And I'm joined with his thoughts on today's money matters | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
It was the last business of the day, but perhaps the most important | :01:18. | :01:29. | |
as the Finance Minister opened the debate on the second stage | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
The legislation, which has already been granted accelerated passage | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
to make sure it's completed before the end of this mandate, | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
will cover the Executive's finances for the next twelve months... | :01:38. | :01:44. | |
the purpose of the bill is to authorise the issue of 15 billion | :01:45. | :01:56. | |
and 70 million and of ?704,000 from the Northern Ireland Consolidated | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
fund in 2016, 2015, 2016. The amounts for each department are | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
detailed this is ?359 million more than the authorised in the June | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
estimate. This cash is drawn down on a daily basis as needed from the | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
Northern Ireland Consolidated fund which is managed by my department on | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
behalf of the executive. The bill also authorises the use of resources | :02:23. | :02:37. | |
by departments and certain other around ?389 million more than | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
authorised in the estimate. The bill also authorises 2017 vote for cash | :02:42. | :03:02. | |
of resources of this is to allow the flow of cash and resources to flow | :03:03. | :03:09. | |
into public services of 2017 until the main estimates are approved in | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
June later this year. There amongst the business community and local | :03:17. | :03:24. | |
economy for the executive to take hold of, further fiscal levers. | :03:25. | :03:36. | |
Outlined is figures relating to the powers of revenues, in terms of | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
spent. Across the water you had Smith, Kalman, silk so to the suite | :03:43. | :03:51. | |
of fiscal levers that the Scottish and Welsh administrations have. We | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
have not have that in Belfast. The life story of this budget was the | :03:56. | :04:01. | |
disagreement over welfare. We think to in gauge with reasonable | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
proposals, not all you would have agreed with, but the failure to even | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
engage with those amendments, the rejection of the ideas of other | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
parties during the talks process, then the presenting with about half | :04:13. | :04:19. | |
an hour of parties like ours, the fresh then this budget that followed | :04:20. | :04:28. | |
and it to the money going but there is a talk about mandates and the use | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
wipes out and ignores the mandates of the other parties. In the budget | :04:36. | :04:45. | |
report, we have a reference how they which comes from and I think I | :04:46. | :04:55. | |
trotted this out about a month ago. Is 9.2 billion and I would think | :04:56. | :05:02. | |
that taxes generated in Northern Ireland are less than that. I do not | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
know whether it is their to ask the Minister how close that is to that. | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
My own feeling is it is light years away from 9.2 billion. The Alliance | :05:13. | :05:22. | |
that was the time when there was still an opportunity for an | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
alternative to be agreed. Now that these democratic decisions have been | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
taken for better or worse we have a duty to support the measures that | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
have put in place the finance for our government departments and | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
agencies. We recognise that 2016 and 2017 is transitional and it will be | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
followed by a four year budget and I have some hope that when the | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
rationalised apartments are in place and a new programme for government | :05:48. | :05:48. | |
is agreed that we will see a regard for | :05:49. | :06:03. | |
displaying at this regard for Judith Cochrane - and the economist | :06:04. | :06:14. | |
John Simpson is with me now... There were some enormous numbers | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
there from Mervyn Storey, it is a large sum. The difficulty is | :06:18. | :06:33. | |
breaking down the prove. It is at a standstill budget, the first budget | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
after the new government elected at Westminster and in real terms, after | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
you allow for putting money across for welfare reform, it is a budget | :06:43. | :06:49. | |
that is broadly speaking, do you think they have got the way in which | :06:50. | :06:57. | |
it is to be they have kept on the mechanism from the previous year. It | :06:58. | :07:11. | |
is there will be significant. The budget has been reduced not just in | :07:12. | :07:20. | |
monetary terms but in real terms. We to the election. We will now watch | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
and what they will promise after the election and one of the things I | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
will be looking at, we know the amount they will have, the two | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
parties have agreed they will live within the Westminster allocation of | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
the Barnett Formula. You know what the ceiling is, now if you're | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
proposing to change bending, you not only had to say what more you want | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
to do, but you will have to say what you're going to take out a more you | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
will make savings. That is the challenge. The legislation is last | :07:50. | :07:57. | |
year we were talking about a fantasy budget and now about a compromise | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
budget. The parties have said we have to get the show on the road, we | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
need to get a fresh start, the show is now rolling through a process in | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
which there will be many things that can go wrong. An interesting point | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
you make, it is a budget for one year, Judith Cochrane referred to it | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
as a transitional budget, it is not the way ideally you would plan the | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
finances of the country. No, after the last British election we were | :08:29. | :08:30. | |
told what our Barnett what are these parties | :08:31. | :08:53. | |
going to suggest coming up to the election? You know what you have to | :08:54. | :09:00. | |
live with them, that that is unlikely to I would like the economy | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
but there to be high-profile but there | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
Thanks John - we'll hear more from you later. | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
Another big piece of legislation in the Assembly today | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
was the Employment Bill and during the debate Stephen Farry | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
told MLAs that a complete ban on zero hours contracts would lead | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
to the loss of the thousands of jobs here. | :09:21. | :09:22. | |
The bill covered a variety of aspects of employment law | :09:23. | :09:24. | |
but the main arguments centred on the sometimes controversial | :09:25. | :09:26. | |
The Employment Minister told the house that more professions | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
than you might think work under similar circumstances... | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
indeed there are some immediate risks that could arise from an | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
outright ban. Once any measure became law employers would be faced | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
with changing the nature of employment contracts, that may not | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
be feasible in every situation particularly where flexibility is of | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
a premium. Therefore there is a prospect of an outright ban leading | :09:52. | :09:59. | |
to the loss of thousands of -- my understanding is that this could be | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
construed as zero hours contracts. There are also over 10,000 names on | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
the substitute teachers register who can be regarded as being on these | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
contracts together with a number of contracts in further an outright ban | :10:15. | :10:22. | |
of that was to be adopted would be to create chaos in both the health | :10:23. | :10:29. | |
how can people get a mortgage on the zero hour contract? When the | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
minister brought forward proposals on how to tackle this, one of the | :10:33. | :10:42. | |
issues along that are in low paid jobs and their ability to access | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
benefits and working tax credits and the ministers are us that there are | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
department and the Department for social development were working on a | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
joint approach to tackle out. No update on how the benefit system is | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
going to be changed to meet the flexibility of employees who may be | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
one week get 30 hours and for the next 34 weeks do not get any hours | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
per because that is the case, they do not get benefits. We have a | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
responsibility as a community to try and create appropriate implement | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
opportunities and to have those presented in such a way that those | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
young people are treated early and that they can at least, even if they | :11:20. | :11:21. | |
are on a relatively low salary, that think what would happen if we | :11:22. | :12:07. | |
could encourage They have no idea what their order | :12:08. | :12:37. | |
sheet will be like months in advance. They very often take an | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
order on Monday for that weekend, so they depend on a short term order | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
book. Zero hours contracts allows them to take that work knowing they | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
have a list of people who can come in at short notice and help them do | :12:53. | :13:00. | |
that catering job. We all know what zero hours contracts looked like, | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
but I don't think an outright ban is appropriate. It has allowed me to | :13:04. | :13:12. | |
prioritise something that was more important in my life whilst being | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
able to work and earn something to pay for any bills that I had. | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
And the Sinn Fein amendments on zero hours contracts fell. | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
There was no rest for Stephen Farry who also faced Question Time | :13:24. | :13:25. | |
The Employment and Learning Minister was asked about student | :13:26. | :13:32. | |
accommodation being built in Belfast city centre and, | :13:33. | :13:34. | |
first of all, the expansion of the Magee campus | :13:35. | :13:36. | |
The oversight and stewardship of the business case always going to be | :13:37. | :13:46. | |
critically important in the uncertain context of moving from one | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
department to a new department. Can the minister give the house | :13:51. | :13:52. | |
assurance that the same team will be working on the business plan? | :13:53. | :14:01. | |
Starting from the back, the same unit as transfers into the new | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
department on this, there may be some change of personnel as is the | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
case with every aspect of Government, but there will be no | :14:10. | :14:11. | |
more or less continuity than anything else. I do take issue with | :14:12. | :14:21. | |
the point around the false dawns. I haven't been involved in. Is around | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
this. I support the expansion of Ulster University, it is clear that | :14:27. | :14:35. | |
we do need to be producing more graduates, particularly those | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
identified as needed by our economy. But we cannot expand the University | :14:43. | :14:50. | |
of Ulster at ID unless more resources are allocated towards | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
higher education. I welcome his continuing support for expansion of | :14:55. | :15:05. | |
Maghee. We have already been down this road, and it was raised in what | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
we produced in the summer of last year. It took quite some time before | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
the revised business case came back to the department, so whether this | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
is the final stage of the process that we are now in, or whether we | :15:19. | :15:21. | |
have to go through another iteration depends upon the tick killer point | :15:22. | :15:29. | |
around scrutiny, but the issue isn't one about the capacity of the | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
Council of consultants or the university to produce a business | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
case. The answer the of whether Maghee will expand is how it will be | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
resourced by the executive, and they will have to be done in a way that | :15:44. | :15:50. | |
is sustainable. In relation to student accommodation in Belfast | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
University students, with the minister like to comment on what | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
appears to be a frenzy of planning applications in relation to student | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
accommodation, both in North Belfast and also in south Belfast? And the | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
fact that it appears that the universities are simply allowing | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
these applications to develop in a free market without any plan or | :16:19. | :16:24. | |
control? In terms of accommodation, we are seeing different approaches | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
depending on which of the universities we are talking about. | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
Obviously Queens have moved ahead with their own projects in terms of | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
their own managed accommodation, and Ulster University is adopting a | :16:38. | :16:39. | |
situation where the private sector is responding. I wouldn't say it is | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
fair to say that there is no control in that regard, but there is | :16:46. | :16:47. | |
controlled by planning in terms of land use and the recommendation of | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
individual applications, and Belfast City Council is the lead authority | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
with the responsibility. The council goes through their own processes. | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
Stephen Farry on the challenge of providing adequate student | :17:04. | :17:05. | |
As we come towards the end of the mandate there are a lot | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
of T's being crossed and I's being dotted. | :17:10. | :17:11. | |
Today it was the turn of the Environment Minister, | :17:12. | :17:13. | |
He brought the final stage of a bill to simplify environmental | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
Aristotle is credited with saying that even when laws have been | :17:19. | :17:27. | |
written down, they ought not always to remain unaltered. Currently | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
Northern Ireland environmental regulators operate under some 230 | :17:34. | :17:41. | |
pieces of environmental legislation. This has produced a complex and | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
unwieldy legislative landscape which is difficult for the regulated to | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
understand, and for the regulators to enforce. This is clearly a system | :17:51. | :17:58. | |
which should no longer remain unaltered. The environmental better | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
regulation Bill aims to harmonise and simplify aspects of this body of | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
environmental legislation. Better environmental legislation will mean | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
a cleaner, safer environment for all. The committee recognises that | :18:15. | :18:23. | |
as environmental legislation has developed, it has become complex | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
with different rules and regimes, making it confusing for businesses. | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
The committee is aware that the bill is one aspect of a wider regulatory | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
transformation programme aimed at reducing the burden of regulation on | :18:39. | :18:46. | |
business. Mr Speaker, the bill is in essence a Skeleton Bill, meaning | :18:47. | :18:54. | |
that the real operation of the act would be made entirely by the | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
regulations under it. 20 pollution incidents have occurred in five | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
years, decimating fish stocks, and yet only half of these resulted in | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
prosecution, and such incidents happen across Northern Ireland, with | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
the Paul Cook continually going unpunished -- the culprits | :19:18. | :19:24. | |
continually going unpunished. We would like to use additional | :19:25. | :19:26. | |
resources to swiftly bring them to justice. It will be less burden to | :19:27. | :19:32. | |
businesses, but it is key when we bring it forward before the | :19:33. | :19:34. | |
regulations that we talk to businesses, engage them and through | :19:35. | :19:44. | |
the scrutiny process bring forward some suggested amendments for | :19:45. | :19:46. | |
consideration stage is brought forward by the Minister, and that is | :19:47. | :19:54. | |
to be welcomed. The Department of the Environment will be subsumed and | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
divided into three parts, but it will continue to exist, and in | :19:59. | :20:07. | |
successive departments, and it is very important that we in dealing | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
with the environment set the proper regulatory and legal basis for it to | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
continue its good work. The Bill sounds well-meaning, but is | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
undoubtedly liked an actual detail in terms of new policy direction. | :20:26. | :20:33. | |
Having read the committee report, I realise that the Bill is what is | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
considered enabling legislation, and I therefore wish the new department | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
well in its efforts to reform and modernise our new regulatory | :20:45. | :20:45. | |
framework. Alastair Patterson making his first | :20:46. | :20:48. | |
contribution to a debate in the chamber - and here's a little | :20:49. | :20:50. | |
more of his maiden speech... Representing Fermanagh and South | :20:51. | :20:58. | |
Tyrone, an area of outstanding natural beauty, where tourism is | :20:59. | :21:05. | |
extremely important, I pledge myself, Mr Speaker, to working with | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
all members of this house to promote when and whatever we can Northern | :21:11. | :21:17. | |
Ireland has to offer. Especially in this year of food and drink. I | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
appeal to this house. We must ensure that we promote hospitality to all. | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
I have to confess to having a vested interest in this area of hospitality | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
as my wife, Olga, as chair of hospitality Ulster. Trust me, Mr | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
Speaker, going home doesn't bring about quietness as I have often | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
lobby Dominique Gisin the hospitality industry, and I will be | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
pressing our health Minister on the need for more resources, in | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
particular for the South West acute hospital, which sadly doesn't even | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
have full-time doctor cover at weekends, which is extremely sad, it | :22:03. | :22:09. | |
seems that you are not allowed to be sick at weekends. I wanted to be | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
clear to all members of this house that I will extend the hand of | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
friendship to all members to work for the benefit of all the people. | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
Alastair Patterson, keen to forge friendships across the House. | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
The Enterprise Minister was on his feet at Question Time | :22:28. | :22:29. | |
The old faithfuls Corporation Tax and the EU referendum not | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
surprisingly made an appearance, but Jonathan Bell also had | :22:35. | :22:36. | |
to respond to a question from the Ulster Unionist, | :22:37. | :22:38. | |
Ross Hussey, about recently published statistics | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
We have experienced growth in three of the last four quarters, with an | :22:41. | :22:55. | |
annual increase of 1.6%. Despite those positives, the figures for the | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
latest quarter were negative, and these findings are disappointing. I | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
think most economists that are advising me say don't get too | :23:07. | :23:08. | |
fixated on just one single quarter's data. There are relatively small | :23:09. | :23:17. | |
quarterly statistics and can be volatile. If you look at quarterly | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
figures, I do see concerns. I take the advice to look at those but also | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
to note the volatility, Inoha look at the annual change, services were | :23:28. | :23:35. | |
1% at a manufacturing output were 2.9% up, and construction output | :23:36. | :23:45. | |
were 3.7% up. This change in corporation tax is described as a | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
game changer. Why did it not change the game in my constituency by the | :23:49. | :23:57. | |
large companies who are leaving our shores at precisely the time when a | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
reduction in corporation tax will come? I spent time with the Michelin | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
management and I asked them if there was anything more the Government | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
could have done, and they told me know. But what I can tell members is | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
there is a huge interest in Northern Ireland. When companies come to me | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
and say, we came for the costs, we stayed for your people. When other | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
companies like City come to provide hundreds of jobs, they now provide | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
somewhere in the region of 2000 jobs. When we see the large | :24:30. | :24:37. | |
companies tripling their profits and talking about what they could do | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
into the future, I think of we present that collective message of | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
low-cost low tax and excellent work forced, we have a winning message | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
that the economy of Northern Ireland. Perhaps you could outline | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
for us and tell the House the representations that you have | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
received from business and industry about their concern of the negative | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
impact of an exit of the United Kingdom from the EU. I made a | :25:03. | :25:10. | |
mistake last week and talked about the nature of the quest, and I | :25:11. | :25:13. | |
should have said the nature of the terms, I will correct that record. | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
Business has spoken to me, not exclusively with one voice. There | :25:19. | :25:20. | |
are differing approaches that are being made. What I have tried to do | :25:21. | :25:27. | |
is say to people that we have commissioned Oxford economics to try | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
to provide the best information for people to examine against what may | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
or may not come next week. First supplementary. Minister, with the | :25:37. | :25:45. | |
first Minister leading towards out, is it likely that you will be the | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
only enterprise minister in the United Kingdom who is an TEU, and | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
will be leading the charge against business and industry in Northern | :25:56. | :26:03. | |
Ireland? -- who will be Tabac to? I support the position that has been | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
adopted 100%. What I have asked people to do is to look seriously at | :26:09. | :26:16. | |
the information that we are commissioning from Oxford economics | :26:17. | :26:18. | |
on the range of options, and to examine it against the terms that | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
come through. Jonathan Bell suggesting it's better | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
to wait and see when it comes for discussion in the chamber | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
on an almost daily basis - with the House pretty divided - | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
what way do you think any For the United Kingdom, I think | :26:35. | :26:44. | |
there is a real doubt about which way the vote will go, but I will say | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
it looks to me as if the Scots will vote quite clearly to stay within | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
the European Union. If the English, and I use the word meaning England, | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
if they vote to come out, that is the equivalent of saying they are | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
allowing the United Kingdom to break up, because the Scots will then go | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
for a new referendum, and I have no doubt they will win it. I was | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
frightfully worried about the referendum. Never mind that. In | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
terms of Northern Ireland, I am quite clear in my own mind the right | :27:15. | :27:17. | |
answer for Northern Ireland is to stay within Europe and reform it | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
from within. To step outside and try to reform from outside seems to me | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
to be a waste of time. There are significant voices within the DUP | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
which are very Euro-sceptic I think it is fair to say. They believe that | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
Northern Ireland does not benefit from its membership of the EU. You | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
don't see it that way? I don't agree with that conclusion. I think there | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
is a debate about, if it is just in terms of loads of money, Northern | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
Ireland does quite well. If it is about flows of money for the United | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
Kingdom, the United Kingdom contributes to the prosperity of the | :27:54. | :27:56. | |
rest of Europe, but it is not about money. It is about what we think is | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
to be gained by operating on a corporate and cooperative European | :28:03. | :28:05. | |
bases, on the short answer is there is more often something to be gained | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
and lost, and unfortunately this debate about where we are in terms | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
of European Union is now turning into something I am sorry to say is | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
becoming emotional rather than rational. And a final word on | :28:17. | :28:23. | |
corporation tax. Where Ari with that -- where are we with that? It is | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
coming, but the one thing that can damage it is that it creates | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
uncertainty. Will the American investors think of Northern Ireland | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
in the same way if we are out of the European Union? No. Will they have a | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
chance of going to the Republican said of coming to the North? Yes. It | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
will be a fascinating debate. Thank you very much for having you on the | :28:46. | :28:46. | |
programme. And that's it for tonight, | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
but I'll be back with an extra edition of the programme tomorrow | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
night at the slightly later time Until then, from everyone | :28:53. | :28:55. | |
in the team - bye bye... | :28:56. | :28:59. |