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This is BBC News at 11. We have a special programme on last night's US | :00:08. | :00:16. | |
presidential TV debate. Refusing to shake hands, Donald Trump and | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
Hillary Clinton, head-to-head in what is described as the worst | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
tempered debate in history. This was locker room talk. It is clear to | :00:26. | :00:30. | |
anyone who heard it it represents exactly who he is. If you look at | :00:31. | :00:35. | |
Bill Clinton, far worse. Mine are words and his was action. I am | :00:36. | :00:41. | |
reminded what my friend Michelle Obama advised us, when they go low, | :00:42. | :00:49. | |
you go high. Donald Trump performed better and put Hillary Clinton on | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
the defensive. I think it is already decided. Those voters not decided, I | :00:54. | :01:00. | |
am not sure it helps them. He reminded her that her husband has a | :01:01. | :01:06. | |
track record that exceeds anything I have seen so I think he was right in | :01:07. | :01:19. | |
doing that. Hello, this morning we have a special programme on the US | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
presidential debate. Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have clashed | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
again in the second televised debate in the race for the White House. | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
Hillary Clinton said Donald Trump's comments about women following the | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
leak of the video showed he was unfit to be president. Mr Trump | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
dismissed the tape is locker room talk and accused his rival's | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
husband, Bill Clinton, of behaving worse. The candidates set the tone | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
from the start. They did not shake hands when they entered the stage at | :01:50. | :01:57. | |
Washington University, said Lewis. -- said Louis. | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
It was at times of extremely fiery second presidential debate | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and her Republican rival | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
Donald Trump spoke about the fight against these | :02:11. | :02:12. | |
Islamophobia and, of course, that lewd audio recording | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
of Mr Trump that he dismissed as locker room talk. | :02:16. | :02:17. | |
Well, that's where we will pick up the debate as moderated | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
by Martha Raddatz from ABC News and CNN's Anderson Cooper. | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
We received a lot of questions online, Mr Trump, about the tape | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
You called what you said locker room banter. | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
You described kissing women without consent, | :02:33. | :02:33. | |
You bragged that you have sexually assaulted women. | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
I don't think you understood what was said. | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
I apologised to my family, I apologised to the American people. | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
Certainly I'm not proud of it, but this is locker room talk. | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
You know, when we have a world where you have Isis chopping off | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
And frankly drowning people in steel cages. | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
Where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights all over. | :03:09. | :03:10. | |
Where you have so many bad things happening. | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
Can you imagine the people that are frankly doing so well | :03:13. | :03:21. | |
against us, with Isis, and they look at our country | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
Isis happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left | :03:25. | :03:40. | |
because of bad judgment and I will tell you, | :03:41. | :03:42. | |
And you should get onto much more important things | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
Just for the record, though, are you saying that what you said | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
on that bus 11 years ago, that you did not actually kiss | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
women without consent, or grope women without consent? | :03:59. | :04:00. | |
Nobody has more respect for women that I do. | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
So for the record, you're saying you never did that? | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
Frankly, you hear these things I said. | :04:07. | :04:08. | |
I was embarrassed by it but I have tremendous respect for women. | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
And I will tell you that I'm going to make our country safe, | :04:12. | :04:21. | |
we're going to have borders in our country which | :04:22. | :04:23. | |
People are pouring into our country and they're coming in from | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
We're going to make America safe again. | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
We're going to make America great again. | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
But we are going to make America safe again. | :04:33. | :04:34. | |
And we're going to make America wealthy again, | :04:35. | :04:36. | |
because, if you don't do that, it sounds harsh to say, | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
but we have to build up the wealth of our nation. | :04:40. | :04:41. | |
Now other nations are taking our jobs and they're taking our wealth. | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
Secretary Clinton, do you want to respond? | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
Well, like everyone else, I've spent a lot of time thinking | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
over the last 48 hours about what we heard and saw. | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
You know, with prior Republican nominees for President, | :04:57. | :05:03. | |
I disagreed with them on politics, policies, principles. | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
But I never questioned their fitness to serve. | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
I said starting back in June that he was not fit to be president | :05:11. | :05:19. | |
And many Republicans and independents have | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
What we all saw and heard on Friday was Donald talking about women, | :05:24. | :05:34. | |
what he thinks about women, what he does to women. | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
And he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. | :05:40. | :05:47. | |
But I think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
represents exactly who he is, because we've seen this | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
We have seen him rate women on their appearance, | :05:54. | :06:02. | |
We have seen him embarrass women on TV and on Twitter. | :06:03. | :06:13. | |
We saw him after the first debate spent nearly a week denigrating | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
a former Miss Universe in the harshest most personal terms. | :06:21. | :06:22. | |
So, yes, this is who Donald Trump is. | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
But it's not only women and it's not only this video that raises | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
questions about his fitness to be our president. | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
Because he has also targeted immigrants, African-Americans, | :06:34. | :06:40. | |
And the question for us, the question our country must answer | :06:41. | :06:54. | |
That's why to go back to your question, I want to send | :06:55. | :07:02. | |
a message, we all should, to every boy and girl, | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
and indeed to the entire world, that America already | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
is great, but we are great because we are good. | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
And we will respect one another and we will work with one another | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
These are very important values to me, because this is the America | :07:19. | :07:29. | |
that I know and love, and I can pledge to you tonight | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
that this is the America that I will serve if I am so fortunate | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
And we want to get to some questions from online. | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
It's just words, folks, it's just words. | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
Those words, I've been hearing them for many years. | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
I heard them when they were running for the Senate in New York, | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
where Hillary was going to bring back jobs | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
I've heard them where Hillary is constantly talking | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
about the inner cities of our country, which are | :08:04. | :08:11. | |
education-wise, job-wise, safety-wise. | :08:12. | :08:12. | |
I'm going to help the African Americans, | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
I'm going to help the Latinos, Hispanics. | :08:17. | :08:18. | |
I am going to help with the inner cities. | :08:19. | :08:21. | |
She has done a terrible job for the African-Americans. | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
She wants their vote and she does nothing and then she comes | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
We saw that first-hand, when she was United States senator. | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
I want to get to audience questions and online questions. | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
So she is allowed to do that but I am not allowed to respond? | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
You're going to get to respond right now. | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
This tape is generating intense interest. | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
In just 48 hours it has become the single most talked | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
about story of the entire 2016 election on Facebook. | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
With millions and millions of people discussing it on the social network. | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
As we said a moment ago, we do want to bring | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
in questions from voters around the country via social media. | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
Trump says the campaign has changed him. | :09:05. | :09:12. | |
When you walked off that bus at age 59, were you a different man, | :09:13. | :09:22. | |
or did that behaviour continue until just recently? | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
I am a person who has great respect for people, for my family, | :09:26. | :09:37. | |
for the people of this country, and certainly I'm not | :09:38. | :09:39. | |
proud of it, but that was something that happened. | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
If you look at Bill Clinton, far worse. | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
His was, what he has done to women, there has never been anybody | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
in the history of politics in this nation that's been | :09:53. | :09:55. | |
So you can say any way you want to say it but Bill Clinton | :09:56. | :10:05. | |
Hillary Clinton attacked those same women and attacked them viciously, | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
One of the women, who is a wonderful woman, | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
Her client, she represented, got him off, and she is seen | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
laughing on two separate occasions, laughing at the girl who was raped. | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
Kathy Shelton, that young woman, is here with us tonight. | :10:29. | :10:30. | |
Absolutely I apologise for those words. | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
But what President Clinton did, he was impeached, | :10:37. | :10:45. | |
he lost his licence to practise law, he had to pay an $850,000 fine | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
to one of the women, Paula Jones, who is | :10:51. | :10:52. | |
And I will tell you that when Hillary brings up a point | :10:53. | :11:00. | |
like that and she talks about words that I said 11 years ago, | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
I think it's disgraceful and I think she should | :11:05. | :11:06. | |
be ashamed of herself, if you want to know the truth. | :11:07. | :11:08. | |
Secretary Clinton, you have two minutes. | :11:09. | :11:19. | |
Well, first let me start by saying that so much of what he's | :11:20. | :11:21. | |
But he gets to run his campaign any way he chooses. | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
He gets to decide what he wants to talk about instead | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
of answering people's questions, talking about our agenda, | :11:33. | :11:34. | |
laying out the plans that we have, that we think can make a better life | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
When I hear something like that, I am reminded of what my friend | :11:39. | :11:46. | |
And, look, if this were just about one video, maybe | :11:47. | :12:00. | |
what he's saying tonight would be understandable. | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
But everyone can draw their own conclusions at this point | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
about whether or not the man in the video or the man | :12:12. | :12:13. | |
But he never apologises for anything to anyone. | :12:14. | :12:22. | |
He never apologised to Mr and Mrs Khan, the Gold Star family | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
whose son Captain Khan died in the line of duty in Iraq. | :12:28. | :12:34. | |
And Donald insulted and attacked them for weeks over their religion. | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
He never apologised to the distinguished federal judge | :12:39. | :12:46. | |
who was born in Indiana, but Donald said he couldn't be | :12:47. | :12:48. | |
trusted to be a judge because his parents | :12:49. | :12:50. | |
He never apologised to the reporter that he mimicked and mocked | :12:51. | :12:57. | |
on national television and our children were watching. | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
And he never apologised for the racist lie that | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
President Obama was not born in the United States of America. | :13:08. | :13:15. | |
He owes the president an apology, he owes our country an apology | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
and he needs to take responsibility for his actions and his words. | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
Well you owe the president an apology because, | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
as you know very well, your campaign, Sidney Blumenthal, | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
he's another real winner that you have, and he's the one that | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
got this started, along with your campaign manager, | :13:34. | :13:35. | |
and they were on television just two weeks ago, | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
and they were on television just two weeks ago, she was, | :13:39. | :13:41. | |
You're the one who sent the pictures around your campaign, | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
sent the pictures around with President Obama in a certain garb. | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
That was long before I was ever involved, so you actually | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
I've gotten to see the commercials that they did on you. | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
And I've gotten to see some of the most vicious commercials I've | :13:58. | :14:06. | |
commercials I've ever seen, of Michelle Obama talking | :14:07. | :14:08. | |
So you talk about friend, go back and take a look | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
A race where you lost fair and square, unlike | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
the Bernie Sanders race, where you won, but not fair | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
And all you have to do is take a look at Wikileaks | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
and just see what they said about Bernie Sanders and see | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
what Deborah Wasserman Schultz had in mind because Bernie Sanders | :14:29. | :14:30. | |
between superdelegates and Deborah Wasserman Schultz, | :14:31. | :14:31. | |
And I was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil. | :14:32. | :14:39. | |
But when you talk about apology, I think the one that you should | :14:40. | :14:42. | |
really be apologising for and the thing you should be | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
apologising for are the 33,000 e-mails that you deleted and | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
And then the two boxes of e-mails and other things last week that | :14:51. | :14:56. | |
were taken from an office and are now missing. | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
And I'll tell you what, I didn't think I'd say this but I am | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
going to say it and I hate to say it, but if I win, I am going | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
to instruct my Attorney General to get a special prosecutor to look | :15:10. | :15:25. | |
to look into your situation because there has never been so many | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
lies, so much deception, there has never been | :15:29. | :15:30. | |
And we are going to have a special prosecutor. | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
The people of this country are furious. | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
In my opinion, the people that have been long-term workers | :15:38. | :15:39. | |
There has never been anything like this where e-mails, | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
and you get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena, | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
you delete 33,000 e-mails and then you acid wash them, | :15:46. | :15:47. | |
or bleach them, as you would say, a very expensive process. | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
So we are going to get a special prosecutor. | :15:53. | :15:54. | |
into it because, you know what, people, their lives have been | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
destroyed for doing one fifth of what you have done | :16:00. | :16:01. | |
And, honestly, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
Everything he just said is absolutely false, | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
The audience needs to calm down here. | :16:10. | :16:18. | |
I told people that it would be impossible to be fact checking | :16:19. | :16:21. | |
I'd never get to talk about anything I want to do and how | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
we are going to really make lives better for people. | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
So, once again, go to Hillary Clinton.com. | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
Last time, the first debate, we had millions of people fact checking. | :16:33. | :16:40. | |
So I expect we'll have millions more fact checking, because, you know, | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
it is just awfully good that someone with the temperament | :16:45. | :16:47. | |
of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country. | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
We want to remind the audience to please not talk out loud, | :16:51. | :17:03. | |
And Secretary Clinton, I do want to follow up | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
You said you're handling of the e-mails was a mistake. | :17:09. | :17:15. | |
You disagreed with the FBI director calling your handling | :17:16. | :17:17. | |
of classified information quote, extremely careless. | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
The FBI said there were 110 classified e-mails that | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
were exchanged, eight of which were top-secret. | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
And that it was possible hostile actors did gain | :17:28. | :17:29. | |
You don't call that extremely careless? | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
Martha, first let me say, and I've said it before, | :17:35. | :17:36. | |
but I'll repeat it because I want everyone to hear it. | :17:37. | :17:39. | |
That was a mistake and I take responsibility for using | :17:40. | :17:41. | |
Obviously, if I were to do it over again I would not. | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
I think it's also important to point out where there are some misleading | :17:49. | :17:59. | |
hacked the server I was using, and there is no evidence that anyone | :18:00. | :18:18. | |
can point to at all, anyone who says otherwise has no basis, | :18:19. | :18:21. | |
that any classified material ended up in the wrong hands. | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
I take classified materials very seriously and always have. | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
When I was on the Senate armed services committee, | :18:31. | :18:32. | |
I was privy to a lot of classified material. | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
Obviously as Secretary of State I had some of the most | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
important secrets that we possess, such as going after Bin Laden. | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
So I am very committed to taking classified information seriously. | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
And as I said, there is no evidence that any classified information | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
And yet she didn't know the word the letter | :18:54. | :19:01. | |
She didn't even know what that letter meant. | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
It's amazing, I'm watching Hillary go over facts. | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
And she's going after fact after fact and she's lying again | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
because she said what she did with e-mails was fine. | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
Do you think it was fine to delete 33,000 e-mails? | :19:20. | :19:21. | |
She said the 33,000 e-mails had to do with her daughter's wedding, | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
Well maybe we will give three, or four, or five, or something. | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
33,000 e-mails deleted and now she is saying | :19:30. | :19:31. | |
And more importantly that was after getting a subpoena, | :19:32. | :19:37. | |
She got it from the United States Congress. | :19:38. | :19:44. | |
I'll be honest, I'm so disappointed in congressmen, including | :19:45. | :19:47. | |
Republicans, for allowing this to happen, our Justice Department | :19:48. | :19:49. | |
where her husband goes on to the back of an aeroplane | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
for 39 minutes, talks to the Attorney General, | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
days before a ruling is going to be made on her case. | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
But for you to say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
39,000 e-mails again, you should be ashamed of yourself. | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
What you did, and this is after getting a subpoena | :20:10. | :20:11. | |
This next question comes from the public through | :20:12. | :20:18. | |
the bipartisan Open Debate Coalition's online forum, | :20:19. | :20:21. | |
where Americans submitted questions that generated millions of votes. | :20:22. | :20:30. | |
This question involves Wikileaks' release of purported excerpts | :20:31. | :20:32. | |
of Secretary Clinton's paid speeches, which she has refused | :20:33. | :20:34. | |
to release and one line in particular in which you Secretary | :20:35. | :20:37. | |
Clinton purportedly say you need both a public and private | :20:38. | :20:39. | |
So, To, from Virginia asks, is it OK for politicians | :20:40. | :20:49. | |
Is it acceptable for a politician to have a private stance on issues? | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
As I recall that was something I said about Abraham Lincoln | :20:55. | :21:03. | |
after having seen the wonderful Stephen Spielberg movie called | :21:04. | :21:05. | |
It was a masterclass watching President Lincoln get the Congress | :21:06. | :21:16. | |
It was principled and it was strategic. | :21:17. | :21:24. | |
And I was making the point that it is hard sometimes | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
to get the Congress to do what you want to do and you have | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
And yes, President Lincoln was trying to convince some people. | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
He used some arguments convincing other people, he used | :21:38. | :21:39. | |
That was a great, I thought, great display of presidential leadership. | :21:40. | :21:48. | |
But, let's talk about what's really going on here, Martha, | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
because our intelligence community just came out and said in the last | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
few days that the Kremlin, meaning Putin and the Russian government, | :21:57. | :22:05. | |
are directing the attacks, the hacking, on American accounts | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
And Wikileaks are part of that as our other sites where | :22:09. | :22:16. | |
We don't even know if it is accurate information. | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
We have never in the history of our country been in a situation | :22:20. | :22:30. | |
where an adversary, a foreign power, is working so hard to influence | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
And believe me, they are not doing it to get me elected. | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
They are doing it to try to influence the election | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
Now maybe because he has praised Putin, maybe because he has said | :22:41. | :22:48. | |
he agrees with a lot of what Putin wants to do, maybe because he wants | :22:49. | :22:51. | |
to do business in Moscow, I don't know the reason. | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
But we deserve answers and we should demand that Donald release | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
all of his tax returns so that people can see | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
what are the entanglements and the financial relationships. | :23:02. | :23:03. | |
And we aren't going to get to that later. | :23:04. | :23:05. | |
Secretary Clinton, you are out of time. | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
Her papers went out to all her friends at the banks, | :23:09. | :23:19. | |
And she said things, Wikileaks, that just came out. | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
Now she is blaming the lie on the late, | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
That's the big difference between Abraham Lincoln and you. | :23:29. | :23:42. | |
That is a big, big difference we're talking about. | :23:43. | :23:44. | |
But, as far as other elements of what she was saying, | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
I think it would be great if we get along with Russia | :23:49. | :24:01. | |
because we could fight Isis together, as an example. | :24:02. | :24:03. | |
But I notice any time any thing wrong happens, they like to say... | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
She doesn't know if it is the Russians doing the hacking. | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
And the reason they blame Russia is they think they are trying | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
I know about Russia but I know nothing about the inner | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
I have no businesses there, I have no loans from Russia. | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
I have a great balance sheet, so great that when I did | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
the old Post Office on Pennsylvania Avenue, | :24:27. | :24:27. | |
the United States government, because of my balance sheet, | :24:28. | :24:30. | |
which they actually know very well, chose me to do the old post office | :24:31. | :24:33. | |
between the White House and Congress, chose me to do | :24:34. | :24:35. | |
One of the primary things, perhaps the primary thing was balance sheet. | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
You could go to the United States government and they would probably | :24:41. | :24:48. | |
tell you that because they know my sheet very well. | :24:49. | :24:50. | |
I pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. | :24:51. | :24:59. | |
Many of our friends took bigger deductions. | :25:00. | :25:01. | |
Soros, a friend of hers, took a massive deduction. | :25:02. | :25:10. | |
Many of the people that are giving her all this money | :25:11. | :25:13. | |
that she can do many more commercials than me | :25:14. | :25:15. | |
I pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes, | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
but as soon as my routine audit's finished I'll release my returns. | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
We are going to turn to the topic of taxes. | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
We have a question from Spencer Moss. | :25:27. | :25:28. | |
Good evening, my question is - what specific tax provisions | :25:29. | :25:37. | |
will you change to ensure the wealthiest Americans | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
One thing I'd do is get rid of carried interest. | :25:42. | :25:48. | |
One of the greatest provisions, for people like me, | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
to be honest with you, I give up a lot when I run | :25:53. | :26:00. | |
And she could have done this years ago. | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
She complains that Donald Trump took advantage of the tax code. | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
Why didn't you change it when you were a senator? | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
The reason you didn't is that all your friends take the same | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
You have provisions in the tax code that frankly we could change, | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
but you wouldn't change it because all of these people give | :26:20. | :26:21. | |
you the money so you can take negative ads on Donald Trump. | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
And I say that about a lot of things. | :26:25. | :26:26. | |
I've heard Hillary complaining about so many different things | :26:27. | :26:28. | |
over the years but she's been there 30 years, | :26:29. | :26:31. | |
She'll never change and she never will change. | :26:32. | :26:34. | |
We're getting rid of carried interest provisions. | :26:35. | :26:36. | |
I'm lowering taxes, actually, because I think it's | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
so important for corporations because we have corporations, | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
massive corporations and little ones, little ones can't form. | :26:44. | :26:45. | |
We're getting rid of regulations that go hand in hand | :26:46. | :26:48. | |
with the lowering of the taxes but we're bringing the tax rate down | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
We're cutting taxes for the middle-class and I will tell | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
you we are cutting them big league for the middle-class. | :26:58. | :26:59. | |
Hillary Clinton is raising your taxes, folks. | :27:00. | :27:01. | |
She's raising your taxes really high. | :27:02. | :27:08. | |
And what that is going to do is a disaster for the country, | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
but she is raising your taxes and I am lowering your taxes. | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
If China has a GDP of 7%, its like a national catastrophe. | :27:15. | :27:25. | |
And we're going lower, in my opinion. | :27:26. | :27:33. | |
And a lot of it has to do with the fact that our taxes are so high. | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
And I'm bringing them down to one of the lower in the world. | :27:38. | :27:44. | |
One of the most important things we can do. | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
But she is raising everybody's taxes massively. | :27:49. | :27:50. | |
Senator Clinton you have two minutes. | :27:51. | :27:52. | |
The question was, what specific tax provisions will you change to ensure | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
the wealthiest Americans pay their fair share of taxes? | :27:56. | :27:57. | |
Well everything you've heard just now from Donald is not true. | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
I'm sorry I have to keep saying this but he lives | :28:03. | :28:04. | |
And it is sort of amusing to hear somebody who hasn't paid federal | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
income taxes in maybe 20 years talking about what he's | :28:12. | :28:13. | |
going to do, but I'll tell you what he is going to do. | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
His plan will give the wealthy and corporations the biggest tax | :28:18. | :28:19. | |
More than the Bush tax cuts by at least a factor of two. | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
Donald always takes care of Donald and people like Donald and this | :28:27. | :28:29. | |
Indeed, the way he talks about his tax cuts would | :28:30. | :28:36. | |
end up raising taxes in middle-class families, | :28:37. | :28:38. | |
I have said nobody who makes less than $250,000 a year, | :28:39. | :28:46. | |
and that is the vast majority of Americans, as you know, | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
Because I think we've got to go where the money is and the money | :28:50. | :28:56. | |
is with people who take advantage of every single break | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
When I was a Senator, I did vote to close | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
I voted to close I think one of the loopholes he took advantage | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
of when he claimed a $1 billion loss that enabled him to | :29:09. | :29:11. | |
I want to have a tax on people who are making $1 million. | :29:12. | :29:19. | |
Yes, Warren Buffett who has gone out and said somebody like him should | :29:20. | :29:26. | |
not be paying a lower tax rate than his secretary. | :29:27. | :29:28. | |
I want to have a surcharge on incomes above 5 million. | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
We have to make up for lost times because I want to invest | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
in you, I want to invest in hard-working families. | :29:37. | :29:38. | |
And I think it's been unfortunate, but it's happened, that | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
since the great recession, the gains have all gone to the top. | :29:42. | :29:44. | |
People like Donald who paid zero in taxes, zero for our vets, | :29:45. | :29:54. | |
zero for our military, zero for health and education, | :29:55. | :29:56. | |
And we're going to make sure that nobody, no | :29:57. | :29:59. | |
corporation and no individual, can get away without | :30:00. | :30:01. | |
Mr Trump, I want to give you the chance to respond. | :30:02. | :30:08. | |
I just want to tell viewers what she is referring to. | :30:09. | :30:11. | |
In the last month, taxes were the number one issue | :30:12. | :30:13. | |
on Facebook for the first time in the campaign. | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
The New York Times published three pages of your 1995 tax returns. | :30:17. | :30:19. | |
They show you claimed a $916 million loss, which means you could have | :30:20. | :30:22. | |
avoided paying personal federal income taxes for years. | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
You've said you paid state taxes, employee taxes, real estate taxes, | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
property taxes, you have not answered, though, a simple question. | :30:29. | :30:31. | |
Did you use that $960 million loss to avoid paying personal | :30:32. | :30:34. | |
And so do all of her donors, or most of her donors. | :30:35. | :30:41. | |
Her donors took massive tax write-offs. | :30:42. | :30:48. | |
A lot of my write-off was depreciation and other things | :30:49. | :30:50. | |
The people who give her all this money, they want it. | :30:51. | :30:58. | |
See, I understand the tax code better than anyone that's | :30:59. | :31:01. | |
Hillary Clinton, and it's extremely complex, Hillary Clinton has friends | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
that want all of these provisions, including they want the carried | :31:07. | :31:08. | |
interest provision, which is very important to Wall Street people, | :31:09. | :31:14. | |
but they really want carried interest provision, | :31:15. | :31:16. | |
And very interesting why she is leaving carried interest, | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
but I will tell you that number one I pay tremendous numbers of taxes. | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
I absolutely used it and so did Warren Buffett and so did | :31:25. | :31:27. | |
George Soros and so did many of the other people that | :31:28. | :31:29. | |
Now, I won't mention their names because they are rich, | :31:30. | :31:36. | |
but they are not famous, so we won't make them famous. | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
Can you say how many years you have avoided paying personal | :31:40. | :31:43. | |
No, but I pay tax and I pay federal tax. | :31:44. | :31:46. | |
A lot of it is depreciation, which is a wonderful charge, | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
Hey, if she had a problem, for 30 years she has | :31:51. | :31:57. | |
Why didn't she do something about it? | :31:58. | :32:05. | |
Why doesn't she do something about it? | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
She doesn't do anything about anything other than talk. | :32:09. | :32:10. | |
With her, it's all talk and no action. | :32:11. | :32:12. | |
And again, Bernie Sanders, it's really bad judgment. | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
She has made bad judgment, not only on taxes. | :32:17. | :32:19. | |
She's made bad judgements on Libya, on Syria, on Iraq. | :32:20. | :32:22. | |
I mean, her and Obama, whether you like it or not, | :32:23. | :32:24. | |
the way they got out of Iraq, the vacuum they've left, that's why | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
They started from that little area and now they're in 32 | :32:29. | :32:38. | |
Hillary, congratulations. Great job. | :32:39. | :32:45. | |
I want you to be able to respond, Secretary Clinton. | :32:46. | :32:48. | |
I've been in favour of getting rid of carried interest for years. | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
Starting when I was a senator from New York. | :32:53. | :32:54. | |
Why didn't you do it? Why didn't you do it? | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
Because I was a senator with a Republican president. | :32:59. | :33:00. | |
I will be the President who will get it done. | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
If you were an effective senator, you could have done it. | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
But you were not an effective senator. | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
You know, under our Constitution, presidents have something | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
Look, he has now said repeatedly, "30 years this and 30 years that". | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
So, let me talk about my 30 years in public service. | :33:18. | :33:20. | |
8 million kids, every year, have health insurance because when I | :33:21. | :33:28. | |
was First Lady I worked with Democrats and Republicans to | :33:29. | :33:35. | |
create the Children's Health Insurance Programme. | :33:36. | :33:36. | |
Hundreds of thousands of kids now have a chance to be | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
adopted because I worked to change our adoption | :33:40. | :33:41. | |
After 9/11, I went to work with Republican Mayor, Governor, | :33:42. | :33:50. | |
and President to rebuild New York and to get | :33:51. | :33:53. | |
health care for our first responders who were suffering because they had | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
run toward danger and gotten sickened by it. | :33:57. | :33:57. | |
Hundreds of thousands of National Guard and Reserve | :33:58. | :33:59. | |
members have health care because of work that I did. | :34:00. | :34:02. | |
And children have safer medicines because I was able to pass a law | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
that required the dosing to be more carefully done. | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
When I was Secretary of State, I went around the world, | :34:11. | :34:12. | |
advocating for our country, but also advocating for women's | :34:13. | :34:14. | |
rights, to make sure that women had a decent chance | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
And negotiated a treaty with Russia to lower nuclear weapons. | :34:19. | :34:27. | |
400 pieces of legislation have my name on it, | :34:28. | :34:34. | |
as a sponsor, or co-sponsor, when I was a senator | :34:35. | :34:36. | |
I worked very hard and was very proud to be re-elected in New York | :34:37. | :34:42. | |
by an even bigger margin than I had been elected the first time. | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
And as president, I will take that work, that bipartisan work, | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
that finding common ground, because you have to be able to get | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
along with people to get things done in Washington. | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
And for 30 years, I've produced results for people. | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
She has said a lot of things that are | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
I mean, I think we should be allowed to maybe dispute. | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
She has been a disaster as a Senator. | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
The heartbreaking video of a five-year-old Syrian boy, | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
after being pulled from the rubble after an air strike in Aleppo | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
focused the world's attention on the horrors on the war in Syria | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
with 136 million views on Facebook alone. | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
But there are much worse images coming out of Aleppo every day now | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
where in the past four weeks alone, 400 people have been killed, | :35:37. | :35:39. | |
called for a war crimes investigation of the Syrian | :35:40. | :35:50. | |
and its ally, Russia, for the bombardment of Aleppo. | :35:51. | :35:55. | |
This next question comes from social media through Facebook. | :35:56. | :36:03. | |
Diane from Pennsylvania asks - if you were president, | :36:04. | :36:05. | |
and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo? | :36:06. | :36:08. | |
Isn't it a lot like the Holocaust when the US waited too long | :36:09. | :36:11. | |
we will begin with your two minutes. | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
The situation in Syria is catastrophic. | :36:18. | :36:21. | |
And every day that goes by, we see the results of the regime, | :36:22. | :36:24. | |
by Assad, in partnership with the Iranians on the ground, | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
the Russians in the air, bombarding places, in particular | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
Aleppo, where there are hundreds of thousands of people, | :36:33. | :36:34. | |
probably about 250,000 still left and there is a determined effort | :36:35. | :36:41. | |
Aleppo in order to eliminate the last of the Syrian rebels | :36:42. | :36:51. | |
who are really holding out against the Assad regime. | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
Russia hasn't paid any attention to Isis. | :36:55. | :36:56. | |
They're interested in keeping Assad in power. | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
So I, when I was Secretary of State, advocated, and I advocate today, | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
We need some leverage with the Russians because they | :37:08. | :37:14. | |
are not going to come to the negotiating table | :37:15. | :37:16. | |
for a diplomatic resolution unless there is some | :37:17. | :37:19. | |
We have to work more closely with our partners | :37:20. | :37:26. | |
But I want to emphasise that what is at stake | :37:27. | :37:39. | |
here is the ambitous and aggressiveness of Russia. | :37:40. | :37:42. | |
Russia has decided that it's all in in Syria. | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
They have also decided who they want to see | :37:46. | :37:47. | |
become President of the United States too. | :37:48. | :37:49. | |
I think wherever we can cooperate with Russia, | :37:50. | :37:58. | |
that's fine, and I did as Secretary of State. | :37:59. | :38:01. | |
That's how we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons, | :38:02. | :38:03. | |
it's how we got the sanctions on Iran that put a lod | :38:04. | :38:06. | |
it's how we got the sanctions on Iran that put a lid | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
on the Iranian nuclear programme without firing a single shot. | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
So I would go to the negotiating table with more | :38:16. | :38:17. | |
But I do support the effort to investigate for crimes, | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
war crimes, committed by the Syrians and the Russians | :38:23. | :38:24. | |
First of all, she is there as Secretary of State | :38:25. | :38:33. | |
with the so-called line in the sand, which... | :38:34. | :38:35. | |
No I wasn't, I was gone, I hate to interrupt you. | :38:36. | :38:37. | |
At some point we need to do some fact-checking here. | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
You were in total contact with the White House and perhaps | :38:42. | :38:43. | |
sadly Obama probably still listened to you. | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
I don't think he'll be listening very much any more. | :38:49. | :38:51. | |
It was laughed at all over the world what happened. | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
With that being said, she talks tough against Russia. | :38:57. | :38:58. | |
But our nuclear programme has fallen way behind and they have gone wild | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
Our government shouldn't have allowed that to happen. | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
Russia is new in terms of nuclear, we are old, | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
we are tired, we are exhausted in terms of nuclear. | :39:12. | :39:13. | |
She talks really tough against Putin and against Assad. | :39:14. | :39:19. | |
Every time we take rebels, whether it's in Iraq or anywhere | :39:20. | :39:30. | |
else, we are arming people, and you know what happens? | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
They end up being worse than the people. | :39:34. | :39:36. | |
Look at what she did in Libya with Gadaffi. | :39:37. | :39:38. | |
By the way Isis has a good chunk of their oil. | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
I'm sure you probably have heard that. | :39:45. | :39:46. | |
The fact is almost everything she has done in foreign policy has | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
been a mistake and it's been a disaster. | :39:52. | :39:53. | |
Just take a look at Russia and look at what they did this week | :39:54. | :40:02. | |
where I agree she wasn't there but possibly she was consulted. | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
What Russia did with Assad and, by the way with Iran, | :40:06. | :40:13. | |
who you made very powerful with the dumbest deal, perhaps, | :40:14. | :40:15. | |
I have ever seen in the history of deal making, the Iran | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
deal with $150 billion, with the 1.7 billion in cash | :40:19. | :40:20. | |
which is enough cash to fill up this room. | :40:21. | :40:22. | |
Iran now, and Russia, are now against us. | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
I don't like Assad at all but Assad is killing Isis. | :40:27. | :40:40. | |
Those three have now lined up because of our weak foreign policy. | :40:41. | :40:48. | |
Mr Trump, let me repeat the question. | :40:49. | :40:50. | |
If you were President, what would you do about Syria | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo. | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
I want to remind you what your running mate said. | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
He said provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength, | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
and that if Russia continues to be involved in air strikes, | :41:07. | :41:08. | |
along with the Syrian forces of Assad | :41:09. | :41:12. | |
the United States of America should be prepared to use military force | :41:13. | :41:14. | |
to strike the military targets of the Assad regime. | :41:15. | :41:17. | |
He and I haven't spoken, and I disagree. | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
We have people who want to fight both at the same time. | :41:23. | :41:32. | |
Syria is Russia and it's Iran who she made strong and carry | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
and Obama made into a very powerful nation and a very rich nation, | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
We have to worry about Isis before we can get too much more involved. | :41:41. | :41:51. | |
She had a chance to do something with Syria. | :41:52. | :41:53. | |
What do you think will happen if Aleppo falls? | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
I think Aleppo is a disaster humanitarian-wise. | :42:00. | :42:01. | |
What do you think will happen if it falls? | :42:02. | :42:03. | |
I think that it basically has fallen, OK. | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
You look take a look at Mosul, the biggest problem I have | :42:08. | :42:13. | |
with the stupidity of our foreign policy. | :42:14. | :42:14. | |
They think a lot of the Isis leaders are in Mosul. | :42:15. | :42:18. | |
We have announcements coming out of Washington | :42:19. | :42:20. | |
and coming out of Iraq - we will be attacking Mosul in three | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
All of these bad leaders from Isis are leaving Mosul. | :42:24. | :42:26. | |
make it a sneak attack, and after the attack is made, | :42:27. | :42:41. | |
inform the American public that we have knocked out the leaders, | :42:42. | :42:43. | |
Why do they have to say we are going to be attacking Mosul | :42:44. | :42:49. | |
within the next four to six weeks, which is what they're saying? | :42:50. | :42:51. | |
There are sometimes reasons the military does that. | :42:52. | :42:57. | |
It might be to help get civilians out. | :42:58. | :43:03. | |
Look, I have 200 generals and admirals who endorse me, I have 21 | :43:04. | :43:06. | |
congressional medal of honour recipients who endorse me. | :43:07. | :43:08. | |
Why can't they do something secretly where they go | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
in and they knock out the leadership? | :43:14. | :43:15. | |
How - why would these people stay there? | :43:16. | :43:17. | |
..For weeks about Mosul that it's the harbour, | :43:18. | :43:26. | |
between Raqqa and Mosul, this is where they think | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
Because everybody is talking about how Iraq, which is us, | :43:33. | :43:39. | |
with our leadership, goes into to fight Mosul. | :43:40. | :43:41. | |
With these 200 admirals and generals they can't believe it. | :43:42. | :43:47. | |
All I say is General George Patton, General Douglas | :43:48. | :43:52. | |
MacArthur are spinning in their grave at the stupidity | :43:53. | :43:54. | |
of what we are doing in the Middle East. | :43:55. | :43:56. | |
I'm going to go to Secretary Clinton. | :43:57. | :43:57. | |
Secretary Clinton, you want Assad to go, you advocated arming rebels. | :43:58. | :44:00. | |
But it looks like that may be too late for Aleppo. | :44:01. | :44:04. | |
Would you introduce the threat of US military force beyond a no-fly | :44:05. | :44:14. | |
against the Assad regime to back up diplomacy? | :44:15. | :44:16. | |
I would not use American ground forces in Syria. | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
I think that would be a very serious mistake. | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
I don't think American troops should be holding territory | :44:25. | :44:26. | |
which is what they would have to do as an occupying force. | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
I don't think that is a smart strategy. | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
I do think the use of Special Forces which we are using, the use | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
of enablers and trainers in Iraq, which has had some positive effects. | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
You said that half of Donald Trump's supporters are deplorable, | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
you later said you regretted saying half, you didn't express regret | :44:54. | :44:56. | |
to Mr Carter's question, how can you unite a country | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
if you have written off tens of millions of Americans? | :45:02. | :45:03. | |
Within hours I said I was sorry about the way I talked about. | :45:04. | :45:09. | |
Within hours I said I was sorry about the way I talked about that. | :45:10. | :45:12. | |
Because my argument is not with his supporters, it's with him | :45:13. | :45:15. | |
and with the hateful and divisive campaign that he has run, | :45:16. | :45:18. | |
and the inciting of violence at his rallies and the very brutal | :45:19. | :45:21. | |
kinds of comments about, not just women, but all Americans, | :45:22. | :45:23. | |
What he has said about African Americans and Latinos, | :45:24. | :45:33. | |
about Muslims, about POWs, about immigrants, about | :45:34. | :45:39. | |
people with disabilities, he has never apologised for. | :45:40. | :45:41. | |
So, I do think a lot of the tone and tenor he has set, I am proud | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
of the campaign that Bernie Sanders and I ran. | :45:47. | :45:49. | |
We ran a campaign based on issues, not insults. | :45:50. | :45:51. | |
Because we talked about what we wanted to do. | :45:52. | :45:58. | |
We might have had some differences and we had a lot of debates. | :45:59. | :46:01. | |
But we believed that we could make the country better | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
You look at Baltimore, you look at the violence | :46:06. | :46:19. | |
that is taking place in the inner cities, Chicago. | :46:20. | :46:21. | |
We have a increase in murder within our cities. | :46:22. | :46:25. | |
We have a divided nation because people like her and believe me, | :46:26. | :46:37. | |
she has tremendous hate in her heart, and when she said | :46:38. | :46:39. | |
And when she said irredeemable you didn't mention that. | :46:40. | :46:43. | |
But when she said they are irredeemable, to me that may have | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
She said some of them are irredeemable. | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
She has tremendous hatred and this country cannot take another four | :46:53. | :46:56. | |
years of Barack Obama, and that's what you are | :46:57. | :46:58. | |
We have snuck in one more question. | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
My question to both of you is, regardless of the current | :47:02. | :47:14. | |
rhetoric, would either of you name one positive thing that | :47:15. | :47:16. | |
Mr Trump, would you like to go first? | :47:17. | :47:31. | |
I certainly will because I think that's a very fair | :47:32. | :47:34. | |
His children are incredibly able and devoted and I think that says | :47:35. | :47:42. | |
I don't agree with nearly anything else he says or does | :47:43. | :47:54. | |
I think that is something that as a mother and a grandmother | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
So, I believe that this election has become in part so - | :48:00. | :48:15. | |
so conflict oriented, so intense because there | :48:16. | :48:17. | |
We are going to be choosing a president who will set policy | :48:18. | :48:29. | |
for not just four or eight years but because of some of the important | :48:30. | :48:35. | |
decisions we have to make at home and around the world, from the | :48:36. | :48:52. | |
supreme court and on energy, so there is a lot at stake. | :48:53. | :48:55. | |
It is one of the most consequential elections that we have had. | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
That's why I have tried to put forward lots of specific policies | :48:59. | :49:01. | |
and plans, get it off the personal and put it | :49:02. | :49:03. | |
That's why I hope people will check on that for themselves. | :49:04. | :49:08. | |
So that they can see that yes, I have spent 30 years actually | :49:09. | :49:11. | |
maybe a little more, working to help kids and families | :49:12. | :49:14. | |
and I want to take all that experience to the White House and do | :49:15. | :49:17. | |
Well, I consider her statement about my children to be | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
I don't know if it was meant to be a compliment - but it is. | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
They have done a wonderful job and they have been | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
I disagree with much of what she is fighting for. | :49:31. | :49:45. | |
I do disagree with her judgement and many cases. | :49:46. | :49:48. | |
But she does fight hard and she doesn't quit | :49:49. | :49:50. | |
I consider that to be a very good trait. | :49:51. | :49:58. | |
I want to thank the university here, this concludes the town hall meeting | :49:59. | :50:05. | |
Please tune in for on October 19th for the final presidential debate | :50:06. | :50:18. | |
which will take place at the University of | :50:19. | :50:22. | |
It was a debate that was incredibly personal, it was aggressive at times | :50:23. | :50:42. | |
and there were lots of interruptions and criticisms from the moderators | :50:43. | :50:48. | |
too but not much participation from the audience which is what it was | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
meant to be about, it was meant to be a town hall. This was about | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton and now they have a few weeks to go | :50:56. | :50:58. | |
until the actual election. Will they have changed any of those undecided | :50:59. | :51:04. | |
voters' minds? That's the second presidential debate. One more to | :51:05. | :51:07. | |
come in Las Vegas next week. Stay with us for more coverage through | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
the day and BBC World News America and online. From me, goodbye. | :51:12. | :51:17. | |
That was the highlights of the 90 minute debate. So Howard of the | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
candidates think they did? Hillary Clinton spoke briefly to supporters | :51:21. | :51:25. | |
on board her campaign plane back to New York and gave her reaction to | :51:26. | :51:30. | |
Donald Trump's accusations. I pretty much saw what I expected to see and | :51:31. | :51:36. | |
that's why, you know, the first thing I said was this is something | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
that I've been saying since June, that he's not fit to be President | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
and Commander in Chief and there are a lot of people who said it before, | :51:46. | :51:52. | |
and increasingly more adding that to the chorus. | :51:53. | :51:56. | |
It was a very small space and I tried to give him space when he was | :51:57. | :52:01. | |
talking to people. I would go back and leaned up against my stool. But | :52:02. | :52:09. | |
he was very present. Nothing surprises me about him, really, Dan. | :52:10. | :52:14. | |
I was surprised by the absolute avalanche of falsehoods. I really | :52:15. | :52:19. | |
find it almost unimaginable that someone can stand and just tell, you | :52:20. | :52:30. | |
know, a falsehood after a falsehood. He was said to be the most | :52:31. | :52:32. | |
untruthful candidate ever reevaluated and we did the numbers | :52:33. | :52:39. | |
and I think they said he was 70% untruthful. So I think he exceeded | :52:40. | :52:43. | |
that percentage tonight. Speaking after the debate Donald | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
Trump's campaign manager Kelly, said it went well for him but not for Mrs | :52:49. | :52:53. | |
Clinton. It was a big night for the campaign, Mr Trump won the debate, | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
she did not sufficiently defend herself. You saw a very resolute, | :52:58. | :53:02. | |
principled Donald Trump showing he is ready to be President and | :53:03. | :53:05. | |
Commander in Chief on day one. He took the case on Isis, Syria, | :53:06. | :53:11. | |
Benghazi, over her e-mails, any number of reasons why the majority | :53:12. | :53:15. | |
of Americans find her not to be honest or trustworthy. | :53:16. | :53:17. | |
Ukip Vida Nigel Farage has been formally advising Donald Trump for | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
the debate and played down the video released over the weekend. | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
I went to the convention at Cleveland and it was pretty obvious | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
to me that most of the establishment Republicans don't particularly like | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
this man. C1 the primaries, nobody thought he would do that, I'm not | :53:36. | :53:39. | |
even sure he thought he would do that. -- Ahye won the primaries. It | :53:40. | :53:46. | |
is unusual but it shows that there are a large number of Americans not | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
happy. A large number of Americans looking for genuine change in | :53:52. | :53:56. | |
policy, and that ultimately will be Hillary's weakness. Did we not hear | :53:57. | :53:59. | |
enough about immigration to night? You said he was on message but we | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
haven't heard him talk about the wall or any of the other major | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
policy ideas. No, had we had immigration questions tonight he | :54:09. | :54:13. | |
would have won even bigger. Republicans watching the debate from | :54:14. | :54:16. | |
long beach in California praised Donald Trump's performance but | :54:17. | :54:20. | |
appeared divided on who won. To be honest, I don't even think | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
there was a winner, to be completely honest. I think it's almost exactly | :54:25. | :54:32. | |
like the first debate. I kind of heard the exact same things. I will | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
say Trump did a better job in pointing out the things the public | :54:37. | :54:39. | |
wanted him to point out and I'm sure Hillary pointed out the things the | :54:40. | :54:43. | |
Democrats wanted her to point out. But at the same point I think it's | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
already decided. Those undecided voters, I'm not sure this helps | :54:49. | :54:51. | |
them. The fact is Donald Trump performed a lot better and he put | :54:52. | :54:57. | |
Hillary Clinton on the defensive this time. His performance was | :54:58. | :55:04. | |
better but for me it's too early to figure out who won the debate. But I | :55:05. | :55:08. | |
can say that Donald Trump did perform better and Hillary was on | :55:09. | :55:14. | |
the defence. I think he has a lot of skills and together they add up to | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
be very fundamental full. Is not the greatest debater -- formidable. But | :55:19. | :55:25. | |
I thought he did well and landed some shots. Every time Hillary | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
Clinton tried to bring up the tape that unfortunately came out one or | :55:33. | :55:35. | |
two days ago he reminded her that your husband has a track record that | :55:36. | :55:38. | |
far exceeds anything I've ever seen and he was right to do that because | :55:39. | :55:42. | |
if she is going attack him on just some childish comments. I went to an | :55:43. | :55:49. | |
all boys Catholic high school. I know of comments like that. It is a | :55:50. | :55:55. | |
guy thing. She has to get over it. I think his apology was sincere. He | :55:56. | :55:59. | |
answered the question right off the top, right away, move on. | :56:00. | :56:04. | |
And there is more on the US presidential debate on our website. | :56:05. | :56:10. | |
For highlights, reaction and analysis head to bbc.co.uk/ US 2016. | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
We also have another special highlights programme at 8pm tonight. | :56:15. | :56:19. | |
The headlines coming upon the BBC News Channel. In a moment we will | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
say goodbye to viewers on BBC Two but first a look at the weather. | :56:27. | :56:30. | |
It will be quite an autumnal week and as we head into the latter part | :56:31. | :56:36. | |
of this week easterly winds will pick up and make it feel even | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
chillier. That said there should be a lot of sunshine around, | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
particularly to start the week and across western areas of the country, | :56:44. | :56:46. | |
most showers in the north and east, like I mentioned it will turn | :56:47. | :56:49. | |
cooler. This area of high pressure is dominating the scene, over | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
Scandinavia feeding in north-easterly winds across the UK. | :56:55. | :56:58. | |
You would expect it to be more exposed across north-eastern areas | :56:59. | :57:01. | |
and we have a nagging breeze and some showers that will continue to | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
feed in to central areas and some could be heavy with hail and | :57:06. | :57:08. | |
thunder. Lincolnshire down into Yorkshire and also for East Anglia. | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
Showers hit and miss, some of them quite heavy blustery and feeling | :57:14. | :57:18. | |
caught close to the coast. Further south and to the south-west and in | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
towards Wales, north-west England and much of western and Northern | :57:23. | :57:27. | |
Ireland it is a fine looking day. Variable cloud, sunshine appearing | :57:28. | :57:29. | |
across Northern Ireland after what has been a cloudy start. Temperature | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
wise on the poolside if you catch any cloud, 11-13, maybe 14 Celsius. | :57:34. | :57:40. | |
The showers will linger across eastern areas this evening into the | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
first part of the night, generally they will fizzle out slowly but | :57:45. | :57:47. | |
there will be some across eastern Scotland and the far south-east. | :57:48. | :57:51. | |
Another chilly night to come under clear skies particularly, | :57:52. | :57:54. | |
temperatures in rural areas one or 2 degrees, and a touch of frost in | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
some of the Scottish Glens. On Tuesday a lovely bright start and | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
crisp sunshine but it will be quite cold. Through the day clouds will | :58:03. | :58:20. | |
build up and it will be a cloudy day through Tuesday afternoon compared | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
to what we will see this afternoon. Although temperatures will be up a | :58:25. | :58:27. | |
bit because of the cloud around and the increasing breeze it will feel | :58:28. | :58:29. | |
that bit cooler. On Wednesday again we will see fresh easterly breeze | :58:30. | :58:31. | |
pushing in the showers too many central and eastern areas, many | :58:32. | :58:33. | |
prolonged areas of rain, brightness preserved in western areas. | :58:34. | :58:35. | |
Temperatures around the low to mid teens Celsius. As we head into | :58:36. | :58:38. | |
Wednesday and Thursday this area of low pressure into the bay of Biscay | :58:39. | :58:40. | |
pushes northwards and bumps into the area of high in the north, and it | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
will squeeze the isobars and we will get strong easterly breezes across | :58:45. | :58:46. | |
the country, pretty chilly on Thursday and Friday, temperatures | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
10-14dC. Loss of cloud and outbreaks of rain closer to the east coast. | :58:51. | :58:55. | |
The wind is starting -- this week starts well and through the week it | :58:56. | :58:57. | |
will turn windy in Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. | :58:58. | :59:04. | |
Fight fire with fire. | :59:05. | :59:08. |