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Webb shows his strength and he is over. And the Ospreys are running

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away with it. Tom James goes all the way himself. And that is a superb

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try for the Blues. Brilliant breakaway. They have with bin finish

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the difficult places to go but this weekend, the Ospreys and Cardiff

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Blues have done just that. Gareth Thomas and Phil Davies are our

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guests this evening. We would be talking premises, Pro12 and the

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Lions. We start with a trip to the Galway sports ground. Bradley Davies

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was one of three changes to the Ospreys along with scrum-half Rhys

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Webb. After hat-trick of tries last week, Sam Parry kept his placed

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header Scott Baldwin. Connacht made four changes.

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COMMENTATOR: Webb shows his strength and he is over. You really can't

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afford to give that man much space. Bradley Davies, as you would expect,

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making a nuisance of himself in the middle. He comes in and clears out.

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Jack Carthy doubles his scores and that of Connacht. Still they keep

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coming. Dillane, it is an opportunity. And they deserve that

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for the excellent build-up, well controlled by the half-backs. Just

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what the Ospreys needed. An opportunity, though hesitation in

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going for the sticks. -- no hesitation. Solid strike and that

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was a very important kick for the Ospreys. Webb organising, James

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stands off and weights. He goes to the left-hand side.

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Wrapped up, that is John and can he get away? He is being chased by

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Healy but he does exceptionally well, what a great tackle. Rhys Webb

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goes over for his second try and surely you would say that is the

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type that seals the victory. Looks like they will try and have some fun

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in the last five minutes. He puts the ball into space. The Ospreys are

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running away with it. The drive comes over the top. I think the

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Canadian has done very well. Turned it over. Rhys Webb, kicks it over

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the dead-ball line. 32-11, four tries, two for Rhys Webb. The

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backline had accuracy, we stayed with it. Fantastic result for

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spread, a bonus point for them and the stats tell the story. Best on

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stats and scoreboard, it seems the Ospreys have undergone a renaissance

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in the off-season. A disappointing season last year, they have

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rediscovered their mojo. It was a fantastic victory, not just the

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actual game but the way they played. For me, what I saw of it, I like the

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way the back three worked. They all wanted to get their hands on the

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ball. You could see it went through the whole team. Not just the first

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touch but the second, looking for the ball. They are on a high at the

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moment, a confident team and with the players they have, a dangerous

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team. It is all about attitude and Galway, you have to impose yourself

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early and Ospreys did exactly that. What impressed me, they know that

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Connacht were hurting from the first game. They set about moving the ball

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and keeping the ball and the ball control generally was excellent in

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the first 15 or 20 minutes, they dominated possession. They kept the

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ball, as you can see here, coming over the halfway line and keeping

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it. That took the Connacht mojo away from them if you like. Webb as we

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know is a great scrum-half in terms of playing the forwards around the

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corner. They kept the ball. They had a few turnovers but then they were

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challenging in the line-out. In act-macro in that first 20 minutes

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could not get a foothold in the game. It was a great turnover and a

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great pass and they kept the ball. If you are coming off the back of a

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bad loss, you want to start with a bang. Rhys Webb and Sam Davies are

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two of the best generals, game management is critical playing away

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from home. We made the point last week that even when the game was out

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of sight, they didn't chuck the ball around, they stuck to their plan.

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Connacht started the second half quite well. They scored. This is the

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Ospreys coming back. Rhys Webb is highlighted. What I liked about

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this, great driving control but not a big kick. Eight dink over the top

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which made their defender work hard to get back. It made the full-back

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worked really hard. Sam Davies with a great take. He just can't get

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there, what a catch. Good control as well by Sam. He is involved,, you

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have a hooker here who has come out with great skill. Webb pushes

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himself a bit wider and he pushes it in, the real nugget here was

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Connacht taking it back into their 22. This allowed Tyler Adler, after

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a few good phrases, it allowed him to score. That gave him the momentum

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in the last ten minutes. Good to see him back after most of last year

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missing through injury. By way of contrast, Connacht, the defending

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champions, they are bottom of the table, conceding 79 points and ten

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tries in two games, what has happened? Lou macro it is difficult

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with expectations, nobody expected them to win the league last year,

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now they have the back it up. Teams will be more prepared because they

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are playing the champions. They were out thought, yesterday. You would

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say go back to the drawing board but that is what they have just done

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after the pre-season. They can't rewrite everything because they only

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have a certain amount of time until next week 's game. There has to be

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something there but as players and coaches, they need to get in a room

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and find out what it is. Something is missing and only the players know

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what it is. As the public watch it, I can see the end easy as is not

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what it was. They had a hand on the ball, it is not the same as it was

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last year for some reason. May be missing some players more than they

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thought they would. Congratulations to Ospreys, that win took them top

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of the Pro12 table. The Blues travel to Cork on Friday night and were

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able to maintain a move which -- winning start to the season. Gethin

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Jenkins and Gareth Anscombe were promoted from the bench to the

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starting line-up. Josh Turnbull made his first start of the season. Sam

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Warburton's season began on the bench. Two changes for Leinster

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after winning last week. COMMENTATOR: Superb run by Dan Fish.

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Tom James is in support of Nick Williams. Good counter by the Blues.

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Williams has two men on his outside, Dan Fish is one and Cory Allen

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hasn't quite got it to get through to the corner, good tackle by Rory

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Scannell puts him out. Anscombe, and fish involved again. Tom James

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coming up, Tom James goes all the way himself, that is a great score

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for Tom James and the Blues. They threatened earlier with a counter,

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this time they finished it off. Jack O'Donoghue, advantage played for

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offside. Into the 22. Lovely pick-up and the support was there from

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Andrew Conway. So disappointing for the Blues after the great start, to

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give away a try like that. There is the tap down. Great run, has support

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either side, Tom James on the inside. Tom James is too quick for

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O'Donoghue and that is a great try, a second superb try for Tom James.

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Tremendous effort from the Blues to keep out Munster, time after time

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they are knocking at the door. Duncan Williams tries to go

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underneath. Incredible pressure. He has a go. Kilcoyne has got there.

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Brilliant play by Matthew Morgan. Well done to Lloyd Williams. It is

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on for Dan Fish and he can't get over and that is a superb try --

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canters over. Really it break away and so many good handling skills

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resulting in a third try. Dan Fish restores the Blues lead in a

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ding-dong battle. To come here and win, last week was a good

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performance, we showed you have to have a bench and have real impact

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there. Huge credit to this group, we have come out with a huge win. Last

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season, the Blues only won once on the road, and they already have an

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away win and in Munster. How big a statement? Victory of the weekend.

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As Danny Wilson said, to back-up last weekend, a very impressive

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performance. To go somewhere like Munster. Undoubtedly one of the

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toughest places in Europe to go and come away with a victory is amazing.

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What I found really impressive was the strength in depth. They brought

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players off the bench, Sam Warburton came off the bench and did well. And

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then Matthew Morgan, everybody wanting to see what he can do, one

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touch lights up the game and he puts Dan Fish in for the winning try.

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Great confidence going forward. Quite a cameo by Matthew Morgan. You

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were there in Cork on Friday night. Just before kick-off, the weather

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conditions were not conducive to running rugby but it cleared up in

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the back three were on fire. Yes, an investment into the umbrella was

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great. It was perfect. Dan Fish, as I know from my time, as a coach, he

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is a great run at the back. The back three were well positioned and

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alert. And alive to any other opportunity. Lloyd is one of your

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best scrum-half support players and Daniel Fish comes over for a great

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try. He had eight refit game. Tom James is coming back to form, great

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to see him in Wales after his work in Exeter. But like the Blues, they

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move it wide. Tom can see the mismatch as the Munster prop and

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hooker are there. He gets over for a great score. For those two or

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living, they were excellent and very important. Great to see him back,

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the region's highest try scorer and I think we will see a few more this

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season. Like with the Ospreys, the Blues not just throwing it around

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but they had a tactical approach that allowed them to attack with

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conviction. Absolutely. Their control generally. Was the end of

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the game, Kristian Dacey is highlighted, the Corner had just

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come, Munster just coming from a driving line-out. Their discipline

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there was flat -- fantastic. Working the inside shoulder. They win the

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penalty and then they get the ball off the top of the line-out. It is

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good control and set up play. Coming towards the end of the game. Tom

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Williams with a great kicking cradle, a really high kick and as we

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saw with Rhys Webb, he pulls the Munster full-back forward. McCoy was

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outstanding all night, they get a good drive and great control. You

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can hear Lloyd Williams communicating well with the

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forwards, orchestrating them to keep the control. They are not going far

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here. He goes hard. Dan Fish, Cory Allen, clearing out. You can see a

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plan, there is a real maturity starting to develop. That play gets

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them the victory. For me, he has created a squad, the depth of squad

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has improved and there is a growing maturity in the group, I fancy the

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Blues to have a terrific season. Glasgow are next, who have been on

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fire for the first two weeks. A cracking victory against Leinster

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yesterday. Tommy Seymour, Ford tries out of the five they scored

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altogether. They wed be fazed by what they see at Cardiff Arms Park

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but Gregor Townsend's men really impressing so far. What will the

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Blues need to do to step up? Because under a plea this would be the

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toughest game. It will be, both teams have an intent to play rugby

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and they are strong defensively. Glasgow, if you turn the ball over

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and have poor kicks, they will attack with menace. As Tom Seymour

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shows there, he goes on the broken field and he can score from set

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plays. It will be important for the Blues, the line-out is going really

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well. The scrum can improve but he knows that. Get the platform right,

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the breakdown looks good. And defensively, they really well

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organised. Graham Steadman has come in and they are well-organised. The

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tickly the inside shoulder where the defenders are keeping busy.

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Sometimes Glasgow like to do the switches or the ball back inside and

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the Blues will just be ready. Looking forward to that one.

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Speaking of tasty ties, the West Wales derby was probably the pick of

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the round in the Premiership this weekend.

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The sun was shining on Carmarthen Park as Llanelli arrive for the

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first local derby of the season. On a perfect day for rugby, they were

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looking to keep that winning feeling. The head coaches share an

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office, who would be enjoying their day in the sun? COMMENTATOR: Lee

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Williams making his way. A quick ball for Connor Lloyd. He finds

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Evans, beautiful hands by Myhill. And Osborne finishes it off with

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beautiful handling. The inside ball to Lee Williams and gliding over.

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Quins looking to move it again. Inside two Connor Lloyd. And the

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scrum-half with a handoff finishes that one. That is the third. Lee

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Williams again with a scuttle inside. To the post, Lee Williams

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for the second and that is the bonus point as well. Nathan Edwards will

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just about make it. Here is Gethin Robinson on the loose. Clancy back

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inside. Under the sticks to finish it off. We are progressing to a

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wider game and using the set piece as a platform to play. We put a lot

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of work into it, the boys have done a lot themselves. Coaching staff

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have been brilliant. It is good to see the hard work and the new things

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trying coming. It was billed as the battle between the Thomas Brothers

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and it was Sam who came out on top. They took an early 11-0 lead. Life

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back in the Premiership isn't easy for Swansea, suffering the second

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successive home defeat. Aberavon ran in seven tries. Jack Perkins was

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shown a red card full and late tackle. Another high-scoring match

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as there were another seven tries, securing a bonus point by half-time.

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It was the visitors worst league defeat for six years. Last season,

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Cross Keys did the double over Bridgend but this time the ravens

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came out on top as they came from behind to secure their first win of

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the season. Cross Keys is the only Premiership team without a point so

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far. A second away win on the trot for our GC shows they are a force to

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be reckoned with. One of four unbeaten teams in the league. On the

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breed game was postponed. -- Pontypridd.

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Lee Jarvis was on the show last week after Murphy opened their account,

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Mark Jones is we, the Head Coach. They are currently third in the

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league, two from two, one of four teams undefeated. The new boys

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looking to bloody some noses. It has been a good start. Probably Bridgend

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and Neath in the last couple of seasons have had the most

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transition. They are more evenly matched in some of the more

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established teams. You can't fault the effort, they are put a lot of

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hard work into key areas and it has paid off. We know the legal split

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into two conferences after 15 rounds. Ambitions of the new teams

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will have been to just survive. But serious ambitions to make that top

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eight now. We have not made any targets, we are just establishing

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the side in the division in terms of our brand of rugby. The style of

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play we are going to try and implement and test that each week.

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To be successful, you need consistency in your execution. What

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we have shown is that we are able to sustain error-free rugby for large

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periods. We need to put some sparkle into key areas that we have the

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players who can do it. You live in Neath, can you show your face? You

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may quit it was an interesting afternoon, that is the beauty of it,

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you get to travel round the local clubs in South Wales which is great.

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And a sabbatical to North Wales once a week as well to hopefully get a

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couple of good performances in front of the home crowd. We are well

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supported at the moment with buses coming down on a regular basis and

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hopefully we can take this form back to North Wales next weekend. A dream

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start for you and long may it continue. Phil Davies was involved

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until last season, I am sure he will take some of the credit. Back to the

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Pro12 and the Dragons welcomed zebra to Rodney Parade.

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Thomas Davies made his debut with Lewis Evans returning to bolster the

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back row. Moss and Morgan also made their first starts of the season.

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After losing by 50 points last week against Ospreys, zebra rocked up

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having never won there. And all of the scoring came in the first half,

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two penalties each. The only joy came from the Dragons. Howard, his

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second in two matches. His side are up and running, no such thing as a

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bad win and all that but they need to get better. It is important we

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get a win, we tried to play a different way and that came through

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but we overplayed. We made too many errors. Our set piece is not quite

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where it should be. Ultimately there was a chance to get a bonus point

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win. We failed to do it. No such thing as a bad win, the Dragons were

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desperate for one, their first victory in the league since January.

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But far from convincing. I spoke to him last week and he said they

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wanted to play a new brand of rugby and try and throw it around a bit

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more. When you have younger players, they are not sure when to do that.

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As he alluded to, a bit of overplaying. I love the fact they

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are going to have a go but they have to learn to be able to build solid

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performances from good fundamentals. The set piece is something they need

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to improve and that will be a focus for them. The intent is there to

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play and that is the key thing. Scoreless in the second half, that

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is quite an ordeal for the spectators. We talk about attracting

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more spectators to this Lee, a scoreless second half is not the way

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to go. As a Dragons fan, you would have been expecting to see more

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tries. Zebra for all of their effort are properly one of the worst teams

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in the league. If they can't implement the game plan against

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zebra, are they going to be able to do it against the better teams in

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the league? Will they be able to play that way this year. It does

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scare me but you look at it and hope that through a victory, they can

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gain confidence. The manner of the victory, you can sit there and

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analyse it after, you can't say what you achieved. Munster next for the

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Dragons and they have a week to try and improve things. We will let you

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know how they get on but we will try something different now. At a time

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when many grassroots clubs are struggling we have visited one West

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Wales village the club has been reborn, 16 years after disappearing

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altogether. Friday evening and we finished work for the week. While

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most 21 euros would be thinking about going out and having fun,

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Nathan Jones has other priorities as he makes the 50 minute journey from

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his home to ferry side rugby club. He happens to be player, coach, club

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secretary, you name it, he probably does it. What motivates young blood

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to get involved so dramatically like this? As a teenager coming down to

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ferry side, this rugby pitch and the club was like a ghost town. The

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unfortunate passing of Evans, he was a legend, it gave an opportunity to

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get the team back together to play once a year. Since then, we have had

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two games and it has grown since then. We managed to get a team in

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the league now and hopefully we will be successful. It does get stressful

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but I get a massive buzz out of it and I can't complain. It is a

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feeling of giving something back to such a small community. I've got to

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give him all the help he can get, he gets ahead of himself sometimes.

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Saying that he can't do this, the things he can do everything but he

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can't. You have to have support and you have to get the community to

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support as well. In November and the pitch is wet, you lose one, maybe

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another and the injuries mount up, that is where the difficulty comes

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in, are you prepared for that? That is when they call me on as a super

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sub at 55. The sport has been my life. Is that why there is a

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paramedic bag? You must be proud and pleased to see them back up and

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playing again. I am pleased there is a team here. What would you do

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without rugby this Chamakh there is no point or anything, is there? What

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has it been like for the last 16 years without a team? It has been

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sad because we had a good team. I am pleased the boys have got together

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and we will have the team and ferry side is on the map. A big day and

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you are excited because your fella is playing. Stuart, number three.

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They are your local rivals, but I go happy to see Ferryside I?

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Absolutely. I live in Ferryside. There is great support today.

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Hopefully it will continue. It is always good to see a any club that

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has unfortunately disbanded, to see them coming back. It has been hard

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work to put aside together today. We have used 18-year-olds. Do you think

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it will keep going? Hopefully, if we get the support, the community get

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behind them, hopefully they can sustain it. Over the men. All of the

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hard work for the last seven weeks, it has shown. This was probably our

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toughest test this season. We have eight or nine players eyed. For boys

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to come in and do a job like today, I cannot see any more. -- cannot

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say. There are few things

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as exciting in international rugby than the prospect

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of And on Wednesday, world rugby's

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worst kept secret was finally out when Warren Gatland was revealed

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as the head coach for next summer's Ladies and gentlemen, it is my

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privilege as tour manager to announce that the head coach for the

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2017 British and Irish Lions tour to New Zealand is Warren Gatland. One

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of the things are about the Lions, is the tradition and ethos, taking

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part in community things, charity things, making sure we embrace the

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communities as well. If we do that and have some open training

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sessions, get out to the schools and hospitals, the New Zealanders will

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massively respect that. If we play some good rugby, they will be

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parochial, they will not allow us anything and get behind their team,

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but if an Lions team goes there and plays good rugby, they will love

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that and it will respect and get behind the Lions as well. That is

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our challenge. One man who knows all about the enormity of the challenges

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the 2005 Lions captain Gareth Thomas. Warren Gatland making an

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interesting point. Australia, you can hide from the scrutiny, but they

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New Zealand, it is a Rugby nation. You have got to manage the pressure.

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Yes, the pressure and the expectancy. It is the most difficult

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place in the world to play rugby. Let alone the itinerary they have.

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You have got to be respectful. You have got to be respectful of what

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you are about as a rugby player and a British line steam. You're going

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there to be successful. Not many teams have done it. There is lots of

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psychology. You have to be strong physically but mentally. Talking of

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the brutality of the itinerary and the challenge that awaits them, look

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at the schedule. It has been dubbed Mission impossible by some people.

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Ten games, all five super rugby teams, I match against the

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Barbarians, I match against the New Zealand Maoris. Not to mention the

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three tests. Where do you stand on this? This will make it even harder

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and preparation time will be a bare minimum? It is an unbelievably

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difficult schedule. It is almost 15-0 to New Zealand because they

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have set this up. In 2005, what I encountered, quickly we had to get

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the midweek team and the test team. A display to divide in the camp.

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With the schedule this line steam has, he will have to do the same.

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There is no way you can go back to back against the super franchises.

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They are like international teams. You cannot prepare for a test in

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between. New Zealand have been shrewd in the way they have said to

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Warren Gatland, how are you going to handle this? Are you going to split

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the camp, you will have a midweek team are testing? Will you keep

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everyone together? It is a strange atmosphere when you

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split the teams. That is something that Warren Gatland probably does

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not want to do. Can you first see a smaller squad. It was a 45 man squad

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with you guys under Clive Woodward? It was too big. I think he will try

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and take a smaller squad. When you look at the schedule after a

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difficult season, the Premiership, PRO12, guys will be tired. By the

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end of the tour, Clive was trying to first see that he would not bring

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players in. You try to take everyone together. If he takes a smaller

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party, people will have to fly over. They will have to get over the jet

:33:28.:33:31.

lag and a routine. It is easier if you have them there with you, ready

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and prepared. Who will be the captain? There are three main

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contenders. That may change with the autumn internationals and the Six

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Nations. Alun Wyn Jones, Sam Warburton, the incumbent Lions

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captain, and Dylan Hartley, who has recently captained England to a

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Grand Slam and a 3-0 whitewash in Australia. Who would you pay? They

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are all good leaders and they will all play a big role in whether the

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tour is successful. For me, I would go for Dylan Hartley. We talk about

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the mental and physical edge. What Dylan Hartley has is experience of

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beating the try nation teams, being part of an England team that has

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gone to Australia and has defeated them. Warren Gatland has knowledge

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as a New Zealander. You want knowledge from people who want to

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beat these teams. Not just out to be one of them, but how to beat them.

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Gareth Thomas selects Dylan Hartley, the Englishman. That is his captain.

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I'm sure there will be a backlash on social media. Rob Howley has stepped

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into the breach to fill the vacancy left by Warren Gatland as head

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coach. His hands will be tied to a degree by the imposition of the

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so-called Gatland's Law. We are working hard, trying to keep players

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in Wales. It was going to be tougher Rob and myself. The selection

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policy, there will be big names that will miss out in the autumn, in

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terms of not being involved in the squad. It will be quite dramatic.

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The Six Nations will be tough. In Warren Gatland's words, dramatic.

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That was on Wednesday, Friday, the list of the seven players captured

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by Gatland's Law was published. Those players playing their rugby

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outside of Wales. He only has three wild card picks. Those are the

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seven. We talked on Friday night about who might be missing out. I

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guess Rhys Priestland, because he is not number one for club or country

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any more, he will probably be one of the four big names to make side. You

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played some of your best rugby in Toulouse. If before you left you had

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been told that if you're left Toulouse, you would have given up

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your Wales jersey, would you have thought about it? I would not have

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gone. Having seen what it was like on the other side, it made me a

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better person. The four years I spent there, I won the European cup.

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I would never have done that with any of the teams in Wales. I have

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played in French championship finals in front of big crowds. I became

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better as a player. For me, going away was the best thing I ever did.

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I understand we want to see the players playing in the region but we

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do not want to hold them back. Without the fans, we have got

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nothing. We are potentially going to find ourselves in a situation where

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the Six Nations comes around and we're expecting fans to pay ?80 for

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a ticket to see a Welsh team that might not be the full strength Welsh

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team. Is that they are? Not really. I understand what the union are

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trying to do, but echoing the points of Garrett, the experience he had,

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for me, you can translate that bike into a better player coming home for

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the benefit of Wales. I am for the fans as well, who do not see certain

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players week in, week out. We want to see as many as we can. It is

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tough. I understand what the union are trying to do but you need your

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best talent on the field, trying to win test matches. Another debate

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that will rage on as the autumn approaches. Rob Howley has to pick

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his first squad, potentially short of some of those players we saw on

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of some of those players we saw on the list.

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One more PRO12 game to catch up with this week,

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and the Scarlets were hoping to recover from their opening

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round defeat when they travelled to Edinburgh.

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The Scarlets made seven changes, including Olympic medallist James

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Davies after his return from the Rio Olympics. His brother returned after

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a two-year stint in France. Aled Davies replace Gareth Davies at

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scrum-half. Edinburgh made five changes from last week's defeat.

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John Hardie returned in the back row. This is an opportunity for the

:38:08.:38:14.

Scarlets to come again. What on earth is John Hardie doing? The

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right foot deep tech, Patchell. That looks like it might be better. It

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has just about got there. -- aid is a right footed kick. That will ease

:38:34.:38:43.

the nerves of Scarlets. Ball on the floor. Barclay needs to get out of

:38:44.:38:52.

there. Williams has made a mess of it. There is a mass of dead ball

:38:53.:38:58.

area. Michael Allen has taken full advantage.

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-- massive. The Scarlets need to be careful. They have started to get

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ragged. It has been coming. That is brainless play from a man who is a

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senior player and an international. That is a great price by Jonathan

:39:25.:39:39.

Davies. And the rest of his colleagues in the midfield.

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Edinburgh have been forced to take. That is a stinker of a kick. It will

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produce a try. Just what they did not need. Magnus Bradbury, I sigh of

:39:48.:39:57.

relief. Edinburgh get a try in injury time. Here comes Ball. The

:39:58.:40:04.

screen pass around the back. I too Steff Evans. Great defence. The ball

:40:05.:40:10.

is in play. They cannot get it down. Hats off to the Edinburgh defence.

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Another disappointing defeat for the Scarlets. There is the league table.

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They are down intense. It has a strange look to it with the

:40:22.:40:25.

defending champions at the bottom. The Ospreys are leading the charge

:40:26.:40:30.

at the top. Garrett, this was the year the Scarlets were supposed to

:40:31.:40:33.

shame, the backline that is supposedly the envy of Europe. Last

:40:34.:40:39.

season the won their first six in a row but they have just lost their

:40:40.:40:43.

first two, their worst ever start in the PRO12. It is quite a shock to

:40:44.:40:48.

see. When you look at the players on the field, talking about Wales and

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Lions, Lions are about blocking. You play for the region and then you go

:40:55.:40:57.

onto the Lions. Players are in contention for them yet they are not

:40:58.:41:04.

playing well for the region. It is quite surprising. A region like

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Scarlets, so much expected of them, and yet two game in and they are

:41:10.:41:15.

chasing tales already. Scott Williams went off the page with a

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fairly nasty facial injury. A quick update, you can see the blood

:41:22.:41:25.

flowing, Scarlets have said he is fine. Six stitches and no

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concussion. He should be in contention next week. How much are

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they missing some of those front five players? They are looking

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underpowered in that department. Rob Evans and Samson Lee are sidelined.

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That is two thirds of the Welsh front row. Yes, you can name Phil

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John as well. They are missing, for me they are missing about five

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players. The more prominent front five forwards. Guys who have left

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and guys who are injured. It will be a blow for them. In the two games

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they have had, it is important for the coaching team to work on the

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basics, get your set piece right, you're kicking game and provide

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players with certainty, where they can build their confidence in their

:42:17.:42:19.

performance. That will be important going into the next couple of weeks.

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I think there are going to Ravenhill next weekend. That is the featured

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game on Scrum V. It is not an easy place to go. They need certainty and

:42:31.:42:36.

simplicity to build confidence. They need to get the front five forwards

:42:37.:42:40.

back as soon as possible. That is the technical things to work on, but

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from an emotional point of view, they look low on confidence. If you

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were in the changing room, what would you say? Have a look around.

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Look at the guy who midfield partner, an international and the

:42:55.:42:59.

British line. Look at your fullback and your blog. They have quality.

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Someone in the group looks to take ownership of the group and take with

:43:05.:43:08.

them. At the moment, they are looking for a big hitter. I have got

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to stop you there. We will continue this emotional speech of fear. That

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is it for Scrum V. Proms In The Park follows on BBC Two Wales. This is

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something to get you in the mood. That is a great chip and chase. Has

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he got the legs? He has. Fantastic. Nobody, but nobody is going to get

:43:43.:43:43.

anywhere near him. Hello and welcome to BBC

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