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for student tuition fees - a fairer deal promised for those

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Tonight a broad welcome for the Diamond Review

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We do celebrate that Diamond has targeted support at those who the

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most because widening access should be a core mission for Welsh

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education. They're our youngest patients

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but children's doctors say the Welsh NHS needs to tackle

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shortfalls in babies' care. We have got Jeremy Corbyn as leader

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whether we like it or not. BOOING.. Boos for a Welsh delegate

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at the Labour conference questioning Jeremy Corbyn's

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appeal as leader. And 60% of adults say they've

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suffered as a result of someone around

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them abusing alcohol. On a night out you get people

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fighting. That happens every night you go out.

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from poorer backgrounds, but an end to grants

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covering tuition fees - some of the recommendations

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of a major report into funding higher education in Wales.

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The review - carried out by Professor Ian Diamond -

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recommends focussing help with living costs,

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with every student here likely to get ?1,000 a year.

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Here's our education correspondent Bethan Lewis.

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Covering the costs of higher education, both the student

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and the taxpayer contribute but getting the balance

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Diamond wants to see an end to the current system under which the Welsh

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Government pays around ?5,000 per year towards Welsh students

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University course fees. He wants a new maintenance grant established

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instead. A new system, a maintenance grant to the great majority of

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students so that they have money in their pockets while they are

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students, and then the fees are paid back when they get the benefit from

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higher education in a job subsequent to graduation. The new living costs

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glad we mean everywhere else shouldn't we get at least ?1000 per

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year but that could be as much as ?9,100, depending on their household

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income. The report says that the average wealth student would get

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around ?7,000. This student is in the second year

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of her course at Cardiff University. She has received a tuition fee grant

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and taken out a loan but with more than ?1000 per term to pay in rent

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to make ends meet she has taken on two part-time jobs. She has

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estimated she will leave university with student loan debt of around

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?20,000. She said she had to look carefully at finances before

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deciding to go to university. It is a big worry. As my course worth it?

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Well I have a job? If I was not 100% sure that I wanted to study politics

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I do not think I would have gone to university just in case the course

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was not for me and I was still have that much debt. Student

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representatives and university bosses were on Professor Diamond's

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panel and they say that concerns have been addressed. Students will

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be leaving university with debt and in an ideal world we would not want

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bats but in the current economic climate we celebrate that Diamond

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has targeted support towards those that need it most because that

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should be a core access of education. There have been big

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concerns about the affordability of the current system and for getting

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rid of the glance towards tuition fees would save around ?100 million,

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under Professor Diamond's plan that money would be pumped back into

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higher education, including more help for postgraduates and part-time

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students. Overall, he says, his plan would cost the same. This afternoon

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the Education Secretary outlined her response. She accepts the

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principles. There will be a closer look no further details and the

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costs. What is important to me is that we do have an affordable system

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going forward. We do not want to have two but that this system and a

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couple of years' time. One of the things I am very carefully as it

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affordable and sustainable in the longer term. Any changes will not be

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introduced for at least two years so it will not affect this group of

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students but today's report looks set to establish a new deal for

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students. Live to our Political Editor.

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Student tuition fees has been a flagship Welsh Government policy.

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He submitted as this proposed change? In policy terms this has

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been a headline grabbing policy and something that was a major point of

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devolved difference between Wales and England. Many people saw it as a

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way of financially helping people put their children through

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university and that was considered very jealous. Its generosity was in

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the end its downfall. Politically it looks as though this is a done deal.

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I understand that it hurts broadly accepted in its entirety by the

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Welsh cabinet and judging by the tone of the opposition voices this

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afternoon there will not be any major issues here. The review has

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been rumbling on for a couple of years. In the assembly campaign

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labour Barcelona the issue but they did say repeatedly that Welsh

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students would not be laden with debt. That is not strictly true

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because in order to pay their tuition fees they will have to take

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student loans. Professor Diamond told me this morning that one of the

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big lessons from England in recent years is that student loans to pay

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for tuition fees does not deterred them from going to university. The

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real deterrent they believe is the actual day-to-day cost of being a

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student. Clearly that argument has won throughout the highest levels of

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the Welsh Government. What about the concern about the

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current system, that's too much money ends up feeling about

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education system? That is right with the current

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system that money follows the students rather than the

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institution. The key point here is that even with the new system, that

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principle of portability has been accepted and unlike in Scotland

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where you only get financial help if you are a Scottish student going to

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a Scottish university, as things stand this current administration

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believes that would be too much of a limit on the omission of Welsh

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students but there will be a lot of talk about how to incentivise

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graduates to come from England back into Wales. Easier said than done.

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But a significant day about a very significant policy.

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at the Marl Recreation Ground after being seen on fire

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He suffered severe burns and died after being taken

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Police are not looking for anyone else in relation to his death.

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A man is missing after he reportedly got into difficulty in the water,

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while canoeing in Aberglaslyn, near Beddgelert.

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A major search of the area involving emergency services

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Denbighshire Council says the Welsh Government

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will offer financial help following the collapse of bus

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Services in Denbighshire, Flintshire and Wrexham were hit hard

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when the Ruabon-based firm went into administration in July.

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The money will cover some of the costs of maintaining

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They're our youngest and some of our most

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vulnerable patients but how well are they

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According to the organisation representing children's doctors

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the Welsh NHS needs to tackle a number of shortfalls in the care

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provided for sick and premature new-born babies.

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To explain some of the findings from the Royal College

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of Paediatrics and Child Health - our correspondent Owain Clarke.

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How do you make sure that the youngest patients of all

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Each year specialists take a look at how

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neonatal services across Wales, England and Scotland are performing.

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8% of babies here don't get screened for a potentially

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harmful eye condition which is a complication

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of being born prematurely - that's four times higher

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When babies leave Welsh neonatal units just 43% are breast-fed -

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because mothers' milk is full of antibodies which can

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help premature babies fight off infections.

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And strikingly the Welsh NHS is lagging well behind in performing

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comprehensive check-ups when the children

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The records show only 31% of those tests took place in Wales -

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compared to an average of 60% across the three countries.

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We haven't got enough people who can do these Bayley's assessments

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and we don't have enough clinics to run this and so it needs more

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investment in both personnel and training and also

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proper clinic space, so that these assessments can happen

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and that's where we have lagged behind the rest of the country.

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Now there have been concerns for a long time

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For example, the Welsh NHS is performing better than average

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in making sure mothers who go into early labour are given steroids

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- which reduce the risk of the baby having breathing problems.

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Now, the Welsh Government insists things are improving

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and the experts agree many neonatal units are performing well.

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But clearly there's some way to go before care for the youngest

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and sickest babies here can be considered to

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Five people have been sentenced to a total of 47 years in prison -

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after the biggest drugs investigation ever carried out

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The defendants from South Wales and Liverpool were part

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of a gang which attempted to distribute cocaine

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with an estimated street value of ?19 million.

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Our reporter Ben Price is at Swansea Crown Court.

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Tell us more about those who were jailed today?

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Earlier today the judge at Swansea Crown Court jailed five people for

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their involvement in a major drugs ring which took place between

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November 2014 in November 2000 and 15. Those involved were from the

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South Wales area, Liverpool and Manchester. Yesterday for members of

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the gang were jailed and a further five today. Two were from South

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Wales. One is 29 years old from Swansea, described as an habitual

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cocaine user. He has been handed an 11 year sentence of which he will

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serve half. The other is a 36-year-old single mother from

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Swansea. Then we have a 29-year-old, a 38-year-old, and a 31-year-old,

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all from Liverpool. They were jailed for a total of 23 years and they

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will serve half of the individual sentences.

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We understand this looks like a well-organised operation.

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Yes. This is a large gang which it was said attempted to sell 15 kilos

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of cocaine on the streets of the Southwest valleys and Pembrokeshire.

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The estimated street value of this cocaine, ?19 million. The cooking

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was transported by couriers from Liverpool and Manchester to this

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property in the Swansea valleys. Here it was cats, mixed, and then

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sold onto the streets the area. As well as that in court today the

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judge said that those involved in this drugs gang brought messily and

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debt to the people of the area. He said he hoped the sentences he was

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handing out would be a message to others that this kind of behaviour

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is not tolerated here. The remaining nine defendants of the gang will be

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jailed by the end of the week. Much more to come

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before seven o'clock. Our man Nick Palit

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reports from Aberdare - where they've become

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so disillusioned with mainstream politics that they've

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set up their own party. And typical autumn

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weather this week. The Welsh Labour Party is to get

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more say over its own affairs The plans were approved by Labour's

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conference in Liverpool - despite an attempt by

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Jeremy Corbyn's Our parliamentary correspondent,

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David Cornock, is in Liverpool. David, these changes are through but

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not without a fight. That is right. These changes are

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important because they will make it harder for Jeremy Corbyn to get his

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way in terms of running and changing the Labour Party. That is one reason

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why his supporters tried so hard to block or delay them. Those delaying

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tactics earlier today did spark some angry scenes in the conference hall.

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This is our one opportunity to make policy for grassroots Labour members

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to make policy for the year ahead. We need to start making changes. We

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have got Jeremy Corbyn as leader whether we like it or not... BOOING.

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A sign there that the leadership election may be over but tension is

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never far from the surface here at the Labour conference. But Carwyn

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Jones got his way and he tonight described the vote as an important

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step forward for Welsh Labour. He is expected to announce very shortly

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the name of the person, the Welsh Government minister, who will

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represent him on the national executive committee.

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We heard from a young delegates there.

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It is 35 years since Paul Flannan spoke at conference. He told

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delegates he has two rules thanks to Jeremy Corbyn's jobs for geriatric

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scheme. He made this appeal for party unity.

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Take all the bile and their hatred, put it in our box, bury it

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underground, put six feet of concrete on top, put a sign saying

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never shout the last 12 months be unearthed from its dishonours

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delayed. We are going forward, comrades, to Government. And he

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appeals to those MPs who resign from Jeremy Corbyn's Cabinet over his

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leadership to return to the fold and the signs are that some of them

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will. We should get an announcement next week.

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Assembly Member Nathan Gill, has confirmed he is no longer

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Mr Gill and Neil Hamilton have both staked their claim over the role.

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But visiting the Senedd yesterday, the new UK leader of the party,

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Diane James, said Mr Hamilton now holds the post.

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Powys Council has scrapped plans to close two high schools

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in the county and establish one secondary school in its place.

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There were plans to close Gwernyfed and Brecon High Schools.

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But a report by the education watchdog suggested

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the change would not improve standards.

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The potential damage alcohol can cause to our own health

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But what about the effect drinking has on others?

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According to a report from Public Health Wales

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and Liverpool John Moores University more than half of all adults

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in Wales have suffered because of someone else's

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This man's father was an alcoholic. His childhood was shaped by his

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father's heavy drinking. He now works as a counsellor. It could be

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very tense in my house. Sometimes I would try and keep the peace and

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stuff like that and try and make sure nobody would argue. They could

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be quite fiery and environment to live in. Lots of rows. Things were

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bad. With the advent of 24-hour drinking and cut-price drink in

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shops and supermarkets getting hold of alcohol has never been easier.

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But today's report shows it is becoming a problem for more and more

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of us and in different ways. We have a higher level of alcohol

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consumption, especially binge drinking, than any other compatible

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countries. There are some big issues here which means he see a lot of

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people go to hospital every year and we see about 1500 deaths every year

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as a result of alcohol consumption. According to the report 60% of

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adults in Wales have suffered in the last year because of somebody else's

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drinking. The report found that 18% said they had felt physically

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threatened by someone who had been drinking and 11% said the property

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had been damaged by a drinker. 5% said they had suffered physical

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violence at the hands of someone who was drunk.

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You have seen some are being hit with a bottle? Yes. It was not a

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nice experience. It was scary. You do not want to be hurt. It was

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because they were drunk? Yes. On a night out all the time you get

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people fighting. It happens every night you go out. Charities trying

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to change attitudes to alcohol say it is time to take a long hard look

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at our drinking culture. This report raises interesting questions about

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what sort of drinking society we want,

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what sort of night everyone. There are quite extreme examples of

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violence but what most of us experience is that low-level

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unpleasant behaviour which means that a lot of people say they do not

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want to go out in the town centre at night because they consider to be a

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place for heavy drinking. Many of us jointing is used as a way to

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celebrate, commiserate, or simply unwind at the end of a hard day. But

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this report shows the impact of drinking on others can be far

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reaching. Football, and its emerged that

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Swansea City chairman Huw Jenkins met former USA coach

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Bob Bradley of a management change

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at the Liberty Stadium continues. Bradley is currently working

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in the French second division. Current manager Francesco

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Guidolin's position has come under increasing pressure

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following the Swans' poor start Tonight Cardiff City

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are looking for a second win in a row against fellow

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Championship strugglers Derby. In League Two Newport County

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are at Grimsby and in the National Two businessmen from Aberdare have

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become so disillusioned with mainstream politics that

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they've set up their own party to contest next year's

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local council elections. Andrew Chainey and Graham Marsh have

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founded the Cynon Valley Party - and it's been formally approved

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by the Electoral Commission. They say by campaigning on issues

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that effect ordinary people they hope to make

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a real difference. Then part of this Green and

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pleasant, ancient forests. In other parts it is grey and bleak. The once

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industrious community is less industrious. Times like this have a

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proud history but it is the future that worries many.

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Covering 70 square miles with a population of nearly 70,000 people

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this valleys community is one of the most densely populated areas of

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Wales. Cynon Valley also ranks highly in the deprivation index with

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unemployment higher than the Welsh average but with lower than average

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pay for those who are in work. Now a new party has been set up to

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represent those who feel that they have been sidelined by mainstream

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politics. My mother was born in the top house. I was born in the next

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house. Businessmen Andrew Chainey and Julian Marsh felt political

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parties were not representing them well enough at a local level and

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decided to have a go themselves. The Cynon Valley Party was born. The

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issues are schooling, bins on the street, the latter, but that is also

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how local politicians also do not really represent the people. They

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often put the party first. We hope this will go national. We want to

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set up residents of other areas can copy of what we are doing. It is

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time for change in the political system. The party is looking for 23

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candidates across Cynon Valley for next year's local council elections.

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Mixed reaction today. Probably at some time in the future I can see it

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being a force for good. I do not tend to thought because I find that

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they do not get what we want anybody. It would not make much

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difference to me. Somebody who is local I suppose would be more

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interested in what is going on here. They used to say in valleys politics

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you could pen a Labour rosette on a donkey and people would follow like

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sheep but Andrew Chainey says he is a new breed of politician and if you

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live in Cynon Valley he is working for you.

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The Derek Brockway party can only offer you sunshine and showers -

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more showers than sunshine, Derek.

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Grey, damp and misty in Llandrindod earlier this afternoon but it did

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eventually dry and brighten up with some sunshine in Cenarth.

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Dry overnight as well with some patchy cloud.

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Lowest temperatures 10 to 14 Celsius.

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Here's the picture for 8 in the morning.

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Most of the country dry at this stage.

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Bright in places for a while but make the most of the sunshine.

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During the day cloud will increase and lower with some drizzly rain

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Most of the rain on the hills in the south and west.

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Top temperatures 17 to 20 Celsius and breezy.

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a dry start but turning dull and damp in the afternoon.

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The best of the weather tomorrow in the Marches.

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Most of the day dry with a little sunshine.

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some patchy light rain, drizzle and mist.

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And then after midnight a cold front will bring some heavier rain.

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On Thursday morning the rain will move south-east and clear,

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followed by dry and brighter weather.

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One or two showers and a westerly breeze.

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Friday a cooler day with a mixture of sunshine and scattered showers.

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Temperatures a little lower than Thursday.

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Saturday unsettled with low pressure over us.

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But that will move away with a ridge of high pressure

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Should improve later in the afternoon with fewer

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Dry and more settled with lighter winds.

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Our picture tonight is from Thomas Davies

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And make the most of the dry weather tomorrow.

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The headlines. I grant covering Welsh students tuition fees should

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be replaced with a grant for living costs instead. The report says all

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students would receive ?1000 per year before a means tested grant. It

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does have a final work with our education correspondent.

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Reminders of how significant this is. It more or less signals the end

:26:18.:26:22.

of the Welsh Government's subsidy towards students tuition fees. It

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has been a flagship policy. A new focus on help with living costs

:26:30.:26:33.

through a maintenance plan. It is not a straight swap in terms of

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funding. At the new system is implemented if you are from a more

:26:38.:26:41.

comfortable background you are likely to get less financial support

:26:42.:26:44.

but if you are looking on to stay in university and do at Masters degree

:26:45.:26:48.

or part-time study you are likely to get more support. There is a feeling

:26:49.:26:52.

this type of study has been neglected in terms of student

:26:53.:26:55.

support over what is important in terms of providing the skills the

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economy needs and widening participation, getting worried

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people from disadvantaged backgrounds into the system. There

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was a clear feeling from Professor diamonds today that the package in

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its entirety had to be in fermented for it to work but that is a long

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way to work. Lots of politics, number crunching to do before

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anything changes. Nothing will change for 2018. It could take a lot

:27:19.:27:22.

longer ' we're feeling tonight that it is inevitable now, the system

:27:23.:27:29.

will change. Much more on this story on our BBC

:27:30.:27:31.

News website. I'll have an update for you here

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at eight o'clock and again From all of us on the

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programme, good evening.

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