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This is BBC World News Today, with me, Zeinab Badawi. Britain's | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
foreign secretary William Hague is the latest senior western | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
politician to visit Burma. Is the international community moving too | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
soon and too fast to embrace its military-backed government? | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
message is, well, if you want those sanctions, those restrictive | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
measures, as we call them, lifted, then it's very important to show | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
that you are completing this process of reform. We believe now | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
that you are sincere about it. President Obama announces nearly | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
half a trillion dollars' worth of cuts to the US defence budget - and | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
a plan to refocus America's military effort. | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
We'll be strengthening our presence in the Asia Pacific, and budget | :00:50. | :00:58. | |
reductions will not come at the expense of this critical region. | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
Also coming up, the woman photographer who captured the | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
Golden Age of Hollywood. We look back at the life and career of the | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
renowned American photojournalist, Eve Arnold, who has died there the | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
age of 99. And the player on the London riots | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
last year opens in the suburb but where the unrest began. We talk to | :01:19. | :01:29. | |
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the play's writer. Welcome. William Hague is in Burma. | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
He is the first British Foreign Secretary to visit the country | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
since 1955. It is being seen as the latest sign that the country is | :01:43. | :01:48. | |
open to reform. After meetings with the Burmese government, he met the | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi. She told the BBC that reforms | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
in Burma are not unstoppable and will only succeed if the powerful | :01:55. | :02:01. | |
military accepts the changes. Her party, the National League for | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
Democracy, had just received official recognition as a political | :02:04. | :02:12. | |
party in advance of the forthcoming by-elections. | :02:12. | :02:16. | |
These are brighter Burmese Days. A country so long isolated, now | :02:16. | :02:24. | |
opening to the world. Today, the first visit in half a century by a | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
British Foreign Secretary. He pressed the reforming President to | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
free more political prisoners. The president did not speak publicly, | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
but privately promised more reform. The president said to me in those | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
words that the progress of democracy is irreversible. The | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
words are there, but we also need to see action to release other | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
political prisoners and see free and fair elections. Then the world | :02:50. | :02:58. | |
will believe it. It is a long way from all of this. Brutal crackdowns, | :02:58. | :03:07. | |
shootings and disappearances. Journalists banned. It really is | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
extraordinary to be able to come back here and work openly as a | :03:11. | :03:17. | |
journalist in Burma. The most profound change that I sense is | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
that the essential dynamic which drove Burmese life for so long, | :03:22. | :03:28. | |
fear, is fading away. Change here is hugely driven by regional | :03:28. | :03:34. | |
realities. The Burmese have long depended on China for investment. | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
But the fear of being dominated by that powerful neighbour has | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
prompted opening to the West. With a young population, Berman needs | :03:41. | :03:49. | |
the prosperity only political stability can bring. The opposition | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
leader Aung San Ms Suu Kyi, when we first met nearly 20 years ago, now | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
talks warmly of the country's president, or words unthinkable in | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
the old days. The most important thing about the president is that | :04:01. | :04:09. | |
he is an honest man. He does not make big promises that he would be | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
incapable of keeping. It has been 17 years since I sat in his room, | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
listening to you speak of hope. There have been many false dawns | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
since then. Can we really believe that what is happening in Burma now | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
will end in real democracy? I have always said that hope should be | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
joined to endeavour. We can only hope if we work very hard to | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
realise your hopes, and we have been working hard over the last 23 | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
years. This is why we have the right to hope. Will it happen in | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
your lifetime that we will see a full democratic election? You s, I | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
think there will be a full democratic election in my lifetime, | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
but I do not know how long I am going to live. But if I live out a | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
normal lifespan, yes. Tonight, the opposition leader met the Foreign | :04:57. | :05:04. | |
Secretary. On all sides now, there seems to be the sober political | :05:04. | :05:14. | |
calculation that the days of isolation much be banished forever. | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
Joining us now is David Williams from Indiana University in the US. | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
Do you think Western leaders like William Hague are putting too much | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
faith in the words of the Burmese President? I hope they are not | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
putting any faith in his words, I hope they are putting faith in | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
actions. There have been baby steps, but that is more than we have had | :05:35. | :05:41. | |
for decades. It is good that they are engaged. What kind of pressure | :05:41. | :05:47. | |
should they be applying? Are they doing it? They are playing a | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
pragmatic game. The president wants warmer relations with the West to | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
counterbalance China, and he wants no longer to be regarded as a | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
pariah nation. The only way to do that is to be able to warm up to | :06:00. | :06:09. | |
people like the UK and the US. This visit is a kind of pressure. | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
Looking at the role of Aung San Suu Kyi, it is seen as a barometer of | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
how far the reforms in Burma are going. But she is not the only | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
indicator. People ought to look elsewhere in the country as well, | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
for instance the ethnic tensions in parts of Burma? The ethnic tensions | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
are critical. Aung San Suu Kyi is concerned about them, but she is | :06:31. | :06:39. | |
not out there. Sometimes it is not the forefront of her concern. We | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
will never see real democracy unless we address that. How far do | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
you think these reforms that are being suggested by the military- | :06:48. | :06:54. | |
backed government are directed towards and elite, particularly in | :06:54. | :07:00. | |
Rangoon? I think they are. The president is going to talk to the | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
ethnic groups, and maybe we will see progress on that. But right now, | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
they are moving around little bits of power inside Rangoon. There is | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
some liberalisation, but we are far from a multi-party democracy. | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
more do you want to see being done? William Hague has talked about the | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
release of political prisoners. That is important. Sometimes it can | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
come to dominate the other issues. Round-table negotiations with all | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
the ethnic groups in the same room is critical. William Hague's | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
pressure can play a role in causing that to happen. Economic changes | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
are critical. We have seen almost none of those. As a result, | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
economic power remains with the military. Finally, we have to see | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
free, fair and monitored elections. You talked about the international | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
career she's need to maintain pressure on the military-backed | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
government. The international community does not act or speak | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
with one voice. No, and that is unfortunate. I think they are | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
speaking more with one voice now than in the past, because everybody | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
seems to be saying yes, there is progress and that is good, but | :08:11. | :08:18. | |
there is not nearly enough and we should push harder. Japan, the US | :08:18. | :08:28. | |
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and UK are all pushing hard. Now a look at the other news. A | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
series of bombings in Iraq targeting Shia Muslims has killed | :08:33. | :08:42. | |
at least 71 people, including 44 in one city. It came hours after bombs | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
in the capital, Baghdad, killed at least 27. Sectarian violence has | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
increased recently after an arrest warrant was issued against the Sony | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
vice-president. In Egypt, the trial of the former | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
president Hosni Mubarak has heard from the prosecution that it wants | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
a case against him with an uncompromising call for him to be | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
sentenced to death by hanging. Mr Mubarak is accused of ordering the | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
killing of demonstrators during last year's protests which forced | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
him from power. Chinese airlines are refusing to | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
pay a carbon emissions charged to fly in Europe. The EU introduced | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
the fee on January 1st as part of its emissions trading scheme, | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
meaning that airlines now need to by pollution credits, but the | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
Chinese aviation Transport Association says its members will | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
not be forced into paying the fee. The British government is expected | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
to publish the findings of a review on Friday into the risks posed to | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
women by breast implants made up by a French manufacturer. The French | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
government has already recommended a 30,000 French women should have | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
the implants removed. The authorities there are also | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
investigating claims that the French company has exported in | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
plans for men. It is not known whether they were manufactured | :09:57. | :10:03. | |
using the same sub-standard silicon. A new year, and a new defence | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
strategy for the US. President Obama has announced defence cuts of | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
$450 billion, saying that US forces would be leaner, but would maintain | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
their military superiority. The overall defence budget will still | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
be bigger than the next 10 countries combined. Mr Obama said | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
the US will strengthen its presence in the Asia-Pacific region and | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
continue to invest in what he called America's critical | :10:28. | :10:38. | |
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partnerships, including NATO. The Pentagon, the seat of American | :10:38. | :10:43. | |
military power, learning to adapt to this country's changing economic | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
fortunes and a changing world. America is turning the page and a | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
decade of war that started with the attacks of September 11th. The last | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
US soldier finally left Iraq in December. In the coming years, they | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
will withdraw from Afghanistan as well. But President Obama, in a | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
rare appearance at the Pentagon, insisted that this was no retreat. | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
Yes, the tide of war is receding, but the question that this strategy | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
answers is, what kind of military will we need long after the wars of | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
the last decade are over? Today, we are fortunate to be moving forward | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
from a position of strength. As I made clear in Australia, we will be | :11:28. | :11:35. | |
strengthening our presence in the Asia-Pacific. Budget reductions | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
will not come at the expense of that region. For America, the | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
future lies in the Pacific. American soldiers will soon be | :11:41. | :11:47. | |
based in Australia. There will be fewer of them in Europe. The US | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
wants to counter the rise of China, reassure its allies in the region | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
and maintain access to trade routes by land and sea. The overall number | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
of US ground troops will be cut. Washington may long longer be able | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
to fight two ground was at the same time, but it insists that it | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
remains ready for all challenges. For some, the cuts do not go deep | :12:10. | :12:16. | |
enough. Others worried that they undermine American power. I think | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
America's potential enemies will see the stated strategy change as a | :12:20. | :12:26. | |
sign of weakness. But whether that is seen as a true weakness over the | :12:26. | :12:33. | |
long term will be what capabilities the American military continues to | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
have. President Obama will also face criticism from Republicans in | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
this election year. They will accuse him of being weak on defence. | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
That is perhaps why he came here in person, to show that he and his | :12:46. | :12:54. | |
generals are on the same page. In the UK, a panel of legal and | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
medical experts has called for assisted suicide to be legalised | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
for people who are terminally ill and likely to die within a year. | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
Campaigners for assisted suicide commissioned the report. The bid | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
it'll Medical Association refused to take part -- the British Medical | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
Association refused to take part. Assisted suicide is when one person | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
helps another take their own life, as opposed to euthanasia, when the | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
other person, most often a doctor, end the life. A few countries allow | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
the practice. In Europe, it is legal in the Netherlands, Belgium | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
and Switzerland, where the motive of the person helping has to be | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
proved. Assisted suicide is also allowed in Luxembourg. There, they | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
failed to get Royal Assent to legalise it, so they amended the | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
constitution to stop the monarch from blocking it, and it was | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
legalised in 2009. In America, three states, Oregon, Washington | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
and Montana, have legalised assisted suicide, but sub-standard | :13:52. | :13:58. | |
conditions have to be met before it is allowed. Joining us is Dr Evan | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
Harris, the former Liberal Democrat MP, who is a member of Healthcare | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
Professionals for Assisted Dying. You know the criticism about these | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
proposals. Vulnerable people may feel pressurised into ending their | :14:13. | :14:19. | |
lives. Firstly, it is assisted dying, not assisted suicide. In all | :14:19. | :14:27. | |
the countries you mentioned, there are strict safeguards. One of the | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
things from this report is that this should be legalised, subject | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
to strict safeguards. The person has to be attested to be terminally | :14:35. | :14:41. | |
ill, not only mentally ill or disabled. They have to have the | :14:41. | :14:47. | |
capacity to make the decision, and it has to be repeated request. | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
Thirdly, there must be checks that they are not under duress. | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
Currently, there are no such safeguards when people who are very | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
ill refuse, as they are entitled to do, life-saving treatment. Even if | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
they are not terminally ill, they can refuse life-saving treatment | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
and therefore kill themselves possibly without any of those safe | :15:07. | :15:13. | |
guards. In countries which have legalised assisted dying with | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
safeguards, there are fewer pieces of the vulnerable and those who are | :15:17. | :15:23. | |
under duress. But you never know for sure. Research has been done, | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
asking doctors how often they have chosen to end the lives of patients, | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
which is something called non- voluntary euthanasia. No one is | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
arguing that that should be legal. In countries like Holland, where | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
assisted dying is legal, subject to safeguards, there is much more | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
discussion between patients, families and doctors of what | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
patients would have wanted and the reports of non- voluntary | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
euthanasia, where doctors are making decisions on patients with a | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
capacity, people who are unconscious, is lower than the | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
reported incidence in this country, where doctors are not allowed to | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
have the conversation about what the patient would have been wanted. | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
But you are in a minority, because most of the medical establishment | :16:07. | :16:17. | |
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in the UK are opposed to assisted At least 80% is in favour of | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
assisted dying with safeguards. We know that certain religious people | :16:23. | :16:29. | |
supported. We know that it states in America supported. It is likely | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
that the majority of doctors would agree with the proposition that | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
people who have the capacity, suffering intolerably and who'll | :16:37. | :16:44. | |
are terminally ill, should be allowed to have assistance. -- who | :16:44. | :16:53. | |
are terminally ill. There should be an opt-out for conscientious | :16:53. | :16:58. | |
objection. I do not accept that the argument would not have majority | :16:58. | :17:04. | |
medical support. The British Medical Association did oppose this. | :17:04. | :17:10. | |
They did in other countries until it was legalised as well. There are | :17:10. | :17:20. | |
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so many things that around known. - - are on known. Patients... How do | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
you know whether a person as less than a year to live? Whenever you | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
give a prognosis you can only give what I Dr believes is their best | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
judgment. At the moment it is legal for someone to go took Switzerland | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
where there are none of these checks, where you do not have to be | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
terminally ill, and where often people who do not want to die | :17:50. | :17:57. | |
immediately put are terrified of dying in paint, are earlier. -- go | :17:57. | :18:07. | |
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One word for the other side of the argument. Alex Schadenberg from the | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
youth and a share Prevention Commission. -- Euthanasia | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
Prevention Commission. Why do you believe these proposals are | :18:19. | :18:25. | |
misguided? First of all, to allow Darren -- doctors to be directly | :18:25. | :18:31. | |
involved in assisting death means that you're giving doctors to cause | :18:31. | :18:41. | |
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the death of a patient. It really does not matter... Even if they say | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
the rules are watertight, these rules can be changed by anybody. | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
You just have to open the equation and say it is OK to kill you are | :18:51. | :18:59. | |
patient. That is completely unacceptable. Especially when you | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
consider concerns about people with disabilities etc. We cannot go down | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
that road. Thank you very much indeed. For | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
technical reasons we could not come to you earlier. At least you had | :19:12. | :19:20. | |
the last word. Let's return to our story earlier on about the new | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
Defence Secretary unveiled by Barack Obama in Washington. There | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
are Foran that and $50 billion worth of cuts to the US military | :19:29. | :19:39. | |
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budget. -- $450 billion. President Obama wants to focus more on the | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
Asia-Pacific region. We are joined by Philip Hammond, the British | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
Defence Secretary. Do you believe the United States is turning its | :19:47. | :19:53. | |
back on Europe by strengthening its role in the Asia-Pacific? Does that | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
worry you? I do not think it should worry us. It was always inevitable | :19:58. | :20:04. | |
that the US would refocus its strategic effort on the Asia- | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
Pacific region, responding to the phenomenal growth of China as an | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
economic and military power. The message I am getting here in | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
Washington is that people here value the North Atlantic | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
relationship. They want to see the Europeans shouldering a greater | :20:20. | :20:25. | |
share of the burden. They understand working together with us | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
in areas of greater stability is the to the benefit of both the US | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
and Europe, and that collaboration will continue. If they cut their | :20:35. | :20:42. | |
spending, they will expect a major European military power to cough up | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
more? I have given a speech here this morning with a plate -- blunt | :20:47. | :20:54. | |
message. The reality is that nobody can coughed up any more. We in the | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
UK he inherited a huge budget deficit. We have set to work | :20:59. | :21:05. | |
tackling it. The US is now engaged with a similar process and is | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
determined to put its defence spending on an affordable and | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
sustainable footing, as we are doing in the UK. What we have found | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
in the UK is that responding to what is essentially a budgetary | :21:17. | :21:24. | |
problem, when we have looked at how we respond to that, we look at a | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
our strategy, we have come up with a solution which will give us more | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
flexible, more adaptable, more mobile and more deplorable forces | :21:35. | :21:43. | |
than we had before. -- employable. Let's take the challenge of budget | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
necessity and turn it into a strategic opportunity, to rethink | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
how we do defence in Europe and North America, so that we do get | :21:51. | :21:57. | |
for every precious pound or dollar of taxpayers' money, the very best | :21:57. | :22:07. | |
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Thank you very much. The renowned American photo-journalist, Eve | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
Arnold, has died at the age of 99. She captured images of many | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
celebrities, but her iconic photos of the Hollywood star, Marilyn | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
Monroe, made her famous around the world. Eve Arnold was born in | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
Philadelphia, and worked briefly in China. She lived in London for more | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
than 40 years, where she died just few months before her 100th | :22:26. | :22:36. | |
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birthday. David Sillito looks back at her life. | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
Marilyn Monroe had good reason to look thoughtful and vulnerable | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
during these photographs. She had twice taken an overdose and was | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
drinking heavily. There was only one photographer she trusted, Eve | :22:51. | :22:57. | |
Arnold. We all used each other. She used me to get -- to help her to | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
get where she was going, me and hundreds of others. I was unique | :23:02. | :23:07. | |
only in the fact that she trusted me. Eve Arnold was the first woman | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
to work with the famous Magnum photographic agency. Born in | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
Philadelphia, she photographed friends and family and made her | :23:17. | :23:22. | |
name when Britain's Picture Post published have pictures. She hated | :23:22. | :23:27. | |
Studios. Her skill was capturing the fleeting intimate moment behind | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
the glossy the sad. It was this which attracted the attention of | :23:33. | :23:36. | |
Marilyn Monroe. It was the opposite of the traditional Hollywood | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
glamour or photograph. producers of the film's were | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
worried because they kept saying, you're killing the illusion. You | :23:47. | :23:49. | |
were building -- we're building dreams and you are giving us | :23:49. | :23:55. | |
nightmares. In the end when they so how much space they could command, | :23:55. | :24:02. | |
all of that shift it. -- saw. was open hostility to her when she | :24:02. | :24:11. | |
photographed black Muslim leader Malcolm X. And in her long career | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
she won praise for pictures of everyone from world leaders to the | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
dispossessed. Her most difficult subject was Margaret Thatcher, who | :24:19. | :24:25. | |
she said it tried to control her every move. Good pictures, she felt, | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
relied on have good relationships. That is what she had with Marilyn | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
Monroe. She might have appeared innocent and unguarded. But Marilyn | :24:34. | :24:40. | |
knew what she was projecting. And even Harold was the one she trusted | :24:40. | :24:49. | |
to protect it. -- projected. Eve Arnold, who has died aged 99. A | :24:49. | :24:56. | |
play about the August riots has opened in Tottenham. 'The Riots' is | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
based on interviews with politicians, police, victims and | :25:00. | :25:06. | |
the rioters themselves. In a moment, we talked to Gillian Slovo. First, | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
I click of the play and the monologue from the actor, Steve | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
Toussaint. Those kids were, to all intents and purposes, they were | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
suicide bombers. In our community they have been imploding as opposed | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
to exploding. On that Saturday the exploded. Telling these kids, stop | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
what you're doing, we will give you longer sentences, is like saying to | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
somebody strap with a bomb, stop or I will shoot. It does not mean | :25:36. | :25:43. | |
anything. It reinforces their cynicism, they believe. | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
Steve Toussaint. Gillian Slovo, Newspoll do plenty of people | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
preparing for this play? I got about 54 hours of interviews which | :25:51. | :25:57. | |
I had to calm down into a two Our Plaice. Was the one essential | :25:57. | :26:04. | |
message which came to you? -- was the one central message which came | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
to you? There were a lot of messages. I have compiled and | :26:09. | :26:15. | |
narrative of the riots. It is about people wondering what their causes | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
war. There were quite opposing understandings of that. What was | :26:19. | :26:25. | |
clear to me is that it started out as legitimate anger by a community | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
about the death of another black man in police hands, and the fact | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
there was misinformation. The failure of the police do properly | :26:34. | :26:41. | |
policed the demonstration that took place. And then as spreading into | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
other parts of the England, which was partly about people seeing that | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
the police were not going to do anything else, and going out to get | :26:51. | :26:57. | |
things free. The authorities talked about playing criminal activity. | :26:57. | :27:04. | |
Heavy sentences were meted out to those found guilty. There was | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
undoubtedly a lot of looting and criminality. What the Government | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
has failed to do is to understand that it you have a society where | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
there is a significant minority of people who have nothing to lose, | :27:15. | :27:20. | |
then you will get this kind of behaviour. It should concern us all. | :27:20. | :27:27. | |
How did it go down when you showed it in Tottenham? It went down well. | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
The question and answer session was very serious, not angry, but a very | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
serious discussion about the kinds of things that caused these riots. | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
And how to stop them in the future. Gillian Slovo, thank you. That is | :27:41. | :27:51. | |
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all from this edition of World News Hello there. We have had some very | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
windy conditions in the last few days. It is set to change. The | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
winds will ease. It is set to be a sunny start tomorrow. And actually | :28:10. | :28:20. | |
won as well. We could see a touch of frost. We could well see frost | :28:20. | :28:25. | |
in the north. A crisp and sunny start through central and eastern | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
areas. The cloud will gather from the West. For much of north-west | :28:30. | :28:38. | |
England, patchy rain later in the afternoon. Lighter wind and | :28:38. | :28:45. | |
sunshine give rise to 728 degrees in the south-east of England. | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
Higher in the south-west. A little more cloud through Wales and south- | :28:50. | :28:58. | |
west England. That could produce light rain. Friday across Northern | :28:58. | :29:03. | |
Ireland, the winds much lighter, scattered showers. A little more | :29:03. | :29:08. |