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This week, Antiques Roadshow is at Knebworth House in Hertfordshire.

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Its romantic exterior is, in fact, a disguise -

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beneath is a red-brick house dating back to Tudor times.

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Knebworth was bought by the Lytton family in 1490. Sir Robert Lytton was a favourite of Henry VII

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and fought alongside him at the Battle of Bosworth. The family have lived here ever since.

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Each generation has adapted the house.

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In 1810, Elizabeth Bulwer-Lytton demolished three sides of the quadrangle,

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added towers and battlements, covered the red brick with stucco,

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and altered the windows to a Gothic style.

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Her son went further - adding domes, turrets and gargoyles to ward off evil spirits.

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Elizabeth was a formidable lady. When she arrived at Knebworth,

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she had a row with the rector, who wanted to claim a tithe on the produce that came from the estate.

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The dispute became so bitter that Mrs Bulwer-Lytton refused to go to church and held services at home.

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She even set up a screen of trees around the church so that it couldn't be seen from the house.

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Finally, she built her own mausoleum in the park, so that she would not have to be buried in the churchyard.

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When the 2nd Earl of Lytton made his alterations to Knebworth in 1908,

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he called on his useful brother-in-law, Edwin Lutyens,

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who embellished the house and remodelled the gardens. The lime avenues are world famous

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and the herb garden is the work of the famous designer Gertrude Jekyll.

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Charles Dickens and Winston Churchill visited here,

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but a little too early to enjoy Knebworth's open-air rock concerts.

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The first festival in 1974 was known as The Bucolic Frolic

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and featured the Allman Brothers band.

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Status Quo did their gig in 1986.

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# Rocking all over the world! #

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All we're hoping is that the weather won't give us "the blues".

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They say it's going to start nicely, then become grey, dull and wet.

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But it's nice at the moment and we offer a very warm welcome indeed

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to the people of Hertfordshire as they join our experts.

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It was my mother's aunt's, and as a small child,

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we used to go and see her on Sundays, and it stood by the fireplace.

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-Really?

-One Sunday we went there, and she put it out in the garden

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-and she said, "If you want it, you can take it home." But Mother wasn't very pleased.

-Really?

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-But it did come home with us.

-And you've had it ever since?

-Yeah.

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-And when we got married, I didn't want it.

-You didn't like it?

-No.

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-He had to talk me into keeping it.

-How funny.

-And we've had it for the last 35 years.

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-Do you still hate it?

-No, I love it.

-Ah, a conversion.

-A conversion.

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Well, as I'm sure you know, it's an umbrella stand.

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It's probably Minton.

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-Minton was the largest manufacturer of this class of ware, which is called majolica...

-Yes.

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..in Stoke-on-Trent. They made a lot of these wares - it was hugely popular at the time.

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It dates from about 1870-75, somewhere around there,

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so he's pretty old. It's now hugely popular, particularly in America -

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the Americans have gone absolutely berserk for it.

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-You've got a lot of damage...

-Yes.

-You've got a riveted bottom,

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you've got a wing off there...

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one of his toes has gone...

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we've got this off here, bit gone off there...

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Um, so... Oh, and that's been off as well, I see.

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That makes a difference. But of all wares, if you have damage,

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this is the ware to have, because it makes least difference.

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-Oh, right.

-If you did sell it,

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what would it make?

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-It would make £4,000 to £6,000.

-Oh, really?

-Really?

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-Do you like it any more?

-I still wouldn't part with it.

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-Thank you for bringing it in. It's a joy.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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Yes, she's my doll. She was originally my aunt's doll,

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and I was the only niece and I was given her when I was about 10.

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-So you played with her?

-A little bit, but not a lot

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-because I was told to look after her.

-Well, you looked after her well.

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-She's got such a pretty face.

-Yes.

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Now, she is a mould 117a.

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Mould 117a means that's she's called Mein Liebling or My Darling,

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and the world record, which still stands,

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for a bisque doll, or for any doll, for that matter, at auction,

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was by the firm of Kammer and Reinhardt. It wasn't the 117,

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it was a 108.

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I don't want to pick your spirits up too high, because it made...

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-£188,000, but yours is not worth...

-I'd rather not...!

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So, um, she is by the same make.

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She's got lovely sleeping eyes,

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and...shall we turn her head? She has a lovely, mohair wig...

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-And...there, you see.

-Oh, yes.

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"KR" - is Kammer and Reinhardt, then "117a", which is what she is - she's absolutely right.

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So she's got ball-jointed limbs,

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where they...at the knees and at the shoulders.

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She's got her original, lovely little velvet coat and dress

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-and this little hat. She's absolutely enchanting. I think she's one of my favourite dolls.

-Yes.

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Original shoes, and I see you've got some original clothes here,

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so you've a wonderful little doll. Have you any idea of her value?

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None at all, except you read books and you know that she might be worth £300, £400 - I don't know.

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Add a nought.

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-Oh! No wonder I haven't given her to my grandchildren to play with!

-Thank goodness you didn't!

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A friend of mine died, and her husband gave her trinkets to me

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to sell for a charity we were all interested in, at a car-boot sale.

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I sorted through them and I looked at that one, and I thought,

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-"That's too good for a car boot. I'll find out what it's worth."

-You've got gimlet eyes, haven't you?

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If the sky wasn't covered in clouds right now, this would be blazing.

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-I think you suspect that this is made of diamonds.

-Yes.

-You're right.

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I'm looking at the quality of them - they're rather marked,

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but, nonetheless, they ARE diamonds and probably really rather valuable.

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-It's part of a much bigger jewel - it's from an Edwardian necklace.

-Ah.

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At a car-boot sale, what would you have sold it for?

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-Well, 50p, £1.

-£1, OK.

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-Well, what about £2,500?

-That's more like it!

-Much more like it!

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-Thanks you.

-Thank YOU.

-Lovely story. I'm gonna follow you around.

-Oh, do!

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I'll point there.

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-What does that say?

-1580.

-1580.

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-Really?

-No.

-Oh.

-It's an imitation. Made in the 19th century,

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copying the 1580 style. And it's called a schnelle...

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a drinking tankard.

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And it's worth about...£30.

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Really?! I'm not surprised!

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-A genuine one would be £1,000 plus.

-Oh, right.

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-Oh, well, I can pretend, can't I?

-Have a drink - console yourself.

-Yes. Lovely(!)

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Well, you have a hat to go to Ascot, you have a hat to go to Chelsea,

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why not have a hat to go to the Antiques Roadshow?

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-What a wonderful way to think. Is it an antique?

-No. I made it in half an hour yesterday.

-Really?

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Well, the experts might have something to say about those items.

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-Well you've certainly brightened our day! Good luck.

-Thank you.

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I'm from a mining village in Durham,

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and all of my family are from Tyneside.

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-Much of this was in my grandmother's house.

-They're all inherited?

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-Bar that big one.

-Yeah. Which came from?

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-That came from my husband as a birthday present.

-So you're now turning into a collector?

-Probably!

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It's all Maling ware, Tyneside pottery,

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and Maling was producing pottery right throughout the 19th century.

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-This 20th-century lustre-ware is getting more popular.

-Right.

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It's an interesting process - it's partly printed and partly painted,

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and Maling's quite difficult stuff to date, they used over 40 marks,

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and it may be a one-word difference on the mark which changes it.

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-Most of these are from the 1920s to 1940s period.

-Right.

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You've no idea how much Maling is?

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I know it's getting more expensive, but when it's handed down, you don't think about it.

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A pair of vases like these two here, which are in very good condition,

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-would fetch about £500 themselves. Really?

-Oh, gosh.

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This one is a bit later, but if you start totting these up,

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-it's going to amount to quite a lot of money.

-It is.

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I bought it off a friend who got it off an art teacher at a big school.

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-And where was he keeping it at the time?

-He had it in his dining room.

-In his dining room?

-Yes.

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-And where do you keep it now?

-In my front room.

-Oh, do you?

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-Yeah.

-It's a big enough room?

-Yeah.

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It is the most fantastic tableau.

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In the bottom right-hand corner, right down here, it says,

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"WJ Cole, naturalist and plumier" I think Mr Cole probably wasn't...

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a taxidermist as such, but he obviously dealt in feathers,

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so he had contacts around the world sending him exotic birds.

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And one always wonders whether he, perhaps, had a catalogue -

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he was producing large cases and this was a sort of Rolls-Royce case,

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-because you've got a fantastic array of birds here, haven't you?

-Yeah.

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I think it's about the 1880s.

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It's an interesting example, really, of what was known in the world at the time as well,

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-because we've got very little from Africa.

-Yeah.

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In the 1880s, South Africa was fully colonised, as Northern Africa was,

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but there's a big gap in the middle. At the time, in 1859, Darwin had written The Origin of the Species,

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and whilst it probably wasn't taught in schools because it was considered revolutionary,

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there is a finch here,

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and a lot of Darwin's theories on evolution were based on the development of the finch's beak,

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so one wonders whether Mr Cole was putting these in

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as a hint that Darwinism was very much of the day.

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And, of course, people today will probably think, "Gosh, it's a pretty horrible thing, this,

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"all these birds have been killed and stuffed," but at the time,

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this wasn't considered bad taste, and, you know...

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it is a wonderful period piece. Do you have any particular favourites?

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-I like the blue bird.

-What is it?

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I think it's a blue jay.

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And I like the parrot - he's a bit roughed up. We call him Woody

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-after a friend who's losing his hair in the same sort of way, you know.

-Perhaps that's why I like it too!

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-So you bought it recently?

-18 months, 2 years ago,

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-something like that.

-And what did you pay for it?

-£400.

-Really? Right.

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Well, a case like this in this sort of condition, today,

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-would make £3,000 or £4,000 at auction.

-Right.

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-So quite a nice turn, really.

-Yes.

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Great English houses of the 17th and 18th century often contained Oriental lacquer cabinets

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which were brought back from the Far East or made by English makers.

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This tradition went on into the 19th century.

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Lacquer scenes - flowers and people, traditional, but of its own time.

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-Where did you get it?

-Well, I seem to have remembered this all my life.

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I spent my childhood out in China,

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and both sets of grandparents worked out in China,

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-my parents were born out in China.

-Where were you?

-I was in Shanghai.

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-There was the Japanese invasion.

-That's right.

-Was that '38 or '39?

-I can't really remember.

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-The Japanese took over Shanghai?

-They did.

-You were there?

-We were.

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We tried to come home, but we couldn't, so they interned us for the duration. My father, who...

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He was a civil servant, and the first thing, when we got into the camp,

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-he was put straight into the cookhouse.

-Oh.

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And my mother, I can remember her in her fur coat,

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scrabbling around in coal piles trying to get enough coal together

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-to make coal balls to put on a chatti.

-Which was a little heater.

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It was like a tin -

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-which was the only form of heating.

-Have you got any records of this period? Or is it all just memory?

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Mostly it's memory. I've got some in this film here. Those are negatives.

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Have you had them printed?

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-Yes, well, a friend tried to, but not...

-Let's have a look.

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So we've got various images here. Let's look at some of them...

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-They're corrugated huts, are they?

-They were wood.

-Wood?

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-Yes, they were all identical.

-And each hut was one family?

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-Yes. Rows and rows of them.

-What an extraordinary experience.

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-And that one?

-And that is the last day, when the Japanese were leaving.

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-They were piled into a truck.

-And driven off?

-And driven off.

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-They weren't terribly happy. That one there was in tears.

-What, at leaving?

-Yes.

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-You'd built up relationships?

-Yes. They liked children and there were an awful lot of us kids in that camp.

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-And the Americans relieved you?

-Yes.

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Images of this sort of period are so unusual.

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It's extraordinary the way it brings to life something that is history.

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Now, the cabinet. This you didn't take with you into the prison camp?

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-Oh, no.

-So how did it come back? Did you get the house back?

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We were lucky again. We had a high-up Japanese official living in our home

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and he actually respected it.

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It's a very nice cabinet and, in Roadshow terms, worth about £1,000.

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But it's taken us into this extraordinary story

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-and I'm so glad you could bring it and tell us about it.

-I'm glad you were interested in it.

-Thank you.

-OK.

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It came from my husband's side of the family -

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his father and his grandfather before that. More than that we don't know.

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-So we go down four generations into the 19th century.

-Yes.

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Well, in the 19th century, there was a huge fad for this sort of object,

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and this was produced in Germany on the Rhine.

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The Rhine had ample supplies of stoneware clays,

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but the colour, this brown colour, is achieved

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by dunking the actual material in a wash of iron oxide.

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Very, very popular in the 19th century - the Germans were producing huge quantities of this,

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and the style of this piece is very 16th century.

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-Can you tell me what that says?

-Never looked that closely at it. There's little flowers,

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-then, "S84"?

-1-5.

-Oh, 1-5.

-1584.

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Now that's the period in the 19th century these German stoneware potters are copying.

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Now, the nice thing about yours is it's not a 19th-century copy,

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-it's a 16th-century original.

-Good heavens!

-So that is actually...

-I've never actually looked at the date.

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That is actually the date of the piece, and considering that it's over 400 years old,

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-it's not in a bad state.

-No, I suppose it's survived pretty well, really.

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It's known as an Enghalskrug - a narrow-necked flagon.

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Very often, when they come to England, they are mounted in silver.

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They were highly prized in the late 1500s, 1600s, sometimes they're even used for Communion.

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Now, a 19th-century copy is not really worth a great deal of money -

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it's worth maybe £40-£60. But yours is original,

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it's really a museum piece and if you were to put it up for sale,

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I suspect you'd get a price somewhere between...

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-£1,000 and £2,000.

-Which is a lot for a small brown pot.

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It is.

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Now, each generation at Knebworth has made its changes.

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-Lord Cobbold, what have you been concentrating on?

-Well, on restoration rather than innovation.

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We decided early on, 30 years ago, that we would try to preserve the Gothic fantasy element of Knebworth.

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I don't think there's another house in England like this, whereas there are lots of red-brick Tudor houses.

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And that is an expensive option, because these gargoyles are... They fall off after a while.

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Most people think they're stone, but, in fact, they're plaster.

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This is an old one. They were a mixture of plaster on brickwork,

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and they fixed it to the brickwork with these cast-iron nails,

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and once the water gets in, the cast iron rusts and then the gargoyles fall down.

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What is the appeal of gargoyles? What do they mean?

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Bulwer-Lytton, who was responsible for them all, was into the occult,

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and I think there are quite a few occultist references. The four big dragons on the top of the pillars

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are supposed to be warding off the spirits of the night.

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A lot of the smaller... There's a lot of bats on barrels.

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I think the medieval French for bat is lyt and ton is another word for barrel,

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so it's a play on the Lytton family name. These extraordinary figures

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on the top of the balcony are again bats on barrels.

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They'd long since gone

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and we've had to remodel those from 1880s black and white photographs

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-which we then blew up.

-And cost - enormous?

-The cost is horrendous.

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Since 1984, we have had a private charitable trust here.

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The charitable trust has spent, on this particular phase, £1 million,

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and English Heritage contributed £700,000, which was wonderful.

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Just under half the house is done,

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and we're looking at £3.5 million to £4 million to do the rest, but we'll have to wait a while for that.

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Henry Edward Tidmarsh was my great-uncle

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and he made his living as an artist and book illustrator.

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He obviously had a great love of painting,

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because many of his works, such as these,

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were never offered for sale and consequently are still in the family.

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That's true, because I'm not used to seeing his work on the market.

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I know him as a book illustrator and you occasionally see drawings,

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but they're nothing like these. These are extraordinary and they're in such good condition.

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It's almost as if he used particularly colour-fast pigments because... What date are they?

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-Are they dated?

-Er, 1909 is this, this one.

-Yes, I see.

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He's obviously an artist of record,

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meaning they are topographically very accurate, they seem to me.

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What's remarkable is that the overall effect is terribly dramatic.

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And also, he's got these figures in it.

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-They're very convincing.

-The interesting thing is that he painted over a considerable period of time.

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The earliest known works of his date from the late 1880s, and he actually died in 1939,

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and you can follow the date through his paintings by the changing fashions and the road vehicles

0:21:410:21:49

-and the street scenes.

-He's that accurate, yes.

0:21:490:21:53

Well, London, this has got to be...

0:21:530:21:55

-This is where he really begins to shine.

-Yes.

0:21:550:22:00

I just love this kind of view because you're high up,

0:22:000:22:04

probably about the same height - 450 feet or so above the ground -

0:22:040:22:09

as the the London Eye, the great wheel, you know,

0:22:090:22:13

-so you can really see how London has changed.

-The interesting thing is

0:22:130:22:19

that there is no vantage point from which this painting could have been painted.

0:22:190:22:24

The dome of the Central Hall here is the highest building,

0:22:240:22:30

-so it must have been painted from that position.

-So he's either in a hot-air balloon or he's made it up!

0:22:300:22:36

-Exactly.

-Well, coming to value...

0:22:360:22:39

I think that, that a picture this size, particularly the London one,

0:22:390:22:45

I'd have to put between £4,000 and £5,000 on it, perhaps,

0:22:450:22:50

for insurance, at least. And then the Italian one...

0:22:500:22:53

possibly £2,000 to £3,000 because it's smaller.

0:22:530:22:58

These days, you only need two people to get excited and the value will be more.

0:22:580:23:04

We went and viewed them and we were in an old cottage and we left bids.

0:23:040:23:08

We'd never done it before, so we just left.

0:23:080:23:12

We rang up in the middle of the following week and we said, you know, "How did we get on?"

0:23:120:23:19

And they said, "Oh, you got them,"

0:23:190:23:21

and we said "Which ones?" and they said, "All of them," and so we got 21 chairs

0:23:210:23:28

for £112, which in those days was quite a bit.

0:23:280:23:32

Two of the Gothic ones and a whole assortment of odd ones. Not this one.

0:23:320:23:38

-That came later, did it?

-No, it came from my family.

-Right.

0:23:380:23:43

-They're called Windsor chairs.

-Yes.

0:23:430:23:46

But they're not all made in Windsor or High Wycombe, the main centre.

0:23:460:23:51

These are West Country chairs, and the way to identify them quickly

0:23:510:23:55

is the way the arm here is made of three pieces.

0:23:550:23:59

You've got the arm there, the centre back rail there, and the same on this one, so it's a three-part arm.

0:23:590:24:06

I suspect that one is West Wycombe, rather than High Wycombe.

0:24:060:24:10

It's a slightly later back, but you've got this nice wheel splat -

0:24:100:24:15

pierced, beech, and then a heart shape at the bottom. Very nice.

0:24:150:24:19

And very nice with this ash arm with this little attachment here -

0:24:190:24:25

typical of that West Wycombe area.

0:24:250:24:29

These two are probably late-18th century, very difficult to date, so 200 years old.

0:24:290:24:35

The one on the right is probably 1850-80, something like that.

0:24:350:24:40

-This one really interests me. This has come from where?

-No idea?

0:24:400:24:45

I lived in London. I was born in Notting Hill.

0:24:450:24:49

Well, it's a High Wycombe chair - a typical High Wycombe configuration,

0:24:490:24:55

lovely yew arms, very nice hoop back here, elm seat.

0:24:550:24:59

There's a family called the Prior family, Robert Prior, around the turn of 1800,

0:24:590:25:05

making this particular type of chair,

0:25:050:25:08

with these three splat backs here, pierced by sticks, and these lovely roundels.

0:25:080:25:14

But Prior put these little miniature versions on the side,

0:25:140:25:19

and that's almost his hallmark.

0:25:190:25:22

What's interesting is that is about the Prior family, but it's unsigned,

0:25:220:25:27

and most Prior chairs are signed with a little stamp on the back, but this is not - I've had a good look.

0:25:270:25:34

And that probably means that it was his son-in-law who came into the business and made identical chairs,

0:25:340:25:41

so this is a new discovery.

0:25:410:25:44

So we have to come to value these chairs. This one is a family piece,

0:25:440:25:48

the others have come in a motley collection of 21 chairs.

0:25:480:25:53

I think... Let me just do a little bit of quick...

0:25:530:25:56

You've got about £5,000 sitting in front of us here.

0:25:560:26:00

-We'll sit on that!

-All of them together.

-Extraordinary!

0:26:000:26:05

But the most value is probably in this one.

0:26:050:26:09

This new research about the Prior family is going to make much more interest in these chairs.

0:26:090:26:15

-So of the £5,000, this is probably at least £2,000 worth.

-Mmm.

0:26:150:26:21

If there's one thing everyone thinks about when they think of Rolls Royce, it's the Spirit of Ecstasy,

0:26:210:26:27

-this, I suppose, vision of ethereal beauty.

-Yes.

0:26:270:26:32

It's a wonderful bronze.

0:26:320:26:35

The original was designed by Charles Sykes in 1911,

0:26:350:26:40

which was when the first Spirit of Ecstasy - a much smaller version -

0:26:400:26:45

was first put on a Rolls-Royce. Interestingly enough,

0:26:450:26:49

it was an optional extra to begin with.

0:26:490:26:52

She's commonly believed to be Eleanor Thornton,

0:26:520:26:56

who was Charles Sykes' favourite model. Where did you get her from?

0:26:560:27:01

We bought it at an auction in New Jersey. We lived there for five years, and we bought it in 1987.

0:27:010:27:07

It was an auction of Chinese things, mostly, but this was one odd item there.

0:27:070:27:12

-It was not listed as the Spirit of Ecstasy.

-It wasn't?

0:27:120:27:17

-No, it was just a bronze figure.

-Well, she certainly caught the eye.

0:27:170:27:22

-But very few people at the auction actually...

-Your lucky day.

-Yes, it was.

-OK, what did you pay for it?

0:27:220:27:28

-About 800.

-800 in 1988.

-That was about £400.

-Yeah, OK.

0:27:280:27:35

Well, it's a wonderful bronze figure.

0:27:350:27:38

Bronze figures of this size were actually used by Rolls-Royce for their main showrooms,

0:27:380:27:45

as a showroom model. Rolls-Royce, I believe,

0:27:450:27:49

only know of about nine or ten of these models.

0:27:490:27:54

But the interesting thing here is this particular one is numbered.

0:27:540:27:59

-What's the number?

-28.

0:27:590:28:01

So it may be that there were more than nine or ten made. I think the records were lost in the war.

0:28:010:28:07

The only other thing is that there are a tremendous number of facsimiles around,

0:28:070:28:13

not just of bronze, which this is, and you can hear it,

0:28:130:28:18

-but also of plaster, coloured to look like bronze.

-Yes.

0:28:180:28:21

It's very difficult to know,

0:28:210:28:24

without a really good provenance, whether this is an original

0:28:240:28:30

that was made specifically for one of the Rolls-Royce franchises, or whether this is a later casting.

0:28:300:28:36

If you look at the base here, this black marble base,

0:28:360:28:41

it's quite unusual to find these with a rectangular base,

0:28:410:28:45

because all of the later castings I've seen, are on circular bases.

0:28:450:28:52

-So this is quite a good plus point, I have to say.

-OK.

0:28:520:28:55

So you can't just discount that. What about value?

0:28:550:29:00

The facsimiles, the later castings,

0:29:000:29:04

are not worth a huge amount of money and they can fetch anywhere between £800 and £1,200.

0:29:040:29:10

If we were able to prove that this was absolutely genuine, that it came out of a dealer's showroom,

0:29:100:29:18

-then the likelihood is it could be worth £8,000 to £10,000.

-Wow!

0:29:180:29:23

So it may well pay you to do a little poking about, a little research.

0:29:230:29:28

-It might be worth a trip back to the States.

-It could be!

0:29:280:29:31

These are called Georgian dummy boards,

0:29:360:29:40

and they were made as fire screens

0:29:400:29:42

and when they were placed in front of the fire, it looked as if someone was in the house.

0:29:420:29:49

They're fine, fine military and naval figures.

0:29:490:29:53

-Do you know anything about them?

-Only what my son's partner told me - they belonged to her grandmother.

0:29:530:30:01

-Right.

-And she was a maid and her grandfather was a chauffeur,

0:30:010:30:06

but what part of the country, I can't tell you.

0:30:060:30:10

They've gone on holiday to Corfu and they've asked me to bring them here.

0:30:100:30:14

-Right, well, you'll have something to tell them when you get back.

-Yes.

0:30:140:30:19

This is a Georgian figure of an officer in the Royal Horse Artillery

0:30:190:30:25

wearing his Tarleton helmet.

0:30:250:30:27

And on the side of that helmet is two battle honours -

0:30:270:30:32

one of the Peninsula, the other one would be Waterloo.

0:30:320:30:35

So they wore that particular uniform until 1828.

0:30:350:30:39

Now, on the other side here we have a naval officer.

0:30:390:30:44

Now, when William IV came to the throne,

0:30:440:30:47

he wanted the Royal Navy in scarlet uniforms

0:30:470:30:52

and I think they settled for making the collars and cuffs scarlet,

0:30:520:30:59

and then when we get into the period of Victoria,

0:30:590:31:03

we're all back in blue again.

0:31:030:31:06

-I think it was obnoxious for the navy to have scarlet.

-Yes.

0:31:060:31:10

They're fine fellows - beautifully painted, and quite scarce and desirable,

0:31:100:31:16

-and today in auction, these would fetch between £500 and £800 each.

-Oh, as much as that?

-As much as that.

0:31:160:31:22

-That's a nice present for when they come back.

-Yes indeed, yes.

0:31:220:31:26

-This is a beautiful contraption. What's its history?

-I bought it about 40 years ago and renovated it,

0:31:260:31:33

-and we've been showing with it ever since.

-And how old is it?

-It's just the beginning of the 1900s -

0:31:330:31:40

-we found out it was built.

-And does it have a name? What type of...?

-A round-backed gig.

0:31:400:31:47

-It sounds like something to do with the Knebworth rock concerts!

-Yes!

0:31:470:31:51

-So how much work did you do in it?

-We stripped it down,

0:31:510:31:55

undercoated and repainted.

0:31:550:31:59

Do you take it to shows?

0:31:590:32:01

We've won the Welsh Cob Championship at the British Driving Society Show at Windsor,

0:32:010:32:07

and presented to the Queen twice,

0:32:070:32:09

and we've won most championships throughout the south of England

0:32:090:32:14

in the county shows.

0:32:140:32:16

They belonged to my grandmother and then I inherited via my mother,

0:32:160:32:20

and these were the ones that my grandmother most wore.

0:32:200:32:25

-Have you worn them?

-I've worn the arrow.

0:32:250:32:28

I haven't worn the sapphire and diamond one.

0:32:280:32:31

The arrow's got a most interesting action called a surete pin -

0:32:310:32:35

it has a twisting action. There's a little notch in the end here

0:32:350:32:40

which catches into a key mechanism that secures it and then you push the bar through the material

0:32:400:32:47

and it looks as if you've been speared with one of Cupid's darts.

0:32:470:32:51

It's beautiful. The materials couldn't be more of the period.

0:32:510:32:56

Do you know what the black stone is?

0:32:560:32:59

-I wasn't sure. Onyx?

-Mm, bang on. Black onyx and diamonds.

0:32:590:33:04

A chic combination of black and white in this Cupid's dart.

0:33:040:33:08

This one here possibly pre-dates it.

0:33:080:33:10

There are five beautiful little diamonds in platinum.

0:33:100:33:14

That the settings of these jewels are completely consistent -

0:33:140:33:18

we call it "millegrains" - 1,000 grains.

0:33:180:33:21

Around the diamonds you can just see these tiny little perforations,

0:33:210:33:26

-like the edge of a stamp. Do you see those little...?

-Oh, yes.

0:33:260:33:30

-I hadn't noticed that.

-It's very distinctive of that period.

0:33:300:33:34

-These are pure and lovely diamonds and...

-I feel it looks ostentatious when I wear it.

-Do you?

-Yes.

0:33:340:33:41

English girls are all terrified of diamonds now.

0:33:410:33:45

Years ago, they didn't mind, but now it's not popular, which is a shame

0:33:450:33:49

-because they're all languishing in drawers.

-Yes.

-It's like nightingales singing and nobody hearing them.

0:33:490:33:56

Anyway, this is lovely jewel - a sort of conventionalised blue and white ribbon

0:33:560:34:02

made of sapphires and diamonds,

0:34:020:34:04

and again we can see the millegrains setting in operation here,

0:34:040:34:09

in the drop more obviously than anywhere else.

0:34:090:34:12

If I put it up against you... It's a good scale, isn't it?

0:34:120:34:17

The diamond moves just as it should to get this lovely return of light.

0:34:170:34:21

They're beautiful, beautiful things and with jewellery there's always talk of value -

0:34:210:34:27

the subject's almost inseparable, really,

0:34:270:34:30

and so we've got to consider it a bit.

0:34:300:34:33

I think they are exactly the kind of scale that everybody would like to wear - they're not too large,

0:34:330:34:40

so I'm thinking sort of, perhaps, £2,500 to £3,000 for this one...

0:34:400:34:45

maybe more, actually. Why not a bit more?

0:34:450:34:49

And, and um... I'm thinking this one, too -

0:34:510:34:56

very contemporary and amusing

0:34:560:34:59

and I do love it, I must say. £2,000 for that one.

0:34:590:35:03

-Ouch?

-Oh, dear, they're not insured separately.

-No, no, well, maybe they will be. And this one -

0:35:030:35:10

is the most sophisticated one. It's possible that this is made

0:35:100:35:15

by one of the great French houses - Cartier or Boucheron or Mouboussin -

0:35:150:35:19

or Van Cleef & Arpels in 1900.

0:35:190:35:22

The stones are cut exactly for this jewel,

0:35:220:35:26

they occupy the space very elegantly and nonchalantly

0:35:260:35:29

and it's a lovely thing that everybody would want,

0:35:290:35:33

so £6,000. Ouch!

0:35:330:35:36

I don't know an awful lot about chronometers.

0:35:380:35:42

-No.

-It was left to me in a will by an old drinking pal.

0:35:420:35:46

-How long ago?

-Um, he left it to me about six years ago.

-Right.

0:35:460:35:51

Let's have a look at the dial. It's signed Parkinson and Frodsham, Change Alley, London -

0:35:510:35:57

Very, very nice firm of makers and retailers.

0:35:570:36:01

And rather unusually, above that,

0:36:010:36:03

engraved into the dial and then waxed in red,

0:36:030:36:07

we've got "Frodsham and Keen" and underneath, "Resprung 1891".

0:36:070:36:12

Frodsham and Keen, I think, worked in Castle Street, Liverpool,

0:36:120:36:18

so, at some stage, this has gone up to the northwest. It's coromandel,

0:36:180:36:23

which is very unusual for a chronometer box. It's also fully brass-bound, as you can see.

0:36:230:36:29

-Yes.

-And double stringing as well.

0:36:290:36:32

This would have been a VERY expensive thing, new.

0:36:320:36:37

You can imagine the extra work that's gone into this sort of case,

0:36:370:36:41

rather than a standard mahogany box.

0:36:410:36:43

This would have probably been on some very expensive private yacht.

0:36:430:36:48

Well, we undo this gimbal lock here, move that across,

0:36:480:36:54

and if you can imagine a ship pitching and rolling in a heavy sea,

0:36:540:36:59

notice that the chronometer bowl should - and is - remaining in the horizontal.

0:36:590:37:06

I'll re-lock it

0:37:070:37:09

and then to have a look inside, we undo this front bezel...

0:37:090:37:13

..and there are various different ways. Remove that, otherwise that's going to fall out,

0:37:160:37:23

and then I'll literally just invert the whole box

0:37:230:37:27

and out comes the movement.

0:37:270:37:30

This is a nice touch - the dust cap,

0:37:330:37:36

which has a bayonet fitting on the movement. Pull that off

0:37:360:37:40

and there we have a lovely marine chronometer movement.

0:37:400:37:44

And you've got a lovely balance,

0:37:440:37:47

a superb helical spring - it's all freesprung -

0:37:470:37:51

it has the normal sort of escapement, and it should keep time

0:37:510:37:55

-to within a couple of seconds a week.

-A couple of seconds a week?

-Better than that, yeah.

0:37:550:38:01

So your drinking chum didn't give you any indication of value on it?

0:38:010:38:07

Well, he did, because he gave me a receipt from the place where he bought it from, in 1979, I think.

0:38:070:38:13

-Right.

-He paid £1,300 for it then.

0:38:130:38:16

-That's a lot of money in '79.

-Sounds a lot to me.

-A lot of money. Do you know where he got it from?

0:38:170:38:23

-He bought it as Aspreys.

-Ah, well,

0:38:230:38:27

that would have been top retail money at the time.

0:38:270:38:29

He started a small collection of timepieces of various sorts,

0:38:290:38:35

but, unfortunately, a lot were stolen in a robbery and this one escaped.

0:38:350:38:40

It's a great piece - very, very commercial in the current market.

0:38:400:38:44

If I were selling it at a good antiques fair, I could look towards...

0:38:440:38:49

£5,000. It's a good piece.

0:38:490:38:53

It'll pay off his bar bill that he left me, then, won't it?

0:38:530:38:58

It's a family piece, it's just been handed down through the family, and it's ended up with us.

0:39:010:39:06

It's actually Japanese,

0:39:060:39:09

and it's popularly called Satsuma,

0:39:090:39:11

which is a high-fired earthenware

0:39:110:39:16

with a crackled glaze - the crazing is part of it, it's not a defect.

0:39:160:39:22

Er...it developed really in response to Japan opening up to the West,

0:39:220:39:29

which it did in 1853-54.

0:39:290:39:32

The Satsuma type wares - one of the great makers was a man called Sobei Kinkozan,

0:39:340:39:41

from a long family of potters. Kinkozan was interesting

0:39:410:39:45

because he had this factory turning out this stuff and you could just go and buy a piece and go away again.

0:39:450:39:52

If you said, "Have you got any really good bits?" you were taken to his own house

0:39:520:39:59

and he had a decorating studio attached to his house where all the best stuff was done,

0:39:590:40:05

so it was a two-tier manufacturing process. This a top piece,

0:40:050:40:10

this is a really knock-out piece.

0:40:100:40:13

It's in the form of a tea canister, but I don't think it was meant for serious use.

0:40:130:40:19

On the bottom we'd expect to find - and have got - his mark "Kinkozan",

0:40:190:40:25

and the bottom character is "sukuru",

0:40:250:40:29

which means "made".

0:40:290:40:31

Round it, what appears to be just simply decoration,

0:40:310:40:35

but actually, it's in very stylised characters, it says "Dai Nihon" -

0:40:350:40:39

"great Japan", and then "Kyoto".

0:40:390:40:42

The decoration on here is just breathtaking.

0:40:440:40:49

It is just unbelievable that someone

0:40:490:40:52

could take a brush with enamel colours on it

0:40:520:40:55

and do this extraordinarily detailed painting.

0:40:550:40:59

The scenes are absolutely typical -

0:40:590:41:02

we've got a woman and her daughter, we've got a mountainous landscape,

0:41:020:41:08

we've got a cockerel perched on a blue rock,

0:41:080:41:11

we've got a couple of children,

0:41:110:41:14

another landscape with figures going up to a...house in the mountains,

0:41:140:41:21

and here, which is very nice,

0:41:210:41:23

a dog-like character - it looks like a cross between a dog and a cat.

0:41:230:41:28

Um, the sort of grey clouds which appear to be up here - up close -

0:41:280:41:34

every single dot is painted with the single hair of a brush

0:41:340:41:39

and that's actual gold, and that's continued over here.

0:41:390:41:43

Now one of Kinkozan's introductions was this dark blue enamel which he then gilded,

0:41:430:41:49

and the problem is with it,

0:41:490:41:52

the gold doesn't like sticking on it very much and is usually worn off.

0:41:520:41:57

Here, it's with very slight wear, it's still in pristine condition.

0:41:570:42:02

Some of the panels are actually signed by the painter,

0:42:040:42:09

and you've got at least two painters on this piece.

0:42:090:42:14

This one is one I can read - it says "Oshizan".

0:42:140:42:19

It's, I think, a remarkable find,

0:42:190:42:22

-it's as good as a piece of Satsuma as I've seen on the Roadshow.

-Oh.

0:42:220:42:27

-Really. Where do you have it at home?

-Stuck in my husband's office.

0:42:270:42:33

Whereabout in his office? Offices sound like crashing about -

0:42:330:42:37

-telephones, files...

-On a shelf.

-On a shelf. It's safe, is it?

-Um, well, I thought so.

0:42:370:42:44

-..I'll put it in a glass cabinet when get home.

-Put it in a glass cabinet,

0:42:440:42:49

-because it's worth £8,000 to £10,000.

-Blimey!

0:42:490:42:54

Thank you very much.

0:42:550:42:58

Thank you for bringing it in.

0:42:580:43:01

Well, the rain stayed away, the people came along and there were some interesting stories -

0:43:010:43:06

like the jewellery that was about to be sold in a car-boot sale for £1,

0:43:060:43:11

was brought along here instead and found to be not paste but real diamonds. That's a happy ending.

0:43:110:43:17

We shall be back at Knebworth next week for a closer look inside the house. Until then, goodbye.

0:43:170:43:24

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