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"What is this life, if full of care, we have no time to stand and stare?"

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That was written by WH Davies, born in Newport, South Wales,

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this week's Antiques Roadshow venue.

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Newport's river is the Usk.

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The Romans set up a fortress at Caerleon, bringing in supplies from all over their empire for 200 years.

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But Newport itself was just a small fishing and market town

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until the 19th-century industrial age.

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The town grew and flourished.

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The canal system brought down coal and iron from the valleys for shipment,

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and soon Newport docks did more business than almost any other UK port.

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Two miles from town stands Tredegar House, home of the Morgan family,

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who played an important part in developing the fortunes of the area.

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They lived here for over 500 years,

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their estates stretching through Monmouth, Glamorgan and the Brecon Beacons.

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Godfrey, a favourite in the town, donated land generously to establish health and education facilities.

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Godfrey Morgan himself had been to hell and back -

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he took part in the Charge of the Light Brigade.

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He was so grateful to have survived, when his horse, Sir Briggs, died,

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he had him buried here in the garden, along with his dog Peeps,

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who is said to haunt the building.

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The last, most colourful, occupant of the house was Evan Morgan.

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Extravagant and self-indulgent, he entertained lavishly. His weekend house parties were legendary.

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His party piece was to let his pet macaw climb up the inside of his trouser leg,

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then peep out unexpectedly.

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If that didn't amuse his guests, they could always watch his boxing kangaroo,

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or they could try the Cefn Mabli shuffleboard.

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Each player takes a brass disc and takes it in turn to slide it down the table.

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The person whose disc gets furthest without coming off the table wins.

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Here goes...

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In 1974, a bright new chapter began for the former home of the Morgans

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when Newport Borough Council bought Tredegar House and 90 acres of parkland.

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The country's grandest council house was recently voted one of the top tourist attractions in Britain.

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And now let's join our team of experts at the Newport Centre

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for this week's Antiques Roadshow.

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-You collect miniatures, do you(?)

-I do.

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-Where do you keep it?

-On the wardrobe.

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How wonderful! Has it always stood on a wardrobe?

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When my mother was alive, it was on a piano.

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-An upright?

-Yes.

-It could topple!

-Yes.

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These were never made for use.

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-I shouldn't think it's ever seen tea.

-Yes, it has.

-It has?

-Yes.

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My grandmother, when she lived in Kidwelly, used it at street parties.

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-No!

-Yes.

-How extraordinary!

-Yes.

-What a wonderful idea!

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Well, they weren't actually made for use, they were display pieces,

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either made by a manufacturer to show how clever he was

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and to advertise his wares,

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or, more often, they were in the window of a tea shop.

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The fact that it's been used is really rather wonderful.

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-It holds 144 cups.

-You've measured it?

-Well, my mother always said that.

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I can believe it.

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-It's made in Staffordshire.

-Yes.

-The design is transfer printed in black,

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then all the colours have been added by hand. It dates from 1860 to 1880.

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-Good gosh!

-So it's a pretty ancient pot, really.

-Yeah.

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One suspects that when it was made,

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-it was silver-plated all over.

-Yes.

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You see remnants of the plate, but it's been polished off on the lid,

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and this is so common to find that. But at least it's retained the lid.

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What's nice about it is the design is so chinoiserie, it is Cathay,

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it is the English idea of the mythical East, and that ties up with tea,

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so it's an appropriate Chinese design.

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People love them for display. It would probably make in a sale...

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-£600 to £1,000.

-Good gosh! Lovely.

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-So I don't know that it deserves to be sitting on a wardrobe.

-No.

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-Thank you very much for struggling in with it.

-Thank you very much.

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It was an old people's home, and someone came into the home, and all the stuff from the house

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-was put into a fair, and I bought it at the fair for 20 pence.

-Right.

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Biscuits, early on, were often sold in elaborate tins and packaging

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to promote the biscuits,

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and by the 1920s, 1930s,

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-you could buy trains, planes... You name it, a biscuit tin was made in that form.

-Yes.

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-This has meant that people have lost interest in the biscuits, but they collect the tins.

-Yes.

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Here we have one called the Meteor,

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based on a car driven by Sir Henry Seagrave, but only up to a point,

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and it's a stylish streamlined image in wonderful, flowing colours.

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And as you go along,

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I like the way the wheels have this dynamic pattern to them.

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Inside would be the biscuits.

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-..No biscuits, but we've got some Woodbines.

-Yes.

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So you have a smoke if you can't have a biscuit.

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Many tins were thrown away when they were empty, so they're quite rare.

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-Collectors are keen to buy them, there was even an exhibition in the V & A years ago.

-Was there?

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The remarkable thing about this one is that it is effectively brand-new,

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there's very little marking on it.

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All that's missing is a headlight there, with a switch here,

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-so you could push it along in the dark with the headlight glowing.

-Oh.

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Otherwise, it's pretty immaculate.

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-Now, great car... great 1930s styling. 20p?

-Yes, 20p.

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-I think it's worth quite a bit more than that now.

-Yes.

-I think you did very well.

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-How about £200? Does that sound good?

-I have been told it's worth a bit more than that.

-Have you?

-Yes.

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-What were you told?

-About 1,000.

-No.

-No?

-I'd say that was too much.

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-With the light and switch missing, 200 or 300 would be about right.

-Oh?

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It belonged to my uncle, who was an antique dealer in Bristol.

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He died in 1980 and it was his wish that I chose one of his paintings.

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-I chose this.

-I think you made a good choice.

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-The picture is signed, and it's signed with a monogram...

-Yes.

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..and a date - 1878. I think I know who that monogram is, but what's your...?

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-I believe it's Albert Ludovici.

-Yes. And there is a Junior and a Senior.

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-Absolutely right.

-I don't know which one it is.

-I agree it is by one of the Albert Ludovicis.

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They were both Italian, but they both came to live in London, and also lived in Paris.

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Now, I really find it difficult to know which Ludovici this is.

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The date is possible for either of them.

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-They have similar styles?

-Yes, they do. I'm inclined towards the opinion that it's by Ludovici Junior.

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And it's typical of both the Ludovicis' style. It's slightly sort of sketchy and impressionist.

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But he does paint these charming pictures of children with smiling, rosy faces.

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That's typical of Ludovici.

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-And is he a musician?

-Yes, I believe he's a musician, and this is his organ here.

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I see. So he's an organ grinder with his monkey.

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Yes, well, this is it.

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In villages in the late 19th century, not much happened and the arrival of an entertainer like this

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was a big village event - everybody turned out -

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-so here they are following him and he's heading for the pub.

-Yes.

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The frame is original, isn't it?

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Yes, a nice period frame in good condition, and in a sale now, I would reckon this painting

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-would make £5,000 or £6,000.

-Right.

-Maybe more as it's a nice subject.

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-I certainly suggest insuring it for, say, 7,500.

-OK.

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-A very charming picture.

-Thank you very much.

-Delighted to have it.

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I can see why you've a problem!

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-You've the hunting horn of Chantilly but it's a very grey piece of porcelain.

-Very English-looking.

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-Drilled Sevres mark, but it's been drilled through the glaze.

-Yeah.

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Someone's trying to have two cakes and eat them.

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Yeah, it's amusing, isn't it?

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And then this pattern,

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the squirrel pattern, is a Kakiyemon pattern

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done in a Chinese famille rose style

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on a plate that is English with a French Chantilly mark and a drilled hole for Sevres!

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Where do you think it was done?

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I think it's English. It's incompetent enough to be English.

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But this craquelure in the glaze... I honestly don't know.

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-But it's fun, isn't it?

-Thank you very much. We're no further forward. I'll break the news to the owners.

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I understand that this was made by my wife's grandfather

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during the Second World War.

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And apparently it's a device for dealing with incendiary bombs

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that may fall through your ceiling.

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So how does it go together?

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Apparently one combines these two halves...

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like that.

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You then have a rake with which you can reach into the eaves of the house

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and pull the incendiary device to you,

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and if one is very careful and doesn't hit anybody round about...

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we can scoop up the incendiary device and get rid of it.

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Was this a one-off or were these standard issue?

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What I find interesting...

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Apparently, this was a one-off,

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but one of your experts this morning told me that he collected, when he was a child,

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Wills cigarette cards, and there were pictures of ARP issue,

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and that's what prompted him that this might well be the use for this.

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So we have a bit of 60-year-old... genuine...war memorabilia.

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Fabulous!

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-I had it as a small boy. My mother's cousin gave it me.

-Right.

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-And that was about 1930.

-But it's older than that, isn't it?

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-Well, maybe so. I think it was in a broken box when I had it.

-Right.

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That's been lost because we played with it so often.

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It's a fairly traditional game, I should say.

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-It's Dreadnought And Submarine.

-Yes, that was the name on the box.

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-I've never done it. Will you let me drive the submarine?

-Yes.

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-You can be the ship's captain.

-OK.

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You're sailing along the high seas and I'm coming along in my submarine and I'm coming into position...

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Aim, fire!

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Hey!

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You've made my day. I've always wanted to do that.

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I suppose we have to think about value. First made about 1910,

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in production probably for a long time as a standard popular toy.

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Because it's all here, and it's great fun, I think a collector might pay £20 or £30 for it.

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-But that's not the point - the great thing is, it works.

-Yes.

-And I can see why you enjoyed it so much.

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I'd like to have another go now.

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This bear has an absolutely charming action, and if we move his tail,

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we get the most wonderful head movement, which I think is really, really fantastic.

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I would say that he was probably just pre-war and probably about 60, 65 years old. Would I be right?

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-Yes.

-Good.

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-Now, do you know who he's made by?

-Well, I've always had him,

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and it's only a month ago I noticed

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-the button in his ear.

-So you've only just discovered it was a Steiff?

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Yes, literally a month ago.

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He's quite a valuable thing - he's in superb condition -

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and I have no doubt that if he were popped into a toy auction,

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-he'd make in excess of £500.

-Mmm.

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-It's been in the family for 70 years.

-How did it come into the family?

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Mother bought it when she set up home

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and when Victoriana was practically given away.

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It's a very good piece in Gothic revival style,

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which dominated the 19th century in English furniture design and architecture,

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starting with Pugin, the father of the modern Gothic revival in the 1830s and '40s.

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But this piece belongs to the second generation of Gothic revival,

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and although it's not marked in any way, I am certain that it was designed by a Charles Bevan.

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Charles Bevan was a professional furniture designer who trained with an architect, John Pollard Seddon.

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Seddon worked for some time in Llandaff,

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-so he has a local connection.

-Oh.

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A well-known suite of furniture made by Marsh and Jones and designed by Bevan for Titus Salt

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-has sufficient characteristics with this that one can be certain that it's from his hand.

-Oh.

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These little half-round motifs with a dot in it

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are very characteristic of his work.

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This cut-out Gothic motif here, and this column here

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are all things you find on this Titus Salt furniture.

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The panel in the front here, round Gothic panel with dot inlay, very, very characteristic of Bevan's work,

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and it's an extremely nice example.

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You associate Gothic revival furniture with being in oak,

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but by this later generation, made in the 1860s, they used richer woods

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which was more the taste of that period, so the oak has faded back.

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In terms of value, do you have any idea what this might be worth?

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-It was valued at between 400 and 600.

-Would you like some good news in that respect?

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-Well, yes.

-You should add a nought to the end of that.

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-For insurance, one's looking in terms of £6,000.

-Really?

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It's the best sort of commercial furniture.

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-I nearly threw it away!

-I

-wouldn't let him. I like it. I'm stuck with it now, aren't I?

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Definitely! Thank you for bringing it in. It really is very special.

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It was a wedding present to my uncle in the '30s and has been passed down.

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-You remember it when you were young?

-It was on the mantelpiece. Firelight reflected in the iridescence.

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Iridescence is the key to this piece

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because if you look very closely, you've got these beautiful areas of ruby iridescence,

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and in the panels with these flower motifs, you've silver iridescence,

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and the whole vase is covered in this...

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-well, almost green iridescence.

-Yes.

-Do you know where it's from?

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-I did look underneath.

-You did?

-I could see it was a Hungarian factory,

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but I was puzzled because of the shape and the arabesque style.

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You're quite right. This is the mark of a factory known as Fuenfkirchen - Five Churches -

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which explains why you've got five churches in the mark, but it now is known as the Pecs factory

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or Zsolnay Pecs. Hungarian. And...

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Hungarian, yes.

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I mean, it's very Eastern in style. It owes more to Persian lacquerwork

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than anything mainstream, north-west European.

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It's a gorgeous little object, a stunning object, made around the year I think 1900,

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middle of the Art Nouveau period, later than the great English lustres made by the likes of de Morgan,

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but they're far more swashbuckling designs.

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This is very miniaturist, fantastically well done.

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I can't keep my eyes off this.

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If you go round the vase, although the pattern is quite repetitive,

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the tones of the lustre do change and shimmer. It's a beautiful thing.

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-Is it an unusual pattern?

-I've never seen this pattern before.

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Zsolnay is a factory I associate with Art Nouveau, and this is closer to Persian, Paisley-style motifs.

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It comes quite close to Pilkington's Royal Lancastrian, in this country.

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Difficult to put a value on. If you wanted to go out and replace that today,

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you'd have to think in terms of an insurance value of around £5,000.

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Good heavens! Pardon?!

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Good Lord! Oh...that's a shock!

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I'm amazed!

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As a jewellery historian, I'm so pleased you brought in this ring.

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It's quite an unusual ring. So where did you get it from?

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It was handed down to me by my aunt,

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a lady-in-waiting and housekeeper for Lady Shelley-Rolls of Rolls-Royce.

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-Indeed?

-Yes.

-So there's a pedigree about it.

-Yes.

-Did you look at it

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and wonder about the skull motif?

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This gruesome, brutal-looking skull?

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-Yes, it's not a nice ring to wear.

-It doesn't suit everybody's taste,

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but the very gruesomeness of the skull is a point about its date.

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In mourning jewellery -

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jewels that were worn when someone died - those in the Victorian period are quite sanitised-looking.

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But the early ones, made about 1720,

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-those ones are far more brutal.

-Yes.

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So the skull on this one is about 1700, 1720.

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-It's covered in white, which is of course white enamel.

-Yes.

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You've got the crossbones behind, so it looks like a pirate's flag.

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The shoulders are set individually with little white stones that are real diamonds.

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-So there's the skull, the table-cut diamonds, as we would call it.

-Yes.

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Then there's enamel scrollwork above the skull.

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Then if you have a look at the side of the shank of the ring,

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it's also black-enamelled round the edge there.

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So in what is...I suppose you could describe as quite a compact part of the ring

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is full of different pieces - white and black enamel, the diamonds.

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-But most interesting is the skull. ..Something else as well?

-Yes, a small brooch.

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Unusual brooch. I think it's a brooch, anyway.

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This is a very fascinating piece.

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-Made about the mid-Victorian period, so it's later than that.

-Yes.

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They've painted a bubble of rock crystal from behind with the bumblebee motif.

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They painted them with all sorts of different subjects, like herons, storks and cranes.

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Bumblebees, though - very nice. It's one of those subjects people love,

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-the bumblebee.

-Yes.

-And on the back you'll see...

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the original locket-back compartment that would have been used for a lock of hair or a photograph.

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Unfortunately, the one slight problem with it is that the original hook has been broken off it.

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It's not super-critical. If the crystal at the front was cracked, that would make a huge difference.

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But the fact that you can put a little hook on it, that can be done.

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So, two very different pieces, different periods. Their value...

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They're a very specific market, but people really do like them. Now, the skull ring

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-I think is probably worth something in the region of £1,500.

-Right.

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-I never liked it.

-And it's a real collector's piece, that one.

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But the bumblebee brooch in the 1860 style, I think that's worth £2,000 to £3,000.

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You've surprised me.

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And that's been hanging about in a box.

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-You thought it was costume jewellery?

-Carol never liked it.

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Can you imagine how excited I was when I saw it?

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It's such a beautiful, pedigree, Victorian piece.

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You must have a passion for things costume-related. These are lovely pieces.

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I would like to introduce Lucy, who has very kindly agreed to wear one of your most beautiful outfits.

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She looks very lovely, too.

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This is a typical mid-'20s what some people might call a "flapper" dress.

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Very glamorous.

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-Very nicely decorated with rhinestones.

-Sparkling.

-With a slit.

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It has a few little diamantes missing.

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They do tend to drop off,

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-especially with use, have to be very, very careful.

-They're extremely fragile outfits.

-They are, yes.

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Makes you wonder how the flappers did all they were supposed to have done with those dresses on!

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-You can see how beautiful it is with the lace.

-Lovely.

-Very lovely.

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She looks beautiful.

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-I think a dress like that is probably worth up to £200 at auction now.

-Really?

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So I think you did very well, obviously.

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-This I particularly like, because this is a silver, metallised thread creation, of the same period.

-Yes.

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-Maybe a little bit later but still very straight.

-Still attractive and a lot of work in this metal thread.

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But the silver, metallised thread hasn't tarnished.

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They don't see daylight very often these days.

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-Outfits like this, from that period, were well accessorised.

-Yes.

-And you've got a selection.

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-Clutch bags...

-Capes.

-..which are very beautiful and very finely made.

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This is a particularly beautiful example.

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Chain stitch and glass beadwork, with superb little enamelled features

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-and mother-of-pearl stringing on the purse itself.

-Really?

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-Traditionally a very Indian form of decoration.

-Was it?

-Exquisite.

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A good example like this will make between £100 and £200 at auction.

0:24:540:24:59

-Frightening, isn't it?

-Yes, it is. You have such a good collection.

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There are a couple of other outfits which interest me.

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I've looked at the label in this one and it's by a local supplier, Jones.

0:25:090:25:13

-Oh, yes.

-And, um...

-Swansea.

-Yes, that's right, of Swansea. This is a similar period, this coat,

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but it's not of the same quality.

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It was very typical to decorate the collars and things.

0:25:230:25:28

-What fur would you say that was?

-It's cony.

-I thought it was sable.

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No, cony made to look like sable.

0:25:330:25:36

-At auction that would be worth about £60 to £100.

-Mmm.

-I think you have some wonderful things.

0:25:360:25:43

I know you have more. This is only a fraction of what I could have looked at.

0:25:430:25:50

-Where did he come from?

-I've had him 20 years. I bought him quite cheaply.

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A lady was clearing out some bits and pieces and she said, "Yes, you have it."

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I paid a few pounds for it.

0:26:020:26:05

-The head is bisque. I know you thought that might be real hair.

-Yes.

-It's actually mohair.

-Is it?

0:26:050:26:13

There are variations on this. Some of them had sleeping eyes,

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so that when it went from upright to horizontal, the eyes would close.

0:26:170:26:22

-Some of them also had an open mouth with two teeth.

-I have seen bigger ones with open mouths, but...

0:26:220:26:30

-Not this small.

-No.

-They did do them.

0:26:300:26:34

-This one is a more standard version.

-Right.

-I think it's wonderful

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that he's still got all his original hat...a lovely little thistle on the top,

0:26:380:26:44

-even a little sporran.

-I know.

0:26:440:26:47

We won't look up his skirt.

0:26:470:26:50

Oh, we will, because he's got shorts underneath. Not a true Scotsman!

0:26:500:26:56

I think he'd probably fetch in the region of £150 to £180 at auction. Lovely.

0:26:560:27:02

In Newport, history comes at you from all sides.

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None of it more dramatic than what happened in 1839. ..The Chartists.

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5,000 men - iron workers and coal miners from Monmouthshire

0:27:130:27:18

arriving in the town in the early hours of November 4th 1839.

0:27:180:27:23

They advanced on the Westgate Hotel where a group of 30 soldiers of the 45th Regiment fired on the crowd.

0:27:230:27:31

Some had got into the building. They left behind some 22 men dead.

0:27:310:27:36

They came demanding the Charter, the right to vote.

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-They triumphed in the end.

-Yes, five or six points are now the law of our country, in terms of voting.

0:27:410:27:48

-What is the significance of this silver piece?

-This is a testimonial plate to the Mayor of Newport,

0:27:480:27:56

Sir Thomas Phillips. He became SIR Thomas Phillips after the event.

0:27:560:28:01

He had been there on the night with the 45th Regiment and had suffered wounds. A very brave, heroic stand.

0:28:010:28:09

-How did it come into your keeping?

-In 1982,

0:28:090:28:12

a gentleman in Essex was looking for a suitable-sized plate to weld into the bottom of his car.

0:28:120:28:20

He found this, didn't realise it was silver until he got it home.

0:28:200:28:24

He got a jeweller friend to clean it. Realising it had something to do with Newport he contacted the mayor,

0:28:240:28:31

-and the museum bought it from him.

-The circle is complete.

-Yes.

0:28:310:28:36

-This is a real mystery object. Do you know what it is?

-I don't.

-I'm not sure that

-I

-know.

0:28:360:28:43

-No ideas?

-None at all.

-Well, I've asked around a bit.

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We came up with a few ideas, but they're not definitive by any means.

0:28:480:28:53

As to where it was made, I think the general feeling is it's probably 19th century, a complete one-off.

0:28:530:29:00

My feeling is it may be Dutch,

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although another person came up with the idea it might be Iberian,

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because of these curious animals, like ibex, animals you might find in the Pyrenees.

0:29:090:29:16

Now, what is it? There are two spouts here.

0:29:160:29:21

They follow down here, so liquid would come out of the two mouths here of the animals.

0:29:220:29:29

But then you pour it out onto what?

0:29:290:29:31

Another idea - possibly a good contender - is that it was a lamp.

0:29:310:29:36

So you put... So the lamp fuel goes in here.

0:29:360:29:41

The taper would go through into the oil,

0:29:410:29:46

come out there and just come to the end of the mouth here and that would flame up,

0:29:460:29:52

and so this would be a reflector, like old students' lamps of the 19th century.

0:29:520:29:58

If anybody sees this and knows what it is,

0:29:580:30:03

-we'd be delighted to know.

-Indeed.

0:30:030:30:06

Three Japanese vases - where did you get them from?

0:30:110:30:14

-Worcester sale.

-The Worcester sale?

0:30:140:30:17

-As far as I know.

-This is in your family?

-Yes, they're family pieces.

0:30:170:30:22

-Japanese vases sold at a Worcester Porcelain Works sale?

-As far as I know.

-OK. Well, let's have a look.

0:30:220:30:31

-On the bottom, we've got that little paper label "Worcester Royal Porcelain Works Museum".

-Yes.

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-And a number.

-Yes.

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The sale that you refer to is almost certainly one that took place about 1905,

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-so you've got to stretch your family back to then.

-Yes.

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But well before that, in the 1870s,

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one of the proprietors of Worcester, Mr Binns, went on a binge.

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He went to exhibitions in Europe, bought all sorts of interesting things that he saw on the stands

0:31:000:31:08

and he brought it back to the Royal Worcester Works.

0:31:080:31:13

Many of these pieces inspired the works that were made at Worcester.

0:31:130:31:18

-So they copied these?

-They copied these.

0:31:180:31:22

For a ceramic historian, these two particular Japanese vases are very interesting.

0:31:220:31:28

If you'd brought those to me without those paper labels, I would have dated them around 1900.

0:31:280:31:35

But we know documentary proof that these were bought well back in the '70s,

0:31:350:31:41

when the craze for all things Japanese was only ten years old.

0:31:410:31:46

Here, he bought a vase with a relief of a large carp diving to the bottom of a pond.

0:31:460:31:53

-I know that that is a design that we would see in Worcester porcelain.

-Right.

0:31:530:32:00

And here is a piece that's been decorated in oxides of iron and other underglazed colours...

0:32:000:32:07

with this beautiful flowering prunus

0:32:070:32:11

in which there sits a bird that's been very, very finely detailed.

0:32:110:32:17

-The potter's even taken trouble to carve out individual petals.

-Yes.

0:32:170:32:22

You can see why Mr Binns was taken with it.

0:32:220:32:26

-Our third Japanese vase isn't Japanese.

-That's my favourite.

0:32:260:32:31

It's, of course, an example of Royal Worcester aesthetic-ware.

0:32:310:32:36

It's imitating a Japanese carving done on a piece of elephant ivory tusk.

0:32:360:32:42

It shows these frogs having rather a lively party

0:32:420:32:47

underneath a floating cloud of Fuji.

0:32:470:32:50

I don't know why they look so happy, because round the back there is a giant snake about to devour them.

0:32:500:32:57

You've got the original inspiration and a good example, in Worcester, of what the designers made of them.

0:32:570:33:07

-Yes.

-This piece has the classic crown mark and a date code for 1886.

0:33:070:33:16

You could buy something like this at auction for around £300 to £500.

0:33:170:33:22

It's got a little chip on it.

0:33:220:33:26

These two Japanese pieces...

0:33:260:33:29

probably are going to be in the region of £500 to £800 each.

0:33:290:33:34

-Not a huge amount in terms of value.

-No, no.

0:33:340:33:39

But hugely valuable in terms of what they can tell us about Japanese porcelain.

0:33:390:33:45

If you have time, one day, I'd love you to go to the Worcester Museum. They would love to see those pieces.

0:33:450:33:53

They'd be able to chase up the original records and perhaps tell you how much Mr Binns paid for them,

0:33:530:34:00

-way back in the 1870s.

-OK. Lovely.

0:34:000:34:03

-You have never used this nut?

-No.

-Have you never wondered what that was for?

-I have wondered.

-Well...

0:34:030:34:11

-If we hang the pendulum on...

-I see.

0:34:110:34:14

And then this nut unscrews from this back plate.

0:34:170:34:22

-Oh, yes.

-OK?

0:34:220:34:24

And then it goes through there and it screws into the centre,

0:34:240:34:29

so you can lock your pendulum rigid.

0:34:290:34:32

Now when you take it home, it's not going to shake around.

0:34:320:34:37

-Thank you.

-There we go. You probably know it's a skeleton clock.

-Yes, I had heard that.

0:34:370:34:44

And it's very, very typically English.

0:34:440:34:48

-Is it?

-About 1860 to 1865.

-Right.

0:34:480:34:53

-We made numerous different models of skeleton clocks.

-Yes.

-This one is better viewed from behind.

0:34:530:35:01

-You can see the architectural plates working a bit better there.

-Yes.

0:35:010:35:07

You've got three feet to each plate. So, six feet altogether.

0:35:070:35:13

The two plates are held in position

0:35:130:35:15

by these rather nice tapering baluster pillars.

0:35:150:35:20

-Is it made of brass?

-It is all brass.

-I see.

0:35:200:35:24

-And never be tempted to clean it.

-That was my next question.

0:35:240:35:29

If you have a crack at it, you'll do damage.

0:35:290:35:34

This has to be taken apart by a clockmaker,

0:35:340:35:38

and every individual part cleaned, polished, put together, and then it will look magnificent.

0:35:380:35:45

-Never be tempted to use any sort of abrasive on it.

-Right.

-Because it will tarnish again.

0:35:450:35:52

Although the front's slightly faded,

0:35:520:35:54

the back has a lovely grain of rosewood.

0:35:540:35:59

-There's also provision here for a glass dome. Do you have that?

-I do have a dome.

0:35:590:36:05

It isn't the correct one and I'm afraid it's cracked, but it does keep the dust off.

0:36:050:36:12

-Worth your while having it cleaned.

-Is it?

-Yes, which wouldn't be too expensive.

0:36:120:36:18

But have you any idea of a figure?

0:36:180:36:21

Well, I had it valued with a house clearance. It belonged to my father.

0:36:210:36:26

-When my mother died, I had someone to come and have a look and it was only valued at £150.

-150?

-Yes.

0:36:260:36:34

Realistically, today, at auction,

0:36:340:36:37

-I have to say "at auction", because it's not in retail condition.

-No.

-It would still make close to £1,000.

0:36:370:36:44

-Really?

-Yes. By the time it had been cleaned and overhauled and polished and you had a nice dome for it,

0:36:440:36:52

-it would be retailing for in excess of £2,000.

-Would it? I am surprised.

0:36:520:36:57

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:36:570:37:00

-I know it's called Britannia And Her Allies.

-Yes.

-It didn't look as big in the saleroom.

0:37:000:37:06

Oh, yes, I know that one! If you look at the bottom left-hand corner,

0:37:060:37:13

it's signed by Charles Butler.

0:37:130:37:16

-I think Charles Ernest Butler.

-Right.

-And it's dated 1920 which is interesting in itself,

0:37:160:37:23

because according to dictionaries on Victorian and Edwardian artists,

0:37:230:37:28

we have no idea about when he died, and they've got him perhaps painting around 1918

0:37:280:37:34

and don't know of anything after that date, so it seems to me a very late work.

0:37:340:37:41

It seems to me as if it's painted as a sort of memorial in some town hall

0:37:410:37:46

-to celebrate the end of WWI and the victory of the Allies and the Commonwealth over the Germans.

-Yes.

0:37:460:37:54

-So we have the central figure of Britannia and we have the Australian soldier here.

-Yeah.

0:37:540:38:03

-I assume the Canadian here?

-Probably, yes.

-And the Indian here,

0:38:030:38:07

an absolutely wonderful portrait.

0:38:070:38:09

And we have our other allies - America...

0:38:090:38:14

France... There's two more, possibly Italy here and Portugal there.

0:38:140:38:19

And here we have the lion of the Commonwealth. It's fantastic!

0:38:200:38:25

And there's somebody grieving at the bottom.

0:38:250:38:31

I suppose it's not surprising after the millions that were killed in WWI.

0:38:310:38:37

-In the distance, we have the Germans fleeing the battlefield...

-Yes.

0:38:370:38:42

..after four years of bitter warfare.

0:38:420:38:45

Interesting to see, they're wearing this old-fashioned helmet -

0:38:450:38:50

propaganda for the English to depict them always with this spiked helmet.

0:38:500:38:55

-And you can just make out the Zeppelin here.

-Yes.

0:38:550:39:00

And the dreadnoughts on the right.

0:39:000:39:04

It's wonderful. It could do with a clean.

0:39:040:39:08

-You're right.

-It's quite dirty, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:39:080:39:11

-You were surprised under the lights how much more detail appeared.

-Yes.

0:39:110:39:16

-Can I ask what you paid for it?

-£500.

0:39:160:39:20

It's probably not worth that now because it's so big and so dirty.

0:39:200:39:25

No, something like this, today, would be worth...

0:39:250:39:29

-I think at least £10,000.

-You...you don't!

0:39:290:39:34

I think it invokes a whole age.

0:39:340:39:36

-I think there are museums and institutions that would want this picture.

-Right.

0:39:360:39:42

-Fantastic. Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:39:420:39:45

-My father had a large collection of 60 to 70 pieces like that.

-Did he really?

-Yes.

0:39:470:39:53

-And he built it up himself?

-Yes, and when he died, my mother had them.

0:39:530:39:58

She left instructions in her will that they were to be divided between all the children and grandchildren.

0:39:580:40:06

-No!

-Yes. They're spread all over.

-How extraordinary!

-Yes.

0:40:060:40:10

-So how many have you got?

-Those.

-That's your lot.

-Everyone got eight. The numbers refer to the probate.

0:40:100:40:17

-Right.

-We've had them valued and they put stickers on them

0:40:170:40:21

-so that we knew which was which.

-How long ago was probate?

-'83.

-Was it divided for you or did you pick?

0:40:210:40:29

No, they were all wrapped up in tissue paper and we took it in turns to take one.

0:40:290:40:35

-Wrapped?

-Wrapped.

-So you didn't know what you were getting?

-No.

-Really?!

0:40:350:40:41

-Do you reckon you did well?

-Some of them are unsigned and are not very valuable

0:40:410:40:47

and some of them were very valuable, so we did a bit of juggling so that we all had roughly the same value.

0:40:470:40:54

Well, the majority of them here are of 19th-century date.

0:40:540:40:59

Strictly speaking, they've moved away from being netsuke

0:40:590:41:04

to being Okimono, decorative groups for the Western market.

0:41:040:41:08

The ivory carvers had to do something when the netsuke went out of fashion,

0:41:080:41:14

and so they made these things for the Western market.

0:41:140:41:19

-And the majority of the pieces here are in the region of £100 to £300.

-Yes.

0:41:190:41:25

-But there's one star.

-I always understood that the water buffalo was the most valuable one.

0:41:250:41:32

-This one?

-Yes.

-You're right. This is the most wonderful little carving.

0:41:320:41:38

This really shows the skill of the Japanese netsuke carver.

0:41:380:41:43

It's fantastically well carved.

0:41:430:41:46

It's not got the power perhaps of the earliest ones,

0:41:460:41:51

but the way he's carved the backbone so that the vertebrae show...

0:41:510:41:57

the way the ribs show,

0:41:570:41:59

the sensitive carving of the hair on its back,

0:41:590:42:05

the clever way this rope drapes round it,

0:42:050:42:09

absolutely brilliant!

0:42:090:42:12

And typically, there's as much going on on the underside as on the top.

0:42:120:42:17

And it's signed here Tomatada.

0:42:170:42:20

Tomatada is one of the great names to reckon with in netsuke carving.

0:42:200:42:25

But there are a whole string of Tomatadas - One to Six, I think!

0:42:250:42:30

And this is certainly not the great master himself, Tomatada the First.

0:42:300:42:35

It's somewhere down the line, but it's a fabulous bit of work.

0:42:350:42:40

I really think it's a star.

0:42:400:42:44

It's one of the nicest netsukes I've ever seen on the Roadshow.

0:42:440:42:49

-You need to insure it... I think you need to put £5,000 on it.

-Gosh.

0:42:490:42:54

You were right, it's the star.

0:42:540:42:57

-The reason I like it is because it's an ox and I was born in the year of the ox.

-Oh, that's brilliant!

0:42:570:43:04

Oh, perfect! You must hang on to that.

0:43:040:43:08

It's time to say thank you to the people of Newport for bringing us in their personal treasures.

0:43:080:43:15

My eye was particularly caught by those costumes from the 1920s. Did they ever really go out of fashion?

0:43:150:43:23

Until next week, nos da, and goodbye.

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