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This week, the Antiques Roadshow has come to the Fens, in Cambridgeshire

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and to the busy market town of Wisbech, on the River Nene.

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And in the local museum, a special treasure...

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The unique atmosphere of the Fenlands is captured in the original manuscript

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of Great Expectations by Charles Dickens.

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"The marshes were just a long, black horizontal line then, as I stopped to look after him,

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"and the river was just another horizontal line, not nearly so broad nor yet so black,

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"and the sky was just a row of long angry red lines and dense black lines, intermixed.

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"But except for these things and the shudder of the dying day in every blade of grass,

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"there was no break in the bleak stillness of the marshes."

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Wisbech rose from the Fenlands to become a flourishing community -

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its South and North Brink making two of the finest Georgian streets in England.

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And this is Peckover House, the finest property in Wisbech.

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Peckover has a Dickensian ring to it, but the house was built in 1722.

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The Peckovers were a Quaker banking family.

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The piece de resistance in the drawing room is this carved pine Rococo decoration over the mirror.

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One lady of the house, anticipating the craze for makeovers,

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told her husband that she wanted the whole room redecorated.

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He, being a cautious banker, said no, so she got the money from her daddy - interest free.

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In 1948, Peckover House was presented to the National Trust,

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and the garden was the scene of a poignant event, as many contents of the house were put up for sale.

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Some items were bought by local people. Will any of those pieces re-emerge at today's Roadshow?

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Only one way to find out... Let's join our experts at the Hudson Leisure Centre.

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-His nickname is Cue Come.

-Cue Come?

-Cue Come.

-Why Cue Come?

-Well...

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my grandfather used to sing a little song that ended "look who's coming", and he was called Cue Come from that.

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-Oh, I see.

-But I can't remember the song.

-How old was your grandfather?

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Quite old, about 80, 90. It's been in the family for 53 years, because when my mother met her husband,

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he used to sit on the television.

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-So he's been on television already?

-Exactly!

-Right.

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-He's in reasonably good condition.

-He's not too bad and he's been to the States and back.

-He's got a chip.

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-Oh, yes. You don't know where he's made?

-I don't.

-Any marks?

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No, but I wondered whether his painting was a Satsuma

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-because of the gold and the density of the painting.

-Let's see. You're right,

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there's a very strong Oriental feel.

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You've got pearls, scattered flowers, treasure objects -

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all the things that you find in Chinese and Japanese art -

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denoting plenty, happiness, joy, abundance. Has he brought you those things?

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-Absolutely.

-You look as though he has.

-I look at him every day and I feel happy.

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-Oh, that's great, wonderful.

-Yes.

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-Well, I'm afraid we aren't going to find the mark.

-No.

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These are all firing problems. There's no potter's mark anywhere,

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and I have looked quite closely on his coat, and there are no marks there, so how do we go about it?

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Well, we look at the raw material.

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The raw material is this chalky-coloured, slightly straw-coloured pottery.

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It's an earthenware. And that's what it looks like without the glaze.

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-Right.

-They then put the glaze on.

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If you look very, very closely at that glaze, what do you see?

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-Lots of tiny cracks.

-That's right, like a sort of crazy-paving effect, isn't it?

-Yes.

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Well, that is the characteristic of what we call Satsuma-ware.

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So you're right, it's Japanese. Satsuma-ware is a generic term.

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There are lots of kilns, not just in the Satsuma area but all over Japan.

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Made some time around the year 1900-1910, maybe,

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and beautifully modelled. His toes -

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beautiful, aren't they? Little wrinkles.

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-And the little podgy fists.

-Yes.

-He's well fed, and chubby cheeks...

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I love the way his coconut hairdo is actually modelled in the clay -

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they allowed for that, so you got the sense of the bulk of his hairdo.

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The whole idea of a little boy is something which, not only in Japanese, but in Chinese culture,

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-denotes happiness and abundance.

-Right.

-So he is a good-luck token in his own right.

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I haven't ever seen a Satsuma figure of this size,

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or of this particular model, so he is unusual.

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If you had to replace him, you'd probably have to pay somewhere

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in the region of £3,000 to £5,000.

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Have to get him insured!

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He IS a good-luck charm.

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I've recently been given them by my aunt, only about two weeks ago.

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-Quite a gift!

-She said she would never wear them again. She said, "I think you ought to have those, dear."

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Lovely. When she gave it to you, did you think this was a bracelet?

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-Yes.

-And would you be surprised if I told you that it wasn't?

-I would, yes.

-Well, it isn't,

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It's a necklace. If you think about the word "necklace",

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it's neck lace, quite literally.

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-It was a choker necklace?

-Yes, but all neck laces were attached to a lace, a bootlace,

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-or a piece of ribbon.

-Yes.

-Now this object is really seriously old -

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-1740 to 1760.

-Goodness.

-Good heavens.

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This is English work, it's distinctive because it's very flat

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and the garnets have been foiled at the back in closed settings. It really comes off the neck

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-of a lady who might have been painted by Gainsborough.

-Wonderful.

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You can find such jewellery in those paintings. A miracle it's survived.

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It has survived because it's been shortened and that's a shame, I have to say.

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Yes, I did think that as a bracelet

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-it didn't fit snugly on your wrist because it was a little bit stiff.

-That's right.

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These were made by designers who wanted them to work in a specific way. When jewellery is altered,

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it's always a mistake. It's a bit like old buildings with extensions -

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it just ruins them. Most jewellery has been interfered with

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at some stage, and this has. One wouldn't expect much else from 1750.

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Fascinating. What about this one?

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-Here is a neck lace in more conventional form.

-Yes.

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The lace has fallen away and we're relying on a box-and-tongue fitting because it's early 19th century.

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This is the type of jewellery I think of as Jane Austen jewellery -

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it's contemporary with her. Interestingly enough,

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this necklace is not only complete, but it's been added to. Which piece?

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-This little piece on the end?

-Yeah, yeah, that is an earring...

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-Oh!

-Oh, an earring.

-And it's better removed, to be perfectly honest.

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Had this necklace been in its original condition, it would probably have been worth...

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-between £5,000 and £7,500.

-Good heavens!

-But it isn't,

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so that's a bit of a blow. With this garnet replaced, which is very easy, you've got to reckon...

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£2,000, just because it's a wonderful, wonderful survival.

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This one here - you'd say less garnets, so it must be worth less.

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But it is worth the same because it is in its original condition

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when you've taken off the earring. And this is not.

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-Will you get to wear them too?

-I don't think so!

-You don't know!

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I think you will, I do, honestly.

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-It was a legacy to me from my maternal grandmother.

-Right.

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-How old were you when you got it?

-Very young.

-Very, very young?

-Yes, and I wasn't impressed then

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-because I thought what use is a mirror when you can't see in it?

-Exactly,

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but I think that's what's nice about it.

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-It's not a great mirror, but it is a nice old plate.

-Yes.

-It's not just the fact that it's very foxed,

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so that the foiling on the back is coming off, making it look spotted,

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but if you put a point on it...

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you can measure the distance between the point and its reflection...

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-Oh, yes.

-..you halve that visually, and that's how thick the glass is.

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-It's a thin glass, so this is almost certainly the original plate.

-Yes.

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That's important because not only is it nice to have the original plate,

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with a soft, albeit spotted image,

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but modern plates are much thicker, and if you put a thicker plate into this, it adds to the weight,

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which gives you problems, as these mirrors are very weak here and here.

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-Yes, it looks as if it's been repaired there.

-Yes, you've had a break there and there.

-Yes.

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Serpentine shape and this lovely shield-shape mirror -

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absolutely typical of the 1780s, possibly 1790s. So late 18th C.

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The wood is mahogany, but the cross-banding

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looks as though it should be tulip wood,

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which, when new, would have been a variegated pink, yellow and red,

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like a variegated tulip.

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So the colouring would have been rather different.

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One thing about all these pieces is that I've never yet seen one where the drawers fit properly.

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The drawers are all slightly proud. The reason is that, over time,

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-the carcass has shrunk.

-Oh, I see.

-The grain of the wood runs this way

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and it's shrunk this way, but the drawers have not shrunk in the same direction and so they stand proud.

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-Oh!

-Put that back in, and it doesn't go in all the way.

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-No.

-Now, when that was new, they would have been flush.

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So it's a nice sign of age, that.

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It might benefit from a bit of cleaning up,

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but it's in pretty original condition. The feet, drawers and knobs are original,

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-the ivory discs here, the roundels here...

-Would those clean up?

-Those would clean up perfectly well.

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-I rather like them as they are, though.

-Yes, yes.

-All in all, it's a very pretty piece.

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I would have expected, with a bit of work, a bit of cleaning up,

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perhaps one or two of these replaced veneers repaired better,

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I would expect this to be...selling for about £1,800, maybe £2,000.

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-I think that's the sort of insurance value you should put on it.

-Yes.

-Very nice.

-Thank you.

-Thank YOU.

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-It's been in the family certainly since the 1930s.

-It's been well used.

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-It's been beside the fire ever since I can remember. Been a log box.

-Oh, right.

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Originally, it would have been made to hold papers in, certainly not logs, but that's a good use for it.

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-It's made of hide.

-Yes.

-I think, possibly, cow or pony hide.

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It's decorated with these squares of fabled beasts

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-and also the double-headed eagle.

-A double-headed eagle, is it? Ah.

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So I think it's definitely Continental,

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-possibly German or Austrian.

-Oh...

-And if we look at the mounts at the back here, the iron mounts,

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that is one indication of age - it probably dates from the late 18th C.

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-So I'd think, perhaps, 1780, 1790.

-Wow!

-I think this piece is probably a later replacement.

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-Yes.

-Value - as a novelty fun item it might fetch perhaps £500 to £700.

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It will stay by the fire! Thank you very much.

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That is just after I went into the army, training at Warminster.

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-How long were you in the army before you were captured?

-I went out in about late 1940 and then we went up,

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and then we went up the desert to Sidi Barani in the early part of the war and then we were withdrawn

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and sent over to Greece in the April, and I was captured about the end of April

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along with the rest of... There were 120 taken prisoner

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and the balance of the 600 men in the 3rd Battalion Tanks

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were all killed or drowned in the sinking of the boats as they were leaving for Crete.

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-How long were you a prisoner?

-I was a prisoner for four and a half years.

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So here we have a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf - My Struggle - because it's in English. How did you get it?

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It was when I went into the men's stalag. I think I bought it

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with some money off somebody in the stalag, and I've kept it ever since, up to the present day.

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-Yes, POW number...?

-1250.

-1250, just checking. And what was your army number?

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My army number was 7909120, Royal Tank Regiment.

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-A short number because you were an old soldier. You were a good-looking bloke.

-Thank you!

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-This really is the most unspeakably smart dress. Isn't it wonderful?

-It is.

-Who wore it?

-My wife,

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-and before her, her mother-in-law.

-What a family treasure.

-Yes, indeed.

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-Looks like the Odeon Cinema, doesn't it?

-Yes. That's what dates it.

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Yes. Very Deco, very chic.

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-I think you ought to insure it for somewhere round about £300.

-Really?

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Goodness me, I would never have thought that much, but nice to know.

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-I don't think it will go out of the family, though.

-No, I wouldn't let it go if it was mine.

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Well, let's have a look.

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I don't believe it! It was painted white?

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-It was emulsioned.

-Did you know what you were buying?

-Not until I saw it in the distance.

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-Yes.

-And the size of the vase is what I liked.

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-Can I ask you the princely sum that you paid for this?

-A pound.

-A pound.

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And he lifted it and gave it to me, and I turned it up, like that, to have a look...

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-And you saw the name.

-Clarice Cliff.

-And you saw the name Clarice Cliff.

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-So what did you strip it with?

-Soap and water. It was just emulsion.

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You did all right for a pound because this is called a lotus jug.

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Gay Day is the pattern, in case you wondered. If I was to say the value...

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is somewhere between £600 to £800...

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You couldn't tell me where this car boot sale is, could you?

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I think we'll hazard a guess...

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a terrier, possibly a wire fox terrier?

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-What do you think?

-I'm not very good on dogs, I'm afraid. We call him Arthur at home because...

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Arthur Wardle - the signature here - is one of the best artists

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working at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century.

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He painted dogs with such vitality and personality

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that he's almost ready to spring right out of the painting,

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and I'm sure that's why people love his work.

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If you look at the quite detailed and rather heavy impasto -

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the build-up of paint on the dog, in contrast with the background -

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what it actually does is, it throws the head and the portrait of the dog forward,

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-giving him that extra kind of personality and the poignancy.

-He looks like he's just jumped up,

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like someone has called to him. He looks so real,

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the way he stands forward there.

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-Now, we must consider the value for Arthur - is that his name?

-Yes.

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-Why Arthur?

-Because of the artist's name.

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Oh, I see! I'm sorry I didn't get that!

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-I thought there was some other family connection.

-No, no.

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But coming back to the price,

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I think, probably, the value is in the region of £4,000 to £6,000.

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-Thank you. He's always been one of the family, really.

-Yes.

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-Where is it from?

-I bought it from a fete.

-How much did you pay?

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-Two shillings.

-Two shillings!

-Yes.

-Very good! Do you know anything about it?

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-I just know that it's a piece of Martin ware.

-Right.

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I was told that it was a tobacco jar.

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This is a popular misconception that they're tobacco jars.

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They have this detachable head which revolves,

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and you can change the expression. But can you imagine a man

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trying to get tobacco out?

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It wouldn't fulfil that function at all.

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And tobacco must be kept pressed,

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so you need a weight and it must be airtight.

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Well, no way is that airtight. So they were never tobacco jars,

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they were just amusing figures whose expression you could change.

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They were made by a man called Robert Wallace Martin,

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who was the elder of four brothers and they had a kiln.

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The three brothers worked there. Robert Wallace modelled these, Robert Fraser threw the pots,

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Edwin did the small pots and the decoration,

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and then Charles ran the shop in the city.

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They were the first true studio potters

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who were enjoying clay just for the fun of it, really.

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I joined one of the major auction houses as a porter in the mid-60s,

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and I hated it, I couldn't STAND ceramics.

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Why would anybody spend £10 on a boring dinner plate? To me it didn't make any sense at all.

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Then, one day, one of these came in,

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a Martin Brothers owl, and I thought, "Yeah, I can see the fun the person had out of making this,

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"it's a joy."

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-And suddenly I was converted, and I've been hooked on Martin ware ever since.

-Ah.

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And, indeed, ceramics generally.

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The Martins always fully mark their pieces, and here we've got

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RW Martin and Brothers...

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London - that's where they had the shop - and Southall. The date we've got on here is 29.3.1911,

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and because the head was separate,

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they should match up with the same mark and date on the base there,

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and yours does marry up.

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Sometimes the dates are different and people aren't so keen on them.

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This one's got a bit of damage to it, a little chip, not too serious,

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but even so, we're looking at your 10p

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-turning into about £3,000 to £5,000.

-Gosh, I can't believe it!

-Well done!

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Oh, that's marvellous, isn't it?

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I was hoping to find a map of Cambridgeshire. What happened to it?

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Originally, we understood there to be 3 rolls of maps, but when my father moved from Kent to Lincolnshire,

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-about 13 years ago, one disappeared in transit.

-That's a shame.

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-But they were in scruffy condition?

-Yes, they're in terrible condition.

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It's a a worry opening it up. But the great thing about these Greenwood maps

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is that it's all there. Greenwood did a wonderful atlas which he surveyed here,

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made in the years 1818 and 1819,

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and then subsequently corrected to the present period

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and published in 1830, so this is the 1830 edition.

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Each county was done in fantastic detail with hand-coloured plates,

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and each with a lovely vignette, as you can see. This is Staffordshire,

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which is nowhere near here, but it's just a nice example, this.

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This particular one is in really nice condition.

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Of course, the real problem

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-is that you've lost half or a third of the counties.

-Yes.

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Try and stop them being rolled up like this, because each time you unroll it, they're falling apart.

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Oh, this is my father - he kept them like that, rolled up in the bottom of the wardrobe.

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Well, that's no bad thing because it keeps them out of the light,

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so they haven't faded at all, they're still as bright as the day they were painted, which is nice.

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-They've got some rather dog-eared maps amongst them.

-Yes.

-But a single good county like this,

0:21:590:22:06

in this sort of condition, is worth, perhaps, £200-£250 for a single county.

0:22:060:22:12

Now, I'm not very good at sums,

0:22:120:22:15

but you've got about £2,500-£3,000 worth of county maps here,

0:22:150:22:19

-even in this scruffy condition.

-Good gracious!

-Now please look after them.

0:22:190:22:25

It's as light as a feather, this ring. Made of hair, you knew that?

0:22:250:22:31

-Yes.

-It's interesting to me because it's an extraordinary survival.

0:22:310:22:36

Hair is one of the things that can be taken from a human being

0:22:360:22:41

that never perishes, so since ancient times, it's been used in jewellery.

0:22:410:22:46

This is jewellery without a piece of gold or a gemstone in sight,

0:22:460:22:51

and we can see that there are two types of hair, if not three, at work here, showing the design,

0:22:510:22:59

-and the name "Charles" is clearly visible.

-Yes.

0:22:590:23:03

As we turn the ring round, we'll see that Charles' hair appears here,

0:23:030:23:08

but it's kept safe by the use of black horsehair.

0:23:080:23:12

-Oh.

-Now this helps me date this ring, it's very old indeed, 1760. We have to consider the possibility

0:23:120:23:18

that Charles had died and this is a mourning ring.

0:23:180:23:22

They're astonishingly rare. They survive in some museum collections,

0:23:220:23:28

but the temptation by children to wear them and ruin them, is so great

0:23:280:23:32

they simply don't come down to us, so it's rather exciting.

0:23:320:23:36

-And to be excited by a ring without any precious material is rather odd.

-It is, yes.

-Where did you find it?

0:23:360:23:42

-I bought it at auction. Nobody else was interested - I bid £1 and got it.

-Wonderful.

0:23:420:23:48

-I think, possibly it's worth 300 times the price you paid.

-Wow!

0:23:480:23:54

-£300.

-I knew it was worth more than £1, but £300 I didn't expect.

-No.

0:23:550:24:00

It's wonderful. I rarely see them - great joy to see it. Thank you.

0:24:000:24:06

How long have you been collecting?

0:24:060:24:09

Since 1992, after a holiday in Egypt.

0:24:090:24:12

-How many pieces have you collected?

-12 pieces I've managed to find.

-Twelve, right.

0:24:120:24:18

-So we've got almost your entire collection on the table.

-It's difficult finding the pots.

-I bet.

0:24:180:24:24

I've gone to antique fairs, auctions, and I've bought every one I've seen.

0:24:240:24:28

-It's a one-man market.

-Well...

-And you're it! But it's not Egyptian.

0:24:280:24:33

-No.

-It's Doulton, good old English factory.

0:24:330:24:37

You've got an earthenware Doulton plate which shows a god receiving the Pharaoh with his attendants.

0:24:370:24:44

That would have been done, just before World War I,

0:24:440:24:47

but then Carnarvon went into the tomb of Tutankhamen in the 1920s - '21 or '22?

0:24:470:24:54

November 1922.

0:24:540:24:56

'22, brilliant. And Doulton carried on using a pattern that they'd used before World War I,

0:24:560:25:04

but they just added Tutankhamen's treasures, Luxor.

0:25:040:25:08

So it was a piece of thrifty work by the Doulton factory.

0:25:080:25:12

But my favourite piece of all is this one. It looks like a sort of Egyptian Antiques Roadshow,

0:25:120:25:19

with these characters walking along with their little pottery pieces,

0:25:190:25:24

and there he is, sitting there, Henry Sandon examining the pot.

0:25:240:25:29

That's my favourite, it's gorgeous.

0:25:290:25:32

-So value... My guess is, the average price you'll have paid for these is about £50, £60.

-Yes.

0:25:320:25:39

Here, you've got about, what, £500, £600, it's cost you?

0:25:390:25:44

But to insure it, well, you can add another 100% on that

0:25:440:25:48

in terms of trying to put a collection like this together again today.

0:25:480:25:54

-We found two of these helmets in the attic of our house.

-Two?

-Yes.

0:25:590:26:05

My son is very interested in militaria and he asked me to bring them today to find out,

0:26:050:26:12

-you know, what we could, about them.

-This is a very rare helmet.

0:26:120:26:16

If it was in perfect condition, it would be so terribly desirable,

0:26:160:26:22

that I can't begin to tell you, you know, just how desirable it would be to collectors.

0:26:220:26:28

The date is around 1793 to 1796.

0:26:280:26:33

It's called a Tarlatan helmet.

0:26:330:26:36

It's named after Bannister Tarlatan, who was a British officer in the American Revolutionary War.

0:26:360:26:43

He designed the helmet for himself, adopted by the British Light Cavalry

0:26:430:26:47

and worn throughout the Napoleonic wars.

0:26:470:26:52

It should have a beautiful bearskin crest over the top.

0:26:520:26:56

This is leopard skin. Now, if you know what a leopard looks like,

0:26:560:27:00

it's a very nice ginger, with black spots, you can see a bit here,

0:27:000:27:05

but it must have looked magnificent when it was as it should be.

0:27:050:27:11

They call this part the turban,

0:27:110:27:14

and this is the name of the regiment - the Louth Yeomanry.

0:27:140:27:18

This helmet, although it's in such relic condition,

0:27:180:27:22

-is worth £2,000.

-Really?

0:27:220:27:26

Really. If it was as it should be, it's worth £8,000.

0:27:260:27:33

So Lilian Ream was the town photographer, and this is an archive of her pictures. What's this one?

0:27:340:27:40

Well, this is a photograph of Lilian Ream and her staff taken in 1929.

0:27:400:27:45

Her studio started in 1909 and ran on to 1971.

0:27:450:27:49

-Was she unique then, a woman doing this kind of work?

-I wouldn't say unique, but certainly unusual,

0:27:490:27:56

outside big cities, to set up her own studio.

0:27:560:28:00

-And who's this?

-This is Peter Scott.

-So it is.

0:28:000:28:03

He lived in the lighthouse at Sutton Bridge.

0:28:030:28:07

-And who's this couple?

-They are a well-known family in the area.

0:28:070:28:12

-Certainly local characters.

-Wonderful faces.

0:28:120:28:17

When I look at the marks underneath it,

0:28:170:28:21

they are the marks of Henry Chawner who made it in 1788.

0:28:210:28:25

Henry Chawner was quite a famous family who specialised in teapots and teawares and so on.

0:28:250:28:31

-Now, in 1788, that would have been absolutely plain.

-Oh, right.

0:28:310:28:37

-So my first thoughts, when I saw it, it's Victorian, which it is.

-Right.

0:28:370:28:41

-But underneath it tells me it's Georgian.

-Oh, right.

0:28:410:28:45

This after-chasing and embellishment was done in the 19th century,

0:28:450:28:50

-but it's halved its value.

-Right.

-That's the bad news.

-Right.

0:28:500:28:55

So if I said to you, today you'd possibly get about £600 for it, is that good news or not?

0:28:550:29:01

Oh, yes, I thought it was only worth about £100, so...

0:29:010:29:04

Oh, well, at least you've got that.

0:29:040:29:07

-It's always been called the lantern clock.

-That's the correct term.

0:29:070:29:13

So many people call them Cromwellian clocks or sheep's-head clocks,

0:29:130:29:17

but this is a proper lantern clock.

0:29:170:29:20

-It's not quite what it seems to be.

-Oh.

-No, don't worry about it, I'm not running it down at all.

0:29:200:29:26

One would have expected, if this had been original,

0:29:260:29:31

to have basically hung on a wall bracket, or hung on the wall with a hoop and spurs

0:29:310:29:38

-with probably a long pendulum...

-Yes.

-..and a weight.

0:29:380:29:43

And it doesn't have that because it winds up here through the dial -

0:29:430:29:48

-two winding squares. I see you've brought this key.

-Yes.

-Do you wind it regularly?

0:29:480:29:53

-Every morning.

-Every morning?

-Yes.

0:29:530:29:56

-But not fully because we don't know how far we dare turn the key.

-Right.

0:29:560:30:03

So, to be on the safe side, we do it a little bit every morning.

0:30:030:30:07

Well, that's very interesting too!

0:30:070:30:09

Let's open the clock and see what we can actually tell you about it.

0:30:090:30:15

It's got side doors as all lantern clocks have,

0:30:150:30:18

and there is a nice-quality Victorian two-train fusee movement.

0:30:180:30:23

-That tells you it's a much longer duration than 30 hours.

-Ah.

0:30:230:30:28

You can quite happily wind this clock up - both the striking and the going trains - for 8-day duration.

0:30:280:30:35

With this sort of mechanism there is a physical lock, a fusee stop,

0:30:350:30:40

-and you cannot overwind it.

-Right, thank you.

-OK, a clock like this,

0:30:400:30:45

you should be able to get to within a few seconds a week

0:30:450:30:49

if it's kept in a constant temperature.

0:30:490:30:52

The original, of course, would not perhaps have been quite as accurate, depending on the sort of escapement.

0:30:520:30:58

A nice-quality movement and absolutely typically Victorian.

0:30:580:31:04

-I would suggest 1860 to 1870 on this movement.

-Oh.

0:31:040:31:09

Now, stylistically, the case is significantly earlier,

0:31:090:31:14

-it's 200 years earlier in style.

-Really?

0:31:140:31:17

This is where we come to the funny bit, because so many lantern clocks were butchered in Victorian times.

0:31:170:31:25

They put in these movements because it was much easier to have it sitting on a table or on a shelf

0:31:250:31:31

than to have it hanging on a wall where children would have disturbed the pendulum and the weights.

0:31:310:31:37

And you often see evidence of where they've been altered, because underneath you still have the holes

0:31:370:31:44

-where the chains or the ropes came through.

-Right, right.

-But not here.

0:31:440:31:48

Neither this bottom plate or the top plate have any evidence that they've been messed around with,

0:31:480:31:55

so I tend to think that it is a Victorian copy.

0:31:550:31:59

The only thing that slightly changes my mind is that the dial is... Oops.

0:31:590:32:06

..the dial is so very well engraved

0:32:060:32:09

and the winding squares have been cut into the engraving,

0:32:090:32:13

-so maybe they used this dial plate off an earlier clock.

-Mmm.

0:32:130:32:17

So, in my opinion, we have a Victorian copy of a period clock.

0:32:170:32:22

Because it's a Victorian copy, we're not talking enormous sums of money,

0:32:220:32:26

but it would fetch, at auction...

0:32:260:32:29

-about £1,500.

-Ooh.

0:32:290:32:32

If it was cleaned and overhauled, it would certainly be over £2,000.

0:32:320:32:38

That's very nice. Thank you very much.

0:32:380:32:42

I haven't seen many sofas which look as good from the back,

0:32:420:32:47

and this is really stunning.

0:32:470:32:49

The back has this wonderful matched veneered panels of walnut,

0:32:490:32:54

and the walnut veneers are carried round the ends, with the bookcases,

0:32:540:32:58

which have shelves on all sides, and on this side, too. It's a really remarkable thing,

0:32:580:33:04

and the whole piece is designed to be seen from any angle. So where did you find it?

0:33:040:33:10

Well, I was a young technician in the air force in '64,

0:33:100:33:14

and we lived near Fakenham and we saw it in an antique shop in Fakenham and the antique dealer

0:33:140:33:21

told us that it was made by Gillows of Lancaster...for one of the houses at Sandringham.

0:33:210:33:27

-And you know it's a Gillows piece?

-Well, there's actually a plate fixed underneath the edge here.

0:33:270:33:34

-We shan't argue with that, then. Made in the 30s?

-Mm.

0:33:340:33:38

It's very much in the Deco style.

0:33:380:33:41

-Unfortunately, we had to put our furniture into storage when we went to North Africa for two years.

-Yes.

0:33:410:33:47

And the storage deteriorated the cover.

0:33:470:33:50

It was in a real jazzy Art-Deco fabric, like streaks of lightning,

0:33:500:33:55

and it smelt a bit when we took it out of storage so we had it recovered and, unfortunately, we picked Dralon.

0:33:550:34:01

You've got to use the thing,

0:34:010:34:04

-and nobody wants to live with a smelly sofa.

-No.

-But certainly a more appropriate fabric...

0:34:040:34:10

-Do you think it would be worth recovering?

-I think it would look sensational if it was well chosen.

0:34:100:34:16

-But what intrigues me is that it was in an antique shop in 1964. It's only 30 years old.

-That's right.

0:34:160:34:23

-And I imagine that in the mid-60s, Deco furniture wasn't terribly fashionable.

-No, no.

0:34:230:34:29

I mean, are you a far-sighted man?

0:34:290:34:32

-It looked almost modern as well as old, you know.

-I like it very much.

0:34:320:34:37

It's very, very stylish and, as you say, it IS modern, it's definitely '30s.

0:34:370:34:43

-Yeah.

-Very typical, but it really could stand being put anywhere,

0:34:430:34:48

at any age. Now, in 1964, how much did you pay for it?

0:34:480:34:52

-Well, people will ridicule us, we only paid £18 for it.

-£18.

-But remember that £18 was two weeks' pay

0:34:520:34:59

for a technician, and that's equivalent to maybe £400 now.

0:34:590:35:03

-This type of furniture is becoming more and more sought after.

-Really?

0:35:030:35:08

Yeah. I mean, it's not yet 100 years old,

0:35:080:35:11

but it's already, in many people's view, an antique, and there is a strong collector's market

0:35:110:35:17

for 30s and Deco-style furniture. If you add to that

0:35:170:35:22

the glorious name of Waring and Gillow, in the right market,

0:35:220:35:27

this is going to be worth at least...

0:35:270:35:32

-£3,500.

-Good Lord.

-So it's not a bad investment.

0:35:320:35:36

-It's an artefact that you keep because you like the look of it.

-Certainly comfortable.

0:35:360:35:42

As far as we know, Great-grandfather bought it. He used to live in London.

0:35:420:35:48

It would have been early part of the century that he moved here, in about 1918, into the Wisbech area.

0:35:480:35:54

Well, it's by Alexander Johnston - we can tell that from the signature.

0:35:540:35:59

-Oh, right.

-And it's also got a date,

0:35:590:36:03

which you can just read - of 1863.

0:36:030:36:07

And on the back it's got a label,

0:36:070:36:10

-and the title of the picture is "The Cotter's Saturday Night".

-Yes.

-Now, a cotter, as I understand it,

0:36:100:36:16

-is a tied peasant, tied to a larger estate.

-Yeah.

-And he has to pay for the cottage he lives in,

0:36:160:36:23

with either labour or money.

0:36:230:36:26

So you might call this man rich in that respect, because you can see,

0:36:260:36:30

-he's got his wife and, it looks like, six strapping children.

-Yes.

0:36:300:36:35

It's wonderful luminous quality about it.

0:36:350:36:39

All...or most of the light is coming from this oil lamp here.

0:36:390:36:44

It reminds me of Continental artists who painted in a luminous way

0:36:440:36:49

because their faces are lit up in this wonderful warm

0:36:490:36:53

and very sensual colouring of reds and yellows.

0:36:530:36:58

It's very important with Victorian paintings to read them like a book,

0:36:580:37:03

-because you can, all the clues are there.

-Yes.

-He's either reading out his accounts,

0:37:030:37:09

which doesn't sound very likely to me - with his wife and children?

0:37:090:37:13

More likely, I think, he's reading the family Bible to them,

0:37:130:37:18

and they're all listening with varying degrees of attention,

0:37:180:37:23

according to their age and inclination. Um...

0:37:230:37:28

it's a very poor environment, the cottage has little in it.

0:37:280:37:31

There's just a single piece of china on the mantelpiece up here.

0:37:310:37:37

The light, and maybe there's another light up here...

0:37:370:37:41

They can't afford light because oil is too expensive.

0:37:410:37:45

The youngest child is much more interested in the moth that is approaching the flame of the lamp,

0:37:450:37:51

but then with that analogy we come back to the father and the Bible.

0:37:510:37:57

The moth is tempted by the flame, so the child is more interested in temptation than the Good Word,

0:37:570:38:03

so you've got moralistic themes here. Very Victorian in that way,

0:38:030:38:09

but also beautifully painted.

0:38:090:38:11

The figure grouping is complex, but works wonderfully

0:38:110:38:15

with these great lines of composition that come back and round to the focus - the father.

0:38:150:38:21

This kind of genre painting is becoming more understood as history,

0:38:210:38:26

rather than something Victorian - yuk!

0:38:260:38:29

-We can look at it with more balanced judgement.

-Yes.

0:38:290:38:34

Now, a value on such a thing. Alexander Johnston was a Scotsman -

0:38:340:38:39

Scottish paintings are quite the vogue at the moment.

0:38:390:38:43

-Um...possibly £20,000 to £30,000.

-Right, yeah.

0:38:430:38:48

And it could well do more.

0:38:480:38:50

We seem to have a full house of all the royal residences. Curiously, locally, we don't have Sandringham.

0:38:510:38:58

-How did you come by this collection?

-It was handed down...

0:38:580:39:03

to my step-grandfather by the chief librarian of Windsor Castle.

0:39:030:39:08

-Was he Mr Woodward?

-That's correct. He was appointed there in 1860,

0:39:080:39:13

and this scrapbook and the invitations were handed down by a member of his family,

0:39:130:39:19

-through down to my family.

-He seems to have been invited to all these,

0:39:190:39:24

so he obviously had a nice life. It's a wonderful picture of life in Victorian England,

0:39:240:39:29

with these grand invitations. But although those are interesting,

0:39:290:39:34

really the main thing is this fantastic album here...

0:39:340:39:39

and, perhaps, it's worth starting almost right at the beginning.

0:39:390:39:44

-This is full of absolutely riveting things, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:39:440:39:49

And while he was at Windsor Castle, he obviously received letters

0:39:490:39:54

and wrote letters on behalf of the Queen and the Royal Family, and rather than chucking them away,

0:39:540:40:00

he obviously kept them, nicely mounted in this album.

0:40:000:40:04

I think one of the nicest things, right at the beginning,

0:40:040:40:08

are these two scribbled notes from Queen Victoria to him in pencil,

0:40:080:40:13

just asking him to... It says "Dear Mr Woodward,

0:40:130:40:18

"send over those drawings," and then it's rather difficult to read which drawings, which is maddening.

0:40:180:40:24

But you can imagine her imperiously saying, "Send over those drawings!" Here it is, "November 17th 1864."

0:40:240:40:31

Here she's asking for a volume of somebody's English history.

0:40:310:40:36

It conjures up a wonderful picture of Queen Victoria sitting in her ivory tower,

0:40:360:40:41

sending for Woodward and all his books. He was obviously a friend of the Royal Family,

0:40:410:40:48

because here you've got this delightful sketch where it says,

0:40:480:40:53

"Princess Louise and Miss Bowyer.

0:40:530:40:56

"In the distance, BB Woodward and Mr Roland Roland."

0:40:560:41:01

-So this is actually Woodward in one of the drawings.

-Yes.

0:41:010:41:05

The album is full of the most extraordinary things

0:41:050:41:09

and, you know, it would take weeks to go through it all.

0:41:090:41:13

You've got a cheque signed by the Duke of Wellington.

0:41:130:41:16

Here you've got...

0:41:160:41:19

a letter from John Ruskin,

0:41:190:41:23

the great man of letters and the arbiter of taste in Victorian times about art.

0:41:230:41:29

Sadly, the contents of the letters isn't wildly exciting,

0:41:290:41:33

but nevertheless, it's still very interesting.

0:41:330:41:38

-There's a limit to what you can say to a librarian, though, isn't there?

-Yes,

0:41:380:41:43

the relationship with these people was a professional relationship,

0:41:430:41:48

in other words, he wasn't writing as a friend,

0:41:480:41:52

-you're quite right, he was probably more instructive or demanding, rather like Queen Victoria.

-Yes.

0:41:520:41:59

And this is extremely rare - Florence Nightingale.

0:41:590:42:03

You don't get Nightingale autographs like this. And so it goes on.

0:42:030:42:09

The whole thing is wonderful. Once again, there's another of the great Victorian figures - Darwin.

0:42:090:42:15

Fantastic. And it would take weeks to go through them all,

0:42:150:42:19

but it's a real treat to see them. It's very difficult -

0:42:190:42:23

until one has a chance to go right through the whole lot - to value it,

0:42:230:42:27

and because they're clipped out and pasted in, the value of some letters has diminished a bit,

0:42:270:42:34

but, with a bit of research,

0:42:340:42:36

it would be worth somewhere between £5,000 and £10,000 for the collection.

0:42:360:42:43

The drawing alone is worth probably £700 or £800.

0:42:430:42:47

So a jolly nice thing to have.

0:42:500:42:53

If every picture tells a story, we've come to the right place today.

0:42:550:43:00

Lilian Ream's photographs of life in Wisbech leave a strong impression of the way it was in the early 1900s.

0:43:000:43:07

What with that and the documents and books of all kinds to pore over, it's been quite an education.

0:43:070:43:13

From Wisbech, until next week, goodbye.

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