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As promised, we return to Sherborne in Dorset

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for a second helping of the delights laid before us last time.

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We might have anticipated such riches from a town with a history

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and tradition of antique shops.

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The museum is home to this splendid Victorian doll's house.

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It's furnished in the style of the 1830s and '40s, though the dolls are thought to be a little earlier.

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It once featured in a sister programme of ours called

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The Antiques Inspectors - does that ring a bell?

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I can't hear a word I'm saying now, so I hope this makes sense.

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That is the world's heaviest peal of eight bells.

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They average a ton apiece and they hang out here at Sherborne Abbey.

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The abbey was consecrated nearly 1,300 years ago.

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Beneath the oldest fan-vaulted ceiling in England, there's a beautiful medieval church interior,

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that was the final resting place of two Saxon kings - Ethelbald and Ethelbert.

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There can't be many places with two famous Ethels!

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From Norman times until the Reformation, the abbey was a Benedictine monastery,

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and part of that great building is now the heart of Sherborne School.

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St Benedict's life was saved by a raven who took the poisoned loaf.

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Oddly enough the collective term for that species is "an unkindness of".

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There was a famous raven here at the school in the early 1900s,

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who was kept as a pet by the boys,

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and he used to destroy hymn books and dive-bomb the headmaster's dog!

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Let's find out what more treasures the magpies of Sherborne have got.

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A lovely "automaton" picture, it's called.

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And we have lots of movement on it. The train going along the back,

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the windmill with the turning sails, and the water wheel down here.

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The essence of this really is amusement and fun.

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Does it amuse you and give you fun?

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It does. And the children who come to my house are fascinated by it.

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I'm sure they're enchanted.

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Well, now, let's just have a look at this in detail.

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Um, there's the - at the back here,

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there's a lovely painted background of a castle and a romantic view.

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The buildings, and so on, are made out of papier-mache and cardboard that has then been painted.

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-If I open this - how's your hand, holding this?

-OK.

-If I open this up,

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I can see there's a maker's mark -

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H Marc. Henri Marc of Paris, who was the maker of the clock movement.

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-And I know that he was working in Paris from 1800.

-Mm.

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Er, there's a nice little musical box down here,

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which is a cylinder musical box.

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That's quite a lot later in date.

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So I think I'm going to put the lid down and we can talk about date and other points.

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The frame is in original condition.

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If we look at the bottom of the frame down here,

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-it's got a lovely sort of distressed look to it.

-Yes, it has.

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And I mean that in a positive way. So many owners would say...

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"It's beginning to look tatty, let's get it re-gilded" or whatever.

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You've held back - thank goodness.

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And what we have is a lovely plaster-gilt frame in good, original condition.

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-So congratulations on not having it restored.

-Thank you.

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-As far as the working mechanism is concerned, these are notoriously temperamental.

-Temperamental, yes.

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It's not surprising when we consider the date, which I'd put at 1860.

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And I'm basing that, um, on the style of the musical box,

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-which was popular in the 1860s-70s.

-Yes.

-So that's where the date...

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That's right, because my mother and aunt played with it

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-and my mother was born in 1891, so it's about...

-Oh, good...

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-so this is a family piece.

-Yes, I inherited it when they died.

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-And did you play with it as a child, too?

-Yes, mm, loved it.

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It is a valuable piece. They're popular with collectors,

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not really in England, but in Europe and the States - they love these.

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So I would have said a value of around £4,000 to, perhaps, £5,000.

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-And, please, keep it as it is.

-Oh, yes...

-Don't be tempted...

-I won't.

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..to restore it because it is in truly good, original condition,

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-and it's just how it ought to be...

-Yes.

-..being 140-odd years old.

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-How long have you been interested in blue and white?

-I suppose the last 40 years.

-Yes.

-40 years.

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-Yes, this is a cider mug.

-Yes.

-It's great. Cider is, they say -

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the great experts say - cider is better from a pottery vessel.

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-So they say.

-You drink a lot of cider?

-Yes, I like my little tipple.

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Oh, jolly nice Staffordshire. Now this is not a cider pot,

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it's a little cream boat or milk boat,

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and transfer printed with a pattern called "fisherman and cormorant".

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-It looks like the Caughley factory, common in Caughley, Shropshire.

-Yes.

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-This one is a Worcester one.

-Is it?

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-At one time this was thought to be the Caughley factory.

-Yeah.

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But I found it in great numbers on the Worcester site, so it's a disguised numeral mark,

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but Worcester through and through.

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-Yeah.

-The handle's been damaged here - have you re-stuck...?

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-No, this is how we've always known it.

-It's been repaired here.

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-It's changing its colour.

-I see.

-So the white is a yellowish colour there, from the repair.

-Yeah.

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So the value wouldn't be very great. I mean, perfect we're looking at...

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-quite a lot of money for a Worcester cream boat.

-Yeah.

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-But with the repair, and damage, it's around about £100.

-Yeah.

-Which is reasonable...

-For that.

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..for a piece of 18th-century blue and white.

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I think it's lovely, but this is the... This, to me, is the...

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-is the super pot - I love it. It's decorated in the Chinese style or the chinoiserie style...

-Right.

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-..with funny little Chinamen doing all sorts of things around it. Right. And masks on the side.

-Yes.

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Which looks like a piece of porcelain, but it isn't.

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One realises instantly, when you see this chip here which shows

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the earthenware body underneath, that it's actually pearlware,

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and made somewhere around about the 1780s - 1785 perhaps.

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In fact, not far removed from the date of the little cream jug, but totally different.

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This is porcelain, this is pearlware, earthenware.

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And the problem is to know quite where it was made.

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-The shape of this is very like a piece of Bristol delftware.

-Delftware, yes.

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-There's a pot in the Bristol Museum which is Bristol delft.

-Yes.

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-Which has got very similar masks on the side, and also decorated in this Chinese-like style.

-Yes.

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-It looks almost brand new.

-Yeah.

-Lovely. How long have you had it?

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Oh, it's just been handed down through the family. A good few years I can remember it, anyway.

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-Yes, where were the family from?

-Um, Somerset.

-Somerset.

-Somerset.

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-Yes, so that's likely that it comes down from Bristol down to the family there.

-Yes, yes.

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-And passed on down the generations to you.

-That's right.

-1785 is a long time to be in one family.

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-Yes.

-It's absolutely beautiful. It's such an important piece

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-that you ought to insure it for £1,500.

-Really? As much as that?

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-I love it very much.

-Lovely.

-Thanks for bringing it in.

-Thank you.

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This is a standard World War II Japanese officer's sword,

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but I want to take this peg out...

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..and have a look at the tang of the sword.

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-Now this is good news.

-Right.

-You see these three holes?

-Yes.

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Now this signifies that it's been mounted possibly two to three times,

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-so that suggests that the blade is very old.

-Right.

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-Could be 2-300 years old.

-As old as that?

-Oh, yes. In World War II mount, so I find this very exciting.

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Now what you must do, you must get some white chalk,

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-and go in all the crevices of this signature.

-Yes.

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-And then clean it off nicely and you put it onto a copying machine - the blade.

-Yes.

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And you have this sort of result.

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Send it to the Metal Department, Victoria & Albert Museum.

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-Yes.

-And they will send you, possibly, this man's working dates.

-Will they really?

-Yes.

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So once you have his working dates, you're halfway there, you know,

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to understand your sword.

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-Now, supposing it was a World War II officer's sword, right?

-Right.

-So you're looking at £2-300.

-Right.

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-But if this turns out to be a winner - a nice early blade...

-Yes.

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-..you could be looking at £2-3,000.

-Really?

-Oh, yes.

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-There you are.

-Thank you very much.

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Can I ask you where you got it?

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Yes, I bought it in 1961, from a well-known antique dealer at that time, called Wolsey.

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-Yes, Bert or Sam Wolsey?

-Sam.

-Absolutely.

-Yes, SW Wolsey.

-Yes.

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Their word on a piece of oak furniture meant total authenticity, and they were right, of course.

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I'm just going to have a look at this because if we tip it back,

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I mean, that is stunning.

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When you see the 19th century put together, it's covered with dirt, and bruising in the wrong places.

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-And here you've got this wonderful, clean patina.

-Yes.

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And almost a crisp look to these edges. And yet you've got these marvellous old iron hinges,

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-but it is a curious thing that the older something looks, the more you have to be careful about it.

-Yes.

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-Because it's done for effect of age. Oak or any timber doesn't go dirty and bashed about like that.

-No, no.

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It remains clean and sharp, and look at the colour on this, this top -

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this wonderful pale goldy colour.

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And then you've got this lovely moulded edge here,

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which gives a date with all the features that we've mentioned -

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late 16th century, sort of 1580-1600.

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Well now...

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..a plain box-type, totally genuine monk's bench -

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-I wonder how much you paid for it?

-I haven't got the receipt, but I paid £175 for it in 1961.

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-1961. We're certainly in the region today of between £10-12,000.

-Really?

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-So just add a few noughts.

-That's fantastic.

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Well, this is gorgeous. Have you had it a long time?

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Yes, quite a long time, since I was 25, which was a long time ago.

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-Well, we shan't ask how long.

-It came from, really a grandmother, great-grandmother,

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-I'm not totally sure before that.

-Right.

-But I think it, it's always been in the family.

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-It's...

-How old do you think it is?

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-That's a very good question and it's actually 18th century.

-Oh, really.

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At the front, it's all set with these old cut diamonds in the way they cut them in the 18th century.

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-Yes.

-But what is the real giveaway, is the back.

-Yes.

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If you look at modern jewellery, you see the stone through the setting.

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Whereas, this is all set in silver with clay settings, and this really stopped being done around 1780.

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-Yes, so that dates it.

-And apart from which, this is very much...

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a style that was very popular - these so-called Maltese crosses

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were very fashionable and probably this originally hung

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on a diamond necklace composed of stones this size.

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Goodness me, I wish I had that.

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Yes, because I don't think this loop is original.

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The setting is a little different and the technique which is a little different. It's a fabulous piece.

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I've been running over what it's worth, because you've got five quite big diamonds here on the ends,

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and the centre, five which I think -

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probably weigh about four carats and there's extra weight in it and it's not directly related,

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but you should insure this for around...

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-£8,000.

-Good heavens!

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-It's lovely.

-How terrifying!

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Simon, you're the headmaster of Sherborne. This must be valuable.

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Well, it is to us, not inherently valuable, but certainly as far as the school's history is concerned.

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Because Edward VI, who you see on his throne up here,

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gave to the school the means by which it could develop into what it is today.

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This document dates from 1550,

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and is, therefore, over 450 years old and it's absolutely as it was at the time -

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with the illuminations up here,

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the original silks and this wonderful wax seal at the bottom.

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And what did this document commit the authors to?

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It set up a structure by which there were to be 20 governors,

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there was to be a headmaster appointed,

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and some lands which had come from the dissolution of the monasteries

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were handed over to the school and the rent helped set it up.

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Did it dictate the subjects to be taught?

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No, it's a practical document of the setting up of the school.

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-What a wonderful document.

-It certainly is.

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-He's a very handsome bear.

-He is.

-In good condition. Does he have a name?

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-Bruno.

-Good, well, every bear deserves a name.

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He's got a fair amount of age, but he is in fantastic condition,

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so can you explain that for me?

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Well, I just look after him.

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-I mean, I haven't had him long - I bought him in auction.

-Did you?

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-What, locally?

-Yeah. In Sherborne.

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-And I give him a good clean up because he smelt.

-They do smell!

-I was told he'd come from an attic...

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-Yes.

-So I cleaned him up and sat him in the sitting room.

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-What did you use to clean him? You didn't wet him, did you?

-Not really.

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I got a damp cloth and give him a rub because he looked a bit black.

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-Doing that takes a lot of the dust out.

-It made him look shiny.

-Yes.

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This mohair, which is what the plush is made of,

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does have a sheen to it when it is shiny. And he really does look new.

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-He's lovely, yeah.

-So where do you think he was made?

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-I thought he was English.

-What made you think that?

-I don't know.

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He does have that English look. You're dead right - well done, you.

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I fell in love with him.

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-The maker of this bear, which is almost certainly Farnell...

-Farnell.

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..Is not so widely known, but you can see by looking at him that the quality is as good as German bears.

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-Good.

-And perhaps what is little known, and it's Farnell's great claim to fame,

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is that Winnie the Pooh is a Farnell bear.

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-Is he? Oh.

-He is, from this period. This bear is dating from the 1920s.

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Now is the question - putting you on the spot - what did you pay for him?

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I paid £210 plus commission.

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-So that came up to, 250-ish?

-Something like that, yes.

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-You had a very good buy.

-Did I?

-I think you did.

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-In the right auction today, you'd be looking at between £700 and £900.

-Really? But I would never sell him.

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This is part of the R100 airship,

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which...my grandfather was a member of the crew.

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-Really?

-Yes, yes.

-So he flew on this?

-Yeah, he flew on this, yeah,

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from Bedford across to Canada and back again in 1930.

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-So this is part of the structure of that airship?

-Yes.

-Incredibly light, isn't it?

-Yes.

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-There were Meccano-like extensions that made up the frame?

-Yes.

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After the accident of the R101,

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they decided to dismantle the R100,

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and obviously because he was a crew member and he was taking part in dismantling it, he kept a piece.

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-They could have souvenirs?

-Yes.

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It's a wonderful story, but there was a straight competition

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between private constructors and the government-sponsored construction.

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-The R101 was the government airship.

-Yes.

-The R100 was built by Vickers, but designed by Barnes Wallis -

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-of the bouncing bomb fame.

-Yes.

-One of the people who worked with him was the novelist Nevil Shute.

-Yes.

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Who was at that point Nevil Shute Norway - an engineer.

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The problem was that the R100,

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was so much a better ship. As you say, it flew across the Atlantic...

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-Yes.

-..Perfectly safely.

-Yes.

-This was the great era when the airship

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was seen to be the luxury flying conveyance of the future.

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We had the German ships developing out of the Zeppelin line,

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but the R100 actually cracked it - Barnes Wallis was a good designer, he got the weight ratios right.

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It was correctly engineered. The R101 was a disaster from day one.

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It didn't fly properly, they chose diesel engines which were too heavy.

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It was unstable, so they extended it and put a new section in the middle.

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And under pressure from the government, its first flight was the proving flight to India,

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with the ministers and politicians on board, because the government had to prove they'd got it right.

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And in October, 1930, in a storm,

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it drove into a field in Beauvais, in Northern France.

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Not only was it the end of the R101, but the end of airships in Britain.

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-So what was he? A crew member.

-He was a rigger.

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A rigger. So he would have known how to twist that to tortion the wires, he would have been adapting it.

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It was very lightweight,

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-but structurally strong and it had to be flexible.

-Yes.

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It would bend and twist in the winds.

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-Yes.

-And, of course, the gasbags were inside,

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held in place by the rigid but very light framework.

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-You've got this as a souvenir.

-Yes.

-You knew him when you were a child?

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-I knew my grandfather, yeah, but not for many years.

-Did he talk about this?

-No, because I was young,

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but my father did. He was very proud that his father flew...

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-With that connection.

-And he flew across to Canada.

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Yes, well that must have been an extraordinary experience.

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-It was a pioneering voyage.

-Yes.

-They must have thought they were mapping out the future.

-Yes.

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-You went in great comfort. It was a wonderful way to travel.

-Yes.

-It was also very dangerous.

-Yes, it was.

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It's a pity because that and the later crash of the Hindenburg

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brought it all to an end,

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although it had potential to be an immensely popular and effective means of transport.

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Now, airship memorabilia is rare, simply because nothing survived.

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As a piece of airship memorabilia, I think it has a considerable value.

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A piece like this...

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-might be £500 to an enthusiast, maybe more.

-Crikey!

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George Hodgson was my great uncle,

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and he was the eldest son of William Hodgson,

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who was a Nottingham lace manufacturer.

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-Ah, yes, Nottingham lace.

-He was to take over the business.

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He became the manager, then gave up and became a painter, so my grandfather took over the business.

0:21:400:21:48

There was two sides of the family,

0:21:480:21:50

so this is just half a collection.

0:21:500:21:53

I don't know what happened to the other half, but this was our half.

0:21:530:21:57

And George Hodgson is well-known in Nottingham.

0:21:570:22:01

-Yes.

-He exhibited in Nottingham Art Society. What about the museum?

0:22:010:22:06

He was a president of the Society Of The Artists. He exhibited twice at the Royal Academy in London.

0:22:060:22:13

-And what about the museum?

-They have got some at the Castle Museum.

0:22:130:22:18

He painted all over the British Isles. Here's these two of Chepstow,

0:22:180:22:22

-and then we've got another one here of Cornwall.

-Cornwall.

0:22:220:22:27

This is Mevagissey inscribed here.

0:22:270:22:30

Big, bold, strong landscapes, they're really good. I must say, I'm impressed with George Hodgson,

0:22:300:22:36

but he's not an artist that really I have known about before.

0:22:360:22:41

You've got an enormous collection here, you've got an archive.

0:22:410:22:45

These, a whole lot more, there's a box full, and here's another one.

0:22:450:22:50

Again, rather different sort of Hodgson this. This is a figurative subject

0:22:500:22:58

with the classical-looking girl, the tiger and the peacock.

0:22:580:23:02

And I particularly like this little one of Brighton - Brighton Beach.

0:23:020:23:08

I think that's really charming. It's very bright and crisp and clear.

0:23:080:23:12

How many things do you think there are here?

0:23:120:23:16

-Oh, on our side of the family there must be...

-200.

-200.

0:23:160:23:20

Although, individually, these may not be very valuable, I mean a big watercolour like that,

0:23:200:23:28

might be worth £1,000, and the other ones £500 to £1,000.

0:23:280:23:34

The little Brighton Beach about £4-500 maybe,

0:23:340:23:37

but cumulatively we're looking at...

0:23:370:23:39

10 or £20,000.

0:23:390:23:42

-So, a very fascinating archive. Thank you very much for bringing the whole lot along.

-Thank you.

0:23:420:23:48

My father was an avid collector, he was also a dealer.

0:23:480:23:52

When he died, I shared with my two brothers, part of the collection.

0:23:520:23:57

-So your brothers have more snuff boxes?

-Yes.

-Let's have a look.

0:23:570:24:02

This one particularly caught my eye. It's just the quality of it is absolutely wonderful.

0:24:020:24:09

-The wood is burr maple.

-Right.

0:24:090:24:11

Which is nice wood and this wonderful decoration on the top -

0:24:110:24:16

a carved flower within a cartouche with a banding round the edge.

0:24:160:24:21

Just a nice quality snuff box, probably dating, I would think, from early 19th century, 1800-1810.

0:24:210:24:28

-Is that English?

-Yes, that would be English, certainly, yes.

0:24:280:24:33

This a brass one with a figure on the front,

0:24:330:24:37

and it's titled "Old Q". Now, who is Old Q?

0:24:370:24:41

This one fascinates me. Apart from the fact, it's brass...

0:24:410:24:45

-Yes.

-..it's terribly finely made.

0:24:450:24:47

Old Q - I've always wondered who he was, and who the character is.

0:24:470:24:52

Looks rather Roland-ish.

0:24:520:24:55

-Yes, the only Old Q I can recall is the Marquess of Queensberry.

-Ah.

0:24:550:25:00

And he was the one whose son, Lord Alfred Douglas, had an affair with Oscar Wilde.

0:25:000:25:06

He sued Oscar Wilde. That's why he left the country and died in France.

0:25:060:25:11

But I think this is too early for him

0:25:110:25:14

because this dates from late 18th - early 19th century.

0:25:140:25:18

-Really?

-Absolutely terrific, so we don't know exactly who Old Q was,

0:25:180:25:23

and if you look at the costume,

0:25:230:25:26

-that is of the Regency period, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:25:260:25:29

So perhaps early 19th century.

0:25:290:25:32

Is that also a snuff box?

0:25:320:25:34

-Yes, that would have been, yes, yes.

-It seems to me it would fall out a bit.

-Yes.

-It's a tight-fitting lid.

0:25:340:25:41

They were carried around or found on the table, to take after a meal.

0:25:410:25:47

-This is a lovely little scene of Sherborne church, called "church", now it's the abbey, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:25:470:25:54

But super building, wonderful. And on the other side,

0:25:540:25:58

I suppose the china shop from which the little pot was bought,

0:25:580:26:02

-Belben's of glass, china and furniture - perhaps bought from there.

-Yes.

-How does it come to you?

0:26:020:26:08

It came through my grandparents' family down to my parents.

0:26:080:26:13

-Yes.

-And then they passed on and I've now got it.

-It's left to you.

0:26:130:26:18

I suppose in date, 1860-1870, so 130-odd years old.

0:26:180:26:24

-Marvellous to see a representation of the place as it was then.

-Yes.

0:26:240:26:29

-So look after that, won't you?

-Yes.

-Not of enormous value. Something like £100.

-That's nice.

0:26:290:26:36

There's a couple more which we might look at, which are not snuff boxes.

0:26:360:26:41

Were they also your father's?

0:26:410:26:43

-No, these came from my godfather.

-Right.

-I think they represent his unusual taste.

0:26:430:26:49

Oh, right, I see, well, yes.

0:26:490:26:51

Here we have a meerschaum pipe - meerschaum is a very porous mineral

0:26:510:26:57

found in the Black Sea.

0:26:570:26:59

And pipes were made - mainly it was exported to Germany and Austria -

0:26:590:27:04

and they were very popular in this country.

0:27:040:27:07

And this one has Leda and the swan.

0:27:070:27:10

-Yes.

-In an amorous embrace, shall we put it that way?

-Yes.

0:27:100:27:16

It's got its original leather case, which is nice. Super quality, so...

0:27:160:27:22

yes, probably about 1880-1890.

0:27:220:27:25

-Been well used, not by me.

-Was your godfather a pipe smoker?

0:27:260:27:30

He smoked a bit. There's little room for tobacco, it wouldn't last!

0:27:300:27:35

No, absolutely not. Perhaps you got tired of looking at Leda!

0:27:350:27:40

An interesting thing is it's got a white dot.

0:27:400:27:43

-Oh, yes.

-Which is similar to a dot which is used by a proprietary pipemaker even today. I don't...

0:27:430:27:50

That particular tobacco manufacturer was going at the time this was made,

0:27:500:27:55

so it could well be

0:27:550:27:57

that it was made and retailed by a particular manufacturer in London.

0:27:570:28:02

-Yes, what date was that, did you say?

-Er, 1880-1890.

0:28:020:28:06

Well, here we have a William IV sea service pistol.

0:28:060:28:12

-Flintlock, but a belt pistol - see the belt clip on the side?

-Yes.

0:28:120:28:17

So this is to thrust into the top of their trousers or their belt.

0:28:170:28:21

-Right.

-And there you go, but this is the last of the flintlock types.

0:28:210:28:26

-Right.

-In no time at all, after William's reign,

0:28:260:28:30

-they started having percussion weapons.

-Right.

-So this is the last pick of flintlock weapons.

0:28:300:28:36

-Did they have balls?

-Oh, yes, balls straight down there and then you've got a captive ramrod,

0:28:360:28:42

-with which you rammed it down.

-Yeah.

-The action, there's the action,

0:28:420:28:47

and there's the pan where you put the powder in.

0:28:470:28:51

And you close the pan, it's nicely sealed, the powder won't come out.

0:28:510:28:56

And then, when you pull the trigger,

0:28:560:28:59

-away she goes, sparks go into the pan.

-And you fire.

-There you are.

0:28:590:29:03

-Were they dangerous?

-Oh, yes, nasty.

-Right.

0:29:030:29:07

-But the whole point is that this is in remarkable condition.

-Good.

0:29:070:29:12

-There's the Board Of Ordinance mark.

-Yeah, I wondered what that was.

0:29:120:29:17

Today, a pistol like this in auction would fetch something like

0:29:170:29:21

£1,200 - £1,250.

0:29:210:29:24

-Good Lord!

-It's in such lovely condition.

-Brilliant.

0:29:240:29:28

-I can't find any hallmarks. It comes up well with polish.

-Right.

-It might be Britannia metal.

0:29:280:29:34

It's definitely silver. No hallmarks indicates it's probably Continental.

0:29:340:29:39

-Right.

-And not English, so it was probably made in Germany or Austria,

0:29:390:29:43

and then I see it has another little lever here and I think I know...

0:29:430:29:47

-Ah, that's right, yes.

-Well, there we have it.

0:29:470:29:51

Well, that's very interesting because that confirms that it is a Continental cigarette case -

0:29:510:29:57

English women of the period would not be depicted with underarm hair.

0:29:570:30:02

So probably German or Austrian.

0:30:040:30:06

Um, under normal circumstances, that cigarette box, without the enamel,

0:30:060:30:11

would not be of great value. We have to talk about values, and if we go back

0:30:110:30:17

to this snuff box, the first one...

0:30:170:30:20

-In a shop you would probably pay £500, £600, £700.

-Really? As much as that?

0:30:200:30:26

Yes, lovely quality. The brass one with Old Q - it might add to the value if you could find out

0:30:260:30:33

who Old Q was, but that's a few hundred pounds.

0:30:330:30:37

The Meerschaum pipe with Leda and the swan,

0:30:370:30:40

that would probably be worth...

0:30:400:30:43

-£600 to £800, maybe £1,000 on a good day.

-As high as that?

0:30:440:30:49

And, lastly, the cigarette box,

0:30:490:30:52

without the enamel - that would probably be worth £10 or £20 -

0:30:520:30:56

with the enamel, it turns it into a cigarette box probably worth...

0:30:560:31:00

£1,500 - £2,000.

0:31:000:31:03

-I can't believe it! Fascinating.

-There are a number of collectors

0:31:030:31:07

-for a charming cigarette box, and a charming lady.

-I'm sure she was.

0:31:070:31:11

-It belongs to a friend of mine.

-Right.

-And it was inherited by her late husband in the 1940s

0:31:110:31:17

and I presume it had been in the family for quite a long time.

0:31:170:31:21

-A long time.

-That's all I know.

0:31:210:31:24

Be interesting to see how far back in that family... It has that look of something

0:31:240:31:31

-that's been in a home for a long time.

-Yes.

-An aura about it.

-Yes.

0:31:310:31:37

It's a cupboard with - some oval panels in the door,

0:31:370:31:42

a fairly shallow bow front,

0:31:420:31:44

and you could walk past it. It doesn't stand

0:31:440:31:48

and say something until you DO stop and look -

0:31:480:31:53

and then one starts to realise that these oval panels are in the centre of a rectangle,

0:31:530:32:00

which has this lovely mitred corner of veneer.

0:32:000:32:03

When you look at that, you realise that it's not just any veneer - this is satinwood,

0:32:030:32:10

which was an extremely expensive exotic veneer from the last quarter of the 18th century

0:32:100:32:17

when we first started to import it, but it is the most expensive sort,

0:32:170:32:22

which, ironically, was unstable, so a man was using this, almost in the knowledge

0:32:220:32:28

-that with time it would crinkle.

-Really?

-And crack.

0:32:280:32:33

Here he had to put a piece in. At the top

0:32:330:32:36

you will see these wonderful, almost as dark as a conker look to this.

0:32:360:32:43

Almost a chestnutty colour, and yet it's this rippling deep satinwood effect.

0:32:430:32:48

Deep satin effect.

0:32:480:32:50

Damage to the top with a watermark, but that's cosmetic.

0:32:500:32:53

You then come to the oval panels themselves and they are bordered and delineated with rosewood,

0:32:530:33:01

a thin piece of ebony and a piece of boxwood to give it a black-white line. It's repeated on there.

0:33:010:33:08

There's a good example that goes all the way round.

0:33:080:33:11

When this was new, the satinwood was bright yellow, pale yellow and dark,

0:33:110:33:18

then black, white and this grained satinwood forming cross-banding.

0:33:180:33:23

At the end of the 18th century, there were two designers of furniture in the classic style,

0:33:230:33:29

both Hepplewhite, George Hepplewhite and Thomas Sheraton.

0:33:290:33:34

Sheraton comes to mind

0:33:340:33:37

because of the use of the satinwood.

0:33:370:33:40

You have what could be straight out of Hepplewhite's drawing book,

0:33:400:33:45

rather than Sheraton. The use of mahogany inside here

0:33:450:33:49

with two drawers,

0:33:490:33:52

which are 1775-1795 in period,

0:33:520:33:56

in shape, with a cock-bead original handle,

0:33:560:34:00

and then for ultimate use - you have adjustable slides,

0:34:000:34:04

faced up with mahogany, the back of which is pine,

0:34:040:34:08

absolutely traditional.

0:34:080:34:11

And there it is, simplicity itself, but total use.

0:34:120:34:16

So what, at first, looks like just a nice well-designed cabinet,

0:34:160:34:22

is, in fact, an exceptional piece of furniture, so goodness knows -

0:34:220:34:27

this was made by an important maker,

0:34:270:34:30

it could be someone like Ince and Mayhew - it's as good as that.

0:34:300:34:34

It's really quite remarkable.

0:34:340:34:37

If one went into a good gallery, where you'd have to go to buy such a piece as this today,

0:34:370:34:44

you'd have to give between

0:34:440:34:46

-£25,000 and £30,000.

-She'll be stunned. I hope she'll be pleased.

0:34:460:34:52

We have here a collection of letters by CL Dodgson,

0:34:520:34:56

better known as Lewis Carroll - can you tell me anything about them?

0:34:560:35:00

Well, only that my aunt received them as a little girl.

0:35:000:35:05

-Um, now Gladys Bailey - that was your aunt?

-Yes.

0:35:050:35:09

Right, well let's have a look.

0:35:090:35:12

We've got some rather nice embossed crabs, and it says here...

0:35:130:35:18

"Some day you'll be a great artist, and when you have a picture exhibited in London

0:35:180:35:24

"about 15 yards long and full of the loveliest people and hoards,

0:35:240:35:30

"I shall proudly say to the people,

0:35:300:35:32

"as they stand round it, with their eyes and their mouths wide open,

0:35:320:35:37

"Do you know, I knew the lady who did that picture

0:35:370:35:42

"when she was quite a little girl,

0:35:420:35:44

"and I've got some of the very first pictures that she ever did."

0:35:440:35:49

But if I move very quickly to this letter over here...

0:35:490:35:53

"I do most earnestly hope

0:35:530:35:55

"she will be kept from spoiling it by conceit and hunger for praise.

0:35:550:36:01

"A beautiful child when conceited is disagreeable to all around her".

0:36:010:36:07

He, at the same time while encouraging the little girl,

0:36:070:36:10

was cautioning the parents against the little girl becoming conceited.

0:36:100:36:16

Well, Lewis Carroll is an attractive figure - very, very collectable.

0:36:160:36:21

In auction these letters might well fetch about...

0:36:210:36:25

£5,000 or so. If you insure them, you've got to put that up somewhat.

0:36:250:36:30

-Thank you for bringing them in. I've enjoyed them.

-Thank you.

0:36:300:36:34

..Two, three, four, right?

0:36:360:36:39

-Right, yeah.

-Now those four are 18th century,

0:36:390:36:42

everything else is 19-20th century.

0:36:420:36:45

And the interesting thing - this collection's fascinating -

0:36:450:36:49

is three of them are all tortoiseshell.

0:36:490:36:53

-Veneer, very anti-whatever, I'm afraid, these days.

-Yes.

0:36:530:36:57

But they're either tortoiseshell or possibly under-painted horn.

0:36:570:37:00

This final one is plain horn,

0:37:000:37:03

almost like a translucent plastic, grubby plastic.

0:37:030:37:06

And they've used a decoration underneath, of a village scene.

0:37:060:37:11

What's unusual about them is

0:37:120:37:14

that you can imagine with contraction and expansion of metal,

0:37:140:37:18

they usually split, and these have survived in excellent condition.

0:37:180:37:23

They've been locked away for about four years.

0:37:230:37:26

-They haven't seen the light of day.

-They've survived well.

0:37:260:37:30

Me father was a blacksmith and welder and loved mechanical things.

0:37:300:37:34

He had big hands, and how he could play with these things in the evenings totally surprised me.

0:37:340:37:41

Some of the best watchmakers had hands like butchers.

0:37:410:37:46

It's true that very large hands tend to have a very delicate touch.

0:37:460:37:50

So what are we saying for these?

0:37:500:37:52

250, 350, 250.

0:37:520:37:57

-Right.

-250.

0:37:570:38:00

-So that's... Well, that's a grand there about.

-Really?

0:38:010:38:05

-Oh.

-Right.

0:38:060:38:09

-WG, so, Wilfred de Glen, I think. Is that right?

-Yes.

0:38:090:38:13

-How did you get it?

-My husband bought it for me about 10 years ago as a Christmas present and...

0:38:130:38:20

-He chose it for you?

-Yes, for me,

0:38:200:38:23

but I think he really wanted it for himself - she has pride of place in our home so...

0:38:230:38:29

I'm not surprised. She's lovely.

0:38:290:38:31

He's interesting. He's a German, but born in England,

0:38:310:38:35

so that makes him English, but his father was German.

0:38:350:38:39

-Right.

-He was born Wilfred von Glen, in about 1870,

0:38:390:38:44

so by the war, one could forgive him for changing his name to de Glen.

0:38:440:38:49

-A lot of people did at that time.

-I think it was a sensible thing to do.

0:38:490:38:53

I think she's got such a lovely face.

0:38:530:38:56

Very pretty.

0:38:560:38:59

She's got an Italianate hill town in the background.

0:38:590:39:03

-It's lovely. Did you know that he also designed stained glass?

-Yes.

0:39:030:39:07

That may account for that luminous quality in this picture.

0:39:070:39:11

Yes, yes, yes, I suppose it could.

0:39:110:39:14

In our dark hall, it's luminous, and I'm always caught by the light.

0:39:140:39:20

-It's almost back-lit, isn't it? It's almost radiant.

-Mm, yes.

0:39:200:39:24

It's so powerful. It does have a drawback...

0:39:240:39:27

It's painted quickly and thickly, and there's been some cracking in the paint.

0:39:270:39:32

Which has been covered up with some really quite crude overpainting.

0:39:320:39:37

If you hold it up in a raking light, you can see that overpainting and it's rather spoiling the picture.

0:39:370:39:43

It should be cleaned off. It would benefit from a clean and a re-varnish

0:39:430:39:48

with a matter varnish, so it wasn't so shiny.

0:39:480:39:51

Then you would see how beautiful it is. It'd go "ping" off the wall.

0:39:510:39:57

-What do you think it's worth, any ideas?

-I don't know.

0:39:570:40:01

-I know what my husband paid for it.

-Which was?

-£350.

-And, when, again?

0:40:010:40:05

About ten years, we can't be sure.

0:40:050:40:08

-Yes, it's probably worth about £6,000 now.

-Heavens, how wonderful.

0:40:080:40:13

Emerald green shagreen case containing...

0:40:130:40:19

..a miniature writing set.

0:40:210:40:23

And in incredible condition.

0:40:230:40:26

How - when I tell you the date, which I think -

0:40:280:40:32

looking at this serpentine shape,

0:40:320:40:35

it's really rococo in a way,

0:40:350:40:38

it's sort of mid-18th century.

0:40:380:40:40

And these are very typical mid-18th century

0:40:400:40:45

sort of rococo styled or influenced little tops to the pounce pot and the ink pot,

0:40:450:40:51

but I think it's later than that.

0:40:510:40:54

My feeling is it would be between about 1775-1790, that period.

0:40:540:40:59

-Is this a family thing?

-My mother-in-law gave it to me

0:41:000:41:05

and told me that it came from her mother-in-law, who was American.

0:41:050:41:10

-Right.

-She was a Logan.

0:41:100:41:13

-A Logan?

-Yes.

-Now that's a name that sounds familiar.

0:41:130:41:17

Yes, well, Corey might be able to tell you more...

0:41:170:41:21

My five times grandfather was James Logan of Philadelphia,

0:41:210:41:25

who was William Penn's agent, secretary, et al.

0:41:250:41:30

How interesting. And that would fit in with the date, wouldn't it?

0:41:310:41:36

-Well, he went there in 1699.

-The family were there.

-Oh, yes.

0:41:360:41:41

-Almost certainly this was made in London.

-Oh?

-Not American.

0:41:410:41:45

So let's just.. Oh, I love things like this - let's just investigate.

0:41:450:41:50

Here there is a little pen...

0:41:510:41:53

or a pen holder, I should say.

0:41:530:41:57

Onto it...

0:41:580:42:00

you can screw various nibs.

0:42:000:42:02

So that's a great bit of engineering, really.

0:42:020:42:06

Engineering and ingenuity.

0:42:060:42:09

And this is for ink, this is for pounce.

0:42:090:42:13

Um, so, yes, it's a lovely example of not only the silversmith's art,

0:42:130:42:18

but also of the boxmaker's art. This box is absolutely delicious.

0:42:180:42:23

-What is the skin, do you think?

-It's fish skin.

-Fish?

-Fish skin.

0:42:230:42:28

-Shagreen, it's fish skin.

-I thought it was lizard, I don't know why.

0:42:290:42:33

No, it's much too hard-wearing for that.

0:42:330:42:36

If you wanted to replace this, you'd have to pay a great deal for it.

0:42:360:42:41

I think this needs to be insured for £4,500.

0:42:410:42:45

Wonderful, thank you so much.

0:42:450:42:48

We've learned a lot today, but that's a tradition which goes back centuries in Sherborne.

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Some famous faces have chewed on their pencils here - difficult to imagine John Le Mesurier

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and Jeremy Irons in a school cap - so I won't try!

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Many thanks to today's Sherbornians for letting us have our work-out in their sports centre.

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From Dorset, until the next time, goodbye.

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