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Early morning in Devon. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
Another gentle start to the day, except in one corner of the county. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
Still two hours to go till the start of another Roadshow | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
and already the queue is forming | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
for our second visit to Dartington Hall. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
It looks as though the experts are in for a very busy day. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
A typical Roadshow means each and every expert will comb through | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
thousands of items searching for treasures. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
For the team, a hearty breakfast is essential. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
Can you open that for me? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
EXPERTS CHAT | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
Thank you. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
Oh! That's interesting. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-Dishwasher proof, I'm afraid. -Oh, well. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
-Very nice... -> | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-Good, what have you got, sir? -> | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
Have you ever seen one with a fluted handle and the finger grips? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
Finger grips... it may be a musical instrument, you know. You never know. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
Meanwhile, last minute checks are being made to our cameras, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
getting ready to roll on the action. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
The doors are open. Have a good day! | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
-That's for the dolls. -Thank you. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
-He's always been chubby and happy. -I bet... | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
-and he's a money box. -It's a money box, yes. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
My wife wanted a money box, she had a little one, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
you know, this size, but she wanted a bigger one. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
I don't think she dreamed of anything like this. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
I bet he held a lot of money. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Well, at one point we had enough money in him, that we went to America for a holiday. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
-Good heavens. -Yes, yes. He's a wonderful size, isn't he? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
He is, isn't he? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
He should be marked underneath the bottom, yes, there we are, it says, "Plichta, London, England." | 0:02:17 | 0:02:23 | |
But not made in London, made locally here in Bovey Tracey. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
-Yes. -Which is extraordinary. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
London was where Plichta had his sale room, his show room, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
he dealt in these, but made by Nekola, after he left Wemyss - up in Scotland, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
he came down to Bovey Tracey in the 1930s to make these wonderful porkers | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
for, I suppose, the local market. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
-You bought this locally? -Yes, in Torquay. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
Because it's very unusual to have a Bovey Tracey money box. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
They're usually just happy pigs, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
but this one is terribly rare in being a money box. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Yes, and it's been so useful. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
Yes, I always think it's silly | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
to have roses painted on the sides of a pig, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
but it just makes him happy and jolly, doesn't it? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
Yeah, I paid seven pound ten shillings for him... that was in 1950, yes. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
-A lot of money then... -Quite a lot of money... -..two weeks' wages. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Two weeks' wages, three weeks with me, but he's gone up a bit in value. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
Nowadays, his price is going to be about... | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
about £1200 - £1500... | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
-1750, something like that... 1500 - £1750. -You're kidding! | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
Yes, so you've got to start collecting. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
I don't think I need to collect, I mean I've got him. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
< This is a very beautiful vase. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Is it something that you've owned for a long time? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
It's been in the family a long time, it's been in since about 1930. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
My grandfather bought it at a house sale back in... | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
-up in Staffordshire, I believe. -In Staffordshire? -Yes. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
When he died, it was passed... well we've got two... | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
it was passed to my mother and my aunt. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Do you know what it is, where it was made? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Not really, er, all we know - it's oriental, Japanese. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
-It is Japanese, but it's Japanese made for the European market. -Right. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
So you've got a Japanese blue and white vase | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
that has been over-decorated, and the term for that is called clobbering. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
-Clobbering? -Clobbering...and so this is lacquer, done in Japan, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
but to meet European taste. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
And in the 1850s, when Japan opened to the West, there was a mania for all things Japanese, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:30 | |
and this vase absolutely falls squarely into that sort of taste. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
-Right. -The amount of decoration, if we just turn it round. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
The lacquer is almost more beautiful than the porcelain... | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
The porcelain is standard, that wouldn't have appealed to Japanese taste, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
but this would have gone very well into aesthetic interiors in the 1870s and '80s in England. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
Oh, right. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
What's also nice is that it's standing on its original base. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
The proportion of the base to the vase | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
makes me feel that the base was made in England when the vase came over. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
-Yes. -I just want to, if I may... Can I take this off? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-Yes, yes, feel free. -Let me just put this down. -Yeah. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
And let's just have a look at the... | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
put that down as well... have a look under the base. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
-The top does come off. -OK, we'll be very careful. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
This is ebonised with a yew wood panel here | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
and Adamesque decoration. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
I want to see, sometimes they're labelled underneath. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Yes. Let's just do this very carefully. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
-Oh! Never looked underneath it before. -Underneath here... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
you've got the label of James Edgar, and interestingly he describes himself as "Art Cabinet Factory." | 0:05:37 | 0:05:45 | |
And art furniture is the term that people used in the 1870s | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
for artistic furniture. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Not just standard cabinet making, but things which were meant to have an artistic feel to them. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
And he was in Liverpool. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
Now, Liverpool's exactly the sort of area | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
where many houses were being built. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
There were people like Lloyd Raynor, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
like John Grant Morris, who had Allerton Priory, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and we know, from catalogues of sales of theirs, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
that not only did they buy contemporary paintings, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-but they also bought oriental pots, as well. -Yeah. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
-So one can picture this as part of a classic interior at that period. -Yes. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Let me put the vase back on top. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
Absolutely beautiful as a pair... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
As a vase, on its own, you're probably looking... | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
As a single vase... | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-something at auction that might fetch £500, £800, for one vase. -Yeah. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
But assuming the other one is in more or less the same condition... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Perhaps just a little bit more of the glaze missing where - | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
my auntie had a grocer's shop, she used to keep the eggs on top of the vase. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
-Probably not the best idea... -No, no, but never mind. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
As a pair of vases... | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-..on stands, so really they become works of art in themselves, more than just individual vases. -Yes. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:57 | |
I think that you would need to insure these today for something like | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
£5,000 or £6,000 for the pair. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
-Really? Gosh! -They're beautiful and very evocative of that particular period. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
-Yes, yes. -Try and keep the two of them together in the family. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
I'm sure you've heard it before... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-I'm very pleasantly surprised by that. -Thank you for bringing it. -Thank you. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
Well, in English Georgian silver, this is a very, very unusual object. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
Do you know very much about its background or anything about it? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Very little, only that it belongs to a very good friend of mine | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
who's a retired naval gentleman | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
and it was actually left to him | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
by his mother's sister who worked for a gentleman in Hampshire. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
-Right, so that's about it. -That's about it. -OK. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Well, in that case it's up to me. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
As you can see, it's beautifully hallmarked | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
and it was made in London in 1818, but this is such an unusual piece | 0:07:45 | 0:07:51 | |
to be English that I imagine that it was specifically commissioned. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
I mean, apart from the owl, which is a lovely thing, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
the base is all chased with animals, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
there's a tortoise there and lizards and a snail | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
and it's all very nicely hallmarked | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
-on the lid as well, on the top... -Yeah. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
..and on the base. Now these were originally drinking cups, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
although you might not want to drink out of it, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
because it's unhygienic. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
And the idea goes right back to the 16th century | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
and usually they're continental | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
and they used to just put them down on the table as decorations | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
and so I would imagine that someone had seen a continental one | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
and decided that he would like an English one. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
-You obviously have no idea of its value? -No. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-Do you want to hazard a guess? -Yes, I would. -Go on then. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
Um...a couple of thousand? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
-It's probably more £8,000 - £10,000. -Really? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
-Because it is such a rare object. -Crikey. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
And it is charming and delightful and people love owls. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-Yes, I do, I love owls. -So I think it...it's great. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
-Thank you for bringing it. -Thank you. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-What do you know about this? > -Very little really, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
it's been in the family a long time and I use it as a desk. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-So it's inherited through the family? -Yeah. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Um, no idea where it came from originally? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
It might have come from a house they bought in Torquay many years ago | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
that belonged to Lord Lascelles | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
who was, I think, somewhere in line to the royal family. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
-Right, so it might have some... -He was a traveller and soldier so he might have brought it back. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
Right, because it immediately speaks to me of something continental, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
but also somewhat medieval, it has this amazing hasp here, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
which is almost like a little castle on its own with all its turrets and pinnacles. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
Extraordinary, and then ironwork, covered in ironwork, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
which had originally red velvet behind it, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
so it would really have shone out against the walnut, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
these big, big planks of walnut. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
Er, on a stand, open stand and... | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Do you think was meant to go with this? Because we were never sure whether... | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
Absolutely, I think this is a later stand, so I'm already suggesting | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-that this, this could be earlier, I think this is a 19th-century stand. -Right. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
Which has been...has copied really a style that is earlier. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
And that style, to me, is Spanish, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
and it's a form that goes back to the 16th century | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
and the term that's used for this form is a vargueno. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
The inside, I think, as you know, is extremely... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
surprising perhaps... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
So the very, very heavy front | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
drops down and reveals an absolutely delightful interior. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
Wonderful interior, lots of geometrical inlay of bone, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
lots of gilding, these little twisted columns that flank each of the drawers. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
Now to me, what's exciting is that this kind of thing, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
this Spanish cabinet, this vargueno | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
is one of the prototypes, one of the fore-runners | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
of the English escritoire, the English fall-front writing desk and also the cabinet on stand. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:09 | |
The influence and the decoration here is from North Africa, it's really coming from the Moors. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
This one, I think, is a 17th century one. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Now, of course, all these little drawers | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
are fascinating and sometimes these pieces have little, not hidden drawers, but concealed drawers. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
-Anything going on here that I don't know about? -A little one here. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
-I didn't know about that one. Anything else? -One more below... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Oh, right, so you've got this wonderful progression of drawers | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
in the centre, coming out from this central architectural feature. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
I think that's lovely and I can also see here that the drawer linings | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
are all made of walnut, so the whole thing is made of walnut. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Well, it's not the kind of thing that everybody could give room to, so there's a slightly limited market. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
Now probably... | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
£3,500 - £4,500, which might seem not enough for such an elaborate... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
No, that's around about what we had thought. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
That's good - no disappointment there. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-No. Oh, we love it. -We'll give it a polish. -Excellent. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
Now, this is a very valuable dish. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
-Is it? -Did you know that? -No I didn't, no. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
And so when you have a large and valuable dish like this, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
you have to do what I do... | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
hold it by both hands, otherwise you could have a disaster. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-Yes. -So where did you get it from? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
It belongs to my mother and my grandfather bought it in a sale | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
in 1940 from a large house in North Finchley in London. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:44 | |
This dish was painted by W S Coleman, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
who was the leading light of the Minton's Pottery studios | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
operating in London in the 1870s | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
and he was quite closely connected with Whistler | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
and various members of the Pre-Raphaelites. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
You get the sort of Whistler... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
these peacocks and... | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
orientally inspired decoration on the surface. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
In many ways, of course, all we've got here | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
is...the pottery dish | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
as a support...for a painting | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
and Coleman was really a painter, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
so this is unusual, to the extent that it's... | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
firstly a painting on pottery. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
-Yeah. -But still, it's very collectable. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
The Minton studio is immensely admired and this is a very good one. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
Coleman was much copied | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
and people in the studio sometimes painted designs by him, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
but this is HIM. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
-This is him. -I told you at the beginning it was quite valuable. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
-Yes. -I think if you wanted to buy one, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
you'd probably have to spend | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
-about £4,000. -Blimey. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Do you know... | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
I don't say this very frequently... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
it doesn't pay to get too enthusiastic about things, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
but what an emerald you have brought along here today. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
This is a fantastic looking gem. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Please tell me where it came from. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
It belonged to my aunt, um, who died three years ago, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
she was born about 1915, I think. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
I know it's difficult because if you don't know very much about them, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
it's difficult to really sort of convey the sort of person that she might have been, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
but would she have been the kind of woman | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
that would have worn a gem like this and shown the thing off? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
I think she, they would have worn it, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
all of them wore stuff like that in their social life. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Now first of all, I think we can appreciate the intensity, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
what you might call, the saturation of colour, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
it's very deep green. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:56 | |
Now, you often find these where they're very pale, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
where they're very washed out, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
and they can be quite large, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
but actually, they're ever so slightly, um, pastelly. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
-The valuable ones are the ones that have a great deal of dark blue-green colour. -Right. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:15 | |
The quality of this stone | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
is the kind of stone | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
that would have been mined and cut in around about say 1910-1915. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
That was the zenith, if you like, of the pre-First World War period of jewellery design | 0:15:23 | 0:15:30 | |
where firms like Cartier, firms like Tiffany, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
-were making jewellery like this, which is extremely pretty, easy to wear. -Yes. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:41 | |
And also with the calibre of gem that is peerless. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
It's just what they did, that's how they made their reputation. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
The colour of the stone is also set off | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
by the little diamonds around the square frame. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
That square shape works very well. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
So we know it's this Colombian stone, it comes from one of these two mines | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
which were the Chivor or Muzo mines, in Columbia, which had this kind of terrific gem. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:10 | |
-Right. -They often have little fissures running through them. -Right. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
There we are, we've got some fissures | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
going through the stone itself, um, it weighs... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
And looking at it, I would estimate the weight of the stone, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
-maybe around about three and a half carats. -Right. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
It's not very deep, but it spreads very beautifully. It's a lovely ring. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
I would suggest to you that if it was offered in an auction, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
it would be estimated at around | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
£8,000 - £10,000. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
I think it's one of the loveliest stones of its type | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
I've seen on the Antiques Roadshow, it's lovely. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
-That's very nice. -Thank you for bringing it in. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
I think everybody would agree, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
this is a very, very pretty picture, this lovely, young girl | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
standing at the terrace looking somewhat reverential, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
eyes cast down, and I believe wearing a mantilla... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
Just over the terrace here, lightly touching there a white handkerchief. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
Now, who is she? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
-She is the artist's sister. -Right, how do you know that? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
My mother had it from the actual lady who's in the picture | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-and it was her brother that painted it. -How wonderful. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
-Well, the artist, the signature here... -Yes. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
..is William Bennett and it's dated 1901. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Now, he's not a very, very well known artist, in fact, he's a very little known artist. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
But occasionally, you know, you come up with great works by artists | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
who perhaps very few people have heard of. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
It's in its original mount and original frame. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
Where do you hang this picture? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
-It's been behind the wardrobe for several years. -Why was that? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
Because I had a picture painted for my husband, of his dog, and I put that up instead. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
So what... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
explain it a little bit more... | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
I mean were you happy with that? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
There's lots of light in our house and I didn't want that to get the light on it too much. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
Well, that's admirable to do that because... | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
-if it had been hung for a long time... -Drains the colour... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
..it would have just faded and it wouldn't be as nice. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-That's right. -I think, looking at the technique, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
it's interesting, the variety of techniques... | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
here with the railings and the bar there on the terrace | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
and even the painting of the handkerchief... | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
quite loosely painted, but when we look at the face, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
it is not just pedantically painted in miniature, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
but it's a different way of painting - much more detail, softer | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
to give a contrast between the human portrait | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
and the representation of a face, and also the drapery. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
What I am quite interested in is certainly the kind of iconography. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
I mean, why is she dressed like this? | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
Her brother, the artist, seeing his sister in some really rather innocent way | 0:18:46 | 0:18:52 | |
and the ivy has a kind of iconography with fidelity and so on, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
so I'm sure it's a kind of brother's idealised viewpoint of, of his sister. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:04 | |
Well, I believe he was accepted for the Academy in London | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
and I think he might have took that and had it... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
-As a possible exhibited work, yes. -Yes. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
Well, I think it's absolutely beautiful | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and I think most people would agree. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
It has a sweetness about it, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
-but I don't think it's over-sentimental. -No. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
But together, the frame, the original frame and the mount, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
we must come to think of its value... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
And I would have thought, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
because he's not a very well known artist, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
-but a beautiful picture, somewhere between £3,000 and £5,000. -Oh, right. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Didn't realise as much as that. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
-No, well it's a lovely thing, thank you very much indeed. -Thank you. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
Bunny, you've brought us your personal menagerie, isn't that wonderful? | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
Childhood memories - but before you tell us about them, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
remember in Northern Ireland, Mount Stewart, you came across that rare Steiff bear? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-Never forget it. -It went on to be sold for £23,000. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
Did they only make bears, Steiff? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
No they didn't, they, in fact, started off, um, with a little miniature elephant | 0:20:04 | 0:20:10 | |
and then the bears were on wheels | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
and then they started making teddy bears in 1903, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
but they make every animal in the book, and they still do. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Any animal you think of, they make, including this lovely rooster here, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:25 | |
who is not mine, I have to say, he came in today and I asked them if I could borrow him for...to show you. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
He's got lovely cut felt body and he would have had, in the comb, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
a little button which showed he was by Steiff. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
So it's very clever to have a label. But they also made... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
and I've got this here, they made pigs... | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
I've got a pig here, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
but I've also got my personal weasel. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
He's got his button in his ear here, he's missing his tail | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
and I've got to send him off to Steiff to see if they'll put another one on. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
But just to give you an idea of the range... | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
But they made all those animals, but they're not the only people. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
And we jumped on the bandwagon, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
the British, and Chad Valley and Farnell and various other makes. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
But what about everyone who's got old toys up in the attic or whatever, stuffed toys. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:16 | |
What's the most valuable? What should they... | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Well, I think what they could have in the attic, which is more likely, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
is something like this, which is... | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
This is a Merrythought, he's lost one eye, he's actually a rattle. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
He's not particularly valuable, but he will go up in value if he's looked after. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:35 | |
That's another thing we've got to worry about because a lot of these... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
the earlier ones are stuffed with this wood shavings and, of course, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
then you get woodworm. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Then you get the felt coats, they get moth-eaten. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
And you can see this one here, um, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
he's a very valuable Steiff, but look he's got moth-eaten, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
even while he's been sitting on my dressing table. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Even while we've been talking. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
That's very sad... So they're old and they get musty and dusty. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
Do they get sort of infested with things? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Um, quite often, mine don't, but if they did... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
I'd put them in the freezer | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
for 72 hours and it kills the little blighters. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Which is the most expensive one? The most valuable, rather? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
Um, one I was given, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
and that is a Steiff. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
I'm afraid the Steiff are still the most valuable. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Now, he's only particularly valuable because he's also made of lamb's wool, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
rather than anything else - very unusual, very rare. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
Peter Rabbit, which Beatrix Potter commissioned Steiff, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
because she couldn't find anybody to make a soft toy like Peter Rabbit of her drawings. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
She commissioned Steiff | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
and he's one of the first Peter Rabbits. He's got a black Steiff button in his ear... | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
-Yeah. -..um, which means he's 1905. He's very early and, I have to say, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:58 | |
-I was offered £10,000 for him. -Gosh! | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-And I couldn't sell him, because I was given him. -Yes. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
This is a collection of Quentin Crisp. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
Tell me what do you think of when you think of Quentin Crisp? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Well, he was my uncle, so I... | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
you know, I have family recollections of him, but he was an amazing person because he always... | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
stood up for his own principles, in spite of everything. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
And he was a very talented, clever man, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
he was an artist, he was a writer and a raconteur. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
To me, I associate him with the period in the '70s when he made... | 0:23:31 | 0:23:37 | |
when a film was made of this book - The Naked Civil Servant - | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-for which he's very well known. -Yes. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
And inside, he's inscribed it to you. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-Yeah. -And up here we've got this lovely etching of him, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
in a characteristic pose, I think. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
-Something of a dandy, wasn't he? -Absolutely, yes. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
And very precise about the way he wanted to present himself. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
-Oh, yes. -Lovely, lovely detail on this. And tell me about this one. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
Well, this one he did for my mother and it must have been in the 1930s | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
and he gave it to her for a Christmas present, I think, one year. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
But the lovely thing to me, is that it's very 1930s... | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
-Absolutely, isn't it? -..in style, as is the dog. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
-That was my dog when I was little, he was called Walker. -Walker. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
He was a mongrel. He drew that for me for one Christmas, I think, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
in straight lines, and I always thought it was so lovely. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
To me, he also became a public figure | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
because he was outspoken about his views about homosexuality | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
and in a way he didn't fit into the normal mould, is that right? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Oh, that's right and in New York he was completely accepted, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
but, I think, even if he'd stayed in London, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-by that time, people of his type were more accepted. -Yes. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
But when we walked with him in New York... | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
he was revered, everyone said, "Good morning, Quentin. Morning. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
"How nice to see you," you know. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
You have a lovely pile of letters here and I can hear his voice, that acerbic tone. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
"And now, I suppose," he says "you're away sitting on the prom eating a box of chocs," | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
I can hear him say "chocs", | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
"during the hols. I hope you have a jolly time and return fully refreshed." | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
-So he sent you a lot of letters? -Yes, he was a great cor... | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
He always answered letters. I was the bad correspondent, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
but if ever I wrote, I always got a letter by return of post. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
I think it's a wonderful collection, it really is stunning | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
and I get a very strong feeling of the man and his humour and his, his... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
In a way, his impishness... it's quite difficult to value | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
-because it is an entirety and to put separate values on it wouldn't work. -No. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
I think you're talking about £2,000 for the whole thing. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Yes, well I've got a lot more sort of memorabilia and things at home. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
-Have you? -Yes. -Well, it could be more because he had... | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
he lived in America...there are lots of collectors. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Thank you so much for bringing them in, it's a great collection. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
They were made by my grandfather who was a sculptor, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Charles Sargeant Jagger and... | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Fantastic, I never knew he did jewellery. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Well, not many people did, I think. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Before the First World War, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
his work was quite soft and like this, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
and then he, through his experience in the war, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:17 | |
his work changed completely and... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
You mention the war, because you know, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
now you've mentioned his name, Charles Sargeant Jagger, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
I'm sure most people that have heard that name will be aware of | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
his wonderful sculpture for war memorials. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
-This involvement in the war obviously gave him that sort of eye and passion to represent it in some way. -Yes. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:38 | |
There's a wonderful memorial at Hyde Park Corner. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Um, fantastically well known model of a soldier at Paddington Station | 0:26:42 | 0:26:49 | |
and some people probably walk past that statue, rushing to get a train home | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
without really appreciating how, how important it is. So with all that knowledge of his sculpture | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
I'm absolutely, you know, amazed that these jewellery pieces are by him. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
These are just superb... | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
It's just this lovely delicate ring, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-we have a little moonstone, little conical sort of moonstone... -Yes. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
with little leaves and typically - Arts and Crafts this would be called. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
Did he used to have a little workshop somewhere? | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
I don't know, all I know is | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
that his wife gave up her career as a concert singer | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
to also make jewellery. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
-I say. -And I believe that she made the other ring. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
-This might be by his wife? -I think so. -It's not as delicate as the other one. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
-No. -And this... I'm not entirely sure whether this is a stone of some sort like a jasper | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
or it could almost be a piece of ceramic. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
-This piece would be by him as well, no doubt, wouldn't it? -Yes. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
-I mean this is just wonderful. -I guess that he made that for her. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
She was also a psychic | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
and, and whether there's any connection with the crystal ball, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
because she had a crystal ball that she used to read. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
-So this is a miniature crystal ball. -I'd like to think that. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
-Nice if she could see into the future with that. -Yes. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
It's lovely the way this, this rose, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
this very simple rose with leaves and such on it, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
and then this lovely, lovely drop hanging from it. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
-Mm. -Wonderful! | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Have you ever thought about what value these would be? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Well, I've wondered, I mean... | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
I don't want to sell them, but... | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
I certainly understand that. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
Yes, but I'm interested to know, you know. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
-I mean this ring might be by his wife you said, didn't you? -Yes. Mm. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
I'd have thought that might be £300 - £500, something like that perhaps. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
-Gosh, mm. -This one, which is beautiful, and being by him, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
-I'd have thought that one might be £700 or £800 perhaps, that one. -Yes. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:42 | |
And this piece, I'd have thought might be £1,500, £2,000... | 0:28:42 | 0:28:48 | |
I'm pleased you brought them, thank you. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Oh, thank you. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
It was loved at some time because it's all been mended with a lovely set of rivets, joining it together. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
-Look at those rivets, John. -Yes. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
I love riveted things, I find them fascinating. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
It kept the pot together, otherwise it could have been thrown away... | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
before they had fine glues they used to use rivets. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
I don't think we ever saw... you never saw a riveter at work, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
but he used to come up Grandpa's street. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
And Grandpa would bring out the pots and, um, and he had a treadle on his bicycle. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
Treadled away and drilled little tiny holes either side of the crack, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
and then he had a hot box in front of him, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
took out metal wires, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
put them into the holes and pulled them together and as they cooled, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
they clamped the piece shut. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:34 | |
And there it is, as perfect as the day it was riveted... | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
I...probably a hundred, two hundred years ago, those rivets. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
But would you leave those rivets alone? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
I mean modern restoration could hide that damage invisibly. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
I'd leave the rivets, they're part of its life. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-You've always loved rivets, haven't you? -Some of my favourite pots are riveted. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
CROWD LAUGHS | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
Underneath the damage, you've got a splendid bit of Chinese porcelain | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
and quite a rare shape and displayed properly clean... | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
-a couple of hundred pounds, isn't it? -The rivets cost about sixpence each. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
-They belonged to my father. -Right. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
And I believe that he inherited them from his father | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
because my grandfather, in the early part of the 20th century, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
was an avid collector. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
-Right. -And went to auction sales almost weekly | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
and after my grandfather died, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
which was 1966, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
my grandmother tried to dispense things that he had acquired... | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
-Scattering it... -..throughout the family. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
Eventually, there was a load left that went to sale | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
and I think this was something that my father took. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
-So it came to your father? -It came to my father. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Right, there's a lot of sort of mythology about scrimshaw, I love it | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
because I think there is this basis of accuracy about the stories, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
which is that pieces were made by sailors in their idle moments. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
Now, a lot of it is fake. Another mass of it has been decorated later. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:06 | |
You can find an early tooth, there's nothing to stop you engraving a scene on now. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
And you get many pieces which have simply far too much going on, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
there's the name of the ship, there's a whale hunt, er, there's a date, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
there's flags and bells and the whole thing's over the top. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
These are fantastic because they're simple, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
there's no... you can see these have been done very early indeed. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
We're early in the 19th century | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
and they have a primitiveness that I think has enormous appeal. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:35 | |
Many of the subjects, as you can see here on this piece, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
and here, are sort of from popular imagery. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
The sailor didn't sit thinking, "Oh, I'll do Britannia." | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
-No. -He had something to copy, so this piece represents that tradition | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
-and in fact there's a walrus about to be slaughtered there. -Yes. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
Some of these come from the same popular imagery as a Staffordshire figure. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
That's the same date probably as a Staffordshire pottery figure, the 1840s, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
-and the popular imagery is from a similar printed source. -Right. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
So that in a sense is, is very nice, but what one would expect. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
I mean this is the one that I find particularly exciting, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
those images I'm used to... | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
This is quite different because you've got these primitive matchstick men... | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
it's really very crude. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
You've got people in boats, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
you've got all sorts of things going on, these very, very crude ships. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
These could be earlier. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
-We could be going back to the 1820s with this. -Really? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
The other thing is, what is it? | 0:32:34 | 0:32:35 | |
Now this is probably a stay busk and this is what sailors gave their girls | 0:32:35 | 0:32:42 | |
and it was inserted into their stays and so it had intimate contact. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
-Oh. -So it was like a love token. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
So you sat there out in the Arctic North carving away, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
then you rushed home and you gave it to your girl, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
-who immediately plunged it... -It would be near your sweetheart's heart. -Exactly. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
So that's what that is. They are expensive these things, there is no doubt. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
I mean a group like this is going to be... | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
£2,000, something like that. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
That really is amazing. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
-Where did you dig this thing up? -In my back garden. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
I think it's extraordinary, and where is your back garden? | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
It's in a farmhouse on the edge of Dartmoor. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
So this you found in Dartmoor? | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
-On Dartmoor, yes. -On Dartmoor. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
-In the garden... -It's what's called a char dish for potted fish, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
-and they were made in Lancashire. -Oh! | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
It was this, the char dish generally is made in the Liverpool area, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:42 | |
either in delft or in this case, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I think in pearlware which is a slightly blue glazed earthenware. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
-Yes. -But an exciting thing of discovering a 1790s dish like this, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
-in your garden, it's amazing. -Yes. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
I think you should do some more digging. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
I mean I'm afraid the condition is poor, but you could have it tidied up | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
and it would then be worth £200 or £300... | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
-But you didn't dig this up? -No I didn't dig that up. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
That belonged to my grandfather and then passed down to my parents | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
and eventually came to me. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
It used to frighten me because of the face of the monkey. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-I think he's quite benign. -Well, I didn't when I was four. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
Oh, I see, yes, yes, yes. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
Er, this was made in China in 1760-1770. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
Oh, as early as that? | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Yes, for export to Europe, er, and they normally come in twos. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:36 | |
Yes, I've got another one. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
And what's the condition of the other one? | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
The other one has a broken arm. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:42 | |
The arm that is clasping in the front, the elbow's missing. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
-Actually missing? -Yes. -That's a great pity. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
People love them because they're really quite zany animals, aren't they? | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
-Yes. -They have a naive charm. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Slightly curious that they both face the same way. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
It would be better if they didn't, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
and if they both face different ways they will be worth more than they are now, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
-which is still about £3,000 - for the two of them. -Good grief! | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
And now we come to the third element of this wonderful group. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
This is made of enamel, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
enamel on copper and, of course, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
the great centre for making these pieces was Limoges. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-Yes. -And this is a 16th-century piece, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
down there it says, "Aoust" - August. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
It's lost, it's lost the "s" nowadays in French | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
because they put a circumflex on the top, don't they? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
-Yes. -Er, its surface is a bit mucky | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
and it's suffered a little bit round the edge, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
but it is basically in very nice condition. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
These were very much collector's pieces that they had in their cabinets. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
So we've got August with the harvest going on, these are very expensive. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:03 | |
This one, as I say, is a bit nibbled round the edge, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
but I still think you're looking at... | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
£2,000 or £3,000 for this as well. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
-Yes, well, well, well. -So... | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
What an amazing gamut of things, I mean, brilliant! | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
Is it something you've had a while or not? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
Um, about three and half years, since my grandfather died. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
-So he left it to you? -That's right. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
-And you've done nothing to it because... -No. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
..it's fairly... I won't use the word "rough" | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
because that sounds rude, but it's in untouched condition. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
Do you have it going at home? | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Er, no, no, we don't. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
So do you know what sort of date it is? | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Well, um, we have had it valued back in '91 | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
and my understanding was that it was approximately 1780. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
I think that's a pretty good guess, give or take five years. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
Here we are, signed by William Allam of London who was a very nice maker, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:03 | |
made some superb watches and also good English bracket clocks. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
He started work in the 1740s right through until about the 1780s. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
We've got twin subsidiaries, one is fairly obviously strike | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
and silent to switch off the strike. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
And do you know what this one here is? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
No, not really, no. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
It sort of goes from zero to 60, some people might be tempted to think it's seconds. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
It's not, it's actually, it's what we call a rise and fall | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
that works on a cam that lifts the pendulum up and down. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
We've got the mock pendulum here and I'll show you how that works. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
Literally like this, now... Oh, gosh, why have you... | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
why have you got this paper in here? | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
I put that wadding in to keep that pendulum from swinging about | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
because it was knocking in the car. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
-Look, here's the pendulum lock, so you just pop it in there. -Oh, right. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
That's it, it's rigid and you can move the clock, it's locked there for ever. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
-Fantastic, yeah. -But if I release that, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
and then I can show you just by moving the pendulum | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
how that mock pendulum is working now | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
and do you see there it's just swinging within that aperture? | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
Right, yeah. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
And that meant in the old days | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
that if it was sitting on a table or a mantelpiece, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
you could see at a glance that it was running. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
-Right. -So there we are... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
It's, I think, a very pretty clock, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
it has an anchor escapement and, in all honesty, with that mock, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
that mock pendulum, it is more likely that it was verge | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
and it's been converted to anchor. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
The case is what we call an inverted bell top | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
and it's ebony-veneered, it's not too big, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
-you know the joy of these bracket clocks is the small size. -Yeah. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
If it was significantly bigger, it would be less value. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
So what was the valuation that you mentioned in 1991? | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
I believe it was just over £2,000. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
Right, so what do you reckon it could be today? | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Um, possibly £2,500 maybe £3,000, tops, I would imagine. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Well, I think you'll be pretty pleased because in this state, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
at auction it would make between £5,000 and £6,000. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
-Right. -And in full retail condition, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
I could see it retailing for just over £10,000. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
Wow. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
This is a wonderful and very grand piece of furniture. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
It's a side cabinet of a form that's known in France as a meuble d'appui - | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
-a side cabinet. -Oh, right. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
It looks as though it's fallen straight out of a French palace. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Can you tell me anything about it, how you came by it? | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
Well, basically it was in the house when my father-in-law bought it, back in 1958. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:39 | |
And an antique collector had lived there for several years, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
he died and we just kept it and then my mother-in-law, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
back in 1980, brought down this copy | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
and she said, "There, it looks identical," | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
and it was in the Palace of Monaco. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
So it did come out of a nearly French palace. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
But we really didn't know anything about it... | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
other than we thought it's obviously a copy. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
But then a few years back, on Christmas Eve, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
um, I was taking some glasses out of it and the hinges were broken on this side | 0:40:09 | 0:40:15 | |
and as I opened the door, the other side, this door fell out, there was a newspaper in French... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
-Yes. -..behind the door. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
So we took it to someone and they translated it, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
we read a bit about it, but it appeared | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
that there were two made for the French Exhibition in 1851. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
Are you sure it's 1851 or is it 1855? | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
It might have been 1855, I know it was the 1850s. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
There was an exhibition in Paris in 1855 and that's exactly the period of this piece. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
-Really. -So it's quite feasible. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
When I was working in France, South of France, I went to Monaco, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
to actually go and see the piece that was in the palace there | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
and you can see it in the postcard there. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
-Fascinating, yes, absolutely. -And I asked them for some information about it... | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
which they weren't very forthcoming with... | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
but on the historical tour, on the headset, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
they talked about a Japanese piece with some semi-precious stones. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
So whether that one is Japanese and then this was a French copy | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
made of it for the Exhibition, we don't know. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
-We're hoping you can tell us some more. -OK, not Japanese... | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
I'm not sure where that came from. Um, it's, it is French. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
It's in Napoleon III style. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
It very likely dates from precisely when you said, from the 1850s. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
In style, it owes to earlier French furniture, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
things from the late 17th century, made in the Gobelin factory in Paris. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:47 | |
Designs by people like Andre Charles Boulle who was a cabinet maker to Louis Quatorze, to Louis XIV. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:53 | |
And there are many features on this which you actually find on 17th and early 18th-century furniture. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:59 | |
This, however, is made, as I said, in the mid-19th century | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
and I think it is undoubtedly made by the same cabinet maker as this piece | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
that's in Monte Carlo, um... | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
That one's in a lot better condition, very shiny as against this one. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
With all the bits fallen off... | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
We can come onto the condition questions with this, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
you obviously have lost quite a lot of the hard stones. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
We've got a few of them at home. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
Keep them and they can be re-applied. It can certainly be restored. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
The mounts here are absolutely comparable to the ones you find on 18th-century furniture. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:35 | |
It's got a wooden top and one would expect this to have a marble top - | 0:42:35 | 0:42:41 | |
a thick marble slab. And I notice... | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
-I think that one did. -Looking at this one, it's got mottling on, that's missing, that can be replaced, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:49 | |
but it would undoubtedly benefit from a considerable amount of tender loving care. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:54 | |
It's just, it's looking a little sad and if you can imagine it just brought back. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
Er, the little bits of brass inlay that are lifting at the side, that I noticed, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:04 | |
-the bits of veneer are missing, if those could be returned... -Yes. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
..you would have something that looked, you know, palatial as I guessed at the beginning. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
Um, once it's restored... | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
I think it's something that really ought to be insured | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
-for something like £15,000. -Really? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
-I think in its present state, it's probably worth about half of that. -Yes, right. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:26 | |
-Thank you for bringing it in. -Thank you very much. -OK. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
And with that, I do believe we've come to the end of the road | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
for this particular season. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
We all need a fresh set of tyres. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
But for now, from Dartington Hall in Devon, goodbye. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 |