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For this week, we've abandoned the open road and climbed aboard the South Devon Railway

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which runs between Buckfastleigh and Totnes.

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We have an Art Deco carriage, plus a view of the River Dart

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as we steam our way

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towards the largest medieval house in the West of England - Dartington Hall.

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The house was built in the 1400s.

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In 1925, it became the focus of a cultural revolution and was born again.

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It was discovered by a young couple with vision, a sense of adventure

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and enough money to put their radical ideas into practice -

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Leonard and Dorothy Elmhurst.

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The son of a parson and the American daughter of a powerful politician,

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they wanted to regenerate the estate and to create a school.

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The school was to be progressive and anti-authoritarian

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with a minimum of class work and a strong bias towards the arts.

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The headmaster's accommodation, High Cross House, was an example

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of the Elmhursts' radical vision.

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A model of early modernism, it was the start of a new type of domestic design...

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..where inside and outside merged.

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Four terraces offered the head every chance to soak up the sun and fresh air,

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and, if he was so inclined, to sleep under the stars - popular with 1930s naturists.

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The Elmhursts didn't stop there.

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They gathered creative people around them by the armful.

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Michael Chekhov, who taught Marilyn Monroe, had a theatre studio here.

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Jacqueline du Pre gave her first concert at Dartington. Simon Rattle taught here.

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Henry Moore chose this spot in the garden for his reclining figure.

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Today we're all here courtesy of the Dartington Hall Trust.

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And the Antiques Roadshow is ready to receive all-comers in the medieval courtyard.

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This is your bust, sir? Or...

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This is my wife's bust.

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-It's your wife's bust.

-I'm very proud of it.

-I'm sure. I mustn't get into that territory.

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We're looking at a Victorian worthy of some kind.

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It was very characteristic of that period to present the heroes of the time as though they were Romans.

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A number of sculptors worked that way. It goes back to the 18th century, Neo-Classicism.

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You were not shown in contemporary dress, you were shown as if toga'd.

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Do you know who this is?

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-No, er, we thought for a long time that it was Sir Charles Bell.

-Right.

-Bell's Palsy.

-Yes.

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But we had a recent discovery of an oil painting of Sir Charles.

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-I don't think it is him.

-I don't think there's any parallel at all.

-No.

-So let's go down another route.

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Who is it by? Well, I'll look on the back and it's William Theed, or, "W. Theed, London 1851."

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-We know the sculptor. So that's important.

-Yes, yes.

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Theed was a very interesting figure, 1804-1891, a typical... not journeyman sculptor,

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but a very busy sculptor through the 19th century, worked for the royal family from 1844...

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Queen Victoria later,

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constantly doing busts of either classical figures or worthies of the time.

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-Now, where did it come from?

-He was bought in an auction in the 1940s, middle 1940s.

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-Where?

-We think probably in Exeter.

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-So he has a local background.

-Yes.

-So, wait a minute, by a relative?

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-Yes, my father bought him.

-To buy something like this in the 1940's was an extraordinary thing.

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I think he bought it for a specific position.

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-We had a large hallway...

-He wanted a bust.

-He just looked right there.

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As to who it is, there are two routes to go down. Have you been to the National Portrait Gallery?

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-No.

-Right, take a photograph and go in, or send it up, and say, "Who is this?"

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-Yes.

-If they know, they'll tell you. They may have paintings, they may have other versions of the bust.

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Give the Theed details and all you know.

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This is clearly a portrait of someone.

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The other route is many sculptors produced or had work reproduced

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in porcelain material called Parian, and they were made small scale, so you could get a book on that.

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Look up Theed and see what Theed's works are illustrated,

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-I bet one of those routes will produce a conclusion.

-Yes.

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I suggest, which might be slightly out of court, but there is a certain resem... Come down a bit.

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-I'm getting quite like him.

-I think...

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-A couple of years and you'll be there. Perhaps that's what it was.

-Great classical man.

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Exactly. Obviously you've no idea what your father paid for it, no?

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-No.

-20 years ago these were knocked out in sales for £2-300.

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Really garden, stairwell ornaments.

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Theed is a pretty good name and I would expect this now to fetch somewhere between

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£4-6,000 but that's dependent very much on the identity.

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If you can say, "It's so and so," that makes it much more appealing.

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That's lovely, very pleasing. Thank you, that's very kind of you.

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A neighbour got my father's newspaper,

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and she came on hard times and her husband was a military man,

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from military background, and she asked him to lend her some money, which in those days was £10.

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-An awful lot of money.

-"Those days"? How long ago are we talking about?

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-60 years.

-Right, OK.

-I know that it was two weeks of my father's wages.

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-Right.

-He kept them in lieu of this £10.

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And then she come over one day and said, "I can't pay you the money back, will you keep the cufflinks?"

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"No, they're a family heirloom, you should have them back." But she was just too proud.

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So, that was how it come in the family.

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First of all, let's just talk about what we've got.

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We've got a blue sort of enamel border going round the outside.

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In the centre surround, you've got mother of pearl. Diamonds form a tiny little letter G.

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And a diamond fleur de lys, that's the clue, the fleur de lys motif, and then almost

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to sort of ram the point home here, about the potential with the Prince of Wales feathers is that you've got

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little crowns, surmounts, above, so you know you look at these things, you think, "well, just a minute...

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"Prince of Wales feathers, the monogram letter G - this has to be connected with royalty."

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That's why I'm interested to know whether the person, the source of these,

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was connected with the house, the royal household, or was there any...?

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-He was in the Coldstream Guards.

-Well, that's all we know about him?

-Yeah.

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Well, I think if it's G,

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it's George, and with the Prince of Wales plumes,

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you're looking at George before he became king.

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So when he was Prince of Wales, so the year is

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probably around about, say, 1905-1910.

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Often, um, well-respected people who've done a particular service

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for a member of the royalty,

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would be given a gift, and I think that these were a personal gift

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from George, when he was still Prince of Wales, to this gentleman.

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They're extremely well made - you've got one little tiny diamond missing just there - apart from that

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they're absolutely pristine, and they're mounted in high-carat gold.

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Look at the bright yellow gold,

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look at the quality there, super gold frames with individual little sort of hand links between.

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So we can date them accurately, we know what they're set with.

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We look at how collectable they are because there are people

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that collect cufflinks, and people that collect royal memorabilia.

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-Right.

-They're not easy to value because they're a one-off pair.

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-So I wouldn't be surprised that they might be as much as £3,500 in the retail shop market.

-Very nice.

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-I inherited it.

-You inherited it?

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That's all I can tell you - I don't know. My parents had it for many years, I don't know more than that.

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Well, as you can see, it's signed here by a German artist called Rudolph Gustav Muller.

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-Yes.

-And it's dated 1886 - Muller was born in 1858 and died

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30 years later in 1888 so it's a late work.

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-Wow.

-We know he travelled to Tunisia and to Algeria.

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-Yes.

-So I guess this is probably something painted from that area.

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-Right.

-But because it's dated 1886, it's almost certainly painted back in his studio in Munich.

-Right.

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And so it's a sort of perhaps make-believe at the same time,

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but this whole market is fascinating because after September 11th

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and the horrors of the attack on the Twin Towers, the whole of this market,

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the Orientalist market, collapsed - no-one was interested in this subject matter.

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But after 18 months, the market recovered

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and people started buying, again, this wonderful subject matter.

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I love these artists - although they're not that well-known, we have fantastic detail here.

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-Look at the tiling on this gateway.

-Incredible.

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-And again on the dome here.

-Yeah.

-I mean, the quality cannot be faulted and also it's topped off

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with this beautiful frame which is an arabesque frame.

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-Yes.

-So beautiful and works with the picture so well.

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I think it's wonderful, yeah.

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I like the wood panel which gives it a sort of nice slick feeling.

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-Yes.

-Um, and again I just...

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I often feel that people don't look at pictures properly.

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-Yeah, so much detail.

-There is. I love this man.

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-Is he looking at his belt?

-Yes, yes.

-Are they trading? It's lovely.

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And the carpet, it's a real eye-opener.

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Something like this is always going to be desirable.

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There have been extremely high prices for the artist, but on a bigger format.

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-I'd say about £15,000.

-Blimey!

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That's weird, isn't it?

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Amazing.

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It's very, very nice. Thank you so much.

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This is an extraordinary Doulton Lambeth pot, decorated by Eliza Simmance.

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I've been puzzling what the Dickens you do with it.

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It's got all these holes around here, but what do you do with the pot?

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-I imagine you use it for canes.

-And sticks and parasols or something like that.

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-What else could you use it for?

-Any ideas, anybody?

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-Umbrella stand? Possibly. Made in 1883.

-Yes.

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Wonderful. I think the stand is marvellous, made for the pot.

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-And you've had this a long time?

-I've had it in the attic nigh on 40 years.

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-In the attic?

-In the attic. It belonged to my wife's grandfather.

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-Yes.

-Who came from Hertfordshire and he bought it in the market in London.

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Yes, these things were found in London markets you know.

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You got up early and you went with a torch and you found these things.

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Wonderful. Oh, I think it's great. So that's Eliza Simmance, 1883.

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-Yes.

-This big pot here.

-The big one.

-Marvellous.

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Hannah Barlow did this wonderful incised work.

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She had a marvellous skill depicting animals,

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carved out of wet clay with little incised tooling.

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She drew animals, all sorts - she had a great love of animals.

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She had a zoo with strange animals.

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And all the other work... Beautifully done, isn't it?

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1884 and absolutely marvellous.

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Hannah Barlow's work is tremendously valuable nowadays.

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That's going to be about £1,000, so it's jolly nice.

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-I don't know what grandfather paid for it.

-Not much.

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-Not much, no, and there's been a little pup, a little baby.

-Yes.

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Which one's going first? Well, that's sweet, isn't it?

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That's dated 1884, 1884, similar body to this one, so perhaps that's had

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a little baby and it's going to be worth around about £60-£70.

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Right.

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But the big chap, we've got to be looking here again, at £1,000,

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and perhaps even more for the stand - the stand is fantastic.

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Obviously made to fit the pot. Keep them together.

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-Yes.

-And put your canes in it with great care.

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-Thank you.

-Wonderful thing.

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This is a long case clock. Richard Lear, Pinhey and Plymouth Dock.

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Are you a Plymouth man or not?

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I come from about 15 miles away. It's always been within the area.

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Today is the furthest it's been from where it was made.

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It is a terribly pretty dial.

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Overall, the thing's in what I call a fairly rough condition, but I mean, let's just have a look at this.

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We've got the wonderful dial centre here,

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a little smoking chimney and we've got the sea and sunset there,

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And then we've got the calendar sector at the bottom, and then just underneath the 12, the seconds dial.

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If that was all silvered, as originally,

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it would look absolutely stonking good, and if you left it brass and re-silvered the chaptering,

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that would be lovely and then up here, we've got Richard Lear's signature from Plymouth Dock.

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From memory and just looking at the clock, we're talking about sort of 1775-1780 - that sort of date.

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I'll look at the movement.

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Gosh, it's a heavy old hood, I have to say. Have a look at that.

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The immediate thing that comes to mind here is that the seat board has been replaced.

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It's a very new bit of wood. Did you do that?

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It was done by my uncle who owned it before us. I think it was 1977.

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That's a sort of slightly sloppy repair.

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A very thin bit of seat board and the dial is sitting too low

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within the aperture of the hood, so it could do with a bigger seat board to just bring it up.

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-And this thing really has been working, has it?

-It has. Not continually.

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-Special occasions.

-Well, look at all these cobwebs.

-Oh, yes.

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There's three dead spiders. I don't think that's been cleaned for years.

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-No.

-you mentioned the 1970's...

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That was the last time anybody's even looked at it.

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I'll just simulate if the pendulum was on... That lovely moving ship.

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It's a very pretty dial, very pretty clock, and let's look at the trunk.

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You've got a nice, very accentuated arched door,

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this dentil cornice here and rather nice fluted canted corners.

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Be honest with me - what have you done to this case?

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Nothing. I've had it 15 years and prior to that it was my uncle's, and prior to that my great aunt's.

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-You didn't put this horrible varnish on it?

-No, no, no.

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What a shame because if that was all stripped off,

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you'd get down to the lovely original mahogany.

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It would look so much better.

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I think it's got a lot of potential.

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-What would you pay to replace that? An absolute minimum of £6,500.

-Really?

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-Thanks.

-Thank you very much.

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A question that's always being asked is - does television affect the behaviour of young people?

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This lady was so impressed by what she saw

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that she became a fanatical collector - Lynsey Kent.

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What was the magic moment for you?

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Arthur Negus, Going For A Song. I was watching it with my grandmother who was a mad fan.

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Once he had a doll, just like this little one, on the programme.

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He said you could find out who made them and where they came from.

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-How many have you got now?

-There's about 900 catalogued.

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So you're a collector and you're a doll doctor as well, aren't you?

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Well, if you'd seen this one about six weeks ago.

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She came home from an auction in 12 pieces.

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-I put her back together again.

-Who makes the most dolls in the world?

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The Germans were the most prolific, the French made the best quality.

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French dolls are the most expensive and the most beautiful.

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-What's the most you've ever spent on a French doll?

-Um, about £800.

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For a long time this one was my most expensive doll.

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I had to get a bank loan for her.

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-That's handy - you work in a bank.

-I had to ask my boss!

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He's used to people borrowing money for cars, but not for buying dolls!

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-It was worth it.

-She's beautiful.

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She's German, made by the firm of Simon & Halbig.

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Bunny, what about this lot? What do you think?

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I love your story, what a great collection, and you've got 900.

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What do you find the most exciting?

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Well, I love Betty Oxo. Tell us the story about Betty Oxo.

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Betty Oxo was sold by the Oxo company and to get her, you had to save up Oxo coupons.

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You had to save 480 and according to the Little Children's Newspaper

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that they produced in 1925, you saved them between January and April, so I reckon

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they'd eat Oxo cubes every meal to get enough coupons for a free doll.

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But she is very sweet. She's got such a cute face.

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-She's lovely.

-But it's a very expensive hobby?

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It is and I think you've done it at the right time.

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It's a very expensive field, so if you are going to start,

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go to an auction, get an idea and... Don't you agree with me?

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I do. Or if you're prepared to take one that's a bit less than perfect and give it a little bit of TLC.

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-You have something to be proud of.

-Right.

-Well, congratulations.

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-Thank you very much.

-Yes, congratulations.

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If you bring furniture outside, it shows up things you don't want to see.

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But with this, you can see what a beautiful cut of mahogany you've got.

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Lovely figuring, a very good colour, a little bit dry.

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Beeswax would warm it up a bit, but it's really in a very lovely natural and unspoilt state.

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Now, is this something that you've owned for a long time?

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It was given to me when I came back from boarding school, already...

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1957, I think it was. I've lived with it ever since.

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It dates from the first part of the 19th century, probably the 1830s.

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Stylistically, it's what's known as Biedermeier,

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a term invented mid-19th century

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by a man called Eichrodt, and he invented this character Biedermeier

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who really summed up the bourgeois European, and it's a style of furniture

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that derives from Empire furniture,

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the sort of courtly furniture in Paris, in Vienna, in Berlin

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in the 1805, 1810, 1815 period.

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Then later in the 19th century, you get this more simplified version.

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And there really are two features which give it particular character.

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One is the beautiful timber,

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this really lovely shape here, and this arcade underneath here.

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Do you have any idea where it might have come from?

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-Its country of origin?

-None, I've had lots of opinions but nothing that I would rely on.

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I think stylistically, German rather than French or Austrian,

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and let's just look and see what it looks like inside.

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It's got a lovely counterbalanced weight

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so this supports itself - I imagine it's got some sort of weight system.

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At one time, I was told, because I was worried about the leverage...

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-Yes.

-That in fact it's agricultural engineering at the back.

-Absolutely! No, that's absolutely right.

-Right.

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-Sadly - and this often happens - it's cracked here.

-Yes.

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From the structure underneath, and that can be restored. I mean, it so often happens.

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and what's lovely... When we open it, it's got this beautiful, again, very architectural interior,

0:24:360:24:41

but quite simple. It's a "schreibschrank", a writing desk. Um...

0:24:410:24:47

You've got a replacement handle here, but the original ivory knobs there

0:24:470:24:51

I would also think that these handles here have been replaced.

0:24:510:24:55

These escutcheons are probably original. And it's nice the way that the little mask covers the keyhole.

0:24:550:25:01

So a very handsome bit of 1830s furniture.

0:25:010:25:04

Something that I think appeals as much to contemporary taste as it did at the time.

0:25:040:25:09

very good in a simple interior, in a small apartment or small house,

0:25:090:25:13

and would work very well with contemporary things as well as with older things.

0:25:130:25:18

-Well, I think today it's something that one should certainly think of insuring for £4,500.

-Right.

0:25:180:25:24

It's a very beautiful piece of furniture and in a lovely state.

0:25:240:25:28

All I would simply want to do is just put a little bit of beeswax on that, just to bring a bit more lustre up.

0:25:280:25:34

-Yes.

-Thank you for bringing it. Beautiful

-Thank you!

0:25:340:25:37

-AMERICAN WOMAN:

-When I moved here 40 years ago,

0:25:390:25:42

my mother gradually thought it would be awfully nice if some of these pieces were here,

0:25:420:25:47

so she stuck one in her purse each time she flew over.

0:25:470:25:50

And brought them. Well, from your accent I can tell you're American,

0:25:500:25:54

so it seems appropriate you should bring in some American art glass.

0:25:540:25:57

-Well, as you know, obviously, they're from the Tiffany studios.

-Yes.

0:25:570:26:01

And Louis Comfort Tiffany, the founder of the company,

0:26:010:26:05

patented the idea of making iridescent glass in about 1880.

0:26:050:26:10

And these goldy colours - I think they used gold chloride as the main sort of chemical, if you will,

0:26:100:26:16

-to give this golden iridescence...

-Didn't know that.

-So...

0:26:160:26:21

the golden colour is probably the most common because it was the most popular, probably, at the time,

0:26:210:26:27

and consequently lots was made. This is, on the surface, quite a standard-looking bowl,

0:26:270:26:32

but what's quite nice about this,

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and makes it slightly different,

0:26:340:26:36

is that, instead of just the iridescence,

0:26:360:26:39

there's added decoration engraved into that surface.

0:26:390:26:43

So it removes the iridescence, but it gives this leaf detail

0:26:430:26:47

which stands out in sort of visual relief against the shiny surface.

0:26:470:26:51

-I mean, sadly, having been used... I don't know whether a plant pot was ever inside this.

-I hope not.

0:26:510:26:57

But it's taken all the iridescence away on the inside, so that will reduce its value, unfortunately,

0:26:570:27:03

but it's still a nice, interesting piece. This piece in the front is...

0:27:030:27:07

it's a lovely little piece.

0:27:070:27:10

It's amazing to think it was just a salt...a utilitarian little piece.

0:27:100:27:14

There's a sort of bluey tint to this one which...

0:27:140:27:18

which adds another sort of dimension to its appeal.

0:27:180:27:22

But this piece, while being just golden iridescence again,

0:27:220:27:27

and a very common colour, this piece is really enhanced beautifully.

0:27:270:27:31

I mean this transcends being just a simple vase

0:27:310:27:35

to a little gem, quite honestly,

0:27:350:27:37

And you've got these little leaves inlaid into it. So these...

0:27:370:27:42

These take up the iridescent colour as well. They're like a creeper,

0:27:420:27:48

And these little stems all extend down over the base,

0:27:480:27:52

and some extend up the neck.

0:27:520:27:53

So a lot more work's gone into this

0:27:530:27:55

and it makes it that much more desirable than perhaps a relatively ordinary golden iridescent piece.

0:27:550:28:03

You've got "LC Tiffany", Louis Comfort Tiffany, "Inc"

0:28:030:28:09

and then "favrile", that's a name...

0:28:090:28:11

a name that he used, implies that it was hand-made.

0:28:110:28:14

And then the numbers around the top, they'd indicate,

0:28:140:28:19

with a suffix at the end, a date that it was manufactured. I'd have thought it would be about 1900 or so.

0:28:190:28:26

Price-wise, that is obviously going to be the most valuable,

0:28:260:28:30

This is a nice piece, but with the damage or wear on the inside I'd have thought, no,

0:28:300:28:36

it might be somewhere broadly between about £100 and £200 because of that.

0:28:360:28:41

This little salt - while only being a simple object -

0:28:410:28:45

I would have thought perhaps it might be £200 or £300.

0:28:450:28:49

But I'd have thought this piece, the gem of the crop, so to speak,

0:28:490:28:54

would be perhaps £1,000, £1,500, something of that order.

0:28:540:28:59

-How wonderful.

-It's a lovely piece. And I'm really pleased to see it.

0:28:590:29:03

-Thank you so much.

-Thank you.

-Really enjoyed it.

0:29:030:29:05

-Can you read that for me?

-"Do all the good you can, in every way you can..."

0:29:050:29:10

-Now, you can't read that?

-No, because that's not how it's writ,

0:29:100:29:15

It's, "Do all tha gude you cann in every wey."

0:29:150:29:20

-The spelling is... I think spellcheck on your computer wouldn't like that would it?

-No.

0:29:200:29:25

-No, I mean, way spelled W-E-Y, yeah.

-That's right.

0:29:250:29:28

-My husband was given a print when he left as captain of his old cricket club.

-Right.

0:29:280:29:33

And that started off a collection which, um...grew.

0:29:330:29:38

-and we started to buy things like this lovely urn.

-But he's not here today?

0:29:380:29:43

-No. I'm afraid the Test Match won over Antiques Roadshow.

-So he's gone to watch the Test Match?

-Yes, he has.

0:29:430:29:50

Excellent. And I see you're wearing a cricketing medallion. That's part of your collection, is it?

0:29:500:29:55

Well, it is. In fact...

0:29:550:29:57

the cricket bat I added. But that is nice because it's got a picture

0:29:570:30:01

of, I think, somebody who was a cricketer.

0:30:010:30:04

I don't know who they are, but I bought it cos I liked it.

0:30:040:30:08

Excellent, well let's have a look at this lead planter or jardiniere.

0:30:080:30:12

Obviously, as you say, you bought it because of the cricket association. If we start with the base,

0:30:120:30:17

we see here a little medallion with crossed cricket bats and a ball.

0:30:170:30:21

And similarly, above, larger crossed cricket bats

0:30:210:30:24

and then if we go up to the jardiniere itself, a batsman with the wicket keeper behind

0:30:240:30:30

And on either side are the pieces de resistance...

0:30:310:30:36

two medallions of WG Grace.

0:30:360:30:38

In his day, he was reckoned to be one of the two most famous Englishmen,

0:30:380:30:42

him and another "WG", William Gladstone, four times Prime Minister,

0:30:420:30:47

And certainly he's the only cricketer who is known by his initials alone.

0:30:470:30:51

So you bought it how long ago, this planter?

0:30:510:30:55

I think it was about mid-80s.

0:30:550:30:57

-Right.

-I bought it at a sale. I saw it right at the end of the auction and I thought, "That's for me".

0:30:570:31:04

-Can I ask what you paid for it 20 years ago?

-I think it's about £75, I can't really remember.

0:31:040:31:11

Yes. Well, I would think that was a very good buy, because the interest in cricketana has grown enormously

0:31:110:31:18

over the past quarter of a century, and I would think, if this came up at auction today,

0:31:180:31:23

-I would probably expect it to fetch between £1,000 and £1,500.

-Really? I am surprised.

-Yes.

0:31:230:31:29

Here you are, Henry, extract from a letter to Leonard and Dorothy Elmhurst dated 1942...

0:31:290:31:35

"The tier pot I hope you may use for butter, marmalade, jam

0:31:350:31:40

"by your bedside some lazy - if you ever have such - or cheerless morning." signed Bernard Leach.

0:31:400:31:46

Yes, this is the pot! It's a wonderful little pot, very much in the Japanese style.

0:31:460:31:51

Bernard Leach of St Ives came here to Dartington on a number of occasions.

0:31:510:31:55

he intended to start his pottery here, but didn't - chickened out and went to St. Ives instead.

0:31:550:32:01

But made these pots in the style of Japanese...

0:32:010:32:05

It's like a Japanese set of pots.

0:32:050:32:08

A little cover, take off. Single one, middle one and big one at the bottom.

0:32:080:32:12

Decorated with little tiny fish,

0:32:120:32:15

little fish swimming round like mad.

0:32:150:32:18

-I think it's a fascinating little piece.

-Lovely colour too.

-Lovely. Signed under the bottom. "BL"

0:32:180:32:22

for Bernard Leach. And the St Ives mark, there it is,

0:32:220:32:26

It's all authentic, and a super little pot by the grandfather of English pottery.

0:32:260:32:31

-I mean, all his family pot. And they're wonderful.

-Historic piece.

-Historic piece.

0:32:310:32:35

-Would you put a value on that?

-Yes. Well, if it wasn't provenanced,

0:32:350:32:40

if it was just a Bernard Leach piece, it would still be important -

0:32:400:32:44

Perhaps £1,250 to £1,500. But being provenanced as coming directly from Bernard to the Elmhursts

0:32:440:32:51

and from the Elmhursts now to a friend...

0:32:510:32:55

I think it's...well, not priceless,

0:32:550:32:57

but it's got to be around about £2,000.

0:32:570:33:01

I always have this little quote

0:33:020:33:03

that "a pretty little box", in the clock and watch trade, means something very sweet inside,

0:33:030:33:08

and we are not wrong with this, are we?

0:33:080:33:11

Isn't that charming? What do you know about this? How long have you had it?

0:33:110:33:16

When my mother was moving house from a bigger house to a smaller house,

0:33:160:33:20

she asked me if there was anything I would like, and I happened to remember the little clock.

0:33:200:33:24

-That's what I chose.

-If I can say so, madam, that was very generous.

0:33:240:33:29

This is very, very sweet.

0:33:290:33:31

-You probably know that it's solid silver.

-Yes.

-There we go.

0:33:310:33:35

And here we are, we've got a full set of marks on the bottom. "Sterling".

0:33:350:33:39

And it also says "argent", and it also has a Swiss mark for 935.

0:33:390:33:44

So - solid silver

0:33:440:33:46

and lovely enamel over this machined background.

0:33:460:33:51

You've got that sort of translucent enamel over the guilloche back.

0:33:510:33:56

And let's have a look indoors!

0:33:560:33:58

Isn't that pretty? And we've got it going now, but do you ever have it going at home?

0:33:580:34:03

I did have it going originally,

0:34:030:34:05

and we actually had it mended at one stage for one reason or another.

0:34:050:34:09

And then, when it stopped I went to wind it, and turned the key,

0:34:090:34:14

and it appeared to me as though it wouldn't move, it was over-wound,

0:34:140:34:18

so I put it back in the cupboard quickly and hid it before I did any more damage.

0:34:180:34:23

Well, listen with all these little boxes, as you know, the keys are usually kept in the back...like that.

0:34:230:34:28

-We remove that panel, and look at that, the original key sitting there. That's the one you used?

-It was.

0:34:280:34:33

So why couldn't you get it to work?

0:34:330:34:36

-Because...I bet you were trying to wind it clockwise, weren't you?

-I was, being logical...

0:34:360:34:41

-Yup. Anti-clockwise...

-It works!

-Goes like a little dream.

0:34:410:34:45

It's very, very sweet.

0:34:450:34:48

Dating from around about the 1920s.

0:34:490:34:52

have you noticed this name on the case?

0:34:520:34:55

-Cartier.

-Cartier...

0:34:550:34:57

There's a possibility it was retailed by Cartier,

0:34:570:35:01

-but it wasn't actually MADE by Cartier.

-No.

0:35:010:35:03

-So it's been sitting in the drawer at home not working?

-I'm afraid so.

0:35:030:35:07

-But still a little bit loved.

-Very loved!

-You'll love it a lot more

0:35:070:35:11

when I tell you that really it's worth between £900 and £1,200.

0:35:110:35:13

-Ooh.

-Right, sounds wonderful.

0:35:130:35:16

Now, many years ago, in another life, I taught briefly at St Martins School of Art, in the 1960s.

0:35:160:35:23

And amongst my students were two very strange men

0:35:230:35:27

called Gilbert and George. They are a phenomenon of the British art market,

0:35:270:35:33

the British art scene, in the last 30 years. Why do you have a Gilbert and George item?

0:35:330:35:38

This belongs to my partner. And he thinks it was sent to him

0:35:380:35:42

when he was studying A-level art at the local school.

0:35:420:35:46

He thinks his cousin, who'd probably been to this exhibition, had sent him this as an item of interest

0:35:460:35:51

which might help him in his studies.

0:35:510:35:54

Gilbert and George are an important component in the development of conceptual art,

0:35:540:35:59

in the development of, particularly, performance art. This is 1970...

0:35:590:36:02

They invented a form of art where they said, in a way,

0:36:020:36:07

"We are the artists. We sing, we dance, we perform. And everything we do is a work of art. Art for all."

0:36:070:36:14

At this point they were doing singing, dancing, performing sculpture,

0:36:140:36:20

so they're taking the object away from the artist and saying,

0:36:200:36:24

"Actually, it's the artist himself who is the work of art." Since then,

0:36:240:36:27

-they've become international superstars.

-Mmm.

-What we have here is a wonderful, riveting document,

0:36:270:36:33

"A message from the sculptors Gilbert and George," Inside, we find a set of little photographs

0:36:330:36:39

and a statement. "Gilbert and George, the sculptors, are walking along a new road.

0:36:390:36:44

They left their little studio with all the tools and brushes, taking with them only some music,

0:36:440:36:49

"gentle smiles on their faces and the most serious intentions in the world".

0:36:490:36:53

Now, this is a little kit of photographs...

0:36:530:36:56

And everything they did, whether it was eating, walking... All aspects of their life, become art.

0:36:560:37:02

We move on, and a sculpture sample entitled Sculpture Samples.

0:37:020:37:08

"G&G's make-up."

0:37:080:37:10

"G&G's tobacco and ash."

0:37:100:37:13

"G&G's hair." "G&G's coat and shirt."

0:37:130:37:16

"G&G's breakfast."

0:37:160:37:18

And in a way, this is advertising their work,

0:37:180:37:21

They are saying, "Look, this is what we do. We can do sculpture for YOU.

0:37:210:37:25

"We can be like a party piece," You know, "We can come to your house and perform." In this day, of course,

0:37:250:37:30

they were still very eccentric, little known, except by the real sort of art fringe.

0:37:300:37:35

Their whole career as really sort of important pictorial artists

0:37:350:37:40

and performance artists was ahead of them. Now, one of them is local, isn't he?

0:37:400:37:44

I believe George Passmore... He did live in Totnes in his early years.

0:37:440:37:49

-Yes.

-I think he was born in Totnes, but...

-So he's a Devon lad.

0:37:490:37:53

The other one, Gilbert, is Italian. Now...I'm sure many people think "Well, THAT'S a load of rubbish."

0:37:530:38:00

You know, "why are they wasting time looking at something like this?"

0:38:000:38:03

Is this a great work of art? Well, who knows? At the moment, it's very, very collectable.

0:38:030:38:08

-think the right sort of collector is going to pay a lot of money for this, I'm going to say £2,000.

-No!

0:38:080:38:15

-I've said it.

-Well, that's incredible.

0:38:150:38:19

This is a very exciting collection of silver, obviously put together by your family over hundreds of years.

0:38:200:38:26

-It's not family at all, it's church silver.

-Oh, really?

-Yes.

0:38:260:38:30

And, um, how did you come by it?

0:38:300:38:32

Well, we were having a Parochial Church Council meeting,

0:38:320:38:36

and because we've got a number of large bills at the moment, we were looking at what our assets were.

0:38:360:38:42

One of the things that came up was...

0:38:420:38:45

a churchwarden said he'd been talking to a previous churchwarden who said we have got some silver...

0:38:450:38:51

in a safe under the stairs!

0:38:510:38:53

-What was your reaction when you opened the safe and these treasures fell out?

-Well,

0:38:530:38:58

I think the reaction was at the meeting the night before, when they said that we HAD the silver...

0:38:580:39:04

-But you didn't know what?

-..and read out a list of things.

-Oh, right.

-And there was...were gasps all round.

0:39:040:39:10

-So you were mentally prepared.

-So we were mentally prepared

0:39:100:39:14

but when I actually took the things out of the safe, I was just staggered really. Amazed.

0:39:140:39:19

-I can quite understand that.

-Yes.

-Several pieces have an inscription from the Bampfylde family.

0:39:190:39:25

-Are they local people?

-They would have been lord of the local manor.

0:39:250:39:30

And the local manor-house owned not only the church, but a lot of the land and properties around.

0:39:300:39:37

Well, it's a very exciting collection. I must say that church silver is...

0:39:370:39:42

you often find particularly early pieces which have usually escaped destruction.

0:39:420:39:48

and there really are some exceptionally interesting things here, notably...

0:39:480:39:53

this tazza here,

0:39:530:39:55

which was made in 1710

0:39:550:39:58

by a well known Exeter silversmith - so it's local interest - John Elston.

0:39:580:40:03

A particularly nice piece, and also with a quite interesting inscription

0:40:030:40:09

from the Bampfylde family, "Doctor of Divinity" - that's a gift of his,

0:40:090:40:15

beautifully hallmarked,

0:40:150:40:18

and with this chased gadroon border which is very typical of the period.

0:40:180:40:23

And similarly on the foot.

0:40:230:40:25

For you silver collectors, I should point out the foot is also marked, which is quite an important thing.

0:40:250:40:31

-And that's a paten?

-That's a paten. Or "tazza", we tend to call them.

0:40:310:40:37

And then we have, again, you could say another member of the family,

0:40:370:40:42

this rather spectacular George I flagon

0:40:420:40:45

which was made in 1715 -

0:40:450:40:48

but this is a London made piece.

0:40:480:40:51

Interestingly, this had a Victorian spout added at a later date.

0:40:510:40:55

And they've actually done the right thing, which they often didn't do, of having it hallmarked as an addition.

0:40:550:41:01

-Interesting.

-So it's got a little Victorian hallmark for the 1880s.

-Oh, right!

0:41:010:41:05

To me, although it isn't hallmarked, the most interesting piece,

0:41:050:41:10

because I really like its rather rustic character,

0:41:100:41:15

is this chalice and paten.

0:41:150:41:17

Now, this is Elizabethan,

0:41:170:41:20

and it would date from about 1570.

0:41:200:41:24

When Elizabeth I came to the throne,

0:41:240:41:27

she succeeded Mary who, of course, was a good Catholic.

0:41:270:41:31

And this is not the Catholic form of chalice.

0:41:310:41:35

So somewhat into Elizabeth's reign,

0:41:350:41:37

an edict went out that all churches had to have the more Protestant type of chalice,

0:41:370:41:42

so you find that that a very large number of these chalices were made over a few years in the 1570s.

0:41:420:41:48

Although this has no marks at all,

0:41:480:41:50

it was undoubtedly made by a local silversmith.

0:41:500:41:54

it's absolutely typical of the period with this beautiful banded engraving.

0:41:540:41:58

-Lovely.

-Partially gilt, and gilded inside.

0:41:580:42:02

Very elegant. And the paten is very similarly decorated.

0:42:020:42:07

It's quite surprising that it has absolutely no hallmarks at all.

0:42:070:42:11

Well, to run through...

0:42:110:42:13

I would estimate the tazza at...

0:42:130:42:17

£4,000 to £6,000.

0:42:170:42:19

The flagon, which again has been altered, which does alter the value somewhat,

0:42:190:42:25

-I should think in the £10,000 to £12,000 range.

-Goodness me!

0:42:250:42:29

This is very difficult to put a price on. If it were fully hallmarked, it'd undoubtedly be a lot more valuable

0:42:290:42:35

but, I would say, this is probably £6,000 to £10,000.

0:42:350:42:42

-..My!

-So that should set the church bells ringing a bit.

0:42:420:42:44

And that's it for today - there's only so much Devonshire cream a person can take!

0:42:470:42:52

But we've all fallen for Dartington Hall. Only one thing for it - we'll have to come back.

0:42:520:42:57

I'm sure the people of South Devon have more to offer.

0:42:570:42:59

If you'd like a preview of what'll be coming our way, log on and play the valuation game.

0:42:590:43:05

But for now, goodbye.

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