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This is the east coast of Yorkshire, where between the white chalk arms of Flamborough Head | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
and the lowland spit at Spurn, we find the seaside town of Hornsea. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
Well, I knew it was small... | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
they said it was sleepy, but this is rather... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
spooky. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
Where is everyone? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
Normally people flock here for the beach or for the wildlife on the freshwater lake, The Mere... | 0:00:55 | 0:01:02 | |
..or to admire the famous collection of Hornsea Pottery. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
But not it seems today. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
There used to be a spot of smuggling round here once... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
you don't think they've all...? No. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Wait a minute... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
I wonder. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Of course, I should have guessed, the word's gone round the Antiques Roadshow's in town, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:33 | |
and they've all headed for the Leisure Centre. Let's meet the population. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
-These girls are obviously Art Deco dancers. -Yes, yes. Lovely. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:43 | |
So are you an Art Deco collector? | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Um, a little bit. I bought this one in auction, um, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
it was a household auction and I don't think this should have been in it, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
so I dragged my husband in and the auctioneer at one point was saying, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
"The bid is with the gentleman with the very excited lady on the bed", | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
because I was nudging him, "Keep bidding, keep bidding!" | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
So we got this and then we had a shop, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
and somebody came in with this one and I loved them and then we went to another auction, I got this one | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
-from under the nose of a local dealer, which is even better. -Let's start with the one nearest you. -Yes. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:19 | |
The great thing about Deco figures is, for some reason best known to the modellers, the sculptors of the day, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
they always show them standing on one leg, don't they? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
That's how we always stand, us women. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
-Is that? Is that right? -Oh, God, yes. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
When we're excited we always go on one leg, yes. Have you not noticed? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
-You obviously haven't got a woman excited, Eric. -No. -No, well, there you go. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
-Well, I'll pay more attention in future. -Exactly, yes. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
-I've always thought it rude to look down when I'm talking to somebody. -Yes, well. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
Anyway...well, this particular one, the minute I see a piece like this, I want to do this. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
-I mean, it could be on the head, I want to tap it. -Yes, yes. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
-And if I was to do the same with the twins over here. -Yes, yes. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
Give them a quick tap because it gives a sort of a dull sound when you tap. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:08 | |
I've got no doubt, without actually scratching them underneath, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
to say that these are actually spelter. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
-Yes. -Which, without being unkind, is often referred to as a poor man's bronze. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
In terms of alloy, it's primarily zinc. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
-Yes. -And you can cast with it, but heaven forbid it breaks because it's a nightmare to repair. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:30 | |
-Yes. -Because it fractures rather jaggedly. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
-Brittle, yeah. -This particular figure date-wise... | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
-I would say we're looking around about 1925, 1930. -Really? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-As early as that? -And I think that these two here are also 1925, 1930. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:46 | |
As for the shades, it's difficult to know whether that's original because there are lots of repros being made. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:53 | |
-Yes. -In fact there are lots of repros of this type of figure. -Yes. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
Um, but what I find interesting is THIS shape, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
for the simple reason that it's emulating, or simulating veined alabaster. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:04 | |
-Oh, right. -I mean, that definitely adds to the value of that figure. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Yeah, yeah. It is a lovely shape. I like that one, yes. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
When it comes to price, if I wanted to go and buy one of these today, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
-I would probably be asked somewhere in the region of around about £200. -Right. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
And for the twins, I would probably expect to have to pay | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
-around about £400 or £500. -Yes. -Which brings us to this particular figure. -Right, yes. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
So, once again I need to give it a bit of a tap. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
It's got slightly more resonance to it, that particular figure, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-which is good news because that suggests that we are dealing with bronze as opposed to spelter. -Wow. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:43 | |
And if I can just give her a quick, a quick twirl, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
the first thing that springs to mind is the condition - | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
she's in lovely condition. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
-The way that she's been given this lovely green, little, almost like a kimono-type gown, isn't it? -Yes, yes. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:59 | |
And, you know, we're talking in terms of... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
in an age when a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
-Shocking, yes. -That amount of leg... -Ooh! -I mean, that predates Mary Quant, doesn't it? -Yes, exactly. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:11 | |
I can see the name here, Teleska. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-Yes. -And I can tell you now, I've not come across his name before. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
-Oh, right. -But it's so true of so many East European sculptors in the '20s and '30s - | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
you see the piece and you see the name... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
you wait ten years before you find another piece by that person. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
-What did you pay at auction for it? -We're talking about 20 years ago, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
so we thought we were really daring to pay about perhaps £75 for it maybe, something like that. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
-Daring? -Mmm. -OK. Well, if I was going to be daring today, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
I wouldn't hesitate to spend the better part of £1,000 to put her on my mantel shelf. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:50 | |
Good grief! | 0:05:50 | 0:05:51 | |
I really thought that this would be less than these two. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
-Well, there you are... -That just shows you. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-Is it Columbo who says, "It's always the one you least suspect." -Exactly. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
You either love it or you hate it, which is it? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
-Love it. -Why? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
Just pure intriguement - the way it's made, the textures, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
the thought of somebody sitting there and actually making the bits and all the shapes. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:19 | |
Well, how it was made is actually quite interesting. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Let's go back to the mid-1500s and to a French potter called Bernard Palissy. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
If you were a piece of wildlife running around the country you'd be in severe danger | 0:06:28 | 0:06:34 | |
because he liked the look of reptiles, snakes, frogs, newts - | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
he would take them into his studio and he would actually make casts of them, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:43 | |
so this piece was made in the Bernard Palissy style. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
These animals were probably hopping around the French countryside | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
when some French potter said, "Ah, we could make one of these into a nice big dish." | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
So this comes out of the Bernard Palissy tradition, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
and again it was made in France, but in the 19th century. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
So how long have you had it? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Er, it's been in my family for about 100 years that I know of. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
And where did it come from? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
It was a gift to a great-aunt when she retired from service. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
She was housekeeper, cook for one of the big families in London or on the outskirts of London. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
-So you think it could have come from quite a large house? -Yes. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Because objects like this are very imposing. You stand back when you see this, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
you think "Oh, my goodness!" | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
You need a big space to show this in. Where does it live at home? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
At the moment it's in storage but for most of its life | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
it's hung above the fireplace in what used to be the family home | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
for at least 70 years, but I put claim to it. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
You need a sturdy wall. It's massively heavy. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
It used to have a very large Victorian six-inch nail that went with it to hang it from. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:57 | |
Well, looking on the back, we can see it always was intended to be hung, those holes are glazed through, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:04 | |
and here's the mark of the maker. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Now, sadly this is not by Bernard Palissy. It is not getting on for 500 years old, I'm afraid. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:14 | |
It's a 19th-century piece and we have a wonderful toad, my goodness even when you stroke him he... | 0:08:14 | 0:08:21 | |
-..he makes a noise, doesn't he? -He's hollow. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
He's lovely. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
Broadly speaking, it belongs to the tradition we call majolica ware. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
It's lead-glazed earthenware and sadly... | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Well, if it were 16th-century it would be worth thousands of pounds, but it ain't, it ain't 16th-century. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:43 | |
It's probably worth somewhere in the region of £2,000 to £3,500. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
Me husband, he dug it up. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-He was doing a job for the farmer, you know, where he worked, near a duck pond. -Was he? | 0:08:54 | 0:09:00 | |
And he dug this up. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
At first he thought it was just an old... Then when he cleaned it up and saw what it was, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
he showed his boss and his boss says, "Well, keep it". | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Well, that was jolly nice. Do you wear it? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Er, well, I did, and then somebody said it might be valuable so I put in me jewellery box. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:18 | |
Very sensible, and I think they were right. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
I do think it is quite valuable, but more than valuable, it's a very interesting thing. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
-Shall I tell you why? -Yes. -Let's have a little look inside here. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
In a little script that tells me | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
that this ring is made in the 17th or early 18th century. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Goodness me! | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
In the 17th or early 18th century this was engraved with the following... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
-It says "Love pure will endure". -Yes. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
And that's what we call a posy. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
The word "posy" is a corruption of the word poesy which is an old term for poetry. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
-Yes. -So this is a poetry ring, and this is the most lovely message, a covert message... | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
It's lovely. I think so, yes. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
..of love, absolutely, and it's hidden inside the ring like this. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
-So nobody else can see it. -I think almost certainly, yeah. -Yes. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
And, um, no, a brilliant thing, but very collectable. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
I think probably about £600, £700. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
Lovely. Smashing. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-I thought maybe it was snake skin. -That's not a bad guess. It's actually fish skin. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
-Oh, right. -But it's treated in a certain way, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
it's probably the skin of one of the shark or ray families. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
-Right. -And if you take the skin - it's knobbly. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
-Yes, right. -And if you dye it and then you polish it, or vice versa, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
you polish the tops off the knobbles and you end up with this almost pepper and salt effect. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:52 | |
This case, which is more difficult to see, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
this is actually very, very fine fish skin and they haven't polished it. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
It's the finer part of a... | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
of a smaller version of the ray fin. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
They're very popular in the end of the 18th century as a decorative technique. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:13 | |
And in fact, this is exactly the date of these two pieces. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Now, if I open them up, they are actually fascinating | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
because what we've got is a small set of travelling instruments. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
-Lay out the bits and they're basically a simple geometry set. -Mmm. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
This I've never seen, this little protective piece on the end. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:38 | |
That's the first time I've seen it. And here you have a pair of dividers | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
with steel points, adjustable, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
-which would have been used for taking dimensions off a map. -Yes. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
And there's a neat little touch on them, if you turn that one round, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
-put it back in the end, and you've actually got a compass. -Right, fine. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
Now, it's not finished there | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-because you can pull apart these. I don't think these have ever been used. -No, no, no, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
-well, I wondered about that, yes, yes. -I was going to ask you that. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
And then you can dismantle them again and you can place... | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
these pieces inside, that goes in there. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
-I didn't actually know that. -That goes in...there, like that, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
-and they're even bigger. -Oh, amazing, I didn't know that they did that. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
They've got an ivory rule | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
which is graduated with various scales. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
And the best bit about it is on this side... | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
we have a name. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-Oh, really? -Have you seen that? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
-Adams - London. -Oh, yeah, right. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
Now, there were a big family of Adams and I would date this instrument | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
at around about, say 1765, 1770. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
Really?! I really didn't think it was that old. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
But hang on, we haven't finished. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
This one, which is undoubtedly later, probably in the 1790s I think, late '80s or '90s, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:10 | |
you can see from the design, the leather, it has a later feeling, doesn't it? | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
It is, in my opinion, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
by the second generation of the family. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
It's unsigned, but you've got very similar detail and very similar features. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:26 | |
So it looks as if we have a set by let's say the father, and a further set by the son. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:33 | |
Anything on the history in the family? | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Um, all I really know about them is that I believe they belonged | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
to my great-grandfather and then to my grandfather on my father's side, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
and came down to my dad, and really that's all I know about them. I really don't know anything else. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
No great, sort of, nautical history or anything? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Not as far as I know. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Usually these instruments are not... not that rare... | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
but by Adams who was one of the best instrument makers of the period... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
..and being absolutely complete, and that is quite rare, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
I suppose I'd say £1,500 to £2,000 for that one. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
But probably only half for this set. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Oh, that's amazing, that really is. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
I'm really surprised. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
I didn't think, although I can see that that was stylish, I really didn't think it was that valuable. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:30 | |
These are the biggest pair of blunderbuss pistols I've ever seen. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
Can you tell me where you got them from? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
They were bought by my father, about 40 years ago at a house sale not far from the Humber. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
Because these are the sort of things | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
that would have been used by anybody who needed firearms like this for personal protection, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
and because they're all brass, or perhaps gun metal I'm not quite sure of what the alloy is, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
but it's a copper rich alloy, they would be very, very resistant to corrosion, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
and that really does shout to me, for on board ship. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
And one of these in close quarters, you'd probably shoot two or three people with them, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:09 | |
and that would give you a hell of an advantage in a situation where you were faced with several attackers. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
They date from about 1820 and they have on the bottom these little marks there, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:22 | |
those are from the Birmingham proof house and that was consumer safety - | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
one of the earliest ones. And every gun had to go there and be test fired with a whopping great load, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
double the charge, full of powder. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Whack a whole load of shot on the top of it and if it stood that then it would stand a normal load. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
At the moment because things like this are so unusual | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
and the market's very, very strong, I think about £3,000. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
-Fantastic. -Yeah, they are fantastic. Thanks for bringing them. -Excellent. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
As you'll know by now, this is a series with a mission. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
We are scouring the country for champion collectors, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
the men, women and children who've worked hardest putting a collection together, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
and we're finding that there's a fisherman with over 3,000 flies, a woman with 200 egg timers. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
They're a passionate lot out there. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
But we're moving up a gear today, literally. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
The owner of this collection can't come to us, so I'm leaving the Roadshow just for a little while. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:19 | |
-The owner and driver of this magnificent machine is Alan Marshall. Morning, Alan. -Morning. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:25 | |
We'll be back at the Roadshow very soon. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Well, I'd love to be asked to pass the toast in this, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
I think that's great fun. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
Tell me what you know about it and where it came from. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
It belongs to my daughter-in-law Sarah and it was given to her by her grandma, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:50 | |
she got it as a wedding present in the 1930s, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
and all my daughter-in-law knows it's a toast rack | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
and it's based on the replica of Amy Johnson's plane. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
Of course, these aeronautical things are very sought-after, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
but I slightly query the date of it, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
because, in fact, I think it's much earlier. You see, here you've got a design registry mark, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
but this design registry mark comes within a range that finished in 1919. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
-Oh. -So this was probably actually made during the First World War, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
but I could see this being worth anything between £500 on a bad day to about £1,500 on a really good day. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:29 | |
-Well, that'll cheer her up no end. -Yeah. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
You're going to take these home and take these horrible wires off. They are very bad for the plate. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
They were on... Always been on. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
That is no excuse. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
Our contender for most devoted collector this week, Alan Marshall, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
has a passion for Humber vintage motor cars. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
He's rescued 40 of them from going on the scrap heap. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
They were once the monarch's favourite mode of transport. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
George VI once owned 47 of them. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
This is Humber heaven. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
# Heaven I'm in heaven | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
# And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak... # | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
So this is what started your love affair with Humber? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
This was the first car my father bought for the princely sum of £90 in 1960. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
After that, he learned me how to drive in this car. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
It became my own personal wedding car for me and my wife, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
and I brought my children up from the maternity home in it and took them to the christening, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
so she really was a family car. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
They were always known as the poor man's Rolls Royce in some respects, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
and never really got to the esteem of Rolls Royce, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
but certainly the gentry loved the cars. Every prime minister of the day would have a Humber Pullman. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
Grand cars for grand people. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
Certainly. 50 years ago, ladies went out every evening with large gowns and hats, and high hairstyles. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:06 | |
This sort of coachwork really suited the fashions of the day. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
If you were looking for privacy in 1932, you'd buy yourself a Snipe 80. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
This one belonged to Edward VIII and Mrs Simpson. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
Humbers have got the lowest survival rate of any make of car. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Whereas perhaps 80% of Rolls Royces survived, only 1% of Humbers survived, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
so I've built up the collection. People have actually almost donated cars to me | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
because they know I have a passion for them, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
and they know I'll never sell them or give them up to anybody else. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
This looks almost unrecognisable as a Humber - it's a bit flash, a bit American. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
Well, certainly, by... This is a 1967 Humber Imperial, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
and at this time the American Chrysler Corporation had taken over shares in the company. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
They do have that American look to them on the outside but I think you'll agree it's a very... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:10 | |
It's like an English boardroom, the interior of the car. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
We have Connolly hide, mahogany cappings, West of England cloth-roof linings. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
Room for a bowler hat? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
Certainly room for a bowler hat. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
And what exactly is this? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Oh, this was the latest innovation in 1967 | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
which was a Phillips radio cassette with fitted Dictaphone. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
You were perhaps stuck in a traffic jam, you could still put your cassette into the radio | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
and dictate messages for your secretary to type at a later time. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
Who'd have thought it! | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Michael Aspel in a Humber Imperial, and now back to the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
I have to say, the first inkling that I got that this was something other than it appears | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
-was when it was lifted from there down to here. -Right. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
-And it took three people. -Very heavy. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-Very heavy and unusual for what really looks like a bedside cupboard. -Yes. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
So... | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
inside you've got this extraordinary mirror... | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
-Yeah. -..with a lock in the middle. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
When you pull it open... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
it's a safe. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
And the interior's absolutely gorgeous. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
The most wonderful purple silk velvet interior. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
And really because it's been protected from the light, it's as rich and as strong as it was... | 0:21:22 | 0:21:28 | |
And the drawers themselves are made of metal - they're very heavy. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-They are heavy. -And this would have been a domestic safe - | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
something somebody would have had in their bedroom with jewellery in it. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
It's not an industrial-looking piece. It's meant to blend in with the household. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
-Do you use it yourself? -I do. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-For its proper purpose? -I do, yes. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
That's very good. That's excellent. How did you come by it? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-Um, it was a wedding present from my parents to my husband and I about 12 years ago. -Right. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:56 | |
-I've always loved it. Dad bought it a while ago, in about the 1960s, I think. -Yes. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:02 | |
It's just always been there and... | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
So you know of no earlier history? It was acquired in the '60s... | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
None at all, no, nothing other than that and because it has the initials on the inside door, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
that's something I've always wondered about as well. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
I noticed this - very interesting. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
It's got the initials here which look to me to be an "I" probably a "G", | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
-and the main initial... -I couldn't make it out. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
..is an "A" so I think it's "IGA". | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
-Right. -Or something like that. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
And done in enamel and that would undoubtedly have been for the person it was made for, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
and this here is not mirror glass but it's actually polished steel. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
And then it's been etched, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
so it gets a very high shine. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
But the piece itself dates from the 1860s. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
There was a man called Henry Lawford | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
who published designs of marquetry furniture and boulle furniture at around that date, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
and it's typical of the sort of thing that was seen in the 1862 exhibition in London. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
-And it's clearly French influenced, but made in England. -Right. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
-Um, you've got these very pretty mounts going down the side here. -Yes. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
This inlay and then here a Sevres, or an imitation probably Sevres plaque - | 0:23:08 | 0:23:14 | |
so a French plaque of two lovers, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
but imported and then incorporated into the piece of furniture. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
-And underneath here, interestingly, can you see it says "IG Appleby". -Oh. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:28 | |
And those are the initials on the inside. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Oh, gosh! I didn't even realise. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
-So I think that whoever Mr Appleby was... -Yes. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
..is the person for whom the piece of furniture was made. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-Right. -And I think also whilst we have this off, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
there's a label here from a depository in Kingston-on-Thames. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
So it's the sort of thing one could probably find out if there was a family called Appleby in that area. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
And this is dated 1924, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
-so at some stage maybe a big house was broken up and the things went into storage. -Yes. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
-Oh, gosh. -But it's an exceptionally fine piece of furniture, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
but it's obviously something to treasure for ever. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
It's just something that I've loved and I've been fascinated by. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Well, as an indication, from an insurance point of view, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
it's something you should insure because it's so unusual. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
I have never seen an elaborate safe like this, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
-and it's a dual purpose thing because it's a very useful cabinet which I'm sure you use. -Yeah, I do use it. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:24 | |
-But from an insurance point of view I would say a figure of something like £6,000 would be sensible. -Gosh. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:32 | |
This is a lovely rarity for the Roadshow, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
we've got someone who was at a pottery factory at the beginning, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
or more or less, and someone who was there when it finished. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
-You were both at the Hornsea. -Yes. Yes. -Did you work together? -No. -No. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Tell me how it started for you. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
I left school, had to get a job, Hornsea pottery was the main thing in those days. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
It was late '50s so I went there when I was 15. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
-Because the pottery itself started in 1949. -Yes. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
Two brothers starting painting plaster-of-Paris souvenirs, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
and then somebody had the bright idea that they could do it in pottery instead. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
And then you joined at a time... just when it was all... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
-When it was all coming together. -Now, what did you do? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Most jobs in the factory, but I started at sponge and fettling. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
Now, you're going to have to explain that. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
-When the items come out of the mould, after they've been cast... -Like this? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
-Like that one, for instance. -Yes, OK. -Where the moulds are joined, they have a ridge, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
and that has to be gently lifted off with a knife and sponged with an actual sponge. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Where were the mould lines? Can we see them? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
-I hope not! If I've done my job properly you won't be able to see them! -Absolutely. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
-There, you can't see them. -You've got the good job. -They were stuck on with slip afterwards. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
-No, so probably there, but you can't see those. -No, you've done a good job. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
-I must have done, yes. -So that was made in the late 1950s. -Yes, 1950s-60s. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
-And the rest of these pieces on this side of the table belong to you? -Well, yes. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
-Do you have any fond feelings for any of them in particular? -This one, called a doe jug. -A doe jug? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:07 | |
-A doe jug. -And there's the doe in the bottom. -Yes, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
and I bought that with my first week's wages - it cost me seven and six, and that was with a discount. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
And these pieces on this side of the table were made under your period there? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
Under my dad's period, actually. I mean, which was in the '70s, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
-and that mug especially, there isn't many of them. -This mug here? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
-Yes, they were made for the Jubilee. -Yes. -But they were... | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
If I remember right, they only had one handle, whereas that one was actually made for my brother. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
-But it didn't go into production? -No, not the double-handed one, no. I think they only made five or six. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:43 | |
-This is a real rarity. -Yes. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
But I think something that's even rarer is these... I've never seen these boxes. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
Yes, they were never released for sale, as far as I know. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
-And why was that, do you suppose? -I think it was too modern for its time. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
I'm going to disagree with you there, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
I think that Hornsea at its really best, was absolutely at the cutting edge of modern design. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
They made a lot of things which would fall into the sentimental souvenir bracket, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
-let's be honest about it. -Yes. -Yes. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
But they did, when they were really good, they came top-notch designers. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
I think the reason they didn't make this is it is incredibly difficult to do. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
-Yes. -This is basically like making a stick of rock, isn't it? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
Um, and that would have been a very expensive process, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
so I suspect these are really probably quite expensive objects to a Hornsea collector | 0:27:28 | 0:27:35 | |
-because they never came on the market. -Yes. -Mm-hmm. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Um, I have a particular soft spot for the period that YOU were there, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
because I don't know if you knew him... Did you know John Clappison? | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-John Clappison. Yes, I did. -Well, John Clappison was one of the leading lights. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
-He was, definitely, yes. -And I fished out of the queue something that really did appeal to me. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
-Oh, yes. -And here it is. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
-And this was actually designed by John Clappison. -Yes, yes. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
-Now, isn't that fantastic? -Lovely. -Yes. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Now, some people say, "What?! I wouldn't give that house room!" | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
But it's... One of the questions we really get asked on the Roadshow is, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
"What do you recommend that we buy for a future investment?" | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
I say, "Buy something that speaks of its period". | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
Now, we know that Clappison designed this in 1959, it went into production in... | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
Yes, I remember, I've fettled a few of those. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
-You might even have fettled these? -Yes. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
-Good heavens, isn't that wonderful? -Yes. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
And they are typical of the early '60s when they were in production. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
They were in production for about three years. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
That conical shape, that sort of abstracted tree design, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
alpine and spruce are the two patterns, and I think that's a really glorious design. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
-Yes. -I think that's where the money should go. -Yes. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
-Do you remember what this retailed for? Early '60s. -Now you're asking. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
-Give it a guess. -No, I can't. Well, if that was seven and six... | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
-That would be... -A bit more. -£1 10 shillings or something? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
£1, something like that, yes. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
£1 10 shillings. That would be £1.50... | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
in 1960-63. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Stick two noughts on the end and today you'd have £150. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
But it shows you what a tremendous variety Hornsea was responsible for producing. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:23 | |
My son had stored quite a bit of stuff in his loft in the house he'd lived in for what, 10-15 years. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:30 | |
-They found another house, they were moving. -Yes. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
And as they went to empty the loft they saw a black bag. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
"What's that?" "I don't know." And there we are. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
And there it was, voila, as they say. But it never belonged to your family? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
-No. -How brilliant! Well, let me tell you a little bit about this picture. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Now, have you noticed that it's signed or anything? | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
-No, I've looked for a signature. I can't see anything. -It's just here. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
It's Edmund Gill. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:57 | |
-1879, it looks like there. -Oh. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Now, Edmund Gill was called Waterfall Gill because he only... | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
by and large...painted waterfalls | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
and he painted mainly in Wales and Yorkshire. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
But, funnily enough, according to an old label on the back, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
this is in fact North Wales, it says. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
So we have a wonderfully typical work | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
by this Victorian artist, Edmund "Waterfall" Gill. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
But it has been a bit battered, hasn't it? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Oh, yes, forgotten. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
-Forgotten. -Mice? | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
Mice, scratches, we don't know what it was. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
I think you're going to get a bit of a windfall from a waterfall, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
-if you...if you excuse the pun. -Yes. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-But I would say something like this was worth between £1,500 and £2,000. -Good heavens! | 0:30:39 | 0:30:46 | |
-So, not bad. -Not bad. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-So you'd do, like, a handkerchief or...? -Yeah. And dusters. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
-Dusters? -Yes. -Dusters?! This is just fantastic. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
So this is a sewing machine... We can tell the age of it. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
-It's got the patent details on the side here. -Yes. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
-So, 18... "Patented in 1875." -Was it? -Yes. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
So you are using a sewing machine from 1875, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
over 100 years ago, to do your hemming on your dusters. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
-Yes. -Right. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
Most people who have these are avid collectors of sewing machines. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
-They don't necessarily still use them. -No. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
-It's actually got the maker's name on it. -Yes. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-Taylor's of Driffield, which is near here, isn't it? -Yes, not far. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
Only about 10 mile up the road. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
And then, of course, it was... also made for a Cheapside firm. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
That was a big centre for tailoring. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
-We need to see the sewing in action. -Well, I'll try. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
-Can you give us a demonstration? -I'll try. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
-Here goes. -Here goes. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
That's it. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
That's tremendous. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Look at that long stitch, that's wonderful. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
I'm not sure how straight you're going there. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
Oh, no, just left of the mark. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
That's brilliant. So, still in use today. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
Value-wise to a collector of sewing machines, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
I expect they'd be happy to part with as much as £100 for it. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
Ah! Oh, I like that. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
But I think they'd pay more if it came with one of your pre-sewn dusters. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
Maybe! | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Bill, if someone inherits an old firearm and it's been lying around for ages, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
how do they know that it's safe to handle? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
Well, the first thing that you should do whenever you pick up any firearm | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
is to assume that it's loaded. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
It's not very easy to tell with a muzzle-loading firearm. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
A sure-fire way of doing it is to use the ramrod, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
or another rod if it hasn't got one, and to drop it down the barrel. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
If it goes in a good, long way | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
and you then pull it out and measure it off against the barrel, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
you can see that's gone right down to the bottom, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
so there's nothing in there. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
Now, if I take this one and drop it in, you see it sticks out. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
-Are you telling me that's loaded? -Yes, it is. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
I loaded it with lavatory paper | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
to give the impression that there was a charge in there. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
That sticking out the top should ring some alarm bells. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
If you have a firearm that you think is loaded, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
you must always keep your fingers away from the trigger and the mechanism | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
until you can find some way of unloading it or getting someone to unload it. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
As a general principle, guns don't go off until you pull the triggers. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
If I was suspicious about this, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
I would make sure this was put somewhere it wouldn't do any harm, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
locked away. And, you see, I'm always pointing it | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
in a way where the worst that's going to suffer is a light if it goes off. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
But suppose, after all these reassurances, they simply are too worried to keep it, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
-how do they get rid of it? -You can own antique firearms legitimately | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
and there are plenty of ways of disposing it, through auctions, through the local gunsmith. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:05 | |
Local gunsmiths are very useful for working out whether things are loaded, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
because they do it on a daily basis. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
If you have any doubts, look in the telephone directory, find the local gunsmith. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
You could also try and get in touch with a local shooting club | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
or phone the police firearms licensing department. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
When I was doing my National Service, I always kept the musket clean, no spiders down the barrel. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
What's the feeling about cleaning weapons? I mean swords and guns? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
I have very mixed views about cleaning it. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
If we look at this rather nice Prussian bayonet. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
It's got a brass hilt and I haven't cleaned that deliberately | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
and it's got what is very clearly the sort of patina of ages on it, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
and I've left that because I like that colour. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Rather than that shiny brass on this modern replica. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
And I don't intend to clean that. The best, I think, that you can do | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
if you are uncertain as to whether to clean something is don't clean it. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
We get people bringing Grandad's medals and they say, "We cleaned them specially last night." | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
And I say, "Oh, I wish you hadn't." | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
Every time you clean metal, you actually take some of it away. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Modern pastes and polishes are highly abrasive. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
The only thing that I would consider using on metalwork like this | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
is this very fine chalk paste. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
It takes it off very, very slowly and you can control the process. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
That's about as abrasive as talcum powder. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
That's conservation-grade paste that's used in museums. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
-You're going to make someone a wonderful housewife. -Thank you! | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
Kind of you to say so. I have been known to hoover on one occasion. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
Very rare. But I do enjoy a bit of dusting. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
My grandfather bought a raffle ticket | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
at a church garden party in about... | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
-..1880, I would think. -No! | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
I wasn't there but I think it would be about 1880. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
And...it...was a prize... | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
that had been donated to the garden party | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
by a missionary from Japan who was home on leave. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
What puzzles me slightly | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
is that these prints are not on Japanese paper, as you would expect, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:23 | |
they are on crepe paper. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
-Mm. -Now, the crepe paper was generally for export. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:32 | |
Yes. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
Now, I would suspect one of two things - | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
either they got hold of, in Japan, some crepe-paper prints | 0:36:36 | 0:36:42 | |
and that this lacework was done by Japanese in the mission, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:49 | |
and being taught to do lace in the mission, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
or that the prints came back with the missionary | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
-and the whole thing was put together in England. -Oh. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
I wonder whether we've got anything on the...? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
Now, you see, this IS Japanese. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
-This whole thing was put together in Japan. -Ah, yes? -Undoubtedly, yeah. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
Right. Now, that's fascinating. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
-1880, we can go back to. -Well, round about 1880... | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
Well, that's as early as it could be. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
You don't get these crepe paper much earlier than that. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
This would have appealed enormously to somebody in England in 1880. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:31 | |
We are in the Aesthetic Movement period | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
when the whole country is Japanese mad. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
Anything Japanese...BIG time. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
The prints are of a late date, as you would expect. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
The only ones I know here are by Kunisada, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
who was a well-known print-maker. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
But they're all of a high standard | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
and illustrate scenes of Japanese life | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
or from stories, mythology, that sort of thing. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
If I were putting an exhibition on | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
at a major London museum | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
and I wanted to illustrate | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
this period... | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
-I'd put this in it. -I see, yes. -This would be in it. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Putting a value on it is actually jolly difficult because it doesn't fit into any category. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
It's just a novelty. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
But I think it's a novelty which, if it did come up for sale and it were written up properly, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:37 | |
would make between £2,000 and £3,000. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
Oh. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
-A quite expensive novelty, eh? -Yes. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
"With love and kisses for a happy Geburtstag to Val, (34 today) from Mike". | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
Who Val, who Mike? | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
I'm Val, Mike McCartney. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
-Brother of Paul. -Yes. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
-This is something that he made for you on your 34th birthday...?! I don't think so. -19th. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
That sounds more like it. And when was that? What year? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
1961. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
Amazing! So, you and Mike were what, girlfriend/boyfriend, friends? | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
Well, friends really. We were both students in Liverpool at the same time. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
Fantastic. And this reads through a kind of who's who and what's what | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
-in Liverpool in '61 in the Jacaranda Coffee Bar. -Yes. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Everybody knows about the Cavern probably. But the Jacaranda was a great venue. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
-Bit scruffy, I've been told. -Yes. -And the Cavern. -Yes. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
I mean, one can't look at a Cavern Club membership card | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
-without sort of feeling a sort of thrill of excitement. -Yes. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
-And did you go often? -Yes, quite a lot. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
On Mike McCartney's arm? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
-Yes. -Very good. -Sometimes. -You were sort of waved through probably. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
-Yes, yes, absolutely, yes. -And how good were they? -Excellent, wonderful. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
I've spoken to a lot of people who went to those early concerts | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
and they've said that, you know, the sort of sexiness of it, the sort of rawness of it | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
was something that they kind of lost when they went to bigger venues and were more... | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
Because this was originally a jazz club. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
Acker Bilk and Kenny Ball and all those sort of bands played there. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
And did you feel that you were at the sort of start of something big? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
-Yes, definitely. -And how...? -Absolutely, yes. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
-So they were definitely a cut above everybody else. -Yes. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Wonderful. And in those early days, of course, they had a completely different line-up. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:35 | |
This shows you that early line-up. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
You had George Harrison, John Lennon, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
-Paul McCartney and Pete Best, who was the drummer. -Pete Best. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
-How did you get that? -Well, there's a story attached to that. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
I was down in the Cavern with them, with Mike, and they weren't really very famous at the time, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:53 | |
so for a joke actually | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
I picked this old Senior Service packet up from the Cavern floor | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
-and said, "Right, boys, sign that for me." -"One day you'll be famous." | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
-And... -A true story. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
And it's so sweet the way they've written "The Beatles", | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-just in case you forgot which band it was. -Yes. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
But I like the look of some of these letters here. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
It says here "In the Cavern the other day, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
"660 came to see them in the lunch break..." The Beatles. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
"..while the Shadows got approximately 700 and the Temperance Seven about 800, both at night." | 0:41:25 | 0:41:31 | |
So suddenly it was a lunch-time venue. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
-Lunch time. -How interesting! | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
This is a nice little bit of history. What date's that? July '61. And what else have we got in here? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:43 | |
I'm waiting... This is like the Holy Grail here, handling these. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
Oh, how sweet! | 0:41:49 | 0:41:50 | |
"Dad has just found your letter in a bunch of fan mail. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
"You see, Paul gets between 40 and 70 letters a day now and some of it hasn't been sorted." | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
I think that's great. From the really early days again, 1961. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
-Yes. -I mean this is just wonderful. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-And the fact that you were right in there, right at the sort of... in the middle of it all. -Yes. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:12 | |
This is going to stack up really nicely. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
Let's do a little bit of adding here. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
Well, the poster itself, even though it's got a little bit of damage, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
-that's probably around £250. -Really? -Yes. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
And then these... | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
little pieces of printed memorabilia, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
well, these are probably going... | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
A ticket like that is probably going to be £250. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
And another £250. Jacaranda Club... | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
You very seldom see the Jacaranda, that's probably another £250. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
The Cavern for the 1963 season, THE ultimate season! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
-£400, £500 maybe. -Really? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
-Letters... I mean, not that you could ever think about selling these. -Oh, no. -These are... | 0:42:55 | 0:43:01 | |
-Hundreds a-piece. -Really? -Hundreds a-piece, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
-because they relate to The Beatles. -Yes. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
And as for this little joke from the floor of the Cavern, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
I would have thought we're talking about probably £3,000...£4,000. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:15 | |
Gosh, wonderful. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
-So it's a very nice little group of memories really. -Yes. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
-But more than memories. -Absolutely. -Because they actually tell the story of the early days | 0:43:22 | 0:43:27 | |
-of probably the most important band of the 20th century. -Yes, wonderful. -Good for you. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:32 | |
Thank you very much. That was really interesting. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
No wonder the streets of Hornsea were empty earlier, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
I think everyone was eager to get out of the cold into the embrace of a nice, warm expert. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:44 | |
Folk here are very used to fighting the elements. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
This town used to be 14 miles from the sea | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
and now it's just a quarter of a mile away. Fingers crossed! | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
Until the next time, from the coast of Yorkshire, goodbye. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
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