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This week, the Antiques Roadshow is in red rose country, we've come to the city of Lancaster. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:37 | |
Many events and many people contributed to the making of Lancaster. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
One name that pops up more often than others is Gillow, a family of | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
craftsmen who did their first work from these premises back in 1720. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
Gillow's work is characterised by its originality and inventiveness - look no further than Lancaster's | 0:00:55 | 0:01:02 | |
Town Hall, opened in 1909, when every child was given a box of chocolates to celebrate. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:08 | |
Picture the scene - a dinner party in the Mayor's parlour with just the | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
right amount of guests to fill this table, which is two metres across. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
Then the Mayor decides to bring a few extra chums. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
No problem, this table is centrifugal. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Allow me. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
As it revolves, this mahogany marvel opens up and the gaps are filled by special leaves. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
The result? 50% more space. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
The only person not impressed would be the cook, who has to provide the extra food. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
And, if you're wanting to spread out after dinner, you may need a bit more space. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
Mr Gillow had thought of that already. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
This wall weighs two tons, but with the combination of | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
a brilliant system of counterweights plus my own incredible strength... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
Voila! Let the party commence. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
The next day it's back to work. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
The Council Chamber is impressive with panelled walls and a throne fit for a...mayor. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:02 | |
And, if the meeting goes on too long, the councillors can | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
always take a crafty nap, courtesy of the Gillow patent recliner. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
Ah, the ayes have it. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
This is really a place for Lancaster's Harry Potter fans. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
As well as expanding tables and moving walls, there are portraits that behave very strangely. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:30 | |
These hidden passages are handy for our film crew to sneak their equipment through. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
The floor of the Ashton Hall, where we're holding the show, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
is sprung for dancing, so experts, take your partners, please. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
GRAMOPHONE PLAYS | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
# Little Betty Bouncer is kind to her people | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
# And a nice girl, more or less | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
# But at present, no joke | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
# She's causing her folks No end of deep distress | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
# Little Miss Bouncer loves an announcer down at the BBC... # | 0:04:08 | 0:04:14 | |
-That's great. -That was Flotsam and Jetsam in 1927. -Wonderful! | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
And it could be said about any of Michael Aspel's fans, of course. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Now, this is a wonderful sort of time warp, a mid-1920s Columbia Grafonola | 0:04:23 | 0:04:32 | |
cabinet gramophone in wonderful condition with a period record. Are you a bit of an enthusiast? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:39 | |
I am really, I have about 10,000 gramophone records, mainly between the two wars, mainly. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:48 | |
So, when did you get hooked? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
During my school days. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
In 1969 I bought just a few... | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
-From this period? -Yes. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Is this the only machine you have to play? Or have you also collected some other gramophones? | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
No, I have eight other gramophones, but this is one of my favourites. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
This is terrific, and I tell you one thing that is great about this. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
It's a great piece of furniture. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-We've got the very... I like the hi tech volume control. -Yes, the volume control. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
So this is very quiet and that's very loud, and anything in between. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-Underneath you've got storage for... -Space for records. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
-Space for records, but not space for 10,000. -No, no. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-It's a great piece of furniture. -Yes. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
And, over the years, I have seen so many of these lovely cabinets changed into cocktail cabinets. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:39 | |
The fact that this is in its original condition, and very good original | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
condition, and it hasn't suffered the fate of so many others, is terrific. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
I'm seeing also other pieces of ephemera relating to records and that whole period. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
-That's right, period sheet music. -Yeah. -There's Amy Johnson. -Yes. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
-And this is to commemorate her flight to Australia in 1930. George Formby... -George Formby. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
Jack Payne... | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
-Jack's the boy. -And Jack Holbert. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
-Particularly, I like the Chinese Laundry Blues there. -Yes. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-With that great photographic portrait of George Formby. -Lovely picture. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
That really brings him to life, and of course, Formby, Wigan man, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
but I suppose if you're interested in dance music, it has to be Jack Payne. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
I mean, he was the master of that period, on the Columbia record label, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
it's called either "Do Something" or "I'll always be in love with you". | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
Now, as far as value's concerned, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
I'm constantly surprised at how little these fetch. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
I would have thought we're talking about £300 to £400 on a good day. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
Of course, I only have them for the enjoyment. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
Yes, you're not interested in selling. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-So, let's just hear Jack Payne "Doing Something". -Yes. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
OLD STYLE DANCE MUSIC | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
Do you know, if we'd have been chatting about, 60 years ago, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-the chances are that most people outside this Town Hall would have been wearing clogs. -Yes, they would. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:24 | |
Clogs are synonymous with Lancashire. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
All the old folk I used to know told me, "There's nowt so comfortable as clogs." | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
So I bought a pair and I actually used to go out dancing in them, and then my wife - I nearly crippled her. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
So, I do have an affinity with clogs. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
I've also got an affinity with this pair of clogs. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
-They could never be described as Lancashire, could they? -No. -No. -They've no irons on. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
No irons, that's important, but they do have, underneath, a mark. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
-Yes. -It's all in a name, isn't it? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
-Yes, it is. -Bizarre by Clarice Cliff. -Yes. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Because, in all fairness, this is a pair of clogs that, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-stylistically, they'd look more at home on a Dutchman than they would on a Lancastrian. -Yes. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
The interesting thing is they are decorated with this geometric design. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-It's called Sunburst. -Yes. -If you look at it, it's almost like a chevron design. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
-I mean, they are colourful, aren't they? -Mm. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-Do you know if you've got a left or a right? -No, it's puzzled me, that. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-Well, the truth is, there is no left and there is no right. -Oh. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
-It's the same clog, OK? -Oh. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
I actually do know somebody who collects clogs of this size, and it's me mother. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
She hasn't got a pair like this, but if she wanted a pair like this, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
what do you think she'd have to pay for them? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
-About £75. -£75... I think she'd be very lucky to get them for 75. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:42 | |
I think that you could put a nought on the end of that, because these are | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-worth somewhere in the region of between £600 and £800. -Are they? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
-Quite easily. -Oh. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
-Oh, they're expensive clogs, aren't they? -They are expensive clogs! | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Well, it doesn't look like much like this, does it? But look at this. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Isn't this splendid? I think I could probably play for hours with this, but let's just start here. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
Just feast our eyes on that, while you tell me how you got hold of this. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
My father's had it for 50 years and it was passed to him by a Gillow's man. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
-Right. -Presumably that man got it from another Gillow's man. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
-So it actually has been making Gillow's furniture? -I suspect so. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
-Yes. -That's perfect, so we're in Lancaster, so that's wonderful, right. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
There's such a tradition in the this area of furniture making. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Obviously Gillow's is a big firm, later Waring and Gillow, but what I think is fantastic, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
when you see this, you imagine someone's tool box, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
like a modern plastic tool box you carry around from job to job, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
here was something handmade by the original craftsman. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
He'd make it himself for his own tools and he's put all of this love | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
and care and attention into it, showing how wonderful his box was. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
You're not actually a cabinet maker yourself? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
I'm not, no, but there are tools in there from my father, my grandfather and my great grandfather. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:01 | |
How wonderful. This is a maker's stamp for marking tools by the look of it. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
That's my father's. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
-And that's his stamp. -Yes. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Isn't that wonderful? And that's what they actually used for stamping the tools. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
Yes. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
I've seen something here which... Explain this to me, is it what I think it is? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Well, we used to play conkers as children and one evening my father | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
disappeared for several hours and came back with that. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
-He hadn't been climbing a conker tree. -No, no, no. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
-He turned that himself. -He made that. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-So you've been cheating with that, have you? -He was. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-What, he really used it for conkers? -Yes. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
It's almost like lignum vitae or something, it's very, very hard wood. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
-Yes, yes. -Very, very dense. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
That for conkers would be absolutely lethal! | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
It's so real, how glorious. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
But this is what's so wonderful, I mean, I've had a few minutes just to flick through this book - | 0:10:53 | 0:10:59 | |
all the things he did. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-I think this is at the end of his apprenticeship. -Right. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
"April 15th, 1932", so we're talking about the '30s of the last century. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
-Yes. -But, you know, sashing windows, making a coffin. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
-Yes. -14 or 15 hours. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Well, he was an undertaker as well, so coffin making was | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
a prime part of his work. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
That's fascinating because that's not just in the 20th century. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Thomas Chippendale and all his contemporaries worked around St Martin-in-the-Fields | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
in the centre of London, and they worked around the church, why? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Because there was a good business making coffins - when there wasn't | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
an order for grand furniture, they made simple coffins and boxes. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
That's one reason why they had these big and wonderful, wonderful boxes | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
because they could carry it from one job to another with a mate's help. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
You could put this on a train, you could go up to Glasgow for the sea. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
You know, working on the ships. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
This type of decoration would be early 19th century - | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
mahogany with chequered stringing, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
this star device, you see on clock cases and furniture. 1800-1820, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
up to 1840 or 1850, so without any more precise family history, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
I would say it is about 1850. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
"The Lancaster Agricultural Society Challenge Cup | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
"presented by Lady Ashton | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
"for the best collection | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
"consisting of one horse, two cattle". | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
I love this! "Male or female, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
-"and three sheep". -That's right. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
So, how do you come to have this? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
-I'm a committee member of the Lancaster and Morton Agricultural Society. -Right. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
It was given so many years ago to the Society from Lady Ashton. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
Oh, right. I notice the inscription fizzles out in about 1999. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
Now that says something to me, and says foot-and-mouth. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
We did struggle after the foot-and-mouth event, yes, we did. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
-Right, so that's had quite a bad effect on the Society. -It has, yes. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-That's sad. -Very sad because it's been going over 100 years. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
It's a large, it's an impressive cup, but it's very light. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
-Right. -It's always been referred to, sometimes rather cruelly, as "flash for cash". -Right. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
Somebody wanted a lot for their money. Nonetheless it's still got a value. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
It does need a bit of attention. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
In an auction I would expect it to perhaps to reach maybe £500. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Right. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
But if you had to go out and buy a new one of similar size, it's going to be quite a lot more. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:39 | |
Oh, it is, look, that's what I wanted to see, Norris. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
That's one of the Rolls-Royce plane makers. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Now, that's worth some money in itself, that's a wonderful plane. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
It's in such nice condition, just needs a bit of a clean up. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
So, you've got three Norris planes in there. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
What else? What's this? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Are there any moulding planes and things? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Moulding planes are at the back of this compartment. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
-Right, how many of those have you got? -Well, it's full. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
-Full of them, what 20 or 30 of them? -Yeah, maybe, maybe 20. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
This is a wonderful machine with a rosewood handle on a veneer scraper. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
Really pulling, you know, taking the saw marks out... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
The old horizontal saw, and just pulling them... Oh, my gosh, what hard work that must have been. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
I haven't seen one of those before actually, it's interesting, and certainly not of that scale. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Thank heavens you rescued it, because it's obviously quite a valuable item. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
-Right. -Those Norris planes, at least £200 or £300 each. -Mmm. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
You've got 30 or 40 moulding planes, well they were | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
£30 each, they've gone down a bit now - probably worth about £10 each. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
Must be, must be 60 chisels, I would think. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-So what are we going to put on it for value? -Don't know. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-I mean the box is worth £1,000 and you've probably got £2,000 worth of tools. -Right. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
So a good £3,000, but more important than that, family and local history. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
-Yes. -What a wonderful thing. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
A working man's livelihood. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
-Well, you open the lid and it speaks volumes, doesn't it? -That's great, I could have that in my front room. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
Yes, yes, quite. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
It's considered rude to look at other people's letters, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
but I have to say that it's a thing that I do pretty regularly when I see something as interesting | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
as this collection of letters from the Crimean War. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Are they from a relative or from your family? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Yes, they belonged to my grandfather and he got them from his cousin, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
Uncle Ken, who was a Bronskill and he lived in Brampton near Penrith. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
This letter interests me because it's headed "Camp behind Sebastopol, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
"December 20th 1854". | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
The Army had the Russians under siege and they were bombing the city | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
and trying to make it surrender. And you've transcribed this? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
-Yes. -That must have taken you a long time to do - very spidery writing! | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
Very difficult, yes. | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
They were freezing cold in tents and he'd be sitting there with a candle, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:05 | |
with a tiny travelling ink bottle and it probably took him a long time to write. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
It starts with his service in September, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
and the first battle was at the Alma and it said, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
"And warm work it was with large shots came whizzing around our ears like snowballs, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
"but did a great deal more execution, but thank God, I came clear of wounds | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
"except having my regimental hat shattered to pieces by grapeshot, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
"and if I am spared, I will bring home a glazed cover which was over it, to show how my head escaped". | 0:16:29 | 0:16:35 | |
If it had been a foot lower, you and I wouldn't have been speaking today! | 0:16:35 | 0:16:41 | |
We then move on to Inkerman, which is another great battle, and that was appropriately on 5th November. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
He said, "Now we commenced our gunpowder plot as early as six o'clock in the morning, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
"and such destructive fireworks... was never seen in England". | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
And then you get the real horror of warfare | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
that his sort of jokey start really sort of tries to disguise. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
The casualties of his battery were 20% | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
and over 30% of the horses put out of action, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
which effectively made it useless as a unit any more. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
By the time you get a quarter to a third of casualties, a unit | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
really ceases to have its cohesion, and here he says, "After this day, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
"for the longest day I live, I shall always have occasion to remember the 5th November". I should think so. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
It's interesting as you get to the end of it, there's a slight hint about what's going to happen. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
"But now...my health is not in any way good at present and it is very cold weather to live in tents", | 0:17:32 | 0:17:38 | |
and I think it must have been absolutely desperate, you know, because freezing cold, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:44 | |
complete ineptitude in the supplies system, poor clothing, no winter clothes and desperate. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:50 | |
-And then there's this rather sad little letter to...his mother? -Yes. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
From her sister, who'd heard second-hand that he'd died. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
-That's right. -And it said that he died at the hospital | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-and I think that was Scutari where Florence Nightingale was. -Really? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
-So, you've rescued these letters. -Yes. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
I'm delighted that you did. What do you think you want to do with them? | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Well, rather than sit in my home in this book, I'd like to give them to a museum | 0:18:13 | 0:18:19 | |
and let other people enjoy them, they're charming. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
I think that's a very worthy aim. They have a commercial value. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
They're worth between sort of £300 to £500. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-Yes. -There's lots of interest in the Crimea, and I think | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
that you should edit them and you should publish them. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
You could put them on the internet and that would be a really good resource for somebody. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
And if you then wanted to give them to a museum they'd be preserved. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
-Right. -But what you've done, you've given this man a voice. -Yes. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Otherwise he would just be a statistic, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-and that's an absolutely priceless gift. Thanks for bringing them. -Yes, thank you, thank you. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
Now here's an artist who really understood animals | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
and the English countryside. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
I love the way he's got these sheep and the cattle, and also just here | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
you can see a goat coming up the hill, all together, and a farmer | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
will probably tell me that didn't happen, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
but I feel that he understands his animals - | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
the sheep lying down like that, it's so perfectly convincing. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
-Do you like this picture? -It reminds me of where I live so it's... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
-Where do you live? -Up on the fells, so we overlook all the hills. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-Big open roaming countryside. -Yes, it's lovely. -Rather like this? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
-Yes. -The artist was Thomas Sydney Cooper and he's signed it, luckily for us, just here, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
and inscribed it, "a sketch by" | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
and he's dated it - 1855. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
We once had a painting by Thomas Sydney Cooper in my gallery, during Smithfield week. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
A farmer walked in and said, "That's the best bloody picture of sheep I've ever seen", | 0:19:50 | 0:19:56 | |
and bought it on the spot, because he said that the artist had really understood it. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:03 | |
Although this is just a sketch, I think he has - he's understood | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
the countryside and the animals working in it, very well. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
If I saw this picture in an auction, I'd be very tempted to pay | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
a premium, if you like, over what it might be worth, because it's so lovely. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
It's a picture that ought to get quite a few people chasing it. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Could drive it up as far as £6,000 I feel. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Very, very pretty picture. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
That's a nice surprise. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
There's a touch of serendipity about this week's featured | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
collector because Brenda Lever was out looking to add to her | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
collection of powder compacts when something else caught her fancy, and that was, Brenda, scarves. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
-Scarves, yes. -How long ago was that? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-About seven years ago, yeah. -And what started you off then? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
Mainly, I like the graphics and I just thought | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
it was a very interesting subject and they were there, they weren't very expensive and I thought, why not? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
It's capturing the 20th century. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
If I don't do it, maybe nobody else will do it, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
and it just sort of mushroomed from there. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
I just had friends, they started collecting and it's mushroomed. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
-And how many do you have? -Approximately 1,200. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
And are they all posh silk scarves? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
No, no. A large proportion are silk, but quite a few are crepe because | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
during World War Two you couldn't get the silk, so they had to use rayon. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
Just after the war they used rayon-crepe quite a lot, and then in | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
the '50s the silk sort of came back in again because it was, you know, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
like, during the war they had to use it for parachutes so obviously it was in short supply. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
And you've got some top designers as well, haven't you? | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Who are the top scarf people? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Well, Hermes, Paris, Ferragamo... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
This one here? | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
Pucci, Pucci. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
That's a good weight, isn't it? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
-That is good. That is a good quality scarf. -And how much would that cost? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
-Now, today, you'd be lucky to find one of these under a couple of hundred pounds. -Right. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
You may be lucky if you traipse around, but to buy new you're talking a heck of a lot of money. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
So what's the oldest one you've got? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
This one from the First World War. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
It has the words, "It's a long way to Tipperary" printed on it. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
As you can see, it's cotton. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-It's more a neckerchief. -That's weathered very well. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
Oh, it's weathered well and God knows where it's been, your guess is as good as mine. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:23 | |
-Perhaps it's always been wrapped up nicely. -Yeah, possibly. -What other historical ones have you got? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
This was a freebie, given away with the newspapers in America, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
celebrating the Japanese surrender in 1945. Silk. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
Flimsy, you know, not particularly expensive, but very historical nevertheless. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:44 | |
What about the scarves of famous people? Do you have any of those? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Yeah. I have one with Grace Kelly. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Where are you, Grace? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
This one was actually given to me by a lady | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
who had worked in Monaco alongside Grace Kelly. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
Grace Kelly actually had a boutique, I believe, in Monaco and this lady rang me and she said, "I would like | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
"you to have the scarf because I'm getting old and I don't want it to be | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
"thrown out and I'd rather it went to a genuine collector". | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
-Grace Kelly. -Yeah, has her initials. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Ah, lovely, you haven't got Isadora Duncan's, have you? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
No, no, she was strangled by a scarf! | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
I'm afraid so! I tell you who really should | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
-be conducting this conversation, because he's a collector as well, and that's Paul Atterbury. -Really? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
Paul, look at this selection. Are you overwhelmed? | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
I'm completely green with envy. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
-A fellow scarf collector. -You've got all the ones I haven't got and I've wanted to have for years. -Really? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:41 | |
It's a great, great thing to collect because | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
scarves are wonderfully decorative, they're period - you can say '50s, '60s whatever, straight away. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
Most important, they're one of the few collecting areas that are still available. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
You know, you go to a charity shop, rummage through that great bundle | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
of scarves and, who knows, what you're going to find for 50p or £1? | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
What people think when they see me rummaging through ladies' scarves, I hate to think. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
This is amazing, you've done wonders. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-Thank you very much. -Brenda, thank you very much. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Thank you, Michael. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
Well, this caught my eye. How did you happen to get hold of it? | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
Well, I found it in a charity shop, Barnardo's Charity shop. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
-Right, and how much did you pay for it? -About £14 or £15. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Right, well, it caught my eye because I think that, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
with a little bit of magic wanding, we can actually transform this. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
So I propose that we get some silver cleaner and we have a little go at | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
-this and see what we can transform it into. Are you game? -Yes. -Great. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
Well, bewitching this object certainly is. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Fantastic, with this diminutive bra | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
and girdle with suspenders on the bottom here. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
It's a good job we haven't got one of the older experts here | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
because I think those chaps would be getting all hot under the collar! | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
It's a great object. What made you buy it? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
I just fell in love with her, and I went back to the shop about four | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
times to try and barter with the man for the price and he wouldn't shift | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
-on the price, he said, "No, I love her as well". -Oh, no. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
So that was that, so I ended up with her in the end, so that's good. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
OK, hit me with it, what did you have to pay? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-£100. -Ten years ago. -Yes. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
You were buying retail, which is at the top of the market, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
but I have to say if there's one area in the antiques business | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
which is doing OK at the moment, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
it is 1950s, 1960s, and this sort of fits right in the middle there. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
It's not a great piece of design. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
What it is is a great bit of kitsch. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
If I saw it in a shop, I'd pay £200 for it, no problem. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
I think you got a good buy. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
So, here we go. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
This is just a basic silver cleaner you get from any shop and it's a question of elbow grease and just | 0:25:55 | 0:26:01 | |
work at it, and look at the filth that's dripping off it already. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
This is oxidised silver - this is silver we're cleaning and you can | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
already see how it's coming up, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
so with a great deal more elbow grease, I think we're onto a... | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
You'll see a pretty radical transformation. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
This bronze rat has a bit of a waggle on its tail, why is that? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
My wife's grandparents used to use it as a doorstop. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Really? What a use for it! | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
And I see also it's got a mark on the bottom, have you had that read? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Well, I've actually asked a Chinese friend of mine if she could read it | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
and she said it didn't make any sense to her at all. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
-Well, you asked a Chinese and these are Japanese. -Ah! | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Made around 1900. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
In Japan, the rat is a sign of good luck | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
and it's often associated with the god of good fortune, Hotei. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:55 | |
He often has a sack of good things and rats are often seen breaking into it. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:01 | |
So they're a completely different concept - in Europe we don't like | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
them so much, but in Japan they are a great object of reverence, almost. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
Now, from doorstop to what sort of value do you think they've got? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Well, I wouldn't have thought an awful lot to be honest. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Hence the doorstop mentality! | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
-But perhaps when I tell you they're worth between £600 and £800 the pair... -No. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:27 | |
You'll stop using them as a doorstop. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
-Definitely! -Thank you for bringing them. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
Wow, thank you! | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Well, with about five minutes of elbow grease, this is what we've arrived at. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
This is a Renaissance revival bon-bon dish. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
It's English, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
dating about 1865, silver plated with a frosted glass insert. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:52 | |
-They're not really at the height of fashion these, but you paid...fifteen quid for it? -Yeah. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
Well, I reckon we've added at least two quid to the value by cleaning it. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
That's lovely! | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
So there we go, a little bit of spit of polish and I think you know, I mean you can see the difference. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
-Yes. -Great. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
Now it seems to me that you must be an actress or a theatrical person. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
No, nothing of the sort. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Oh, why have you got all these extraordinary pictures then? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
-Well, they actually belonged to my late husband's family. -Right. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
They belonged to his great-grandma, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
who was an English lady but moved to Glasgow with her husband. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:30 | |
-So they lived in Glasgow? -Yes, they did. -And when are we talking about? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
-Probably 1908. -So, before the First World War. -Oh, definitely, yes. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
-So they were based in Glasgow, and what did she do? -I know she had a boarding house. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
Ah, so are we saying that these are all people who came to stay at her boarding house? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
Yes, what she used to do is, people used to stay and obviously she must have made them so welcome, they used | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
to get back in touch, but obviously they didn't have the phone then, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:57 | |
so they used to send postcards ahead to book a room. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
This troupe are coming round dressed as Girl Guides, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
"Mrs Ferguson, we're working at Burns' Palace, Armadale this week. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
"We'll be pleased to see you and Mr Ferguson on Saturday, if you can come". | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
-So they're not staying with her, they're just saying "here we are again". -That's right. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
-It's great. We're straight into the sort of the last days of the Victorian-Edwardian music hall. -Yes. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:26 | |
These are all musical performers, singers, dancers, novelty acts. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:32 | |
What I like about this, is it brings to life that extraordinary period of popular theatre. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:39 | |
You know, the music hall was a great thing, everybody went to it. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
We can't imagine the scale of the music hall and the popularity, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
and every night there was a different act, a different turn. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
-That's right. -And all these people had their own postcards, trade cards, to promote their acts. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:55 | |
-That's right. -And, as you say, they probably used these to say, "We're on our way, give us a room". -Yes. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:01 | |
-Part of the novelty thing was also, I think, the dressing up. -Yes. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
So, whether these were actually Scottish people, or were people | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
-acting out Scottish roles, -who knows. Yes. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
Now, they certainly aren't Japanese, but they're doing a Japanese turn. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
-Yes. -Sometimes the comments are just great. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
I love this one - | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
"In Ragtime Impressions of a Rapid Review of Modern Dance". | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
This is dated 1910. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
-Very early. -And look at her skirt. -She's showing her knees. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
Exactly. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
-Yes. -And that's what she did on the stage, so half the people | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
-were going there to be sort of titillated by pretty girls. -Yes. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
-Knees, you know, bits of things they never normally saw. -Yes. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
"Clarke and Davis in their clever Hebrew act". | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
I mean, you couldn't say that now. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
-No. -But again it's part of the sort of comedy process at that time. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
I long to know what "educational tit-bits" are, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
-and also "legitimate dancing". -Yes, that's right! | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
I'd rather see the illegitimate dancing! | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
It's great, I mean obviously you never knew her. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
I didn't, no. I have a picture in my bedroom of her. We call her "Ma". | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
-What does she look like? -She's beautiful, she really is. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
When we look at a collection like this, it's about bringing to life a period. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
It's about bringing to life your late husband's history, isn't it? | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
-Yes. -He must have been very excited by all this. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
-He treasured them. -If you were simply a buyer or a collector, none of these are worth much. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
-No. -The signed ones are interesting, they're personal, they're to Mrs Ferguson. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
But I have to admit, there's no-one here who actually would have changed | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
the world, so the value is not there, but the history is. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
A Britain that's completely vanished. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
It once used to sit on Morecambe Promenade, which is very close | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
to Lancaster, and it's part of the Morecambe and Lancaster history. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
Well, you've got the evidence to prove it, haven't you? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
-Because you've brought along a couple of photographs. -Yes. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
This one... This clock tower is still there... | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
It's still situated on Morecambe promenade. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
And there we see not just one, but we've actually got a pair of these pots, haven't we? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
-To be frank with you, it probably needed a visa to get here. -Right. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
Because this has come from over the border, as we say in this part of the world. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
This has come from Yorkshire, I think. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
-Right. -I can't help but think that this started off life at the Leeds Fireclay Company. -Right. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
Sometime in the sort of 1880s, 1890s so... | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
I reckon this weighs probably around about 500lbs or thereabouts, and I would reckon | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
a pound for pound, so if you wanted to go out and buy another one of | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
these today, if you could find one, I reckon you'd probably have to pay somewhere in the region of £500. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
-Do you fancy the idea of owning a pair? -Definitely. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Once you've got a pair, you've got to go out and get that clock tower, haven't you, to put between the two. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
-I'm sure Morecambe's got one to spare somewhere. -I'm sure it has. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
It's a beautiful hand. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Gorgeous handwriting, very simple, very elegant. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
It's a table of all the receipts contained in this book, so it's a recipe book. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:05 | |
Yes, and it also has remedies for illnesses. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
-Oh, really? -Which, of course, were homemade - you didn't | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
rush to the chemist, or buy something over the counter - you had to make your own. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
-You boiled them up in the kitchen. -You made them in the kitchen, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
so I think a lot of cookery books of this time did combine recipes and remedies. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:29 | |
Indeed. When do you think this was made? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Well, it came from a farmhouse in Westmoreland, which belonged to my | 0:33:31 | 0:33:37 | |
husband's family, and it was passed on to us, I don't know who Mrs Buck, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:43 | |
the authoress of the book, is... | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
From the look at the handwriting, the manuscript was made either at | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
the very end of the 17th century or the beginning of the 18th century. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
It must have taken her a long time, no rushing for a word processor. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
Absolutely, so she's telling us to preserve walnuts, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
to make good cheese, to preserve lemons or sweet ones. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
-Isn't that lovely? -That's lovely. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Quince cream, Spanish cream, these all sound absolutely delicious. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:15 | |
What's surprising is the sheer variety of diet. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I think we sometimes think that people just lived on bread and water at this time but they didn't. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
-Not a bit of it. -Pickling cucumbers, marinating trouts. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
I'm fascinated by the medical side of this. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:32 | |
As you say, it's a time before the family doctor, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
everything had to be done in the house, but there are some really quite extraordinary recipes here. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
This is one that caught my eye - the snail water. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
What's snail water? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
"You take a peck of snails, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
"newly gathered, we put them in a large pipkin | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
"and let them stand for 12 hours with three handfuls of red sage". | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
Quite what we do with snail water I don't know. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
And does it say what it cures? | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
If it does, it's a little bit difficult to read, you're putting me on the spot here. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
I hope it's a medicine and not a starter, don't you? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
I hope so, yes, I hope so, might be quite delicious! One just doesn't know. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
My hunch is that some of these recipes were passed around. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
I think one woman would pass them to another woman, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
that woman would copy them up in her book | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
and that's the way in which recipes were transmitted, if you like. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
This is before printing, before recipe books were printed - | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
you're transmitting everything in manuscript. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
So it's a wonderful insight into the way in which people shared information about food. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
You know, there's no Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith, to tell us how to do | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
it, but they were getting on and making the most wonderful things. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
When these things have come up at auction in the past, I guess they | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
fetched somewhere between £600 and £800, sometimes a little bit more. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:59 | |
I find this one very attractive, I must say, and it's lovely to know | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
-who it's by, it's lovely to know that it's Mrs Buck's. -Yes. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
-So perhaps we're talking a little bit more than that. Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
It was bought by my husband's father and since he died we've had it in our house since then, yes. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:18 | |
-And did you take it willingly, with open arms, or was it thrust upon you? -Yes, we did. Yes, we did. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
Oh good, because it is just glorious isn't it? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Every time you look at a corner, you see something else. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
Domestic embroidery like this | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
really was the culmination of the training of a young girl. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
She'd start off with plain sewing, then she might do | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
-something a little bit more complicated, but this really was the sort of scholarship piece. -Yes. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:46 | |
And it was very, very popular, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
this type of embroidered picture, in the 17th century. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:54 | |
It's got a lot of different stitches on it | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
and there's lovely chenille work here with the moss. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
It has satin stitch, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
there's couched work, which was actually very clever. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
Here we've got couch work, which is where you laid a thread on the top | 0:37:08 | 0:37:14 | |
and just did a little catching thread every now and again, so | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
of course all the expensive thread was on the top, none of it was behind where it wouldn't be seen. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:23 | |
In the centre we've got spangles - metal discs with a hole in it, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
with a little bead on the top, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
and of course everywhere catching the light as I tilt it. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
We have gold thread, we have bits of mica | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
and all in all it has... | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
If you had a tick list of all the things that you wanted | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
to see in a 17th century embroidery, this has it actually with knobs on. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
Oh, gosh! | 0:37:49 | 0:37:50 | |
It really does, because of all this raised work. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
Now if I put my finger in here, we can actually see the depth | 0:37:54 | 0:38:00 | |
of the raised work. Some people call it stump work. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
-Yes. -But actually the correct term is raised work. -I see. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
And you have a wadding inside, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
probably wool, over which these stitches are created, so we have | 0:38:09 | 0:38:15 | |
this wonderful frog and then we have slimy snakes and in fact, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
right over on my side, we have | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
a tangle of snakes. I can almost feel that they're writhing there. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
She would not have designed the picture herself - there were lots of woodcuts and engravings | 0:38:30 | 0:38:38 | |
which then were copied by pattern makers, and those patterns then were available for the girls to use. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:44 | |
And this one, I think, it's almost certain to be a figure of Ceres, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
-the Roman Goddess of plenty. -Yes. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
And of the harvest and so on, and Latin being the language of scholarship, it would mean | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
that the girl was trying to show that she was educated, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
as well as proficient in her stitches. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
The colours are incredibly bright still | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
and I think altogether it makes into an incredibly desirable object. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:14 | |
As far as value is concerned, I would be absolutely confident | 0:39:14 | 0:39:20 | |
it would fetch between £8,000 and £10,000 in auction. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
I wouldn't be surprised if in a very smart shop in the middle of London, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
-you didn't see it at a much higher price when it came to resale. -Yes. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
But for auction, I would have said between £8,000 and £10,000. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
I'm so pleased that I've been able to explore this enchanted garden. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
Thank you very much indeed, thank you. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
A friend was moving from a big house with a garage to a small house, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
so he had half a garage full of stuff he couldn't take with him, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
so I bought it all off him and this was some of the things. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
He was happy, I was happy, especially when I saw the stuff. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
We've done a bit of jiggery-pokery. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Originally it would have been a lime light in there with gas. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
-Oh, yes. -Or an oil lamp in there, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
a bit dangerous for health and safety today, so we've put our own | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
lamp in it, and hopefully if we switch it on it's going to work. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
So, why is it called a magic lantern? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
Back in the 19th century, no TV, very little to do in the evenings. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
The only way you could project and show images was by magic lantern. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
Your collection is interesting - it's not just views | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
from the Holy Land or nursery rhymes. These are slightly special. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
They're all hand painted on glass and they're only about that size, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
so by the time you've blown them up into the village hall and they're | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
a metre across, you can imagine the quality of the paint, so... | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
If we make this work, you can see why it's called a magic lantern. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
So she's transformed, it's a transformation mechanical slide. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
Makes people laugh today, it did 100 years ago. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
It's the first time I've seen it work. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
Well, let me show you a couple of others. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
Here we have the young Queen Victoria, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
again all hand painted. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
You turn the handle... | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
She doesn't look very happy! | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
It's as though she was looking around the room | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
and to all of her subjects. But my favourite slide is this last one. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
And again, when you consider that these were all hand painted, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
normally by 12-14 year-old girls, they could only do it | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
for a very short time because after a while they lost their | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
eyesight, you can see what it is... | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
Can you see the sea moving? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
I feel seasick! | 0:41:56 | 0:41:57 | |
-Now, this is 150 years old and it still entertains people today. -Yes! | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
People still give magic lantern shows. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
-It's got a good colour still. -Very good. Very bright colours. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
-So how many slides have you got in total? -About 200 in all. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:16 | |
About 100 that work like that with the arm mechanism, and about | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
100 that you just put in and you move the glass. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
The most desirable ones are the ones that work on the winding ones, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
-the slipping glass ones are not worth so much. -No. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
But even if we average them out at, say, £30 each, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
-30 times 100 you're talking about £3,000, could be more. -Wow! | 0:42:33 | 0:42:39 | |
So, can you remember what you paid for the garage contents? | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
I paid £150 to £200 for the whole lot, not so bad. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Well, let's hope he's not watching this show, he's not going to be your friend any more. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
No, well, thank you very much, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
-that's great. -It's fun, thank you. -Thank you. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
Looming over us all day here at the Ashton Hall has been the mighty | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
organ, which has been here since 1909 and is in need of a little TLC. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
It should be in perfect condition for the centenary. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
It has over 3,000 pipes and I'm told the work | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
is mostly being done by one man with a toothbrush and some vinegar. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
Not to be tried at home. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
Meanwhile, until the next time, from Lancaster, goodbye. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 |