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Today the Roadshow has come to a location that has its own dramatic place in history, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
having played a vital role in the ultimate political thriller of its day. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
This story has all the necessary ingredients - | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
charismatic heroes and villains, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
outlaws on the run, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:47 | |
betrayal, torture and death. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Add to that list "gunpowder, treason and plot" and you'll know the rest. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:56 | |
Two churches that lie side by side here at Coughton Court in Warwickshire | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
offer clues as to what sparked off the whole affair. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
November 5th 1605 was a turning point in religious history, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
marked these days by spectacular entertainment for all the family. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
But Guy Fawkes wasn't in the Gunpowder Plot alone. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
There were 13 plotters in all | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
and several were kinsmen of the Throckmorton family, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
who've lived at Coughton Court for over 600 years. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
When news reached them that the plot to blow up Parliament had failed, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
Fawkes's fellow conspirators gathered here in the blue drawing room, to discuss tactics. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
They decided to ride north but they were followed by the king's soldiers and rounded up for execution. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:42 | |
What led these men to become desperadoes, determined to overthrow the crown? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
They were Catholics and victims of a harsh regime imposed on their religion | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
which had begun during the reign of Henry VIII. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
They wanted to practise their faith without fear of persecution. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Which brings us back to Coughton Court's two churches. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
This one, the original Catholic church, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
was seized and handed over to the Church of England during the Reformation. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
It took 300 years for Catholicism to be officially recognised again. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
And in 1853 the Throckmortons built a new church next door. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
During those 300 years, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
many Catholic houses continued to worship in secret. The penalty was death. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
As you might expect, the framework of Coughton Court contains a number of secret hiding places. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:43 | |
Visiting priests would take refuge when the authorities came knocking. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
Here, two compartments, one above the other, were hollowed out. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
Their design was so cunning that not one of the secret occupants was ever discovered. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:58 | |
Turbulent times required a vigilant lookout. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Today, I've got a bird's-eye view as the gentlefolk of Warwickshire arrive for the Roadshow. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
An historic one, of course. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
I think if this were mine I'd hang it in the larder. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
-Where have you got it? -It's in the hall. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
-In the hall? -In the hall. -Do you like it? -I love it. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
-You've got a macabre sense of humour, have you? -Possibly, yes. -You and the Japanese both. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
-I think it's FANTASTIC! It's a real goody. -It is, isn't it? -Where did it come from? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
A friend of mine, when he was seriously ill. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
-He knew I'd always admired it and he came round one night and asked if I'd like to keep it. -No! | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
-Isn't that wonderful? -That was lovely. He said that when he'd had a few drinks, he saw them dance. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:46 | |
And he'd seen them dance many times. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-It's a great idea. -Yes. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
The Japanese do actually have quite a macabre sense of humour. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
And the West actually like the sort of mad Japanese sense of humour | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
and their stories and their legends. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
And the two came together. This would never have been made for a Japanese house. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
This is the Japanese making for the Western market. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
They were so skilled, the Japanese ivory carvers. This is ivory. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
Quite often they're bone, the lesser-quality ones are bone. Here with humour, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
we've got the ringmaster with a fan. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
-And the fan is not a complete fan. -No. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-They've made it purposely with bits out of it, which is brilliant. -Tatty. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
This is in mother-of-pearl, abalone shell, and he's got a scarf on his head the same. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:37 | |
Here we've got something, I don't know whether it's a young human | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
jumping through the hoop or whether it's supposed to be a dog. But, whatever, there it goes. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
They're being entertained by another skeleton playing a samisen. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
Samisen is a three-stringed instrument. "Sen" | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
is three, one, two, three strings down here. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
And another one playing a drum and the drum's got no skin. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
It goes straight through, it's just wonderful. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Problems, we've lost a foot here. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-I vacced it up. -You what? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
It fell off and without realising it I vacced it up in the vacuum cleaner. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
I know. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
-Well, that's not good news. -No. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
What's happening is the glue, which is made of fishbones and scales, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
is after... What date's this? 1885. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:35 | |
..is breaking down. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
And that's a problem. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Um, it would be possible to get that recarved. It would not be cheap. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:45 | |
But it would be doable, and frankly it deserves a new foot. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
I love it, I think it's a great, great thing. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
I've never seen another one like it and that's in 30 years of playing this game. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
So I think that would... would sell extraordinarily well. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
I think it would make at auction somewhere between £5,000 and £8,000. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
That's absolutely wonderful. Absolutely wonderful, thank you very much. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
Now what is in this lovely Christmassy box? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Is it one of your treasures? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
No, it belongs to my father and it was his mother's before that. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Oh! | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Nice bit of ancient, ancient tissue. Oh, he's great, isn't he? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:31 | |
Let me just wind him up and put him down on the table. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Does he stagger about a bit too? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Yes, I think we've all seen people like this on Christmas or New Year's Eve, haven't we? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
Well, let me tell you a little bit about him | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
as he ricochets around the table. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
He's made by a company called Fernand Martin. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
Which sounds like an English company but was French. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
And, ooh, hang on. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Oh, that's nice. Look here, this will tell us all about it. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Here's the name, "Le Pochard", the drunkard. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
And here we have all the details about the maker, FM, Fernand Martin. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:10 | |
And the date here of 1900. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
So we know it's after 1900. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
We can also see that he's called Nellie. Who's Nellie? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Nellie's my grandmother. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
Your grandmother. So he was bought for her, presumably. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-Presumably, yes. -I mean, it's quite a strange present to give to a child, this particular toy. Don't you think? | 0:07:27 | 0:07:34 | |
Well, I've always thought so, yes. Especially as we're a strict Methodist teetotal family. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
-Oh, perhaps it was to show the dangers of drink. -Perhaps so. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
Now, what about the value? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
I wonder what your great-grandfather paid for it when he bought it for your grandmother. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
A few shillings, perhaps. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
But today, this particular company, Fernand Martin, is very much sought after. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:02 | |
And I would have thought we're talking about perhaps £400 or £500 with this box lid. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
Wow. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
Well, they do tend to say that dogs look like their owners. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
I'm not sure if this dog looks like its owner, but it looks like that little dog. What's the story? | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
First of all, she was the daughter of a mill owner in Lancashire. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
And she married PT Barnum, the famous circus man. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
-That must have been exciting. -She was 23 and he was 63. So there was quite a... | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Sounds right. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
After he died - and they had quite a happy marriage, I think, for about 18 years - she was left very rich. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
She then married, they say for love, but unfortunately the Greek diplomat died after 11 months. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
She moved to Paris and she married the Baron Alexandi Doningani. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:50 | |
-And she had this little dog called Follette. -Right. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
And I presume when Follette died, she had this brooch made from it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
I don't know much about this brooch but I believe it's called an Essex. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
-I don't know what an Essex is. -When was this photo taken? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
1920s, I should think. I think she died 1928. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
Mmm, and how did you come by this delightful little object? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Well, my great-grandmother, who I remember, she died when I was ten, was the residual legatee. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:19 | |
Although she married three times, she had no children. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
-This lady? -Yes. -Well, that's interesting | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
because I would have thought that, rather than having had this made, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
-she probably found it, thought it looked exactly like Follette and bought it. -Right. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
Because these usually date from a considerably earlier period. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
And it's quite right, it is called an Essex crystal after William Essex | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
who actually painted porcelain, so I've never quite worked out why these are called that. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
But how these are done is very interesting because they're all carved out from behind. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:53 | |
-Not painted? -No, it's carved from behind. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Carved from behind. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
And it's quite three-dimensional. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
When you look at them sideways you can see that the carving occupies all of the thickness of the rock crystal. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:04 | |
-Rock crystal, not glass? -No, rock crystal. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
And then painted with a very, very fine brush, very fine brushes. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
And he's got a little border of raised cut diamonds. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
And he's wearing his dog collar. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
-Yes. -And he's wearing it there too. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
-Is it French? -No, I would say it was English. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
And they're usually about 1870-1880. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
1870-1880? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:27 | |
They're quite sought after. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
And as it's a particularly charming subject, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
and a very popular one, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
I'd value this for insurance at about 2,000 today. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
2,000 today? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
Yes, the last we heard was about 800 or something, yes. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
-It's lovely, thank you very much for bringing it along. -Thank you. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
-We get a lot of football programmes turning up. -Yes. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
-But what's particularly unusual is that they're all yours. -Yes. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
-I don't collect football programmes, I don't collect football memorabilia. -You don't? -No. No. -So? | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
-They're all mine. -They're all yours? -Oh, yes. -So you've been to all these matches? -Yeah. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
I've got three sons and I take my sons off to the football quite often. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
But wasn't it slightly unusual for a girl to be going to football? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
It was most unusual. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
-And how did it all start then? -I don't know, my father was very keen on football. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:21 | |
He was a very good player who could have turned professional. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
And I got very keen on football. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
And my first great football hero was Stanley Matthews. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Right, well, we have him here. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
And I actually went to Villa Park one day, just to see Stanley Matthews play. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:41 | |
And how old were you then? | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
-13, 14. -Really? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-Yes. -And you went by yourself? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Oh, yes. They used to have football special buses from town. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
-But you must have been the only girl on board. -Probably, yes. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
You've several different clubs, what's going on here? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Well, I went to Birmingham one week and Wolves the next. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
Because I couldn't afford to go away with Wolves very often, and so I went to Birmingham. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
This one's slightly scruffy, what was going on here? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Well, that was my very first match. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
It was a very dreary cold February and I was overjoyed at being able to go. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
-Your father had allowed you to go? -Yes. -When you went to these matches, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
as a young girl, I mean, it must have been extraordinary with no other girls there. It was all boys. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
There were one or two. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
And sometimes I used to take people with me, not football fans, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
but people who would come to keep me company. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
And I had a friend who used to stand on the terraces knitting. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
She never saw anything that went on, on the pitch, she just stood there turning | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
out her little woolly garments, while I was watching the drama. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
And then as soon as the whistle went, she'd put it back in her bag and off we'd go. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
-That's when you find out who your friends are. -Absolutely. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
An England-Denmark match. Neither of those are Wolves or Birmingham. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
-No, but it was at Wolverhampton. -Oh, is that so? -And it was a World Cup qualifier. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
And they hardly ever had World Cup qualifiers except at Wembley. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
This was interesting from my point of view, later on, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
because three of the players were killed in the Munich disaster. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
That team there, you can see, is the old Manchester United, pre-Munich. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:26 | |
-Right. -And that one is just after the Munich disaster when they were a team of anybody who they could buy. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:33 | |
-Wow, and look, it's just a complete... -Hardly anybody left. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
-No. -I mean, I was at that match, and the atmosphere was phenomenal. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
The outpouring of sympathy and grief for Manchester United had to be seen to be believed. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:48 | |
And everybody was wanting United to win. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
-Sadly, probably the most valuable ones are the Manchester United match programmes. -They are. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:57 | |
These sort of programmes are worth, | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
you know, perhaps £100, £150 each, for the really good ones. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
-Thank you so much for bringing them, it's a fascinating story. -Thanks a lot. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Well, this looks an awful lot worse than it is. I'll put your mind at ease, it isn't really a problem. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
This great big piece of walnut that's come off here, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
I'm afraid that this glue gets very, very dry, as you can see. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
It's very dry and it's just simply fallen away. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Just clean it off and as long as somebody uses a reversible wood adhesive, it can go back. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
As long as the glue's cleaned off, it'll be fine. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
And you'll never really see, it's made in two pieces anyway. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
It hasn't broken, so don't worry about that. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
But while we've got it open, look at that lock. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Lovely old early lock. Now you tell me where this has come from. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Because I think I can tell you quite a story about it. But what story can you tell me? | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
Well, I'm not 100% sure, but my aunt brought it over from the Continent in about 1935. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
She was born and bred in Czechoslovakia and brought up in Czechoslovakia. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
Its most likely provenance would have been in Czechoslovakia. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
I'm thrilled that you said Czechoslovakian parents and background, because that's wonderful. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
But what is so fantastic, you just don't see this sort of thing any more with the top part. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
-Yes. -I mean, if you go the big, big castles in Germany, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
Regensberg, Baden Baden, yes, you see this sort of thing lined up. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
Sometimes the bottom half, occasionally with the top part. It's quite rare to see the two together. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
I love this illusion pattern. Isn't it lovely? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
A sort of trompe l'oeil, three-dimensional aspect of this perspective. It's lovely. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
-What have we got in here? We'll just have a quick look. -The lock's a bit fragile. -OK, if you just hold that. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
And these release the drawers, do they? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-That's right, yes, they slide. -Oh, I see, yes. Up, and then open. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-Oh, isn't that nice? -Yes. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
-Not a secret drawer, just a way of locking it. -That's right. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
The top here is a sort of Rococo 1730-50 look, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
with this serpentine flowing shape | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
-but the bottom is Neo-Classical, isn't it? -Yes, yes. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Much more severe, rectangular shape. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
All straight lines. So this is sort of 1770-1780 in Northern Europe. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
Whereas this is 1730-50. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
So, clearly, it is late piece. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
-And they do belong together, don't they? -They do. -Yes. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
-What I love about this is that it's been in this country 70 years now, at least. -Yes. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
It's never been touched by anyone. That is the most important thing. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
I like this dirty old condition and that will affect the value. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
-Yes. -The dirt. -What, improve it or reduce it? | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
-What do you think? -Improve it, I hope. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
To me, improve it, yes. I'm going to be mean with the valuation. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
I don't want to overvalue it, because I like it a lot. But I do like it. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
I'm going to put £12,500 on for insurance. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
That's lovely. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
I inherited these, I think it's about two years ago. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
And I've always really loved them. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
I used to house-sit for a friend. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
And I used to always admire these particular figures and I was lucky enough to inherit them. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
Just visually, and I can absolutely understand why you love them, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
is because they've just got so much life in them. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
-The person who made these was in fact a woman. -Oh, right. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
And her initials are... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
CLJR Colinet. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
Claire Jeanne Roberte Colinet. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
And she was actually born in Brussels. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
And she moved to where the market was, to Paris. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
Paris was an incredibly exciting time in the early 1900s. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:41 | |
It was full of artists and artists' models, dancers. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
And it was really about the first time that society allowed women | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
in certain circles to go bare breasted without it being absolutely taboo. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
I mean, it was still very shocking but, I mean, look at her, she's absolutely fantastic. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:02 | |
And I think these models show very much a female understanding of the female. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:10 | |
I always thought so. I don't know why, it's the way they look. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
-It's the sensitivity. -Glamorous and sensitive. -They are incredibly glamorous. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
She has chosen the best figured ivory for her neck, her chest and her underarms. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:25 | |
This wonderful slight, very slight stripiness | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
which you have in good-quality ivory. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
The bronze is full of movement. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Absolutely stylistically up to the moment. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
I mean, you couldn't have more exciting, more vibrant costumes | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
than they had, you know, as their models. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
And of course the skill to get this movement, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
which, of course, is where the problem has occurred with this model. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Because she's been carved absolutely standing on her tiptoes. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
So she's had a break there. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
And her support, because her dress is very heavy, has gone, has broken. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:07 | |
And somebody has repaired that, not terribly well. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
But probably as best as they could. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
But the horrid thing is, and why it looks so bad, is it's then been painted. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
-Right. -Gosh. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Well, say no more, there is a little bit that's come off it. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
So we'll put her to one side and we'll look at this, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
the slightly bigger... the bigger model. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
I absolutely love her cap. I mean, look, it's got this wonderful plume. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
The jewel on the front, these great big, almost sort of... | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
sort of earmuffs. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
She's got a wonderful face. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
The movement with her leg, her dress is swirling out. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
And if you look at her little bolero, which is quite skimpy, you'll see that there are traces of colour. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:55 | |
Now this would have been much more colourful. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
The red would have been much more vibrant, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-there would have been more colour and I'm afraid the enamelling has worn away. -Right. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
-What I would say is these are worth restoring. -Right. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:11 | |
This one needs the most restoration. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
I think that we're talking about spending... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
Brave enough to spend 1,000? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
-Right. -OK. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
For £3,000 or more, when she's in good condition. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:29 | |
I think she, in a way, needs less restoration. And I think spend... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:36 | |
1,000... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
for maybe a retail price of £8,000 or more. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Grief! | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
So sometimes you just have to go that extra step. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
OK, it'd be worth it, I think. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
Absolutely fabulous. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
You're part of this coach party that's come from Bromsgrove. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-From Bromsgrove, yes. -What is the connection with you all? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Well, we all belong to the Health Service | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
and all so happy working together that we all joined the fellowship. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
-But you brought me this to see. -I did, yes. -How did you come by it? | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
Well, my family all came from Worcester and my mother had six sisters - | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
three were nurses and three did other work. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
And I'm the last one of the family now, so it's come down to me. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-You've inherited this. -I have. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
-And you like it, do you? -Very much, yes. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
It's a cigarette box, which you shouldn't really like, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
health people shouldn't like. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
It's a very nice lining as well, isn't it? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
It's a lovely lining, but of course the important thing about it is the plaque on top. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:42 | |
I've took it to someone and they said, "Oh, that's plastic," | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
-and dismissed it. -Good heavens, you want to dismiss them. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
-It's painted by Harry Davis. -It is Harry Davis. -My great idol at the Worcester factory. -Yes. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
And it's made by Royal Worcester, somewhere about the 1910s, '20s, something like that. | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
-It's very difficult to date because the plaque's been affixed to the top of this pewter cigarette box. -Yes. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
But it's absolutely beautiful. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Highland sheep. These sheep are up in a sort of wonderful misty Scottish setting behind there. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
-Yes. -It's beautiful, isn't it? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-Have you been to the Highlands? -Oh, yes. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-Yes, so you'll recognise scenes like this. -The mistiness, yes. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Now it's fairly valuable, do you realise that? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Well, it's valuable to me, yes. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Have you got it insured? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Only with the house insurance. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Yes, I think you should get your house insurance altered. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
-Yes. -And insure this for £2,000. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
ASTONISHED GASPS | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Thank you. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
So that'll pay for the coach going back, won't it? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-How far away's Birmingham from where we are? -About 20 miles. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
15 to 20 miles, I think. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Oh, right, so in fact these have not travelled very far. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
They started off their life in Birmingham. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-Yes. -Because there, of course, we've actually got the marks of Matthew Boulton. -Yes. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
-Boulton was a great driving force behind the Industrial Revolution. -Yes. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
And so inventive. Interestingly, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
with these chamber sticks, which are Old Sheffield Plate, I'm sure you realise that... | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
Yes. They're not solid silver, no. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
..we've actually got "Soho Patent" stamp. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
Soho, of course, was Matthew Boulton's great factory. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-Yes. -The patent here, though, is fascinating, because I can't remember seeing this one before. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:34 | |
It's got a spike at the bottom there and then of course turning that, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
that lifts up. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
And the stub of the candle is then extracted. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
I would think today you've got to think in terms of about £500 or £600 for those. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
-Each? -No, for the pair. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
For the pair, oh. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
But what excites me even more | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
is what we've got here. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
What can you tell me about this jug? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
It was bought here about 1960-1963. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
Right. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
Georgian, I think. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Yes, that's fair enough. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
And from documentary evidence I've got, it was awarded to the master of a ship. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
Well, in fact he'd lost his ship. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Gosh, so he was given this, having lost his ship? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
-Now normally you get a present when you save a ship. -It's incredible to me. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:26 | |
-It's engraved on the bottom there by the people who financed the trip and the insurers. -Extraordinary. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:33 | |
Yes, what have we got here? "The gift of respondentia lenders | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
"and underwriters on the late..." | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
I love that, "the late ship". I've never heard of a ship being referred to as a late ship before. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
"Lord Mansfield". | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
And that is "the 2nd July 1774 to Captain... | 0:24:49 | 0:24:56 | |
"William Fraser". | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
-The year after the ship was lost, roughly. -Right, right. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
But this has to be one of the finest Neo-Classic jugs I've seen. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
-Really? -Oh, it's an absolute joy. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Perfectly proportioned, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
wonderful beaded edge there. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
They're just like separate pearls on the surface. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
And then, when you look at the satyrs and | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
drapery festoons, I mean, those are brilliant. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
The acanthus leaf, most beautifully executed. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
So, you know, it's got to be somebody pretty good making this. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
And there we are, tucked right down inside | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
are the marks. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Now the actual date | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
we can see just there is 1774. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
So that's good, it ties up absolutely. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
The maker's mark, we can see practically all of it, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
is Daniel Smith and Robert Sharp. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
They produced some of the greatest Neo-Classic silver. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
What did you pay for it? | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
About £480... | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
-in 1960. -In 1960-something. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Yes, which is a fair amount of money at that stage. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
But I think there's a bit of improvement. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
This I could see quite easily going 2,500-3,000, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
possibly even more, with all that wonderful history to it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
It really is a most stunning piece. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Are you a gambler? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Sometimes, yes. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
OK, I'll tell you what we'll do. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
I'm not a gambler, I was once told to take a bet on the Grand National and I lost. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:39 | |
And I thought, "This is ridiculous, there goes £10, I'm not doing this again." But I will make an exception. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:45 | |
This has just come out of my pocket, what have we got here, 20, 40, 60, 80... There's about £100 there. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:52 | |
-I bet you £100 you haven't had these for very long. -You would be correct. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:58 | |
You owe me a hundred quid, quickest hundred quid I've ever earned. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Now let me tell you, you've been going either round fairs or auctions. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:07 | |
Yes, not recently. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
It was something I did about four to five years ago when I got the interest, to have a look at them. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:16 | |
And have you now stopped? | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
-Yes, yes. -Because? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
I stopped because I enjoyed the pieces I bought... | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
to look at and thought, "If I gain more pieces, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
-"I'm not going to have time to concentrate looking on the ones I like." -OK. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
What did you think you were buying? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
In some instances, probably very modern...um, netsukes. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:46 | |
I think there is possibly one there that is a bit old. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
-That one? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
-It isn't. -No. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
-None of them are. -No. -The whole lot are brand-new. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Yeah, I didn't think any of them were really old. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
There are millions of them about. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
I was Ardingly antiques fair yesterday, day before yesterday, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
and there was a stall there which must have had 1,000 of them on. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Now I don't mind that, because they were all wood. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
You can keep that one, you can keep that one, you can keep those. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
But you can't keep any of those. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
Why? Because they're all ivory. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
These are modern ivory - elephants are being killed for these. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
-That's it, yeah, yeah. -And you mustn't buy them. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
No problem with old ivory. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
If you want to collect old netsuke I've no problem with that at all. And so I'm delighted you've stopped. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:47 | |
Good. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Well, this is classic Roadshow. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
This is beautiful weather, wonderful grounds, lovely house, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
-smashing crowd. What more could we ask for? -Excuse me for interrupting. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
-Do excuse me. I wonder whether you'd fancy a cigarette. -Mark, a cigarette? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
-But Navy Cut, I never did smoke those. -You don't smoke? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
-Very strong, you shouldn't have those. -Filterless? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
-Oh! -Not these ones! | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
Excellent, isn't it? In fact, actually if you look at this, it borrows that Navy Cut look. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
But in fact actually this is a German toy made in the first quarter of the 20th century. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
And in fact, actually if you look at the writing on it as well, "Manufactured from Walker & Sons". | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
They didn't get that right. It wasn't perfect grammar. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Let's see it again. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
It's just a bit of fun, isn't it? | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
I think it's wonderful. It's a rare survivor that would have cost nothing when it was made. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
It's survived in someone's drawer. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
What's it worth? £10 but it's worth every bit of £10, isn't it? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Yes. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
Looking at some of these images here on the table, the posters behind us, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
they're actually images that some people will recognise, they are sort of imprinted in our brain. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:02 | |
-But it's the name of the artist that one doesn't know, Margaret Calkin James. -Exactly. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
Now Margaret Calkin James was your ma? | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
-Yes. -Tell me about her. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
Well, she was an extremely accomplished designer, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
calligrapher, painter, embroideress. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
-You name it, she had done it, really. -She had tackled it. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
-And she became a commercial artist in, I think, before 1920 with the Rainbow Workshops. -Yes, that's right. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:32 | |
-And here we've got... -Her day book. -Rainbow Workshops on the front. -Yes, yes. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
-Oh, underground posters, bluebells, this one, I presume. -That one, yes. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
That was done on April 7th. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
And it's got a nice cross through it, how satisfying to cross it through. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
-Yes, yes. -Mission accomplished. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
What else have we? Ah, that's nice, I presume that's why this one is marked Kenwood which is behind me. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
Tell me, just as a matter of interest, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
-you...were you around when these underground posters were... -Oh, yes. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
-Did you ever see them as a child in the underground? -Yes. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Tell me what that felt like. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
It was the greatest thrill. The first ones that I remember plainly walking into the underground | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
and seeing were Kenwood and its mate Box Hill. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Oh, I know Box Hill, yes. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
And there they were and I stood and looked at them and thought, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
"My mother did those!" And I was so proud. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
If one thinks of Margaret Calkin James, one thinks of colour, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:34 | |
-one thinks of geometry, one thinks of patterns. -Yes. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
And we've got all that here, and perhaps it says it most obviously in the Royal Tournament poster there. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:47 | |
-Yes, yes. -Where you have this wonderful rhythm counterbalanced with one way, the other way, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:53 | |
-the cross checking of the lances. -Yes. -And the whole thing is | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
-such a marvellous piece of mathematical design. -Yes. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
-But with movement and with life. -Yes. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
Just next to you, we've got a piece of needlework. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
How does that all fit into the scheme of things? I'm sure it's there for a reason. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
Well, that is most remarkable. 16 years before my mother's death she had a massive stroke. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:19 | |
And was she badly affected? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
-She lost her speech and the use of her right side. -Oh, dear, dear, dear. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
But she was such an indomitable person that she taught herself | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
-to do embroidery with just her left hand, on a frame. -And she was not left-handed? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
-No, no, she wasn't left handed, and she did over 200 of these small embroideries. -Which are delicious. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:43 | |
And she did this chair seat because it was worn out. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
And did she continue working right till the end? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Almost to the end, about I suppose two or three months before. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
The patterns started getting weaker, she would just do rows of different colours. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
-It was very sad to see it. -But she still had the passion to create. -Yes. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
Now I'm pleased to say that although lots of people out there don't know the name of Margaret Calkin James, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:09 | |
a good number of connoisseurs do, and her work is certainly sought after. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:15 | |
These posters would easily fetch into four figures. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:21 | |
-Really? -Definitely, without any question at all. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
So the market is there for her designs and what she produced. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:31 | |
What I hope is that in the next few years, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
people will begin to see her in the round | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
and realise that she is much more than the designer of Kenwood | 0:33:37 | 0:33:42 | |
or Trooping the Colour or Kew Gardens. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
I think that in the next ten years, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Margaret Calkin James will be a name that everybody knows. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
Well, that's very encouraging of you to say so. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
It's lovely to see blue and white together, it makes a wonderful colour. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
-Yes. -Especially out in the sunshine, it looks beautiful, doesn't it? All through the family? | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
Yes, indeed. Came from my great-great-grandmother. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
And it passed down through the family | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
and came to me because I had a cabinet to put it in. I ended up with the collection. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
Oh, do you like it as well? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
-Yes, I think it's lovely. We're particularly interested in this piece here. -This one here? | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
Yes. This is almost an odd one out, isn't it? | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
-Very much so. -It's all Worcester. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Oh, is it? | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Say from the start. Yes, you've got a butter pot | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
and cover but without its stand. It should have a stand, you haven't got the round stand to it? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
I think we have. I thought it was a separate plate. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
Good. No, it's the stand for the pot. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
Oh, right, well, we've got that too. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
-This is a mug for drinking cider. -Oh, right. -Do you drink cider? -Oh, yes. -Yes. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
Well, it's jolly good stuff. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
And a nice teapot. Worcester teapots I think are the most perfect shape. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
-Yes. -And this is wonderful, isn't it? -Isn't that pretty? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
This is a beautiful basket with the pine cone pattern. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
This is transfer printed and beautiful. That's a lovely piece. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
And this one is a spoon tray | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
for putting the spoon on, part of a tea set. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
-You carry the spoon around and give it to somebody to stir their tea with. -Oh, I see. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
And one of the later pieces of this - | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
these are all in the 1770s-1780s - | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
this one is almost in the 1790s, has a little pattern mark, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
a factory mark of a disguised numeral and for a spoon tray it's unusual. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
And this is the quite unusual pot, yes. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
We don't know what that is. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
I wondered whether they put crystals in, a towel over their head and sniffed it. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-Yes, we used... -Friar's Balsam or something. -Friar's Balsam... | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
BOTH: ..to clear the head. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
-No, no, no. -Wrong guess. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Wrong guess, what else did you think it was? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
-Shaving mug. -A shaving mug! | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
It's actually an inkwell. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:52 | |
-Oh, right. -A desk inkwell, yes, you have a little glass pot in there | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
which you keep the ink in, as ink is very corrosive. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
And in here are wafers for sealing your letter | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
and sand to dry them up, and the pens go in there. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
-I see. -So there you are. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
The unusual thing about it, it is Worcester, it's got a little tiny crescent, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
in date about 1785-1790. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
But it's an unfinished pattern. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
It shouldn't just be lines of blue. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
I think that it should have been gilded, lines of gold to make it...and gold round the rim. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:29 | |
-It would look very smart. -Yes. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
You know? But for some reason or other, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
it left the factory without being gilded. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
Perhaps it was a little damaged, got little blemishes on it. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
-Yes. -And they said, "Oh, to hell with this, we won't finish it off." -Oh, I see. -"We'll just sell it." | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
I suppose cheap as a second or something, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
-and somebody used it as an inkpot. -Yes. -You've got some unusual pieces. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Some ordinary pieces, but beautiful. None of these are phenomenally valuable. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
-I mean, the basket is probably going to be what, sort of £400, something like that. -Gosh. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
-The mug, a very, very pretty mug, 300 to 400. -Heavens! | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
Teapot the same. The butter dish... | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
If you can find the little stand for it to sit on, it's going to be about 600 with the whole thing. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:15 | |
-Good heavens! -Spoon tray 200 or 300. -We'd better get them insured. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
And the ink pot is very unusual. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
I don't know what that's worth because it's unfinished. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
I would have a guesstimate of about, say...I don't know, 400. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
-Wow. -You've got a few thousand. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
I was going to bring them on my bicycle in my rucksack but I couldn't. Glad I came in the car. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
It's really hot, but what a view. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
That's going to cool you down, isn't it? | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
-I love it. -Do you? -I do. -What do you love most about this completely wonderful painting? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
The way you can see through to the valley beyond. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
This hoosh, that rainbow, that boat and its tiny tender and the waterfall and... | 0:37:55 | 0:38:02 | |
-where do you want me to stop? -Well, because it just goes on for ever, doesn't it? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:07 | |
The detail of it is extraordinary. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
You can completely lose yourself in this. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Everywhere you look there's another extraordinary, almost cataclysmic vision of weather. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:18 | |
You've got the clouds parting here to allow | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
a wisp of cloud over that distant and almost horrific jagged edge of cliff. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:27 | |
You've got this amazing mist driving up this | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
valley here and out of it coming this splintering, scintillating waterfall | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
down to this unbelievable cool, placid, calm loch | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
with a great big ship in it so far down. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
And then, over here, I love this vertiginous bit here, this rock just... Isn't it extraordinary? | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
You want to push it over the edge and yet you know it's massive | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
and vast along with the rest of this huge landscape. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
And then this wonderful rainbow in that mist, and just look at it. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
And it goes on for ever. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
I mean...it's magical. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
You can dream of trolls living in here. You can think what you like about it. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
-But, overall, it's a symphony of different weather conditions, isn't it? -Absolutely. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:12 | |
Quite, quite lovely. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
So, it's by Alfred William Hunt and we can see bottom right there. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
And it's signed and dated 1869, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
which has got to be the heyday of this artist's career. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
Now, he was a very interesting chap, born in Liverpool. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
-He's a Liverpool artist. -Right. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
But he went to Oxford | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
and was a very well-educated man and really he was a scholar and a poet. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
I think that tells you a lot about the way he's seeing this landscape, because he's seeing it poetically. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:46 | |
I mean, this is a series of beautiful stanzas of poetry | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
about the weather and the landscape and the magnificent mountains. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
I can't tell you how modern this picture would have been for 1869. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
If you'd gone into the exhibition where this was shown and seen it, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
you'd go, "Wow! That's new, I've never seen anything like that before". | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
It's because he's looking forward - he's a Modernist really. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
He's looking forward, finding a new way of expressing his emotion | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
and his, er, reaction to the landscape. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Anyway, a wonderful painting, completely wonderful painting and what's more, you know, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
not known to academia. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
-This is a lost masterpiece. There's been an exhibition just literally. -Don't tell him. -What? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
-Don't tell him. -Don't tell anyone. -Don't tell anyone. OK, it'll be our secret. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
But it's been lost for hundreds of years. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
You knew where it was... and one or two others. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
There's been an exhibition in the Ashmolean Museum just earlier this year | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
of this artist's work and they didn't know anything about it. Nothing. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
They knew it existed but they didn't know it still existed, or where it was. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
How did it get into your family? | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
Grandfather used to drive ships around the place and when he came back from America he was very rich. | 0:40:54 | 0:41:00 | |
A-ha! There's money in ships, money in ships, can be. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
He bought lots of pictures and things he liked and when he died, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
it sort of came down the family to us. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
-And it's been on your walls ever since. -Yes. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
How wonderful. Ever had it valued? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-No. -Not at all. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
-Probate value. -And what was that? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
-About 5,000. -5,000-ish? Yeah, yeah. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
Well, I can imagine how that would be. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Now, I think probably a picture this good, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
this rare, of this date, by this artist... | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
at least £40,000. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
Good grief. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
Is there a doctor in the house? | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
And the rest. I mean, that is conservative. That is conservative. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
It is that good. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
I think if two people got carried away, I can see it doing 60,000...easily. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:57 | |
It's really, really beautiful. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
I might be able to buy that cottage then. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
That would be nice. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:05 | |
Well, people come to the Roadshow in twos and threes, families etc, but look at this crowd of people. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
-Where have you all come from? -Bromsgrove, Redditch. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
-Is that far away? -Not very far, no. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
-Eight to 12 miles. -How many of you are there? | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
-39, 40. -39, 40. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
-It's grown since you've got here. Have you had a good day at the -Roadshow? ALL: Lovely, thanks. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
-And has anyone had any really good news? -ALL: Yes, yes, Sheila. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
-You have. -I did indeed, yes. -Really, what happened? | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
It was a...a box I had that Arthur Sandon valued for me over £2,000. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:40 | |
Henry Sandon, was this? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-Sandon senior. -Yes. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
-He knows what he's talking about. So, a successful day for you? -It was indeed, yes. -And everyone else? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
-Yes, lovely. -But you're desperate to get home. So thanks for coming. And you're welcome any other time. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:54 | |
All aboard. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
You don't have to tip, but anything's welcome. Thank you. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Well, everyone else has gone home, so I might as well. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
See you soon, bye. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 |