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Today the Roadshow has come to a location that has its own dramatic place in history,

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having played a vital role in the ultimate political thriller of its day.

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This story has all the necessary ingredients -

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charismatic heroes and villains,

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outlaws on the run,

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betrayal, torture and death.

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Add to that list "gunpowder, treason and plot" and you'll know the rest.

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Two churches that lie side by side here at Coughton Court in Warwickshire

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offer clues as to what sparked off the whole affair.

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November 5th 1605 was a turning point in religious history,

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marked these days by spectacular entertainment for all the family.

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But Guy Fawkes wasn't in the Gunpowder Plot alone.

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There were 13 plotters in all

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and several were kinsmen of the Throckmorton family,

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who've lived at Coughton Court for over 600 years.

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When news reached them that the plot to blow up Parliament had failed,

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Fawkes's fellow conspirators gathered here in the blue drawing room, to discuss tactics.

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They decided to ride north but they were followed by the king's soldiers and rounded up for execution.

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What led these men to become desperadoes, determined to overthrow the crown?

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They were Catholics and victims of a harsh regime imposed on their religion

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which had begun during the reign of Henry VIII.

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They wanted to practise their faith without fear of persecution.

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Which brings us back to Coughton Court's two churches.

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This one, the original Catholic church,

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was seized and handed over to the Church of England during the Reformation.

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It took 300 years for Catholicism to be officially recognised again.

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And in 1853 the Throckmortons built a new church next door.

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During those 300 years,

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many Catholic houses continued to worship in secret. The penalty was death.

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As you might expect, the framework of Coughton Court contains a number of secret hiding places.

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Visiting priests would take refuge when the authorities came knocking.

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Here, two compartments, one above the other, were hollowed out.

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Their design was so cunning that not one of the secret occupants was ever discovered.

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Turbulent times required a vigilant lookout.

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Today, I've got a bird's-eye view as the gentlefolk of Warwickshire arrive for the Roadshow.

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An historic one, of course.

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I think if this were mine I'd hang it in the larder.

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-Where have you got it?

-It's in the hall.

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-In the hall?

-In the hall.

-Do you like it?

-I love it.

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-You've got a macabre sense of humour, have you?

-Possibly, yes.

-You and the Japanese both.

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-I think it's FANTASTIC! It's a real goody.

-It is, isn't it?

-Where did it come from?

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A friend of mine, when he was seriously ill.

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-He knew I'd always admired it and he came round one night and asked if I'd like to keep it.

-No!

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-Isn't that wonderful?

-That was lovely. He said that when he'd had a few drinks, he saw them dance.

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And he'd seen them dance many times.

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-It's a great idea.

-Yes.

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The Japanese do actually have quite a macabre sense of humour.

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And the West actually like the sort of mad Japanese sense of humour

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and their stories and their legends.

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And the two came together. This would never have been made for a Japanese house.

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This is the Japanese making for the Western market.

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They were so skilled, the Japanese ivory carvers. This is ivory.

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Quite often they're bone, the lesser-quality ones are bone. Here with humour,

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we've got the ringmaster with a fan.

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-And the fan is not a complete fan.

-No.

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-They've made it purposely with bits out of it, which is brilliant.

-Tatty.

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This is in mother-of-pearl, abalone shell, and he's got a scarf on his head the same.

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Here we've got something, I don't know whether it's a young human

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jumping through the hoop or whether it's supposed to be a dog. But, whatever, there it goes.

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They're being entertained by another skeleton playing a samisen.

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Samisen is a three-stringed instrument. "Sen"

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is three, one, two, three strings down here.

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And another one playing a drum and the drum's got no skin.

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It goes straight through, it's just wonderful.

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Problems, we've lost a foot here.

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-I vacced it up.

-You what?

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It fell off and without realising it I vacced it up in the vacuum cleaner.

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I know.

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-Well, that's not good news.

-No.

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What's happening is the glue, which is made of fishbones and scales,

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is after... What date's this? 1885.

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..is breaking down.

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And that's a problem.

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Um, it would be possible to get that recarved. It would not be cheap.

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But it would be doable, and frankly it deserves a new foot.

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I love it, I think it's a great, great thing.

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I've never seen another one like it and that's in 30 years of playing this game.

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So I think that would... would sell extraordinarily well.

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I think it would make at auction somewhere between £5,000 and £8,000.

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That's absolutely wonderful. Absolutely wonderful, thank you very much.

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Now what is in this lovely Christmassy box?

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Is it one of your treasures?

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No, it belongs to my father and it was his mother's before that.

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Oh!

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Nice bit of ancient, ancient tissue. Oh, he's great, isn't he?

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Let me just wind him up and put him down on the table.

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Does he stagger about a bit too?

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Yes, I think we've all seen people like this on Christmas or New Year's Eve, haven't we?

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Well, let me tell you a little bit about him

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as he ricochets around the table.

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He's made by a company called Fernand Martin.

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Which sounds like an English company but was French.

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And, ooh, hang on.

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Oh, that's nice. Look here, this will tell us all about it.

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Here's the name, "Le Pochard", the drunkard.

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And here we have all the details about the maker, FM, Fernand Martin.

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And the date here of 1900.

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So we know it's after 1900.

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We can also see that he's called Nellie. Who's Nellie?

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Nellie's my grandmother.

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Your grandmother. So he was bought for her, presumably.

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-Presumably, yes.

-I mean, it's quite a strange present to give to a child, this particular toy. Don't you think?

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Well, I've always thought so, yes. Especially as we're a strict Methodist teetotal family.

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-Oh, perhaps it was to show the dangers of drink.

-Perhaps so.

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THEY CHUCKLE

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Now, what about the value?

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I wonder what your great-grandfather paid for it when he bought it for your grandmother.

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A few shillings, perhaps.

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But today, this particular company, Fernand Martin, is very much sought after.

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And I would have thought we're talking about perhaps £400 or £500 with this box lid.

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Wow.

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Well, they do tend to say that dogs look like their owners.

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I'm not sure if this dog looks like its owner, but it looks like that little dog. What's the story?

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First of all, she was the daughter of a mill owner in Lancashire.

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And she married PT Barnum, the famous circus man.

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-That must have been exciting.

-She was 23 and he was 63. So there was quite a...

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Sounds right.

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After he died - and they had quite a happy marriage, I think, for about 18 years - she was left very rich.

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She then married, they say for love, but unfortunately the Greek diplomat died after 11 months.

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She moved to Paris and she married the Baron Alexandi Doningani.

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-And she had this little dog called Follette.

-Right.

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And I presume when Follette died, she had this brooch made from it.

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I don't know much about this brooch but I believe it's called an Essex.

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-I don't know what an Essex is.

-When was this photo taken?

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1920s, I should think. I think she died 1928.

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Mmm, and how did you come by this delightful little object?

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Well, my great-grandmother, who I remember, she died when I was ten, was the residual legatee.

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Although she married three times, she had no children.

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-This lady?

-Yes.

-Well, that's interesting

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because I would have thought that, rather than having had this made,

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-she probably found it, thought it looked exactly like Follette and bought it.

-Right.

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Because these usually date from a considerably earlier period.

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And it's quite right, it is called an Essex crystal after William Essex

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who actually painted porcelain, so I've never quite worked out why these are called that.

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But how these are done is very interesting because they're all carved out from behind.

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-Not painted?

-No, it's carved from behind.

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Carved from behind.

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And it's quite three-dimensional.

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When you look at them sideways you can see that the carving occupies all of the thickness of the rock crystal.

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-Rock crystal, not glass?

-No, rock crystal.

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And then painted with a very, very fine brush, very fine brushes.

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And he's got a little border of raised cut diamonds.

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And he's wearing his dog collar.

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-Yes.

-And he's wearing it there too.

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-Is it French?

-No, I would say it was English.

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And they're usually about 1870-1880.

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1870-1880?

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They're quite sought after.

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And as it's a particularly charming subject,

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and a very popular one,

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I'd value this for insurance at about 2,000 today.

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2,000 today?

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Yes, the last we heard was about 800 or something, yes.

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-It's lovely, thank you very much for bringing it along.

-Thank you.

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-We get a lot of football programmes turning up.

-Yes.

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-But what's particularly unusual is that they're all yours.

-Yes.

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-I don't collect football programmes, I don't collect football memorabilia.

-You don't?

-No. No.

-So?

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-They're all mine.

-They're all yours?

-Oh, yes.

-So you've been to all these matches?

-Yeah.

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I've got three sons and I take my sons off to the football quite often.

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But wasn't it slightly unusual for a girl to be going to football?

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It was most unusual.

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-And how did it all start then?

-I don't know, my father was very keen on football.

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He was a very good player who could have turned professional.

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And I got very keen on football.

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And my first great football hero was Stanley Matthews.

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Right, well, we have him here.

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And I actually went to Villa Park one day, just to see Stanley Matthews play.

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And how old were you then?

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-13, 14.

-Really?

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-Yes.

-And you went by yourself?

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Oh, yes. They used to have football special buses from town.

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-But you must have been the only girl on board.

-Probably, yes.

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You've several different clubs, what's going on here?

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Well, I went to Birmingham one week and Wolves the next.

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Because I couldn't afford to go away with Wolves very often, and so I went to Birmingham.

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This one's slightly scruffy, what was going on here?

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Well, that was my very first match.

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It was a very dreary cold February and I was overjoyed at being able to go.

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-Your father had allowed you to go?

-Yes.

-When you went to these matches,

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as a young girl, I mean, it must have been extraordinary with no other girls there. It was all boys.

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There were one or two.

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And sometimes I used to take people with me, not football fans,

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but people who would come to keep me company.

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And I had a friend who used to stand on the terraces knitting.

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She never saw anything that went on, on the pitch, she just stood there turning

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out her little woolly garments, while I was watching the drama.

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And then as soon as the whistle went, she'd put it back in her bag and off we'd go.

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-That's when you find out who your friends are.

-Absolutely.

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An England-Denmark match. Neither of those are Wolves or Birmingham.

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-No, but it was at Wolverhampton.

-Oh, is that so?

-And it was a World Cup qualifier.

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And they hardly ever had World Cup qualifiers except at Wembley.

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This was interesting from my point of view, later on,

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because three of the players were killed in the Munich disaster.

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That team there, you can see, is the old Manchester United, pre-Munich.

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-Right.

-And that one is just after the Munich disaster when they were a team of anybody who they could buy.

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-Wow, and look, it's just a complete...

-Hardly anybody left.

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-No.

-I mean, I was at that match, and the atmosphere was phenomenal.

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The outpouring of sympathy and grief for Manchester United had to be seen to be believed.

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And everybody was wanting United to win.

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-Sadly, probably the most valuable ones are the Manchester United match programmes.

-They are.

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These sort of programmes are worth,

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you know, perhaps £100, £150 each, for the really good ones.

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-Thank you so much for bringing them, it's a fascinating story.

-Thanks a lot.

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Well, this looks an awful lot worse than it is. I'll put your mind at ease, it isn't really a problem.

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This great big piece of walnut that's come off here,

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I'm afraid that this glue gets very, very dry, as you can see.

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It's very dry and it's just simply fallen away.

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Just clean it off and as long as somebody uses a reversible wood adhesive, it can go back.

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As long as the glue's cleaned off, it'll be fine.

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And you'll never really see, it's made in two pieces anyway.

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It hasn't broken, so don't worry about that.

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But while we've got it open, look at that lock.

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Lovely old early lock. Now you tell me where this has come from.

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Because I think I can tell you quite a story about it. But what story can you tell me?

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Well, I'm not 100% sure, but my aunt brought it over from the Continent in about 1935.

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She was born and bred in Czechoslovakia and brought up in Czechoslovakia.

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Its most likely provenance would have been in Czechoslovakia.

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I'm thrilled that you said Czechoslovakian parents and background, because that's wonderful.

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But what is so fantastic, you just don't see this sort of thing any more with the top part.

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-Yes.

-I mean, if you go the big, big castles in Germany,

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Regensberg, Baden Baden, yes, you see this sort of thing lined up.

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Sometimes the bottom half, occasionally with the top part. It's quite rare to see the two together.

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I love this illusion pattern. Isn't it lovely?

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A sort of trompe l'oeil, three-dimensional aspect of this perspective. It's lovely.

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-What have we got in here? We'll just have a quick look.

-The lock's a bit fragile.

-OK, if you just hold that.

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And these release the drawers, do they?

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-That's right, yes, they slide.

-Oh, I see, yes. Up, and then open.

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-Oh, isn't that nice?

-Yes.

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-Not a secret drawer, just a way of locking it.

-That's right.

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The top here is a sort of Rococo 1730-50 look,

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with this serpentine flowing shape

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-but the bottom is Neo-Classical, isn't it?

-Yes, yes.

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Much more severe, rectangular shape.

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All straight lines. So this is sort of 1770-1780 in Northern Europe.

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Whereas this is 1730-50.

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So, clearly, it is late piece.

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-And they do belong together, don't they?

-They do.

-Yes.

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-What I love about this is that it's been in this country 70 years now, at least.

-Yes.

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It's never been touched by anyone. That is the most important thing.

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I like this dirty old condition and that will affect the value.

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-Yes.

-The dirt.

-What, improve it or reduce it?

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-What do you think?

-Improve it, I hope.

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To me, improve it, yes. I'm going to be mean with the valuation.

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I don't want to overvalue it, because I like it a lot. But I do like it.

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I'm going to put £12,500 on for insurance.

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That's lovely.

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Thank you very much indeed.

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I inherited these, I think it's about two years ago.

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And I've always really loved them.

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I used to house-sit for a friend.

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And I used to always admire these particular figures and I was lucky enough to inherit them.

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Just visually, and I can absolutely understand why you love them,

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is because they've just got so much life in them.

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-The person who made these was in fact a woman.

-Oh, right.

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And her initials are...

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CLJR Colinet.

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Claire Jeanne Roberte Colinet.

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And she was actually born in Brussels.

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And she moved to where the market was, to Paris.

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Paris was an incredibly exciting time in the early 1900s.

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It was full of artists and artists' models, dancers.

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And it was really about the first time that society allowed women

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in certain circles to go bare breasted without it being absolutely taboo.

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I mean, it was still very shocking but, I mean, look at her, she's absolutely fantastic.

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And I think these models show very much a female understanding of the female.

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I always thought so. I don't know why, it's the way they look.

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-It's the sensitivity.

-Glamorous and sensitive.

-They are incredibly glamorous.

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She has chosen the best figured ivory for her neck, her chest and her underarms.

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This wonderful slight, very slight stripiness

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which you have in good-quality ivory.

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The bronze is full of movement.

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Absolutely stylistically up to the moment.

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I mean, you couldn't have more exciting, more vibrant costumes

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than they had, you know, as their models.

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And of course the skill to get this movement,

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which, of course, is where the problem has occurred with this model.

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Because she's been carved absolutely standing on her tiptoes.

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So she's had a break there.

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And her support, because her dress is very heavy, has gone, has broken.

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And somebody has repaired that, not terribly well.

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But probably as best as they could.

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But the horrid thing is, and why it looks so bad, is it's then been painted.

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-Right.

-Gosh.

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Well, say no more, there is a little bit that's come off it.

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So we'll put her to one side and we'll look at this,

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the slightly bigger... the bigger model.

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I absolutely love her cap. I mean, look, it's got this wonderful plume.

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The jewel on the front, these great big, almost sort of...

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sort of earmuffs.

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She's got a wonderful face.

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The movement with her leg, her dress is swirling out.

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And if you look at her little bolero, which is quite skimpy, you'll see that there are traces of colour.

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Now this would have been much more colourful.

0:19:550:19:58

The red would have been much more vibrant,

0:19:580:20:01

-there would have been more colour and I'm afraid the enamelling has worn away.

-Right.

0:20:010:20:05

-What I would say is these are worth restoring.

-Right.

0:20:050:20:11

This one needs the most restoration.

0:20:110:20:14

I think that we're talking about spending...

0:20:140:20:18

Brave enough to spend 1,000?

0:20:180:20:21

-Right.

-OK.

0:20:210:20:23

For £3,000 or more, when she's in good condition.

0:20:230:20:29

I think she, in a way, needs less restoration. And I think spend...

0:20:290:20:36

1,000...

0:20:360:20:39

for maybe a retail price of £8,000 or more.

0:20:390:20:43

Grief!

0:20:430:20:45

So sometimes you just have to go that extra step.

0:20:450:20:49

OK, it'd be worth it, I think.

0:20:490:20:52

Absolutely fabulous.

0:20:520:20:54

You're part of this coach party that's come from Bromsgrove.

0:20:550:20:59

-From Bromsgrove, yes.

-What is the connection with you all?

0:20:590:21:02

Well, we all belong to the Health Service

0:21:020:21:05

and all so happy working together that we all joined the fellowship.

0:21:050:21:09

-But you brought me this to see.

-I did, yes.

-How did you come by it?

0:21:090:21:13

Well, my family all came from Worcester and my mother had six sisters -

0:21:130:21:17

three were nurses and three did other work.

0:21:170:21:20

And I'm the last one of the family now, so it's come down to me.

0:21:200:21:23

-You've inherited this.

-I have.

0:21:230:21:25

-And you like it, do you?

-Very much, yes.

0:21:250:21:27

It's a cigarette box, which you shouldn't really like,

0:21:270:21:30

health people shouldn't like.

0:21:300:21:33

It's a very nice lining as well, isn't it?

0:21:330:21:35

It's a lovely lining, but of course the important thing about it is the plaque on top.

0:21:350:21:42

I've took it to someone and they said, "Oh, that's plastic,"

0:21:420:21:45

-and dismissed it.

-Good heavens, you want to dismiss them.

0:21:450:21:49

-It's painted by Harry Davis.

-It is Harry Davis.

-My great idol at the Worcester factory.

-Yes.

0:21:490:21:54

And it's made by Royal Worcester, somewhere about the 1910s, '20s, something like that.

0:21:540:22:00

-It's very difficult to date because the plaque's been affixed to the top of this pewter cigarette box.

-Yes.

0:22:000:22:06

But it's absolutely beautiful.

0:22:060:22:08

Highland sheep. These sheep are up in a sort of wonderful misty Scottish setting behind there.

0:22:080:22:13

-Yes.

-It's beautiful, isn't it?

0:22:130:22:15

-Have you been to the Highlands?

-Oh, yes.

0:22:150:22:18

-Yes, so you'll recognise scenes like this.

-The mistiness, yes.

0:22:180:22:22

Now it's fairly valuable, do you realise that?

0:22:220:22:25

Well, it's valuable to me, yes.

0:22:250:22:27

Have you got it insured?

0:22:270:22:29

Only with the house insurance.

0:22:290:22:31

Yes, I think you should get your house insurance altered.

0:22:310:22:35

-Yes.

-And insure this for £2,000.

0:22:350:22:39

ASTONISHED GASPS

0:22:390:22:41

Thank you.

0:22:410:22:43

So that'll pay for the coach going back, won't it?

0:22:430:22:46

-How far away's Birmingham from where we are?

-About 20 miles.

0:22:480:22:51

15 to 20 miles, I think.

0:22:510:22:53

Oh, right, so in fact these have not travelled very far.

0:22:530:22:58

They started off their life in Birmingham.

0:22:580:23:01

-Yes.

-Because there, of course, we've actually got the marks of Matthew Boulton.

-Yes.

0:23:010:23:06

-Boulton was a great driving force behind the Industrial Revolution.

-Yes.

0:23:060:23:10

And so inventive. Interestingly,

0:23:100:23:12

with these chamber sticks, which are Old Sheffield Plate, I'm sure you realise that...

0:23:120:23:17

Yes. They're not solid silver, no.

0:23:170:23:19

..we've actually got "Soho Patent" stamp.

0:23:190:23:24

Soho, of course, was Matthew Boulton's great factory.

0:23:240:23:27

-Yes.

-The patent here, though, is fascinating, because I can't remember seeing this one before.

0:23:270:23:34

It's got a spike at the bottom there and then of course turning that,

0:23:340:23:39

that lifts up.

0:23:390:23:41

And the stub of the candle is then extracted.

0:23:410:23:45

I would think today you've got to think in terms of about £500 or £600 for those.

0:23:450:23:49

-Each?

-No, for the pair.

0:23:490:23:51

For the pair, oh.

0:23:510:23:53

But what excites me even more

0:23:530:23:56

is what we've got here.

0:23:560:23:58

What can you tell me about this jug?

0:23:580:24:00

It was bought here about 1960-1963.

0:24:000:24:05

Right.

0:24:050:24:06

Georgian, I think.

0:24:060:24:08

Yes, that's fair enough.

0:24:080:24:09

And from documentary evidence I've got, it was awarded to the master of a ship.

0:24:090:24:15

Well, in fact he'd lost his ship.

0:24:150:24:17

Gosh, so he was given this, having lost his ship?

0:24:170:24:20

-Now normally you get a present when you save a ship.

-It's incredible to me.

0:24:200:24:26

-It's engraved on the bottom there by the people who financed the trip and the insurers.

-Extraordinary.

0:24:260:24:33

Yes, what have we got here? "The gift of respondentia lenders

0:24:330:24:37

"and underwriters on the late..."

0:24:370:24:40

I love that, "the late ship". I've never heard of a ship being referred to as a late ship before.

0:24:420:24:47

"Lord Mansfield".

0:24:470:24:49

And that is "the 2nd July 1774 to Captain...

0:24:490:24:56

"William Fraser".

0:24:560:24:58

-The year after the ship was lost, roughly.

-Right, right.

0:24:580:25:02

But this has to be one of the finest Neo-Classic jugs I've seen.

0:25:020:25:07

-Really?

-Oh, it's an absolute joy.

0:25:070:25:11

Perfectly proportioned,

0:25:110:25:14

wonderful beaded edge there.

0:25:140:25:16

They're just like separate pearls on the surface.

0:25:160:25:20

And then, when you look at the satyrs and

0:25:200:25:22

drapery festoons, I mean, those are brilliant.

0:25:220:25:26

The acanthus leaf, most beautifully executed.

0:25:260:25:29

So, you know, it's got to be somebody pretty good making this.

0:25:290:25:33

And there we are, tucked right down inside

0:25:330:25:37

are the marks.

0:25:370:25:39

Now the actual date

0:25:390:25:41

we can see just there is 1774.

0:25:410:25:45

So that's good, it ties up absolutely.

0:25:450:25:48

The maker's mark, we can see practically all of it,

0:25:480:25:51

is Daniel Smith and Robert Sharp.

0:25:510:25:54

They produced some of the greatest Neo-Classic silver.

0:25:540:25:57

What did you pay for it?

0:25:570:26:00

About £480...

0:26:000:26:03

-in 1960.

-In 1960-something.

0:26:030:26:05

Yes, which is a fair amount of money at that stage.

0:26:050:26:08

But I think there's a bit of improvement.

0:26:080:26:11

This I could see quite easily going 2,500-3,000,

0:26:110:26:16

possibly even more, with all that wonderful history to it.

0:26:160:26:20

It really is a most stunning piece.

0:26:200:26:23

Are you a gambler?

0:26:240:26:26

Sometimes, yes.

0:26:260:26:29

OK, I'll tell you what we'll do.

0:26:290:26:31

I'm not a gambler, I was once told to take a bet on the Grand National and I lost.

0:26:320:26:39

And I thought, "This is ridiculous, there goes £10, I'm not doing this again." But I will make an exception.

0:26:390:26:45

This has just come out of my pocket, what have we got here, 20, 40, 60, 80... There's about £100 there.

0:26:450:26:52

-I bet you £100 you haven't had these for very long.

-You would be correct.

0:26:520:26:58

You owe me a hundred quid, quickest hundred quid I've ever earned.

0:26:580:27:01

Now let me tell you, you've been going either round fairs or auctions.

0:27:010:27:07

Yes, not recently.

0:27:070:27:09

It was something I did about four to five years ago when I got the interest, to have a look at them.

0:27:090:27:16

And have you now stopped?

0:27:160:27:19

-Yes, yes.

-Because?

0:27:190:27:21

I stopped because I enjoyed the pieces I bought...

0:27:210:27:26

to look at and thought, "If I gain more pieces,

0:27:260:27:31

-"I'm not going to have time to concentrate looking on the ones I like."

-OK.

0:27:310:27:35

What did you think you were buying?

0:27:350:27:39

In some instances, probably very modern...um, netsukes.

0:27:400:27:46

I think there is possibly one there that is a bit old.

0:27:470:27:52

-That one?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:27:550:27:57

-It isn't.

-No.

0:27:570:27:59

-None of them are.

-No.

-The whole lot are brand-new.

0:27:590:28:02

Yeah, I didn't think any of them were really old.

0:28:020:28:05

There are millions of them about.

0:28:050:28:07

I was Ardingly antiques fair yesterday, day before yesterday,

0:28:070:28:12

and there was a stall there which must have had 1,000 of them on.

0:28:120:28:16

-Yeah, yeah.

-Now I don't mind that, because they were all wood.

0:28:160:28:21

You can keep that one, you can keep that one, you can keep those.

0:28:210:28:26

But you can't keep any of those.

0:28:260:28:28

Why? Because they're all ivory.

0:28:280:28:30

These are modern ivory - elephants are being killed for these.

0:28:300:28:35

-That's it, yeah, yeah.

-And you mustn't buy them.

0:28:350:28:38

No problem with old ivory.

0:28:380:28:40

If you want to collect old netsuke I've no problem with that at all. And so I'm delighted you've stopped.

0:28:400:28:47

Good.

0:28:480:28:50

Well, this is classic Roadshow.

0:28:500:28:52

This is beautiful weather, wonderful grounds, lovely house,

0:28:520:28:55

-smashing crowd. What more could we ask for?

-Excuse me for interrupting.

0:28:550:28:59

-Do excuse me. I wonder whether you'd fancy a cigarette.

-Mark, a cigarette?

0:28:590:29:03

-But Navy Cut, I never did smoke those.

-You don't smoke?

0:29:030:29:07

-Very strong, you shouldn't have those.

-Filterless?

0:29:070:29:10

-Oh!

-Not these ones!

0:29:100:29:12

LAUGHTER

0:29:120:29:13

Excellent, isn't it? In fact, actually if you look at this, it borrows that Navy Cut look.

0:29:130:29:19

But in fact actually this is a German toy made in the first quarter of the 20th century.

0:29:190:29:24

And in fact, actually if you look at the writing on it as well, "Manufactured from Walker & Sons".

0:29:240:29:29

They didn't get that right. It wasn't perfect grammar.

0:29:290:29:32

Let's see it again.

0:29:320:29:35

It's just a bit of fun, isn't it?

0:29:350:29:37

I think it's wonderful. It's a rare survivor that would have cost nothing when it was made.

0:29:370:29:41

It's survived in someone's drawer.

0:29:410:29:43

What's it worth? £10 but it's worth every bit of £10, isn't it?

0:29:430:29:47

Yes.

0:29:470:29:49

Looking at some of these images here on the table, the posters behind us,

0:29:520:29:56

they're actually images that some people will recognise, they are sort of imprinted in our brain.

0:29:560:30:02

-But it's the name of the artist that one doesn't know, Margaret Calkin James.

-Exactly.

0:30:020:30:07

Now Margaret Calkin James was your ma?

0:30:070:30:09

-Yes.

-Tell me about her.

0:30:090:30:13

Well, she was an extremely accomplished designer,

0:30:130:30:17

calligrapher, painter, embroideress.

0:30:170:30:21

-You name it, she had done it, really.

-She had tackled it.

0:30:210:30:25

-And she became a commercial artist in, I think, before 1920 with the Rainbow Workshops.

-Yes, that's right.

0:30:250:30:32

-And here we've got...

-Her day book.

-Rainbow Workshops on the front.

-Yes, yes.

0:30:320:30:37

-Oh, underground posters, bluebells, this one, I presume.

-That one, yes.

0:30:370:30:42

That was done on April 7th.

0:30:420:30:46

And it's got a nice cross through it, how satisfying to cross it through.

0:30:460:30:49

-Yes, yes.

-Mission accomplished.

0:30:490:30:51

What else have we? Ah, that's nice, I presume that's why this one is marked Kenwood which is behind me.

0:30:510:30:57

Tell me, just as a matter of interest,

0:30:570:31:00

-you...were you around when these underground posters were...

-Oh, yes.

0:31:000:31:05

-Did you ever see them as a child in the underground?

-Yes.

0:31:050:31:08

Tell me what that felt like.

0:31:080:31:10

It was the greatest thrill. The first ones that I remember plainly walking into the underground

0:31:100:31:15

and seeing were Kenwood and its mate Box Hill.

0:31:150:31:18

Oh, I know Box Hill, yes.

0:31:180:31:20

And there they were and I stood and looked at them and thought,

0:31:200:31:24

"My mother did those!" And I was so proud.

0:31:240:31:27

If one thinks of Margaret Calkin James, one thinks of colour,

0:31:270:31:34

-one thinks of geometry, one thinks of patterns.

-Yes.

0:31:340:31:39

And we've got all that here, and perhaps it says it most obviously in the Royal Tournament poster there.

0:31:390:31:47

-Yes, yes.

-Where you have this wonderful rhythm counterbalanced with one way, the other way,

0:31:470:31:53

-the cross checking of the lances.

-Yes.

-And the whole thing is

0:31:530:31:56

-such a marvellous piece of mathematical design.

-Yes.

0:31:560:31:59

-But with movement and with life.

-Yes.

0:31:590:32:04

Just next to you, we've got a piece of needlework.

0:32:040:32:08

How does that all fit into the scheme of things? I'm sure it's there for a reason.

0:32:080:32:13

Well, that is most remarkable. 16 years before my mother's death she had a massive stroke.

0:32:130:32:19

And was she badly affected?

0:32:190:32:21

-She lost her speech and the use of her right side.

-Oh, dear, dear, dear.

0:32:210:32:26

But she was such an indomitable person that she taught herself

0:32:260:32:31

-to do embroidery with just her left hand, on a frame.

-And she was not left-handed?

0:32:310:32:36

-No, no, she wasn't left handed, and she did over 200 of these small embroideries.

-Which are delicious.

0:32:360:32:43

And she did this chair seat because it was worn out.

0:32:430:32:47

And did she continue working right till the end?

0:32:470:32:49

Almost to the end, about I suppose two or three months before.

0:32:490:32:54

The patterns started getting weaker, she would just do rows of different colours.

0:32:540:32:59

-It was very sad to see it.

-But she still had the passion to create.

-Yes.

0:32:590:33:03

Now I'm pleased to say that although lots of people out there don't know the name of Margaret Calkin James,

0:33:030:33:09

a good number of connoisseurs do, and her work is certainly sought after.

0:33:090:33:15

These posters would easily fetch into four figures.

0:33:150:33:21

-Really?

-Definitely, without any question at all.

0:33:210:33:24

So the market is there for her designs and what she produced.

0:33:240:33:31

What I hope is that in the next few years,

0:33:310:33:34

people will begin to see her in the round

0:33:340:33:37

and realise that she is much more than the designer of Kenwood

0:33:370:33:42

or Trooping the Colour or Kew Gardens.

0:33:420:33:44

I think that in the next ten years,

0:33:440:33:46

Margaret Calkin James will be a name that everybody knows.

0:33:460:33:50

Well, that's very encouraging of you to say so.

0:33:500:33:54

It's lovely to see blue and white together, it makes a wonderful colour.

0:33:540:33:58

-Yes.

-Especially out in the sunshine, it looks beautiful, doesn't it? All through the family?

0:33:580:34:03

Yes, indeed. Came from my great-great-grandmother.

0:34:030:34:06

And it passed down through the family

0:34:060:34:08

and came to me because I had a cabinet to put it in. I ended up with the collection.

0:34:080:34:12

Oh, do you like it as well?

0:34:120:34:14

-Yes, I think it's lovely. We're particularly interested in this piece here.

-This one here?

0:34:140:34:19

Yes. This is almost an odd one out, isn't it?

0:34:190:34:22

-Very much so.

-It's all Worcester.

0:34:220:34:24

Oh, is it?

0:34:240:34:26

Say from the start. Yes, you've got a butter pot

0:34:260:34:29

and cover but without its stand. It should have a stand, you haven't got the round stand to it?

0:34:290:34:34

I think we have. I thought it was a separate plate.

0:34:340:34:36

Good. No, it's the stand for the pot.

0:34:360:34:38

Oh, right, well, we've got that too.

0:34:380:34:40

-This is a mug for drinking cider.

-Oh, right.

-Do you drink cider?

-Oh, yes.

-Yes.

0:34:400:34:44

Well, it's jolly good stuff.

0:34:440:34:46

And a nice teapot. Worcester teapots I think are the most perfect shape.

0:34:460:34:50

-Yes.

-And this is wonderful, isn't it?

-Isn't that pretty?

0:34:500:34:54

This is a beautiful basket with the pine cone pattern.

0:34:540:34:57

This is transfer printed and beautiful. That's a lovely piece.

0:34:570:35:01

And this one is a spoon tray

0:35:010:35:04

for putting the spoon on, part of a tea set.

0:35:040:35:07

-You carry the spoon around and give it to somebody to stir their tea with.

-Oh, I see.

0:35:070:35:12

And one of the later pieces of this -

0:35:120:35:14

these are all in the 1770s-1780s -

0:35:140:35:19

this one is almost in the 1790s, has a little pattern mark,

0:35:190:35:22

a factory mark of a disguised numeral and for a spoon tray it's unusual.

0:35:220:35:27

And this is the quite unusual pot, yes.

0:35:270:35:30

We don't know what that is.

0:35:300:35:32

I wondered whether they put crystals in, a towel over their head and sniffed it.

0:35:320:35:36

-Yes, we used...

-Friar's Balsam or something.

-Friar's Balsam...

0:35:360:35:40

BOTH: ..to clear the head.

0:35:400:35:42

-No, no, no.

-Wrong guess.

0:35:420:35:44

Wrong guess, what else did you think it was?

0:35:440:35:47

-Shaving mug.

-A shaving mug!

0:35:470:35:49

It's actually an inkwell.

0:35:510:35:52

-Oh, right.

-A desk inkwell, yes, you have a little glass pot in there

0:35:520:35:57

which you keep the ink in, as ink is very corrosive.

0:35:570:36:00

And in here are wafers for sealing your letter

0:36:000:36:03

and sand to dry them up, and the pens go in there.

0:36:030:36:08

-I see.

-So there you are.

0:36:080:36:09

The unusual thing about it, it is Worcester, it's got a little tiny crescent,

0:36:090:36:14

in date about 1785-1790.

0:36:140:36:17

But it's an unfinished pattern.

0:36:170:36:21

It shouldn't just be lines of blue.

0:36:210:36:23

I think that it should have been gilded, lines of gold to make it...and gold round the rim.

0:36:230:36:29

-It would look very smart.

-Yes.

0:36:290:36:31

You know? But for some reason or other,

0:36:310:36:34

it left the factory without being gilded.

0:36:340:36:38

Perhaps it was a little damaged, got little blemishes on it.

0:36:380:36:41

-Yes.

-And they said, "Oh, to hell with this, we won't finish it off."

-Oh, I see.

-"We'll just sell it."

0:36:410:36:46

I suppose cheap as a second or something,

0:36:460:36:49

-and somebody used it as an inkpot.

-Yes.

-You've got some unusual pieces.

0:36:490:36:52

Some ordinary pieces, but beautiful. None of these are phenomenally valuable.

0:36:520:36:57

-I mean, the basket is probably going to be what, sort of £400, something like that.

-Gosh.

0:36:570:37:02

-The mug, a very, very pretty mug, 300 to 400.

-Heavens!

0:37:020:37:07

Teapot the same. The butter dish...

0:37:070:37:09

If you can find the little stand for it to sit on, it's going to be about 600 with the whole thing.

0:37:090:37:15

-Good heavens!

-Spoon tray 200 or 300.

-We'd better get them insured.

0:37:150:37:19

And the ink pot is very unusual.

0:37:190:37:22

I don't know what that's worth because it's unfinished.

0:37:220:37:25

I would have a guesstimate of about, say...I don't know, 400.

0:37:250:37:29

-Wow.

-You've got a few thousand.

0:37:290:37:31

I was going to bring them on my bicycle in my rucksack but I couldn't. Glad I came in the car.

0:37:310:37:36

It's really hot, but what a view.

0:37:380:37:41

That's going to cool you down, isn't it?

0:37:410:37:44

-I love it.

-Do you?

-I do.

-What do you love most about this completely wonderful painting?

0:37:440:37:49

The way you can see through to the valley beyond.

0:37:520:37:55

This hoosh, that rainbow, that boat and its tiny tender and the waterfall and...

0:37:550:38:02

-where do you want me to stop?

-Well, because it just goes on for ever, doesn't it?

0:38:020:38:07

The detail of it is extraordinary.

0:38:070:38:09

You can completely lose yourself in this.

0:38:090:38:12

Everywhere you look there's another extraordinary, almost cataclysmic vision of weather.

0:38:120:38:18

You've got the clouds parting here to allow

0:38:180:38:20

a wisp of cloud over that distant and almost horrific jagged edge of cliff.

0:38:200:38:27

You've got this amazing mist driving up this

0:38:270:38:29

valley here and out of it coming this splintering, scintillating waterfall

0:38:290:38:34

down to this unbelievable cool, placid, calm loch

0:38:340:38:39

with a great big ship in it so far down.

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And then, over here, I love this vertiginous bit here, this rock just... Isn't it extraordinary?

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You want to push it over the edge and yet you know it's massive

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and vast along with the rest of this huge landscape.

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And then this wonderful rainbow in that mist, and just look at it.

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And it goes on for ever.

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I mean...it's magical.

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You can dream of trolls living in here. You can think what you like about it.

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-But, overall, it's a symphony of different weather conditions, isn't it?

-Absolutely.

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Quite, quite lovely.

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So, it's by Alfred William Hunt and we can see bottom right there.

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And it's signed and dated 1869,

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which has got to be the heyday of this artist's career.

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Now, he was a very interesting chap, born in Liverpool.

0:39:280:39:31

-He's a Liverpool artist.

-Right.

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But he went to Oxford

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and was a very well-educated man and really he was a scholar and a poet.

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I think that tells you a lot about the way he's seeing this landscape, because he's seeing it poetically.

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I mean, this is a series of beautiful stanzas of poetry

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about the weather and the landscape and the magnificent mountains.

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I can't tell you how modern this picture would have been for 1869.

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If you'd gone into the exhibition where this was shown and seen it,

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you'd go, "Wow! That's new, I've never seen anything like that before".

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It's because he's looking forward - he's a Modernist really.

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He's looking forward, finding a new way of expressing his emotion

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and his, er, reaction to the landscape.

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Anyway, a wonderful painting, completely wonderful painting and what's more, you know,

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not known to academia.

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-This is a lost masterpiece. There's been an exhibition just literally.

-Don't tell him.

-What?

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-Don't tell him.

-Don't tell anyone.

-Don't tell anyone. OK, it'll be our secret.

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But it's been lost for hundreds of years.

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You knew where it was... and one or two others.

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There's been an exhibition in the Ashmolean Museum just earlier this year

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of this artist's work and they didn't know anything about it. Nothing.

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They knew it existed but they didn't know it still existed, or where it was.

0:40:470:40:52

How did it get into your family?

0:40:520:40:54

Grandfather used to drive ships around the place and when he came back from America he was very rich.

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A-ha! There's money in ships, money in ships, can be.

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He bought lots of pictures and things he liked and when he died,

0:41:040:41:08

it sort of came down the family to us.

0:41:080:41:11

-And it's been on your walls ever since.

-Yes.

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How wonderful. Ever had it valued?

0:41:130:41:16

-No.

-Not at all.

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-Probate value.

-And what was that?

0:41:180:41:20

-About 5,000.

-5,000-ish? Yeah, yeah.

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Well, I can imagine how that would be.

0:41:220:41:25

Now, I think probably a picture this good,

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this rare, of this date, by this artist...

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at least £40,000.

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Good grief.

0:41:340:41:35

Is there a doctor in the house?

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And the rest. I mean, that is conservative. That is conservative.

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It is that good.

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I think if two people got carried away, I can see it doing 60,000...easily.

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It's really, really beautiful.

0:41:590:42:01

I might be able to buy that cottage then.

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That would be nice.

0:42:040:42:05

Well, people come to the Roadshow in twos and threes, families etc, but look at this crowd of people.

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-Where have you all come from?

-Bromsgrove, Redditch.

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-Is that far away?

-Not very far, no.

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-Eight to 12 miles.

-How many of you are there?

0:42:180:42:20

-39, 40.

-39, 40.

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-It's grown since you've got here. Have you had a good day at the

-Roadshow? ALL: Lovely, thanks.

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-And has anyone had any really good news?

-ALL: Yes, yes, Sheila.

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-You have.

-I did indeed, yes.

-Really, what happened?

0:42:310:42:34

It was a...a box I had that Arthur Sandon valued for me over £2,000.

0:42:340:42:40

Henry Sandon, was this?

0:42:400:42:42

-Sandon senior.

-Yes.

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-He knows what he's talking about. So, a successful day for you?

-It was indeed, yes.

-And everyone else?

0:42:440:42:49

-Yes, lovely.

-But you're desperate to get home. So thanks for coming. And you're welcome any other time.

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All aboard.

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You don't have to tip, but anything's welcome. Thank you.

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Well, everyone else has gone home, so I might as well.

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See you soon, bye.

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