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As you'll have learned over the years,

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the Roadshow team in its search for antiques and the stories behind them

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would go to the ends of the Earth.

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This week, in fact, we have.

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Any further, and we'd be on our way home.

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Welcome to a very special edition of the Antiques Roadshow Down Under.

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The first view of Sydney, one of the world's most famous skylines,

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lifts the heart of every traveller.

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It's a far cry from the day in 1788 when soldiers escorted ashore

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a bunch of bewildered Brits, no longer welcome in their own country.

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They arrived in Sydney with just enough luggage for a one-way trip.

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Sydney today sums up Australia.

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Vibrant, youthful and energetic.

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Which doesn't quite explain the huge popularity here of the Antiques Roadshow!

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But this is a young country.

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Shall we see many antiques?

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The short answer to that is - you bet.

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When the first Europeans stumbled inland,

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they found plants and creatures

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the like of which they'd never seen before.

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Their fascination with the exotic flora and fauna of the New World

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found its way into early 19th-century art.

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The work of those gifted migrants is now highly sought after Australiana.

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And there's plenty of the old Georgian-Victorian stuff too.

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The well-to-do people who were sent out to govern the new colony

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had unlimited luggage allowances.

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Sydney homes like Elizabeth Bay House were as fine as any in Europe.

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Sydney is the gateway to the Pacific,

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which makes it the natural habitat of collectors keen on artefacts

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from Asia, Melanesia, and of course Australian Aboriginal.

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The dusty open landscape, the endless variety of tribal designs

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and unique wildlife are part of this country's extraordinary heritage.

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On our visit we're hoping to get a flavour of it all.

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Sydney University has been catering for students

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from all over the world since 1850.

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Today, fans of the Roadshow have flocked here to meet a bunch of British experts

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and a team of Australia's top antiquarians.

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When they knew we were coming, over 20,000 people applied for tickets.

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We have a lot to live up to.

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And all valuations will be in both the British Pound and the Australian Dollar.

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Highland cattle in a Scottish Glen.

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Many Australians - reminded them of home. Is this a piece that's family in that respect?

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No, it's not, no, I found it actually in an opportunity shop.

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-An opportunity shop. What's that?

-Like a Salvation Army shop.

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-How long ago was that?

-About 12 months, yes.

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And dare I say, how much you gave for it?

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30.

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For a vase like this? 30?

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Right. And did you know what you were buying?

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No, no, I didn't know. And the reason I bought it

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was because I saw this as gold and I thought that's got to be gold, that's it, that's all I knew.

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Wonderful. Right, looking at the piece itself - exciting to me -

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because it's made at Worcester where I come from,

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painted by... the signature of the artist there,

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H Stinton, that's Harry Stinton.

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A great generation of painters at the Worcester factory.

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He specialised in Highland scenes,

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Highland cattle there in the misty atmospheric scenes.

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We did Antiques Roadshow up in Scotland and I saw his work there,

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and it seemed at home, but somehow it really appealed to collectors in Australia.

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A lot of these were bought by families

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-who would have moved from Scotland.

-OK.

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They probably bought this when it was new and it went out of favour.

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The year it was made is from this code here,

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-that's the year code for 1958.

-OK.

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Harry was a grand old man by that date.

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He was in his 90s then, but still painting, still doing the scenes.

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His eyesight was going so his later work is a bit Impressionist.

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He couldn't see so well. But that's some of his nicest work.

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So bought in the 1950s, went out of fashion and given to a charity shop,

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where you bought a wonderful vase. And it looks in lovely condition.

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Sometimes they came as pairs, often there were two of them.

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-They didn't have the other one in the shop?

-Yes, the other one is at home.

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But it's not as good a condition as what that is.

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It's chipped here, chipped on this part here.

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-So a pair of them, at 30?

-Yes.

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Shouldn't be allowed! Oh, dear, oh, dear!

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I mean, these are seriously expensive now.

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They were costly when they were painted. They were expensive,

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they were sold in jewellers' shops and collectors' shops,

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because people loved the quality of Royal Worcester.

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-Today, collectors go mad for these.

-Do they?

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And so, I mean, a pair with one chip are going to be 7,000, 8,000.

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Oh! Sorry...

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Yes, I mean, £3,000 for a pair of vases by Harry Stinton

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and you got them for 30?

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Yes.

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-Isn't that nice?

-Yes!

-Just because you liked the gold.

-Yes.

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Oh, my God!

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Look at this broad and open panorama of Sydney in about 1820.

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It's amazing, and we can see that it's got a nice signature down there.

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Major Taylor of the 48th Regiment.

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I think it's amazing, can you take me through it?

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-Lead me through it, so if we start over here.

-OK.

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Clearing some ground by the looks of it.

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It looks like they're making something.

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They've got blocks and they're probably building a house.

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-They're going down into foundations, so...

-And gardening here, subsistence farming.

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-They had to feed themselves.

-Vegetables, yes.

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Because the boats would only come at very irregular intervals,

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and it's very hard to grow stuff here. This soil is very sandy

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-and it's not really good for growing crops.

-Yes.

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So here's Sydney Cove which is where the first fleet landed.

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And they literally, the town grew up running along the stream,

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so the people could be close to it for sanitation or whatever.

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-Everything you needed.

-But they also threw everything in there,

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so before long it was completely contaminated.

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Unlike Sydney Harbour now, one of the cleanest harbours I've seen.

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A lot of work's gone into that.

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-One of the good things the government's done.

-And what's that?

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I would say that's a kangaroo but it looks more like a mongoose.

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For a long time the animals weren't drawn properly because they weren't quick enough.

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-Like Muybridge and horses.

-That's right, with the legs at the same time, yes.

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There are lots of windmills across this vista.

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-Presumably that was for wheat?

-Yes, to make bread.

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I love this fellow doing his washing.

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We've got chickens, so it wasn't so bad, life wasn't...

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No, this would be a very jazzed-up version of what it was like,

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because this picture was sent back to England to say,

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"Aren't we doing well? Don't give up. Send money."

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-Send money!

-They wanted the government to support the colony.

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The currency at that time was rum!

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But you can see they've built the jail up here.

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-Yeah, very important building.

-Very important. It looks terribly small.

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-Half the population in there at one point.

-At some stage, yes.

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I'll get into trouble for saying that!

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-Oh, no, we're pretty proud of our heritage now.

-Good.

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And the Mint and the hospital. They're all heritage listed and still standing.

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Yes, and then you've got some genuine Aborigines here.

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Who wouldn't have been clothed.

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But they've been dressed up for the British, to make it look like...

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-It's incredible.

-Well, you know, all these people looking so healthy

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and there's so much vegetation, it's really not true.

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You can tell the entire history of the city from this one print.

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Well, in terms of value,

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in better condition one might hope to see it at 2,000 or 3,000,

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in an auction perhaps, so it could still do that.

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But it might have to be rather a good day.

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That's about £1,000, £1,500, that sort of thing.

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Oh, that's good, that's excellent. My parents will be thrilled.

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Do you know, I come all the way to Australia

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and I find myself confronted with something

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that started off life in America, in New York, to be precise.

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Because there are no prizes for anybody watching

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for saying, "Oh, look, there's a Tiffany lamp."

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But having said that, to be perfectly frank,

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for every shade and base of this type that I come across,

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90% were never made by Tiffany.

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In fact, an awful lot of these have been made in the last 30 years

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to sort of satiate the demand.

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You were nobody unless you had a Tiffany lamp on your sideboard.

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So... But this has got a bit of a history to it.

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Yes, in the 1950s, my mother and her sister

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were fossicking around in a very dark and dingy junk shop...

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-They were doing what?

-Fossicking.

-Fossicking?

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-Yes, looking.

-We'll get subtitles for that for the British viewer, OK?

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Fossicking is when you're scratching around looking for treasure

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like gold nuggets and opals in the mines of Australia.

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-Rummaging's another word.

-That'll do.

-I'm with you.

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In a junk shop, a "junk shop" in Derbyshire

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and they found a nice-shaped lamp which was unrecognisable.

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It was dirty, it was dark, but they decided that with a bit of a polish up, it might be a nice lamp.

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They took it home and my mother discovered the Tiffany things.

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-They paid fifty shillings for it. Yes, that was...you know.

-Yeah.

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It's subsequently come down to me and they lugged it out to Australia

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to bring it to me, what, nearly 50 years ago.

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Date-wise, this would probably be initially round about 1895, 1900.

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And at that stage Tiffany was your great interior decorator.

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-Yes.

-And, um, he was making stained-glass windows,

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because stained-glass windows were very much in vogue at that time.

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They found initially that they got lots of spare bits over,

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that they didn't need in the windows and somebody just hit upon the idea of making these into a shade.

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-Really?

-So it came out of, almost like a waste disposal unit.

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How fascinating.

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Anyway, he designed over 500 shades, he designed over 500 bases.

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I think this one works quite well.

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It seems to be in proportion.

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It does. Now, I'm going to take it apart.

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So, I'm very carefully going to take that and just lift it straight off,

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-OK, because I want to look at the base.

-Yes.

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And if you can be so kind, we'll just take that off.

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Now this one, if I can just take the cistern out.

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-The first thing you always want to look at is, is it marked?

-Yes.

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-There are two places to look. The base.

-Yes.

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Which is rather nice because you've got the mark there

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-of the Tiffany Glass & Decorating Company.

-Yes.

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-Tiffany Studios New York, and then there's the number.

-Yes.

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-And that is the shape of that particular base.

-Oh, I see, yes.

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OK, um, now we look at the shade.

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The first thing you're looking for is a mark,

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-and you look on the inside of the rim.

-Yes.

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-And it's usually quite tiny.

-It is.

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I actually knew a lady in New York who was a dealer.

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-She remembers when these went out of fashion in the 1930s.

-Yes.

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And she remembers the workmen taking them out into the street,

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smashing the glass out of them so they could get the scrap metal.

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-Gosh, yes.

-There's a thought. It's a bit of eye opener. If I can find that mark...

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-It's very hard.

-It is very hard, isn't it.

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-And I've not got me specs on, but it's there.

-Yes.

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So Tiffany & Co, no doubt about it.

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If you wanted to replace this today,

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-you'd have to pay more than fifty shillings.

-I'm sure.

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Fifty shillings is two pounds, ten shillings, or two pounds fifty.

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-Or five dollars.

-Which might be 5, 8.

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Because if I wanted to buy this today,

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I'd probably have to write a cheque out for a minimum of...

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Let's say, 25,000.

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Really, really? Gosh, that's a surprise, a nice surprise.

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But nothing to you people in Sydney.

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A woman like you, it's pocket money, I know the type!

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For the benefit of the British viewer, that's a £10,000 shade.

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-Really?

-But thank you for bringing it.

-Thank you for doing it.

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That was wonderful. We feel we know you because we watch the show.

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-You do?

-Yes, we do, and we feel we know people and...

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That's fortuitous because I've got nowhere to eat and sleep tonight.

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If I could come back to yours that would be wonderful! Look at that.

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-Can you see that?

-Yes, oh, it's beautiful, yeah, lovely.

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I meant to do that earlier. They've stopped recording now.

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This is part of the keel of Captain Cook's ship Endeavour,

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in which he circumnavigated the world and discovered Australia.

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OK, I believe you, but...

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We've got to convince the world. What is special about this piece of wood?

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I have with me a letter that was written by George Howard

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to Captain Bennett who was...

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-In 1828.

-In 1828, asking him to take this piece of the keel of the Endeavour

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to Liverpool or London and present it to an appropriate institution.

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The Endeavour was finally scrapped in 1793. Was it that famous?

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Well, it was said that in Newport, Rhode Island,

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when it fell into disrepair and was condemned,

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it fell prey to souvenir hunters at that time, in about 1793.

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-It was already a very famous vessel?

-It was a very famous vessel and still is.

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So while it was being broken up, people were cutting out chunks

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and saying, "I've got a bit of the Endeavour."

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And do you think this is the biggest piece that survives?

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There is a... I think the only other large piece

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is in the Newport Historical Society in Newport, Rhode Island.

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But there's a gap, isn't there? What happened between 1793 and 1828

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to guarantee this is the right piece of wood?

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Well, I think it would be bizarre for someone to say in 1828,

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that's, what, it's 35 years later,

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that this wood came from the Endeavour if it didn't.

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It's fairly nondescript, although it's got beautiful marks on it.

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What happens between 1828 and now, that you've got it?

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Er, my late father purchased it from a gentleman

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called Sam Lowe who had it in Boston in his family for over 100 years.

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So in theory we've got a provenance stretching back to 1828,

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which you know about,

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we've then got a slight gap, and then we've got the actual ship.

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Now I think I am right in saying that when this ship was broken up,

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as was common practice, bits of the Endeavour also floated off in different forms, didn't they?

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Yes, I think that recycling was fairly popular in those days.

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Yeah, so could that explain the gap?

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That, you know, bits of it were built into another ship from 1793,

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by 1828 that would have been wrecked and lost,

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-and therefore it could have come, that could have filled the gap.

-Yes.

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If they knew that within a later ship, bits of the Endeavour were there.

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Certainly, the keel could have been used and laid for a new ship.

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-But they said, "Remember, that's the Endeavour."

-That could be an explanation.

-That could happen.

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-So you're pretty certain.

-Yes, I'm certain.

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Now have you had this wood tested?

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-The wood has been tested here at Sydney University by radio carbon dating.

-Yes.

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And they put an age on it of about 1400, plus or minus a percentage.

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-What's that telling us?

-Well, that tells us that the wood is probably 500 years old now.

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That would make sense because the oak would have been 100, 200 years old

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when it was felled for ship building, so that works.

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-It certainly fits in, yes.

-Yeah. So, OK, science supports it,

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the provenance supports it as far as it goes, with one or two little gaps.

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So this is the making of Australia.

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It is, this was here for the beginning.

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I think that's extraordinary.

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Would it be fair to say that should this ever come up for sale,

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we might be looking at a sum like 250,000, £100,000?

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-Yes, certainly.

-And possibly more?

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-Or more.

-I mean in a sense, the target is the moon, isn't it?

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-Because you're fulfilling a dream.

-It certainly is.

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-It's unique.

-Well, it's fulfilled our dream, thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Where do you keep this extraordinary collection

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of Australian native birds in your house?

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I presume you keep it in your house?

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I must confess I don't.

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It actually belongs to my aunt, who's 89.

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She's nearly 90.

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To my knowledge, this is the first time in at least 100 years that it's left the house.

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Right. In the late 19th century if you had a large sprawling mansion,

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you often had lots of cased animals.

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These are some of our most famous native birds.

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Of course, the kookaburra is a national Australian emblem,

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it's been on stamps and coins, coats of arms for parliaments and all sorts of other things.

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Some of these others lorikeets and rosellas are found in the Blue Mountains

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to the west of Sydney. This is a bit of a challenge to value

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because I've not seen something as good as this for a long time.

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I would imagine something like this would probably fetch

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in the vicinity of 3,000 to 4,000 at auction.

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-Truly?

-Yes, it would be very, very sought after.

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I would imagine, you know, for insurance 4,000.

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Probably something like £1,000 to £1,200 in the UK if they came up there.

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These are fantastic.

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OK, thank you.

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Well, this has the appearance of being almost a sort of collection of jewellery from the 1920s or '30s.

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Have you got any information or history on them?

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No, other than the fact that I know they belonged to my grandparents,

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and that's about all I know, I have no idea about them.

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I perhaps might be a bit immodest to say you've met a man who knows.

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-I'm so glad.

-Because there's a little story about these.

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They're by a maker called Leon Hatot

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and he was virtually unknown. He's a French jeweller.

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Some many years ago I was called to Paris, working for an auction house,

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to look at some remaining watches and clocks.

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In 1939, when the Germans invaded Europe,

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all these watches and jewels were wrapped in tissue paper,

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with their original tags, envelopes, everything,

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put in a safe, and they weren't taken out

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until somebody died and this man decided to sell them in the 1980s.

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And they had all the original bills, and the details of manufacturing, how many diamonds, how much enamel

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and I was the lucky chap who got to see them

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and Leon Hatot was sort of discovered that day, by accident, by me.

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Because although his mark, which we will find, I am sure, on them,

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was known, nobody knew the history of the firm.

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And this gentleman knew, so we rediscovered the maker.

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This dress watch, again very classic 1920s, diamonds on the edge,

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black enamel simulated onyx which was a popular material in the '20s,

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would be worth something of the order of perhaps

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5,000 Australian, £2,000-odd sterling.

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This is a very classic design of his, again platinum, diamonds,

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black enamel simulating onyx and a covered dial,

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which was a very popular idea, very '20s. You can imagine,

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a typical classic style.

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And that also is something of the order of £4,000 or 5,000 Australian and £2,000.

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But this one is really magnificent, wonderful set of diamonds set into it

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and really good stones too. Often the stones are rather second-rate,

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but these are excellent, again with the sapphires

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Quite a difficult thing to value really, but...

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Let me think, anything up to about 20,000,

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something of the order of £8,000.

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Magnificent.

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-Thank you very much, made my day.

-Thank you.

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Bernice, I've heard that you are almost solely the reason that we're here in Australia.

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I wish I could take responsibility for that, but I couldn't.

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I think, basically, I just had this bright idea one day,

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and I've always been a fan of the Antiques Roadshow.

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Being an expatriate, having seen the shows 18 years ago in England,

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I didn't understand why they hadn't been here. There are so many expats,

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also there's people from all over the world that have emigrated to Australia

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and brought along all their treasures.

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And I felt that it was necessary to get the crowd here

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and give us a show, and I'm just so delighted

0:22:230:22:26

the amount of people that have shown up.

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Well, thousands wanted to come, and thank you very much for starting it all off.

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-For being on our side.

-Thank you for taking that long trip.

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-And are you free for dinner?

-Oh, absolutely, thank you.

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Here you've got a work by Thancoupie who is Australia's

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foremost Aboriginal ceramicist and if we look at the bottom here,

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we can see we've got Thancoupie's signature on the bottom.

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It's a beautiful piece. If you look at the earthenware it's got a lovely texture to it, hasn't it?

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And if you think about Aboriginal people and how important the land is to them, their culture,

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their relationship with their country, it's an interesting piece,

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it's quite evocative of Aboriginal culture.

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She was born in the 1930s, born Gloria James,

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and was the first indigenous person to actually get tertiary qualifications in ceramics.

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So she's quite a ground-breaker because she was marrying, or linking,

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traditional Aboriginal stories with ceramics, which is a relatively

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new medium for Aboriginal artists.

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These are unsigned.

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So they're a little harder to sell because they don't have a signature.

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They may well be by Thancoupie, they certainly look like they are.

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So one would think that in the contemporary market,

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these smaller pieces would be worth in the vicinity of about 500 each.

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This larger piece, which has the wonderful signature on the bottom,

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would be worth in the vicinity of about 2,500 to 3,000.

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So you're looking at about £1,000 for this piece here.

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Wow.

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So if you put flowers in them, be very careful.

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-No!

-And don't put them near an open window.

0:24:350:24:37

-No, at that price! Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:24:370:24:41

It's been in my possession for 36 years but it was given to my mother,

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on the occasion of her 21st birthday

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on 21st September 1910,

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by a gentleman, the name of Christianson, Mr Bill Christianson.

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He mined that in Lightning Reach.

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If there is one gem that we, back in the UK, associate with Australia,

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it's the opal. It's as much an association that we have with all the indigenous things here.

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-Yes.

-Kangaroos and kookaburras, opals. So I was hoping that someone

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-was going to bring in a lovely opal.

-Good.

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Here we have a drop-shape opal in the frame.

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You've dated it for me, 1910.

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There we have a very simple, you know, very basic gold frame,

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which is decorated with beaded motifs around the outside.

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You turn it over. First key point,

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the opal should be the same colour that you can see at the back,

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because you've got these things called triplets,

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you've got these composition opals which are a slice of real material

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which has got often a backing, or it may even have a cover on it,

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and that creates a composition of gem which is not a solid true stone.

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This, of course, is the proper solid opal.

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Although we don't know what it weighs because it's mounted up,

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in my opinion it probably weighs seven or possibly eight carats.

0:26:100:26:15

Now gemologically, what are they, opals?

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Well, they are a type of jelly.

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And sometimes as much as 10% or 15% of these are water,

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and that gives rise to a problem.

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Opals dry out, and opals have a tendency to crack.

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So that is one issue to bear in mind.

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Opals therefore have this play of colour

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which reflects from what you might call little tiny cells

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within the stone itself, and it's the reflection of those cells

0:26:450:26:49

that give it this wonderful rainbow effect.

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I think we can see there, if I turn it, certainly in this light.

0:26:510:26:55

-Yes.

-I've got a really good play of pink fire with red flash in the stone.

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The issue then moves on to what might an opal like this be worth.

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The market here is far more knowledgeable, I think,

0:27:090:27:14

than the market we have in Europe.

0:27:140:27:17

I would probably expect it to be worth

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something in the region of £15,000 for insurance purposes.

0:27:190:27:26

That's around about Australian 35,000,

0:27:260:27:30

-something like that. That's for insurance purposes.

-Yes.

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I have no doubt that in the market here,

0:27:330:27:36

there will be people that will pay more for it.

0:27:360:27:40

Here we have something though that I was hoping beyond hope I would see.

0:27:400:27:44

-You have not disappointed me.

-Thank you. It is beautiful.

0:27:440:27:47

That's a very interesting way of bringing things in, in a pram.

0:27:490:27:52

-Can you tell me about what you've got?

-This is my father's collection.

0:27:520:27:56

-He was the therapist for the Australian cricket team for many many years.

-Yes.

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And he was in the beginning of World Series cricket.

0:28:010:28:03

-Really?

-He realised that there would be valuable things

0:28:030:28:06

to hand down to his grandchildren and great grandchildren.

0:28:060:28:11

-Would you mind if I have a quick rummage around?

-No, I'd love you to.

0:28:110:28:15

-Good.

-Everything's signed.

0:28:150:28:18

Right, OK. This looks like World Series cricket.

0:28:180:28:21

-Definitely, there's three teams, this is the Australian team.

-OK.

0:28:210:28:26

And in here's the West Indies.

0:28:260:28:28

-Right.

-And possibly international team, or English team.

0:28:280:28:32

That is the English team, I notice a few that I recognise here.

0:28:320:28:35

There's Graham Dilley and Bob Taylor, who was the wicket keeper.

0:28:350:28:39

This is a nice piece, the signatures are in fairly nice condition.

0:28:390:28:44

At auction that would probably fetch in the region of 200 to 400.

0:28:440:28:48

-Wow.

-You're looking at around £100 to £200.

0:28:480:28:51

-Well, OK.

-Now.

0:28:510:28:53

OK, now this...

0:28:550:28:57

this is something rather special.

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-Can you tell me anything?

-It was Ian Chappell's.

0:29:020:29:06

-Right.

-Possibly my dad fixed something for him,

0:29:060:29:11

and he went on to do quite well in the game somewhere.

0:29:110:29:14

Because my dad's 90 with Alzheimer's, he doesn't remember.

0:29:140:29:18

Right, this is a very significant piece of sporting memorabilia.

0:29:180:29:24

It's actually initialled here, you can see it's initialled IC.

0:29:240:29:27

-Ian Chappell, Ian Chappell was the captain of Australia.

-He would have been.

0:29:270:29:32

Yes, he was unbeaten, he never lost a series as test captain,

0:29:320:29:36

he played in over 70 tests. And...

0:29:360:29:39

The baggy green is considered really to be the most collectable type of cricket memorabilia,

0:29:390:29:45

and cricket is really the most collectable Australian sport,

0:29:450:29:50

this is fantastic.

0:29:500:29:52

If it were to appear at auction in Australia,

0:29:520:29:55

this would conservatively make between 6,000 and 8,000.

0:29:550:29:59

-My goodness!

-Which translates in English pounds

0:29:590:30:03

to around £2,500 to £4,500, so it's quite a find.

0:30:030:30:10

-Wow.

-Mmm.

0:30:100:30:13

Here we are in Sydney, Australia. And here is a collection,

0:30:140:30:18

a fabulous collection of Maria Callas - photographs and letters.

0:30:180:30:25

Why Maria Callas, why not Sutherland?

0:30:250:30:28

Why not Nellie Melba?

0:30:280:30:31

Well, my mum gave me a recording of "The Barber of Seville"

0:30:310:30:34

back when I was 10 or 11, and the voice just amazed me.

0:30:340:30:37

I think I've always started collecting her ever since,

0:30:370:30:40

I've friends who worked with her.

0:30:400:30:42

But this is a very sophisticated collection. This is quite incredible,

0:30:420:30:46

I've never seen anything like it. You've got piles of them.

0:30:460:30:49

You've got these ones by Angus McBean, of course.

0:30:490:30:53

-But there's piles of them.

-Yeah.

0:30:530:30:55

All signed. But which is your favourite thing here?

0:30:550:30:58

Well, I think my favourite is the London "Traviata"

0:30:580:31:03

-for which this...

-This one here?

0:31:030:31:05

I've also brought in "Tosca", from London and "Norma" from London,

0:31:050:31:09

all great British photographers.

0:31:090:31:11

She owned these photographs, gave them to fans.

0:31:110:31:14

As much as I love the signed photos and how personal they are,

0:31:140:31:18

I go to the letters, which I feel actually

0:31:180:31:22

illuminate her rather more. There's one here to "Dearest Henry".

0:31:220:31:27

Henry is an unknown friend of Maria's and this was written in 1949

0:31:270:31:31

before she got married, where she's telling him how much she's in love

0:31:310:31:35

and that she desperately needs her birth certificate,

0:31:350:31:38

to get married in Italy. It confirms her full name, her parents' names

0:31:380:31:42

her real date of birth and, you know, how happy she is, etc, etc.

0:31:420:31:46

But you see, that to me, is more exciting really than...

0:31:460:31:50

-It's unpublished too, so, never been seen.

-That's even better.

0:31:500:31:54

And this one just goes on for pages.

0:31:540:31:56

-I know.

-"Dearest Leo,

0:31:560:31:58

"I have received your very dear letter." What's that about?

0:31:580:32:02

Leo was her godfather whom she confided in him in the '60s,

0:32:020:32:07

through the '70s and here in 1975 she's bemoaning the loss of her voice

0:32:070:32:12

but she may have to go and sing, that Di Stefano loved her, but they couldn't marry.

0:32:120:32:17

It goes on for pages and pages and pages.

0:32:170:32:19

If you were text-messaging this, it would go in two lines or something!

0:32:190:32:24

But this is very much more important.

0:32:240:32:28

So how many items have you got altogether?

0:32:280:32:31

I guess, maybe 70 or 80 signed photographs of varying sizes

0:32:310:32:36

and maybe 20 letters.

0:32:360:32:38

Well, I think 20 letters are very rare. Well, autographically.

0:32:380:32:43

Theoretically, she shouldn't be rare because she is an opera singer

0:32:430:32:47

and would give all these things to her friends,

0:32:470:32:49

-but people are incredibly excited by Maria Callas.

-I think...

0:32:490:32:53

She wasn't so rare, it's just that the demand exceeds the generous supply and very much so.

0:32:530:32:58

-And it's not going away.

-Certainly in the US she's very hot.

0:32:580:33:01

-Yeah, everywhere.

-In Australia she's very hot too?

-Absolutely.

0:33:010:33:05

And England too is very keen on her, as well, and all her recordings.

0:33:050:33:10

I was fortunate to see her in the Festival Hall in London in 1974,

0:33:100:33:14

-not the voice it was, but...

-But even so, it was still there.

0:33:140:33:19

I think that's wonderful. How long has this collection taken?

0:33:190:33:22

20 years, I guess.

0:33:220:33:24

How much have you paid for it all?

0:33:240:33:25

Thousands, I guess.

0:33:250:33:28

I should think you have. I would say that you have got, Australian,

0:33:280:33:32

the best part of a quarter of a million Australian dollars?

0:33:320:33:37

-Good grief.

-Which is something like £100,000 to £125,000.

0:33:370:33:40

Wow! Are you sure?

0:33:400:33:43

It's a fantastic collection and wonderful to see it, thank you for bringing it in.

0:33:430:33:48

Well, it's going back to England eventually, I've decided in my will

0:33:480:33:52

to leave it to the V&A Museum in London.

0:33:520:33:54

Is that the right place for it?

0:33:540:33:56

I think so, yes. She loved London, she loved the audiences there.

0:33:560:34:00

I thought, let's keep it in the English-speaking world and London.

0:34:000:34:04

I used to live in England, loved the V&A, so why not?

0:34:040:34:07

-They're very happy to receive it.

-That's very generous of you.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:34:070:34:12

They're not, as pieces of silver, terribly artistic. What's the history behind them?

0:34:170:34:21

I brought them in because they're trophies won by my grandfather for his excellence in poultry farming.

0:34:210:34:27

He had hens that could lay more eggs than anyone else's,

0:34:270:34:30

and these items were won by birds that he sent to India

0:34:300:34:35

and they laid more eggs than any of the hens there, so he won prizes.

0:34:350:34:39

I think it's wonderful. I also like the documentation that comes with it.

0:34:390:34:44

Here is a letter, or actually a sort of manuscript.

0:34:440:34:47

It's a testimonial dated 1925 and it says here,

0:34:470:34:52

"If you had sent four pullets to make a team,

0:34:520:34:55

"you would have won the team prize hands down,

0:34:550:34:58

"as your three laid an average of 61 eggs apiece."

0:34:580:35:02

-That's truly amazing.

-Incredible.

0:35:020:35:04

-But you don't poultry-farm any more?

-Oh, no!

0:35:040:35:08

Truly exceptional pieces, not because of the quality,

0:35:080:35:11

but the history with them. It's important that in the future all the documents you have,

0:35:110:35:17

and you have more, I know, are kept with them and the story goes on down.

0:35:170:35:20

Because these are not worth a lot of money

0:35:200:35:23

but as a bit of the history of poultry farming, they're unique,

0:35:230:35:27

so we're talking about a few hundred dollars, you know, not a great deal.

0:35:270:35:30

-But a fantastic story.

-Thank you.

0:35:300:35:33

Well, I've come halfway round the world

0:35:340:35:37

to meet the strongest monarchist in the country.

0:35:370:35:40

-Thank you.

-Is that a fair description?

0:35:400:35:43

It's certainly a passion of mine.

0:35:430:35:45

I think they're fantastic little pictures.

0:35:450:35:48

There's the representations of the different monarchs themselves,

0:35:480:35:52

and it's also a history of costumery as well.

0:35:520:35:55

You're going for every British monarch ever, is that your plan?

0:35:550:35:59

I've gone right back to Edgar and Egbert

0:35:590:36:04

who was the grandfather of Alfred the Great. I'm trying to fill in all the gaps before then,

0:36:040:36:09

but I've been able to get a representation over there of the Conscience of the King.

0:36:090:36:14

That's King Cerdic so that's around 500AD.

0:36:140:36:18

I'm still looking for King Aella of Sussex and some of the Northumberland Bretwaldas, Edwin,

0:36:180:36:23

if any of your viewers are able to steer me in the right direction.

0:36:230:36:27

I was in Sussex only last week, I could have looked round for you!

0:36:270:36:30

So what started you off in this obsession?

0:36:300:36:33

Well, I've always been interested in history and when I was young,

0:36:330:36:37

my family holidayed in England. I did my university degree in history

0:36:370:36:42

and I lived in Britain for three years, so that got me going.

0:36:420:36:48

This one behind me here is one of the more recent pieces I picked up,

0:36:480:36:52

that was in a flea market in Sydney, a battered old remnant

0:36:520:36:56

that I think to the stallholder was just some woman,

0:36:560:37:00

but I knew it was Queen Alexandra and so I got it for 5.

0:37:000:37:04

They don't all have a pictorial representation, do they?

0:37:040:37:07

Pretty much all of them do. This one was the first contemporaneous portrait,

0:37:070:37:13

Richard II, 1377 so that's 600 years before the Queen's Silver Jubilee.

0:37:130:37:18

So all the monarchs represented here before that period

0:37:180:37:22

are imagined portraits perhaps taken from death effigies on their tomb,

0:37:220:37:27

or from coins or something.

0:37:270:37:29

How do you get them?

0:37:290:37:31

Some of them, I just bought them in shops and flea markets and that,

0:37:310:37:36

but to get some of the more obscure ones, I've had to source different publications,

0:37:360:37:41

18th, 19th, 20th-century publications, and then tried to marry them

0:37:410:37:45

into appropriate sort of antique and collectable frames.

0:37:450:37:49

-Is this a very expensive hobby?

-No, not at all.

0:37:490:37:52

I can buy some of these nice little collectable frames at flea markets

0:37:520:37:56

for about 5 and if I can find an appropriate picture

0:37:560:37:59

then it's not an expensive hobby at all.

0:37:590:38:01

And are you tempted to extend your collection beyond the British monarchy?

0:38:010:38:06

Certainly not. I want to collect more of the British monarchs

0:38:060:38:09

and more of their consorts, but I wouldn't pollute my collection with non-British monarchs.

0:38:090:38:15

To show that I'm even-handed, I've got Bonnie Prince Charlie,

0:38:150:38:18

not looking terribly bonny in that picture.

0:38:180:38:21

This is a fairly modern representation, what's that one?

0:38:210:38:24

My mother went to England in the 1950s

0:38:240:38:28

and was at the Coronation Procession.

0:38:280:38:32

That's the Queen in her carriage. My mother made that piece

0:38:320:38:35

and in recent years gave it to me.

0:38:350:38:37

How lovely. And there is our own dear Queen, when Princess Elizabeth.

0:38:370:38:41

Yes, I'm particularly fond of that one because of the caption underneath that simply says

0:38:410:38:46

"Beloved throughout the British Empire".

0:38:460:38:49

-I think we should stand up at that point.

-God Save the Queen.

0:38:490:38:52

Now I think I can safely say

0:38:540:38:56

the last thing I would ever have expected to see in Sydney

0:38:560:39:00

is some pieces of china that are to do with the suffragette movement.

0:39:000:39:05

Here we have a cup, saucer and a plate,

0:39:050:39:08

clearly decorated with the badge WSPU, the Women's Social and Political Union.

0:39:080:39:14

What on earth are they doing here?

0:39:140:39:16

Well, my grandmother gave a complete set to me.

0:39:160:39:21

-Hang on, what was that word, a complete set?

-A complete set.

0:39:210:39:25

-There's more?

-There's more!

0:39:250:39:27

She had been given the set by a friend of hers, Mrs Cullen,

0:39:270:39:31

who had gone to the UK in the early 1900s

0:39:310:39:35

to assist in the women's suffrage movement.

0:39:350:39:38

And I had a paper cutting

0:39:380:39:40

where it described her being thrown out of the House of Commons in 1905.

0:39:400:39:46

-That's very early.

-Yes.

-What's this cloth?

0:39:460:39:49

Well, this came with the set.

0:39:490:39:50

-And it's in the right colours.

-Yes.

0:39:500:39:53

-Purple and green.

-Yes.

0:39:530:39:55

These are classic suffrage pieces with the badge,

0:39:550:39:59

but obviously somebody has made this at the time to go with it.

0:39:590:40:04

-Yes, it would seem so, yes.

-Now these were made in Britain in I suppose 1912-ish,

0:40:040:40:09

it's difficult to know the date with no records,

0:40:090:40:12

by a Staffordshire company called Williamson, though that's unimportant.

0:40:120:40:16

-Yes.

-The importance is entirely in the badge

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and no-one knows how large-scale the production was,

0:40:190:40:24

because clearly you had to be a dedicated suffrage person

0:40:240:40:28

-to serve your tea in things badged in that way.

-Yes.

0:40:280:40:32

Cups and saucers turn up, occasional pieces turn up,

0:40:320:40:36

but they're very rare and very desirable.

0:40:360:40:39

I think when I heard you say that phrase, a complete set,

0:40:390:40:42

I can't believe it. What does that mean?

0:40:420:40:45

A complete set is six cups, six saucers,

0:40:450:40:49

six plates, a cake plate, a teapot, a sugar bowl and a milk jug.

0:40:490:40:54

So these are yours, and they've come from the family connection.

0:40:540:40:58

Where do you fit in?

0:40:580:41:00

I fit in, in that watching the Antiques Roadshow,

0:41:000:41:04

-I saw a cup and saucer on the show.

-Like this?

0:41:040:41:07

Exactly the same as the cup and saucer, other than it had a crack,

0:41:070:41:13

and it was only the one piece. I remember the gentleman who assessed the piece

0:41:130:41:17

commenting on, wouldn't it be wonderful to see a full set,

0:41:170:41:22

they just don't exist, so, of course, I rang my friend Elizabeth.

0:41:220:41:27

And said? "Get out your set."

0:41:270:41:30

I said, "Elizabeth, get out the set."

0:41:300:41:33

Well, I think that's great because a complete set is the dream

0:41:330:41:37

and it's a wonderful thing to fulfil here.

0:41:370:41:39

Now, you know it's very rare, you know it's going to be expensive

0:41:390:41:43

but do you know how expensive?

0:41:430:41:45

I'm afraid I have no idea.

0:41:450:41:48

Well, that's not true, we had a bet.

0:41:480:41:49

All right, what was the bet?

0:41:490:41:52

-Come on, tell me the bet.

-What did we say?

0:41:520:41:54

I said, I went the highest and I thought 10,000.

0:41:540:41:58

-For the set?

-For the set.

-OK, yours?

0:41:580:42:00

-And I said two.

-2,000.

-And my husband Alex said five.

0:42:000:42:05

Right, OK, assuming it's complete and in good condition,

0:42:050:42:10

I'm going to say...

0:42:100:42:13

£3,000 to £5,000 and that means...

0:42:170:42:22

About 8,000.

0:42:220:42:24

About 8,000 to 10,000, so, you win the bet.

0:42:240:42:27

I thought I won the bet.

0:42:270:42:28

Well done, but seriously, this is a very important thing to look after,

0:42:310:42:35

it's a great piece of history, Australian history as well as British.

0:42:350:42:39

And I'm amazed to see it, and very pleased.

0:42:390:42:41

I think we should say that actually Australia, South Australia,

0:42:410:42:44

in fact, got the vote for women first

0:42:440:42:47

and that's why Mrs Cullen went to England to assist them.

0:42:470:42:51

-As did New Zealand.

-Yes, indeed.

0:42:510:42:53

-Exactly. So you showed us how to do it, as ever, thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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For now, many thanks to all our Sydneysider friends,

0:42:590:43:02

and until the next time, goodbye.

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