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As you'll have learned over the years, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
the Roadshow team in its search for antiques and the stories behind them | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
would go to the ends of the Earth. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
This week, in fact, we have. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Any further, and we'd be on our way home. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Welcome to a very special edition of the Antiques Roadshow Down Under. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
The first view of Sydney, one of the world's most famous skylines, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
lifts the heart of every traveller. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
It's a far cry from the day in 1788 when soldiers escorted ashore | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
a bunch of bewildered Brits, no longer welcome in their own country. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
They arrived in Sydney with just enough luggage for a one-way trip. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
Sydney today sums up Australia. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
Vibrant, youthful and energetic. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Which doesn't quite explain the huge popularity here of the Antiques Roadshow! | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
But this is a young country. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Shall we see many antiques? | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
The short answer to that is - you bet. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
When the first Europeans stumbled inland, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
they found plants and creatures | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
the like of which they'd never seen before. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Their fascination with the exotic flora and fauna of the New World | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
found its way into early 19th-century art. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
The work of those gifted migrants is now highly sought after Australiana. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:05 | |
And there's plenty of the old Georgian-Victorian stuff too. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
The well-to-do people who were sent out to govern the new colony | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
had unlimited luggage allowances. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Sydney homes like Elizabeth Bay House were as fine as any in Europe. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
Sydney is the gateway to the Pacific, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
which makes it the natural habitat of collectors keen on artefacts | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
from Asia, Melanesia, and of course Australian Aboriginal. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:40 | |
The dusty open landscape, the endless variety of tribal designs | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
and unique wildlife are part of this country's extraordinary heritage. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
On our visit we're hoping to get a flavour of it all. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Sydney University has been catering for students | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
from all over the world since 1850. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
Today, fans of the Roadshow have flocked here to meet a bunch of British experts | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
and a team of Australia's top antiquarians. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
When they knew we were coming, over 20,000 people applied for tickets. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
We have a lot to live up to. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
And all valuations will be in both the British Pound and the Australian Dollar. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
Highland cattle in a Scottish Glen. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Many Australians - reminded them of home. Is this a piece that's family in that respect? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
No, it's not, no, I found it actually in an opportunity shop. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-An opportunity shop. What's that? -Like a Salvation Army shop. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
-How long ago was that? -About 12 months, yes. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
And dare I say, how much you gave for it? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
30. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
For a vase like this? 30? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Right. And did you know what you were buying? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
No, no, I didn't know. And the reason I bought it | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
was because I saw this as gold and I thought that's got to be gold, that's it, that's all I knew. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
Wonderful. Right, looking at the piece itself - exciting to me - | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
because it's made at Worcester where I come from, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
painted by... the signature of the artist there, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
H Stinton, that's Harry Stinton. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
A great generation of painters at the Worcester factory. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
He specialised in Highland scenes, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Highland cattle there in the misty atmospheric scenes. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
We did Antiques Roadshow up in Scotland and I saw his work there, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
and it seemed at home, but somehow it really appealed to collectors in Australia. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
A lot of these were bought by families | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
-who would have moved from Scotland. -OK. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
They probably bought this when it was new and it went out of favour. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
The year it was made is from this code here, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-that's the year code for 1958. -OK. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Harry was a grand old man by that date. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
He was in his 90s then, but still painting, still doing the scenes. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
His eyesight was going so his later work is a bit Impressionist. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
He couldn't see so well. But that's some of his nicest work. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
So bought in the 1950s, went out of fashion and given to a charity shop, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
where you bought a wonderful vase. And it looks in lovely condition. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
Sometimes they came as pairs, often there were two of them. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-They didn't have the other one in the shop? -Yes, the other one is at home. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
But it's not as good a condition as what that is. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
It's chipped here, chipped on this part here. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
-So a pair of them, at 30? -Yes. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
Shouldn't be allowed! Oh, dear, oh, dear! | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
I mean, these are seriously expensive now. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
They were costly when they were painted. They were expensive, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
they were sold in jewellers' shops and collectors' shops, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
because people loved the quality of Royal Worcester. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-Today, collectors go mad for these. -Do they? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
And so, I mean, a pair with one chip are going to be 7,000, 8,000. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
Oh! Sorry... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
Yes, I mean, £3,000 for a pair of vases by Harry Stinton | 0:05:59 | 0:06:05 | |
and you got them for 30? | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
Yes. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-Isn't that nice? -Yes! -Just because you liked the gold. -Yes. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
Look at this broad and open panorama of Sydney in about 1820. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
It's amazing, and we can see that it's got a nice signature down there. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
Major Taylor of the 48th Regiment. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
I think it's amazing, can you take me through it? | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-Lead me through it, so if we start over here. -OK. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
Clearing some ground by the looks of it. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
It looks like they're making something. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
They've got blocks and they're probably building a house. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
-They're going down into foundations, so... -And gardening here, subsistence farming. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
-They had to feed themselves. -Vegetables, yes. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Because the boats would only come at very irregular intervals, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
and it's very hard to grow stuff here. This soil is very sandy | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
-and it's not really good for growing crops. -Yes. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
So here's Sydney Cove which is where the first fleet landed. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And they literally, the town grew up running along the stream, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
so the people could be close to it for sanitation or whatever. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
-Everything you needed. -But they also threw everything in there, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
so before long it was completely contaminated. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Unlike Sydney Harbour now, one of the cleanest harbours I've seen. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
A lot of work's gone into that. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
-One of the good things the government's done. -And what's that? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
I would say that's a kangaroo but it looks more like a mongoose. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
For a long time the animals weren't drawn properly because they weren't quick enough. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
-Like Muybridge and horses. -That's right, with the legs at the same time, yes. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
There are lots of windmills across this vista. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
-Presumably that was for wheat? -Yes, to make bread. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
I love this fellow doing his washing. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
We've got chickens, so it wasn't so bad, life wasn't... | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
No, this would be a very jazzed-up version of what it was like, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
because this picture was sent back to England to say, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
"Aren't we doing well? Don't give up. Send money." | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-Send money! -They wanted the government to support the colony. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
The currency at that time was rum! | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
But you can see they've built the jail up here. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-Yeah, very important building. -Very important. It looks terribly small. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
-Half the population in there at one point. -At some stage, yes. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
I'll get into trouble for saying that! | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
-Oh, no, we're pretty proud of our heritage now. -Good. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
And the Mint and the hospital. They're all heritage listed and still standing. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:33 | |
Yes, and then you've got some genuine Aborigines here. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Who wouldn't have been clothed. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
But they've been dressed up for the British, to make it look like... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-It's incredible. -Well, you know, all these people looking so healthy | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
and there's so much vegetation, it's really not true. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
You can tell the entire history of the city from this one print. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Well, in terms of value, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
in better condition one might hope to see it at 2,000 or 3,000, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
in an auction perhaps, so it could still do that. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
But it might have to be rather a good day. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
That's about £1,000, £1,500, that sort of thing. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Oh, that's good, that's excellent. My parents will be thrilled. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
Do you know, I come all the way to Australia | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
and I find myself confronted with something | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
that started off life in America, in New York, to be precise. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
Because there are no prizes for anybody watching | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
for saying, "Oh, look, there's a Tiffany lamp." | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
But having said that, to be perfectly frank, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
for every shade and base of this type that I come across, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
90% were never made by Tiffany. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
In fact, an awful lot of these have been made in the last 30 years | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
to sort of satiate the demand. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
You were nobody unless you had a Tiffany lamp on your sideboard. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
So... But this has got a bit of a history to it. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Yes, in the 1950s, my mother and her sister | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
were fossicking around in a very dark and dingy junk shop... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
-They were doing what? -Fossicking. -Fossicking? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-Yes, looking. -We'll get subtitles for that for the British viewer, OK? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
Fossicking is when you're scratching around looking for treasure | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
like gold nuggets and opals in the mines of Australia. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
-Rummaging's another word. -That'll do. -I'm with you. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
In a junk shop, a "junk shop" in Derbyshire | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
and they found a nice-shaped lamp which was unrecognisable. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
It was dirty, it was dark, but they decided that with a bit of a polish up, it might be a nice lamp. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:37 | |
They took it home and my mother discovered the Tiffany things. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
-They paid fifty shillings for it. Yes, that was...you know. -Yeah. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
It's subsequently come down to me and they lugged it out to Australia | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
to bring it to me, what, nearly 50 years ago. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Date-wise, this would probably be initially round about 1895, 1900. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
And at that stage Tiffany was your great interior decorator. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
-Yes. -And, um, he was making stained-glass windows, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
because stained-glass windows were very much in vogue at that time. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
They found initially that they got lots of spare bits over, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
that they didn't need in the windows and somebody just hit upon the idea of making these into a shade. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
-Really? -So it came out of, almost like a waste disposal unit. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
How fascinating. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:26 | |
Anyway, he designed over 500 shades, he designed over 500 bases. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:33 | |
I think this one works quite well. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
It seems to be in proportion. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
It does. Now, I'm going to take it apart. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
So, I'm very carefully going to take that and just lift it straight off, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:45 | |
-OK, because I want to look at the base. -Yes. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
And if you can be so kind, we'll just take that off. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
Now this one, if I can just take the cistern out. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
-The first thing you always want to look at is, is it marked? -Yes. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
-There are two places to look. The base. -Yes. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Which is rather nice because you've got the mark there | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
-of the Tiffany Glass & Decorating Company. -Yes. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
-Tiffany Studios New York, and then there's the number. -Yes. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
-And that is the shape of that particular base. -Oh, I see, yes. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
OK, um, now we look at the shade. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
The first thing you're looking for is a mark, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
-and you look on the inside of the rim. -Yes. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
-And it's usually quite tiny. -It is. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
I actually knew a lady in New York who was a dealer. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
-She remembers when these went out of fashion in the 1930s. -Yes. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
And she remembers the workmen taking them out into the street, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
smashing the glass out of them so they could get the scrap metal. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
-Gosh, yes. -There's a thought. It's a bit of eye opener. If I can find that mark... | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
-It's very hard. -It is very hard, isn't it. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
-And I've not got me specs on, but it's there. -Yes. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
So Tiffany & Co, no doubt about it. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
If you wanted to replace this today, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
-you'd have to pay more than fifty shillings. -I'm sure. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Fifty shillings is two pounds, ten shillings, or two pounds fifty. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
-Or five dollars. -Which might be 5, 8. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
Because if I wanted to buy this today, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
I'd probably have to write a cheque out for a minimum of... | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Let's say, 25,000. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Really, really? Gosh, that's a surprise, a nice surprise. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
But nothing to you people in Sydney. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
A woman like you, it's pocket money, I know the type! | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
For the benefit of the British viewer, that's a £10,000 shade. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
-Really? -But thank you for bringing it. -Thank you for doing it. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
That was wonderful. We feel we know you because we watch the show. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-You do? -Yes, we do, and we feel we know people and... | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
That's fortuitous because I've got nowhere to eat and sleep tonight. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
If I could come back to yours that would be wonderful! Look at that. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
-Can you see that? -Yes, oh, it's beautiful, yeah, lovely. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
I meant to do that earlier. They've stopped recording now. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
This is part of the keel of Captain Cook's ship Endeavour, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
in which he circumnavigated the world and discovered Australia. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
OK, I believe you, but... | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
We've got to convince the world. What is special about this piece of wood? | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
I have with me a letter that was written by George Howard | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
to Captain Bennett who was... | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
-In 1828. -In 1828, asking him to take this piece of the keel of the Endeavour | 0:14:24 | 0:14:30 | |
to Liverpool or London and present it to an appropriate institution. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
The Endeavour was finally scrapped in 1793. Was it that famous? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:42 | |
Well, it was said that in Newport, Rhode Island, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
when it fell into disrepair and was condemned, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
it fell prey to souvenir hunters at that time, in about 1793. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
-It was already a very famous vessel? -It was a very famous vessel and still is. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
So while it was being broken up, people were cutting out chunks | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
and saying, "I've got a bit of the Endeavour." | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
And do you think this is the biggest piece that survives? | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
There is a... I think the only other large piece | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
is in the Newport Historical Society in Newport, Rhode Island. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:14 | |
But there's a gap, isn't there? What happened between 1793 and 1828 | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
to guarantee this is the right piece of wood? | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Well, I think it would be bizarre for someone to say in 1828, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
that's, what, it's 35 years later, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
that this wood came from the Endeavour if it didn't. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
It's fairly nondescript, although it's got beautiful marks on it. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
What happens between 1828 and now, that you've got it? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Er, my late father purchased it from a gentleman | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
called Sam Lowe who had it in Boston in his family for over 100 years. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
So in theory we've got a provenance stretching back to 1828, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
which you know about, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
we've then got a slight gap, and then we've got the actual ship. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
Now I think I am right in saying that when this ship was broken up, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
as was common practice, bits of the Endeavour also floated off in different forms, didn't they? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
Yes, I think that recycling was fairly popular in those days. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
Yeah, so could that explain the gap? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
That, you know, bits of it were built into another ship from 1793, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
by 1828 that would have been wrecked and lost, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
-and therefore it could have come, that could have filled the gap. -Yes. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
If they knew that within a later ship, bits of the Endeavour were there. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
Certainly, the keel could have been used and laid for a new ship. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
-But they said, "Remember, that's the Endeavour." -That could be an explanation. -That could happen. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:42 | |
-So you're pretty certain. -Yes, I'm certain. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Now have you had this wood tested? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
-The wood has been tested here at Sydney University by radio carbon dating. -Yes. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
And they put an age on it of about 1400, plus or minus a percentage. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
-What's that telling us? -Well, that tells us that the wood is probably 500 years old now. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
That would make sense because the oak would have been 100, 200 years old | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
when it was felled for ship building, so that works. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
-It certainly fits in, yes. -Yeah. So, OK, science supports it, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
the provenance supports it as far as it goes, with one or two little gaps. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
So this is the making of Australia. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
It is, this was here for the beginning. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
I think that's extraordinary. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Would it be fair to say that should this ever come up for sale, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
we might be looking at a sum like 250,000, £100,000? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:39 | |
-Yes, certainly. -And possibly more? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
-Or more. -I mean in a sense, the target is the moon, isn't it? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-Because you're fulfilling a dream. -It certainly is. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-It's unique. -Well, it's fulfilled our dream, thank you. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
Where do you keep this extraordinary collection | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
of Australian native birds in your house? | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I presume you keep it in your house? | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
I must confess I don't. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
It actually belongs to my aunt, who's 89. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
She's nearly 90. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
To my knowledge, this is the first time in at least 100 years that it's left the house. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
Right. In the late 19th century if you had a large sprawling mansion, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:21 | |
you often had lots of cased animals. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
These are some of our most famous native birds. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Of course, the kookaburra is a national Australian emblem, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
it's been on stamps and coins, coats of arms for parliaments and all sorts of other things. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:36 | |
Some of these others lorikeets and rosellas are found in the Blue Mountains | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
to the west of Sydney. This is a bit of a challenge to value | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
because I've not seen something as good as this for a long time. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
I would imagine something like this would probably fetch | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
in the vicinity of 3,000 to 4,000 at auction. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
-Truly? -Yes, it would be very, very sought after. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
I would imagine, you know, for insurance 4,000. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Probably something like £1,000 to £1,200 in the UK if they came up there. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
These are fantastic. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
OK, thank you. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Well, this has the appearance of being almost a sort of collection of jewellery from the 1920s or '30s. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:17 | |
Have you got any information or history on them? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
No, other than the fact that I know they belonged to my grandparents, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
and that's about all I know, I have no idea about them. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
I perhaps might be a bit immodest to say you've met a man who knows. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-I'm so glad. -Because there's a little story about these. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
They're by a maker called Leon Hatot | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
and he was virtually unknown. He's a French jeweller. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
Some many years ago I was called to Paris, working for an auction house, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
to look at some remaining watches and clocks. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
In 1939, when the Germans invaded Europe, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
all these watches and jewels were wrapped in tissue paper, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
with their original tags, envelopes, everything, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
put in a safe, and they weren't taken out | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
until somebody died and this man decided to sell them in the 1980s. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:12 | |
And they had all the original bills, and the details of manufacturing, how many diamonds, how much enamel | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
and I was the lucky chap who got to see them | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
and Leon Hatot was sort of discovered that day, by accident, by me. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Because although his mark, which we will find, I am sure, on them, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
was known, nobody knew the history of the firm. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
And this gentleman knew, so we rediscovered the maker. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
This dress watch, again very classic 1920s, diamonds on the edge, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
black enamel simulated onyx which was a popular material in the '20s, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
would be worth something of the order of perhaps | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
5,000 Australian, £2,000-odd sterling. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
This is a very classic design of his, again platinum, diamonds, | 0:20:55 | 0:21:02 | |
black enamel simulating onyx and a covered dial, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
which was a very popular idea, very '20s. You can imagine, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
a typical classic style. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
And that also is something of the order of £4,000 or 5,000 Australian and £2,000. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:18 | |
But this one is really magnificent, wonderful set of diamonds set into it | 0:21:18 | 0:21:24 | |
and really good stones too. Often the stones are rather second-rate, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
but these are excellent, again with the sapphires | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Quite a difficult thing to value really, but... | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Let me think, anything up to about 20,000, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
something of the order of £8,000. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
Magnificent. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-Thank you very much, made my day. -Thank you. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
Bernice, I've heard that you are almost solely the reason that we're here in Australia. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
I wish I could take responsibility for that, but I couldn't. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
I think, basically, I just had this bright idea one day, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
and I've always been a fan of the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
Being an expatriate, having seen the shows 18 years ago in England, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
I didn't understand why they hadn't been here. There are so many expats, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
also there's people from all over the world that have emigrated to Australia | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
and brought along all their treasures. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
And I felt that it was necessary to get the crowd here | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
and give us a show, and I'm just so delighted | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
the amount of people that have shown up. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Well, thousands wanted to come, and thank you very much for starting it all off. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
-For being on our side. -Thank you for taking that long trip. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-And are you free for dinner? -Oh, absolutely, thank you. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
Here you've got a work by Thancoupie who is Australia's | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
foremost Aboriginal ceramicist and if we look at the bottom here, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
we can see we've got Thancoupie's signature on the bottom. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
It's a beautiful piece. If you look at the earthenware it's got a lovely texture to it, hasn't it? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
And if you think about Aboriginal people and how important the land is to them, their culture, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
their relationship with their country, it's an interesting piece, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
it's quite evocative of Aboriginal culture. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
She was born in the 1930s, born Gloria James, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
and was the first indigenous person to actually get tertiary qualifications in ceramics. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:38 | |
So she's quite a ground-breaker because she was marrying, or linking, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:44 | |
traditional Aboriginal stories with ceramics, which is a relatively | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
new medium for Aboriginal artists. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
These are unsigned. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
So they're a little harder to sell because they don't have a signature. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
They may well be by Thancoupie, they certainly look like they are. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
So one would think that in the contemporary market, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
these smaller pieces would be worth in the vicinity of about 500 each. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
This larger piece, which has the wonderful signature on the bottom, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
would be worth in the vicinity of about 2,500 to 3,000. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:26 | |
So you're looking at about £1,000 for this piece here. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
Wow. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
So if you put flowers in them, be very careful. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
-No! -And don't put them near an open window. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
-No, at that price! Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
It's been in my possession for 36 years but it was given to my mother, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:50 | |
on the occasion of her 21st birthday | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
on 21st September 1910, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
by a gentleman, the name of Christianson, Mr Bill Christianson. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
He mined that in Lightning Reach. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
If there is one gem that we, back in the UK, associate with Australia, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:12 | |
it's the opal. It's as much an association that we have with all the indigenous things here. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:18 | |
-Yes. -Kangaroos and kookaburras, opals. So I was hoping that someone | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
-was going to bring in a lovely opal. -Good. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Here we have a drop-shape opal in the frame. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
You've dated it for me, 1910. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
There we have a very simple, you know, very basic gold frame, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
which is decorated with beaded motifs around the outside. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
You turn it over. First key point, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
the opal should be the same colour that you can see at the back, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
because you've got these things called triplets, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
you've got these composition opals which are a slice of real material | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
which has got often a backing, or it may even have a cover on it, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
and that creates a composition of gem which is not a solid true stone. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:04 | |
This, of course, is the proper solid opal. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
Although we don't know what it weighs because it's mounted up, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
in my opinion it probably weighs seven or possibly eight carats. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
Now gemologically, what are they, opals? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Well, they are a type of jelly. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
And sometimes as much as 10% or 15% of these are water, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
and that gives rise to a problem. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Opals dry out, and opals have a tendency to crack. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
So that is one issue to bear in mind. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Opals therefore have this play of colour | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
which reflects from what you might call little tiny cells | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
within the stone itself, and it's the reflection of those cells | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
that give it this wonderful rainbow effect. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
I think we can see there, if I turn it, certainly in this light. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
-Yes. -I've got a really good play of pink fire with red flash in the stone. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:02 | |
The issue then moves on to what might an opal like this be worth. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:09 | |
The market here is far more knowledgeable, I think, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
than the market we have in Europe. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
I would probably expect it to be worth | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
something in the region of £15,000 for insurance purposes. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:26 | |
That's around about Australian 35,000, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
-something like that. That's for insurance purposes. -Yes. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
I have no doubt that in the market here, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
there will be people that will pay more for it. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
Here we have something though that I was hoping beyond hope I would see. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
-You have not disappointed me. -Thank you. It is beautiful. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
That's a very interesting way of bringing things in, in a pram. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
-Can you tell me about what you've got? -This is my father's collection. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
-He was the therapist for the Australian cricket team for many many years. -Yes. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
And he was in the beginning of World Series cricket. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
-Really? -He realised that there would be valuable things | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
to hand down to his grandchildren and great grandchildren. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
-Would you mind if I have a quick rummage around? -No, I'd love you to. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
-Good. -Everything's signed. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Right, OK. This looks like World Series cricket. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
-Definitely, there's three teams, this is the Australian team. -OK. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
And in here's the West Indies. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
-Right. -And possibly international team, or English team. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
That is the English team, I notice a few that I recognise here. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
There's Graham Dilley and Bob Taylor, who was the wicket keeper. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
This is a nice piece, the signatures are in fairly nice condition. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
At auction that would probably fetch in the region of 200 to 400. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
-Wow. -You're looking at around £100 to £200. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
-Well, OK. -Now. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
OK, now this... | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
this is something rather special. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
-Can you tell me anything? -It was Ian Chappell's. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
-Right. -Possibly my dad fixed something for him, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
and he went on to do quite well in the game somewhere. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
Because my dad's 90 with Alzheimer's, he doesn't remember. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Right, this is a very significant piece of sporting memorabilia. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
It's actually initialled here, you can see it's initialled IC. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-Ian Chappell, Ian Chappell was the captain of Australia. -He would have been. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
Yes, he was unbeaten, he never lost a series as test captain, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
he played in over 70 tests. And... | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
The baggy green is considered really to be the most collectable type of cricket memorabilia, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:45 | |
and cricket is really the most collectable Australian sport, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
this is fantastic. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
If it were to appear at auction in Australia, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
this would conservatively make between 6,000 and 8,000. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
-My goodness! -Which translates in English pounds | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
to around £2,500 to £4,500, so it's quite a find. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:10 | |
-Wow. -Mmm. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Here we are in Sydney, Australia. And here is a collection, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
a fabulous collection of Maria Callas - photographs and letters. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:25 | |
Why Maria Callas, why not Sutherland? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Why not Nellie Melba? | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
Well, my mum gave me a recording of "The Barber of Seville" | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
back when I was 10 or 11, and the voice just amazed me. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
I think I've always started collecting her ever since, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
I've friends who worked with her. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
But this is a very sophisticated collection. This is quite incredible, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
I've never seen anything like it. You've got piles of them. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
You've got these ones by Angus McBean, of course. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
-But there's piles of them. -Yeah. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
All signed. But which is your favourite thing here? | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Well, I think my favourite is the London "Traviata" | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
-for which this... -This one here? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
I've also brought in "Tosca", from London and "Norma" from London, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
all great British photographers. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
She owned these photographs, gave them to fans. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
As much as I love the signed photos and how personal they are, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
I go to the letters, which I feel actually | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
illuminate her rather more. There's one here to "Dearest Henry". | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
Henry is an unknown friend of Maria's and this was written in 1949 | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
before she got married, where she's telling him how much she's in love | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
and that she desperately needs her birth certificate, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
to get married in Italy. It confirms her full name, her parents' names | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
her real date of birth and, you know, how happy she is, etc, etc. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
But you see, that to me, is more exciting really than... | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
-It's unpublished too, so, never been seen. -That's even better. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
And this one just goes on for pages. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
-I know. -"Dearest Leo, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
"I have received your very dear letter." What's that about? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
Leo was her godfather whom she confided in him in the '60s, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
through the '70s and here in 1975 she's bemoaning the loss of her voice | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
but she may have to go and sing, that Di Stefano loved her, but they couldn't marry. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
It goes on for pages and pages and pages. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
If you were text-messaging this, it would go in two lines or something! | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
But this is very much more important. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
So how many items have you got altogether? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
I guess, maybe 70 or 80 signed photographs of varying sizes | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
and maybe 20 letters. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Well, I think 20 letters are very rare. Well, autographically. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
Theoretically, she shouldn't be rare because she is an opera singer | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
and would give all these things to her friends, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
-but people are incredibly excited by Maria Callas. -I think... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
She wasn't so rare, it's just that the demand exceeds the generous supply and very much so. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
-And it's not going away. -Certainly in the US she's very hot. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
-Yeah, everywhere. -In Australia she's very hot too? -Absolutely. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
And England too is very keen on her, as well, and all her recordings. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
I was fortunate to see her in the Festival Hall in London in 1974, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
-not the voice it was, but... -But even so, it was still there. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
I think that's wonderful. How long has this collection taken? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
20 years, I guess. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
How much have you paid for it all? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
Thousands, I guess. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
I should think you have. I would say that you have got, Australian, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
the best part of a quarter of a million Australian dollars? | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
-Good grief. -Which is something like £100,000 to £125,000. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
Wow! Are you sure? | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
It's a fantastic collection and wonderful to see it, thank you for bringing it in. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
Well, it's going back to England eventually, I've decided in my will | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
to leave it to the V&A Museum in London. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
Is that the right place for it? | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
I think so, yes. She loved London, she loved the audiences there. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
I thought, let's keep it in the English-speaking world and London. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
I used to live in England, loved the V&A, so why not? | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-They're very happy to receive it. -That's very generous of you. -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
They're not, as pieces of silver, terribly artistic. What's the history behind them? | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
I brought them in because they're trophies won by my grandfather for his excellence in poultry farming. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:27 | |
He had hens that could lay more eggs than anyone else's, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
and these items were won by birds that he sent to India | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
and they laid more eggs than any of the hens there, so he won prizes. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
I think it's wonderful. I also like the documentation that comes with it. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
Here is a letter, or actually a sort of manuscript. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
It's a testimonial dated 1925 and it says here, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
"If you had sent four pullets to make a team, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
"you would have won the team prize hands down, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
"as your three laid an average of 61 eggs apiece." | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
-That's truly amazing. -Incredible. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
-But you don't poultry-farm any more? -Oh, no! | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Truly exceptional pieces, not because of the quality, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
but the history with them. It's important that in the future all the documents you have, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:17 | |
and you have more, I know, are kept with them and the story goes on down. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Because these are not worth a lot of money | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
but as a bit of the history of poultry farming, they're unique, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
so we're talking about a few hundred dollars, you know, not a great deal. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
-But a fantastic story. -Thank you. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
Well, I've come halfway round the world | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
to meet the strongest monarchist in the country. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
-Thank you. -Is that a fair description? | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
It's certainly a passion of mine. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
I think they're fantastic little pictures. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
There's the representations of the different monarchs themselves, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
and it's also a history of costumery as well. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
You're going for every British monarch ever, is that your plan? | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
I've gone right back to Edgar and Egbert | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
who was the grandfather of Alfred the Great. I'm trying to fill in all the gaps before then, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
but I've been able to get a representation over there of the Conscience of the King. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
That's King Cerdic so that's around 500AD. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
I'm still looking for King Aella of Sussex and some of the Northumberland Bretwaldas, Edwin, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
if any of your viewers are able to steer me in the right direction. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
I was in Sussex only last week, I could have looked round for you! | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
So what started you off in this obsession? | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
Well, I've always been interested in history and when I was young, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
my family holidayed in England. I did my university degree in history | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
and I lived in Britain for three years, so that got me going. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:48 | |
This one behind me here is one of the more recent pieces I picked up, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
that was in a flea market in Sydney, a battered old remnant | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
that I think to the stallholder was just some woman, | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
but I knew it was Queen Alexandra and so I got it for 5. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
They don't all have a pictorial representation, do they? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
Pretty much all of them do. This one was the first contemporaneous portrait, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:13 | |
Richard II, 1377 so that's 600 years before the Queen's Silver Jubilee. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:18 | |
So all the monarchs represented here before that period | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
are imagined portraits perhaps taken from death effigies on their tomb, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
or from coins or something. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
How do you get them? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
Some of them, I just bought them in shops and flea markets and that, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
but to get some of the more obscure ones, I've had to source different publications, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
18th, 19th, 20th-century publications, and then tried to marry them | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
into appropriate sort of antique and collectable frames. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
-Is this a very expensive hobby? -No, not at all. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
I can buy some of these nice little collectable frames at flea markets | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
for about 5 and if I can find an appropriate picture | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
then it's not an expensive hobby at all. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
And are you tempted to extend your collection beyond the British monarchy? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
Certainly not. I want to collect more of the British monarchs | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
and more of their consorts, but I wouldn't pollute my collection with non-British monarchs. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:15 | |
To show that I'm even-handed, I've got Bonnie Prince Charlie, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
not looking terribly bonny in that picture. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
This is a fairly modern representation, what's that one? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
My mother went to England in the 1950s | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
and was at the Coronation Procession. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
That's the Queen in her carriage. My mother made that piece | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
and in recent years gave it to me. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
How lovely. And there is our own dear Queen, when Princess Elizabeth. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
Yes, I'm particularly fond of that one because of the caption underneath that simply says | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
"Beloved throughout the British Empire". | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
-I think we should stand up at that point. -God Save the Queen. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
Now I think I can safely say | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
the last thing I would ever have expected to see in Sydney | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
is some pieces of china that are to do with the suffragette movement. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
Here we have a cup, saucer and a plate, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
clearly decorated with the badge WSPU, the Women's Social and Political Union. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:14 | |
What on earth are they doing here? | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
Well, my grandmother gave a complete set to me. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
-Hang on, what was that word, a complete set? -A complete set. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
-There's more? -There's more! | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
She had been given the set by a friend of hers, Mrs Cullen, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
who had gone to the UK in the early 1900s | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
to assist in the women's suffrage movement. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And I had a paper cutting | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
where it described her being thrown out of the House of Commons in 1905. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:46 | |
-That's very early. -Yes. -What's this cloth? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
Well, this came with the set. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
-And it's in the right colours. -Yes. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
-Purple and green. -Yes. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
These are classic suffrage pieces with the badge, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
but obviously somebody has made this at the time to go with it. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
-Yes, it would seem so, yes. -Now these were made in Britain in I suppose 1912-ish, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
it's difficult to know the date with no records, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
by a Staffordshire company called Williamson, though that's unimportant. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
-Yes. -The importance is entirely in the badge | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
and no-one knows how large-scale the production was, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
because clearly you had to be a dedicated suffrage person | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
-to serve your tea in things badged in that way. -Yes. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
Cups and saucers turn up, occasional pieces turn up, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
but they're very rare and very desirable. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I think when I heard you say that phrase, a complete set, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
I can't believe it. What does that mean? | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
A complete set is six cups, six saucers, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
six plates, a cake plate, a teapot, a sugar bowl and a milk jug. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
So these are yours, and they've come from the family connection. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
Where do you fit in? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
I fit in, in that watching the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
-I saw a cup and saucer on the show. -Like this? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
Exactly the same as the cup and saucer, other than it had a crack, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:13 | |
and it was only the one piece. I remember the gentleman who assessed the piece | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
commenting on, wouldn't it be wonderful to see a full set, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
they just don't exist, so, of course, I rang my friend Elizabeth. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
And said? "Get out your set." | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I said, "Elizabeth, get out the set." | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
Well, I think that's great because a complete set is the dream | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
and it's a wonderful thing to fulfil here. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
Now, you know it's very rare, you know it's going to be expensive | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
but do you know how expensive? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
I'm afraid I have no idea. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Well, that's not true, we had a bet. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:49 | |
All right, what was the bet? | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
-Come on, tell me the bet. -What did we say? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
I said, I went the highest and I thought 10,000. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
-For the set? -For the set. -OK, yours? | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
-And I said two. -2,000. -And my husband Alex said five. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
Right, OK, assuming it's complete and in good condition, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
I'm going to say... | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
£3,000 to £5,000 and that means... | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
About 8,000. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
About 8,000 to 10,000, so, you win the bet. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
I thought I won the bet. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
Well done, but seriously, this is a very important thing to look after, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
it's a great piece of history, Australian history as well as British. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
And I'm amazed to see it, and very pleased. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
I think we should say that actually Australia, South Australia, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
in fact, got the vote for women first | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
and that's why Mrs Cullen went to England to assist them. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
-As did New Zealand. -Yes, indeed. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
-Exactly. So you showed us how to do it, as ever, thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:59 | |
For now, many thanks to all our Sydneysider friends, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
and until the next time, goodbye. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 |