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Welcome back to Norwich for our second programme | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
from the city's Anglican Cathedral, an 11th-century gem. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
And while our experts reassemble in the cloisters, I thought we'd have a peep inside. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
You'd expect a cathedral to have fabulous stained glass and lashings of religious art, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
and Norwich comes through on both those counts, but what is really special here isn't quite so obvious. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:20 | |
For example, there's a collection of carvings that are so high up | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
in this vaulted ceiling that you need a telescopic lens to see them. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
Luckily, we have one. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
The beautifully carved keystones or ceiling bosses are unique | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
and are amongst the greatest hidden glories of Medieval art. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Created by stonemasons between 1300 and 1515, there are more than a thousand of them. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:45 | |
Some are inspired by stories from the Bible, others by scenes from medieval mystery plays. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
Among the less obvious symbols, this row of jagged teeth is supposed to represent the mouth of Hell. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:59 | |
Three damned souls are guarded by a toad-like creature. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
More than 70 feet below those carvings, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
the tip-up seats of the choir stalls have these carved flaps. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
They're called misericords, from the Latin word for "mercy", and it's easy to see why, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:17 | |
because they were to support frail and aged monks | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
who had to be on their feet through eight hours of services a day. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
The stalls date from the 15th century so they've acquired a nice polish from ageing bottoms. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
The carvings include an extraordinary array | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
of exotic creatures and some fairly enigmatic symbolism. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
A mermaid suckling a lion represents the seductive force of a temptress. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
This man riding a deer is thought to be the personification of lechery. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
Antlers are an ancient symbol of adultery. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
But there are everyday scenes too, which, like the ceiling bosses, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
offer an authentic view of life in those days. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
In 1996, to celebrate the cathedral's 900th birthday, the Dean and Chapter | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
commissioned some new misericords which will give future visitors a glimpse of the way WE were. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:07 | |
One of them shows hard-working students | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
at the University of East Anglia, another has two of the heroes of Norwich City Football Club. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:16 | |
Meanwhile, over in the cloisters, our experts have taken their pews for another Antiques Roadshow. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
This is a wonderful photograph of a very grand house somewhere. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:31 | |
And I'm guessing there must be a relationship with these little creatures we've got here. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-Tell me the story. -It's the story of my grandparents' romance. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
That's my grandfather. He was the under-gardener. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
-And his name was? -Ernest. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Ernest Reeve. And Granny worked in the house at the back, and they always called her Nellie next door. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:50 | |
And the people in the family here, they set up a romance between them. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
The lady of the house said, "Ernest we've got these lovely apples, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
"and Nellie next door comes from a large family - give some to her to take home." | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
And he took them home for her. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
And anyway, they got married, and of course my mother came along, and the housemaid, who I gather was | 0:04:04 | 0:04:10 | |
one of these two, bought that bunny for my mother on 29th January 1904. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:17 | |
And you date it so precisely? | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
-Well, she was four days old. -Well, these little creatures, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-they look as if they've got a story to tell. Do you like them? -No. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
-Neither of them? -No. -Oh, shut its little ears up! | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
They've always lived under the back bedroom bed in a pillowcase. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
Well, I'm just stroking this rather lovely velveteen coat of this little bunny. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:42 | |
Do you think he was new in 1904? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
I'm convinced he was new. My grandmother wouldn't have anything second-hand in the house. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-She didn't like it. -Well, I don't think he was second-hand either, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
but he would have been really quite an expensive present. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
-It would take up the best part of a week's salary for a housemaid. -Really? -It would. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:02 | |
-When she bought him, he would have had a little pair of slippers on. -I remember those. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
-You do? -My mother said he had a blue jacket, but I don't remember that. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
And do you know where he left his little blue jacket? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
-I don't know. -In Mr McGregor's garden. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
-You think he's Peter Rabbit? -He IS Peter Rabbit. -He is a Peter Rabbit? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-He is a Peter Rabbit, made by a German company called Steiff. -Really? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
It was in fact Beatrix Potter who asked the Steiff factory to make | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
-Peter Rabbit cuddly toys... -Yes. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
..because they were the best company, she felt that they would | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
best represent him in the most accurate ways. And who's his friend? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
Well, he's the teddy. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
He came later. My mother had measles quite badly when she was about four, and the lady of the house said, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:49 | |
"Poor little Susan, she must have something nice" and sent him. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Let's have a look and see if she bought a better-quality toy, and I actually don't think that she did. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:59 | |
He is almost certainly German. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
He's made out of a nice silvery-coloured plush. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
You can just see where he's not too threadbare. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
What I think is particularly charming about him, though, is this wonderful | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
kind of lopsided smile created by being cuddled against a cheek for decades. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:21 | |
And so his little smile's got very lop-sided. No, he's charming. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
And boot-button eyes here. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Value today... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
I think the little bear we'd be talking about perhaps £400. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
-Good heavens! -But the bunny, I think, would be a little bit more than that. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
Even as he is, I think he's probably going to be around £500. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
In lovely condition with his jacket, he'd fetch many thousands, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
as much maybe as the world record of 20,000. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
No! | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
So I think it's worth making the hunt for the missing pieces but I think... | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
-That is amazing. -It is amazing. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
But I also think what is so wonderful is that we've been able to pinpoint | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
them, not just in a date line, but also in a family line. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
Yes! I think that's why I hang on to them, because they are sort of part of the family, really. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
It was given to my dad | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
by his ex-boss, who remarried and moved to Malta. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
Yeah. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
-He said, "Yes, please" but gave it to me because he hated it. -Hated it. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:29 | |
And he gave it to me because we'd just bought our first caravan. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
And he said, "Would you like it for the caravan?" | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
It bounces along in your caravan. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-No, we never did put it into the caravan. -No? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
I just put it in the cupboard and saw a programme on | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
television one day, and somebody mentioned Clarice Cliff. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
And I thought, "I recognise that name," looked at the dinner service and thought, "Clarice Cliff," | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
and it's just sat there ever since. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
And have you been following Clarice Cliff ever since? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Because there's her signature in the printed mark. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Biarritz is the range, made at Royal Staffordshire, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
and then the number in there tells us it's 1933. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
Each one will have the date on it. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
You've got what, six... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-plates of everything? -Six of that one and the top two there, and then one of that, that and that. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
So you're getting on for 24 pieces in total. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
Well, this is actually quite an unusual pattern with this little inset landscape. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
I've not seen this pattern before. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
It's going to appeal to Clarice Cliff collectors. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
It's nice, jazzy, wonderfully rectangular, really '30s stuff. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
You're sitting on a dinner service that is probably going to cost you, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
if you buy it at auction, in the region of £1,500, maybe £2,500. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
Really? | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
Lovely. Thank you! | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Never in the whole history of the world | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
-has anybody ever achieved metalwork like the Japanese. -Yes. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
They were staggeringly good, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
and they were good because they were a very warlike nation, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
they were always fighting each other, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
and for that you needed swords, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-and with the swords came sword guards and scabbard furniture. -Mm-hm. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:13 | |
And it was from that, when they banned swords in the 1870s, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:19 | |
-that the metalworkers turned to making objects for the West. -Yes. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:25 | |
-And that's what this is. -Ah! | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
How did you get it? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
-It belongs to my mother. -Oh, yes. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
But it came from my grandmother. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
We believe they went on a cruise to the Far East and picked it up. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
That's all we know. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Pre-war. Before the war. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
I'd be kind of hesitant about that story. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
This was made for the West... | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-Right. -..in about 1890, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
so the question we have to ask ourselves is what was it still | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
-doing in Japan when your grandmother took her cruise, which would have been probably the '30s, right? -Yeah. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:04 | |
-I don't think it's as late as that. -Right. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
What it certainly is is a very charming box. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
It's made of... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Oh! It's made of a very heavy cast metal, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
which has been patinated to this black colour. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
And the great joy about it is that nobody's cleaned it. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
People say, "Oh, black, must be silver, therefore it must need polishing." But nobody's done that. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:33 | |
We've got a little bit of surface wear on here but it's not too bad. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
We've got silver snow on Mount Fuji up here. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
We've got an eagle perched on a very high relief rock, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
which is looking at its lunch down here. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-Do you have an idea what that is? -Well, I think it might be a fox. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
-Right. -One would have expected a rabbit, or a hare, more likely. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
And then details in gold. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
We've got a praying mantis, a snail, a... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
Put the glasses on. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
A stag beetle, a crab, dragonfly and a bat, a batty bat! Erm, a hornet... | 0:11:08 | 0:11:15 | |
I mean, it's just a joy. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
It's just a joy. I love it. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
And this would have sat probably on your grandmother's dressing table | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
and taken a necklace or jewellery of some sort. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Well, I love it. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
I think it's a wonderful thing. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
And presumably it's going to come to you one day, is it? | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
Possibly, I've got a twin sister, though. We might have to share it. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
I think it's great fun. Erm, I think | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
it needs an insurance figure on it | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
of £1,800, £2,000 on it for insurance. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
-Fantastic. -It's a nice thing. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
This is certainly to my memory one of the best pieces we've ever had on the Roadshow. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
It's a very fine English shotgun, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
but, unlike most English shotguns, it's barrels are over and under | 0:12:05 | 0:12:11 | |
rather than side by side. Where did you get it from? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
Because it is so unusual for a gun of this period, from the 1770s. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Well, I was given it by an old gentleman in the 1950s, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
-late 1950s, and I've had it ever since. -Really? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
It's made by a chap called Bunny, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
who was based in both Birmingham and London and was one of the leading makers of the day. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
And it's unusual because even though it's an over-and-under configuration, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
both the barrels aren't actually fired by separate locks. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
It relies on one lock. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
And very cleverly, when one barrel has been fired, you just simply | 0:12:45 | 0:12:51 | |
rotate it round to produce the other by pulling back on the trigger guard. Have you ever actually used it? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Yes, I have, yes. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
What I can't quite get over is that you can actually prime | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
the second barrel completely in the flash pan and turn it over, and it works perfectly. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
When you fire the first one, just draw it back to half-cock, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
pull it back full-cock, and you're ready to go. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
And that gave you a very, very quick second shot. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
And at the time that this was made, most sporting guns were | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
single barrel and relatively long, and before 1787, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
with the invention of Knox patent breech, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
you needed that huge barrel to get the ballistics so that the powder burned. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
This relies on a very much shorter barrel because you | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
can compress the two, and it's a really very, very manageable gun. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-I don't think it's actually very much different from a modern clay-pigeon gun. -No, it's lighter. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
Yes. And it's very, very typical in terms of decoration and style of the period, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:49 | |
that lovely graceful dropped butt | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
and this fine engraving on the lock plate | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
and the side plate and also on the tank. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
I think that because it is so unusual, and I have wracked my brains | 0:14:01 | 0:14:08 | |
to think of where I've seen any others... I think that there's one in the Royal Armouries, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:14 | |
and I believe that there was one in a very significant private collection, but I don't think it was sold. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
And I think that a gun like this, of this period, of this quality, and it's absolutely exquisite quality, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:25 | |
with this unusual configuration | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
and mechanism is really going to set the British sporting shotgun collecting fraternity on fire, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:35 | |
and I think anywhere between £10,000 to £15,000. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
-Well, thank you very much! -Thank you for bringing it. It's absolutely wonderful. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
I shan't sell it! | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
A few years ago, I fell in love, and I fell in love with a place | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
called Venice, and Venice is where your pot came from. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
-Did you buy it there? -No, we didn't. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-My husband bought it from a shop in London because he liked the colours. -Simply fell in love with it. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
-He just completely fell in love with the yellow and the blue. -The colour of it IS splendid. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:05 | |
If you just look at these wonderful greens, the blues, the yellow, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
the wonderful manganese on his hair, it's a splendid thing. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
And if you go to Venice, even today in the pharmacies, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
the farmacia as they are in Italian, they still have these wonderful drug jars. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
Do you have any idea how old it is? | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
About 100 years old. 200 years old? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
-So would it surprise you if I said 300 years old? -Yes. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
Well, that's exactly what it is. It's a 17th-century Venetian drug jar. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
Fantastic. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
And it's fabulous. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
It's unfortunate that the best side, in my opinion, is this wonderful... | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
It's almost like a wonderful fabric, you can imagine some great Venetian | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
noble with a magnificent robe, all these wonderful colours. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
It has, what we say in Newcastle, a ding on it. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
It's been hit there, and it's rather shattered. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
Fortunately, I suppose the face is still perfect. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
-But even like this, what do you think it might be worth? -Well, he paid a few hundred pounds for it. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
He didn't actually tell me how many hundred pounds, because I think he was nervous to tell me at the time. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
Well, even with the damage it's going to be worth £2,000 to £2,500. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:20 | |
Wow! Really? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
If it was perfect it would be £6,000 to £8,000. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
But even like this, even with this crack in it, £2,000 to £2,500. It's a splendid object. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:30 | |
So I'm not to be cross with him any more that he bought it? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-He deserves a big hug, I think! -I think he does! -Yep. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
This looks tantalising. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
I always like to see things wrapped up. Have you ever opened this? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
-No, I haven't. -No? -No. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
And it says on the upper cover "MS of the Iron Horse". | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
I imagine that means "Manuscript of The Iron Horse". | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
It's a novel by RM Ballantyne, 19th-century novelist. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
-My great-grandfather. -Really? -Yeah. -The author of Coral Island... -Yeah. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
-..was your great-grandfather? -Yeah. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
So this has been in your family? | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
This was left to me by my grandmother, his daughter, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
and there's two more that were left to my brother and my father. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
-Wonderful! -And we've been clearing out my mum's attic and they've come to light. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
-Fantastic. Shall we open it? -Yeah, go for it. -Let's take the string off. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Very worried about doing this, you see. That's why I've never done it. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I'm hoping this is what I... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
It's going to be. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
Fabulously wrapped contemporary newspaper. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
And yes, I recognise this handwriting. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
This is certainly Ballantyne's hand, and I think this genuinely is | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
the manuscript of the novel The Iron Horse. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
And from the look of it, I would have thought it's absolutely complete. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
I don't know how many pages we've got here. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
332. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
And it finishes with the words "The End, RMB Edinburgh 16th August 1871," | 0:17:51 | 0:17:58 | |
so yes, here we've got one complete manuscript by RM Ballantyne. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
This looks like another complete manuscript. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
The Lifeboat: A Tale by R M Ballantyne again with illustrations. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:14 | |
This is rather longer, I would imagine this is 400, possibly 450 pages. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
Again it looks absolutely complete, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
which is tremendous - another complete novel in manuscript. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
-Do you think this is a third? -I think so. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
-Fighting the Flames: a Tale of the London Fire Brigade". -Yeah. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
He was a wonderful novelist, wasn't he? Very hands-on, very exciting. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
He always, as far as I understood it, worked doing the things he was then going to write about, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:44 | |
so if he wrote about the fire brigade he'd have actually gone and done some work for the fire brigade. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
-And been a fireman. -And the lifeboat, the same thing, and probably worked | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
-on the trains doing that before he wrote the books. -How fabulous. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
-So he was writing from experience as well as from... -That's right. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
..the Boy's Own side of things, which is where he comes from. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Well, even one of these would have been quite an exciting discovery, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
but for you to come along here and bring me three is really wonderful! | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
And especially to unwrap one which hasn't been unwrapped, I imagine, for 50 to 100 years. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
-Is there a date on the paper? -Yes. Let's have a look. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-1889. -Wow. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
-So it's been wrapped up since then. Isn't it tremendous? -Fantastic, yes. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
As far as value goes, I mean, he wrote an enormous amount. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
You're probably aware he was a tremendous writer. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
I think he wrote 80 novels in his career, so he wrote at great speed. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
-Yeah. -And there are examples of his manuscripts in collections | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
across the world, but, obviously, there are only 80. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-Yeah. -So to have three is very nice. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
I would imagine at auction today these would fetch | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
in the region of £2,000 to £3,000 each, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
-so we're looking at three together at quite a substantial sum. -Yeah. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
And I think it's a very exciting literary discovery. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Yes, it's working out what to do with them - to leave them to a museum or... | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
-I don't know. -I'm sure they'd be very happy if you did. -Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
Thank you. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
When you and your friends pitched up with this earlier on, I thought, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
"If you haven't got to the wrong queue, you've probably got to the wrong venue." | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
What were you doing here? Until I had a look. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
This is fascinating. What can you tell me about it? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Well, my father gave it to me for Christmas 2001, a few years ago. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
I wondered what it was. I kept asking him questions - where did he get it from? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:34 | |
And he bought it in an auction about 25 years ago in London, and he told me that it was | 0:20:34 | 0:20:41 | |
by an artist called Marcel Duchamp, who I'd never heard of at the time. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
And I said, "What do you do with it?" | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
and he showed my how to spin it, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
and it's actually a record, and he told me that it has Marinetti, a futurist poet, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:58 | |
his poetry from his own voice on the record. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
I keep asking him to take it out and show me, but he's too scared that I'm going to drop it, so... | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
What's unique about it, what I love about it, is it's an optical illusion. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
You can either see a red sphere in a black background or a white sphere in a red tunnel, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
and I love looking at it just constantly trying to change my eye between the two. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:23 | |
I'm already feeling slightly spaced out. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Yeah, I think that's what he wanted to... | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
that's the image he wanted to convey to his audience. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
I love all his artwork and the way he deals with optics, and he created many moving machines. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:38 | |
What we're dealing with here is the most exciting artist, as you yourself have perceived, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
of the 20th century, in many ways. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
Without Marcel Duchamp, we wouldn't have modern art as we know it and pop art and all sorts of other -isms | 0:21:45 | 0:21:51 | |
that have come out of the early 20th century would not exist without him. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Of course, he's the man who did the urinal, as well, as you know, and got away with it. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
Put it in front of him, signed it and, yes, it was the Marcel Duchamp, the great seminal work of art. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:05 | |
He was a very interesting, confrontational, edgy figure. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
You have got part of the set - sadly you haven't got the other five | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
or six that probably came with it, nor indeed do you have, or do we have, access to the back, so we can't | 0:22:13 | 0:22:21 | |
work out whether or not it may be a greater original than just a reproduction of the set of six. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
However, on the basis that I think what it is IS what it is, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:33 | |
it's worth about £2,000. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
I didn't realise. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Perhaps you ought to give it back to him now. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
-Yes! Thank you. -You'll take that back on the bus now, will you? -Yes. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:47 | |
Don't drop it. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
Well, it's a fantastic portrait. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
You don't often get terracotta which depicts character so well as we have here, | 0:22:54 | 0:23:00 | |
and you've got a whole set of them, so tell me the story. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Well, they belonged to a great-aunt, and that's all I can tell you. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
She lived in Hove, she never travelled, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
but she did have a gentleman friend who travelled. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
But I don't know where he went, what he did. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
OK. Well, obviously they have travelled, they have somehow made their way from India to Norwich. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:23 | |
They are beautifully exotic little figures. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
I haven't seen terracotta figures of this calibre very many times, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
certainly not on the Roadshow, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
and they were made in India, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
obviously to cater for the Raj taste, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
for people who were probably reasonably high up in the Indian army | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
as souvenirs of their time in India. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
And of course, many of them, so to speak, went native - they loved India so much that they wanted to | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
stay there or they were homesick for India when they came back to Britain. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
Terracotta is basically burnt earth - that's what the word means. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
And if we look underneath them | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
we can see the natural colour of the clay here. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
It's that sort of sandy-type clay. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
It's a very difficult, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
brittle clay to work, and to make figures like this you really do need to reinforce them. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
And you can see here, peeping out at the bottom there are two pins, and these undoubtedly connect | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
right through the legs, through the body, they form the armature of the modelling. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
So, you know, a lot of effort and thought has gone into these. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
These are not mass-produced, each one is an individual sculpture, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
which contrasts with all the porcelain figures we see on the show, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
because they, by and large, are press-moulded and mass-produced. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
I think these are absolutely charming, incredibly rare little terracotta figures. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
They're probably 100 years old. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
I would say that if you talk in terms of maybe £100, £200 apiece, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
so that takes us, if we go for the upper limit, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
that takes us to somewhere in the region of maybe £1,500, £1,800. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Good gracious! | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Thank you. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
What do you think this is? | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
My husband thought it was the top of a walking stick. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
The top of a walking stick? What do you think it's made of? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
I don't know. Horn? A horn of some kind? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
You're right, it is a horn. That's absolutely spot-on. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
It looks a bit like plastic, doesn't it? But it is horn. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
This is actually inlaid in ivory, those pieces, and stained, and it's in the form of a cicada, I think. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:32 | |
And it's Japanese, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
and it dates from probably in the middle of the 19th century. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
-Oh. -And those two holes are the clue as to what it is. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
It's actually a netsuke, which is worn at the waistband like that. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
Right. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
I think it's a very unusual and rare object. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
I think you wouldn't have much trouble getting around £1,000 for it. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
Good heavens! | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
-Good heavens! -A bit of a shock? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
Well, it is. It's a big shock. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Good! | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
-Thank you. -I'll look at it with different eyes. -Well done. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
The minute I open something like this | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
and I find I've got a row of no less than six | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
golfing buttons, it sets the pulse racing for a few people. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
Do you come from a golfing family? | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
I don't. Not that I know, anyway. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
-So you're not a golf widow or anything like that? -No, no. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Well, they're printed on celluloid. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
It's a sort of an early form of plastic. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
The fact that they're wearing the sort of costumes that we've got here | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
dates them to probably around about 1910, maybe 1920. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
Golf collectors, they're there on an international scale these days, you know, so if you were to | 0:26:43 | 0:26:50 | |
put something like this up for auction, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
-what do you reckon they'd be valued at? -I've no idea. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
-Do you want to have a stab? -£100? | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
£100? Actually, if you could get these for 100 you'd be doing | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
very nicely, because you wouldn't get them for less than £400. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
Really? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
-I wouldn't tell you a fib. -No. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
This is a copy of Black Beauty, which was one of my favourite books as a child. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
Lovely story, too - Anna Sewell as a young child had an accident. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
-I don't know whether you knew that. She sprained her ankles. -Yes. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
And so it meant that she was really quite confined in what she could do. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
And she loved horses. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
She wanted to write a book which | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
really set out the plight of reined horses, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
she wanted to make sure people were much less cruel to them. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
And we've got a copy here illustrated by Cecil Aldin. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
-Have you had it for long? -The book actually belongs to my mother. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I think she's had it for about 20 years or so. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
She runs a big book fair in Norwich every summer, and I think it probably came through that. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
I'll just turn into the book and see some of the illustrations, which are really beautiful. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
I mean, Cecil Aldin | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
was really quite famous as an illustrator of animals. He had a tremendous feeling for horses. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
Here we have Black Beauty as a foal with the mother, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
which is a gorgeous image, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
and propped up against my knees here is the original artwork. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
How did you come by that? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Well, I work for Jarrolds, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
which was a printer and publisher based in Norwich. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
And they published Black Beauty in the first edition and then commissioned these illustrations | 0:28:23 | 0:28:30 | |
from Cecil Aldin in 1912, and we've got most of the illustrations still, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
and they've been kept sort of hidden away, really. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
If we look at it, we can see his sympathy with the lines | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
of the horse, the way he highlights, and it looks... | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
You can see the beautiful shine on her coat, the mare, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
and little Black Beauty has got all that velvetiness that you associate with young horses. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:56 | |
It is something which is actually quite valuable. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
It's likely to be worth £3,000 or £4,000 at least, possibly more. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Goodness me! | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Gosh! | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
-Does that surprise you? -Yes, it does. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
We've got 13 of the illustrations. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
I think there were 18 originally. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
-We've got 13 of them. -So you can do the maths for me. -Yes! | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
Wow! Gosh, yes. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
I've got this dish. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
-It belonged to my grandmother. -Belonged to your grandmother. Right. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
It was her ashtray, actually. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
-Her ashtray?! -Her ashtray, yes. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
On her bedside cabinet. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
Goodness me! What an amazing ashtray. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
-Do you think that was what it was made for? -I have no idea. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
It's got a few stains on the back. Looks as if it might be some nicotine that has crept in there, but... | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
Yes, and it seems terribly uneven, and crude, almost. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
Yes, remarkably crude, isn't it? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Yeah. So I suppose you thought it might just be a bit of old junk. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
-Well, I hadn't really thought. -You hadn't really thought. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-It was just a quirky item. -Yeah. And did you notice this in the centre? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
-It looks like an anchor. -An anchor - that's exactly what it is. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
It's the mark of the Chelsea factory. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
-Chelsea. -Chelsea, and Chelsea porcelain is amongst the earliest porcelains produced in this country. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:06 | |
-Is it? -Indeed. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
So its crudeness is really a symptom of its early date, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
because it was made between 1749 | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
and 1751 at Chelsea in London. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
So I can just picture Granny sitting in a smoke-filled bedroom... | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
-Yes! -..stubbing out her cigarette ends on this delightful little thing. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
-How on earth did it get to be there? -I really have no idea. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
A mid-18th-century piece of porcelain, amongst the earliest pieces made in this country. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
You've surprised me, really. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
She was well travelled, the old lady, but... | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
She had a couple of shops in the London area, especially during the Blitz. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-Right. -They were newsagent's shops and tobacconist's. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
Maybe someone bartered her for it or paid a debt or she had a debt paid off something like this. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:51 | |
A newspaper bill or something, yeah. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
It was copied by the Chelsea factory from a much | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
earlier piece of Japanese porcelain in what we call the Kakiemon style. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
The piece that it copied would have dated from about 1680, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
so although this is mid-18th-century, you could regard it as a fake. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
But because it's Chelsea, because it's early, because it bears this rare early mark, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
it's worth £1,000. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
A thousand... | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
For an ashtray! | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Granny's ashtray makes £1,000. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
And as an interesting aside, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
the 1680 Japanese original which this is copying would only be worth £200. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:31 | |
So it's a measure of how special and how rare this piece of porcelain is. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
A thousand pound! | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
John, I feel we should be dancing around this. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
-This is a television icon, like the tower at Alexandra Palace, like yourself. -My dear! | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
-Remind us what it is. -This is the Anglia Knight, which we all know so well, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
but it fact it was made in 1850 for the King of the Netherlands. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
He was a patron of the Falcon Society - | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
horse riding and falconry and that sort of thing. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
He was so confident he was going to win his annual competition that he had this made in London. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
700 ounces of silver to make this fantastic figure. And it was won by an Englishman. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
He never saw it again - it stayed over here. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
It stayed until 1959, when Anglia went on air for the first time, and they adopted it as their flagship. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:23 | |
And Garrards made that to go on top, and one or two little minor adjustments, like his visor going | 0:32:23 | 0:32:29 | |
up and down, and it's been their flagship ever since - a marvellous thing, absolutely wonderful thing. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
I always thought it was about three inches high, like other things in television. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
Not me again! | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
-Where's it kept now? Do you know? -It's the East Anglia Archive Centre, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
and there it, hopefully, will remain for many more to enjoy forever. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
Well, these look like pieces of jewellery, but of course they've got | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
absolutely every element of a piece of Gothic architecture, haven't they? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
And it's your job, I think, to look after them, isn't it? | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
It is, yes. I'm one of the vergers here at the Cathedral. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
It's not my specific responsibility to look after silver, but I look after the vestments | 0:33:05 | 0:33:11 | |
and the linens of the Cathedral, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
and these two pieces we refer to as "the Bishop's bling". | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
Well! | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
They're wonderful things, they're the morses or clasps | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
which are used to hold together the front | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
of the Bishop's and the Dean's copes for festal occasions. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
They're fantastically sculptural, and I think that this one | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
was made for a very special occasion indeed, wasn't it? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
It was, yes, it was designed by Sir Ninian Comper for the coronation | 0:33:37 | 0:33:44 | |
of King Edward VII in 1902 | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
and worn with the cope and the mitre by Bishop Sheepshanks. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:53 | |
And the thing about the coronation, or, more specifically the | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
-anointing, is that very few people know that that's actually a sacrament, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
And so this was a piece of jewellery of monumental scale | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
to mark a moment of monumental sanctity, really, isn't it? | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
-And I think in the back there's a certain amount of evidence for that. -There is, yes. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
Behind the panel in the very centre is a relic of chrism oil | 0:34:15 | 0:34:21 | |
used to anoint the head | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
of the King at the coronation, and there's an inscription around there marking that. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:29 | |
It's a sacrament because the King or the Queen is seen as a priestly office | 0:34:29 | 0:34:35 | |
and chrism is the oil used to anoint priests at their ordination. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
Well, that really is the centre of this piece of jewellery, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
but I think the visual centre's jolly hard to find, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
because it's a hugely decorated and colourful piece of metalwork of the highest possible calibre, isn't it? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:53 | |
And Ninian Comper is a church furnisher and a designer. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
His work goes well into the 20th century, working around and about East Anglia, and I suppose, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
really, it's always been my point of view that jewellery represented | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
a sort of microcosm, a distillation of everything that's going on in the fine and decorative arts. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
-This is a distillation, but my goodness, it's a powerful brew! -Yes. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
And what an awesome responsibility for you to have to look after it. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
-Well, it is, yes. -And I think the use of the stones are rather | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
interesting, too. Any green stone is a sort of emblem of hope, but, more specifically, we can see that | 0:35:22 | 0:35:29 | |
amethysts have been used in profusion here, and they're pretty important, aren't they, in church lore. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:35 | |
-Do you know their significance? -I don't, no. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
They're an emblem of devotion, and amongst them there are sapphires | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
and rubies and garnets, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
and the garnet too may be a sort of tiny, covert reference to the Communion. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:50 | |
But anyway, they're almost hypnotic and I think that's a word one really can use for them. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
Well, this was only part of the extraordinary spectacle | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
at the coronation of King Edward VII in 1902, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
in which jewellery had a huge part, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
and it was worn by the peeresses - they wore tiaras in their hair and their coronets behind. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
But, in a way, the rank and the status of people | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
was endorsed throughout, and here are the Spiritual Lords making it | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
absolutely plain that they were very, very important people indeed. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
And very, very important people indeed wear enormous jewels, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
and the scale of this one hanging below is quite astonishing. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
I think at the time that it was made it was described as a topaz. People really believed it was. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Actually, now we know a little bit more about gemology and know that | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
this is actually a rock crystal, a cairngorm. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Goodness, I honestly don't think that at the end of a day at Norwich | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
one could have hoped to have seen a visual spectacle of this kind of proportion. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
We've seen utterly marvellous things throughout the day, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
but these have really taken us to a new height of splendour, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
and I think the mere idea of trying to value them | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
-really is a complete vulgarity, and I think we'll just leave that alone. -Well, they're priceless to us. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
And irreplaceable. Simply close the box and let them go back again. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
Thank you so much. Brilliant. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
I know that inside a case that looks like this | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
is usually a case that looks something like that, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
and, indeed, there is, and a particularly nice one, at that. Can you tell me something about this? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
I can only tell you that I found it in a sewing box, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
but I was particularly interested because it had the picture of Norwich Cathedral on it. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:28 | |
-That's a pretty rare feature. -Yes. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
And this is of course a visiting-card case. Let's just get rid of that. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
Beautifully engraved there, and all the rest of this is engine-turned. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
Opening it up, we see the hallmark. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
It was made in Birmingham in 1852... | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
-Oh, right. -..by Nathaniel Mills, who's the most famous maker | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
of snuff boxes, vinaigrettes, card cases. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
-Oh, really? -And this, of course, is a lady's card case, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
because this is the size of a lady's visiting card... | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
and this is the size of a gentleman's visiting card. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
Rather more insignificant - I don't quite know why, but that's how it used to be. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Yes. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
-Well, it was really quite a lucky find. -Really? | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
-Mm. -I nearly didn't bring it. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
Well, I'm glad you did. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
These card cases are very collectable, and the more unusual | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
the subject the more desirable and valuable, dare I say... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
-Yes, yes. -..the card case is. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
In this case, if you manage to get two collectors competing to buy this, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
-I think it could fetch anything up to £2,000. -Really? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Well, my idea is to sell it | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
and give the money to the cathedral campaign. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
I think that would be a very good idea. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
I think I might let the cathedral try and sell it. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
-That's definitely secured your place in Heaven. -Oh, good. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
Two rather badly damaged pieces of porcelain. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
I'm going to start off with a valuation. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
I know that's not the usual way. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
The valuation is that they are practically worthless. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
-I'm not surprised. -But that's not why we're looking at them. -No. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
-You tell me. -Well, my father picked them up during the war, when he was in Hiroshima. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:23 | |
They went to pick survivors and prisoners of war up. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
He went into Hiroshima and picked these pots up | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
just outside Hiroshima, about six miles out of the centre. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
-What was your father doing there? -He was in the medical corps, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
-and that was his job in the Army. -Did he talk about what he saw? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
Not at all. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
-It must have affected him. -I think it did, yes. It did affect him. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
He hardly went out of Norfolk once he got home, so that did affect him, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
but he didn't ever talk about what he saw. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
He used to have these pots and show them to people, but... | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
-And when he showed them to people, did he explain, did he say anything? -Not really, no. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
-Very little. -He may not have said anything about these pieces, but he clearly treasured them. -Oh, yes. Yes. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:12 | |
And they were obviously regarded as deeply significant objects. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
Yes, I think. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
For me, looking at something like this | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
sums up the whole business of why we make the show we make. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
Because objects in themselves are not necessarily valuable or of interest, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:32 | |
but it's the stories that they can tell, and your father may not have spoken about Hiroshima, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:38 | |
but these bowls do. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
-And you say that he picked them up six miles outside the centre. -Six miles outside. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
I as a ceramic historian know a bit about the technology of ceramics, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
and I know that to fire a glaze onto a piece of porcelain | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
you have to take the kiln temperature up to 1,300 centigrade or more. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
This little bowl, which was a very modest piece of Japanese | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
porcelain, made probably in the 1930s and decorated with its usual swing and flair, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
was glazed at around that temperature, 1,300 degrees, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
and then, of course, a few years later, when the bomb was exploded over Hiroshima, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:20 | |
this went through a second firing. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
That's how hot it got. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
-Mmm. -The temperature, even six miles outside Hiroshima, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
went up to 1,300 degrees centigrade and over, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
and that's why you have these globules of glaze as the thing began to run for the second time. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:42 | |
And that's very eloquent. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
That's far more eloquent than somebody telling you this is what happens when an atomic bomb goes off. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:53 | |
We're looking at a little piece of fossilised history, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
which, when you begin to look into it, tells you just how horrific | 0:41:58 | 0:42:04 | |
a nuclear bomb going off is. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
If we look at this sooted glaze, again, the same thing has happened. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
You can just make out a faded rose in the design there. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
This is fairly typical of a modest piece of Staffordshire pottery | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
that had been in this Japanese cupboard in the 1930s. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
Well, that is quite amazing. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
So, when you bring two ordinary, destroyed, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
frankly ugly little broken pots, they are worth nothing. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
But when we look into them, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
we can give you another valuation, which is that they are priceless. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
It's amazing they survived - a boat trip for Australia and then back. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
Well, there's no doubt we managed to uncover | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
some really remarkable objects and hear some extraordinary stories on our visits to East Anglia. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:03 | |
So special thanks to everyone who joined us. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
And now, from the cathedral in Norwich, goodbye. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 |