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Welcome back to Norwich for our second programme

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from the city's Anglican Cathedral, an 11th-century gem.

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And while our experts reassemble in the cloisters, I thought we'd have a peep inside.

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You'd expect a cathedral to have fabulous stained glass and lashings of religious art,

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and Norwich comes through on both those counts, but what is really special here isn't quite so obvious.

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For example, there's a collection of carvings that are so high up

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in this vaulted ceiling that you need a telescopic lens to see them.

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Luckily, we have one.

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The beautifully carved keystones or ceiling bosses are unique

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and are amongst the greatest hidden glories of Medieval art.

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Created by stonemasons between 1300 and 1515, there are more than a thousand of them.

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Some are inspired by stories from the Bible, others by scenes from medieval mystery plays.

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Among the less obvious symbols, this row of jagged teeth is supposed to represent the mouth of Hell.

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Three damned souls are guarded by a toad-like creature.

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More than 70 feet below those carvings,

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the tip-up seats of the choir stalls have these carved flaps.

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They're called misericords, from the Latin word for "mercy", and it's easy to see why,

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because they were to support frail and aged monks

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who had to be on their feet through eight hours of services a day.

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The stalls date from the 15th century so they've acquired a nice polish from ageing bottoms.

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The carvings include an extraordinary array

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of exotic creatures and some fairly enigmatic symbolism.

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A mermaid suckling a lion represents the seductive force of a temptress.

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This man riding a deer is thought to be the personification of lechery.

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Antlers are an ancient symbol of adultery.

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But there are everyday scenes too, which, like the ceiling bosses,

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offer an authentic view of life in those days.

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In 1996, to celebrate the cathedral's 900th birthday, the Dean and Chapter

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commissioned some new misericords which will give future visitors a glimpse of the way WE were.

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One of them shows hard-working students

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at the University of East Anglia, another has two of the heroes of Norwich City Football Club.

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Meanwhile, over in the cloisters, our experts have taken their pews for another Antiques Roadshow.

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This is a wonderful photograph of a very grand house somewhere.

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And I'm guessing there must be a relationship with these little creatures we've got here.

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-Tell me the story.

-It's the story of my grandparents' romance.

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That's my grandfather. He was the under-gardener.

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-And his name was?

-Ernest.

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Ernest Reeve. And Granny worked in the house at the back, and they always called her Nellie next door.

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And the people in the family here, they set up a romance between them.

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The lady of the house said, "Ernest we've got these lovely apples,

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"and Nellie next door comes from a large family - give some to her to take home."

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And he took them home for her.

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And anyway, they got married, and of course my mother came along, and the housemaid, who I gather was

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one of these two, bought that bunny for my mother on 29th January 1904.

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And you date it so precisely?

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-Well, she was four days old.

-Well, these little creatures,

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-they look as if they've got a story to tell. Do you like them?

-No.

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-Neither of them?

-No.

-Oh, shut its little ears up!

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They've always lived under the back bedroom bed in a pillowcase.

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Well, I'm just stroking this rather lovely velveteen coat of this little bunny.

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Do you think he was new in 1904?

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I'm convinced he was new. My grandmother wouldn't have anything second-hand in the house.

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-She didn't like it.

-Well, I don't think he was second-hand either,

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but he would have been really quite an expensive present.

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-It would take up the best part of a week's salary for a housemaid.

-Really?

-It would.

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-When she bought him, he would have had a little pair of slippers on.

-I remember those.

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-You do?

-My mother said he had a blue jacket, but I don't remember that.

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And do you know where he left his little blue jacket?

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-I don't know.

-In Mr McGregor's garden.

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-You think he's Peter Rabbit?

-He IS Peter Rabbit.

-He is a Peter Rabbit?

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-He is a Peter Rabbit, made by a German company called Steiff.

-Really?

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It was in fact Beatrix Potter who asked the Steiff factory to make

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-Peter Rabbit cuddly toys...

-Yes.

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..because they were the best company, she felt that they would

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best represent him in the most accurate ways. And who's his friend?

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Well, he's the teddy.

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He came later. My mother had measles quite badly when she was about four, and the lady of the house said,

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"Poor little Susan, she must have something nice" and sent him.

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Let's have a look and see if she bought a better-quality toy, and I actually don't think that she did.

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He is almost certainly German.

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He's made out of a nice silvery-coloured plush.

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You can just see where he's not too threadbare.

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What I think is particularly charming about him, though, is this wonderful

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kind of lopsided smile created by being cuddled against a cheek for decades.

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And so his little smile's got very lop-sided. No, he's charming.

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And boot-button eyes here.

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Value today...

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I think the little bear we'd be talking about perhaps £400.

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-Good heavens!

-But the bunny, I think, would be a little bit more than that.

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Even as he is, I think he's probably going to be around £500.

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In lovely condition with his jacket, he'd fetch many thousands,

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as much maybe as the world record of 20,000.

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No!

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So I think it's worth making the hunt for the missing pieces but I think...

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-That is amazing.

-It is amazing.

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But I also think what is so wonderful is that we've been able to pinpoint

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them, not just in a date line, but also in a family line.

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Yes! I think that's why I hang on to them, because they are sort of part of the family, really.

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It was given to my dad

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by his ex-boss, who remarried and moved to Malta.

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Yeah.

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-He said, "Yes, please" but gave it to me because he hated it.

-Hated it.

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And he gave it to me because we'd just bought our first caravan.

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And he said, "Would you like it for the caravan?"

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It bounces along in your caravan.

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-No, we never did put it into the caravan.

-No?

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I just put it in the cupboard and saw a programme on

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television one day, and somebody mentioned Clarice Cliff.

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And I thought, "I recognise that name," looked at the dinner service and thought, "Clarice Cliff,"

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and it's just sat there ever since.

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And have you been following Clarice Cliff ever since?

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Because there's her signature in the printed mark.

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Biarritz is the range, made at Royal Staffordshire,

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and then the number in there tells us it's 1933.

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Each one will have the date on it.

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You've got what, six...

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-plates of everything?

-Six of that one and the top two there, and then one of that, that and that.

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So you're getting on for 24 pieces in total.

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Well, this is actually quite an unusual pattern with this little inset landscape.

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I've not seen this pattern before.

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It's going to appeal to Clarice Cliff collectors.

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It's nice, jazzy, wonderfully rectangular, really '30s stuff.

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You're sitting on a dinner service that is probably going to cost you,

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if you buy it at auction, in the region of £1,500, maybe £2,500.

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Really?

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Lovely. Thank you!

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Never in the whole history of the world

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-has anybody ever achieved metalwork like the Japanese.

-Yes.

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They were staggeringly good,

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and they were good because they were a very warlike nation,

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they were always fighting each other,

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and for that you needed swords,

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-and with the swords came sword guards and scabbard furniture.

-Mm-hm.

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And it was from that, when they banned swords in the 1870s,

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-that the metalworkers turned to making objects for the West.

-Yes.

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-And that's what this is.

-Ah!

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How did you get it?

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-It belongs to my mother.

-Oh, yes.

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But it came from my grandmother.

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We believe they went on a cruise to the Far East and picked it up.

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That's all we know.

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Pre-war. Before the war.

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I'd be kind of hesitant about that story.

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This was made for the West...

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-Right.

-..in about 1890,

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so the question we have to ask ourselves is what was it still

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-doing in Japan when your grandmother took her cruise, which would have been probably the '30s, right?

-Yeah.

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-I don't think it's as late as that.

-Right.

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What it certainly is is a very charming box.

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It's made of...

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Oh! It's made of a very heavy cast metal,

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which has been patinated to this black colour.

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And the great joy about it is that nobody's cleaned it.

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People say, "Oh, black, must be silver, therefore it must need polishing." But nobody's done that.

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We've got a little bit of surface wear on here but it's not too bad.

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We've got silver snow on Mount Fuji up here.

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We've got an eagle perched on a very high relief rock,

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which is looking at its lunch down here.

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-Do you have an idea what that is?

-Well, I think it might be a fox.

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-Right.

-One would have expected a rabbit, or a hare, more likely.

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And then details in gold.

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We've got a praying mantis, a snail, a...

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Put the glasses on.

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A stag beetle, a crab, dragonfly and a bat, a batty bat! Erm, a hornet...

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I mean, it's just a joy.

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It's just a joy. I love it.

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And this would have sat probably on your grandmother's dressing table

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and taken a necklace or jewellery of some sort.

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Well, I love it.

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I think it's a wonderful thing.

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And presumably it's going to come to you one day, is it?

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Possibly, I've got a twin sister, though. We might have to share it.

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I think it's great fun. Erm, I think

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it needs an insurance figure on it

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of £1,800, £2,000 on it for insurance.

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-Fantastic.

-It's a nice thing.

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This is certainly to my memory one of the best pieces we've ever had on the Roadshow.

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It's a very fine English shotgun,

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but, unlike most English shotguns, it's barrels are over and under

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rather than side by side. Where did you get it from?

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Because it is so unusual for a gun of this period, from the 1770s.

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Well, I was given it by an old gentleman in the 1950s,

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-late 1950s, and I've had it ever since.

-Really?

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It's made by a chap called Bunny,

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who was based in both Birmingham and London and was one of the leading makers of the day.

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And it's unusual because even though it's an over-and-under configuration,

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both the barrels aren't actually fired by separate locks.

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It relies on one lock.

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And very cleverly, when one barrel has been fired, you just simply

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rotate it round to produce the other by pulling back on the trigger guard. Have you ever actually used it?

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Yes, I have, yes.

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What I can't quite get over is that you can actually prime

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the second barrel completely in the flash pan and turn it over, and it works perfectly.

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When you fire the first one, just draw it back to half-cock,

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pull it back full-cock, and you're ready to go.

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And that gave you a very, very quick second shot.

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And at the time that this was made, most sporting guns were

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single barrel and relatively long, and before 1787,

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with the invention of Knox patent breech,

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you needed that huge barrel to get the ballistics so that the powder burned.

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This relies on a very much shorter barrel because you

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can compress the two, and it's a really very, very manageable gun.

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-I don't think it's actually very much different from a modern clay-pigeon gun.

-No, it's lighter.

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Yes. And it's very, very typical in terms of decoration and style of the period,

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that lovely graceful dropped butt

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and this fine engraving on the lock plate

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and the side plate and also on the tank.

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I think that because it is so unusual, and I have wracked my brains

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to think of where I've seen any others... I think that there's one in the Royal Armouries,

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and I believe that there was one in a very significant private collection, but I don't think it was sold.

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And I think that a gun like this, of this period, of this quality, and it's absolutely exquisite quality,

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with this unusual configuration

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and mechanism is really going to set the British sporting shotgun collecting fraternity on fire,

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and I think anywhere between £10,000 to £15,000.

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-Well, thank you very much!

-Thank you for bringing it. It's absolutely wonderful.

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I shan't sell it!

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A few years ago, I fell in love, and I fell in love with a place

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called Venice, and Venice is where your pot came from.

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-Did you buy it there?

-No, we didn't.

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-My husband bought it from a shop in London because he liked the colours.

-Simply fell in love with it.

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-He just completely fell in love with the yellow and the blue.

-The colour of it IS splendid.

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If you just look at these wonderful greens, the blues, the yellow,

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the wonderful manganese on his hair, it's a splendid thing.

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And if you go to Venice, even today in the pharmacies,

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the farmacia as they are in Italian, they still have these wonderful drug jars.

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Do you have any idea how old it is?

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About 100 years old. 200 years old?

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-So would it surprise you if I said 300 years old?

-Yes.

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Well, that's exactly what it is. It's a 17th-century Venetian drug jar.

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Fantastic.

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And it's fabulous.

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It's unfortunate that the best side, in my opinion, is this wonderful...

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It's almost like a wonderful fabric, you can imagine some great Venetian

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noble with a magnificent robe, all these wonderful colours.

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It has, what we say in Newcastle, a ding on it.

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It's been hit there, and it's rather shattered.

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Fortunately, I suppose the face is still perfect.

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-But even like this, what do you think it might be worth?

-Well, he paid a few hundred pounds for it.

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He didn't actually tell me how many hundred pounds, because I think he was nervous to tell me at the time.

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Well, even with the damage it's going to be worth £2,000 to £2,500.

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Wow! Really?

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If it was perfect it would be £6,000 to £8,000.

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But even like this, even with this crack in it, £2,000 to £2,500. It's a splendid object.

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So I'm not to be cross with him any more that he bought it?

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-He deserves a big hug, I think!

-I think he does!

-Yep.

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This looks tantalising.

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I always like to see things wrapped up. Have you ever opened this?

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-No, I haven't.

-No?

-No.

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And it says on the upper cover "MS of the Iron Horse".

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I imagine that means "Manuscript of The Iron Horse".

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It's a novel by RM Ballantyne, 19th-century novelist.

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-My great-grandfather.

-Really?

-Yeah.

-The author of Coral Island...

-Yeah.

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-..was your great-grandfather?

-Yeah.

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So this has been in your family?

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This was left to me by my grandmother, his daughter,

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and there's two more that were left to my brother and my father.

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-Wonderful!

-And we've been clearing out my mum's attic and they've come to light.

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-Fantastic. Shall we open it?

-Yeah, go for it.

-Let's take the string off.

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Very worried about doing this, you see. That's why I've never done it.

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I'm hoping this is what I...

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It's going to be.

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Fabulously wrapped contemporary newspaper.

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And yes, I recognise this handwriting.

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This is certainly Ballantyne's hand, and I think this genuinely is

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the manuscript of the novel The Iron Horse.

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And from the look of it, I would have thought it's absolutely complete.

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I don't know how many pages we've got here.

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332.

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And it finishes with the words "The End, RMB Edinburgh 16th August 1871,"

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so yes, here we've got one complete manuscript by RM Ballantyne.

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This looks like another complete manuscript.

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The Lifeboat: A Tale by R M Ballantyne again with illustrations.

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This is rather longer, I would imagine this is 400, possibly 450 pages.

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Again it looks absolutely complete,

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which is tremendous - another complete novel in manuscript.

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-Do you think this is a third?

-I think so.

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-Fighting the Flames: a Tale of the London Fire Brigade".

-Yeah.

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He was a wonderful novelist, wasn't he? Very hands-on, very exciting.

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He always, as far as I understood it, worked doing the things he was then going to write about,

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so if he wrote about the fire brigade he'd have actually gone and done some work for the fire brigade.

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-And been a fireman.

-And the lifeboat, the same thing, and probably worked

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-on the trains doing that before he wrote the books.

-How fabulous.

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-So he was writing from experience as well as from...

-That's right.

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..the Boy's Own side of things, which is where he comes from.

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Well, even one of these would have been quite an exciting discovery,

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but for you to come along here and bring me three is really wonderful!

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And especially to unwrap one which hasn't been unwrapped, I imagine, for 50 to 100 years.

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-Is there a date on the paper?

-Yes. Let's have a look.

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-1889.

-Wow.

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-So it's been wrapped up since then. Isn't it tremendous?

-Fantastic, yes.

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As far as value goes, I mean, he wrote an enormous amount.

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You're probably aware he was a tremendous writer.

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I think he wrote 80 novels in his career, so he wrote at great speed.

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-Yeah.

-And there are examples of his manuscripts in collections

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across the world, but, obviously, there are only 80.

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-Yeah.

-So to have three is very nice.

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I would imagine at auction today these would fetch

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in the region of £2,000 to £3,000 each,

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-so we're looking at three together at quite a substantial sum.

-Yeah.

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And I think it's a very exciting literary discovery.

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Yes, it's working out what to do with them - to leave them to a museum or...

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-I don't know.

-I'm sure they'd be very happy if you did.

-Yeah, yeah. Fantastic.

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Thank you.

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When you and your friends pitched up with this earlier on, I thought,

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"If you haven't got to the wrong queue, you've probably got to the wrong venue."

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What were you doing here? Until I had a look.

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This is fascinating. What can you tell me about it?

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Well, my father gave it to me for Christmas 2001, a few years ago.

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I wondered what it was. I kept asking him questions - where did he get it from?

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And he bought it in an auction about 25 years ago in London, and he told me that it was

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by an artist called Marcel Duchamp, who I'd never heard of at the time.

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And I said, "What do you do with it?"

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and he showed my how to spin it,

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and it's actually a record, and he told me that it has Marinetti, a futurist poet,

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his poetry from his own voice on the record.

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I keep asking him to take it out and show me, but he's too scared that I'm going to drop it, so...

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What's unique about it, what I love about it, is it's an optical illusion.

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You can either see a red sphere in a black background or a white sphere in a red tunnel,

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and I love looking at it just constantly trying to change my eye between the two.

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I'm already feeling slightly spaced out.

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Yeah, I think that's what he wanted to...

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that's the image he wanted to convey to his audience.

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I love all his artwork and the way he deals with optics, and he created many moving machines.

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What we're dealing with here is the most exciting artist, as you yourself have perceived,

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of the 20th century, in many ways.

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Without Marcel Duchamp, we wouldn't have modern art as we know it and pop art and all sorts of other -isms

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that have come out of the early 20th century would not exist without him.

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Of course, he's the man who did the urinal, as well, as you know, and got away with it.

0:21:550:21:59

Put it in front of him, signed it and, yes, it was the Marcel Duchamp, the great seminal work of art.

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He was a very interesting, confrontational, edgy figure.

0:22:050:22:09

You have got part of the set - sadly you haven't got the other five

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or six that probably came with it, nor indeed do you have, or do we have, access to the back, so we can't

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work out whether or not it may be a greater original than just a reproduction of the set of six.

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However, on the basis that I think what it is IS what it is,

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it's worth about £2,000.

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Thank you very much.

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I didn't realise.

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Perhaps you ought to give it back to him now.

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-Yes! Thank you.

-You'll take that back on the bus now, will you?

-Yes.

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Don't drop it.

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Well, it's a fantastic portrait.

0:22:520:22:54

You don't often get terracotta which depicts character so well as we have here,

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and you've got a whole set of them, so tell me the story.

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Well, they belonged to a great-aunt, and that's all I can tell you.

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She lived in Hove, she never travelled,

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but she did have a gentleman friend who travelled.

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But I don't know where he went, what he did.

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OK. Well, obviously they have travelled, they have somehow made their way from India to Norwich.

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They are beautifully exotic little figures.

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I haven't seen terracotta figures of this calibre very many times,

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certainly not on the Roadshow,

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and they were made in India,

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obviously to cater for the Raj taste,

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for people who were probably reasonably high up in the Indian army

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as souvenirs of their time in India.

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And of course, many of them, so to speak, went native - they loved India so much that they wanted to

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stay there or they were homesick for India when they came back to Britain.

0:23:520:23:56

Terracotta is basically burnt earth - that's what the word means.

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And if we look underneath them

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we can see the natural colour of the clay here.

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It's that sort of sandy-type clay.

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It's a very difficult,

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brittle clay to work, and to make figures like this you really do need to reinforce them.

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And you can see here, peeping out at the bottom there are two pins, and these undoubtedly connect

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right through the legs, through the body, they form the armature of the modelling.

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So, you know, a lot of effort and thought has gone into these.

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These are not mass-produced, each one is an individual sculpture,

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which contrasts with all the porcelain figures we see on the show,

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because they, by and large, are press-moulded and mass-produced.

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I think these are absolutely charming, incredibly rare little terracotta figures.

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They're probably 100 years old.

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I would say that if you talk in terms of maybe £100, £200 apiece,

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so that takes us, if we go for the upper limit,

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that takes us to somewhere in the region of maybe £1,500, £1,800.

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Good gracious!

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Thank you.

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What do you think this is?

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My husband thought it was the top of a walking stick.

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The top of a walking stick? What do you think it's made of?

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I don't know. Horn? A horn of some kind?

0:25:150:25:18

You're right, it is a horn. That's absolutely spot-on.

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It looks a bit like plastic, doesn't it? But it is horn.

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This is actually inlaid in ivory, those pieces, and stained, and it's in the form of a cicada, I think.

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And it's Japanese,

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and it dates from probably in the middle of the 19th century.

0:25:350:25:39

-Oh.

-And those two holes are the clue as to what it is.

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It's actually a netsuke, which is worn at the waistband like that.

0:25:430:25:47

Right.

0:25:470:25:48

I think it's a very unusual and rare object.

0:25:480:25:52

I think you wouldn't have much trouble getting around £1,000 for it.

0:25:520:25:57

Good heavens!

0:25:570:25:59

-Good heavens!

-A bit of a shock?

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Well, it is. It's a big shock.

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Good!

0:26:030:26:05

-Thank you.

-I'll look at it with different eyes.

-Well done.

0:26:050:26:09

The minute I open something like this

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and I find I've got a row of no less than six

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golfing buttons, it sets the pulse racing for a few people.

0:26:160:26:21

Do you come from a golfing family?

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I don't. Not that I know, anyway.

0:26:230:26:25

-So you're not a golf widow or anything like that?

-No, no.

0:26:250:26:29

Well, they're printed on celluloid.

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It's a sort of an early form of plastic.

0:26:310:26:34

The fact that they're wearing the sort of costumes that we've got here

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dates them to probably around about 1910, maybe 1920.

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Golf collectors, they're there on an international scale these days, you know, so if you were to

0:26:430:26:50

put something like this up for auction,

0:26:500:26:53

-what do you reckon they'd be valued at?

-I've no idea.

0:26:530:26:57

-Do you want to have a stab?

-£100?

0:26:570:26:59

£100? Actually, if you could get these for 100 you'd be doing

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very nicely, because you wouldn't get them for less than £400.

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Really?

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-I wouldn't tell you a fib.

-No.

0:27:090:27:12

This is a copy of Black Beauty, which was one of my favourite books as a child.

0:27:120:27:16

Lovely story, too - Anna Sewell as a young child had an accident.

0:27:160:27:21

-I don't know whether you knew that. She sprained her ankles.

-Yes.

0:27:210:27:24

And so it meant that she was really quite confined in what she could do.

0:27:240:27:28

And she loved horses.

0:27:280:27:30

She wanted to write a book which

0:27:300:27:32

really set out the plight of reined horses,

0:27:320:27:36

she wanted to make sure people were much less cruel to them.

0:27:360:27:39

And we've got a copy here illustrated by Cecil Aldin.

0:27:390:27:42

-Have you had it for long?

-The book actually belongs to my mother.

0:27:420:27:45

I think she's had it for about 20 years or so.

0:27:450:27:47

She runs a big book fair in Norwich every summer, and I think it probably came through that.

0:27:470:27:52

I'll just turn into the book and see some of the illustrations, which are really beautiful.

0:27:520:27:57

I mean, Cecil Aldin

0:27:570:27:59

was really quite famous as an illustrator of animals. He had a tremendous feeling for horses.

0:27:590:28:04

Here we have Black Beauty as a foal with the mother,

0:28:040:28:07

which is a gorgeous image,

0:28:070:28:10

and propped up against my knees here is the original artwork.

0:28:100:28:14

How did you come by that?

0:28:140:28:17

Well, I work for Jarrolds,

0:28:170:28:19

which was a printer and publisher based in Norwich.

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And they published Black Beauty in the first edition and then commissioned these illustrations

0:28:230:28:30

from Cecil Aldin in 1912, and we've got most of the illustrations still,

0:28:300:28:35

and they've been kept sort of hidden away, really.

0:28:350:28:39

If we look at it, we can see his sympathy with the lines

0:28:390:28:43

of the horse, the way he highlights, and it looks...

0:28:430:28:46

You can see the beautiful shine on her coat, the mare,

0:28:460:28:50

and little Black Beauty has got all that velvetiness that you associate with young horses.

0:28:500:28:56

It is something which is actually quite valuable.

0:28:560:28:58

It's likely to be worth £3,000 or £4,000 at least, possibly more.

0:28:580:29:01

Goodness me!

0:29:010:29:03

Gosh!

0:29:030:29:05

-Does that surprise you?

-Yes, it does.

0:29:050:29:07

We've got 13 of the illustrations.

0:29:070:29:09

I think there were 18 originally.

0:29:090:29:11

-We've got 13 of them.

-So you can do the maths for me.

-Yes!

0:29:110:29:16

Wow! Gosh, yes.

0:29:160:29:17

I've got this dish.

0:29:170:29:19

-It belonged to my grandmother.

-Belonged to your grandmother. Right.

0:29:190:29:23

It was her ashtray, actually.

0:29:230:29:24

-Her ashtray?!

-Her ashtray, yes.

0:29:240:29:26

On her bedside cabinet.

0:29:260:29:28

Goodness me! What an amazing ashtray.

0:29:280:29:31

-Do you think that was what it was made for?

-I have no idea.

0:29:310:29:35

It's got a few stains on the back. Looks as if it might be some nicotine that has crept in there, but...

0:29:350:29:38

Yes, and it seems terribly uneven, and crude, almost.

0:29:380:29:41

Yes, remarkably crude, isn't it?

0:29:410:29:43

Yeah. So I suppose you thought it might just be a bit of old junk.

0:29:430:29:47

-Well, I hadn't really thought.

-You hadn't really thought.

0:29:470:29:50

-It was just a quirky item.

-Yeah. And did you notice this in the centre?

0:29:500:29:53

-It looks like an anchor.

-An anchor - that's exactly what it is.

0:29:530:29:58

It's the mark of the Chelsea factory.

0:29:580:30:00

-Chelsea.

-Chelsea, and Chelsea porcelain is amongst the earliest porcelains produced in this country.

0:30:000:30:06

-Is it?

-Indeed.

0:30:060:30:09

So its crudeness is really a symptom of its early date,

0:30:090:30:12

because it was made between 1749

0:30:120:30:16

and 1751 at Chelsea in London.

0:30:160:30:20

So I can just picture Granny sitting in a smoke-filled bedroom...

0:30:200:30:24

-Yes!

-..stubbing out her cigarette ends on this delightful little thing.

0:30:240:30:27

-How on earth did it get to be there?

-I really have no idea.

0:30:270:30:31

A mid-18th-century piece of porcelain, amongst the earliest pieces made in this country.

0:30:310:30:35

You've surprised me, really.

0:30:350:30:37

She was well travelled, the old lady, but...

0:30:370:30:39

She had a couple of shops in the London area, especially during the Blitz.

0:30:390:30:42

-Right.

-They were newsagent's shops and tobacconist's.

0:30:420:30:45

Maybe someone bartered her for it or paid a debt or she had a debt paid off something like this.

0:30:450:30:51

A newspaper bill or something, yeah.

0:30:510:30:53

It was copied by the Chelsea factory from a much

0:30:530:30:55

earlier piece of Japanese porcelain in what we call the Kakiemon style.

0:30:550:31:00

The piece that it copied would have dated from about 1680,

0:31:000:31:04

so although this is mid-18th-century, you could regard it as a fake.

0:31:040:31:09

But because it's Chelsea, because it's early, because it bears this rare early mark,

0:31:090:31:14

it's worth £1,000.

0:31:140:31:16

A thousand...

0:31:160:31:18

For an ashtray!

0:31:180:31:20

Granny's ashtray makes £1,000.

0:31:200:31:22

And as an interesting aside,

0:31:220:31:25

the 1680 Japanese original which this is copying would only be worth £200.

0:31:250:31:31

So it's a measure of how special and how rare this piece of porcelain is.

0:31:330:31:38

A thousand pound!

0:31:380:31:40

John, I feel we should be dancing around this.

0:31:450:31:47

-This is a television icon, like the tower at Alexandra Palace, like yourself.

-My dear!

0:31:470:31:52

-Remind us what it is.

-This is the Anglia Knight, which we all know so well,

0:31:520:31:56

but it fact it was made in 1850 for the King of the Netherlands.

0:31:560:32:01

He was a patron of the Falcon Society -

0:32:010:32:03

horse riding and falconry and that sort of thing.

0:32:030:32:05

He was so confident he was going to win his annual competition that he had this made in London.

0:32:050:32:10

700 ounces of silver to make this fantastic figure. And it was won by an Englishman.

0:32:100:32:15

He never saw it again - it stayed over here.

0:32:150:32:17

It stayed until 1959, when Anglia went on air for the first time, and they adopted it as their flagship.

0:32:170:32:23

And Garrards made that to go on top, and one or two little minor adjustments, like his visor going

0:32:230:32:29

up and down, and it's been their flagship ever since - a marvellous thing, absolutely wonderful thing.

0:32:290:32:34

I always thought it was about three inches high, like other things in television.

0:32:340:32:38

Not me again!

0:32:380:32:39

-Where's it kept now? Do you know?

-It's the East Anglia Archive Centre,

0:32:390:32:43

and there it, hopefully, will remain for many more to enjoy forever.

0:32:430:32:48

Well, these look like pieces of jewellery, but of course they've got

0:32:520:32:55

absolutely every element of a piece of Gothic architecture, haven't they?

0:32:550:32:58

And it's your job, I think, to look after them, isn't it?

0:32:580:33:00

It is, yes. I'm one of the vergers here at the Cathedral.

0:33:000:33:05

It's not my specific responsibility to look after silver, but I look after the vestments

0:33:050:33:11

and the linens of the Cathedral,

0:33:110:33:14

and these two pieces we refer to as "the Bishop's bling".

0:33:140:33:18

Well!

0:33:180:33:20

They're wonderful things, they're the morses or clasps

0:33:200:33:23

which are used to hold together the front

0:33:230:33:27

of the Bishop's and the Dean's copes for festal occasions.

0:33:270:33:31

They're fantastically sculptural, and I think that this one

0:33:310:33:34

was made for a very special occasion indeed, wasn't it?

0:33:340:33:37

It was, yes, it was designed by Sir Ninian Comper for the coronation

0:33:370:33:44

of King Edward VII in 1902

0:33:440:33:47

and worn with the cope and the mitre by Bishop Sheepshanks.

0:33:470:33:53

And the thing about the coronation, or, more specifically the

0:33:530:33:57

-anointing, is that very few people know that that's actually a sacrament, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:33:570:34:02

And so this was a piece of jewellery of monumental scale

0:34:020:34:07

to mark a moment of monumental sanctity, really, isn't it?

0:34:070:34:11

-And I think in the back there's a certain amount of evidence for that.

-There is, yes.

0:34:110:34:15

Behind the panel in the very centre is a relic of chrism oil

0:34:150:34:21

used to anoint the head

0:34:210:34:23

of the King at the coronation, and there's an inscription around there marking that.

0:34:230:34:29

It's a sacrament because the King or the Queen is seen as a priestly office

0:34:290:34:35

and chrism is the oil used to anoint priests at their ordination.

0:34:350:34:40

Well, that really is the centre of this piece of jewellery,

0:34:400:34:43

but I think the visual centre's jolly hard to find,

0:34:430:34:46

because it's a hugely decorated and colourful piece of metalwork of the highest possible calibre, isn't it?

0:34:460:34:53

And Ninian Comper is a church furnisher and a designer.

0:34:530:34:56

His work goes well into the 20th century, working around and about East Anglia, and I suppose,

0:34:560:35:01

really, it's always been my point of view that jewellery represented

0:35:010:35:06

a sort of microcosm, a distillation of everything that's going on in the fine and decorative arts.

0:35:060:35:11

-This is a distillation, but my goodness, it's a powerful brew!

-Yes.

0:35:110:35:15

And what an awesome responsibility for you to have to look after it.

0:35:150:35:18

-Well, it is, yes.

-And I think the use of the stones are rather

0:35:180:35:22

interesting, too. Any green stone is a sort of emblem of hope, but, more specifically, we can see that

0:35:220:35:29

amethysts have been used in profusion here, and they're pretty important, aren't they, in church lore.

0:35:290:35:35

-Do you know their significance?

-I don't, no.

0:35:350:35:38

They're an emblem of devotion, and amongst them there are sapphires

0:35:380:35:41

and rubies and garnets,

0:35:410:35:44

and the garnet too may be a sort of tiny, covert reference to the Communion.

0:35:440:35:50

But anyway, they're almost hypnotic and I think that's a word one really can use for them.

0:35:500:35:55

Well, this was only part of the extraordinary spectacle

0:35:550:35:59

at the coronation of King Edward VII in 1902,

0:35:590:36:03

in which jewellery had a huge part,

0:36:030:36:05

and it was worn by the peeresses - they wore tiaras in their hair and their coronets behind.

0:36:050:36:10

But, in a way, the rank and the status of people

0:36:100:36:13

was endorsed throughout, and here are the Spiritual Lords making it

0:36:130:36:18

absolutely plain that they were very, very important people indeed.

0:36:180:36:22

And very, very important people indeed wear enormous jewels,

0:36:220:36:26

and the scale of this one hanging below is quite astonishing.

0:36:260:36:29

I think at the time that it was made it was described as a topaz. People really believed it was.

0:36:290:36:33

Actually, now we know a little bit more about gemology and know that

0:36:330:36:36

this is actually a rock crystal, a cairngorm.

0:36:360:36:40

Goodness, I honestly don't think that at the end of a day at Norwich

0:36:400:36:43

one could have hoped to have seen a visual spectacle of this kind of proportion.

0:36:430:36:47

We've seen utterly marvellous things throughout the day,

0:36:470:36:49

but these have really taken us to a new height of splendour,

0:36:490:36:53

and I think the mere idea of trying to value them

0:36:530:36:56

-really is a complete vulgarity, and I think we'll just leave that alone.

-Well, they're priceless to us.

0:36:560:37:01

And irreplaceable. Simply close the box and let them go back again.

0:37:010:37:05

Thank you so much. Brilliant.

0:37:050:37:07

I know that inside a case that looks like this

0:37:090:37:12

is usually a case that looks something like that,

0:37:120:37:15

and, indeed, there is, and a particularly nice one, at that. Can you tell me something about this?

0:37:150:37:19

I can only tell you that I found it in a sewing box,

0:37:190:37:22

but I was particularly interested because it had the picture of Norwich Cathedral on it.

0:37:220:37:28

-That's a pretty rare feature.

-Yes.

0:37:280:37:30

And this is of course a visiting-card case. Let's just get rid of that.

0:37:300:37:34

Beautifully engraved there, and all the rest of this is engine-turned.

0:37:370:37:41

Opening it up, we see the hallmark.

0:37:410:37:44

It was made in Birmingham in 1852...

0:37:440:37:48

-Oh, right.

-..by Nathaniel Mills, who's the most famous maker

0:37:480:37:52

of snuff boxes, vinaigrettes, card cases.

0:37:520:37:56

-Oh, really?

-And this, of course, is a lady's card case,

0:37:560:38:00

because this is the size of a lady's visiting card...

0:38:000:38:03

and this is the size of a gentleman's visiting card.

0:38:030:38:07

Rather more insignificant - I don't quite know why, but that's how it used to be.

0:38:070:38:11

Yes.

0:38:110:38:12

-Well, it was really quite a lucky find.

-Really?

0:38:140:38:16

-Mm.

-I nearly didn't bring it.

0:38:160:38:19

Well, I'm glad you did.

0:38:190:38:21

These card cases are very collectable, and the more unusual

0:38:210:38:24

the subject the more desirable and valuable, dare I say...

0:38:240:38:28

-Yes, yes.

-..the card case is.

0:38:280:38:31

In this case, if you manage to get two collectors competing to buy this,

0:38:310:38:36

-I think it could fetch anything up to £2,000.

-Really?

0:38:360:38:40

Well, my idea is to sell it

0:38:400:38:43

and give the money to the cathedral campaign.

0:38:430:38:47

I think that would be a very good idea.

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I think I might let the cathedral try and sell it.

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-That's definitely secured your place in Heaven.

-Oh, good.

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Two rather badly damaged pieces of porcelain.

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I'm going to start off with a valuation.

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I know that's not the usual way.

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The valuation is that they are practically worthless.

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-I'm not surprised.

-But that's not why we're looking at them.

-No.

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-You tell me.

-Well, my father picked them up during the war, when he was in Hiroshima.

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They went to pick survivors and prisoners of war up.

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He went into Hiroshima and picked these pots up

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just outside Hiroshima, about six miles out of the centre.

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-What was your father doing there?

-He was in the medical corps,

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-and that was his job in the Army.

-Did he talk about what he saw?

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Not at all.

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-It must have affected him.

-I think it did, yes. It did affect him.

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He hardly went out of Norfolk once he got home, so that did affect him,

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but he didn't ever talk about what he saw.

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He used to have these pots and show them to people, but...

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-And when he showed them to people, did he explain, did he say anything?

-Not really, no.

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-Very little.

-He may not have said anything about these pieces, but he clearly treasured them.

-Oh, yes. Yes.

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And they were obviously regarded as deeply significant objects.

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Yes, I think.

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For me, looking at something like this

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sums up the whole business of why we make the show we make.

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Because objects in themselves are not necessarily valuable or of interest,

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but it's the stories that they can tell, and your father may not have spoken about Hiroshima,

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but these bowls do.

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-And you say that he picked them up six miles outside the centre.

-Six miles outside.

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I as a ceramic historian know a bit about the technology of ceramics,

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and I know that to fire a glaze onto a piece of porcelain

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you have to take the kiln temperature up to 1,300 centigrade or more.

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This little bowl, which was a very modest piece of Japanese

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porcelain, made probably in the 1930s and decorated with its usual swing and flair,

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was glazed at around that temperature, 1,300 degrees,

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and then, of course, a few years later, when the bomb was exploded over Hiroshima,

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this went through a second firing.

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That's how hot it got.

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-Mmm.

-The temperature, even six miles outside Hiroshima,

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went up to 1,300 degrees centigrade and over,

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and that's why you have these globules of glaze as the thing began to run for the second time.

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And that's very eloquent.

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That's far more eloquent than somebody telling you this is what happens when an atomic bomb goes off.

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We're looking at a little piece of fossilised history,

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which, when you begin to look into it, tells you just how horrific

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a nuclear bomb going off is.

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If we look at this sooted glaze, again, the same thing has happened.

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You can just make out a faded rose in the design there.

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This is fairly typical of a modest piece of Staffordshire pottery

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that had been in this Japanese cupboard in the 1930s.

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Well, that is quite amazing.

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So, when you bring two ordinary, destroyed,

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frankly ugly little broken pots, they are worth nothing.

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But when we look into them,

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we can give you another valuation, which is that they are priceless.

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It's amazing they survived - a boat trip for Australia and then back.

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Well, there's no doubt we managed to uncover

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some really remarkable objects and hear some extraordinary stories on our visits to East Anglia.

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So special thanks to everyone who joined us.

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And now, from the cathedral in Norwich, goodbye.

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