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In its mission to visit all points of the compass, the Roadshow has arrived for the first time at the

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UK's most westerly port, a position that more than once has placed the

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walled city of Londonderry at the very heart of historic events.

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During the Battle of the Atlantic, the longest campaign of World War II, more than 20,000 Royal Navy

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personnel were stationed here, but these shores

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haven't always offered a warm welcome to the weary sailor.

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In 1588, ships of the Spanish Armada, limping home from defeat

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in the English Channel, were driven way off course by storms.

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One ship, La Trinidad Valencera was grounded on a reef at Kinnagoe Bay,

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30 miles from the city of Derry, and broke up.

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Ironically it was bad weather that resurrected the vessel.

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400 years later on a miserable February day in 1971 the City of Derry Sub-aqua Club

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were forced by conditions to do their diving a lot closer to the shore than usual.

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The first clue to the lost ship was a bronze cannon, but the divers soon

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realised that the wreckage was spread over a huge area.

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Over the next number of years, club members, with the help of

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the Ulster Museum, catalogued and conserved each fragment they found.

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In every war, each side considers its cause to be just, and both Protestant England

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and Catholic Spain believed they fought in the name of God.

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Before going into battle, Spaniards were given a certificate absolving them of their sins.

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They were also given a holy medallion and this one was found on the sea-bed at Kinnagoe Bay.

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You won't find a finer set of city walls in Europe - they date back to the early 1600s and they've been

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through several sieges without ever being breached, that's why Derry is called "The Maiden City".

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Our venue today is tucked neatly inside the walls. The Millennium Forum is a state-of-the-art theatre.

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It's been adapted to accommodate the special needs of the Antiques Roadshow.

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Well, we're sort of dressed for a cream tea - we've got the jam and

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cream dish and we have a nice little teapot.

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Tell me, where does this teapot come from?

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It was a wedding present to my grandparents, and it's Belleek but it's very unusual.

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They haven't got a record of that teapot in the Belleek factory.

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And Belleek, of course, is an incredibly, and rightly celebrated,

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Irish factory based in County Fermanagh.

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If we take the lid off to have a look at the mark underneath, there it is,

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there's the mark, the dog, the harp and the tower, it says "Belleek"

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and it says "County Fermanagh, Ireland".

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Now, that mark immediately tells me what period of Belleek this belongs to.

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This particular mark doesn't come in until the very end of the 1880s...

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-Does that square with your own family record?

-Yes.

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My grandparents were married in 1896 so that would fit in.

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So this was a wedding present in 1896?

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Yes, yes.

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You happen to have brought along one of my favourite teapot models of all time.

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Look at that shape. First of all you've got a pentagonal shape.

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How often do you see a teapot with five sides?

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And each of the sides is conceived as a bundle of bamboo, with these notches overlapping

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and they've even gone into that delicious detail of the severed ends of each of these rods of bamboo.

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You can see the pith - they've actually taken the trouble to

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model the pith that you would see on bamboo.

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And then you have a bamboo spout and you have a nice bamboo stem for the handle.

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Now this is not a Belleek invention, that may be why it doesn't appear in the pattern books.

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Royal Worcester produced this shape, in this very material, this Parian body,

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back in the 1880s and Belleek took a lot of designs, almost copied them straight off, from Royal Worcester.

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So you could say, "Hang on, that's a Royal Worcester shape." But no, it goes further back than that.

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If you go back into the 18th century, back to around the 1760s-1770s,

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this shape was being produced by Josiah Wedgwood.

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-But it doesn't stop there.

-Really?

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If you go back another 60 years to China, and to a part of China called Yixing,

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that's where we find the original pentagonal bamboo teapot.

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-Bamboo teapot.

-And there it's made in a red stoneware but it's exactly the same and it's come through...

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-That's very interesting.

-..That hop, skip and a jump, over the water to Ireland, to Belleek.

-Oh, right.

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So how much would it cost to lay something like this out for tea?

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Well, your little Victorian coloured glass jam-and-cream set on its electro-plated stand would probably

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cost you in the region of £100, £150.

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The teapot... I would expect if you were to sell a piece like this to a

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collector of Belleek, and let's remember that

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Belleek collectors aren't merely in Ireland, but also in England and, more to the point, in America.

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A rarity like this would probably cost them at least £1,000.

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For that teapot?

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Oh, my goodness.

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One lump or two?

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Oh!

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That's... For that simple teapot? I can't...

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I cannot believe that.

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Thank you very much indeed. That's...that's amazing.

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So now, you inherited this from your great aunt?

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-That's right, yes.

-How did she come by it?

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Well, she'd always collected a lot of paintings and all sorts of stuff, I mean from my going to

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the house there was always, there was lot of bits and pieces in it,

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but this one here was one that she particularly liked herself and I always liked too, and when she did

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get, um, you know, iller, when she became older, she had to move into a small flat and this is one

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of the few things she kept from, you know, all her belongings, so she had a great fondness for this and...

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And, rather poignantly, this is about, about an ill child, isn't it?

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Yes, yes.

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Well, I must say it's really lovely to see this, not least because it's by a very interesting artist.

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Caroline Paterson, who painted this, is the sister of the famous watercolourist, Helen Allingham.

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Now Allingham is known for her cottages and her flowers. She did them with exquisite detail,

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and in this case you can see that her sister has obviously

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got a bit of that genetic skill. But, of course, the thing that really strikes one about this picture

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is the subject matter, because we're dealing with the passing of a life in the form of a child,

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the pale face indicates to me something pretty chronic, don't you?

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-I would say so.

-It suggests to me that he may well be suffering from

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-consumption, from tuberculosis, quite a killer at the period.

-Yes.

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-There he is, wrapped up, his face pointed downwards. His sister, I imagine.

-Yes.

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..Looking rather poignantly at him, almost as if she knows.

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That's strange because it's so sort of pretty-looking, then when

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you start to look into it, it's actually quite dark.

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-It is, isn't it?

-Yes.

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It, it's...it's real life, but there is a sinister element,

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and, of course, that aspect is underlined by the symbolism in the

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picture as well, because the beautifully delineated clock

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-indicates time, the passing of time.

-Yes.

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A memento mori, used for hundreds of years as a device just to remind people they're not here for ever.

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-Yes.

-And then the flowers dropping on the ground. Again, the passing of spring and summer. Spring -

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that's a tragically short season...

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A wonderful image of imparting the notion of death of a child.

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I must say, it's very moving.

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-It is.

-And it's moving because it's done by an artist who has this skill with detail.

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-Yes.

-Who knows how to impart on a literal and a poetic level.

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If the subject matter were a little bit more

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-upbeat, it might be worth more.

-Yes.

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But it's still worth about £4,000.

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Really? Goodness, that's... Thank you very much, that's very nice to know.

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"Soft, pliant spirits who can playful stoop...

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"..To purchase, capture from the rolling hoop,

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-"Who watch the sleeping top with keen delight and gaze with transport on the graceful kite."

-Yes.

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-Isn't that lovely?

-Yes, it's lovely.

-Oh, so romantic, isn't it?

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It's the most fantastic three pictures I have ever ever seen, you must be so proud of them.

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-Yes, I am.

-Shall we just look at the back?

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-Because you've got an inscription there which is very difficult to read.

-Yes, yes.

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-It says, "This was designed and cut by Martha Dorothea Bennett."

-Yes.

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"Castle Crea in County Limerick".

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-Yes.

-And, "In the year 1817 or 1812"...

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So, they're not quite sure.

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-Tell me about them.

-Well, I had a Miss Eileen Bennett living with us for a few years.

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-Yes.

-And, er, she knew that I done handiwork

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and, was very interested perhaps.

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-Yes.

-So one day she come in and she said to me, "Would you like those pictures, because when I die...",

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she said, "..I don't know where they'll go."

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-So she give me those.

-So she was called Bennett.

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She was called Bennett, she'll be ancestor, that'll be her ancestors that's on this.

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Well, what in fact we are looking at is someone who's cut out the oval piece of paper and put it down,

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they've pinned it all the way round and then with a very, very fine razor they have cut every single little

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branch, flower, all the way round this charming watercolour

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and what's so lovely is that's also a watercolour,

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a little harp.

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-Yes.

-And I think this is a very romantic mother and daughter scene, ladies

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embracing. This possibly is an older daughter with her mother and I'd like to think that is what it is.

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If you think about the intricacy - candlelight, 1812. They used, if they could, a magnifying glass

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-and I should think it really hurt the eyes too.

-It sure did.

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-What a lot of patience.

-Yes.

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And love.

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-They are incredibly rare.

-Are they?

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And it is very difficult to put a price on them.

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I would say that if these three went up for auction,

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I can see them making something as much as £2,000 to £3,000.

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Well, they'll not be sold.

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-Good.

-No way.

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I agree with you, because that something that you're given, you can't sell, can you?

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No. What did you say again?

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-You've forgotten already? Forget it, forget it.

-Forget it.

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For this sort of furniture, this is a belter, but I must say,

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I just imagine... Did you have trouble getting this in, on the top of your car?

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No, actually your people came and brought it in here, so they did.

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Well, that's a great relief. I was just wondering what it must have looked like.

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Do your friends like it?

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They do.

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They don't think, "What on earth is that great monster?"

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They don't tell me, anyway.

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-They don't go out of the house thinking...!

-Maybe.

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The angle of this is that at no time before the 1880s

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was there such a combination piece of furniture design.

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This is of that period and it lasted till about 1910, just before

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the First World War, so this is of the period and there were two styles.

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One was this, which is the Sheraton revival, the other was Chippendale, which is all carved.

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They both had mirrors in the backs, they had shelves, they had columns,

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we had cupboards, we had doors with glass in, everything is in this combination piece.

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This is rosewood, it's decorated with satinwood, it has beech, it has ivorine, the one thing about these

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pieces is that they are now rare in their entirety because in the 1950s

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and '60s, you couldn't sell them - nobody wanted these great pieces, so they used to take the top off here...

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Right? ..You could fill the holes in and this would go over a mantelpiece

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-and this part would be the other side of the room as a sideboard.

-Right.

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Now then, they got split up because Auntie Edie had the mirror and

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Uncle George had the sideboard and they were never the two seen again together.

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Now, when you get one that's original, it's not a rarity but it is a more unusual thing to see, OK?

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-Right.

-So that puts great added value, historical value to it, and of course you have a genuine antique.

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-Mm.

-Now, it's been moved recently.

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-It has.

-It has. OK, tell me the story.

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At the start of this year, it was moved - my aunt and

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her husband gave it to me and my husband as a present.

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-OK.

-So they did,

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and that was just at the start of the year.

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OK.

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-So where had they had it stored before?

-There was no heating.

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-Ah.

-There was no central heating.

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-OK.

-So there wasn't.

-And you've got central heating?

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But I kept the heating off in the room it was in.

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OK, but it has, it has been moved and I'll tell you why.

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You can see the top, that panel on the left-hand side.

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-Right.

-It's bevelled, it's done that, hasn't it?

-Mm.

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That's because it's veneered onto pine and mahogany,

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and not very thick sheets, so you've got a one-sided sandwich.

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You know, like the vicar's sandwiches, that all sort of curled up,

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and that's what's happening.

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Now you needn't remedy that, but you want to prevent the rest of it going that way, otherwise this is all going

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to pop out, you know, there will be little bits flying all over the place because ivorine, boxwood, satinwood,

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are all different timbers and materials which react to the heat

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-at a different rate, to the rosewood and the pine and the mahogany.

-Right.

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So you need to keep in the room, just keep a bowl of water either end underneath.

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Right.

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That will just add enough humidity to ease it into its new situation.

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If you get any popping out, if you get any damage, don't do anything with it

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for at least a year, because it needs to settle in its new home, OK?

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-Right.

-It will settle and it will be repairable.

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Now, the rest of it is purely that it is of its type.

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It is as good as you'll see, it has everything on it that it should have and it would have been made in one of

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the leading furniture manufacturers of that period and between 1885 and 1910, and it's worth today,

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a market that is rising,

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-because of the fact that it's altogether, round about £2,500 to £3,000.

-Very good.

-All right?

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-Lovely, OK. Thank you.

-Thank you.

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I'm assuming that you're both a couple of collectors, is that right?

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Well, car boots I'd say more, collectors...

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We buy at car boot sales, markets and some auctions but mostly markets and car boot sales and that.

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OK, because I go to car booting, you know, but I'm a solo booter.

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-Yeah.

-Because I like to whizz down the tables, how do you, how do you play it between the two of you?

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Well, he be my, he be my apprentice. He's been in training, you know?

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-Oh, yes.

-We be up early on a Sunday morning and generally make a day of it, till about one or two o'clock.

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Do you always use your proper names? Because some people don't, you know.

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Well, he has a name...

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Just kind of picked it up...

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-He calls me Fagin.

-Fagin?

-Yes.

-Well, then.

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-He calls me Dodger.

-Dodger!

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-And we even have a dog, we even have a dog called Bullseye.

-No!

-Yeah, he was a stray, so he was.

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Now hang on, your mother's not called Nancy, is she?

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-No.

-OK, let's get that one sorted, but, um, let's have a look at the,

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er, the box of goodies. What have you got for starters?

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The first one's...

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Yeah, well I always raise a smile when I see this, this character, because I used to have an office in,

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in London and my office window used to look out onto the man who

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actually drew this, his house was directly across the road, his name was Bruce Bairnsfather.

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It says: "Well, if you knows of a better 'ole, go to it."

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He brings humour into what was really a terrible scenario in the First World War and often on the back

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they're marked by Grimwades and there's this lovely little line saying,

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"Made by the girls of Staffordshire when the boys were away fighting in the trenches."

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So, car boot. Got a crack. How much did that cost you?

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Well, in euros about ten euros, so that was about five quid, I'd say sterling.

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About five pound, when you say euros, you're buying these in the south?

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-Dublin, we're from.

-You're from Dublin?

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Yeah, from Dublin, yeah.

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-Yeah.

-OK, so you came all the way from Dublin?

-Oh, yeah. Well it's not much. We spent two, over two hours.

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Well, obviously the condition affects it and I mean for £5 though, you can't go wrong.

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-Oh, no.

-I mean you could treble your money, OK.

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Not a huge amount. If it was perfect, £40 or £50, no problem.

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-Yes.

-OK, what else have we got?

-I have this here.

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Very nice, I like that. When you bought it, I mean, what did you think it was?

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I was there late, I was there about half nine, there was two or three fellas having a conversation.

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Well, they were talking. I was just interested enough to not talk and just buy it.

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-Oh, right.

-So I bought it, I was reasonably sure that it was a Victorian dog trough.

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I gave him 15 euros, I don't know only about £8 sterling or something,

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I don't know where it was made, I don't know the potters and that.

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Let's have a look because there's nothing, there's no real marks. It's impressed new stone,

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which is a form of stone china, so transfer-printed, yep.

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-Made in Staffordshire, um, date-wise about 1835, 1845.

-Well, I heard they were rare.

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It is rare because, you know, by definition, you know a dog bowl like this, or a dog trough as they're

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often referred to, they suffer the ravages of time what with, especially...

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It depends on the size of your dog.

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Anyway it's got a little bit of damage, I notice, but there are plenty of collectors out there

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would be very happy to give you the best part of £100 for that, OK?

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So, things are getting better. What else have we got?

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This is one of the ugliest pieces of silver plate

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I've seen on any Roadshow. Where on earth did you get it from?

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Well, actually it was a friend of mine that came from England

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and he brought it with him and he came along to me and said, "Would you like this?"

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and I looked at it and I...I had my own impression,

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but I said, "I don't mind", so obviously he had a price against it and I bought it.

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-You did?

-We've never had it on display within the house, we keep it in the corner.

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-I'm not surprised.

-My friend would agree with you!

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And what did you have to give for it?

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-I had to give £50.

-£50?

-Yes.

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-Well.

-That wasn't too bad, was it?

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-It's got quite an Indian influence to it.

-Yes.

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With these ivory-tusk handles and this lid, which is really bizarre,

0:20:480:20:53

looks a bit like a pith helmet, but with a feather on top.

0:20:530:20:56

Reminiscent of the raj. But the most interesting

0:20:560:21:00

thing about this piece is the maker's mark on the bottom.

0:21:000:21:04

-Right.

-The mark "H & H"

0:21:040:21:06

is for the firm of Hukin and Heath.

0:21:060:21:08

Now, they were most famous for producing articles for Dr Christopher Dresser,

0:21:080:21:16

who was a very well-known designer from the 1880s.

0:21:160:21:20

And that's about the date this piece was made.

0:21:200:21:24

It's a really wonderful example of Victorian kitsch.

0:21:240:21:26

The good news is though, even something as rather weird as this...

0:21:280:21:34

-Yes.

-..There's a market for.

-Oh, good.

0:21:340:21:37

And I wouldn't be surprised if somebody paid £300 or £400 for it.

0:21:370:21:42

Mm, well that's an interesting seeing I only paid £50 for it.

0:21:420:21:46

-Well, you've done very well. Thank you very much.

-Not at all, delighted to be here.

0:21:460:21:50

So tell me all about this.

0:21:510:21:53

Just move those up a little bit.

0:21:530:21:55

Let's get comfortable over here.

0:21:550:21:58

OK. Let's just pop it there.

0:22:000:22:02

Can I say... Car boot sale again, Sunday morning.

0:22:020:22:05

-Were you with your dad at the time?

-He was, yes.

0:22:050:22:08

-Did you, did you want your dad to buy this?

-Yes, I did.

-You did?

-Yes.

0:22:080:22:10

Did you fancy playing with it yourself?

0:22:100:22:13

No, I wouldn't play with it, because it looked old when I was looking at it,

0:22:130:22:16

because it was in an old condition and I think it was just used for a model, used for modelling.

0:22:160:22:22

I think you may well be right there in some respects.

0:22:220:22:25

Um, it says on here...

0:22:250:22:28

"Uncle Wiggily's Crazy Car", um, and what's this...? "Copyright",

0:22:280:22:35

and we've got there "Howard Garis".

0:22:350:22:39

Now, he's the man who invented Uncle Wiggily.

0:22:390:22:43

He was invented in the early part of the 20th century for the Newark News in America, just outside New York.

0:22:430:22:53

Mention Uncle Wiggily to any American over the age of 60 and they'll know

0:22:530:22:57

exactly who you're talking about, but over here he's a bit of a rarity, bit of a rarity.

0:22:570:23:03

Now I notice on the back, just above that tie there...

0:23:030:23:07

-Germany.

-Germany, so I am pretty well convinced that your car

0:23:070:23:12

was made by a firm called Distler, and they were known for making these tin-plate toys.

0:23:120:23:19

-What date would it have been made?

-This, I would suggest, is around about 1925.

-'25, that's nice.

0:23:190:23:25

Mm, so it's quite a... quite an ancient vehicle.

0:23:250:23:28

-The point is, it's all down to condition when it comes to the value of something like this.

-Yes, yes.

0:23:280:23:33

However, having said all that, it obviously begs the question

0:23:330:23:37

as to exactly how much did you end up paying for

0:23:370:23:40

Uncle Wiggily's Crazy Car?

0:23:400:23:43

Well, um, I paid 40 euros, be about...a little less than £20 sterling, that's what I paid for it.

0:23:430:23:50

But I... I just had a feeling about it, that's all, so I just couldn't leave it there, you know?

0:23:500:23:54

Yes, you couldn't. You had to take it home with you.

0:23:540:23:57

It was a good instinct, I think there's every chance

0:23:570:24:00

that if this came up for auction, that the bidding would be somewhere between £800 and possibly £1,000.

0:24:000:24:08

-Sterling?

-Sterling.

-That's very good.

-And that's the good news.

0:24:080:24:13

-Yes.

-The bad news, which is not really relevant, is that if

0:24:140:24:18

it had been in perfect condition, one of these was sold in London not so very long ago for £4,000.

0:24:180:24:24

Wow.

0:24:240:24:26

-So it, it's worth getting up in the mornings, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:24:260:24:31

If you can find treasure like this.

0:24:310:24:33

When I was evacuated to Somerset during the war, one of the highlights was

0:24:340:24:38

the arrival of the American troops who were stationed there for a while before they were taken off to D-Day.

0:24:380:24:43

They got to Northern Ireland quite a while before they got to Somerset

0:24:430:24:47

though, as this week's collector, David Fitzsimmons will bear witness.

0:24:470:24:50

David, you weren't around at the time, so why are you so interested in the Yanks?

0:24:500:24:54

Well, about ten years ago

0:24:540:24:57

I heard me Uncle Gerald and my father talking about an

0:24:570:25:01

American soldier that used to come to my grandmother's during the war

0:25:010:25:04

and they knew he was killed in the war but they didn't actually know what actually happened

0:25:040:25:09

to the man, where he ended up, or one thing and another, and I thought, "I'll look into this."

0:25:090:25:14

I happened to be searching on the website one day and I come up with this site "World War II Search",

0:25:140:25:21

and I put in his details and up he come, Iris L Bradshaw, the plot, the row and his grave.

0:25:210:25:27

He's buried in Laurent-Sur-Mer in France and I sent the details over to my Uncle Jim

0:25:270:25:33

in England and he was delighted - he actually then went over to visit the

0:25:330:25:36

-grave and you can see the picture of the grave, there.

-So this is it?

0:25:360:25:39

-Yes, this is it, there, yes.

-And where was that?

0:25:390:25:42

That's in Laurent-Sur-Mer... That's near Omaha Beach, there.

0:25:420:25:46

That's amazing to be able to follow and find out not only what happened to the man but where he rests.

0:25:460:25:52

Why were so many of the troops stationed here in Derry?

0:25:520:25:56

Derry was the first European port that the US Navy had actually got.

0:25:560:26:01

This was the closest, they accounted the first European port and they needed a deep-water port,

0:26:010:26:06

so they dredged the place, they dredged that port down there,

0:26:060:26:10

but they were actually neutral when they did it, so they knew then

0:26:100:26:12

they were going to have plans, they would be here some day.

0:26:120:26:15

It was quite a thing, wasn't it, the families would kind of adopt the troops?

0:26:150:26:19

Well, there was a lot of young soldiers

0:26:190:26:21

between the ages of 18 and 22, and they were a long way from home, literally 3,000 miles, and they

0:26:210:26:26

couldn't get no leave to get back home, not like the British soldiers,

0:26:260:26:32

so the COs of the different units said at that time,

0:26:320:26:35

"Would you please adopt a soldier, you know, take him into your family and share your home with him?"

0:26:350:26:41

The girls found them attractive, hence the GI brides, got evidence of that?

0:26:410:26:46

Well, yes, as you can see here...

0:26:460:26:48

This is a young local girl and she's by the name of Phoebe Ford,

0:26:480:26:53

and she met this fellow here, he's called Ellis Hench and he's from Alabama

0:26:530:27:00

and he was in the tanks, he met this young local girl and they married,

0:27:000:27:05

so they did, and she's now, now this man has passed on,

0:27:050:27:09

so he has, but this lady's still alive and she's 80-odd and she's still living in Alabama.

0:27:090:27:14

-And he survived the war?

-And he survived the war. There's another picture there, taken in the '70s.

0:27:140:27:20

See them wee things will tell a story, just like I got a phone call one night from a lady in Derby,

0:27:200:27:26

she was going to marry an American soldier

0:27:260:27:28

and she regretted not marrying him before he left here.

0:27:280:27:32

She never found out, he'd actually wrote letters when he left here,

0:27:320:27:36

they were going to get married, but she never actually found out until her mother died

0:27:360:27:40

that he'd sent letters to her mother but the mother wouldn't let her see them.

0:27:400:27:44

-Like a movie script, isn't it?

-It's sad.

0:27:440:27:46

These are extraordinary insights into that time. Why do you think your collection is important?

0:27:460:27:52

Well, I think there's an emotional side to it all. I believe every piece tells a story

0:27:520:27:58

and I believe these young men, they were only 18-20, average age, like, and they come

0:27:580:28:03

an awful long way to fight for our freedom, 3,000 mile, and a lot of them didn't get home.

0:28:030:28:09

And I would say to the people, especially older people that took

0:28:090:28:14

an American soldier into their home, the Lord bless you for that,

0:28:140:28:18

because that's the last piece of home them young lads would have received,

0:28:180:28:23

because a lot of them, as you can see, went out there and they didn't come home.

0:28:230:28:27

They ended up dead. So I think it's worth it to preserve that,

0:28:270:28:30

you know, because they did come a long way for our freedom.

0:28:300:28:32

This is very attractive silk binding you've got on here.

0:28:350:28:40

-Everything she had, had lovely things.

-Who is she?

0:28:400:28:43

My great aunt. I mean folders of paintings that her mother had done, beautifully bound.

0:28:430:28:50

-Was she a traveller?

-Yes, very much so.

0:28:500:28:52

-Where did she go, do you know?

-She was born in Tasmania.

0:28:520:28:55

-Gosh.

-And, er... It's a very long story.

0:28:550:28:59

-I can't possibly tell you, but I'm writing the history of it.

-Oh, wonderful.

0:28:590:29:02

Yes, and then she married an Irishman eventually, and had

0:29:020:29:07

a home in County Tyrone at The Argory which is now National Trust.

0:29:070:29:11

We've got here an inscription on this album which says, "Rice drawings collected in Cheltenham, 1833."

0:29:110:29:21

-Mm, they were bought in Cheltenham.

-They were bought in Cheltenham.

0:29:210:29:24

They would have been not very old at the time, 1820s maybe,

0:29:240:29:30

but they were almost new when they were bought.

0:29:300:29:34

This is called rice paper.

0:29:350:29:37

I don't know where the word came from, I suppose it looks like cooked rice

0:29:370:29:42

or something and people imagine it's made from rice, it's not,

0:29:420:29:45

it's pith and the pith comes from a tree

0:29:450:29:49

which largely grew in Formosa

0:29:490:29:51

and it was then imported into Canton as paper and then these were painted

0:29:510:29:58

in Canton, and I mean, it's a huge industry, and

0:29:580:30:02

they did them from the 18th century right through into the 20th century.

0:30:020:30:07

What paint did they use?

0:30:070:30:09

It's actually what we would call gouache - watercolour with body colour -

0:30:090:30:14

and that would give you a greater depth and a strength.

0:30:140:30:19

But the colours are so vibrant and zinging at you.

0:30:190:30:22

I mean, this is...

0:30:220:30:25

170 years old and it's absolutely...

0:30:250:30:29

as fresh as...

0:30:290:30:31

And they've been in the folder and the light has

0:30:310:30:34

-been absent.

-That's it, exactly.

0:30:340:30:36

So we've got a basket of flowers, a traditional Chinese subject there, and another one, which is

0:30:360:30:42

wonderful - that is just magic, that.

0:30:420:30:47

The colours are extraordinary, aren't they?

0:30:510:30:54

They are. Oh, isn't that wonderful?

0:30:540:30:56

-You could eat that!

-God, that's good!

-Very tempting.

0:30:560:31:00

"The nutmeg in the shell, 1832." Oh, so we've gone back a year from the early one anyway.

0:31:000:31:07

-Yes.

-So that's what a nutmeg looks like. And a tree-frog.

0:31:070:31:10

No, it is that way, isn't it?

0:31:170:31:18

Because they're hanging down, gourds. Cucumbery-type things hanging down there and butterflies.

0:31:180:31:24

This is fantastic.

0:31:240:31:26

A live, a live butterfly.

0:31:260:31:28

Do you have a favourite?

0:31:290:31:30

I think, yes, these last two. Not so much those ones, but this, I think.

0:31:300:31:36

It's wonderful, isn't it?

0:31:360:31:38

Gorgeous.

0:31:380:31:39

Well, I think you've actually got a really quite expensive album here,

0:31:390:31:45

because, A, the quality is so good, B, the condition is perfect,

0:31:450:31:50

C, you've got very good subject matter,

0:31:500:31:53

you haven't got people having their heads chopped off

0:31:530:31:56

and hands chopped off, which they did rather a lot.

0:31:560:31:59

-I know, I know.

-Um, botanical things are always popular,

0:31:590:32:01

butterflies are always popular.

0:32:010:32:04

I think we're looking at somewhere around...

0:32:040:32:08

£2,000-£2,500.

0:32:090:32:11

I had no idea, but I've always thought they were wonderful.

0:32:120:32:15

-You were right. Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:32:150:32:19

Do you know what this is made of?

0:32:190:32:21

No, I haven't a notion at all.

0:32:210:32:23

Can't believe it, the intricacy of it. Do you know it is human hair?

0:32:230:32:28

It is human hair.

0:32:310:32:33

It is with little tiny beads.

0:32:330:32:36

It's a pin cushion.

0:32:370:32:38

It's dated 1812.

0:32:380:32:41

That is just so unusual.

0:32:410:32:44

I've never seen one all of human hair - what a lot of work! Are you a seamstress yourself?

0:32:440:32:49

-No, I'm not.

-I would...

0:32:490:32:51

It's difficult to put a price on it.

0:32:510:32:52

I suppose it could be worth £300, it could be worth £3. It's really a question of who would want it.

0:32:520:32:58

So where did you get this fellow from then?

0:32:580:33:01

I got it about 18 months ago at an auction.

0:33:010:33:04

-How much did you pay for it?

-£30.

-£30! £30! Look at that.

0:33:040:33:10

I was...

0:33:100:33:11

It was an early-morning auction and I was still suffering from the night before.

0:33:110:33:16

So, were you in need of a wheelchair particularly or, or, what was the plan?

0:33:160:33:20

Plan, twofold.

0:33:200:33:22

-Yes.

-One, it would get me back from the pub on a Saturday night.

0:33:220:33:27

-Oh, yes.

-My wife would always would have transport for me.

0:33:270:33:30

Save the taxi.

0:33:300:33:32

-Thank you, yes, yes.

-Yes.

-And secondly perhaps, you know, it may be useful.

-Advancing years.

-Yes.

0:33:320:33:37

Well, I'll tell you, you want to be really careful on this chap, see all these little holes here?

0:33:370:33:42

That's the hungry woodworm. I mean, lose a bit of weight

0:33:420:33:45

before you depend on this for your method of transportation.

0:33:450:33:49

The other thing that I think is interesting is it's cheaply made of beech,

0:33:490:33:51

because suddenly in 1914, you needed not one or two of these, but several hundred thousand of these fellows.

0:33:510:34:02

And every long ward on a First World War hospital - and they converted lots of country houses for these

0:34:020:34:08

gassed chaps to escape to - had one of these at the end of the bed and the poor military patient

0:34:080:34:16

would have been wheeled outside and stuck out in the fresh air with the traditional blanket over him,

0:34:160:34:21

and that's why we've got this plaque here, see?

0:34:210:34:24

"E & R Garrould, Hospital Furnishers, London W." See that?

0:34:240:34:30

-Yes.

-That's because those people supplied top end

0:34:300:34:32

of half a million of these things to the Red Cross and the St John's and off they went to the hospital.

0:34:320:34:38

Lightweight, very easy to use.

0:34:380:34:41

Do you know something? I think this is £30 very well spent.

0:34:410:34:45

You know, just occasionally, I see a piece of furniture and you think...double-take.

0:34:490:34:56

It's not a very good expression but you stop and look again because there is something extra about it

0:34:560:35:03

and this table has that quality, so tell me the family history.

0:35:030:35:08

I assume family history because it looks like it's come from the family.

0:35:080:35:11

-Um, well no, actually, it was bought at a local auction.

-Really?

0:35:110:35:16

About 17, 18 years ago. We had it about three or four years

0:35:160:35:22

and a gentleman came in and was admiring it

0:35:220:35:26

and we turned it over, and there was a maker's stamp on it.

0:35:260:35:31

-It is stamped?

-It is stamped, yes.

0:35:310:35:33

Let's have a look. Who's it by? Let's roll it forward and then just tip it back.

0:35:330:35:38

-Well, it's by...

-Straight on the floor is fine. OK.

0:35:380:35:42

-Where is it?

-It's here.

0:35:420:35:44

Oh, there.

0:35:440:35:46

-T Seddon.

-T Seddon, whoever he was.

0:35:470:35:51

Seddon was the great family of furniture makers from the 18th century

0:35:510:35:56

but this isn't 18th century, so Mr T Seddon...

0:35:560:36:00

-Well, I did look it up on the internet.

-Ah! And?

0:36:000:36:03

And I found Seddon, but then there's so many T Seddons.

0:36:030:36:08

It seemed everybody... every generation seemed to have a Thomas Seddon,

0:36:080:36:13

so I gave up. I got totally confused.

0:36:130:36:17

Well, what we have to do is to establish a T Seddon,

0:36:170:36:20

and looking at the date of the table, from its design,

0:36:200:36:25

we can, it has to be 1870 or 1860, it's that sort of period.

0:36:250:36:31

And that would have been a grandson of George Seddon.

0:36:310:36:34

-Right.

-We know where he was working and we know that he worked for a company in London

0:36:340:36:39

and we know that some of Seddon's work, T Seddon's work, went into the exhibition of 1862.

0:36:390:36:45

The first tables you'll see like this were just prior to a man called Pugin.

0:36:450:36:49

It was a late-Regency design and it came in in the 1810-1815 period,

0:36:490:36:56

and lasted through to the Houses of Parliament.

0:36:560:36:59

And here you've got a host of different timbers,

0:36:590:37:02

all of which, when this was new, would have been bright colours.

0:37:020:37:06

This is a type of burr, it's almost, it's a sycamore,

0:37:060:37:10

but it has a particular cut to it. This would have been bright green, it was dyed with oxide of iron.

0:37:100:37:16

-Oh.

-This is purple heart, this would have been a deep purple.

0:37:160:37:21

Oh, it must have been fabulous once.

0:37:210:37:23

Well, yes, but it's lovely now.

0:37:230:37:25

This is a type of partridge wood here, which has this wonderful cross-grain.

0:37:250:37:31

Again, vibrant colours. Blacks and whites when new. Fabulous.

0:37:310:37:36

-Right.

-And how much did you pay for it?

0:37:360:37:38

I think it was about £460, £470.

0:37:380:37:42

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:37:420:37:44

Do you think it's worth that?

0:37:440:37:46

-Oh, yes.

-Good.

0:37:460:37:48

I think if you were to insure it, up it a little bit...

0:37:480:37:51

to...

0:37:510:37:52

..Probably £12,000.

0:37:530:37:55

12,000?!

0:37:570:37:59

You're joking.

0:37:590:38:00

-Aye, you are joking.

-No.

0:38:010:38:03

It's wonderful, it's wonderful.

0:38:030:38:06

I wonder were there two of them there that day?!

0:38:060:38:09

It's just a joy to see and a very important piece of furniture.

0:38:090:38:14

SHE MOUTHS

0:38:140:38:16

-12,000.

-God.

0:38:160:38:18

I understand that you are the dean of one of the two cathedrals, St Columbs in Londonderry.

0:38:210:38:27

Yes, that's right.

0:38:270:38:29

Um, what actually made you decide to bring these along today?

0:38:290:38:33

They've been in the keeping of the cathedral for a few centuries now,

0:38:330:38:37

and in fact these pieces, the collecting plates and

0:38:370:38:41

the flagons, they come from the collection of one of the bishops.

0:38:410:38:45

-Right.

-Going right back to the 1680s, a man called Bishop Ezekiel Hopkins.

0:38:450:38:51

OK, because I notice that they've...

0:38:510:38:53

All of these pieces have an inscription on them.

0:38:530:38:56

-Yes, they've got his name on.

-On this one it says...

0:38:560:38:59

"The gift of Ezekiel, Lord Bishop of Derry,

0:39:000:39:05

"to the Cathedral Church of Derry, 1683."

0:39:050:39:10

That's right, the year they were given to the cathedral.

0:39:100:39:13

Right, well, if I tell you that these are

0:39:130:39:17

probably the finest bits of silver I have ever seen on an Antiques Roadshow

0:39:170:39:22

you can understand that I'm getting a bit excited about this.

0:39:220:39:27

-Sure.

-This is the stuff dreams are made of, for us.

-Really?

0:39:270:39:30

They are truly truly great rarities.

0:39:300:39:34

-Are they?

-Yeah, and the great thing about this is its colour.

0:39:340:39:39

-It's got a glorious dark grey colour, this is absolutely typical of the period it was made.

-Right, yes.

0:39:390:39:48

And this is a Communion flagon, for the Communion wine and it was made

0:39:480:39:54

in 1655, a lot earlier than the inscription.

0:39:540:39:59

-Right.

-..In Dublin.

0:39:590:40:01

Now, if this was an English-made flagon,

0:40:010:40:05

it wouldn't be worth anything like what it is as an Irish one.

0:40:050:40:09

It has this very wide flared base that's absolutely typical

0:40:090:40:13

-of flagons made in the Commonwealth period, the mid-17th century.

-Yes.

0:40:130:40:20

We have another one over there, and I've noticed,

0:40:200:40:25

looking at the makers, that they are actually by two different makers but made in the same year.

0:40:250:40:32

-Yes.

-Both 1655.

0:40:320:40:34

I have to tell you that the records of Irish silver at that date

0:40:350:40:41

are so thin on the ground that I can't actually tell you who the makers are. Right.

0:40:410:40:47

But they have got a lovely set of marks stamped around the side here.

0:40:470:40:51

Oh, yes.

0:40:510:40:53

-And we also have a pair of alms dishes here.

-Yes.

0:40:540:40:59

-These are actually made in London in 1674.

-Right.

0:40:590:41:05

What I have to ask you is, are these used on a regular basis or...?

0:41:050:41:10

Yes, oh, they are. Yes, they're used week by week.

0:41:100:41:13

-All these...all these pieces are.

-All these pieces?

0:41:130:41:16

But they're kept under very tight security in the cathedral, they're well and securely locked away.

0:41:160:41:22

Well, I was just going to say to you that

0:41:220:41:25

-something as special as these really should only be used on special occasions.

-Right.

0:41:250:41:33

And...because these are so early, these flagons, and because they are Irish,

0:41:330:41:41

I have to tell you that this group on the table here

0:41:410:41:46

is worth in excess of £100,000.

0:41:460:41:49

-Are they really?

-Yes, yes.

0:41:490:41:53

These are so rare, they are so wonderful, they're in such lovely condition, they really are.

0:41:530:42:00

-Absolutely amazing.

-They are just so fine,

0:42:000:42:03

so rare it's been a total and utter privilege and excitement for me to see these today.

0:42:030:42:10

-Well, thank you very much.

-Thank you.

-It's good to talk with you.

0:42:100:42:13

It's always interesting to follow up items that appear on the Roadshow and this painting, or the original,

0:42:140:42:20

is a Roadshow veteran. Where and when was this?

0:42:200:42:23

Well, in 1999 I brought the original of this painting to the Roadshow in Coleraine

0:42:230:42:28

and it was valued between £60,000 and £80,000.

0:42:280:42:31

That was in 1999, what's happened to it since?

0:42:310:42:34

Well, since that, because of the value of it, we now show it,

0:42:340:42:37

-it belongs to St Columb's cathedral and we now show it in the National Gallery in Dublin.

-Perfect home.

0:42:370:42:41

-Yes.

-Did you bring anything today?

0:42:410:42:43

We did, we brought some silver.

0:42:430:42:46

-Nice result?

-Oh, yes.

0:42:460:42:48

But the great thing is, of course, that we'll now be able to follow up

0:42:480:42:50

on our next visit to Northern Ireland, the things that we've seen today in Derry.

0:42:500:42:54

So, until that time, from Derry, goodbye.

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