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Any director of period drama

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worth his salt will inevitably find his way to where we've come today.

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This part of Somerset is Oscar-winning territory.

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Roadshow Productions proudly presents Montacute House.

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The Oscar was a result of a visit here in the summer of 1995

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of a distinguished cast and crew to shoot some of the final scenes for Jane Austen's Sense And Sensibility.

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OK, here's the storyline - the disillusioned Dashwood sisters have just arrived from London.

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Their lack of fortune has sealed their fate, rather like the original residents here, the Phelips family,

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who down on their luck sold all the family silver before leaving for ever in 1911, but I digress.

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The Dashwoods have arrived from London.

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Marianne immediately goes in search of her beloved Willoughby.

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She crosses the east court into the open countryside which surrounds Montacute's 25 acres of grounds.

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Cue Eleanor, played by Emma Thompson, to observe anxiously from the library.

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This was the ideal vantage point for the director to film Marianne's progress.

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When Marianne doesn't return, there's a great deal of floor pacing,

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mostly here in the Great Hall, which it has to be said is perfect for pacing,

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as our sound man will agree.

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It all ends with a collective sigh of relief when Colonel Brandon bursts through the door

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with a dripping Marianne in his arms.

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Tissues all round, roll the credits.

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Even Montacute village got in on the Sense And Sensibility action, stealing a scene or two.

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Today, another epic drama of treasures lost and found.

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Lights, camera, cue the experts.

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What are the marks? Did you nick it from the library?!

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That's a very good question, I think we'll start there.

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They're beacons of horror. Where did they come from?

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-It's obviously a library.

-It's from Czech Republic.

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-Czech Republic?

-Czech Republic Library.

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What was it doing in the Czech Public Library?

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-It belongs to my sister, she got it like a gift from my mum's friend.

-Yes.

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And he was a teacher in a college and they had a, you know, library or whatever.

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-I think he got it from there.

-That's a jolly nice gift.

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Here we are, it's Observations On The Theory And Practice Of Landscape Gardening by Humphrey Repton.

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Now this book, I mean, the Landscape Gardening is a fabulous book,

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but it has to be one of the biggest pieces of advertising,

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most expensive pieces of advertising that anybody in 1803 could possibly do.

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-Oh, wow.

-It's just quite incredible.

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Humphrey Repton was a man who designed parklands for the rich and famous,

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and he used to do things called Red Books,

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which he actually wrote out what he was going to do, a sort of a proposal,

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and they were all full of watercolours and all that sort of thing,

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but then, because he was so popular, he decided to publish this,

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and this is very exciting, it's a wonderful book because...

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Let's have a look at Plate One, and what we've got here is Wentworth in Yorkshire.

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Here is a view of a little quarry and people quarrying things out there.

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There's a rather nice tower there, and this is how he proposes that he's going to make it.

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We take that off there, he's made the quarry into a rather nice sort of open parkland.

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Here are the deer, and there are the coach and horses going along there.

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They're absolutely wonderful, glorious plates.

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Here we are, West Wycombe in Buckinghamshire.

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What I'd have thought was a perfectly nice lake...

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but Humphrey can do much better than that.

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Make a way so that you can actually see to the house there,

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which means cutting all that down

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and I assume making the lake a little bit bigger.

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It's wonderful. Put that back.

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Last but by no means least, we come to this magnificent beast.

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A general view of Bayham.

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-Now that's a perfectly ordinary view really, isn't it?

-It is.

-It is?

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But it is absolutely remarkable, the way he transforms Bayham.

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-There we are.

-Lovely, isn't it?

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Lake, castle...

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He did everything and, of course, this is all...

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They didn't have diggers apart from hand diggers. There were no machines.

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-You say it's not yours, that it's your sister's.

-It's my sister's.

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Let's have a look at the binding.

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Binding, the binding's certainly not contemporary.

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I would have thought late 19th century, and it is coming out of its binding, too.

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-Yeah, it is.

-So it's got quite a lot of repair that needs to happen to it.

-All right.

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It's such a funny thing to find on the continent, really. It's a very English book.

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-It is very English.

-Very English book.

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If it was in fabulous condition, let's go for that one first,

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that's the good news, or rather it's the bad news,

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-because I would say that in really super condition this would be worth £5,000.

-Right.

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The bad news is that I suspect that in the condition it's in, probably £2,500 would be more like it.

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That's good, anyway!

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Well, a tremendous glaze, a wonderful glaze on a straightforward jug,

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but there's something special about the jug.

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And it's the handle.

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Now you tell me about this.

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It spent many years in an Antwerp flat of my husband's grandparents.

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-Yes.

-And all I know is that whenever Grandpa came down the stairs and passed it,

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he couldn't resist stroking it.

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He couldn't resist stroking it. Well, you can see that, can't you?

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It is a beautifully-sculpted figure.

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-It's unusual to see something as well-sculpted like this on a straightforward jug after all.

-Yes.

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-Now you can date this piece actually by the figure.

-Oh.

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Because our notions of beauty change over time, so what is the perfect female ideal in the 1960s, Twiggy,

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-is not the perfect female ideal around the year 1900.

-Yes.

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When in fact the fuller figure was thought to be more fetching

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and not only that, but her hair-do, this classic chignon,

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the way her hair is sort of brought up at the back into the chignon,

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That is absolutely typical of the Art Nouveau period.

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The Art Nouveau basically is a fantastic movement.

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It emerges through the late 19th century,

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it's essentially inspired by Japanese design.

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But at its heart is sex, organic growth.

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I think you feel all of these things at work in this jug. You can see...

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Are these butterfly wings or are they petals?

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-Flower, leaves.

-Leaves, leaves coming out.

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So the whole notion of growth, and she's looking into it, tip-toe.

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Even her toes have been picked out

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-with a tiny, tiny bit of colour there.

-Yes, yes.

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Now this is the mark of a Hungarian factory in Budapest called Zsolnay,

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one of the best potteries producing Art Nouveau pottery in that period.

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Absolutely stunning, beautiful thing.

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Well, you're going to have to insure it. I guess

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if you insure that for somewhere in the region of...

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let's say, £2,500.

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Really? Gosh!

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Better not drop it, had we?

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Four and 20 ponies trotting through the dark

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Brandy for the parson Baccy for the clerk

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Laces for a lady Letters for a spy...

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And lace! Here we are in the centre of the lace-making industry.

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Honiton is very close by, and we're surrounded by Honiton lace.

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And Honiton lace, as well as all other sorts of lace

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-in the 18th and 19th centuries was incredibly desirable, wasn't it?

-It was, yes.

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-Much more valuable than jewellery.

-And that was because of the time?

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The time, yes. Approximately 10 hours for a square inch.

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-For example, we have a wedding veil at the museum which cost £84 in 1868.

-My goodness.

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And that was an average man's annual salary then.

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So the question is, would you pay an average man's annual salary now for a wedding veil?

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-I don't think so.

-Unlikely, I have to say.

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The thing that I suppose most people will know is that Queen Victoria used Honiton...

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-Yes, she did.

-..to make the lace for her wedding veil.

-Yes, she did.

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But up until then, was Honiton really looked at as a prize lace-making area?

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Yes, it was, but maybe not quite as much as Brussels, but yes, it was,

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and the motifs that we make are much more realistic to nature.

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Yes, if one looks at some of these wonderful motifs, there are roses...

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On this piece here, we've got a lovely horse chestnut leaf

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which fits so beautifully into the corners.

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On the lappet over here, we've got a little mermaid down at the end and so on.

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The actual way that the lace is made...

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-It was made in a cottage-industry system.

-Yes, it was.

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You'd have somebody who was a specialist in horse chestnut leaves

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who'd do nothing but those.

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-That's right.

-And then what happened?

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The chief lady, she would gather it all together

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and you would go in and say, "I would like a handkerchief."

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She would look at her motifs and you'd say, "I like those on the corner,"

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and it would be assembled for you.

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-It was the putting together that was the real skill?

-Yes.

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And when one looks at something like this,

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-which is obviously a hand-made net.

-Yes, it is.

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At some point that was mechanised, wasn't it?

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Yes. In about 1820, Heathcoat came to Tiverton,

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and he came and watched the lace-makers and he soon had a net-making machine.

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Of course the industry went right down from practically everybody having hand-made net,

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£5 maybe a square yard,

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to 5p - I mean, it was, like, nothing.

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So, that must have absolutely collapsed the industry.

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It did. It was the end of earning your living, be it a poor living,

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but it carried on and carried on and of course it's a hobby today, and I've been teaching for 32 years.

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Amazing. And the future of lace?

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Do you think there is a future?

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I hope there is, but we've got to work hard at making sure.

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It's been made in Honiton for over 400 years and we're not about to let it stop.

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Well, it came from a friend who, um, I've known for many years.

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-OK.

-I didn't know he had it.

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Yeah, does he know what it is?

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-No, he hadn't the faintest idea and none of his friends have.

-Right.

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-None whatsoever.

-So he sent you down as his ambassador.

-Yeah.

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We love quirky and unusually-shaped objects on the Roadshow.

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In a sense, you know, there's a connection between this

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and this very magnificent wristwatch you've got.

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-Oh.

-This is a time-keeping device.

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I'm keeping a bit hush because my colleague on the clock section of the Roadshow saw this

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and came rushing over, and I said, "No, I'm doing that."

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-Ah.

-It's basically a whale oil lamp, spout lamp.

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It was almost certainly made in the Low Countries, probably Dutch, circa 1800.

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It all happened at the top here in this wonderful glass cistern.

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So this is where you would put your whale oil, possibly a fish oil,

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and of course you had to know how quickly the oil was going to burn

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because down the side of the reservoir,

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in a strip of pewter, is marked the hours.

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And of course you would have a wick protruding,

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and the wick would burn away,

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so it gave you light and time-keeping at the same time.

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Oh, I understand, yeah.

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So, where did your friend get it from? It's an unusual thing...

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Well, between him and his wife and relations and all that,

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they moved all house and things,

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-and some of the stuff all got put into the loft where he is now.

-OK.

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And then some years ago they started sorting through it, and found that.

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Yeah. Believe it or not, these are quite rare because obviously a lot did get thrown away.

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I'm sure they weren't very good time keepers.

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They probably made a hell of a stink as far as the actual lamp was concerned.

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-Probably did.

-Fish oil.

-Yeah!

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-And because of that, they're quite scarce.

-Yeah.

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Well, you know you'll have to sort of

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go back to your friend rather sort of steadily

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because it's worth at auction between £600 and £1,000.

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-I'm sure he'll be very pleased.

-Excellent.

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What appears to be two fabulous bits of very early furniture, right?

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One of them is 1920.

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The other one is earlier. Now which do you think it is?!

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-I would think this must be the 1920 one, then.

-Yeah.

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Why do you think that?

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Because the drawers inside were glued, they weren't dove-tailed.

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-OK.

-It didn't look like it was properly made by a carpenter.

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-OK, the drawers in this one?

-Yes.

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A-ha! This looks very fresh, doesn't it?

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-Yeah.

-Very fresh.

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Quite right. This is glued, this is glued.

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-That looks like quite an old thing.

-OK.

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Well, we'd better start telling you what to look for.

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We'll start with this one.

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It's an inlaid front with geometric style in the continental manner.

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Here you've got a panel which shows architecture with different-coloured stained woods,

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and as early as the 16th century they were staining sycamore

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with oxide of iron to make it bright green.

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This would have been the most wonderful colours, and time has mellowed it.

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But the thing about old furniture -

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GOOD old furniture was made very precisely.

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It was made with great finesse, it was never ever crudely made,

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otherwise it wouldn't have lasted this long.

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Let's come back to where we were and now we look again inside.

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Here you've got the most wonderful clean look, as I said earlier, but why shouldn't it be?

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It's a candle box.

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This was done with extreme care.

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I mean, this is actually chipped out of this oak,

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which is very hard and geometrically inlaid - very difficult.

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So in fact,

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the newer it looks,

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-the more old it's likely to be. OK?

-Very perverse.

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Yes, it is. Irrespective of the drawers which are glued together,

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they were using animal glues, they didn't have to be joined.

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Let's look at this one. This one, we will take it, maybe 1580.

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Here we imported more work, more style, more design from the continent,

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in this case mostly Holland.

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-Split-turn columns, inlays of mother-of-pearl and ivory now.

-Yep.

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But this is quite crude,

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this is quite crude... And it has signs of wear where you wouldn't expect it.

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Let's have a look at the bottom here. We open one of these,

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and that one... Now look here, for example.

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See all these scratches?

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-Mm-hmm.

-Why would you have those scratches there?

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If you wouldn't scratch the inside of a candle box, or the outside, why would you scratch here?

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This was made in 1920, between 1900 and 1920, in the style of the 1640s.

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For final proof, if you can give me a hand just to pull that drawer,

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I want to look at the inside of the drawer.

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Now look at all this white wood here.

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Yes. New.

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Now there's enough patination there for 100 years,

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so it's 1905 or 19-whatever.

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The point is, that there is not enough age in it to have oxidised, or the timber to become oxidised.

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So this one is the copy - I won't say it's a fake.

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It's a copy.

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In its own right, it's an interesting thing, but it's just not an antique,

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whereas that one, 1580s, the genuine article, on a new base,

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but otherwise wonderful and very rare.

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-So this one today for insurance purposes, oh, between £800 and £1,000.

-Right.

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This one, er...

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restored with feet replaced, and in what we call concourse condition,

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would cost somewhere in the region of £5,000.

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As it is, probably £2,000 on the open market.

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-Excellent.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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-What made you bring it?

-It's such a tiddly little thing,

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I thought I'd bring it along and see what the comments were.

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Very... Yes, and very portable, this tiddly little thing, isn't it?

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And tell me what you know about it.

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I purchased it at a boot fair in a box

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with small doll's house pieces in.

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Then I realised what the mark was on the bottom.

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I've met the lady who I purchased it from, at a later date.

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We believe it was probably given as a gift after a Russian ship had come into Gosport in 1912.

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That's interesting. Then the mark underneath...

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What were you referring to about the mark underneath? What did you find?

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Well, is the first word, "Elena", a ship?

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The second word, we understand it to be the northern port of Russia.

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Yes, well, it's certainly written in Cyrillic and it's certainly dated.

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That's a marvellous story

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and it's difficult for me to substantiate it at the moment.

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I don't think that something that

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came from a ship would have such an intensely personal inscription on it,

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because this is not only an engraving,

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but it's a facsimile of somebody's handwriting.

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What we can be absolutely sure of

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-is that it says Elena, and that it's 1912.

-Yes.

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That's convenient because it is

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pre-Revolutionary Russian. What about the mark there?

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That furry mark above - did you ever think about that one?

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Well, I have been told what it could be.

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Yes, and what did they tell you that it could be?

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They said it could be Faberge.

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Well, it absolutely is Faberge.

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And it's Faberge written in Cyrillic

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underneath the imperial arms of Nicholas and Alexandra.

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-And you bought it at a boot fair for how much?

-£5.

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-£5. Do you think you overdid it?

-Yes.

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Do you?!

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I don't share that opinion actually, because it's perfect.

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It says everything about Faberge in this particular mood,

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and I think one should put it down for £2,500.

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-Goodness me!

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Gracious. Well, the best investment I've made recently!

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Certainly better than any investment I'VE ever made, I must say!

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Absolutely magnificent view of Mont Blanc.

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Yes, it is lovely, isn't it?

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-That's not just lovely, it's grand, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:19:490:19:53

I don't know it at all, I've been to Switzerland, I don't know that area,

0:19:530:19:56

but friends of mine who do know it say that this valley is exactly the same now.

0:19:560:20:03

I don't think it's changed except it has lots of chalets dotted around on the hill.

0:20:030:20:07

Oh, has it? Oh, yes.

0:20:070:20:09

For rich people to ski from. But what we're standing on, as it were, is the Col de Balme,

0:20:090:20:14

which is at the head of the Chamonix Valley looking west up the valley to Mont Blanc here.

0:20:140:20:21

It's signed and dated down here by William Collingwood Smith.

0:20:210:20:26

-Yes, that's right, yes.

-And it's dated 1860.

0:20:260:20:30

I knew it was quite early, yes.

0:20:300:20:32

-Yes, early.

-Because it belonged to a

0:20:320:20:35

great aunt of mine and her husband, and I've known it all my life.

0:20:350:20:39

I remember it in her house first,

0:20:390:20:41

and then it was in my mother's before it came to me.

0:20:410:20:44

Right, so you've grown up with it as well?

0:20:440:20:47

I've grown up with it, yes, I know it well.

0:20:470:20:49

It must have been a tremendously romantic thing to grow up with.

0:20:490:20:52

Well, it is rather.

0:20:520:20:53

Well, it's a big subject and it needs a big scale, and it really works.

0:20:530:20:57

-I just love this romantic cloud coming in here.

-Yes.

0:20:570:21:00

Because that kind of sits on a temperature differential, doesn't it, the cloud?

0:21:000:21:04

-It really does look like that, as if it's on mirror glass...

-Yes.

0:21:040:21:08

cutting the valley in half that way,

0:21:080:21:10

-and gives a fantastic impression of scale down there.

-Yes, it does, doesn't it?

0:21:100:21:15

-And then whoosh up to the mountain at the end.

-Up to the distance, yes.

0:21:150:21:18

I've seen few pictures by him, but never anything so big,

0:21:180:21:21

-nor in such good condition.

-Really?

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At any rate, the mountain itself was climbed in the 18th century.

0:21:230:21:29

-Yes.

-So in 1780, some 80 years before this was painted,

0:21:290:21:35

but what's amusing is that 1860

0:21:350:21:38

was the heyday of the British public's fascination

0:21:380:21:42

-with the Alps and everything to do with them.

-Yes.

0:21:420:21:46

So I must just tell you about Collingwood Smith's namesake.

0:21:460:21:49

-Yes.

-He was called Albert Smith,

0:21:490:21:51

who, about eight years earlier than the painting was painted,

0:21:510:21:55

climbed Mont Blanc. But Albert Smith was an absolutely appalling climber.

0:21:550:22:01

Well, he was jolly brave to go up there.

0:22:010:22:03

He was very brave, but he was also very drunk.

0:22:030:22:05

Oh, dear, that's probably why.

0:22:050:22:07

He had a glass of champagne every mile or so, going up the mountain.

0:22:070:22:11

And in the end he was so completely insensible with cold and alcohol

0:22:110:22:15

because they didn't wear proper mountaineering clothes,

0:22:150:22:18

-they wore ordinary clothes.

-Yes.

0:22:180:22:20

He sort of passed out, and his guides had to chip steps in the ice

0:22:200:22:24

and pull him up on a rope, because he was almost unconscious,

0:22:240:22:27

and when he finally got to the top,

0:22:270:22:29

he only spent half an hour there,

0:22:290:22:31

-enough time to drink quite a lot more champagne...

-More champagne.

0:22:310:22:34

..and passed out again, had to be

0:22:340:22:36

-carried back down the mountain.

-Good gracious.

0:22:360:22:39

-But Albert Smith kept a journal about it.

-Yes.

0:22:390:22:41

And Albert Smith found that the English were completely captivated

0:22:410:22:45

by the romance of the mountains,

0:22:450:22:47

-and this picture is really painted on the back of that.

-Yes.

0:22:470:22:51

Anyway, it's completely splendid, a very difficult to value.

0:22:510:22:54

-Have you ever even thought about it properly?

-Not at all, haven't thought about it.

0:22:540:22:59

I think I'd be crazy not to put eight, possibly more,

0:22:590:23:04

thousand pounds on this picture.

0:23:040:23:06

-Really?

-Yes.

0:23:060:23:08

I had had no idea of what it was valued at.

0:23:080:23:11

As I say, it was just a painting I'm very fond of.

0:23:110:23:14

In olden days, a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking,

0:23:170:23:21

but for this week's collector,

0:23:210:23:23

anything goes, because Rosemary Hawthorn

0:23:230:23:26

-is known officially as The Knicker Lady.

-I am.

0:23:260:23:29

I must ask you, how did you get into knickers?

0:23:290:23:32

-Professionally speaking?

-Yes.

0:23:320:23:34

Well, Michael, the short answer is

0:23:340:23:37

that I was interested in fashion and costume -

0:23:370:23:40

very interested in it -

0:23:400:23:43

and...but I was particularly interested in underwear.

0:23:430:23:47

I started to collect all sorts of underwear, and then kind of majored in knickers.

0:23:470:23:51

But when did women start wearing knickers?

0:23:510:23:54

Well, surprisingly, it's really about a couple of hundred years ago.

0:23:540:23:58

Up till then they didn't wear anything at all, they didn't bother.

0:23:580:24:01

What is the oldest pair you have?

0:24:010:24:03

The oldest pair I have, really, are pantalets, like these.

0:24:030:24:09

-Two separate legs blowing in the wind here.

-All for one person?

0:24:090:24:15

Yes! And the danger was the strings might become untied

0:24:150:24:19

and your could lose one of your leg ends.

0:24:190:24:22

But they were made all of this sort of pure cotton?

0:24:220:24:25

Lovely cotton or linen, and then they go on a few more years and we get to where -

0:24:250:24:30

that's sort of about 1800 or so -

0:24:300:24:33

and then we go onto the time of sort of Victoria's on the throne,

0:24:330:24:37

and now they've had a rush of modesty,

0:24:370:24:40

and they've joined up the waistband.

0:24:400:24:43

These had braces, and they were known as "free-traders"

0:24:430:24:47

and "ever-readys".

0:24:470:24:49

I've just heard of "Alan Whickers", that's as far as it goes.

0:24:490:24:52

Oh, yeah, "Alan Whickers".

0:24:520:24:54

Now, these belonged to Her Majesty Queen Victoria.

0:24:540:25:00

-Herself?

-Herself. This pair have sat upon the English throne.

0:25:000:25:05

-She was a small woman, I thought...

-Well, I think

0:25:060:25:09

they are actually 45-and-a-half inches around the waistband,

0:25:090:25:15

but there is a small cipher at the back, the royal...

0:25:150:25:19

-Very discreet, on the waistband at the back.

-It says VR.

0:25:190:25:23

Yes, VR and a set number.

0:25:230:25:26

Victoria Regina rules the waves.

0:25:260:25:28

Look at that.

0:25:280:25:30

-Bless her heart.

-But how on earth do you get these things?

0:25:300:25:34

I mean, people don't bequeath their drawers, do they?

0:25:340:25:37

Well, no, there are one or two

0:25:370:25:38

people who have donated to collections.

0:25:380:25:40

I've been collecting for more years than I care to remember,

0:25:400:25:45

and as a clergy wife, you see, I have the pick of the jumble.

0:25:450:25:49

So your husband is a vicar?

0:25:490:25:52

Well, he's now retired, but yes, he was a vicar.

0:25:520:25:54

Known as the...?

0:25:540:25:56

-The Knicker Vicar.

-Of course.

-Yes.

0:25:560:25:59

And besides that, on one occasion John found a bra,

0:25:590:26:04

and it had been left in the holy water stoup in the church porch.

0:26:040:26:08

So people are really eager to cast off their underclothes.

0:26:080:26:13

-Sounds almost biblical, doesn't it?

-It does.

0:26:130:26:16

I have to say, it's quite extraordinary to see four 1966 World Cup tickets, including the final,

0:26:180:26:23

all signed by what would appear to be the entire England team.

0:26:230:26:30

How on earth do you have that?

0:26:300:26:32

Well, I was fortunate that in September '91

0:26:320:26:38

I took a team out to Singapore to play for a charity match.

0:26:380:26:41

Right, so this is this handsome bunch here.

0:26:410:26:44

Yes, this is me in the front here.

0:26:440:26:46

-Oh, right.

-I managed to get Kevin Keegan to come from Spain

0:26:460:26:50

before he started his manager upward career.

0:26:500:26:54

-Right.

-This is Tony Woodcock.

-Ah-ha.

0:26:540:26:56

This is Roger Hunt, Sir Bobby Charlton, Sir Geoff Hurst,

0:26:560:27:02

Gordon Banks, Pat Jennings, Mike England and Martin Peters.

0:27:020:27:08

We played against an international Far East team for charity for the Children's Society of Singapore.

0:27:080:27:15

From then, just before that,

0:27:150:27:20

my elder brother died in Canada.

0:27:200:27:24

My sister-in-law passed me five tickets. She said, "I think Tony would like you to have these,"

0:27:240:27:31

so they all very kindly signed them for me.

0:27:310:27:34

These were old ticket stubs that your brother had kept.

0:27:340:27:38

Yes, he went to see them, I was working in Nigeria at the time,

0:27:380:27:41

-and then I was based in Singapore for a long time.

-Right.

-And I was...

0:27:410:27:45

-Hence this.

-Hence this.

-Right.

0:27:450:27:48

I mean, it is probably, certainly for English football,

0:27:480:27:52

the defining moment in recent history, really.

0:27:520:27:56

Any football collector, whether you're English or German,

0:27:560:27:59

would absolutely love to have one of these.

0:27:590:28:02

Obviously the final is worth much more than the others signed,

0:28:020:28:06

but it's difficult because it is quirky that they weren't signed at the time,

0:28:060:28:10

they were signed later, but you do have all of them on it

0:28:100:28:13

-and of course that's not possible to do again now.

-No.

0:28:130:28:16

I think they're probably worth somewhere around £15,000 to £20,000.

0:28:160:28:22

Oh, my God!

0:28:220:28:24

For the frame.

0:28:240:28:25

Really? Well, I wouldn't sell them, I just come here to get the insurance value.

0:28:250:28:30

-Yes.

-Because I'm going to pass them on to my son.

0:28:300:28:33

The exciting thing for me about the Roadshow is you never know what's coming out of the bags.

0:28:330:28:38

And when you started to unwrap this from a plastic bag, my heart jumped

0:28:380:28:43

-because I think it's such a wonderful object.

-Really?

-Yeah, absolutely.

0:28:430:28:47

Has it been in your family a long time, or have you just bought it?

0:28:470:28:51

-Well, I think it was probably my mother-in-law's grandparents'.

-Right.

0:28:510:28:57

And when my mother-in-law died, I inherited it.

0:28:570:29:01

OK. Were they a farming family?

0:29:010:29:04

Yes, in Devon.

0:29:040:29:05

-In Devon.

-Yes.

-Which part of Devon?

0:29:050:29:07

-Not far from Bideford, I think.

-Not far from Bideford.

0:29:070:29:10

Well, this jug then has probably been in your family since it was made,

0:29:100:29:14

because it was made very near Bideford.

0:29:140:29:17

We can see it says E Fishley,

0:29:170:29:19

and that's for a chap called Edwin Beer Fishley,

0:29:190:29:22

who worked at Fremington in North Devon,

0:29:220:29:24

and it's dated 1851 - so they're a North Devon farming family,

0:29:240:29:29

and they've got this jug

0:29:290:29:31

which has these absolutely super farming motifs.

0:29:310:29:34

It's done in a very naive sgraffito style, so it's been glazed

0:29:340:29:39

and then scratched through, just with the end of a piece of wood.

0:29:390:29:43

-Really?

-Or a pointed tool. And so you've got this prize bull,

0:29:430:29:47

huge great chest,

0:29:470:29:49

tiny little short legs.

0:29:490:29:51

Then turning it round, the farming motifs continue.

0:29:510:29:56

We've got, "Success to the farmer The plough and the flail

0:29:560:30:01

"Likewise to our commerce

0:30:010:30:04

"With peace in our Isles."

0:30:040:30:06

It's got everything, he's thrown the kitchen sink at this jug, fantastic.

0:30:060:30:12

-They're pretty scarce.

-Yes.

0:30:120:30:15

And if this appeared at auction, I would be there trying to buy it,

0:30:150:30:19

and £3,000 wouldn't be enough.

0:30:190:30:22

-Really?

-Really.

-Goodness.

0:30:220:30:25

You'll need to insure the jug for £5,000.

0:30:250:30:29

Well, chairs that have got this amount of repair

0:30:300:30:33

must have some sort of extraordinary history.

0:30:330:30:35

Why is all this like this? What's happened to these?

0:30:350:30:38

It's mainly because they've been through the Battle of Trafalgar.

0:30:380:30:42

-What? Literally?

-Literally, yes.

0:30:420:30:44

These were the chairs in the Captain's cabin of the HMS Africa,

0:30:440:30:48

which was one of the ships of line in Trafalgar.

0:30:480:30:51

When was the ship built?

0:30:510:30:53

I think it was built about seven to 10 years before.

0:30:530:30:57

1798 or something like that?

0:30:570:30:58

-Yes.

-So how many do you have? How many have survived?

0:30:580:31:02

It's a set of 12, and two of them are armchairs and 10 of them are chairs without arms.

0:31:020:31:09

Right, you can see all this repair.

0:31:090:31:12

This is certainly very early repair here, all this.

0:31:120:31:15

-That's probably the ship's blacksmith, I should think.

-Yes.

0:31:150:31:19

Clearly it must have been on the ship

0:31:190:31:21

and they'd have access to this sort of foundry work, fairly light, fairly basic blacksmith's work.

0:31:210:31:27

This repair is clearly 20th century which doesn't matter at all,

0:31:270:31:30

it's just to replace that rail,

0:31:300:31:32

but what's interesting, you say they are a set of 12,

0:31:320:31:35

and we wonder how many have survived, but can you see just down there?

0:31:350:31:38

-Ah, yes.

-14 in Roman numerals.

0:31:380:31:41

-14.

-Clearly there were more than 12.

0:31:410:31:43

-More than 12, yeah.

-A couple have disappeared.

0:31:430:31:46

We'll have a look around the house at home.

0:31:460:31:48

So you've got 12 of these at home?

0:31:480:31:50

That's absolutely amazing, it's...

0:31:500:31:53

I just can't get over the historical significance about these.

0:31:530:31:56

So this has been inherited, been passed down over generations?

0:31:560:32:00

-Yes, it has, yes.

-So what do you know about them as chairs?

0:32:000:32:03

Well, I really don't know anything specific about them as chairs

0:32:030:32:07

except the one burning question that we've always had is

0:32:070:32:10

whether in fact they came from his ship -

0:32:100:32:13

the Africa itself - when it was built.

0:32:130:32:15

In other words they were actually made for the ship,

0:32:150:32:18

or whether in fact they came from a Spanish ship or a French ship.

0:32:180:32:22

-How about neither?

-Or neither, or Dutch.

0:32:220:32:24

-Well, you've got it. They're Dutch.

-Is that right?

0:32:240:32:27

-They're Dutch.

-Oh, amazing!

0:32:270:32:29

That's why I was so interested to know when the ship was made.

0:32:290:32:32

-I've dated these to 1790-1800...

-Right.

0:32:320:32:35

..regardless of any history that you know about them, which is fantastic.

0:32:350:32:39

I'd be interested to see if there are

0:32:390:32:41

Admiralty records of that besides.

0:32:410:32:43

Was this ship commissioned with Dutch furniture?

0:32:430:32:46

Was there a particular Dutch dealer who was rather active at the time in 1790-1798?

0:32:460:32:51

So how do we value something so historic?

0:32:510:32:53

I take the view that the value is really in the history

0:32:530:32:56

and the personal belongings side of it,

0:32:560:32:58

so it seems to me it's not really something that you could put a value on.

0:32:580:33:02

-OK, well, as a historian, I'm happy with that.

-Yeah.

0:33:020:33:05

Thank you very much, absolutely amazing.

0:33:050:33:08

Have you ever had this looked at?

0:33:080:33:10

I took it into a shop once

0:33:100:33:11

and they said that they thought it was probably worth perhaps £100,

0:33:110:33:16

but I ought to get it looked at by such as yourself, to get a value.

0:33:160:33:20

You would like to know the value?

0:33:200:33:22

Well, I think it is for me something that really appeals.

0:33:220:33:26

This reminds me of when I wake up in the morning, I have a big fig tree in my garden full of birds,

0:33:260:33:32

but I don't see little things like these parakeets

0:33:320:33:35

which are absolutely beautifully done, with their little pink cheeks.

0:33:350:33:39

What's so nice about this is you've got all the shading in the leaf,

0:33:390:33:42

which is extraordinary when you think this is actually made of bronze.

0:33:420:33:46

It's bronze, bronze birds, bronze leaves, cold painted.

0:33:460:33:51

One factory comes to mind when you look at something like this, which is the Bergman factory.

0:33:510:33:57

Now, normally things like this - you'd expect it to be marked.

0:33:570:34:01

If you turn it upside down, there is a mark, and many people fall into the trap here.

0:34:010:34:06

-All this says is, "Patent applied for."

-Oh, right.

0:34:060:34:10

So that's not the mark.

0:34:100:34:12

And Bergman things are very collectable.

0:34:130:34:16

-Yes.

-This has got all that appeal, it's got real sex appeal in my view.

0:34:160:34:21

Well, I think there are many people who would like something like this,

0:34:210:34:24

the vibrancy, the sheer delight of it.

0:34:240:34:28

And a conservative estimate for this would be somewhere in the region of £1,200 to £1,500.

0:34:280:34:33

-Really? Gosh, that's a bit more than £100, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:34:330:34:36

Now this is a great moment for me because I love postcards.

0:34:360:34:40

I'm not a collector, but I find them irresistible

0:34:400:34:43

because they are moments of time captured for ever.

0:34:430:34:46

Now, are you the postcard collector?

0:34:460:34:48

No, they're not mine, they were my brother's.

0:34:480:34:51

When he died, he passed them on to my daughter.

0:34:510:34:54

-So she owns them?

-Yes, she does.

-Lucky girl.

0:34:540:34:56

What was his interest?

0:34:560:34:58

He collected postcards for many, many years

0:34:580:35:01

and he just liked to have any subject within local history,

0:35:010:35:05

-or Burnham and Highbridge.

-What started him?

0:35:050:35:08

I think it was just purely he was a great historian, he loved history.

0:35:080:35:12

-Right.

-Postcards were one of the easiest and cheapest things to buy.

0:35:120:35:16

Well, they are wonderful moments of history,

0:35:160:35:18

-so we've got here obviously albums containing, I presume, local views.

-Yes.

-How many did he collect?

0:35:180:35:24

Um, it must be nearly 10,000, I should think.

0:35:240:35:28

Gosh. Where are they all now?

0:35:280:35:30

All in albums at the moment.

0:35:300:35:32

Right. I love them because, as I say, they are absolutely history as it was lived.

0:35:320:35:37

This pile out of the album, let's look at these.

0:35:370:35:40

Most postcards are worth very little money, they're local views,

0:35:400:35:43

they're interesting to people who live there,

0:35:430:35:46

but they don't say anything to the world as a whole.

0:35:460:35:49

Once you get early delivery vans with those boys posing,

0:35:490:35:54

suddenly that moment, in whenever it was, 1910, suddenly comes to life.

0:35:540:36:00

Now there we've got a mining one, the Somerset coalfield,

0:36:000:36:05

but there we see the simplicity,

0:36:050:36:07

the basic-ness of that sort of style of mining,

0:36:070:36:10

again early in the 20th century.

0:36:100:36:12

Early flying, Martock, 1911.

0:36:120:36:16

Pioneer aviation, and again with a local reference.

0:36:160:36:20

This is what I like, we're really absolutely here and now.

0:36:200:36:23

Now, isn't that great?!

0:36:230:36:25

"Captain Milles' educated dogs, almost human."

0:36:250:36:28

"The Italian Circ. Burnham on Sea".

0:36:280:36:30

Those sort of cards are just great, they're never to be repeated.

0:36:300:36:34

Um, he's got thousands like that.

0:36:340:36:37

-Very much so.

-Very much so. Now you must be aware that some of these cost quite a lot of money.

0:36:370:36:42

I'm aware some of them are, yes.

0:36:420:36:43

There are cards here that will be worth £100.

0:36:430:36:46

There are cards that will be worth £50, there are lots of cards worth £10 and £20.

0:36:460:36:51

If you've got 10,000 local history cards like this, if you take an average of £10 a card,

0:36:510:36:58

-you know, that's...£100,000.

-Yeah.

0:36:580:37:02

Well, we have an alcove each and three crackers between us.

0:37:050:37:09

Where did you get these wonderful nutcrackers from?

0:37:090:37:11

These were acquired by my father.

0:37:110:37:13

He was an avid collector of antiques and this would have been in the late '40s and early '50s, after the war.

0:37:130:37:19

Did he have a thing about nuts?

0:37:190:37:21

-He did indeed.

-He must have had a sense of humour as well.

-I think so, yes, yes.

0:37:210:37:26

-He mostly collected Oriental antiques but these obviously appealed to him.

-Absolutely.

0:37:260:37:31

Now this one's made of walnut.

0:37:310:37:33

-Yes.

-And it's a wonderfully carved ape's head wearing a mob cap.

-Right.

0:37:330:37:38

-It's almost certainly German.

-Is it?

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The eyes are real glass,

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and they've been sort of inset into the well-carved features.

0:37:420:37:46

-Yes.

-And it might interest you to know that at auction,

0:37:460:37:49

I would put an estimate of between £300 and £500 on that one.

0:37:490:37:53

Really? That surprises me, I wouldn't have thought...

0:37:530:37:56

-That's a pleasant surprise.

-Absolutely, well, let's move on,

0:37:560:37:59

because this one is even finer quality than that one.

0:37:590:38:01

-Yes, indeed.

-This is carved from cherry wood,

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and this gentleman has the most wonderful walrus moustache.

0:38:040:38:10

All things considered, he's from the 1880s.

0:38:110:38:13

-Right.

-He would be worth at auction between £400 and £600.

0:38:130:38:17

-Really?

-Oh, yes, but it's this one that really took my heart.

0:38:170:38:21

-Yes.

-This lovely Bavarian carved example is a rabbit's head.

0:38:210:38:26

I love it, it's got little sideburns.

0:38:260:38:29

Look at those eyes, really magical.

0:38:290:38:32

People go mad for these, and I would have no hesitation

0:38:320:38:35

-of putting this in at £600 to £800.

-Really?

0:38:350:38:38

-So you've got a lot of value in just three nutcrackers.

-Indeed.

0:38:380:38:42

-Quite amazing, isn't it?

-You're very lucky.

0:38:420:38:44

Well, we're sitting in a garden, and in a way this is a little

0:38:460:38:49

celestial garden that you've brought to me today, isn't it?

0:38:490:38:53

Where did these wonderful jewels come from?

0:38:530:38:55

Well, that was left to me by my mother.

0:38:550:38:58

Through my mother from her mother, so I know where that came from.

0:38:580:39:03

-But when our mother died... This is my sister here.

-Mm-hmm.

0:39:030:39:07

..we went through various little boxes

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and things of nothing in particular,

0:39:100:39:13

and we each had a choice, and this was my choice.

0:39:130:39:18

I don't even know if it's real.

0:39:180:39:20

We never saw it, my mother never wore it,

0:39:200:39:23

and my father didn't know where it came from, never seen it before.

0:39:230:39:26

My goodness! Well, it certainly is real. It's a most fascinating jewel.

0:39:260:39:29

There was a huge revival for

0:39:290:39:31

everything 18th century in the 19th century,

0:39:310:39:33

and to all intents and purposes

0:39:330:39:35

the use of the enamel, the use of the gem setting,

0:39:350:39:39

the whole composition, is inspired by 18th-century France.

0:39:390:39:42

But we can say with absolute confidence

0:39:420:39:45

that this ISN'T an 18th-century jewel,

0:39:450:39:47

it's an 18th-century revival one,

0:39:470:39:49

and blue enamel, diamonds, a little ruby in the front...

0:39:490:39:53

Turn it over and there's tightly-fitting locket at the back,

0:39:530:39:56

but one would be able to remove that and put a photograph or a lock of hair in there.

0:39:560:40:01

Have you worn it?

0:40:010:40:02

I do, I do wear it, and I love it.

0:40:020:40:05

Good, that's marvellous.

0:40:050:40:07

So you love your jewellery - what do

0:40:070:40:09

you feel when you wear the jewellery?

0:40:090:40:11

-I think a sort of regal, I think... Yes.

-Do you think it makes you...?

0:40:110:40:17

Yes, well, that's fantastic, it's

0:40:170:40:19

a sort of shot in the arm, or a shot somewhere anyway - with jewellery.

0:40:190:40:22

Now tell me about this one, this is a most extraordinary bug, isn't it?

0:40:220:40:26

It's almost a bug that's been living

0:40:260:40:28

too close to Sizewell B, he's gone all blue and shiny, hasn't he?

0:40:280:40:32

He's wonderful. I've always thought

0:40:320:40:36

it was actually bought for my grandmother.

0:40:360:40:39

-And what date would that might have been?

-Er, 18...?

0:40:390:40:44

-1890s.

-Yes.

-Well, that's absolutely perfect

0:40:440:40:47

because one CAN look at jewellery,

0:40:470:40:50

and it IS dated, and dated by design,

0:40:500:40:53

and that's what we really look for, actually.

0:40:530:40:55

This is a superb gem-set bumble-bee brooch,

0:40:550:40:59

or at least a bee brooch - and a Victorian one.

0:40:590:41:02

But actually, thanks to the box,

0:41:020:41:04

which has been rather carefully preserved,

0:41:040:41:06

we know perfectly well that it was

0:41:060:41:08

made by a firm called LaCloche Freres.

0:41:080:41:10

-It's difficult to decipher.

-Isn't it?

0:41:100:41:12

But it's absolutely there and a very distinguished firm

0:41:120:41:15

running in competition with Cartier,

0:41:150:41:20

so there's a maker

0:41:200:41:23

for a superb gem-set bumble bee.

0:41:230:41:25

The thing about the bumble bees is that they are a message, in a way -

0:41:250:41:30

it's a bee, and with the pin,

0:41:300:41:32

it's "bee sure".

0:41:320:41:35

I know, it's rather sort of corny, in a way,

0:41:350:41:38

but it's even more corny when

0:41:380:41:39

the thing's rather conspicuously valuable,

0:41:390:41:41

because the body is made up of rather

0:41:410:41:43

silky-looking Ceylon sapphire, isn't it?

0:41:430:41:45

Although not the most intense colour,

0:41:450:41:48

it's a very, very pleasing colour,

0:41:480:41:51

and very nice bright diamonds

0:41:510:41:54

and rather menacing little ruby eyes.

0:41:540:41:58

And furry feet and antennae and things. Any ideas of value?

0:41:580:42:03

Well, I know that Pa had that valued at about £4,000.

0:42:030:42:07

And that, well, we didn't even know it was real so...

0:42:070:42:10

No, no, so that's up for grabs, isn't it?

0:42:100:42:13

My goodness. Well, £4,000, that's a little while ago, because

0:42:130:42:17

I think that's a very desirable thing,

0:42:170:42:19

it's very concentrated, it's very animated,

0:42:190:42:21

it's by a superb maker, and everybody wants this thing.

0:42:210:42:26

Honestly they do. And value is to do with

0:42:260:42:30

-measured want - that's all that value is.

-Yes.

0:42:300:42:33

And I'm going to tell you that in measured want,

0:42:330:42:36

that that's £10,000.

0:42:360:42:38

Good God!

0:42:380:42:39

And measured want again here - not off the hook quite yet.

0:42:390:42:44

Not quite the same gasp-making figure,

0:42:440:42:47

but quite enough at, erm, say, £4,500, £5,000.

0:42:470:42:50

That's very gasp,

0:42:500:42:53

if you think that it was sort of loose, and Ma never wore it.

0:42:530:42:58

-Well, superb, thank you very much.

-Thank you, lovely.

0:42:580:43:01

Well, I think we all agree that went with a bang, which is quite apt,

0:43:010:43:05

as the man who built Montacute House

0:43:050:43:07

opened for the prosecution in the trial of Guy Fawkes.

0:43:070:43:10

There are more interesting facts where that came from, and I shall

0:43:100:43:12

let you have them on our return trip to Montacute House,

0:43:120:43:16

which will be very soon.

0:43:160:43:17

Until then, from Somerset, goodbye.

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