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Any director of period drama | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
worth his salt will inevitably find his way to where we've come today. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
This part of Somerset is Oscar-winning territory. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
Roadshow Productions proudly presents Montacute House. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
The Oscar was a result of a visit here in the summer of 1995 | 0:00:52 | 0:00:57 | |
of a distinguished cast and crew to shoot some of the final scenes for Jane Austen's Sense And Sensibility. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:04 | |
OK, here's the storyline - the disillusioned Dashwood sisters have just arrived from London. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
Their lack of fortune has sealed their fate, rather like the original residents here, the Phelips family, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
who down on their luck sold all the family silver before leaving for ever in 1911, but I digress. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:21 | |
The Dashwoods have arrived from London. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Marianne immediately goes in search of her beloved Willoughby. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
She crosses the east court into the open countryside which surrounds Montacute's 25 acres of grounds. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:35 | |
Cue Eleanor, played by Emma Thompson, to observe anxiously from the library. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
This was the ideal vantage point for the director to film Marianne's progress. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:45 | |
When Marianne doesn't return, there's a great deal of floor pacing, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
mostly here in the Great Hall, which it has to be said is perfect for pacing, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
as our sound man will agree. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
It all ends with a collective sigh of relief when Colonel Brandon bursts through the door | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
with a dripping Marianne in his arms. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Tissues all round, roll the credits. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Even Montacute village got in on the Sense And Sensibility action, stealing a scene or two. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:12 | |
Today, another epic drama of treasures lost and found. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
Lights, camera, cue the experts. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
What are the marks? Did you nick it from the library?! | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
That's a very good question, I think we'll start there. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
They're beacons of horror. Where did they come from? | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
-It's obviously a library. -It's from Czech Republic. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
-Czech Republic? -Czech Republic Library. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
What was it doing in the Czech Public Library? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
-It belongs to my sister, she got it like a gift from my mum's friend. -Yes. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
And he was a teacher in a college and they had a, you know, library or whatever. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
-I think he got it from there. -That's a jolly nice gift. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
Here we are, it's Observations On The Theory And Practice Of Landscape Gardening by Humphrey Repton. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
Now this book, I mean, the Landscape Gardening is a fabulous book, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
but it has to be one of the biggest pieces of advertising, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
most expensive pieces of advertising that anybody in 1803 could possibly do. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
-Oh, wow. -It's just quite incredible. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
Humphrey Repton was a man who designed parklands for the rich and famous, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
and he used to do things called Red Books, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
which he actually wrote out what he was going to do, a sort of a proposal, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
and they were all full of watercolours and all that sort of thing, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
but then, because he was so popular, he decided to publish this, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
and this is very exciting, it's a wonderful book because... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
Let's have a look at Plate One, and what we've got here is Wentworth in Yorkshire. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
Here is a view of a little quarry and people quarrying things out there. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
There's a rather nice tower there, and this is how he proposes that he's going to make it. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:50 | |
We take that off there, he's made the quarry into a rather nice sort of open parkland. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
Here are the deer, and there are the coach and horses going along there. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
They're absolutely wonderful, glorious plates. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Here we are, West Wycombe in Buckinghamshire. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
What I'd have thought was a perfectly nice lake... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
but Humphrey can do much better than that. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Make a way so that you can actually see to the house there, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
which means cutting all that down | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and I assume making the lake a little bit bigger. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
It's wonderful. Put that back. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Last but by no means least, we come to this magnificent beast. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
A general view of Bayham. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
-Now that's a perfectly ordinary view really, isn't it? -It is. -It is? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
But it is absolutely remarkable, the way he transforms Bayham. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
-There we are. -Lovely, isn't it? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Lake, castle... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
He did everything and, of course, this is all... | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
They didn't have diggers apart from hand diggers. There were no machines. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
-You say it's not yours, that it's your sister's. -It's my sister's. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
Let's have a look at the binding. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
Binding, the binding's certainly not contemporary. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
I would have thought late 19th century, and it is coming out of its binding, too. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
-Yeah, it is. -So it's got quite a lot of repair that needs to happen to it. -All right. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:14 | |
It's such a funny thing to find on the continent, really. It's a very English book. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
-It is very English. -Very English book. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
If it was in fabulous condition, let's go for that one first, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
that's the good news, or rather it's the bad news, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-because I would say that in really super condition this would be worth £5,000. -Right. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:34 | |
The bad news is that I suspect that in the condition it's in, probably £2,500 would be more like it. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:40 | |
That's good, anyway! | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
Well, a tremendous glaze, a wonderful glaze on a straightforward jug, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
but there's something special about the jug. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
And it's the handle. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Now you tell me about this. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
It spent many years in an Antwerp flat of my husband's grandparents. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:03 | |
-Yes. -And all I know is that whenever Grandpa came down the stairs and passed it, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:09 | |
he couldn't resist stroking it. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
He couldn't resist stroking it. Well, you can see that, can't you? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
It is a beautifully-sculpted figure. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-It's unusual to see something as well-sculpted like this on a straightforward jug after all. -Yes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:24 | |
-Now you can date this piece actually by the figure. -Oh. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
Because our notions of beauty change over time, so what is the perfect female ideal in the 1960s, Twiggy, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:36 | |
-is not the perfect female ideal around the year 1900. -Yes. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
When in fact the fuller figure was thought to be more fetching | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
and not only that, but her hair-do, this classic chignon, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
the way her hair is sort of brought up at the back into the chignon, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
That is absolutely typical of the Art Nouveau period. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
The Art Nouveau basically is a fantastic movement. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
It emerges through the late 19th century, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
it's essentially inspired by Japanese design. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
But at its heart is sex, organic growth. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:13 | |
I think you feel all of these things at work in this jug. You can see... | 0:07:13 | 0:07:19 | |
Are these butterfly wings or are they petals? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-Flower, leaves. -Leaves, leaves coming out. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
So the whole notion of growth, and she's looking into it, tip-toe. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
Even her toes have been picked out | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
-with a tiny, tiny bit of colour there. -Yes, yes. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
Now this is the mark of a Hungarian factory in Budapest called Zsolnay, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
one of the best potteries producing Art Nouveau pottery in that period. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:48 | |
Absolutely stunning, beautiful thing. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Well, you're going to have to insure it. I guess | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
if you insure that for somewhere in the region of... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
let's say, £2,500. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Really? Gosh! | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
Better not drop it, had we? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Four and 20 ponies trotting through the dark | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Brandy for the parson Baccy for the clerk | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Laces for a lady Letters for a spy... | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
And lace! Here we are in the centre of the lace-making industry. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
Honiton is very close by, and we're surrounded by Honiton lace. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
And Honiton lace, as well as all other sorts of lace | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
-in the 18th and 19th centuries was incredibly desirable, wasn't it? -It was, yes. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
-Much more valuable than jewellery. -And that was because of the time? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
The time, yes. Approximately 10 hours for a square inch. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
-For example, we have a wedding veil at the museum which cost £84 in 1868. -My goodness. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
And that was an average man's annual salary then. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
So the question is, would you pay an average man's annual salary now for a wedding veil? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
-I don't think so. -Unlikely, I have to say. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
The thing that I suppose most people will know is that Queen Victoria used Honiton... | 0:08:53 | 0:08:59 | |
-Yes, she did. -..to make the lace for her wedding veil. -Yes, she did. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
But up until then, was Honiton really looked at as a prize lace-making area? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
Yes, it was, but maybe not quite as much as Brussels, but yes, it was, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
and the motifs that we make are much more realistic to nature. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Yes, if one looks at some of these wonderful motifs, there are roses... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
On this piece here, we've got a lovely horse chestnut leaf | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
which fits so beautifully into the corners. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
On the lappet over here, we've got a little mermaid down at the end and so on. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
The actual way that the lace is made... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-It was made in a cottage-industry system. -Yes, it was. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
You'd have somebody who was a specialist in horse chestnut leaves | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
who'd do nothing but those. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
-That's right. -And then what happened? | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
The chief lady, she would gather it all together | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
and you would go in and say, "I would like a handkerchief." | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
She would look at her motifs and you'd say, "I like those on the corner," | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
and it would be assembled for you. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-It was the putting together that was the real skill? -Yes. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
And when one looks at something like this, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-which is obviously a hand-made net. -Yes, it is. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
At some point that was mechanised, wasn't it? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Yes. In about 1820, Heathcoat came to Tiverton, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
and he came and watched the lace-makers and he soon had a net-making machine. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
Of course the industry went right down from practically everybody having hand-made net, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:28 | |
£5 maybe a square yard, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
to 5p - I mean, it was, like, nothing. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
So, that must have absolutely collapsed the industry. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
It did. It was the end of earning your living, be it a poor living, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
but it carried on and carried on and of course it's a hobby today, and I've been teaching for 32 years. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:49 | |
Amazing. And the future of lace? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
Do you think there is a future? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
I hope there is, but we've got to work hard at making sure. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
It's been made in Honiton for over 400 years and we're not about to let it stop. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
Well, it came from a friend who, um, I've known for many years. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:06 | |
-OK. -I didn't know he had it. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
Yeah, does he know what it is? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
-No, he hadn't the faintest idea and none of his friends have. -Right. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
-None whatsoever. -So he sent you down as his ambassador. -Yeah. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
We love quirky and unusually-shaped objects on the Roadshow. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
In a sense, you know, there's a connection between this | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
and this very magnificent wristwatch you've got. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
-Oh. -This is a time-keeping device. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
I'm keeping a bit hush because my colleague on the clock section of the Roadshow saw this | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
and came rushing over, and I said, "No, I'm doing that." | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-Ah. -It's basically a whale oil lamp, spout lamp. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
It was almost certainly made in the Low Countries, probably Dutch, circa 1800. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:47 | |
It all happened at the top here in this wonderful glass cistern. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
So this is where you would put your whale oil, possibly a fish oil, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
and of course you had to know how quickly the oil was going to burn | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
because down the side of the reservoir, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
in a strip of pewter, is marked the hours. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
And of course you would have a wick protruding, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
and the wick would burn away, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
so it gave you light and time-keeping at the same time. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Oh, I understand, yeah. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
So, where did your friend get it from? It's an unusual thing... | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Well, between him and his wife and relations and all that, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
they moved all house and things, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
-and some of the stuff all got put into the loft where he is now. -OK. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
And then some years ago they started sorting through it, and found that. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
Yeah. Believe it or not, these are quite rare because obviously a lot did get thrown away. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
I'm sure they weren't very good time keepers. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
They probably made a hell of a stink as far as the actual lamp was concerned. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
-Probably did. -Fish oil. -Yeah! | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
-And because of that, they're quite scarce. -Yeah. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
Well, you know you'll have to sort of | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
go back to your friend rather sort of steadily | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
because it's worth at auction between £600 and £1,000. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
-I'm sure he'll be very pleased. -Excellent. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
What appears to be two fabulous bits of very early furniture, right? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
One of them is 1920. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
The other one is earlier. Now which do you think it is?! | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
-I would think this must be the 1920 one, then. -Yeah. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Why do you think that? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Because the drawers inside were glued, they weren't dove-tailed. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
-OK. -It didn't look like it was properly made by a carpenter. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
-OK, the drawers in this one? -Yes. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
A-ha! This looks very fresh, doesn't it? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
-Yeah. -Very fresh. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Quite right. This is glued, this is glued. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
-That looks like quite an old thing. -OK. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
Well, we'd better start telling you what to look for. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
We'll start with this one. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
It's an inlaid front with geometric style in the continental manner. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:18 | |
Here you've got a panel which shows architecture with different-coloured stained woods, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:25 | |
and as early as the 16th century they were staining sycamore | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
with oxide of iron to make it bright green. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
This would have been the most wonderful colours, and time has mellowed it. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
But the thing about old furniture - | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
GOOD old furniture was made very precisely. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
It was made with great finesse, it was never ever crudely made, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
otherwise it wouldn't have lasted this long. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Let's come back to where we were and now we look again inside. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
Here you've got the most wonderful clean look, as I said earlier, but why shouldn't it be? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:59 | |
It's a candle box. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
This was done with extreme care. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
I mean, this is actually chipped out of this oak, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
which is very hard and geometrically inlaid - very difficult. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
So in fact, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
the newer it looks, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-the more old it's likely to be. OK? -Very perverse. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
Yes, it is. Irrespective of the drawers which are glued together, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
they were using animal glues, they didn't have to be joined. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Let's look at this one. This one, we will take it, maybe 1580. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
Here we imported more work, more style, more design from the continent, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
in this case mostly Holland. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-Split-turn columns, inlays of mother-of-pearl and ivory now. -Yep. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
But this is quite crude, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
this is quite crude... And it has signs of wear where you wouldn't expect it. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Let's have a look at the bottom here. We open one of these, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
and that one... Now look here, for example. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
See all these scratches? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
-Mm-hmm. -Why would you have those scratches there? | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
If you wouldn't scratch the inside of a candle box, or the outside, why would you scratch here? | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
This was made in 1920, between 1900 and 1920, in the style of the 1640s. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:17 | |
For final proof, if you can give me a hand just to pull that drawer, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
I want to look at the inside of the drawer. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Now look at all this white wood here. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
Yes. New. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Now there's enough patination there for 100 years, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
so it's 1905 or 19-whatever. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
The point is, that there is not enough age in it to have oxidised, or the timber to become oxidised. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:42 | |
So this one is the copy - I won't say it's a fake. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
It's a copy. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
In its own right, it's an interesting thing, but it's just not an antique, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
whereas that one, 1580s, the genuine article, on a new base, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
but otherwise wonderful and very rare. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
-So this one today for insurance purposes, oh, between £800 and £1,000. -Right. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:09 | |
This one, er... | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
restored with feet replaced, and in what we call concourse condition, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:19 | |
would cost somewhere in the region of £5,000. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
As it is, probably £2,000 on the open market. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
-Excellent. -Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-What made you bring it? -It's such a tiddly little thing, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
I thought I'd bring it along and see what the comments were. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
Very... Yes, and very portable, this tiddly little thing, isn't it? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
And tell me what you know about it. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I purchased it at a boot fair in a box | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
with small doll's house pieces in. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Then I realised what the mark was on the bottom. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
I've met the lady who I purchased it from, at a later date. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
We believe it was probably given as a gift after a Russian ship had come into Gosport in 1912. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:04 | |
That's interesting. Then the mark underneath... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
What were you referring to about the mark underneath? What did you find? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Well, is the first word, "Elena", a ship? | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
The second word, we understand it to be the northern port of Russia. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:21 | |
Yes, well, it's certainly written in Cyrillic and it's certainly dated. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
That's a marvellous story | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
and it's difficult for me to substantiate it at the moment. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
I don't think that something that | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
came from a ship would have such an intensely personal inscription on it, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
because this is not only an engraving, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
but it's a facsimile of somebody's handwriting. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
What we can be absolutely sure of | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
-is that it says Elena, and that it's 1912. -Yes. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
That's convenient because it is | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
pre-Revolutionary Russian. What about the mark there? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
That furry mark above - did you ever think about that one? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Well, I have been told what it could be. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Yes, and what did they tell you that it could be? | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
They said it could be Faberge. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
Well, it absolutely is Faberge. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
And it's Faberge written in Cyrillic | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
underneath the imperial arms of Nicholas and Alexandra. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
-And you bought it at a boot fair for how much? -£5. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-£5. Do you think you overdid it? -Yes. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Do you?! | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
I don't share that opinion actually, because it's perfect. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
It says everything about Faberge in this particular mood, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
and I think one should put it down for £2,500. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
-Goodness me! -> | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Gracious. Well, the best investment I've made recently! | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Certainly better than any investment I'VE ever made, I must say! | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
Absolutely magnificent view of Mont Blanc. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
Yes, it is lovely, isn't it? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-That's not just lovely, it's grand, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
I don't know it at all, I've been to Switzerland, I don't know that area, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
but friends of mine who do know it say that this valley is exactly the same now. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:03 | |
I don't think it's changed except it has lots of chalets dotted around on the hill. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
Oh, has it? Oh, yes. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
For rich people to ski from. But what we're standing on, as it were, is the Col de Balme, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
which is at the head of the Chamonix Valley looking west up the valley to Mont Blanc here. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:21 | |
It's signed and dated down here by William Collingwood Smith. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
-Yes, that's right, yes. -And it's dated 1860. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
I knew it was quite early, yes. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
-Yes, early. -Because it belonged to a | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
great aunt of mine and her husband, and I've known it all my life. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
I remember it in her house first, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
and then it was in my mother's before it came to me. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
Right, so you've grown up with it as well? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
I've grown up with it, yes, I know it well. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
It must have been a tremendously romantic thing to grow up with. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
Well, it is rather. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
Well, it's a big subject and it needs a big scale, and it really works. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-I just love this romantic cloud coming in here. -Yes. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Because that kind of sits on a temperature differential, doesn't it, the cloud? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
-It really does look like that, as if it's on mirror glass... -Yes. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
cutting the valley in half that way, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
-and gives a fantastic impression of scale down there. -Yes, it does, doesn't it? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
-And then whoosh up to the mountain at the end. -Up to the distance, yes. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
I've seen few pictures by him, but never anything so big, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-nor in such good condition. -Really? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
At any rate, the mountain itself was climbed in the 18th century. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:29 | |
-Yes. -So in 1780, some 80 years before this was painted, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:35 | |
but what's amusing is that 1860 | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
was the heyday of the British public's fascination | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
-with the Alps and everything to do with them. -Yes. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
So I must just tell you about Collingwood Smith's namesake. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
-Yes. -He was called Albert Smith, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
who, about eight years earlier than the painting was painted, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
climbed Mont Blanc. But Albert Smith was an absolutely appalling climber. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:01 | |
Well, he was jolly brave to go up there. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
He was very brave, but he was also very drunk. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Oh, dear, that's probably why. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
He had a glass of champagne every mile or so, going up the mountain. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
And in the end he was so completely insensible with cold and alcohol | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
because they didn't wear proper mountaineering clothes, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-they wore ordinary clothes. -Yes. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
He sort of passed out, and his guides had to chip steps in the ice | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
and pull him up on a rope, because he was almost unconscious, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
and when he finally got to the top, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
he only spent half an hour there, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
-enough time to drink quite a lot more champagne... -More champagne. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
..and passed out again, had to be | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
-carried back down the mountain. -Good gracious. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
-But Albert Smith kept a journal about it. -Yes. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
And Albert Smith found that the English were completely captivated | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
by the romance of the mountains, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
-and this picture is really painted on the back of that. -Yes. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
Anyway, it's completely splendid, a very difficult to value. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
-Have you ever even thought about it properly? -Not at all, haven't thought about it. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
I think I'd be crazy not to put eight, possibly more, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
thousand pounds on this picture. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
I had had no idea of what it was valued at. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
As I say, it was just a painting I'm very fond of. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
In olden days, a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
but for this week's collector, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
anything goes, because Rosemary Hawthorn | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
-is known officially as The Knicker Lady. -I am. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
I must ask you, how did you get into knickers? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-Professionally speaking? -Yes. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Well, Michael, the short answer is | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
that I was interested in fashion and costume - | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
very interested in it - | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
and...but I was particularly interested in underwear. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
I started to collect all sorts of underwear, and then kind of majored in knickers. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
But when did women start wearing knickers? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Well, surprisingly, it's really about a couple of hundred years ago. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
Up till then they didn't wear anything at all, they didn't bother. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
What is the oldest pair you have? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
The oldest pair I have, really, are pantalets, like these. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:09 | |
-Two separate legs blowing in the wind here. -All for one person? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
Yes! And the danger was the strings might become untied | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
and your could lose one of your leg ends. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
But they were made all of this sort of pure cotton? | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Lovely cotton or linen, and then they go on a few more years and we get to where - | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
that's sort of about 1800 or so - | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
and then we go onto the time of sort of Victoria's on the throne, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
and now they've had a rush of modesty, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
and they've joined up the waistband. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
These had braces, and they were known as "free-traders" | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
and "ever-readys". | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
I've just heard of "Alan Whickers", that's as far as it goes. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Oh, yeah, "Alan Whickers". | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Now, these belonged to Her Majesty Queen Victoria. | 0:24:54 | 0:25:00 | |
-Herself? -Herself. This pair have sat upon the English throne. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
-She was a small woman, I thought... -Well, I think | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
they are actually 45-and-a-half inches around the waistband, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
but there is a small cipher at the back, the royal... | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
-Very discreet, on the waistband at the back. -It says VR. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Yes, VR and a set number. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
Victoria Regina rules the waves. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Look at that. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
-Bless her heart. -But how on earth do you get these things? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
I mean, people don't bequeath their drawers, do they? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Well, no, there are one or two | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
people who have donated to collections. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
I've been collecting for more years than I care to remember, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
and as a clergy wife, you see, I have the pick of the jumble. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
So your husband is a vicar? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Well, he's now retired, but yes, he was a vicar. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Known as the...? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
-The Knicker Vicar. -Of course. -Yes. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
And besides that, on one occasion John found a bra, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
and it had been left in the holy water stoup in the church porch. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
So people are really eager to cast off their underclothes. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
-Sounds almost biblical, doesn't it? -It does. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
I have to say, it's quite extraordinary to see four 1966 World Cup tickets, including the final, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
all signed by what would appear to be the entire England team. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:30 | |
How on earth do you have that? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Well, I was fortunate that in September '91 | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
I took a team out to Singapore to play for a charity match. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Right, so this is this handsome bunch here. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Yes, this is me in the front here. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
-Oh, right. -I managed to get Kevin Keegan to come from Spain | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
before he started his manager upward career. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
-Right. -This is Tony Woodcock. -Ah-ha. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
This is Roger Hunt, Sir Bobby Charlton, Sir Geoff Hurst, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:02 | |
Gordon Banks, Pat Jennings, Mike England and Martin Peters. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
We played against an international Far East team for charity for the Children's Society of Singapore. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:15 | |
From then, just before that, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
my elder brother died in Canada. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
My sister-in-law passed me five tickets. She said, "I think Tony would like you to have these," | 0:27:24 | 0:27:31 | |
so they all very kindly signed them for me. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
These were old ticket stubs that your brother had kept. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
Yes, he went to see them, I was working in Nigeria at the time, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
-and then I was based in Singapore for a long time. -Right. -And I was... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
-Hence this. -Hence this. -Right. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
I mean, it is probably, certainly for English football, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
the defining moment in recent history, really. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
Any football collector, whether you're English or German, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
would absolutely love to have one of these. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Obviously the final is worth much more than the others signed, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
but it's difficult because it is quirky that they weren't signed at the time, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
they were signed later, but you do have all of them on it | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
-and of course that's not possible to do again now. -No. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
I think they're probably worth somewhere around £15,000 to £20,000. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:22 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
For the frame. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
Really? Well, I wouldn't sell them, I just come here to get the insurance value. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
-Yes. -Because I'm going to pass them on to my son. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
The exciting thing for me about the Roadshow is you never know what's coming out of the bags. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
And when you started to unwrap this from a plastic bag, my heart jumped | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
-because I think it's such a wonderful object. -Really? -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
Has it been in your family a long time, or have you just bought it? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
-Well, I think it was probably my mother-in-law's grandparents'. -Right. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:57 | |
And when my mother-in-law died, I inherited it. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
OK. Were they a farming family? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Yes, in Devon. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
-In Devon. -Yes. -Which part of Devon? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
-Not far from Bideford, I think. -Not far from Bideford. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
Well, this jug then has probably been in your family since it was made, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
because it was made very near Bideford. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
We can see it says E Fishley, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
and that's for a chap called Edwin Beer Fishley, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
who worked at Fremington in North Devon, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
and it's dated 1851 - so they're a North Devon farming family, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
and they've got this jug | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
which has these absolutely super farming motifs. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
It's done in a very naive sgraffito style, so it's been glazed | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
and then scratched through, just with the end of a piece of wood. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
-Really? -Or a pointed tool. And so you've got this prize bull, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
huge great chest, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
tiny little short legs. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
Then turning it round, the farming motifs continue. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
We've got, "Success to the farmer The plough and the flail | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
"Likewise to our commerce | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
"With peace in our Isles." | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
It's got everything, he's thrown the kitchen sink at this jug, fantastic. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:12 | |
-They're pretty scarce. -Yes. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
And if this appeared at auction, I would be there trying to buy it, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
and £3,000 wouldn't be enough. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
-Really? -Really. -Goodness. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
You'll need to insure the jug for £5,000. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
Well, chairs that have got this amount of repair | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
must have some sort of extraordinary history. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Why is all this like this? What's happened to these? | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
It's mainly because they've been through the Battle of Trafalgar. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
-What? Literally? -Literally, yes. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
These were the chairs in the Captain's cabin of the HMS Africa, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
which was one of the ships of line in Trafalgar. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
When was the ship built? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
I think it was built about seven to 10 years before. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
1798 or something like that? | 0:30:57 | 0:30:58 | |
-Yes. -So how many do you have? How many have survived? | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
It's a set of 12, and two of them are armchairs and 10 of them are chairs without arms. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:09 | |
Right, you can see all this repair. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
This is certainly very early repair here, all this. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
-That's probably the ship's blacksmith, I should think. -Yes. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
Clearly it must have been on the ship | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
and they'd have access to this sort of foundry work, fairly light, fairly basic blacksmith's work. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:27 | |
This repair is clearly 20th century which doesn't matter at all, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
it's just to replace that rail, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
but what's interesting, you say they are a set of 12, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
and we wonder how many have survived, but can you see just down there? | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
-Ah, yes. -14 in Roman numerals. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
-14. -Clearly there were more than 12. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-More than 12, yeah. -A couple have disappeared. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
We'll have a look around the house at home. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
So you've got 12 of these at home? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
That's absolutely amazing, it's... | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
I just can't get over the historical significance about these. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
So this has been inherited, been passed down over generations? | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
-Yes, it has, yes. -So what do you know about them as chairs? | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
Well, I really don't know anything specific about them as chairs | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
except the one burning question that we've always had is | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
whether in fact they came from his ship - | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
the Africa itself - when it was built. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
In other words they were actually made for the ship, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
or whether in fact they came from a Spanish ship or a French ship. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
-How about neither? -Or neither, or Dutch. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
-Well, you've got it. They're Dutch. -Is that right? | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
-They're Dutch. -Oh, amazing! | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
That's why I was so interested to know when the ship was made. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
-I've dated these to 1790-1800... -Right. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
..regardless of any history that you know about them, which is fantastic. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
I'd be interested to see if there are | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Admiralty records of that besides. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
Was this ship commissioned with Dutch furniture? | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Was there a particular Dutch dealer who was rather active at the time in 1790-1798? | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
So how do we value something so historic? | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
I take the view that the value is really in the history | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
and the personal belongings side of it, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
so it seems to me it's not really something that you could put a value on. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
-OK, well, as a historian, I'm happy with that. -Yeah. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
Thank you very much, absolutely amazing. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Have you ever had this looked at? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
I took it into a shop once | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
and they said that they thought it was probably worth perhaps £100, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
but I ought to get it looked at by such as yourself, to get a value. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
You would like to know the value? | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Well, I think it is for me something that really appeals. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
This reminds me of when I wake up in the morning, I have a big fig tree in my garden full of birds, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:32 | |
but I don't see little things like these parakeets | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
which are absolutely beautifully done, with their little pink cheeks. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
What's so nice about this is you've got all the shading in the leaf, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
which is extraordinary when you think this is actually made of bronze. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
It's bronze, bronze birds, bronze leaves, cold painted. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
One factory comes to mind when you look at something like this, which is the Bergman factory. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:57 | |
Now, normally things like this - you'd expect it to be marked. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
If you turn it upside down, there is a mark, and many people fall into the trap here. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
-All this says is, "Patent applied for." -Oh, right. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
So that's not the mark. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
And Bergman things are very collectable. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
-Yes. -This has got all that appeal, it's got real sex appeal in my view. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
Well, I think there are many people who would like something like this, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
the vibrancy, the sheer delight of it. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
And a conservative estimate for this would be somewhere in the region of £1,200 to £1,500. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
-Really? Gosh, that's a bit more than £100, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
Now this is a great moment for me because I love postcards. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
I'm not a collector, but I find them irresistible | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
because they are moments of time captured for ever. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
Now, are you the postcard collector? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
No, they're not mine, they were my brother's. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
When he died, he passed them on to my daughter. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
-So she owns them? -Yes, she does. -Lucky girl. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
What was his interest? | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
He collected postcards for many, many years | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
and he just liked to have any subject within local history, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
-or Burnham and Highbridge. -What started him? | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
I think it was just purely he was a great historian, he loved history. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
-Right. -Postcards were one of the easiest and cheapest things to buy. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
Well, they are wonderful moments of history, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
-so we've got here obviously albums containing, I presume, local views. -Yes. -How many did he collect? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:24 | |
Um, it must be nearly 10,000, I should think. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
Gosh. Where are they all now? | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
All in albums at the moment. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
Right. I love them because, as I say, they are absolutely history as it was lived. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
This pile out of the album, let's look at these. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
Most postcards are worth very little money, they're local views, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
they're interesting to people who live there, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
but they don't say anything to the world as a whole. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
Once you get early delivery vans with those boys posing, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
suddenly that moment, in whenever it was, 1910, suddenly comes to life. | 0:35:54 | 0:36:00 | |
Now there we've got a mining one, the Somerset coalfield, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
but there we see the simplicity, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
the basic-ness of that sort of style of mining, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
again early in the 20th century. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Early flying, Martock, 1911. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
Pioneer aviation, and again with a local reference. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
This is what I like, we're really absolutely here and now. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Now, isn't that great?! | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
"Captain Milles' educated dogs, almost human." | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
"The Italian Circ. Burnham on Sea". | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
Those sort of cards are just great, they're never to be repeated. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
Um, he's got thousands like that. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
-Very much so. -Very much so. Now you must be aware that some of these cost quite a lot of money. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
I'm aware some of them are, yes. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
There are cards here that will be worth £100. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
There are cards that will be worth £50, there are lots of cards worth £10 and £20. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
If you've got 10,000 local history cards like this, if you take an average of £10 a card, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:58 | |
-you know, that's...£100,000. -Yeah. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
Well, we have an alcove each and three crackers between us. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
Where did you get these wonderful nutcrackers from? | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
These were acquired by my father. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
He was an avid collector of antiques and this would have been in the late '40s and early '50s, after the war. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:19 | |
Did he have a thing about nuts? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
-He did indeed. -He must have had a sense of humour as well. -I think so, yes, yes. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
-He mostly collected Oriental antiques but these obviously appealed to him. -Absolutely. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
Now this one's made of walnut. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
-Yes. -And it's a wonderfully carved ape's head wearing a mob cap. -Right. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
-It's almost certainly German. -Is it? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
The eyes are real glass, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
and they've been sort of inset into the well-carved features. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
-Yes. -And it might interest you to know that at auction, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
I would put an estimate of between £300 and £500 on that one. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Really? That surprises me, I wouldn't have thought... | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
-That's a pleasant surprise. -Absolutely, well, let's move on, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
because this one is even finer quality than that one. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
-Yes, indeed. -This is carved from cherry wood, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
and this gentleman has the most wonderful walrus moustache. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:10 | |
All things considered, he's from the 1880s. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
-Right. -He would be worth at auction between £400 and £600. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
-Really? -Oh, yes, but it's this one that really took my heart. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
-Yes. -This lovely Bavarian carved example is a rabbit's head. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
I love it, it's got little sideburns. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Look at those eyes, really magical. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
People go mad for these, and I would have no hesitation | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
-of putting this in at £600 to £800. -Really? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
-So you've got a lot of value in just three nutcrackers. -Indeed. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
-Quite amazing, isn't it? -You're very lucky. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
Well, we're sitting in a garden, and in a way this is a little | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
celestial garden that you've brought to me today, isn't it? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
Where did these wonderful jewels come from? | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Well, that was left to me by my mother. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Through my mother from her mother, so I know where that came from. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
-But when our mother died... This is my sister here. -Mm-hmm. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
..we went through various little boxes | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
and things of nothing in particular, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
and we each had a choice, and this was my choice. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
I don't even know if it's real. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
We never saw it, my mother never wore it, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
and my father didn't know where it came from, never seen it before. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
My goodness! Well, it certainly is real. It's a most fascinating jewel. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
There was a huge revival for | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
everything 18th century in the 19th century, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
and to all intents and purposes | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
the use of the enamel, the use of the gem setting, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
the whole composition, is inspired by 18th-century France. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
But we can say with absolute confidence | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
that this ISN'T an 18th-century jewel, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
it's an 18th-century revival one, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
and blue enamel, diamonds, a little ruby in the front... | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Turn it over and there's tightly-fitting locket at the back, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
but one would be able to remove that and put a photograph or a lock of hair in there. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
Have you worn it? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:02 | |
I do, I do wear it, and I love it. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
Good, that's marvellous. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
So you love your jewellery - what do | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
you feel when you wear the jewellery? | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
-I think a sort of regal, I think... Yes. -Do you think it makes you...? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:17 | |
Yes, well, that's fantastic, it's | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
a sort of shot in the arm, or a shot somewhere anyway - with jewellery. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Now tell me about this one, this is a most extraordinary bug, isn't it? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
It's almost a bug that's been living | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
too close to Sizewell B, he's gone all blue and shiny, hasn't he? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
He's wonderful. I've always thought | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
it was actually bought for my grandmother. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
-And what date would that might have been? -Er, 18...? | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
-1890s. -Yes. -Well, that's absolutely perfect | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
because one CAN look at jewellery, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
and it IS dated, and dated by design, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
and that's what we really look for, actually. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
This is a superb gem-set bumble-bee brooch, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
or at least a bee brooch - and a Victorian one. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
But actually, thanks to the box, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
which has been rather carefully preserved, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
we know perfectly well that it was | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
made by a firm called LaCloche Freres. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
-It's difficult to decipher. -Isn't it? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
But it's absolutely there and a very distinguished firm | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
running in competition with Cartier, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
so there's a maker | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
for a superb gem-set bumble bee. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
The thing about the bumble bees is that they are a message, in a way - | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
it's a bee, and with the pin, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
it's "bee sure". | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
I know, it's rather sort of corny, in a way, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
but it's even more corny when | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
the thing's rather conspicuously valuable, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
because the body is made up of rather | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
silky-looking Ceylon sapphire, isn't it? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
Although not the most intense colour, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
it's a very, very pleasing colour, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
and very nice bright diamonds | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
and rather menacing little ruby eyes. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
And furry feet and antennae and things. Any ideas of value? | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
Well, I know that Pa had that valued at about £4,000. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
And that, well, we didn't even know it was real so... | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
No, no, so that's up for grabs, isn't it? | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
My goodness. Well, £4,000, that's a little while ago, because | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
I think that's a very desirable thing, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
it's very concentrated, it's very animated, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
it's by a superb maker, and everybody wants this thing. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
Honestly they do. And value is to do with | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
-measured want - that's all that value is. -Yes. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
And I'm going to tell you that in measured want, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
that that's £10,000. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
Good God! | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
And measured want again here - not off the hook quite yet. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
Not quite the same gasp-making figure, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
but quite enough at, erm, say, £4,500, £5,000. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
That's very gasp, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
if you think that it was sort of loose, and Ma never wore it. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
-Well, superb, thank you very much. -Thank you, lovely. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Well, I think we all agree that went with a bang, which is quite apt, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
as the man who built Montacute House | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
opened for the prosecution in the trial of Guy Fawkes. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
There are more interesting facts where that came from, and I shall | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
let you have them on our return trip to Montacute House, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
which will be very soon. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:17 | |
Until then, from Somerset, goodbye. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 |