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Welcome back to magnificent Montacute House in Somerset. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
On our last visit, we saw the place through the eyes of the characters | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
in Sense And Sensibility, but the real-life residents | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
of Montacute and what happened here would certainly have caught Jane Austen's imagination. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
The Phelips family were separated from their fine ancestral home | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
in 1911 - reckless gambling, mental illness and sheer misfortune | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
all played their part. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
A number of tenants followed, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
including Lord Curzon, a former Viceroy of India. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
He pointed out the decayed state of Montacute and had the rent reduced, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
agreeing to install electric light and to redecorate at his own cost. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
This task he entrusted to his mistress, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
prolific writer Elinor Glyn, the woman who coined the term "it" | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
as a 1920s euphemism for sex appeal. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Elinor's notoriety was enhanced by her eccentric ways | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
and a fondness for exotic furs. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
The furs came in handy as she endured arctic conditions, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
climbing up ladders in large unheated rooms like this long gallery. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
At a staggering 172ft, it's the | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
longest of its kind to survive and it's been through the wars. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
Locals remember ponies being | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
exercised here, which is rather surprising because... | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
we're on the second floor! | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
One morning, alone at breakfast, Eleanor came across a notice in | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
the Times announcing the engagement of Lord Curzon to Mrs Alfred Duggan. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
This, it has to be said, came as a bit of a shock. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
Curzon offered not a word of explanation. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Elinor left Montacute at once and burned nearly 500 of his letters, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
in the process destroying any evidence of their detailed plans for Montacute. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
Four years after Curzon's death in 1925, the lease expired. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
The house was valued at £5,882 | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
for scrap and put on the market, where it lingered for two years. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
It was eventually saved from demolition | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
and presented to the National Trust. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
And today, as so often, they are the Roadshow's hosts. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
A little model of a kneeling camel, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
but when you look at the head there forming a spout | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
and here's a handle, of course, it's a teapot, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
but what a bizarre teapot it is. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
What do you know about it? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
Well, I remember it from my early childhood. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
It belonged to my Aunt Annie who was born in 1860. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
-Oh, right. -And so I knew her in the 1950s, it was in her house. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
I suppose actually, I couldn't really imagine... | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
How do you use it for tea? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Supposing you're going to pour it from the handle, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
there's the little lid, and it's nice having the lid remaining with it | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
and inside you put your fine tea leaves. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Imagine putting the water in there and trying to pour it out through the spout. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-Do you think they ever used it? -I can't imagine they would, would you? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-I wouldn't have thought so. -But of course it's... | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
I mean in theory this is a functional teapot and really quite | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
an early teapot because we think of | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
novelty teapots, silly teapots, being perhaps a 1930s idea, but they | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
started way, way back and this was made somewhere round about 1745-1750. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
-As early as that? -So, back in the middle of the 18th century... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Yes. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
..when a design like this was really quite outrageous, it was totally new, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
totally stunning design, made in the Staffordshire Potteries. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
You've got a piece here of English salt-glaze. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
-Oh, right. -And salt-glaze is a very difficult material to make and cast. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
You glaze it by literally throwing salt into the kiln and it forms a | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
hard surface reacting with the clay and it's very durable, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
it lasts a long time, but it shows the modelling quite well underneath. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
Here we've got the work, probably of a potter - Thomas and John Wedgwood. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
-Oh. -Some of the early Wedgwood family, started out making these | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
salt-glazed teapots around 1750. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
So, what is the design? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
On the howdah here that he's wearing, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
there is some sort of strange Oriental temple I suppose that is. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
What strikes me holding it is how light it is. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
-Yes, yes. -Incredibly thin and light, it really is. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
And that is really to me the star piece because it's still here. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
So rarely do we find camel teapots | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and other thin teapots like these, I haven't seen many of them, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
but to find one with its top as well and fitting so well... | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
So, it's really quite a special piece of rare pottery and | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
think in terms of a value about... | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
..£7,000. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
Blimey... | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
that's a lot. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
-Did you buy this? -Yes. -When did you buy it? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
The late '60s, in the late '60s, and my husband and I went to | 0:05:30 | 0:05:37 | |
an antique show in Kent and while we there I saw this | 0:05:37 | 0:05:43 | |
and, being an amateur sewer, this was very important to me, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
but... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
..it was quite expensive for me. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
We were courting at the time | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
and my husband very kindly bought it for me. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
Oh, right, well, I must ask in that case, how much did it cost? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
£35. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
What was that as a proportion of income then? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Well, my income at that time was £9.50 a week, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
so it was about a month's salary. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
That's quite something, isn't it, to think of that, a month's salary | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
going to this? But this... I presume | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
you know by now, having handled it for 40 years, what this is made of? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
We think it's an antelope horn. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Yes, exactly, exactly - and I can date it relatively easily. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
You get the same sort of thing in England in the 1810-1820 period | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
and I always think that Indian things are probably | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
10-20 years behind time, so let's say 1820-1840, that sort of date. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
So, inside, we're going to find | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
what we call now the typical Indian interior here, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
ivory with sandalwood, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
this lovely, lovely, it's a wonderful smooth wood, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
very, very well polished. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
It's lovely to touch, very tactile. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
It's quite a luxury item, you've got... | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
I won't play with all the toys, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
You've got a tape measure there which is so sweet! | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
I said I won't play with it, I'm going to now! It's so sweet. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
I love that, and all the sort of little things for a lady's | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
necessaire, but do you use it today? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
No, I'm afraid I just keep it so that it doesn't get spoilt. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
But did you ever use it? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
-No. -So he bought it for you, all that money, and all that long ago and you've never used it? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-But it's too good to use. -So, are you going to keep it? -Oh, yes. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
-Even if I tell you what it's worth today, you're going to hang onto it? -Oh, yes. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
Well, today it's worth at least £1,000. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
That was a good bit of investment, wasn't it? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-Sounds like a good relationship! -Yes. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
Now, what is Clare Leighton to you? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
Well, it must have been, I would imagine, in the late 1970s. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
I was in a bookshop, always had a love of books, and | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
picked up the Four Hedges book, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
didn't appreciate the significance | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
of it at the time but, when I started looking into her work, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:05 | |
I realised how powerful and how significant her images were. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
But was it just her, or wood engraving as a whole? | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
Wood engraving as a whole. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
I was particularly struck by the... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Around the '20s and '30s, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
there seemed to be a plethora of female wood engravers, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
people like Agnes Miller-Parker, Joan Hassall, Gertrude Hermes... | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
But I suppose, to me, Agnes Miller-Parker perhaps finer in detail, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-but I just like the absolute power of Clare Leighton's work. -They're very strong, aren't they? -They are. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
I think that's what appealed to me, as I say, the Four Hedges I certainly | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
knew when I was very young, I've still got a couple of copies of it. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Yes, that's my favourite book because I'm a gardener. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
-Oh, well, it's perfect for you. -You know, I love gardening. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
This is, in a sense, as it says, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
it's The Gardener's Season, so she was a gardener, and so | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
as one goes through the book you find this mixture of beautifully drawn... | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-They are, yes. -..and then wonderful scenes like that of... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
And what has gone in to make that picture is always | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
behind, you know, wonderful skill. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Yes, it's the skill of the engraving | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
of the wood, but it's also the strong, rich contrast | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
between the black and white and I think that's why wood engraving appealed so much. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
She was a very determined woman, she wrote her own books, she'd engrave | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
books as illustrator for other publishers. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
Erm, emigrated to America in 1939, she became an American citizen in | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-1945 and lived the rest of her life there until she died in 1989. -Yes. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
And when she was in America of course | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
she could take further this ruralist, this strong country tradition. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-Typical I think are these Wedgwood plates. -Yes. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
Now these are a set of 12, isn't it? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-Yes. -Produced by Wedgwood in the early 1950s, the basic industries | 0:09:54 | 0:10:00 | |
of New England, and it's things like the grist mill, erm, ice cutting, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:07 | |
it's a whole range of rural industries and, of course, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
we're at a period when there was a romance about these, many of them | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
were disappearing, mechanisation was taking over and I think her voice is | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
not saying, "Gosh," you know, "it's all going to be awful." | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
She's simply saying, "This is what we have, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
-"let's record it, let's remember it all." -Yes. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Now, what do you pay for things like this? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
If we go back to the first book, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
-erm, I probably paid I think about £2 or £3 for it. -Yes. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Back in 1977. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
And now what are you paying? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Because there is a greater awareness I think of her work | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-I tend to pay more. The plates probably about 20 or 30 each. -Yes. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
Which is not much and also the difficulty is, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
you don't get them very often in the UK. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-No. Because they were made for the American market. -Yes. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
I mean, as you know, I mean you're probably as au fait with | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
values as I am, you know, a good signed edition like that is | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
probably going to be about £100, possibly more, the plates, as you | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
say, can be bought for £10-£15 each and this is great collecting | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
and I think you've done very well, I'm very envious of some of these. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Well, a relative had died in the family and we were left the house, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
it was left to me parents at that time, and, er, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
when you're youngsters, you go out into the back garden and you start | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
digging stuff up and playing around and, erm, I found that along with | 0:11:32 | 0:11:38 | |
various other pieces of silver, and it was all in the back garden. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
-Just buried? -Just buried in the back garden, yeah, but it turned out that | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
my great-grandparents were actually some form of antique dealers | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
and stuff like that, but I think they went a bit eccentric, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
come the end, and... and just put it in the garden. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Good heavens! What a wonderful story! | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
-Yeah. -And how old were you at the time? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
I must have been about 15, 16, I would say. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Right, and did you then clean it up yourself? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
I had a bit of a go at it, yeah, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
and it's been basically in a box and it's moved from one garage to | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
another garage over the years and then I've been meaning to come to an Antiques Roadshow for many years. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:17 | |
Well, you can probably tell by what's engraved at the bottom here - | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
"Brandy" - that it comes under | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
the general name of a wine label, even though it's actually a spirit. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
-Yes. -But what you might not know is, this is one of the rarest wine labels I have ever seen. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
-Mmm. -In fact it might well be unique. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Not only that, it's beautifully marked on the front here, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
it's got a date letter here for 1838, it's got a maker's mark over here, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
"WE" for William Elliott. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
-Right. -But I think one of the nicest features of all | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
is that, if we turn it round, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
on the back here, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
actually got the name of the ship, the "Blenheim", and "60 guns". | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
-Right. -Have you made any attempt to find out...? -I haven't, no. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
No, I should think if you contacted the National Maritime Museum or | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
some institution like that, you'd get a pretty good idea to find out what | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
this ship was and if it was involved in any major engagements. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
-Can you imagine if it was involved in Trafalgar or something...? -Well, yeah. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
It would be a very different object altogether. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
As it is, this is a very, very special piece. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-Right. -Very special. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
It could well be a one-off wine label. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
It's not a converted piece because - do you notice at the bottom, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
the sea is actually cut away? | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-Yeah. -Where they've left a space for the name to be engraved. -Right. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I presume from the age of 15 onwards you've never had it checked out. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
I haven't, no, it's just... | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
I just imagined it went | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
on a decanter and it would have been like brandy, maybe port or something like that | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
and there were probably four of them there. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
-Possibly. -And that was one of the four, that's what was in my head. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-Quite, quite possibly. -I've never done any research into it. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
-Well, I think you might need a big swig of brandy in a moment. -Right. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
I think this is worth between £3,000 and £4,000. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
This is any collector's dream. It is an absolutely must-have wine label. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
Well, what a fantastic clock! | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
I'm sure, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
I'm positive that a clock like this must have a fascinating history. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Yeah, I've been given a letter by my mother-in-law which details | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
the history quite comprehensively and we believe that it was gifted | 0:14:31 | 0:14:37 | |
to my late husband's grandmother. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
-Right. -By one of Carl Faberge's sons. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Carl Faberge, the famous Russian jeweller? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Yes. And it was brought to London from Russia, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
prior to its being given to her. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
So, Carl Faberge must have...his son must have settled in London and... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:57 | |
We believe so, yeah, and he was about to move | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
house and didn't have room for it. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
That would explain how a clock like this came over to England. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Well, it all figures, it makes perfect sense because | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
it is... I've been doing clocks for an awful long time, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
and it is a difficult clock to place. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
It's only when you take the movement out | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
that you realise that it is in fact made in Russia. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
And I have had a word with Christopher Payne | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
in the furniture side, and he tells me that this is birch wood. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
-Right. -Which is harvested from the Karelian Forest in the Baltic | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
and it looks exactly like mahogany. I could have sworn it was mahogany | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
but Christopher tells me absolutely not. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
We wondered if it was German. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Well, it does have a very German overtone, this architectural pediment | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
and this lovely reeded decoration, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
this is absolutely lovely, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-but it is in fact almost certainly made in Russia. -Right. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
What I love about this case, what is really special, is the way, although | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
it's quite a crude construction, it has one secret little catch to it. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
If you press this button on the top here, it releases the door | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
and it's beautifully made and it just releases, away it goes. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
And in order to get it back, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
you put it gently back in there | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
and click, straight back into place, beautifully made. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
It's probably, it's the best part of the whole case, it's lovely. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
We've got a gilt metal bezel that goes around the dial | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
and what we call a regulator dial, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
where the seconds, minutes and hours are all separated out, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
-and was most often used for astronomical observation. -Right. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
People who observed the stars needed to know the exact time keeping. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
What they really wanted to know was the position of a star | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
going from one point to the next and they timed the star | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
going from one point to the next using a regulator. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
And I suspect that this clock, being in a very flashy case, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
was probably used by either an amateur astronomer | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
or it could have been the house regulator. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
It would have been the clock in the house that told the most perfect time. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
As you walked out of the front door, you took out your pocket watch, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
checked the time from the best quality time keeper in the house, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
corrected your watch and strode off to work. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
They were very expensive clocks to buy at the time, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
around 1840, that sort of period. Value is extremely difficult. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Um...I've never had to value one before. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Have you got it insured? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
No! | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-No. -Well, many times people don't have them insured. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
I think it's fantastic, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
and I can see that at auction it could easily fetch... | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
Because the Russian market has gone from richer to richer | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
and there's an awful lot of Russian money around at the moment, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
I can see this clock fetching anywhere between £10,000 and £15,000. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
-Right. -So, you need to take good care of it. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Insurance, you probably ought to insure it | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
-for as much as £20,000-£25,000. -Yeah. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
These give the impression of not having been assembled recently. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
No, I've inherited them from my parents who inherited them | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
from my mother's aunt. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
-Right, so you... -So, that would have been in the '20s and '30s. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Good time to be buying. A lot of good things were available then. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
Yes, I think they were lucky. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
-So, you've got them at home? -Yes. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
Must be quite difficult housing them! | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
I mean, these are not sort of little dishes, are they? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
We've got these on the top of quite a big buffet. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
-Oh, right. -And the rest are scattered round the house. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Right. OK. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
There is one that sticks out | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
as not belonging to the rest. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Which is it? | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
Erm, I would imagine this one. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
Wrong. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
They're all Chinese... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
-except that one. -Ah. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
-That's Japanese. -Ah. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
That is Seto porcelain. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
That dates from around 1880, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
and that would fetch | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
somewhere in the region of £300 to £400. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Now, in the 18th century, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
Chinese porcelain was flooding into Europe in huge quantities, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
brought over by the East India Companies. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
What the East India Companies liked... | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
..were objects like that, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
because this is heavy | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and you can pack it tight | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
in the bottom of the ship, right? | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
So, square objects - good news. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Bad news - complex objects like teapots. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
And even more bad news - huge objects like that. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
But these are extraordinary. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
These dishes would probably have come with a dinner service, | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
but were not part of it | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
in the sense that they would have been used. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
They were buffet dishes, just as you've got them, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
you're doing exactly the right thing, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
you've got them on a buffet, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
-they are for display, they're to show how wealthy you are. -Right. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
Because you invite your smart friends in to dinner | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
and they come in and they say, "Wow, look at the size of those dishes!" | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
And they know you've paid a huge amount of money for them. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Because to get these landed in England in good condition | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
in the 18th century... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
And I say 18th century, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
I mean, we're talking about 1745-1755 for these. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
..was not easy. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
In fact, that one is cracked, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
but this one is in good condition. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
Do you know, that's fascinating. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Rule of thumb... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
if you've got spur marks | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
where the thing was fired on the bottom of a dish, it's Japanese. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Oh, right. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-You don't get them on Chinese. -Ah. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
But this one was so large, they had to put spur marks on, otherwise it | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
would have sunk in the kiln, so here is an exception to the rule, but that | 0:21:11 | 0:21:17 | |
red colour - absolutely characteristic of Chinese. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
So, you've got a pair of dishes, one with a slight crack | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
but the other perfect, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
which is extremely unusual. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
I've got a feeling that if those were in auction, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
you'd be looking at... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
£3,000-£4,000. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
Good grief! | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Well, I've seen people arrive at Antiques Roadshows | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
on a lot of different types of machine, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
but this takes the biscuit, it's wonderful. Tell me what she is. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
It's a 1901 Locomobile steam car. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
She's just glorious. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Listen to that, a whisper, nothing in the background practically. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
Now, are you the proud restorer of this machine? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
No, I regret I can't claim restoring it, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
but I bought it because somebody rang me up and said, "Would you like to buy a steam car?" | 0:22:15 | 0:22:21 | |
-So what does one do, but buy a steam car? -Absolutely. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
Well, I remember steam cars, I used to do the London to Brighton rally in a previous life | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
and I was driven on a 1902 Pannard Lavasser and this thing | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
-always broke down and do you know what always sailed past? -A steam car. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-A blooming steam car! -Of course. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
And it was so infuriating, but I think looking at this machine, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
listening to it, knowing what it runs on - it runs | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
on water with a little bit of petrol and that's it. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
It's the solution really to all our transport problems, isn't it? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Provided we're happy to go just a little bit slower. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
It is because even with a petrol fuel, the combustion is so much better, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
you don't get the nitrous oxide you get with these internal combustion engines. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
-Exactly, exactly. -So you don't have that, you don't have the noise, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
you can drive along with this at 20-25 miles an hour if you're brave, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
and you can hear the birds singing in the hedges. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
-It's wonderful. -I can demonstrate if you so wish. -That would be fantastic. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
I tell you, I live in the Midlands, so we ought to set off fairly soon! | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
The quality of this carving is absolutely wonderful. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
-What's her name? -O Mimosasan. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
Right, and her history? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Her history is that she came from an aunt by marriage | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
who was in love with China, and all things Chinese | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
so when her husband was posted to | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Hong Kong, it was just a superb gift and she collected all sorts of bits | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
and pieces, some from a more senior officer who admired her greatly | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
and others she collected herself. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
-So, she was a China fan? -She was a China fan. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
And she gave her a Japanese name? | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
I don't know, you're the expert, you must tell me. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
-She is Japanese. -She is? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
-She is. -I wondered whether she was. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
The Japanese at this time, what, 1900-1910...? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
About 1920 they were out there, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't bought earlier. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
Well, I would say it could have been carved certainly as early as 1900. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
1920 - it's unlikely. By then the quality was really | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
going down, but this is superb and it's so superb that the artist has | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
actually of course signed underneath. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
I can't read that because it's in a grass script, but it is beautiful, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
a beautiful piece of carving. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
I know, you can study her for hours and it's just exquisite. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
But the icing on the cake is really the fact that she's | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
been inlaid with these little pieces of mother of pearl. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
At some stage someone's done a bit of a repair job. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
These have been glued back in. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
-Yes, not very well, I'm afraid. -Is that you? -Certainly not. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Er, this is, erm, a technique which we generically call shibayama | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
technique and it is very, very good, especially on the back of the obi | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
at the back of the costume, you've a little bit of a loss there. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
So she is Japanese, not Chinese, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
and she is worth somewhere in the region of, I guess, £400 to £500. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
Oh, right. Oh, that's lovely. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
So, here's a painting by Jacob Jacob. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
I hope I've pronounced that right - probably not. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
Dutch, 1844, and it's signed down here by... | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
Well, it's like "Jacob Jacob". | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
I like this little white sign here where they've called him | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
"Yacoob Yacoob", Anglicising it. It's Antwerp. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
It's lovely, isn't it? | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Yes, it was hung on my husband's parents' dining room wall | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
for a very long time and then | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
we were lucky enough to be given it | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
about 12, 13 years ago. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
Yes, I see. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
It has this lovely light in it. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
It's sort of aqueous that light. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I was looking for a word | 0:25:56 | 0:25:57 | |
and aqueous I thought just had it. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
It's like a very thin line of buildings across there, it's a bit | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
like some artists paint Venice, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
or more appropriately Petersburg. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Because this artist spent time in the Baltic and it seems to me to have a rather sort of Danish feel to it. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:14 | |
I love the way that light plays on it as well, especially in the foreground where it's quite golden | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
and then it gets cooler and cooler as it goes into the distance. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Because it's got such a low line of buildings, you get this sense | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
of sweeping right back into the far, far distance, that works very well. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
No, it's a really lovely thing and you've also brought along | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
this other picture here. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
We'll move over there and have a look at that. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Now this is him somewhere else altogether. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
I just love the juxtaposition of | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
the two pictures because here he is in the near East, he's gone to Egypt | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
and again he's drawn on this library in his mind, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
I think, and painted it in a very Italianate way with these golden | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
Italianate colours, a bit like the French artist Claude Lorraine, with | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
this wonderful sort of sunset going on and this romantic picturesqueness, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
but I don't think Egypt really looks like that. What do you think? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
Well, I've never been to Egypt and it is how I always thought | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Egypt would be, very romantic and with lovely | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
architectural, archaeological features, but I don't know Egypt. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
Yes, well, I confess I don't either, but I know this... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
-It's got its palm tree. -Yes, it's certainly that, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
but it has got this very Italianate way of looking at it. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
I suppose being in the family for so long you've never valued them | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
-No. -No thoughts of that at all? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Well, it's never been really important | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
because we've just always loved having them | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
and I know my in-laws loved having them, too. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Yes, yes, well, I'm, you know... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
a picture this size by this artist would typically fetch about £8,000. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Would it? | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
Yes, but again it's bringing a kind of Western way of painting, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
it seems to me, to Egypt. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
Other painters went to Egypt and painted exactly what they saw, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
no frills. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
I think that he's been... if we go back to this painting... | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
..rather more honest in a sense | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
because this is his homeland and I think he's | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
found it easier to depict it and it's much more effective in that way. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
Certainly it has got more resonance for me and probably for the market, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
worth about £15,000, I think. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Gosh! | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
-I'm a bookbinder, that's my hobby. -Right. -And whenever I see a piece of leather | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
with tooling on it, I get kind of excited. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
And that's exactly the kind of box | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
or case that really you think, "What am I going to find inside there?" | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
"It's got to be something good," so, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
up come the hooks... | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
And we have a little glass inside, nicely cut, wheel-cut | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
with a diaper pattern, pearls with a crown above an "A"- who dat?! | 0:29:02 | 0:29:09 | |
Well, my great-grandfather, who obtained it in Paris, I think | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
around 1867, said that it was Marie Antoinette's, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
but I've since had it looked at by somebody who said the cipher's not hers. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
-It isn't. -It's somebody else's. -It isn't Marie Antoinette. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
This is a real bit of social history. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
Why do you have a glass in a leather case? | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
And of course... Do you know? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Well, to protect it while it was travelling. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
She took it in rough riding coaches you know, very hard springs. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
-Everything would have been thrown around. -They were travelling the whole time | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
and they were pulling up into inns | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
and the inn had got no cutlery, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
it had got no glasses, it had got no bedding... | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
Well, it probably had got bedding but it was a straw palliasse, and unless | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
you wanted to scratch all the next day, you brought your own bedding. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
There was a retinue going on for ever with these people as they | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
travelled round and yes, that was exactly why you had a case. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:13 | |
I think it might never be possible to track down whose this was. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
-Yes. -But it might be. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
I think it's a jolly nice little thing, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
it's a sophisticated little bit of glass-making and I think that would | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
probably sell, depending again on who it turns out to be, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
somewhere around £700 to £1,000. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
This big red book seems to have been through the wars. What's the story? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
Well, it has to some degree. It came out of my great-great-grandfather's | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
ship, the Africa, which was involved in Trafalgar and it was actually | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
in the bookcase in his cabin when one of the cannonballs came more or less through the | 0:30:52 | 0:30:58 | |
porthole and smashed the bookcase and it crumpled and smashed the top | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
of the book itself and because a cannonball in those days was a | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
very, very hot object coming through, I think this is one | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
of the reasons why the leather has got so, so pitted and so on. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
And the inscription that it's | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
actually got inside it tells you what actually happened on that day. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
It says that, "This book was shivered in this manner by a shot | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
"knocking to pieces the bookcase in the Battle of Cape Trafalgar, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
"October 21st 1805 on board The Africa, 64 guns, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:36 | |
"signed Henry Digby." | 0:31:36 | 0:31:37 | |
This is wonderful stuff. What is the book itself? | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Well, the book itself - we always assumed that it was some sort of | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
weighty tome on the Battle of the Nile and how it was fought and everything else | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
and my father the other day decided he'd read through it | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
and it's actually entitled "The Memoirs of the Compte de Grammont". | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
It turns out that this is actually the equivalent of Lady Chatterley's Lover of the time | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
and so I think we could almost say that | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
this is 18th-century pornography. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
-A little... -Very useful in the Captain's cabin, I'm sure. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
-Yes, a little bedside reading. -Yes. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
-We'll keep the inscription and close the leaf. -Thank you. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
Luckily for me, they brought this | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
to me because it's furniture, at least it's small furniture. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
It's bigger than treen - or it doesn't quite fit into that. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
It's carved wood in the most wonderful style, a mystery object so far. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
I want to look at the stand in more detail, so tell me what you think it is anyway. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
It's just got a bit of black glass in there, so... | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
I have no idea, I've asked | 0:32:39 | 0:32:40 | |
lots of people for several years and they have no idea what it is. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
-Really? -I brought it along today to see you could throw any light on it. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
I'm very glad you did. How did you find it? Where did you find it? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
It was in a box of goodies that belonged to my former husband and I've just had it restored. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
Well, whoever did it is to be commended because he did | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
a first class job. It's what I would call sympathetic restoration, but the | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
fineness of this is reminiscent of the Bushey School of Art. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
Herkomer is the man responsible for leading that movement, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
and we look under here, these lovely big fat fleshy leaves which are | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
beautifully carved, look at the kick in that scroll. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
When you come down here, you've got this sort of Tudoresque style | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
with the finest possible little flowers, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
and each of those panels is different. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
I mean absolutely charming. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Somebody might have suggested, because this is black glass, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
that it might be for looking at eclipses, but in fact | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
it's a "Claude glass" | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
named after Claude Lorrain, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
the artist, OK, and it is for an artist to hold up | 0:33:45 | 0:33:51 | |
to create the view of his picture. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
It's an illusionary thing. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
-Gosh. -And if you, if you look in here, can you see? | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
-Yes. -Now can you see the background, can you see the trees? -Yes. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
Now there's a perfect oil painting | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
and that's what he would have in his mind to paint. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
It clarified the vision. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Fabulously interesting, beautiful object, just wonderful! | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
-There, there it is, mystery object solved. -Wonderful. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
Now, value-wise, very difficult. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
Its value wouldn't relate to its extreme rarity and interest, but to | 0:34:27 | 0:34:32 | |
a collector today, anything between £800 and £1,200 - that sort of price. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:38 | |
-Gosh. -Oh, yes, I know, I've got four people | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
lined up here who'd like to buy it. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
This is so exciting for these to turn up today. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
EHS - Ernest Howard Sheppard - | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
an obvious-looking Owlie and Eyore and Pooh, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
absolutely fantastic. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Just out of interest, where did these come from originally? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
In my lifetime they hung in my grandmother's spare room | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
at her house when I stayed when I was a kid and I got interested in them. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
As far as I know, they've been in the family since my mother's | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
childhood and she can tell you more about that. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
They were in my nursery when I was three in the early '50s. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
She had an aunt who bought her all the original books when they first came out, the year they came out. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
-The first editions. -I think they were first editions. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
They could have been the second because of the short print runs. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
We think they came into the family that way and then it's possible, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
that she went to a book signing with that aunt and was given these there. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
Well, great foresight on her behalf and she obviously loved the images. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
Now I know quite a lot about Ernest Howard Sheppard because | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
many years ago, in the late '70s, I actually was involved in doing | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
a studio sale of his pictures. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
And of course he was born in the 1870s and of course his early work | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
-was in the early 1900s - he did it for Punch magazine. -Really? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
And then he started illustrating and he met AA Milne in the 1920s and did, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:09 | |
in 1924, When We Were Young with Christopher Robin | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
and then, in 1928, did the first Winnie The Pooh book. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
And of course in the 1930s he illustrated Kenneth Grahame's | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
Wind In The Willows. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
And when you look at these closely, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
you know, when he started doing these figures, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
it's not just pen and ink, there is pencil underneath that. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
He'd worked out the images freehand and there's so much spontaneity here. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
You've only just got to look at Owlie, it's fantastic. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
If we come up the top here, I mean just look at this, a fantastic study | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
because you've got Pooh stuck in | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
the sort of rabbit hole, being pulled out by Christopher Robin. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
Rabbit's behind and then we've got | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
Piglet there hanging on the back trying to | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
pull him out, and it's just charming. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
I imagine there would have been some writing in here. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
They've left some space. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Now the condition, as I say, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
it's an original and we've got mould here round the signature. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Now forget about the mould, that can | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
easily be removed, but it's just so nice because these aren't... He did | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
rework some of his images in the 1950s and '60s and he died in 1976. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
But these are actually from the 1920s and '30s period. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
You can tell just by the way that they look. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
And some years ago I sold a little picture of Toad | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
when he came out of jail, dressed in washerwoman's clothes, and we had | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
an estimate of £5,000-£7,000 on it and it made £10,000, just for one. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
-Wow! -But having told you about Wind In The Willows, of course, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
Pooh is much, much more popular. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
And so we've got the three here and I look at Owlie and I look at | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
Eyore and Pooh looking up like that. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
I think, what is that worth? | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Well, I can tell you they're certainly going | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
to be worth £20,000 to £30,000... | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-Woah! -..just for those three. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
Wow! | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
So, we come to this one. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Now, I don't know if this is the original from the book, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
but if it is, and I know | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
-that this would make between £30,000 and £50,000. -Wow! | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
-That is how popular. -Wow! | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
There's a huge interest in America. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Wonderful. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
A vote of thanks to Sir Edward Phelips, who built Montacute House over 400 years ago. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
The family name lives on in the title of a pub in the village, which I think is a wonderful legacy. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
Thanks to the National Trust for opening the gates and to the people | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
of Somerset for coming through them. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Until the next time, from Montacute House, goodbye. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 |