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As we approach the end of this series, the Roadshow gathers itself for another giant leap. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
A warm welcome to our second show from Down Under. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
After the delights of Sydney, we've come south to south west | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
for about 500 miles to another great city of culture. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Marvellous Melbourne. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Apart from the splendour and the sophistication, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
there's another element to life here which is creating a frenzy of anticipation, and that's sport. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:02 | |
Melbourne is about to host the Commonwealth Games - | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
just a few finishing touches, and one of the world's most renowned sporting venues | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
will be all set for 12 days of lung-bursting achievement. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
'At 4.32pm on November 22nd, a flame enters the stadium.' | 0:01:17 | 0:01:23 | |
Melbournians are accustomed to mad dashes for gold. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
The 1956 Olympic Games saw several. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
And a century before that, there were some record-breaking sprints | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
in the direction of the nearby gold fields. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
While most prospectors struck nothing but dirt, successful diggers | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
drank champagne from buckets. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Fortunes were made, empires were established. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
One enterprising family started by selling assorted buttons and other necessities to the prospectors, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
and now Myer is one of the largest retailers in Australia. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
Others did it their way - | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
one young digger, name of Ned Kelly, gave up the shovel for the gun. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
Ned aimed to make his fortune robbing banks and bushwhacking trains, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
but he was caught and brought to Melbourne Gaol in 1880. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
No medal for guessing what happened then. These days fossicking for Nedophilia | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
can be a bit of a goldmine in itself. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Melbourne's Royal Exhibition Building | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
has achieved its own gold standard, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
being the only building in Australia to be awarded World Heritage Status. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
It hosted great exhibitions in 1880 and '88. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
The prestige of the place was sealed | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
when the first Australian Parliament met here in 1901. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Today another historic occasion - | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
the first Antiques Roadshow in the State of Victoria. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
We have a Commonwealth team of British and Australian experts | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
straining at the leash, so on your marks. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
I'm looking at a tatty tin box which I can just about make out the words "Western Australia" | 0:03:12 | 0:03:19 | |
at the top - where did this tatty box come from? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
It was rescued from a skip, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
after a deceased estate being cleaned out, it almost made it into the skip, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
fortunately it didn't, er, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
and it turned out to be full of glass slides. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
And that's the treasure revealed, because it really is a little treasure chest, and I have to say | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
usually glass lantern slides don't get my heart pounding, but when | 0:03:42 | 0:03:48 | |
I look at this first slide here, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
it's a nugget the size of... | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
the size of a rugby ball. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
In fact, you've just got a smoker's pipe on the top I think to give you an idea of scale, haven't you? | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
Yes, so it's quite a... quite a large lump | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
of gold, for want of a better word. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
So this collection of magic lantern slides is all about the gold rush. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
What it actually is is a history of the Kalgoorlie Gold Fields, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
from about 1898 until about 1901. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
There are photos there that are exceptional in their detail and quality, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
and give a very good indication of the conditions people were living in, and working in, in that time. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:35 | |
It was Paddy Hannan who first discovered gold | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
in 1895 out in Kalgoorlie | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
and there was, of course, a stampede and within months, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
the whole area was besieged by people | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
with strikes, but in the beginning, of course, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
it was the Aboriginal people, they were the only people who had that land, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
there they were, and then the tents arrived and then subsequently some of these frame buildings arrived, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:05 | |
until latterly, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
it turned Kalgoorlie into really quite a substantial Victorian town, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
didn't it? | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
Quite a large town with quite a large population and still going ahead as much as any country town can and... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
Oh, this is nice, because you can actually see the people involved here. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:27 | |
See the people and the conditions they were living and working in and... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
It's frightening, isn't it? | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
And, um, the safety concerns today - | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
-most of these places would be closed down immediately. -Absolutely. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Gosh, it looks pretty precarious. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
This looks like an entrance to a tunnel going down. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
I'm trying to work out whether these images are amateur or professional. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
I would say they were done by a professional. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
They're too good, aren't they, really, to be snapshots. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-They're very very good. -But I'm absolutely certain that some of these images will have appeared | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
and will be known images within the resources of the museums in Australia, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:10 | |
but I would have said we're talking about a general value of perhaps | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
50 a slide, and we've got 100 here, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
so that means we're talking about 5,000 - 5,500 as a starting point, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
which is, let's say, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
around £2,000 - £2,500, so, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
what a museum or what an enthusiastic collector... | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
-Will pay. -..of mining memorabilia will pay in the end, the sky's possibly the limit. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:39 | |
Right, you know, the last time I saw one of these was actually | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
in a museum, and I think they must be incredibly rare - | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
this one is obviously incredibly fragile, and I think it's what they call...is it a leaving pennant? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:52 | |
-No, a paying-off pennant. -A paying-off pennant. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
And each foot of it is a year of his service in the navy, and it's flown on the very last voyage. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
-Isn't that absolutely splendid? -This was flown 1810 on the "Ville de Paris". | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
His name was Captain Cas Calladay. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-Right. -And he's my husband's great-great-grandfather only, just great-great. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:13 | |
-Isn't that incredible? -Yes, it's amazing. -I mean that's certainly the longest one | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-I've ever seen, but you can imagine how wonderful that would look! -It would be flying. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-And it was done by the sailors themselves, wasn't it? -Yes, yes, for the Captain or Master... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-They did it, so they must have thought an awful lot of him. -Yes. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-Now here's the man himself. -Right, yes. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
Here he is. It's not a terribly good miniature, but the thing that I like | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
is this letter where he is trying | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
to resign from the navy. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
"My Lord, with due respect I submit this letter to your Lordship's consideration | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
"after serving as Master of The Orion | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
"in the action of the 21st October". | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
So this is a survivor of the Battle of Trafalgar. And what you also have, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
which you have very nicely and very neatly repaired, is this... | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
-The log book. -The log book - well, my experience with log books is that they are terribly boring. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:08 | |
Well, I've been very good, I've actually read it and I can approve of what you're saying. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-Well, rather you than me! -There are snippets... -Because there are sort of floggings and, um... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
-Yes, yes. -Hangings and... | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Not so many in the Mediterranean | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
-when they had very good food. -Yes. -The floggings came out in the Atlantic, which was interesting. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
No, that is interesting, absolutely and they obviously... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
-Falling off the masts and things. -Oh, and they didn't eat as well or anything. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
No, they had a lot of fresh fruit, a lot of wine. 180 gallons a night. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
-180 gallons a night? -Yes, yes, I thought that was very impressive. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Lots of biflavanoids...good, didn't have to have their limes. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:42 | |
Well, quite frankly, how can you drive a ship on that amount of wine? | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-I don't know. -Well, I think the water was too bad. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:47 | |
I think it's absolutely incredible, you've brought all this stuff, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
you've brought this fantastic pennant | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
-from where? -We've come, flown in from Perth, it's about 2,000 miles from Melbourne. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
Well, greater love hath no woman! Anyway, back to the piece in point! | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
-Yes. -It's impossible to put an accurate price on this, but I think it is so incredible, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:08 | |
I would say | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
no less than 120,000. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
£50,000. I think it's, I think it's cheap at the price, relic of Nelson! | 0:09:17 | 0:09:23 | |
-Oh, my gosh. -And this wonderful pennant, of which so few survived. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
I-I don't want to carry it out of here! | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Well, you have really made my day bringing these along, because the one thing I wanted to see | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
perhaps more than anything else here in Melbourne was a Royal Worcester coffee set with Australian flowers. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
What's the family history? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Er, they were a present to my parents, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
and all we ever knew about them was that they sat in the china cabinet and we were told not to touch. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
Oh, right. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
And they said they were a duplicate | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
of the set given to the Duke and Duchess of York when they came | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
to open the Federal Parliament, which was 1927, I believe. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Oh, right, well, that will fit in nicely with the date these were made, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
because we're looking here in the mid-1920s and they're the result of a remarkable, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
really, collaboration between Melbourne and Royal Worcester. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
Yes. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-Because the Australian collectors here had always loved Worcester porcelain painted with flowers. -Yes. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
And I think they found a lot of the English flowers rather dull | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
and asked for specimens that were closer to home. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
-Yes. -And so here you've got really native flowers through and through. -Waratah. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
That's rich and red, isn't it there, on the cup and a matching saucer for each one. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:41 | |
And a matching saucer for each one. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
-What's that? That's Christmas Bells, isn't it? -Yes, yes. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
Really bright colours, and of course, I recognise there an exotic | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
flowering gum, and how strange these flowers must have seemed | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
to the painter at Royal Worcester! These are the work of Reginald Austin, a Worcester lad | 0:10:53 | 0:10:59 | |
through and through and the flowers growing there in England are very different indeed to these flowers. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
Would he have come out here to paint them? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
Well, that's really the secret - Worcester were asked to make flowers | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
of these but they hadn't got any specimens to copy from. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-Yes, yes. -So instead they got in touch with dealers in Australia who commissioned an Australian artist, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:17 | |
a Melbourne artist, Marian Ellis Rowan, to go and do a series of designs for Worcester porcelain. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
-Yes. -And then her designs were sent back to Worcester, where they were copied so carefully. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
At the time, I think, they were selling for something like about the equivalent of about £5 a set, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:35 | |
or we're looking about sort of 12 a set when they were new. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
They've certainly gone up in value over the time - | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
I mean nowadays ,the last set I know | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
that were sold I think made 8,000 for a set, I think about £3,000 | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
and really, you've got a super thing here and makes me feel at home from Worcester to Melbourne. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:57 | |
You can't take them back. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
-Please? -No. -All right, then. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Do you know, at first I thought these must be just stuffed editions | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
of your dear pets, but they're papier mache, aren't they? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
-Yes, they are. -How old are they? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
I've got a book at home with some children's toys, and between 1860 and 1880, made in France. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
So they went in for these sort of grotesque growlers, didn't they? | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
-Yes, they did. -What do they do? They stand there looking sort of menacing? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
No, they don't, they growl when you pull the chain. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
-Wow! -And they've got little wheels on, they were children's toys so... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
-And this one works the same, does it? -Yes. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
Ooh, more ladylike, this one, isn't it, than yours? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Let's hear yours again. Wow, that's some bark. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
So here we are looking at a photograph | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
of this very building in 1901 with an amazing ceremony happening. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:58 | |
-Absolutely. -Here on this balcony, in this same building, underneath that very painting on the wall here. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
Tell me about what this occasion was. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
We're looking at the opening of Federal Parliament - | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
the first sitting of Federal Parliament in 1901. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
The actual opening of Parliament happened during the day and then | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
in the evening, 10,000 people, we're led to believe, came back | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and enjoyed an evening reception and concert, and this is the programme of events from that concert. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:26 | |
It says "In celebration of the opening of the Parliament of the | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
-Commonwealth of Australia, to meet their Royal Highnesses and Duke and Duchess of Cornwall and York". -Yes. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
And how did this come to be in your family? | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Well, it was actually amongst the possessions of my, um, my husband's father, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
and we have no idea how he got hold of it, other than it was handed down through a couple of generations. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
I think you're going to have to do a bit more sort of family homework to try and find out who this! | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
-I think you're right. -Let's just open up and have a look inside, because... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
here we are, we've got a complete list of what happened during the day. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
Do you know about any of the performers here? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Basically, the people who appeared in this concert were | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
the sort of great and the good of the Australian theatre world of the day. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Ah, well, I'd love to know what Madame Slapovski did | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
-and Herr Slapovski on the other side, over here. -Yes. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I bet they were quite some double. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
This programme would not have been given to everybody that turned up, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
so there weren't 10,000 or so programmes done, this would have been only given | 0:14:19 | 0:14:26 | |
to the most notable people, so someone in your family | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
had quite an important role to play, I'm sure. So as far as value is concerned, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
I would think about 1,000 to 1,500 Australian dollars | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
which is about £500 to £700, just as it is. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
If we can find out something more about who owned it within your family, that may increase the value. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:48 | |
What I find amazing, actually, standing here in this fabulous building and looking at this | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
photograph here is that just down there, you know, what is only, what, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
a hundred and something years ago... | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
-Yeah. -..the Duke and Duchess were starting the first Federal Government in Australia. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
-Yes, the birth of a new country. -Amazing. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Well, I found it in Melbourne, um, at a garage sale - | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
do you want me to wind it up for you? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Oh, go ahead. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
He is quite unusual, actually. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
It's beautiful, isn't it? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
That is...! | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
I won't let him walk off the table, I will turn him around a bit. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
That's wonderful. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
That's great fun, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
and do you know anything about it at all? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Look, I have no idea, I believe he was from the days of the British Raj, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
so I would imagine he is from India. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Well, the peacock dates from round about 1890-1900. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
-Right. -Um, it was made in Paris, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
but then could have been exported anywhere, but certainly it's a French automaton and they weren't | 0:16:02 | 0:16:08 | |
made as toys so much for children, but they were toys for grown-ups, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
because the condition of this is remarkable. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
I've seen them before, but never so complete, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
so whoever owned it and used it, children weren't allowed to, to mess around. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
You say you paid quite a lot of money for it, so I'm slightly daunted about giving you a price, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
but I would have thought we're talking about 4,000 or 5,000 | 0:16:28 | 0:16:34 | |
which converts to about £1,800 to £2,500. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-Do you remember what you paid for it? -Yes, 1,500. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Well, you've got a fantastic eye, then. You'll make a fantastic antique dealer. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
Coming as I do from Britain, I think over there we have a view that | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
we simply filled Australia up with transported violent criminals | 0:16:52 | 0:17:00 | |
and I'm very keen to talk about this, as I think in a sense perhaps | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
this is a chance to redress the balance. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
Now, first of all, here is a sign about transportation | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
and how you got sent here - | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
how did this get sent to you? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
We actually found it in a small country museum about an hour and a half out of Melbourne, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
-in a town called Ballarat... -Yes. -..that was closing down and they | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
were auctioning off everything in the museum to the public, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
we put in a bid and were successful. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Good. What we've got to understand is that you could undertake a very minor offence in Britain | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
and be sent to the colonies - | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
you could steal a sheep, you could get into financial difficulties, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
very minor misdemeanours which today probably would hardly | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
even get you a fine, and you would be sent out, so it wasn't just axe murderers and lunatics and maniacs | 0:17:46 | 0:17:52 | |
who were sent out, it was people who had simply fallen foul of the law in a very minor way, because Australia | 0:17:52 | 0:17:58 | |
was built by craftsmen, by artists, by people of all levels of society, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
who had simply made a mistake. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
This is obviously about 1830 - we've got George IV, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
so it's right at the end of his reign. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
I take "30" to be 1830. I think it was in the County of Middlesex which tells us it's a bridge | 0:18:14 | 0:18:20 | |
probably across the Thames, and cast iron notices like this were put up frequently in Britain - | 0:18:20 | 0:18:26 | |
very durable, it's nice the notice itself made its way to Australia | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
as well as, you know, the crime it recorded. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
-Maybe it was stolen. -Maybe it was stolen, wonderful, I'm sure it was. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
You bought it in this funny, or private, auction, can you remember what you paid? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-150. -Well, I think that was a pretty good buy! | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
I'd have bought it myself because I think it's great social history. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
I'm going to say today even with this damage, which of course was | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
probably done when it was prised off the bridge, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
I would say this would now fetch 1,200 - £500. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
So because it's such a rarity to see, it's a great piece of history, and I wish I'd bought it. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:11 | |
Even if I might have been transported for having it. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
Right, well, I'm a collector of vintage cars, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
so I've been picked out to come and talk about motorcycles | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
but before I display my ignorance, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
tell me, what is a Waratah, because I've never heard of it. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
Waratah, it's a 1917 Waratah, Australian bike, made in Australia | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
by Healey Brothers who made the pushbike, and it went | 0:19:35 | 0:19:41 | |
to Williams & Company | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
and they produced the Waratah until 1948. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
Right, so what year would this one be then? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-1917. -OK, single cylinder? | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Yes. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-Do you ride it? -Yes, yes. It's rideable | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
-and very comfortable. -Did you come here today in it? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
No, because it's too cold. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Too cold today. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Right, well, I'm sorry about my ignorance because I just, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
you know, haven't been to Australia before and I've certainly never come across one of those in England. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
This I have come across - the Bradbury, but I've never seen a twin cylinder. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
No, they're probably quite a number of single cylinder Bradburys around, there may be as many as a hundred | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
or more, worldwide, but twins, as far as we are able to make out, there's only two left in the world. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:28 | |
One's in the British Motorcycle Museum. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
They had a terrible fire. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-Yeah, so we don't know if that one still exists. -Could be crispy bike. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
-It could be, it could very well be, yeah. -Hopefully not, yeah? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-And this one. -This one here is made in 1915, 750cc and we still use it - | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
we just use it as it is. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
The original owner had it locked away in a shed for 65 years, and he wasn't allowed to ride it, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:51 | |
and so it was dug out about the early '80s and, er... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
-Just like this? -Yeah. -I mean it looks to me absolutely stunningly original. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
-It is. -We've got hand shift. Yes. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
-This is not a pressure tank, is that an oil...? -No, that's an oil pump, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:07 | |
-and it's got a gear change on the side. -Right. -It's got a foot clutch or a hand clutch, carbide lights. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
Carbide lights, and I noticed actually when I was looking | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
at it, it's not only got carbide lights on the bike, but also on the chair. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
-That's correct, yes. -With a transfer pipe running over. -This thing, yes. -That's brilliant. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
Well, coming to valuations, on my part, it's going to be a bit of a guess but that | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
looks something like sort of 10,000, £4,000. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
-That's it, that's about it, yeah. -OK but this - if it is, well... | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
if it's one of two, the other one's in a museum, then who knows? | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
25,000, 50,000 - £10,000, £20,000? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
-That's right, we don't know, we don't know. -Wonderful, thank you very much, it's great. -Thank you. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
So here we are, standing in this completely magnificent building | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
and here is a portrait of LL Smith, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
one of the men who made this building possible, by one of Australia's great painters, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:22 | |
-Tom Roberts. It's a wonderful thing. -Yes, it is. -How did it come to be in your family? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Actually, LL Smith was my husband's grandfather, so it's been in the family since it was painted. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
I see, now Tom Roberts himself was a fascinating artist, a man who interpreted the Australian landscape | 0:22:30 | 0:22:37 | |
in a truly individual way, but of course, like many many artists, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
-he had to make his money selling the commissions for portraits. -Yes. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:47 | |
And here you have a wealthy man, Dr LL Smith. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
-Yes. -How did he make his money? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
-He left England in 1852. -Right. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
As an impoverished doctor. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
He landed and went straight to the gold fields up at Castlemaine. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
-Did he find any gold? -Yes, he did - not enough to make a living off, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:09 | |
but he kept a little sample in a medicine bottle. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Look, completely wonderful, this is real gold? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-It is real gold, yes. -Well, obviously he was rich enough not to have to spend it quite yet. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
I think he had so little that he thought he might as well keep it as a souvenir. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
-Right. -And he got dysentery - the conditions on the gold fields were absolutely terrible. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
-Oh, dear. -Where dysentery was rife, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
so he came back to Melbourne and he set up a medical practice. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
He advertised widely, and he... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
Is this what you've brought here? This advertising bell, is that for him? That's it? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
That's for a line of vegetable pills he produced. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Oh, right. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
This is hilarious, "Dr Lewis L Smith's vegetable anti-bilious | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
"or cooling opening pills." Opening what? | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Well, opening one's bowels, I imagine. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
And at one stage he had, he set up travelling carts that took the pills | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
-and his medical ointments out to the gold fields. -Oh, how brilliant. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Well, you can see how he made it. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-Yes, he lost it a few times too. -Did he? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
He speculated in everything, he had racehorses, he produced champagne. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:16 | |
-He was involved in a great number of things. -Yes. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
He was a parliamentarian for something like, um, 28 years. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
He was very interested in public entertainment. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
-Yes. -Because he had come from a theatrical background - his father had been in the theatre in London. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
-I think that this portrait really captures that, don't you? -Yes. It shows his... | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
-Because it's got, it's got the light in his eyes. -Yes. -And he's obviously making a point here. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
-Yes. -And he's going to be very sure that his colleagues get it, but there's humour in his face as well. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
-Yes. -He's not lecturing them, he's making it a bit jokily, isn't he? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
We've always felt that, Tom Roberts must have quite liked him, because it's a very... | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
-It's caught him well. -Yes. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Psychologically, you feel you've met him, don't you? | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
-There's a lot, yes. -Yes, it's very powerful. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
So there are quite a few portraits by Roberts around, perhaps not of such important figures, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
nor even so successfully done, because it really is very lively. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
There must be a few institutions that would like to have it, mostly in Melbourne, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
because it's to do with the gold rush, it's to do with a founding father of the city, it's a lot | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
of history wrapped up in this picture and he's quite a character. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
-Yes. -I think, if I was putting a value on it for sale, which would have to be its insurance value, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
it would be something in the region of 80,000 Australian dollars, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
£35,000 - £40,000 back in England. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
My uncle collected beautiful things. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
This is a collection of a few bits and pieces that he had, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
which...he actually died about four years ago and left them to me. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
-Ah, well, your uncle had pretty good taste. -I love that. -You like that? -That's my favourite. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
I like it lots. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
-I like it, and if it could speak to you, it would say that it came from near "Doodley". -OK. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
I say Dudley, but people who live in Dudley call it "Doodley" which | 0:25:56 | 0:26:02 | |
is basically in the West Midlands of England. Now let's have a...oh, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:09 | |
it's a treasure. First of all, let's have a look at it end on because we've got, we've got an overlay | 0:26:09 | 0:26:15 | |
in four different colours, so you've got white, clear, white again | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
and then you've got this sort of primrose yellow, but you know, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
when you actually see the piece carved through, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
it's a very vibrant yellow, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
so this is a classic piece of English cameo glass, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
almost certainly from Thomas Webb. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
It doesn't get much better than this, because one layer of glass carved through to another, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
to another and on top of that, you've got, if you look here, you see this sort of feathering effect. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
-Yes. -Date-wise, probably around about 1885-1890. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
-Is it? -So this is pure Victoriana. -It's very old. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
You need serious money to buy this today. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
I think you wouldn't get away with paying less than £5,000 sterling, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
-that works out at 12,000 Australian dollars. -Ooh, OK. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:07 | |
-OK, and let's put that on one side a moment, because the pulse is racing here. -That's just beautiful. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
And show me this woman! Let's take her out - slow, ooh, she's a weight! | 0:27:12 | 0:27:19 | |
I deal in Art Deco and have done for 30 years, and from 100 paces | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
it's quite obvious who this bronze and ivory figure is by. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
Because the name is here, it's Gerdago. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-Yes. -Now date-wise, around about 1925-1930, I mean, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:38 | |
this girl to me looks as though she could have had a walk-on part | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
-as a Star Wars princess, don't you think so? -Yes, very much so. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
Because the thing about Gerdago is that he is such a dramatic | 0:27:47 | 0:27:53 | |
sculptor, and he is very happy to include plenty of colour. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
-He's not big on ivory, if you look, just the face. -Yes. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
And just look at those lips, I mean they are kissing lips, are they not? | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
1925-style, and those fingers are so elegant, you know, they're beautifully, beautifully carved, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
and then as for the actual skirt itself, it's enamelled | 0:28:13 | 0:28:19 | |
in wonderful bright colours | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
and then set off on a base of polished green Brazilian onyx. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:28 | |
If she was a car, she'd be a Rolls Royce. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
-Oh, good. -OK, the last selection of Gerdago bronze I remember turning up in London | 0:28:30 | 0:28:37 | |
were sold as part and parcel of the Elton John collection. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:43 | |
-Oh, OK. -So you're in good company actually when it comes to... | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
-Oh, good. -..collecting pedigree. They tend in the main to be | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
desirable, consequently expensive, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
so I'll start with Australian dollars this time, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
and say you're looking nearer 48,000 Australian - | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
we're talking about £20,000 sterling. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
Oh, my God, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
oh, my God! Yes, OK. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
-Are you a deep-sea diver? -No, I'm not at all. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
What about conchology, are you keen on that? | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
No, I'm not into that either. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
Because this is an extremely nicely formed conch or conc shell, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
but it's a conc shell with a difference - here we go - | 0:29:25 | 0:29:30 | |
wow, look at that! | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
Quite disgusting, really, isn't it? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Quite disgusting, you reckon? | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Well, anyway, you said it! Actually, I think it's absolutely the most kitsch thing I've ever seen. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:42 | |
-It is, isn't it? -Yeah, and of course they filled it with natural coral | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
but they've re-coloured the coral in this particularly kitsch way. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
Tacky colours, the bits actually rearrange, you can rearrange your bits anywhere you like them. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Oh, I say! | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
-And then you ram a light bulb underneath and then the whole thing is illuminated. -Yes. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
So, do you love this thing to bits? | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
No. I was always told when I was young that it was very special and don't touch it, so when | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
my grandmother went to a nursing home, I said to her "You know that lamp, would I be able to have it?" | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
and she said "Oh, no you can't have it till I die", | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
-and I thought "Ooh". -Where did she used to have it in her house? -Sitting on top of the television. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
Never had the television on without the conch shell on, is that right? | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
-Basically that's that. -That's fantastic, isn't it? So you nicked it, really? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
Well, I did, I went around and thought well she's close enough to death anyway, so... | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
-That's... -I might as well take it, and I thought it was so tacky. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
-That's a terrible thing to say. -I thought it would go to the Salvos, though. -Anyway, you took it home. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
-Yeah, I did. -And do you have it on every day at home now? | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
No, I don't, I turn it on occasionally when friends come around as a bit of a joke really. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
-When you're feeling depressed? You put it on when you're depressed? -Could do, right. -Yeah, you could do, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
-couldn't you? Because it would jolly you up. -It would. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
And that's the whole point, it's a jolly little object. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
Frankly if the thing was in a sale in the UK I can see it bringing between 250 and 350, £100 to £150. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:57 | |
-A lot more than I thought it would be worth, anyway. -Really? | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
-But it's so amusing. -It is. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
Should your face look familiar to me? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
Well, maybe, you might remember my father, but it's going back a long, long time. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
-When? -Well, you and he were evacuated together during the, during the war, to Chard. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
-In Somerset? -Yes. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
That's right. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
Yes, so he was there for two years, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
I think you were there for four or something like that. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
-Yeah, nearly five, well, where was he from? -He was from Earlsfield. -Earlsfield! Where I was from. -Yes. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
-What's his name? -Peter, Peter Dodd. -Peter Dodd, Peter Dodd, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
little Doddy, clipped him round the ear once. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
Well, funny you should say that, because there's a story there! | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
His sister Barbara was also evacuated with him, and she clearly recalls you punching him in the nose. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:48 | |
And actually he wasn't small at all, because you're not a small chap, I must have been very brave then. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
-I think you must have been. -I wish it was true. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
Well, some people will go to absolutely enormous lengths to bring things to the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:31:55 | 0:32:00 | |
but here we've got something a bit more, a bit more manageable in scale - an Aboriginal painting | 0:32:00 | 0:32:06 | |
which reminds me of the colours of the desert - is that in fact where you collected this work? | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
Yes, I did, this was in the late '70s, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
just out from Alice Springs, that's way out in the desert, and this guy | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
who was obviously a painter, and he'd just finished this painting | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
and I asked him would be interested in selling it, and he said yeah, so I bought it for 30. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
-30? -Yeah. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
Wow, you've got a lovely work here. Um, natural ochres - if we have a look here, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
you've cleverly written on the back your notes which is fabulous. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
I wish more people would do that, it gives us indications | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
of, about the story. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
But you see this Mick Namarari Tjapaltjarri who is quite a well known Aboriginal artist, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:49 | |
he was born in the 1930s and died in 1986. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
I'll just put this back now but this is really part of the early stages of the Aboriginal Art Movement. | 0:32:52 | 0:33:00 | |
I don't know if you're aware, but traditionally Aboriginal art took the form of body painting, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
of ground paintings, that sort of thing, so it was something that was created for ceremony and then | 0:33:04 | 0:33:10 | |
disappeared or destroyed, whereas in the early 1970s, a group of men, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
elders, began to transpose those traditional designs onto, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
um, hard materials for portable art, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
-and quite often, as you said, you were right up in the middle of the desert, weren't you? -Yes, yes. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
Canvases, you know, oil paints, those sort of things weren't available | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
-and so they were painting out of necessity on this type of thing. -Yeah. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
The interesting about Aboriginal art, it's not really designed to be set up on an easel like this. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:40 | |
No. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
Um, it's probably better to look at the painting in fact this way, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
because it would have been painted flat on the ground, the same | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
as Aboriginal canvases are painted flat on the ground now. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
We're looking at the story of the lizard serpent | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
moving through the landscape, and shaping the country as he moved, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
and apparently these little dots are the fruits that he ate | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
along the way, so you can see it's a bit like | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
a terrain map of his country, it's not a literal map | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
of the country, but it shows how those creation stories | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
tie in with the landscape in which he lived. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
But I understand there are other meanings behind that, that there | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
are sort of sacred meanings as well as a kind of a map? | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
There are certain stories and rituals which are only for men's business, and women's business. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:32 | |
Certainly as a woman, it's not something that would be shared with me, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
and as an uninitiated man he would share a certain level of meaning | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
-with you, but not the whole meaning. -Yeah, ah. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
So quite often with these sort of stories, we don't have access | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
to the many levels of meaning in this. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
-Yes. -But it's quite a lovely work. Conservatively, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
on the current auction market, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
it would be worth between about 3,000 and 6,000 Australian dollars. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
-Wow. -Which is about £1,200 - £1,500, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
so, um, apart from having a wonderful experience to go behind | 0:35:05 | 0:35:11 | |
this work, you've also made a good return on your original investment. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
-Fantastic, thank you. -Thank you. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
Now Norman Brooks is known as the father of Australian tennis. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
What relationship is he to you? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
He's my grandfather. In his tennis career, he won many, many events | 0:35:26 | 0:35:32 | |
but he won Wimbledon 1907, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
being the first foreigner to win Wimbledon, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
which was considered a mammoth effort, because the British | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
weren't going to let it go easily, and, and again he won it in 1914. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
-Right. -We believe this trophy, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
and the 1914, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
are the only full-size replicas in existence. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
Other than that, everyone else has only got miniatures and I think that was borne out due to the fact that | 0:35:58 | 0:36:05 | |
they never expected to lose in '07, so they just made another one, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
you know, as it were, and, er, and then from there to '14, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
there was no-one outside Britain that won it, in fact even Tony Wilding, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
who was a New Zealander, he lived in Britain. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-Right. -So he got, he got a miniature, but grandfather, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
you know, got, we believe, the only two full-sized replicas. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
And even when we enquired at Wimbledon, they didn't even know. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
Which makes it exceptional, because I mean I have to say when I initially saw it, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
I just thought, "Well, somebody's stolen it", you know, and brought it over here. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
-Exceptionally rare. -Yes. -Didn't he also in 1907 win the Doubles too? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
Yes, he won the Doubles in, er , '07 which was the maiden year, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
as they say, from the point of view | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
that the he was the first man to win it, but he won the Singles and the Doubles | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
which was, which was quite staggering really. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
Purely in financial terms, I would have thought the Doubles jug is going to be worth, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
to a collector, let's put it that way, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
well in excess of 20,000 or £8,000. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
The racket - did he use that to win one of the Championships? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
I'm not sure, I really don't know, but I know that that was a racket that he used, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:25 | |
but whether it was in that period, I don't know. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
But certainly used by him, it's probably 5,000 or £2,000. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:33 | |
But what's this worth? I mean, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
only one other replica known, which you also own. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
-Yes. -And obviously the original which is at Wimbledon. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
So a massively important trophy to tennis enthusiasts. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
It's difficult to come up with a price, but I would think | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
at auction you're talking about a figure well in excess of 75,000, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
or £30,000, so a fantastic piece. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
I believe, and I believed grandfather believed, these belong to Australia, not an individual. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:03 | |
Be great to go into one of the sporting museums. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
-Yes, it really would, and it's that's what we'd like to, you know, we'd like to do. -Good. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
I also have a personal interest in this because, I don't know if you noticed, but, if I can pick it up | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
here, on the side there is 1893. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
-Yes. -W Baddeley, Wilfred Baddeley. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Well, my name's John Baddeley, and he's a distant relation of mine. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
-How wonderful! -So I hope you don't mind if I give it a quick kiss. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
The classic. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:31 | |
-Thank you very much. -That's wonderful, John. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
I'll take it with me, now! | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
Picture yourself in 1912. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:48 | |
There's been this terrible disaster, the Titanic has been sunk, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
hit by an iceberg. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
And I don't know whether one can say that the Steiff factory in Germany | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
were very sensitive or were very switched on to a marketing opportunity, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
but the Steiff factory produced a whole series of bears in black, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
mourning bears they said, to mourn the loss of life on the Titanic, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
and this is what you're holding. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Now tell me about, tell me about him, is he a family piece? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
No, I had sent one of my bears to South Australia to get repaired and when she sent him back, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:29 | |
she sent a photograph of my bear, plus this one in the photograph. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
-What, it was just lurking in the background? -Yes, oh, they were sitting side by side, and about | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
a year later we got a phone call | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
saying that it was for sale and was I interested, and I said yes, I was, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
so we met the lady in the city and I bought the bear from her. It's just wonderful. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
"Just wonderful" is about all one can say about this bear! | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
Just look at him! He's got this great luxuriant mohair plush, | 0:39:54 | 0:40:01 | |
but the thing that I'm surprised at, really, is how good the condition is. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
When you look at things like his felt pads on his feet and on his hands here, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
they are always when we see them in Britain, they've always been got at by moths, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
they've been nibbled away, but this one's in incredibly good condition. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
There's one particular aspect of this bear which I think is very sweet, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
and very touching and that is that around these lovely black eyes here | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
we have red. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
A red background which shows the eye up very clearly, but also | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
it's what your eyes do when they cry, you know, this bear | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
-has got red eyes from crying. -Yeah, I wondered about that. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
And there we have the Steiff button which is absolutely right for that date, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:53 | |
that particular button came in in 1905 and was used for many years after that, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
so everything about it is right. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
So I've got to ask that question, how much did you pay for him? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
Er, 40,000 Australian dollars. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
I mean that's a lot of money - 40,000, I mean that's £17,000 - £18,000. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:16 | |
But I have to say | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
that a Titanic bear just like this, five years ago | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
at auction, fetched just over 200,000. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
200,000?! | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
So who knows? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
Maybe that was a lucky day, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
maybe yours wouldn't fetch 200,000, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
which is about £90,000, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
but even if it fetched half that, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
-you're still getting a pretty good return on your 40,000. -He's not for sale! | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
-He is a bear that is so rare, we've never seen a Titanic bear on all the British Antiques Roadshows. -Really? | 0:41:51 | 0:41:59 | |
And to find him down here, in Melbourne, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
well, it's a real eye-opener, and thanks so much for bringing him. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much! | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Well, it may be Australian winter time, but we've received a very warm welcome everywhere we've been | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
on this trip, and you always know you've got friends when people tell you how far | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
they've come to join the Roadshow, and here are two ladies who've come how far? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
From Perth - almost from London to Moscow. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
Wow, so that's 2,000 miles! | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-You must be real fans. -Very much so. Yes, yes, ten o'clock every night, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
-we both watch. -And did you get the full support of your family on this trip? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
No. They thought we were mad, but we thought we were clever. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
-And were you? -Yes. Wonderful shopping spree in Melbourne. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
And how about the show itself, did you have a good result? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
-Oh, very exciting, wonderful. Result, yes, 120,000. -For what? | 0:42:48 | 0:42:54 | |
It's the log book of just after Trafalgar - | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
-the paying-off pennant which is about 28 feet long. -So a very long trip, but very worthwhile. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
Yes, wonderful, thank you. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
-We really enjoyed it. -You're the lifeblood of the show - | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
now you've got to go all the way back again! | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
-All the way back. -And so do we, so from Melbourne, thank you | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
very much indeed for having us, until the next time, goodbye. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
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