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According to John Betjeman, the Edwardian age was the last | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
in which a rich man could afford to build himself a new and enormous | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
country house with formal gardens, a lily pond and clipped hedges. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:00 | |
The man who had this fine old house rebuilt at the turn of the last century | 0:01:03 | 0:01:09 | |
was certainly rich. Fabulously rich. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
He was Sir James Miller, and his family had made their money selling hemp and herring to Russia. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
The Miller mansion, called Manderston, lies just inside Scotland, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
12 miles from the border town of Berwick-upon-Tweed. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
On the outside it's classical Georgian, but the real treasure | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
lies inside, a wonderful example of Edwardian craftsmanship. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
Sir James, or Lucky Jim as he was known, wanted to create a home | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
whose splendour would reflect his wealth and status. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
He employed a young Scottish architect, John Kinross, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
and when Kinross asked how much he could spend on the project, he was told, "It simply doesn't matter." | 0:01:47 | 0:01:53 | |
With money no object, Kinross went to work. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
How many houses can boast a staircase made of silver? | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
So far as I know, just the one - Manderston. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Apparently it took three fit men a full three weeks | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
to dismantle the silverwork, polish it to perfection and then put it all back together again. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:15 | |
On the other hand, there are probably not many places that have a dairy made entirely of marble... | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
..a head gardener's house that has a feel of a modest chateau, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
or come to that, a boathouse in the style of an Alpine chalet. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
This was a gift from Sir James to his wife, Evelyn. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
The family motto is Omne Bonum Superne, which means all good comes from above, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:51 | |
which is a bit ironic considering they made their fortune with herring from below. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
It's exactly 100 years since Manderston was recreated | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
and to celebrate a whole series of events has been planned. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
From our point of view, the main event is today's Antiques Roadshow, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
which is taking place here on the south lawn. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
These are what we call majolica, they're tin-glazed earthenware and these come from Stoke-on-Trent. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:28 | |
The Victorian potters were obsessed by the ceramics of the Renaissance period | 0:03:28 | 0:03:37 | |
and one of the people they admired hugely was called Bernard Palissy, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:43 | |
a Frenchman working around 1600. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
And he developed a technique of making dishes and jugs | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
which he applied with lizards, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
-snakes, frogs, shells, and he actually cast them from the real thing. -Oh, right. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:01 | |
-So they look incredibly realistic. -They do, yes. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
One factory stands out amongst the makers of those - | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
a factory in Portugal called Mafra, and they almost exactly copied the Palissy pieces. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:16 | |
There's a wonderful diary written...a journal written by Lady Charlotte Schreiber, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
who was a sort of ceramic hoover of the Victorian era, and she went all around Europe buying up ceramics. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:28 | |
And she visited Mafra and she saw these things, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
and there's this wonderful scathing note in her journal saying they're the most awful objects ever made, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:38 | |
but these are in fact...not the Portuguese ones but very similar to, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
these are in fact made by a factory called George Jones. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
-Right. -Now, George Jones worked for Minton and then left and set up his own factory. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
These date from the 1860-'70s. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
Where did they come to you from? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
My grandmother was a bit like your lady, she was a bit of a hoover. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
She'd go round antique shops in the early...early last century. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
She would be picking things up like this. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
She had a fantastic collection of just bits she fancied. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
Well, we've got on this one, we've got a... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Ah! | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Grandfather's ashes! Erm... | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
We've got.... | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Eugh! I'm covered in it, erm...this mottled effect on here, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
which is typical of George Jones, and a reserve and the pattern number. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
Whereas this one... | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
..has got the full pad mark, GJ monogram for George Jones | 0:05:37 | 0:05:44 | |
and the pattern number up there and a more typical rich colouring on the mottling, the tortoiseshell effect. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:51 | |
A little bit of damage here and there. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Have you had them valued? | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
Not recently, no, it's a while since, to be fair. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Erm...I think with the market as it is at the moment, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
majolica's still holding up pretty well, unusual to have two of them. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:11 | |
I wonder whether one would sell them as a pair, or perhaps one would think of them as individuals. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
I think I probably would, erm... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
What would they make? They would make £2,000-3,000 apiece. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Jeez... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
OK, I'll try not to break them. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-I think I wouldn't. Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
And you've brought us two gorgeous diamond jewels here. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
They're kind of...surrealist dolphins, aren't they? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
They're certainly dolphins. They can be together as one brooch, or they can be separate on each lapel. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:47 | |
I'm very fond of them and I'd like to know a little more about them. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Well, I think the first thing to say is that they're classical dolphins. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
And they seem to be supported on some sort of webbing of laurel leaves | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
and hidden lurking in there, in their form, in their design, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
is a little message of love, to be perfectly honest, because the dolphin is one of the attributes of Venus. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:11 | |
Ah, yes, yes, yes. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
Adding up a little bit? And then at the back, here are the laurel leaves, and so this is an emblem | 0:07:12 | 0:07:18 | |
of the triumph of love, the laurels being for triumph and the dolphins for love, with little sapphire eyes. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:24 | |
And they appear to be brooches, but have you thought a little bit about the fixtures on the back? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
I had, and I wondered whether they had been part of a tiara or something similar. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
I'm sure they were part of a tiara. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
They would have sat on either side of the girl's temples | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
and swirl around in candlelight with her hair set with diamonds, and that's the context of these things. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:47 | |
-Do you think anybody in your family swirled round that dance floor? -Certainly. -Who was it? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
Well, there was an old aunt who gave them to my husband when he got married, and so I was given them. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:57 | |
I was asked to choose one of five bits of jewellery, and I didn't realise I would get two. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:03 | |
-How marvellous, so two for one. -Now, what sort of date are they? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
I think they're about 1890-1900 and they are neo-classical, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
very beautiful and extraordinarily wearable. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
We want to know whether you've worn them swirling round the dance floor. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Yes, I have, and a lot...and many weddings, but where were they made? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
They're English and it's difficult to say how I know they're English. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
I think it's the way in which the metalwork's phrased. They're mounted in gold, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
set in silver, and, erm...and how do you value them? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-What do you feel about them? -I have absolutely no idea. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
I think they're hugely desirable. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
I think everybody behind us rather wants them badly actually, don't look now, just keep them in the front. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
I think if one can get home safely through this crowd somehow or another, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:50 | |
one can ring up the insurance company and say something like £8,000-10,000. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
-I'll have to be careful getting home. -If you get home at all! | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
I really want to know how we have the connection of an egg | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
and a little piece of furniture. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
It's come through my family. I think it was my great-grandmother's sister | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
worked in the Royal household, and she looked after Princess Louise | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
who was the sixth child of Queen Victoria. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
-What was she doing there? -She was a dresser, I think. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
So perhaps these were given to her by Princess Louise. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
It could have been, or maybe she outgrew them and passed them on | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
to this relation of mine, and it's come down through my family. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Well, let's have a little look at this egg. I've never seen anything quite like it before. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
It's an... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
egg sitting in this gold metal nest, and the egg is made of opaque glass. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:51 | |
And looking inside there is a little necessaire, a little box for keeping all those useful things | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
that you might need for sewing. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
So this beautiful velvet, this purple was an incredibly new colour | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
when it came out in the late 1840s, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and then you've got a little pair of scissors, a thimble, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
a tiny little bodkin case for putting your needles in and a little thing for unpicking tangles in your sewing. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:17 | |
Ah, that's what it's for, I was wondering what it was for. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Undoing the knots - most useful if you sew like me, this would be what I would use all the time. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
-Well, the story to it makes it special. -Yes. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
And it's a lovely object. I think just on its own, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
-I would think somewhere around £600-800 for the egg. -Oh, goodness! | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
-Let's have a look at the wardrobe. So you think this was Princess Louise's as well? -It was, yes. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
I always wanted it when I was a little girl | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
and when my grandparents died, I said please could I have this wardrobe... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:52 | |
-So this was the thing that you really wanted. -I really coveted this. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-Well, it is a really nice small wardrobe, I think for a doll's house. -Ah, right. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
And you would have had pieces of furniture made specially for that. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
What I love about this, and what is so clever, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
is that there are all sorts of different pieces of wood | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
incorporated in the construction, which I'm sure Prince Albert would have really approved of, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:17 | |
-because he was absolutely pro educating his children. -Oh, really? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
"Darling Papa" is how the children used to know him. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
This is absolutely beautifully made. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
There's a drawer at the bottom. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
You've got a lovely scrolling entablature at the bottom with a little shell in the centre here. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:37 | |
But what I like at the corners too, they've been marked, incised, so they almost look like bricks. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:44 | |
If I take this drawer out, we'll just have a look and see... | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
The construction is absolutely incredible. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Tiny little dovetails, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
and also it's dovetailed at the back, so there was no expense spared when this was made. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
All in all, it's in super condition. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
-It's got this lovely red leather inside. -Yes. -And look, there's a little note says here, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
"Wardrobe from doll's house belonging to Queen Victoria's children." There you are. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
Well, my grandmother put the notice in... | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Oh, right, so that you would remember. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
I think this is a rare piece, and I think it's quite valuable. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
-Is it? Yes. -I would put | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
a minimum of £3,000 on it. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Gosh, you see people gulping! | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
I just never thought it was worth that. A minimum of that. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
That is amazing. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Well, it's one of the most popular shapes made by Clarice Cliff, conical sugar sifters. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
-What was it you wanted to know -I wanted to know what pattern it was. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:51 | |
It's called the Cornwall pattern. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
One of the problems with these, you turn them upside down and you get a cup full of sugar. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
Oh, I see, right. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
They did make the holes smaller as time went by because it was a problem. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
This is Clarice Cliff Bizarre. Any idea what it's worth? | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
-No, no idea at all. -Erm... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
It's quite an unusual pattern. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
About £1,500. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
-You're joking. -I'm not joking. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
-£1,500? -£1,500! | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
I can see the mark De Bose and an interesting looking box, and what have we got in here? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:28 | |
When is it going to stop? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
Those wonderful legs! | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-There we are. -And what are they? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
-Condoms. -Good grief! | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
-Were they ever used? I don't know. -Well, I should hope not! | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Isn't that fascinating to see those? How on earth did you find them? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Well, they were really just in a house clearance, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
were going to be thrown away and I just said, "I'll take those," | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
and they've stayed in the drawer 25, 30 years. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And presumably, as you say, not used. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
-No. -I can see just a trace at the top there of what is probably pig's bladder, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:02 | |
because it's too early for rubber ones. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
But the history of the condom goes back to Roman times, they too were using condoms of some sort. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:13 | |
-And in a box which is disguised as a cigarette box. -Cigarettes. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
So every man could wander around with these | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
and the lady might not know until, erm... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Well, anyway, we won't go there, we won't go there. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
But there can't be so many survivors of this period, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
which I suppose is the mid-19th century. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
I'm sure that I would pay a couple of hundred pounds for these, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
simply because they're so rare and each time you bring them out, you make someone laugh, so that's great. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:47 | |
Time now for a nice cup of tea and a biccie | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
and this week's featured collection literally takes the biscuit. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
The collector is our host and the owner of Manderston, Lord Palmer. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
Thanks very much for having us. What's the biscuit connection? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
Well, people always get rather confused. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
My name is Palmer so they assume that it was biscuit money which built this house, but it wasn't. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
I inherited the house from my mother's side of the family, who had made a lot of money | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
selling hemp and herrings to the Russians during the Crimean War. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
My father's side of the family made Huntley and Palmers biscuits. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Now, that's a name that I was brought up with. That was one of the really big companies, wasn't it? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
Well, at the turn of the last century we were the 48th largest company in Great Britain | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
and, er...sadly, though, anybody really born after 1970 wouldn't know the name, but most people | 0:15:33 | 0:15:40 | |
of our generation, yes, it is still a very famous name. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
But they made their way all over the world in all kinds of circumstances. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
Yes, we sold at one point to 137 different countries | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
and we were often asked to provide biscuits for Scott's trip to the Antarctica, for example. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:57 | |
Somebody was sort of excavating in the Pole area and they came across a sort of disused camp, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:04 | |
and allegedly they found a tin of biscuits, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
the biscuits looking remarkably fresh, next to Scott's actual body, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
and one was sold about five years ago for just over £7,000 for one biscuit. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:20 | |
It's quite extraordinary to think of. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Your collection started when? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
Well, I was sent off to work in Belgium and Luxembourg | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
as a travelling salesman for Huntley and Palmers, and I came across this tin here called Sledge, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:37 | |
which was made by Huntley and Palmers in 1898. I came across this in almost the first shop I went to | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
and I paid 100 Belgian francs for it, which in those days was about a pound. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
And I'm particularly attached to that because it was the first one I actually bought. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
They changed to making things that looked like things, didn't they? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Not just simply ornate boxes. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Yes, indeed, and you've got quite a good collection here. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
This one here is called Cabinet. It was made in 1911 and it's in fantastic condition. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:08 | |
That is one of my favourite tins because it was given to me by a visitor | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
who said, "Oh, I think I've got one at home, I'll send it to you." | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
It's that type of thing, which is so kind of people to add to our collection. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:24 | |
Is that how you get a lot of them? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
No, sadly most of them we have to buy, and it's slightly irksome | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
that my family sold these lovely tins full of biscuits for shillings | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
and we're now buying them back empty for hundreds of pounds. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
And how many have you bought back so far? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Oh, we must...we've got about 260 in the collection altogether | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
and I should think that 230 of them have actually been purchased. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
This doesn't look like any kind of biscuit tin, really. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
You'd never guess what that was for. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Well, funny enough, it is actually called Biscuit Barrel. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
It was found in the disused railway line at the bottom of the drive which was used as a rubbish dump. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:03 | |
One of the chaps who worked on the farm was scavenging to see what he could take out of the tip. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
He came across this, and it was in a terrible state. He cleaned it up and presented it to me with great pride. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:14 | |
And that was made in 1934 and is actually in quite good condition, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
-despite its provenance in a disused railway line. -It's as old as me! | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
Now, which is your favourite? | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Without a doubt, the favourite is the grandfather clock, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
and the particular thing about it is that the hands actually go round. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
This was made in 1929 and it was the last Christmas present | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
that my parents jointly gave me before my father died and, again, it's in good condition. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:45 | |
There are very few around that still actually have the hands working. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
This is your favourite, is it also the most valuable? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Well, some of your experts here might possibly disagree with me, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
but I would be disappointed if that didn't fetch about £1,100. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
It's all part of our history. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
I think that's what people find interesting about it, yes. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Do I detect from your accent that you're not from round here? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
-Absolutely. -Come along, tell us. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
New Zealand. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
You haven't come all the way from New Zealand to visit this show, surely? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Well, I was coming, and I saw on the internet that it was going to be here, so we made sure we came. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:26 | |
Well, I don't think we've had a visitor from as far as New Zealand ever. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
I mean, I travelled up from the south and 500 miles, as far as I was concerned, was quite enough, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
and halfway across the world, you bring us something that is so completely English. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
I know we've done Beatrix Potter, but I just had to ask you all the questions that these throw up. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:48 | |
This one here is a Christmas card, "To Mrs Hadfield, Christmas 1925 from Beatrix Potter." | 0:19:48 | 0:19:54 | |
And this one here, which is signed on the inside, which is almost nicer. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
"With all good wishes from Peter Rabbit to Barry, Christmas 1931." | 0:20:01 | 0:20:07 | |
I've never seen a Peter Rabbit signature before. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
But here is one. That's incredible. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Now first of all, who is Mrs Hadfield and who is Barry? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
Barry is my father, he's now 80. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Mrs Hadfield was my great-grandmother. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
Right, and how long have you been in New Zealand? | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
Or how long have the Hadfields been in New Zealand? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
-Since about 1838 or 1839. -Yes. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
My great-great-grandfather came to New Zealand from the Isle of Wight | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
and became the Second Bishop of Wellington | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
and the First Primate of New Zealand in the Church of England. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
Well, that's absolutely fantastic, and all the way from New Zealand. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
So how did they know Beatrix Potter? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Well, we're not quite sure exactly how they met, but my great-grandparents | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
were in England for some time seeking medical treatment for the cancer that my great-grandfather had | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
and it has to have been during that time, which would have been the early part of the 20th century. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:08 | |
-Would they have got up to the Lake District? -They could well have. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
-They could have gone up to the Lake District to recuperate. -Possibly. -Was he successfully treated? -No, sadly. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:19 | |
Oh, I'm sorry to hear it, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
but to have a friendship with Beatrix Potter - | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
albeit one quite late in her life, she died in 1942 - is rather nice. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
Now, you have put this one, I'm sure, into a frame. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Because it's faded. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
It's faded, so in some ways it's not quite as good as this one. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
This one's not faded because it's been closed up, but they're both absolutely fantastic. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
-What about values? Have you gone in for values of Beatrix Potter? -No. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Well, this side of the world, and in fact I think in Japan too, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
people are really, really very keen on Beatrix Potter. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
To get a whole Beatrix Potter signature, to get a Peter Rabbit signature is just wonderful. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
-So values, what do you think? -Really, honestly, I haven't got any idea. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:08 | |
-Right. -I guess they're in hundreds of pounds probably. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
Oh, they most certainly are. I'm going to put £500 on each. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
-Oh, really? -Yes. -Oh, wonderful. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
-Does that surprise you? -Yes, it does. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Thank you so much for coming all the way from New Zealand. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
You're welcome, thank you. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
When one comes to an Antiques Roadshow - | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
I'm talking about the experts now - | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
we like to feel that we're going to get something that day | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
that's going to make our day, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
and today it's happened for me. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Here we have | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
a naval General Service Medal with the Trafalgar Bar. Wonderful! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
Now come on, tell me all about it. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Well, it was awarded to my great-great-great-grandfather | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-who was press-ganged into the Navy as a boy. -Really? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
And he...we don't know really where he went until he ended up on the Temeraire at Trafalgar. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:03 | |
And sadly he lost his arm in the battle, was invalided out after the battle and went teaching, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:11 | |
and the students and the pupils knew him as Hook, so it was Hook Cowell. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:18 | |
Really? And when did he die, do you know? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
He died in the 1860s and was buried in the Isle of Man. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
-So quite a long life. -Yes. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
It's a good job that he did have a long life, because, you see... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
this medal was awarded in 1847, 1847-48. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:36 | |
What happened was, the Battle of Waterloo was in 1815 | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
and they gave, or awarded, a Waterloo medal in 1816. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
Everybody in the Navy that had fought in the Napoleonic Wars and all those chaps in the Peninsular War said, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:52 | |
"These fellows have fought for one day and they've got a silver medal. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
"We fought for six years and haven't got anything." So there was a lot of bad feeling. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
Now, from 1815 it rumbled on into the 1820s, they grumbled and grumbled - | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
the veterans - into the 1830s, into the 1840s, and Queen Victoria was on the throne by this time. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:14 | |
Then in 1847, they decided to award an Army General Service Medal and a Naval General Service Medal, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:22 | |
but the twist in the tail was you had to be a survivor. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
Your next of kin couldn't claim it. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
-So you see, your ancestor was alive and he managed to get his Trafalgar medal. -Goodness me. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:36 | |
-So that's the way it worked. -Goodness. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Round the edge here we have the name of the ship, the Temeraire. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
Now, the Temeraire was the ship that saved Victory, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
because when the Victory broke the line, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
she got on her starboard side the French ship, the Redoutable, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
and that's where the bullet came from that killed Nelson. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
The Temeraire came up on her starboard side | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
and took the heat off the Victory, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
so that was an important ship. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
Now, how much do you think this is worth? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
I honestly don't know, obviously it's been in our family for now... | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
around 200 years, and to be quite frank, it will hopefully stay for another 200 years, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
but I would be very, very curious to know what it would be worth. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Well, I can tell you. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
This medal, if it was put on the market today, and heaven forbid that you did it, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:37 | |
-would fetch £5,000. -Wow... Really? | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
-Yes. -That's fantastic. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
I know it's a well-worn phrase, but you've made my day. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
Well, you've made mine, thank you. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Well, they said it was going to be changeable | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
and it is changing into something horribly familiar - rain. So I'm afraid it's off to the marquee. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
Well, I can just about make the signature under here. Do you know what it says? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
-I've no idea. -You haven't looked at it? -No. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
Guilleman, a French sculptor, Emile Guilleman, working in Paris | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
around the turn of the 19th century, so 1890-1910, that sort of thing. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
It's a wonderful figure, where did you get it from? | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Well, we've just always had it in the family, I've no idea where it came from originally. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
I think it's just spectacular, I love the expression on his face, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
but do you know why he's got a spot on his nose? Do you think it's acne or bronze disease or something? | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
No, somebody once said maybe it had a fly on his nose. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
Well, that's exactly what it was. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
I've only seen one of these before with the fly actually intact, and if you look at his expression, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
I don't know if we can see it, but he's looking with his right eye here, he's trying to look at the... | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
fly on his nose, and his left eye, he's looking to the left, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
trying to look at the frets here. So he's trying to continue playing with this fly on his nose going... | 0:27:01 | 0:27:07 | |
-And he can't... -He can't do it. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
Now, there's one critical thing with this, and when I first saw you | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
bringing it in, I thought, "It's a bronze banjo boy." | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
The problem is, when you actually touch it and you feel it, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
you can see, if you like, the acne again, especially on the guitar and the greyness of the little tuning... | 0:27:20 | 0:27:28 | |
button there. That greyness and the roughness indicate that it's spelter. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
-Ah. -So it's an alloy, it's not...well, it's a softer metal. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
It's therefore easier to cast, therefore it's cheaper, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
and that's going to affect our value. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
-Oh, dear. -But I still think it would cost you, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
just cleaned up and refreshed on this lovely wooden stand, which I think is totally original... | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
-Is it? Oh. -Lovely beech stand, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Guilleman, well-known sculptor... | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
..as only spelter, £3,000. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
Really? Gosh, I wish he'd been bronze! | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
It was a piece that I chose from my aunt's attic when she asked me if there was anything I'd like. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
It caught my eye because it was very ornately carved and, when I'd chosen it, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:18 | |
she said, "Well, there's a story that goes with this desk," | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
-and it turned out that the desk belonged to an explorer called Joseph Thomson. -Right. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:28 | |
Who's probably the most famous explorer you've never heard of. He explored Africa, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:34 | |
walked 15,000 miles to Africa and maybe... | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Can I say Thomson's Gazelle? Is that...am I in the right area? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
That's the right area, and a waterfall I believe named after him as well. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
-What date are we dealing with - for him? -Turn of the century. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
-1880-1890, that sort of thing. -Yes, he died very young actually. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:57 | |
-So this desk presumably was brought back from one of his travels. -Are these his as well? | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
-These are his as well. -So we've got a Japanese sword, which is of about the 1880s, so therefore that fits in. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:09 | |
This, as I say, is about the 1870s, so we're beginning to see a man | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
who likes exotic things. Do we know what he looks like? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
-We do, we have this biography that was written by his brother. -Yes. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
His photograph is in the beginning. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
So there he is. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Well, he looks a very sort of straight, upright, late-Victorian gentleman. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
-He's obviously had a taste for the exotic. -Why? -Because later on there's a photograph of him... | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
In here? Oh, look. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
So he was...he was a man of sort of distinctive taste. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Indeed, indeed, he was obviously very exuberant. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
So there we have him in Moorish costume. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Now, that again is actually very fashionable, dressing up | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
was fashionable, and dressing up in what they called Oriental style, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
which meant Middle Eastern, was very much something that people did at that time. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
So you chose it from this lady? | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
-I did. -Why did she have it? She had it because her aunt had a large house | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
in Edinburgh, and Joseph Thomson lodged with Alexander Anderson. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
-Ah, now, who's he? -He's a poet. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
He was a surfaceman on the railway, self taught, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
and he called himself Surfaceman when he wrote his poems... | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
And these are his books? He had a prodigious output. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
He certainly did, for a self-taught railway worker. Thomson and Anderson were great friends... | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
What was the nature of their friendship, how great were they? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
-Well, the book records him as an intimate friend. -Right. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
So an interesting story of Victorian life. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-Now, this is Anderson. -This is Anderson, yes, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
who was painted by the third man in the triumvirate, if you like. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
-Did they all live together? -I think there was a spell where they were all together in Edinburgh | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
when this artist was exhibiting. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
-So here we have Anderson painted by...? -James Paterson. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
James Paterson, a very well-known Scottish artist, so we've got an artist, a poet and an explorer. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
-All together. -Living together. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
I suppose in conventional terms we think of these things as having some value, which they do, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:11 | |
but really the value of it to me is this extraordinary... | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
spotlight into a certain type of intellectual, demi-monde, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
slightly risque life in late-Victorian Scotland. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
I mean, to deal with the values, it's very simple. The desk would sell for about £1,500. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:31 | |
The sword is about...£400-600. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
The painting is interesting academically because it's so early for Paterson. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
It's not a great Paterson painting, he went on to become a much better landscape painter. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Its interest really is within the story, so you're looking at... | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
£800-1,000, so collectively it's not huge sums of money, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
but I think that's unimportant. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
Do you know what this item's for? | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
-No, I don't. -Do you do anything with it? | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
Yes, I've got po... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
-Pot pourri? -Exactly. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
-That's what most people do with them, but in fact it's a koro, which is a Japanese incense burner. -Oh, really? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:12 | |
But it was never meant for that use. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
That's the form of this, with the pierced cover to let the smoke out, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
but these were made for export, this is a piece of Satsuma ware. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
-Oh. -And I'm sure that what you're doing with it is absolutely right. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
It was... meant for keeping pot pourri in. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
This one is the sort of brocade type and was made around the 1870s. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:41 | |
Really? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:42 | |
I love it, it's... | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
rich colours, rich enamels, rich gilding and it works beautifully as an object. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:51 | |
-You like it? -Yes, I do like it. -OK, take great care of it. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
When you put your pot pourri in it and when you change it, try not to damage it. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
-I will. -Cos it's actually worth quite a lot of money. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
-Is it, really? -Yeah, £500 is quite a lot of money, isn't it? -500?! | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
-No, £2,000. -What?! | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
£2,000. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
-Oh, never! -Uh-huh. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
£2,000... Oh, goodness. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Thank you very much for bringing it in. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
Oh, I'm absolutely... | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
and it's not often it happens, but I am speechless this time. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
I know we're in farming country here, but the last thing I expected to see | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
was three superbly made models of ploughs. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
Where on earth do they come from? | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
These were made by my great-grandfather in 1895. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
I come from a long line of blacksmiths and he was a blacksmith, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
as were my ancestors back for at least the past 200 years. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
-Hang on. Made by a blacksmith? -A blacksmith. -Not a silversmith? -No. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
Good heavens. And why would he have made these things? | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
Well, being a blacksmith, he will have made full-size versions of these for the farms. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:01 | |
They would have been pulled by Clydesdale horses, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
and I think in those days that the blacksmiths actually | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
wanted to compete amongst each other to see who could make the best miniature ploughs | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
and enter them in competitions. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
-I believe that these were entered in a competition and won an exhibition in Aberdeen. -Good heavens. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:22 | |
Well, as I say, the first thing that strikes me is how superbly they are made. And I notice that this moves | 0:34:22 | 0:34:30 | |
up and down and everything works as it should do. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:36 | |
And I imagine this is a perfect scale model of the... | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
I've just noticed for the first time today | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
that there's actually a spanner here | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
and the spanner actually fits every single bolt... | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
-Isn't that wonderful? -..on the actual piece. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
-Attention to detail. -So it all works. -Like that. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
And I notice they've got some signatures on them. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
What does it say? George...? | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
That's George Ledingham and then it's got Clatt, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
which is a village by Premnay and Auchleven up in Aberdeenshire. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
-Oh, right. -That's where they were made. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
George, was he your grandfather? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
George was my great-grandfather. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
My grandfather...I almost can't remember his first name | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
because he was just, to my knowledge, called the Smith. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
-Were you never tempted to become a blacksmith? -You can see by my hands that I've never done | 0:35:22 | 0:35:28 | |
a hand's turn of work other than push pens, so I've not been a blacksmith. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
It's actually quite unusual to see models like this actually chrome plated. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:40 | |
I think they're chrome plated, they've got that very hard finish to them | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
which makes me think that they're not silver plated. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
You occasionally see them in museums and things, but they're never plated like this, are they? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:55 | |
I've seen only recently - I think it's the Scottish Agricultural Museum just south of Glasgow - | 0:35:55 | 0:36:01 | |
I've seen a lot of very similar ploughs to this in there, but nothing I've seen there has been | 0:36:01 | 0:36:08 | |
of the same quality, they've been painted or almost like wrought iron rather than this sort of quality. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:14 | |
Well, I think they're absolutely wonderful things. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
They are incredibly difficult to put a value on. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
Whether they're worth £500 each or £1,000 each, I don't know. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
These things virtually never come on the market. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
-I'm sure they're not gonna be anything you're ever gonna sell. -No. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
They really are family pieces, so thank you for bringing them along. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
Thank you very much, thank you. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Made in Staffordshire around about 1880. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
We see hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these all of the time. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
Nice things, comforter dogs, they sat on Welsh dressers. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
Not particularly rare. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
But this piece here, I want to know where he came from. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
Well, as far as I know, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
it come through... | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
the wife's side of the family. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
-And these come from? -My mother's side of the family. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
-You married the right woman. -Did I? Oh, well, I've done very well. -Well, he's a Crufts champion, look at him. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
Isn't he fantastic? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
Well, we've never really thought of what it was. We actually had it on the telephone table | 0:37:14 | 0:37:21 | |
and the kids used to play with it. I was told to put it away safely. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
-Well, you haven't got the other one, I don't suppose. -No, we haven't. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
That is a shame. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
The size, for a start, he's a fabulous size. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
You do see larger Staffordshire dogs than these. Seldom do you see anything on this scale. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:43 | |
The colours of the glazes, I mean, the brown-lead glaze | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
and this tortoiseshell mottling on the bottom is very attractive. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
The important thing about him is where he comes from. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-I don't know. -He's a Scottish one. He is a Scottish dog. | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
Probably somewhere near Fife, a possibility, I don't think there's any... | 0:38:02 | 0:38:07 | |
sign of a factory mark. There very seldom is on spaniels like this. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
Or I think they're sometimes known up here as woolly dugs, is that right? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
-Wally dugs. -Ah, wally dugs. Do you call him a wally dug? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
No, not that one, but we call these wally dugs. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
I think because they were to put on the wall, on the mantelpiece, I think that's how the... | 0:38:25 | 0:38:31 | |
-Oh, is that where it comes from? -I think that's a wally dug. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
-It's not cos he's a woolly dog? -No. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Hairy, I suppose. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
A date for this, it's very similar actually to the Staffordshire ones, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
so it's the second half of the 19th century, and they continued making into the 20th century. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
I just think he's magnificent. He's just so much away from the usual. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:55 | |
-Haven't had a valuation ever done on these? -Well, there was one chap did offer us £200. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
If he'd offered you £200 for that, you should have taken it like a shot. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
This one, if he'd offered you... | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
..£800, it still wouldn't be enough. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
A single one of these at auction would be somewhere around £1,200. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
Oh, gee whiz. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:20 | |
It's a very good thing. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Well now, this is in a bit of a state, really, been through the wars. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
What do you want to know about it? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Just if it's worth any money. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Oh, fair enough, yes. OK, well, what do we know about it? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
We know that it's by an artist called Chamberlaine | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
because there's a label on the back giving us his name, Christopher Chamberlaine. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:49 | |
And we know that it was submitted to the Royal Academy in 1952. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
And we know where it is as well, it's Burnthwaite Road | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
round the back of Fulham Broadway in London. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
But being 1952, there is some sort of bomb damage around in this area. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:05 | |
They were not hit by bombs, amazingly, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
but I feel that this hoarding might be hiding an area where the end of the terrace was blown away by a bomb. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:16 | |
-And it says "A bomb" on the hoarding, did you notice that? -No, I didn't. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
Well, this is the time of all the nuclear testing of atom bombs | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
and I wondered if that was like a protest. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
What's interesting to me about this picture is that it's kind of like... | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
There's a school of painting in London called the Euston Road School | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
that got going just before the beginning of the Second War, and what they wanted to do was show | 0:40:35 | 0:40:42 | |
everyday life in London and how beautiful that was, or could be, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
and how interesting it could be as a subject for painting and how visually interesting it could be. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:53 | |
And if you look at this, there is a lot going on. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
You've got this fellow on crutches, he might be a war veteran hobbling along the street. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
He's avoiding the ladder. He doesn't want to walk under the ladder and lose the other leg. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:06 | |
I don't really know but, erm... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
And this broken-down old cart, which looks like rag and bone or something. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
Looking at it, do you...do you think you...? Do you like it? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
No. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
-You really don't like it, do you? -No, no, I don't. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
-Have you ever looked at it or hung it at all? -No, no, I didn't. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
Did you know that in 1952 this was hung on the line in the Royal Academy at Burlington House? | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
-No. -Which means that it's at eye level, the highest accolade... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
JET FIGHTER ROARS OVERHEAD | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
The RAF doesn't agree. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
The RAF really doesn't agree. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
I don't know where that came from. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
-But any rate, yes, it was hung on the line in the Royal Academy. -Yes. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
Now, that was the best position it could possibly be given, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
-so this picture was really rated. -I put it up on the wall and I thought, "Oh, it's too dull." | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
I just put it up in the attic and it's been there ever since | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
and it wasn't until we were having the roof insulated | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
-that I came across it again. -This WAS the insulation. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
That's right! So I took it down and I said, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
"I'll take that to Manderston and find out..." I only paid a pound for it, so I thought, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:27 | |
"If it's not, I'll just get rid of it." | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
What do you mean, get rid of it? | 0:42:30 | 0:42:31 | |
-Well, put it in the bin or something, if it wasn't... -I see. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
-Well, you'd be throwing away 2,000 or 3,000 quid. -Oh! | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
Ooh... I'm looking at it in a different light now! | 0:42:41 | 0:42:47 | |
What, so none of the explanation works, but the money did? | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Yes. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
Manderston used to be well-known for its three-day house parties. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
Just the one day for us, I'm afraid, but it has been a lot of fun. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
Many thanks to Lord Palmer for his hospitality and for showing us his biscuit tins. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
And now, as the storm clouds gather again over Manderston House, until the next time, goodbye. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 |