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This week the Roadshow has come to a city of contrasts and superlatives, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
a city of granite, a city of flowers. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
Its quarries have created the biggest hole in Europe | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
and it runs the oldest business in Britain. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
SHIP'S HORN BLOWS | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
Sitting at the mouth of the River Dee, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Aberdeen harbour has been a successful enterprise for nearly 900 years. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
It first started charging ships an entrance fee back in 1136 | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
and its continuous use has earned it a place in the Guinness Book Of Records. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
It's all the more remarkable | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
because the harbour wasn't blessed with many natural advantages - quite the opposite, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
it was incredibly shallow and full of treacherous moving sandbanks. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
Not ideal conditions for large ships. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
HORN BLOWS | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
But with hard work it proved a success | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
and has been the cornerstone of the Aberdeen economy down the centuries. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
The wealth that came from herring, salmon, granite and oil has resulted in a unique city | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
with buildings of a suitable grandeur. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
From the oldest town house in town... | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
..to the so-called wedding cake of Marischal College, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
when the weather's right, Aberdeen shimmers. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Pretty well all the buildings here are made of granite | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
and that's what catches the light. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Some call it the silver city. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
Sitting on the magnificent mile-long Union Street and another tribute to the great rock | 0:02:12 | 0:02:18 | |
is our venue for today, the Aberdeen Music Hall. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
The front of the building with its dramatic Doric columns | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
was built in 1822 as Assembly Rooms | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
and won the designer a prize of 50 guineas. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
30 years later a great concert hall was added, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and so the Music Hall was born. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
The hall is renowned for its acoustics. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
With a curved ceiling and a wooden floor, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
the sound bounces around very nicely. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Now we hear a gentle murmur | 0:02:46 | 0:02:47 | |
as the people of Aberdeen enter the Music Hall | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
to join the Roadshow's troop of experts... | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
The performance is about to begin. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
We know about fairies and pixies, but do you believe in firbolgs? | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Not really. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Because that's what these little creatures are, firbolgs, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
very strange breed of the fairy folk. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
There are so many of them on there, aren't there? What's the background? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
My father bought it at a big house, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
-at a sale, an auction, I think it was 1952 or '53. -Oh. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
And, you know, he just loved it and it's been in the family ever since. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
Do you remember the cost? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
I have no...never... I have no idea what it was. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
We're looking at a kind of pottery here made by Wedgwood... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
well at about 1920. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
Eccentric designer at Wedgwood, Daisy Makeig-Jones invented this... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
strange images of fairyland and she called her creatures firbolgs. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Let's have a look at some of these creatures. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
We've got here a pine tree and these little folk are falling out of the tree. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
Firbolgs were rather unfortunate, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
a lot of accidents happened to them and they were generally a bit frightened themselves. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
That one there, oh, he's actually got caught up in the trees, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
looks like his pants are being pulled off by the tree and other chaps are running away. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
They're a bit frightening, aren't they? | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
-I wouldn't like to meet them. -No. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
So, um, we understand perhaps why people didn't rush out to buy these when they were new. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
That really is the crucial thing, because people didn't buy these when they were introduced in 1919. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
This was only made for a couple of years, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-this particular design and colouring. -I see. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
And that makes it actually quite rare. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Daisy Makeig-Jones gave her fairyland lustre designs individual numbers. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
This is her number four which is one of the rarest of the patterns. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
Because it was a bit strange, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
people didn't like it and they didn't rush out to buy it. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Then it was discovered again in the 1970s, early '80s by... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
particularly American collectors started to pay considerable sums | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
for pieces like these. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
Since then prices have been rising and rising and now they're serious collectables internationally. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
So a vase like that one in fine condition, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
today we're looking at... | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
-what, £3,500? -Gosh, no, I couldn't believe that. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:10 | |
And another £3,000 there. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Heavens, that's unbelievable, I mean I thought they'd be worth something, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
but I had no idea. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Right, here we have Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
from the famous picture by Walt Disney, so where did you get it? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
It belonged to my mother-in-law who was given it as a present | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
from her aunt who was a nurse in a hospital in America during the '30s. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
Um, well I think the film was 1936, wasn't it? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
I'm not entirely sure... I think so. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
The stitching is rather loose. Obviously it was given to a child who liked to read it, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:51 | |
and play with it, but the most extraordinary thing about this fairly insignificant book, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
is this magnificent signature of Walt Disney himself. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
Now the problem with Walt Disney's signature is | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
there were a lot of studio assistants who actually did it for him. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:09 | |
The right Walt Disney is this roundness. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
Too many of the other ones are square, but these are all round | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
and you can see his wonderful flowing handwriting. So, I... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
He was visiting the hospital that she was a nurse... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-You should have told me that in the first place, I... -OK. He signed it in front of her. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
So it is, well the story goes, it was him that actually signed it. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
I think that's absolutely fantastic. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
So the book itself, not a lot of money, but with the Walt Disney signature, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:41 | |
-we're talking about somewhere in the region of £500 to £800... -Wow. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
-What about that? -Yeah, wow. I would never sell it, but... | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
We're in the lowlands today but I was hoping somebody would bring | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
something like this which actually is more traditionally known as from the highlands. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
Yes, that's true. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
It's a basket-hilted broadsword. Where did you get it from? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
I got it from a junk shop in the Gallowgate in Glasgow in 1949 | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
and it cost me two quid. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
-£2? -Yes, because... | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
I was really, at that time, greatly interested in Scottish history. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
It was a month's wages delivering papers in those days. That's what it was. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
You were earning 10 shillings a week? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
-Ten bob a week. -50 pence a week? -Yeah. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
-And you were how old at the time? -I was...18 at the time, yeah. -18, OK. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:34 | |
Well, what we have is a traditional Scottish broadsword... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:41 | |
not claymore, people in the south think they're called claymores... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
they're called broadswords. A claymore is a completely different item. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
It's a lovely object, though, and what did you want to know about it? Why did you bring it in? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
Well, I wanted to know if it really was genuine or just a Victorian copy. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:00 | |
OK, well from a technical point of view | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
the pommel is the interesting thing | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
because that's certainly more like an English broadsword pommel | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
rather than a Scottish pommel, but forget that - it could have been replaced. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
The sword itself is a very good example | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
of an 18th-century, mid-18th-century Scottish basket-hilted broadsword, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:23 | |
-so it is a genuine piece. -The real thing? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
-Oh, that's braw. -It's the real thing and it's 18th century. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
But I suppose having paid £2 for it, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
a month's wages, you'd like to know what it's worth today. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
Not really, I'm not all that concerned. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
-You're not concerned? -No I'm not. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-It'll stay in the family, I'm not selling it. -I'm glad it's staying in the family | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
but of course these things do have a commercial value, you know. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
-Uh-huh. -And, a month's wages in 19... when was this? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
-1949. -1949, which was £2 for you, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
would convert into £1,500 to £2,000 today. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
Och, away, it's not worth that! | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
That! | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Piece of junk. GRAHAM LAUGHS | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
It's a piece of junk I would willingly take home with me. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
I can't believe that. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
Honest to God, I honestly thought it was a piece of Victorian kitsch. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
Highly collectable 18th century sword, there you go. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Thank you very much, that's braw! Oh, great, thank you very much. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
Now, obviously you spend your time sailing the seas. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
I wish. I mean, this was obviously the heyday of the ocean liners. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
-So have you ever been on a ship? -No, no. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
So all this is fantasy, in a way? | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Yes, I mean it's such a bygone age that's never going to be repeated. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:45 | |
So in terms of your collection, what does this represent? Half, tenth? | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Not even half, this would be the tip of the iceberg. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
-So it's a real Titanic experience? -It is, yes. -Right. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
How did you get into this? Where does it start? | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
I'd say it was the film Titanic, started reading the books about her, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
then reading books on other liners and then woke up one morning, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
went up to my local antiques centre and started off with a 50 pence postcard of the Queen Mary. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
So this is the cause of it all? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
-It is. -So, if you hadn't bought that postcard you'd have a nice empty house? | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
Yes, more than likely - and a very large bank balance. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
So...let's deal with it by section. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Shipping postcards, presumably you've got albums of them, have you? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Yes, well I've got about 700. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
OK, so this launched 700 other cards. What do they fetch? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:37 | |
Your typical postcard, I mean, no more... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
-£5? -Yeah, some of the rare ones like from the Lusitania, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
the early ones, you might pay a bit more. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Yes. But somebody could build up a good collection of shipping postcards | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
-never paying more than £5, couldn't they? You could still do it. -Yes. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
So this is a very accessible area. Let's move on... | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Now, menus I've always loved, I think menus are wonderful | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
because they're wonderfully dated ephemera, what date is that? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
-I mean, that's 1930s... -It has to be. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
And here we have a menu for supper and cabaret on the Mauritania, great ship. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
By then it's the second Mauritania. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
-No, no, it's still the first. -Still the first, is it? Oh, '32 yes. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
But she's gone into her cruising white and she was on a cruise to Gibraltar. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
At this point. So you can bring it all back to life, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
you know what the ships were doing, you've done the research. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Everything depends on the ship, is that fair? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
It does, that is very fair. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
-I mean, it's like a breakfast menu from the Lusitania, upwards of over £100. -Yes. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:37 | |
An everyday one from Queen Mary from the late '60s, £5. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
That's stuff that you could buy, that was given away. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
Everything else here, putting it crudely, you had to steal, didn't you? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
-Yes, unfortunately and obviously the smaller items like cutlery and that easy to... -Went into pockets. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:54 | |
Quite how something like... | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
The great cooking pot. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
..which I'm guessing as I imported that back from America is possibly off one of the Queens. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
And here we have the White Star vegetable dish, off... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
-do you know what it's off? -Possibly the Olympic. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
So it's the Titanic's sister ship, so the Titanic was fitted with things like this. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Exactly the same design because I have seen examples of that dish brought up from the wreck. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
So we know this is a Titanic-style piece. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
So does that give it a premium? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Yes, I mean upwards of £300 to £400. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Now, have you got any Titanic stuff? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
-No. -Would you ever want a Titanic thing? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Well, like I say, I mean my whole collection is probably worth one Titanic menu card. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
Yeah, OK, we'd better sum up in terms of values. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
We've talked about £5 or so for the cards and the menus, a really good bit of metalwork can be £300, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:48 | |
a teapot can be £50 to £100. What's your collection worth? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
£10,000? | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
-And the rest. -And the rest. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
My approximate value would be somewhere in the region of sort of £20,000, £25,000. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
Are you a driven man? Are you an addict? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-I would say I'm bordering on addict. -You're in danger. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
-Yes. -Well, you'll need a bigger flat. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-That's all there is to it. -Yes, thank you very much. -Thank you very much. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
When I was young, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
my husband and I used to go dancing every night of the week from Monday to Sunday... | 0:13:15 | 0:13:22 | |
-In the old days when you had on an evening dress, you had to have an evening bag. -Of course. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:29 | |
So this is my two evening bags. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
-This one I got from the old ladies next door. -Yes. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
And this one has a waterproof lining. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
-Right. -And I bought it myself. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
-You did? -Yes. -Well, that's why you're so spruce now because... | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
-Well, I still go dancing every Friday. -You don't! No, give over. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
To Broom Hill Leisure Activity Centre. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
You were born, you told me in...? | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-Eh, 1915, the 13th of December 1915. -And you're still dancing. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:05 | |
And I'm still dancing and I was dancing with Lionel Blair. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
-You weren't! We ought to get you to dance with Michael Aspel on this dance floor. -Yes, yes, I will. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
-You will? -I'll waltz. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
I'll hold you to it. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Now, we've got something else here. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Tell me how you got this. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
This come from the two old ladies | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
-who live next door to me. -Yeah. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
It's an old-fashioned bottle-opener. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Absolutely. And in fact... | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-what I would do is hold the bottle first and screw that in. -Screw that in. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
And then it's right down, then you put this on the bottle. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
-Put it on, yes. -Then put that into there so it's like that. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
-And then squeeze. -And then you pull up. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
And it takes the cork out. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Now this is by William Lund 1855, it says it here | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
and it was made in London, so he was a well known corkscrew maker, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:08 | |
and these are worth somewhere in the region of £150. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
-You're still going to go home and use it? -Yes. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
Well, this is a pretty wacky little spaceship, isn't it? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Tell me about it. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
I don't know anything about it, I got it at a car boot sale, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
it was on the floor and I was walking along and picked it up and bought it and that's all I know. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
-And you like it? -I love it, I really do. It's so unusual, everybody comments on it and... | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
It's a really wacky piece of glass. This is made by pouring glass into a mould. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:45 | |
This is called sand casting, you make an object in...plaster | 0:15:45 | 0:15:52 | |
and you push it into damp sand, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
then you pour the glass into the mould you've just created, let it cool very, very slowly | 0:15:55 | 0:16:01 | |
otherwise it'll crack up. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Then you tint, stain the back to create that look. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
We know who made it because she's written her name on it, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
which is very helpful, we like her for doing that. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-Yes, I know. -And it says "a unique sand casting by Sarah Peterson" | 0:16:14 | 0:16:21 | |
Now, this is what's called studio glass. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Technology has moved on to a point where instead of needing a factory to make glass, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
-you can almost make glass at home. -Right. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
You can get all the equipment and it's like home-made glass-making. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Now, there are hundreds and thousands of people doing this. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
I've had a look on the internet for who Sarah Peterson is, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
and there is one in Colorado but it may or may not be this one. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
The point about studio glass is that a value structure has yet to be established. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:53 | |
-You see a piece, if you like it, you consider it to be worth it, you buy it. -Right. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
If you think that's a good price. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
-Uh-huh. -So, bearing in mind that you bought it in a booty for...? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
£10. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
-Well, I think it's got to be worth £200 at it is. -Honest? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
I do, and time may tell whether Sarah Peterson is really the one to collect | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
and this has been a fantastic bargain instead of just being a fab piece of glass | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
that you love around the house. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
-OK, thanks very much. -Not at all. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Michael. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Cath, my body is yours, shall we dance? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-OK, now don't lead, will you? -WALTZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
Something like this poses lots of questions. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Firstly it's not Scottish | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
-or English or Irish, it's not British, it's Flemish. -It's Flemish? OK. -Yes, Flemish. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
It would have been... Well, it is oak... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
-you can see the graining of the oak just but it's been blackened and the gilding's been added later. -OK. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
Possibly, I should guess, in the 19th century | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-which gives some of its age away, you've already guessed it's probably older. -OK. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
We've got this lock here. Well, you know that's an honest replacement, isn't it? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
You can see there's a very old looking lock | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
-but with a great big hole where a bigger lock would have been... -Yes, yes. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
-Clearly that's been altered. -Yes. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
You can just see the wonderful dryness of that back panel. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-Yes. -That's the colour I would like to have seen on the outside. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
I'm not worried about the gilt decoration and the black, not too much. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
-My first reaction... wow, it's a blinder. -OK. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
Then I looked again and thought...not so sure. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Then I started looking at the detail and you get lost, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
you look at all these details all over the place. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
The first one I noticed - and the reason for standing on this side - is this chap. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
-OK. -He's rather good looking. -Yes, very regal. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
-You know why he's good looking? -Oh. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
-Perfect. -Yes. -His moustache. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
He's pointing at her, over there. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
-Right, I've never noticed that before. -She's pointing at him. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
-It's very odd, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:28 | |
-That to me is very 17th century type of carving. -OK. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
The whole shape, proportions of it are 17th century Flemish | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
and fairly early 17th century, we're talking 1620-1650. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
-What, this part? -Yeah, and the general scale and proportion of it. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
I'll tell you what I don't understand is the carving up here. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
This gadrooned fish scale type carving here and the gadrooning here, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
they're not as good or as strongly carved as the carving for example on the door below here. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:57 | |
This is much more typical of the 1620-30 period | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
whereas that is more typical of the 1650-80 period. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
-So someone somewhere has done a bit of fiddling about. -Mm. -I think this was taller. -Was it? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:12 | |
And it's been reduced in height, possibly because it wouldn't fit into a small cottage, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
having been made for one of those great big Dutch houses, one of those huge houses with tiled floors. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
-I think most of this top part is new. -OK. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
-When I say "new", not 1630. -OK. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Have you ever thought about that? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
I've looked in many a book to try and find where it's come from, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
what it's about, and I can't figure it out at all. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
-Well, you've come to the right place. -Ah, wonderful. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
-Because we've had it for a few hours... -Yeah. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
-we took a digital photograph... -You're joking. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
sent them down to an armorial expert in London. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
-Oh, you've made my day. -When you look at the photograph, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
the owl there shows it's the McTaggart family. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-Married into the McGowan family. -OK. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
So a Scottish family who moved to England... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
this is the interesting bit for me... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-who moved to England in 1830. -My word. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
What is really fascinating, because they moved to England in 1830, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
that's when there was a wonderful tournament called the Eglinton Tournament | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
where they did medieval revivals, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
people were dressing up in suits of armour pretending they were medieval knights. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
-OK. -Sir Walter Scott was writing - couldn't get a greater Scottish writer. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-Yes. -Was writing about this romantic period of the 17th century. So what has happened... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
This has been, in my opinion, cut and shut in about 1830 for this family, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
down in England when this was all the rage and the great fashion. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
I am gobsmacked, absolutely gobsmacked that we've got a result on this one. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
I just think it's, it's exactly the historical piece as I'd want to see it | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
and I'm as gobsmacked as you, to be able to do that research and to be able to find out... | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
It answers all the questions that I've been looking at and that's confirmed. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
-A result. -Fantastic. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
How much did you pay? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
I didn't, I didn't really grudge the money at all. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-What did you pay? -£1,200 and I think it was well worth it. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
Not bad. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
I thought that it was probably worth, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
as cut and shut, today about £5,000. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
-Now we've got that documented history. -Yeah? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
-I want to up that a little. -You're joking! | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
So for retail replacement, if you bought it from the same antique dealer, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
who now would know more about it, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
he'd probably... let's say charge you £6,000. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
That's phenomenal. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Well, it's going back in the cottage anyway, that's where it's going. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
-That's why they cut the top off. -Yes! -To get in the cottage. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
I know Scotland is the home of golf, but this is the wackiest club I've ever seen. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
-Yes, indeed. -What can you tell me about it? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Well, we found it in my wife's house when we were clearing out | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
-and...we took it to the golf museum in St Andrews. -Right. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
And, they identified the maker, I think it was a company called Ayres, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
they said they hadn't seen one before but they thought it was a driver. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
Doesn't work as a driver, does it? | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
-Doesn't really, no. -No, I think it's one of these patent putters... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
As today, you know everybody wants to putt well | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
and they buy the latest gizmo, be it a ping putt or whatever it is, or a long shafted one. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
I am sure this is much more of a putter, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
it's got no playing surface to be used as a driver. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
-But I've never seen this shape. -Indeed. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Well, I think you've got something of extraordinary rarity, um... | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
and the market goes up and down, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
The Far Eastern collectors were paying silly prices ten years ago. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
They're coming back in a small way to the market. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
-I would see this fetching £1,200, £1,500 today. -Gosh. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
-Do you play golf? -I do indeed. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
Well, why don't you give it a go? If you can get it in the hole, then hang on to it. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
-OK, thanks. -Thanks for bringing it in. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
I want you to picture a world where in the domestic environment, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
electricity had hardly been thought about and gas was for the very, very wealthy. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
A clock of this type, in other words, a carriage clock, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
always came in one of these leather travelling boxes. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
And they always had a flap in the front | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
that could be parked in the back, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
to reveal the clock during transit. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Think of this being dragged along to a lovely late Victorian or Edwardian house party... | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
a marvellous thing to pop by the side of your bed, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
you couldn't click on the light switch so you pressed the button | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
and... | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
it repeated to the preceding hour. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
Well, the slight give away that it's a fairly late example | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
is what we call the arcaded minute ring, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
those little floral swags that just go all the way round there. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
We have the maker's name: EM & Co, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
that's Maurice and Company and above that it says "French make". | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
That is a sign with that dial that it's going to be early 20th century, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:09 | |
pretty much for our Edwardian market, so sort of 1905, 1910 perhaps. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
We've got some lovely columns here with superb enamel all the way down | 0:25:15 | 0:25:22 | |
in this lovely white, red and blue. It's ever so handsome. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
And this would have been a very, very expensive clock new. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
So it sits at home, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
hidden, clearly not insured or anything...or do you have it insured? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
-It's only covered by the house insurance...at the moment. -Great. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
So, if it went missing, it wouldn't really be the end of your world? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
This is before I take it away now, of course. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
If it was to go missing, God forbid, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
to replace that, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
would be costing you | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
in the region of £4,000. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
So I want you to get it out of wherever you keep it at home and just love it a little bit more. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:08 | |
-Will do. -Good man. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Well, so thrilled and so delighted that you've brought along these items today. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:18 | |
In amongst this collection of Communion silver | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
there's one thing that immediately jumped out for me. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
We've come all the way here to Aberdeen and here we are | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
with a piece by James Cromer Watt | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
which I recognised instantly | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
-from the work of delicate enamelling around the base. -Yes. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
Perhaps you could give us an idea what you know about it. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
Well, it was commissioned during the ministry of James Cooper, at the east parish of St Nicholas. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:49 | |
He was minister in the latter part of the 19th century there and left in 1899 | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
and this was a gift to him on his departure. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Then when he died, his wife gave it back to the church. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
That was very generous of her. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:03 | |
The thing about Cromer Watt was he principally made jewellery | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
and always with delicate enamelling, usually with copper foil backgrounds and this just jumps out at you | 0:27:07 | 0:27:13 | |
as being a fabulous piece of his work. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Also the use of local pearls from the River Don and garnets here. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:22 | |
He trained at Glasgow School of Art and then set up a workshop in Aberdeen around about 1890s, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
so this ties in as probably a very early commission for him | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
-and one that he's put a huge amount of effort and workmanship into getting it just correct. -Yes. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
It's also fascinating that in the whole group of Communion silver that you've brought along today, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:44 | |
principally these pieces here are from a much earlier date, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
-they date from about 1740-1750. -That's right, yes. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
All I can say is that you've got the most fabulous thing | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
amongst other pieces here, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
-this just jumps out as being absolutely astonishing. -Yes. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
It should really be a museum piece | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
but it's in safe keeping in the church. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
-It's in safe keeping and we do use it on high holidays. -It's still in use? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
-It's still in use. -Well, all I would say is be very careful with it... | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
It is fragile. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-It's a difficult thing to value, because obviously you couldn't replace it. -No. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
But you're looking at something probably in the order of £10,000. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
NEWSREEL ANNOUNCER: 'Ladies and gentlemen, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
'stand by for an important announcement. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
'We're interrupting our programme for a piece of news for which we've all been waiting. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:40 | |
'The management announce with due thankfulness | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
'the official confirmation that hostilities in Europe have ceased.' | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
FANFARE | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
-What a relief! That's been going on since 1939. -I know. It's a long time. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:57 | |
Where did you get this from? | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
My granddad was a projectionist in the cinema and just before the war finished | 0:28:59 | 0:29:04 | |
these were sent out to cinemas around | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
and it was just waiting for the confirmation that the war was over | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
and then they had to interrupt the movie | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
and play this to the people in the cinema. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
-But not like this... it was on a disc? -No, no, I have the disc here, yes. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
So each cinema had got a copy of that announcement we've just heard, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
-before the war was over, to be ready when it did. -Yeah. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
So everyone else is listening to the wireless, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
and if you went to the pictures, this is how you heard it. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
-Yep. -The end of World War II, wow. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
-I can see that box temptingly says "Russian plate". -Yes. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
-Is it? -It is, yes, I believe so. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
-There you go. -Right, in a very smart bag. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
Right, now this is what I was actually hoping it would be. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
Now the key thing about this is | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
this plate is either worth £50 to £100 or several thousand pounds. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
-OK. -So, first of all, what I want to do is ask you why you've got it. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:09 | |
-My great grandfather was a ship's captain. -Right. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
And he used to sail to Leningrad and his... | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
because he was a captain, his wife used to get to go along on the ship with him. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
When they were in Leningrad in 1934, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
she got given this plate by a ship's chandler. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
-Right, now that's exactly what I wanted to hear. -OK. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
What we've got is Russian revolutionary porcelain. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
-OK. -Made in the immediate aftermath of the revolution. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
The imperial factories were taken over by revolutionaries | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
and instead of painting those lavish Tsarist patterns, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
they used the same blanks to paint revolutionary scenes, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
and what we've got here, I suspect... We've got skeletons, a crowned skeleton... | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
-Yes. -This is probably about the decay of the Russian court, the corruption, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:55 | |
the element of destruction that the revolution had brought about. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
And if you turn it over, on the back, that is the mark of the imperial porcelain factories. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:06 | |
-Yes. -That is the dates relating to the painting, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
you've got the hammer and sickle, 1922, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
and when they took over the factories, there were piles of blanks ready for decoration. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
-OK. -So that's why it has a mark of an earlier period, the Tsarist period, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
-plus the marks of the revolutionary period. -OK. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
These come out from the early 1920s and by the end of the '20s, early '30s, they're no longer fashionable | 0:31:23 | 0:31:31 | |
because Stalin is saying, no, we don't want revolutionary art any more. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
-OK. -So it's a very short period in ceramic history. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
By the nature of the Russians and of this business, these have constantly been copied. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
I've got two at home which are exactly the same... different designs... | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
same backing but I know they were made in the 1960s. Therefore they're worth what I paid which is £90 each. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:53 | |
-OK. -The value of this, and the story, only works if we've got what you told me. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:59 | |
We know this goes back to 1934, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
there were no fakes being made in the 1930s. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
-OK. -It's the real thing and so to go back to the beginning, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
is it £100 or several thousand pounds, what do you think? | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
-Several thousand. -It is several thousand pounds. -OK. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
For every real one of these there will be 100, 1,000 later copies. This is the real thing. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:22 | |
-OK. -And this is therefore a wonderfully rare moment. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
To see one with that story is just, to me, really great. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
This butterfly looks as if | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
it could really fly out of its case, don't you think? | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
-Oh, it could, it's beautiful. -It is beautiful. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
-Lovely piece. -Really fantastic, and do you ever wear it? -No. -Why not? | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
It's too pretty, I'd probably break it. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
What do you know about it? Is this inherited or bought or...? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
A family piece, and it was given to me by my granny | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
but I believe it was her granny before her, so my great-great-granny | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
-and it's been passed down. -That's a lot of grannies. -Yes. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
Been passed down through the female generations and it's come to me. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
Well, it's a gorgeous butterfly, it really is and it's really... | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
typical late Victorian diamond butterfly brooch, very naturalistic, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:17 | |
it's a very, very popular subject. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
I think it was associated with happiness and lightness of being. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
-Yeah. -We call it these days. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:24 | |
And probably, although it doesn't really work very well any more, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
this would have trembled when you wore it, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
-because there should be a little spring inside here. -Oh, right. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
It would have vibrated gently with every breath, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
which would've been good fun, and very often underneath here there's another little bit, and there is. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:44 | |
-The hair piece. -So this screws off | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
and that screws on and you can wear it in your hair, trembling away, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
catching the light, candlelight, gas light, looking really fantastic. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
Yeah, it's beautiful. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
Because they didn't have any other white metal but silver, the front is all silver | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
and the back is all gold like a sort of sandwich, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
complicated to do, and then they drill out little holes and they shape them all out with tiny files | 0:34:05 | 0:34:12 | |
and set the stones. It's really gorgeous | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
and it's really nice it's in its original fitted case from Hancocks. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Yes. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Very well known 19th century firm who also make all Victoria Crosses. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
Well, it's a really lovely piece of jewellery and erm... | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
They're very much in demand, very sought after... | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
especially the genuine ones, which this is, and erm... | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
if you had to go out and replace this, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
I think today you'd be looking to pay £8,000 to £10,000. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Blimey. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
Yes. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
So have you had him on your bed, or have you played with him? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
I played with him when I was a baby, he's just always been part of my life. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
-Really? What's his name? -Teddy. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Oh, right, very original! Well you've kept him very well, you've looked after him | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
because so often they get pulled around and the sawdust, well it becomes sawdust. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:08 | |
It starts off being long strips of wood inside. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
-Yes. -But the interesting thing about him is, you know he's by Steiff. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
-Yes. -Because he's got his button. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
-His button. -He's got two factors that make him more desirable than other Steiff bears. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:24 | |
His colour is very, very desirable because the ordinary brown colour, beige colour, is sort of normal | 0:35:24 | 0:35:30 | |
and then the other factor is that he's got a seam down the middle of his snout | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
which is also... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
one in seven gets a seam like that. They have seven bolts of cloth | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
that they make up with this fur which they call excelsior... | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
and every time they come to the end of the seventh one, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
they have to cut another one in and so you get... | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
that's the beginning of the next bolt | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
and that's the end of the seventh. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
-Uh-huh. -And so they're known as centre seam bears | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
and they're more rare than the others. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
So do you have any idea what he's worth? | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Absolutely none, I've looked up in books but I really don't know. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
There's a lot written about these and of course they are still the king of the teddy bears, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:16 | |
Steiff in Giengen South Germany, they're still going strong, they're very clever at publicity | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
and he's worth around £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Really? Thank you. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
-This is the most super, super little mug, it really is. -Really? | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
-Where did it come from? -It's my Dad's, it's been in his loft as far as I can remember. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:40 | |
I know it seems a shame but... | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
It does seem a shame. Do you know when it was made? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
No, no idea. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
-We're looking at a mug that was made in about 1700. -Wow. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
-Wow! -Condition is wonderful, colour, everything about it is wonderful. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:59 | |
-The coat of arms at the front. -Yes, what does that mean? | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Well, it's fascinating because straightaway | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
we can tell from that that it was actually made for a woman. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
Oh! How do you know that? | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
Because it's in a lozenge. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Right. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
Now, when women bore arms they couldn't put them in a shield | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
-because a shield was considered unseemly. -Right. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
It was an implement of warfare, so female arms are always in lozenges. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
-That's interesting. -We've only got the one mark underneath. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
I was a bit worried about that but... | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
Well, you don't need to be actually, maker's mark only at this sort of period is not unusual. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
The maker's mark is actually that of Robert Cooper. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
-Robert Cooper was a goldsmith who started in London in the reign of Charles II. -Right. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:46 | |
And actually made things like a spitting pot... | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
-for Samuel Pepys. -Oh, well that's interesting. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
Right, so... | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
it has... And actually the quality with this goldsmith's so chunky | 0:37:54 | 0:38:01 | |
and oh, it's to die for, it really is. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
I would say at auction today, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
I would have to fight if I was bidding for it | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
at maybe up to about...£5,000. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
You're kidding! Dad's going to be pleased. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
-I kid you not. It is an absolute... -For that little thing? | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
For that little thing, and boy...I would love it. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
Hands off. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
Do you know, we see so many fake bronzes on the Roadshow | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
that my initial reaction when I saw these was that they were fake, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
they are just so beautiful and so perfect, they seemed too good to be true. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
I think I need to know really, from your point of view, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
what the family history is behind them. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
-Well, they belonged to my husband's grandfather. -Right. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
So they've been around for a bit. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
The original perpetrator of these bronzes | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
was a famous Austrian factory called Bergman. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Now, these are cold painted bronzes which means essentially | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
that the bronzes are founded | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
and then they're cold painted by hand afterwards. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Now, ordinarily, bronzes of this type, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
and these purport to be circa 1900-ish, maybe 1910-ish, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:25 | |
they're worn, they're marked, they're knocked around, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
they're just not this pristine. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:29 | |
-Do they sit in a cabinet at home or anything? -No. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
-They don't. -I dust them occasionally. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
You dust them? What do you use, a feather duster or something? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
-Just a, just a duster. -Right, OK. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Obviously they're a great pair of hunters... | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
We'll call them a pair because they're both similar subjects. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
This one here, which heartens me a bit, has got some damage. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
His rifle is bent. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
I kind of like the idea of his rifle being bent - | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
ordinarily I wouldn't, but that kind of helps me | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
and it reassures me that perhaps there is some age to it. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
What I can see here is a four-digit number, typical of German bronzes of this type. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:11 | |
They have a four-digit number, almost like a catalogue number. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
Interestingly enough, Bergman often signed their bronzes "Namgreb", | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
that's "Bergman" backwards, or they'll be marked with "geschutz" | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
and a Bergman foundry mark. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
It could be hidden anywhere | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
and... Aha! Look at this, hold on a sec. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:33 | |
On the bottom of this bird's tail... | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
is a mark, can you see that there? | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
Look, it's hidden in the feathers. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
Hold on one second... | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
and it says "geschutz"! | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
That's very heartening. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
Let's look...ah, there's one on the other bird as well, look. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
It says... | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
"geschutz" and... | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
it's got the Bergman foundry mark on it. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
I can't tell you how happy that makes me. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Well, Marc, I've had those for a long time and I've never noticed. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Well, I don't think you would easily notice | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
because those are so well concealed on the bird's feathers there | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
that they're actually almost part of the plumage. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Value is difficult because the thing is, when something this exceptional | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
in terms of its condition, comes to the market place, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
it's almost impossible to put a very accurate price on. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
Would you be surprised to know | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
that a sort of fairly worn example in a quite reasonable condition | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
with perhaps a couple of small bends on the birds and things, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
would probably be worth in the region of about £2,000 per figure. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:49 | |
£2,000 per figure, so to start off with you've got £4,000 worth of bronze sitting here. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:55 | |
Now let's look at the wider picture, we've now... | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
-With the bent gun? -Sorry? -With the bent gun? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
Forget the bent gun, I mean, to be honest with you, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
that's inconsequential, we'll leave the gun bent and not worry about it. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
I think they're in such exceptional condition, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
I don't think I have any hesitation in putting £7,000 to £10,000 on this pair of bronzes. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:18 | |
-Is that a surprise to you? -Yes, yes. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
-You haven't got any more at home, have you? -Just the one. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
-What do you mean, just the one? -The one... | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
-a man in a te... -A man in a tent? -Yes. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
-Is it the light up one with the carpets? -That's it. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
-£3,000 to £5,000. -Ooh. -£3,000 to £5,000. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
-Well, I'll treat him with more respect then. -Do you not like him? | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-No. -Why not? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
-Do you like these? -No. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
No? Do you like them any more now? | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
Oh, well, you know. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
I know value isn't everything but at the end of the day | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
you have two of the most perfect Bergman bronzes I have ever seen. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
They're absolutely exceptional | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
-and you've absolutely made my day, thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
I've just been browsing through this useful little booklet | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
about the history of Aberdeen's Music Hall. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
They've had some big names here: Charles Dickens, Jenny Lind - the Swedish nightingale, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
the great Paul Robeson, Alma Cogan, Des O'Connor and a group called The Chinese Ambidextrous Jugglers. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:25 | |
Not all on the same night, of course! | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
And the stars of today's show... the people of Aberdeen, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
and now from the Granite City, goodbye. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 |