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Any programme that's seen as much of the world as the Roadshow | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
is bound to have picked up a bit of folklore along the way, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
and many's the tale that is told by the old log fire | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
at the end of a day. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
Some of the team beg Henry Sandon to tell them the one about the time | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
he single-handedly brought London's traffic to a standstill | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
when a bus driver spotted him, abandoned the vehicle | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
in the middle of Oxford Street, rushed over and gave him a huge, wet kiss. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
Henry was flabbergasted... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
As it turned out, the bus driver was a woman, but even so... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
There's more where that came from, but tonight | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
as well things you won't have heard, we're concentrating on things you won't have seen before | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
with some more items that came our way recently. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Kedleston Hall was a lovely place, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
and David Battie, a programme pioneer, man and boy | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
started his day there with one of his favourite Roadshow yarns. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
We get a lot of items brought in | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
which are broken in some way. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
The most bizarre I ever had, was a figure which the lady's mother had broken the hand off, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:48 | |
and in the 1920s, stuck it back again with condensed milk, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:55 | |
and 60 years on, it was still there! | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
It had worked perfectly! | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-This is another variant on the theme. -Yes. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Er, we've got a nasty donk in the side here, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
and somebody has repaired it on the inside with bubble gum, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
which is really rather nice. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
-Where did it come from? -Er, I don't know, it's just something | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
-what were always in our house. -Really? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
It's just from me mother's side, you know. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
-Well, it's possible that it's made not that far from here. -Mm-hmm. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
It's made of earthenware pottery. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Yeah. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
It's a very reddish clay, which you can see on here, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
might come from Jackfield, somewhere like that | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
and then it's been joggled with coloured slips | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
to produce this extraordinary... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
tortoiseshell effect, which is as good as I've ever seen. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:55 | |
It's absolutely fantastic and it's INCREDIBLY thin! | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
It's a wonderful bit of potting. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
It's really thin. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
And they've just relieved the mouth, with a little cream-coloured slip | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
and the handle is what we call a strap handle but it comes down | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
into this beautiful little terminal. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
He's just gone...pip...pip | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
and you've got that. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
It's just brilliant. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-D'you love it? -Yeah, I like it. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-How much? -No idea. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Well, I think, you know, it is a bit nibbled | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
and you have got the chewing gum repair to do something about, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
but how often does one see a really good bit of mid-18th century - | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
this is 1750 - so it's been around for 250 years. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
I didn't realise it was that old. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
How often do you see one as good as that? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
You really don't. I think, you know, there are dealers in London | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
who specialise in fine English pottery and I think | 0:03:55 | 0:04:01 | |
they would want that pretty much and the market is strong. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
So I think we're probably looking at somewhere between | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
£600 and £1,000. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-So much? -So much. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-That's a surprise, that. -It is, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Well, I love this fantastic scarlet silk velvet on the shelves, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
but unusually, they slope upwards - | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
they can't be good for displaying everything. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
No, that's true but this is a very special cabinet | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
and the shelves slope for a very good reason. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
In fact, it's the display cabinet for the trophies | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
from a local grammar school. It became surplus to requirements, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
so I went to the proper authorities and said, could I buy it. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
I made my bid and because it is such a specialist cabinet, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
it wasn't useful for anyone else, so in the end I managed to get it. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
And how much was your bid for? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
I don't know if I should tell you! | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
-£40. -£40. -£40, yes. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
It's the most fantastic quality. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
It's this very, very richly figured rosewood. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
-Yes. -Carved in the solid, there's no wastage | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
of any of this rare timber. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
You've got stylised fleur-de-lys clasps in the corners, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
you've got this amazing shaping to the glazing | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
and even the shelves are carved in the solid with this bead and reel. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
It's a really fantastic example from about 1825, 1830. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
-As early as that? -As early as that. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Did it need restoration? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
-Not the cupboard itself, no. -But it needed a base. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
It needed a base, yes, and my wife carried the sizes of the cupboard | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
around in her handbag, and finally, several years later, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
we were in the Lake District and looking in an antique shop | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
and we discovered this | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
but the two don't really go together. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
No, because you've got rosewood and you've got oak at the bottom. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
What's great is, because this is a bit earlier, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
-1790-1800, George III... -This? -..oak chest... | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and it would have been in all the servants' bedrooms in a house like this. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
But this was definitely for public display | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-in the grander rooms down below. -Yes. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
And your Lake District treasure, although it doesn't fit exactly, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
is a sort of thing which - though slightly earlier - | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
wonderful quality, perhaps nowadays would be worth | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-£1,000-£1,200 at auction. -Oh. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
-Very nice too. -And this, which is a little bit later, fantastic quality, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
is the sort of thing that instead of being worth £40 | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
you could easily pay £2,500 for. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
-Good heavens! -So I'm delighted you saved it. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
Thanks very much. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
The back of the picture is, in many ways, the most interesting part. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
You've got a little label here stuck on in 1982 | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
suggesting that we've got a picture by Teniers | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and maybe it's worth a lot of money... | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
-Is that what you're hoping? -Hoping! | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Well, in part, I'm going to have to let you down. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-Right. -But we'll explain why. -Yes. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
The back tells us quite clearly | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
-this is not a mid-17th century painting. -Oh, right. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
Teniers was painting in the 1650s. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
-Yes. -And this is absolutely typically a 19th century canvas, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
19th century stretcher, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
-it's a completely 19th century picture. -Right. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-And we know that from the back. -Mm-hmmm. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
And now if we have a look at the front, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
we'll have some more detail shortly, but tell me, how did you get it? | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
Um, it was my aunt, who was Dutch, and she had to flee Holland | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
when the Germans invaded, and on her return | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
her father was given that as a welcome home present. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
How lovely to have peasants carousing... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-Yes. -..as a welcome home... it's a very jolly scene, isn't it? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Yes, I love it. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Well, having now decided for certain that it's not a period picture, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:57 | |
it's still full of all the charm of a Teniers | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
but with a slightly more modern approach to it. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
This is not a face...he looks like a little garden gnome, doesn't he? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-Right! -He's not got a very... | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
He's not got a 17th century face, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
-it's very much a 19th century face. -Yes. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
I love how they're counting | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
how many drinks they've been buying each other. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Lovely detail, isn't it? | 0:08:19 | 0:08:20 | |
You've got a signature here which unfortunately, I can't read | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
-but it doesn't matter because we know that it's not by Teniers. -Right. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
-That having been said, it's still a very charming picture. -Yes. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
And if you were to sell it, at auction, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
it's such a lovely scene, it would probably make somewhere between... | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
-£2,500 and £3,500. -Right, thank you. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
-So it's a lovely picture. -Yes, we love it. -But sadly, not by Teniers. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-That's all right, I still love it, I still love it. -OK. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
One of the most familiar images in cinema history | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
has to be this - | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
the great gorilla, King Kong... who drew these? | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
I've actually done these myself, using a graphite pencil. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-Why? -Ever since, from a child, I've loved black and white horror movies, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:10 | |
but I think my favourite has always been King Kong | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
and I'm still a fan at 46. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
So you've never escaped him? | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-Never. -What about you? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
What's it like to have a dad who's obsessed with horror? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
Um...it's a little bit weird but I've grown up with it. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
Like, when I was little, I didn't always play with Barbie dolls and everything, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
I used to play with Dad's little King Kong things. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
So it's different, it's something to talk about. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
-But your fixation goes further. If you come over here... -Yup. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
..we can actually meet him! | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
So, what is he? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Mr Kong, so the seller informs me | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
-comes from a disused cinema in Bridport in Dorset... -Right. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
..called the Electric Palace Cinema, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
and when the gentleman purchased it, Mr Kong was standing inside. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
Do you think he'd been there since 1933 or even '34? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
We thought that he dates from the '30s and '40s | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
and probably was used as some kind of promotion or advertising | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
for the original film. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
Right, now where does he live now? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
At present, he lives in my back room. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
I can fill you in a bit, because by a strange act of chance, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
-I live in Bridport. -Oh, right. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
And I know the Electric Palace. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
-Really? -And I used to go to it, before it closed, but I can tell you | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
in all the times I've been to that cinema, I never met him. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
You never met him? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
-So all I can think of, is when it finally closed... -Yeah. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
..he was found in some store room and they must have thought, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
-"Who wants this?" -Yeah! | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
-"Nobody, only some lunatic would want it!" -Only a mad person! | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
What did you pay for this extraordinary creature? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Er, I actually paid £200 which... | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
-Phew! -..a few "phews" going around the country! | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
Well, I don't think that's bad at all. Let's give some Kong values. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
-The rarity of the great issue of King Kong in 1933, is the original poster. -Yeah. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
It was simultaneously released all over the States - there were thousands of posters. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
-Must have been. -I think six survive, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
and I think the last one that sold, fetched 34,000. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
-Gosh. -But don't get wound up. -No! | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
This is not one of those great Roadshow movie moments - "And King Kong is worth... "! | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
-Yes. -I think King Kong is probably, to an addict, worth £200-500, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
exactly what you paid, he's very battered, he's had a hard life... | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
But if he is... which he appears to be... | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
an original 1930s foyer presentation piece | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
-which would greet people coming to see this exciting movie... -Yup. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
..he's a great survivor. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
-Brilliant. -Well, thank you very much. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Thanks very much, anyway. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
-Well, this a wonderful photograph of E A Maund... -That's right. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
..the famous African explorer | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
dressed - he almost looks like a mannequin, doesn't he? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Sort of...almost stuffed! | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
There's another one, that's a little bit more English, isn't it? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Nothing African about that. And look at this moustache! | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
-Wonderful, yes! -He must have spent hours waxing that in the morning! | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
It's quite incredible, absolutely splendid! | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
Now, you've got these two Africans here, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
tell me the story. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
Well...um... my grandfather was an explorer | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
and he was fighting against Rhodes for mining concessions... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
This is Cecil Rhodes, the founder of Rhodesia, modern Zimbabwe? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
..that's right, Cecil Rhodes... against Cecil Rhodes for mining concessions | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
in Rhodesia, and Rudd had just got a concession, perhaps a bit dubiously, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
and he was trying to overturn that, and persuaded Lobengula that he ought to send two of his indunas | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
to see there really was a great, white queen, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
and did she have the powers that were said, so it was agreed | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
and he dressed them up in Capetown, took them over to England | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
and they had an audience | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
with Queen Victoria and Lord Knutsford. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Rhodes was sufficiently worried while this was going on, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
to go over to England to try and circumvent this, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
and the company my grandfather worked for, did a deal with them | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
so when he got back to South Africa, his new boss was Rhodes, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
so having been against him, he was now working for him. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
And they became great friends, to the extent that Rhodes agreed | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
to be godfather to the eldest daughter, born out in South Africa. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
And here it is... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
"...shall be delighted to be the godfather..." | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
and it's Rhodes, that's wonderful. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
This is quite a collection, very exciting. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
African explorers don't turn up every day | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
and you've got some of your grandfather's papers here | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
on Matabeland and Mashonaland. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
It's a tremendous collection. Obviously, you would never sell it, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-but do you have any idea about values? -None whatsoever. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Well, I think it's a great story and some great photographs. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
I think we're talking | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
-somewhere in the region of £2,000 here. -Good Lord! | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
-Wonderful to see it! -Thank you very much. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
I've been looking at so many single vases today | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
where one has been lost or split up in a family, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
it's so nice to see here the pairs staying together | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
-as they were always intended. -Yes. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
-Have these always been together in your family? -Yes, they have. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
They probably represent two generations. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Which d'you think are the earliest? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
I'd have thought these, really. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
They look that, perhaps, because they are inspired by Old Chinese - | 0:14:22 | 0:14:28 | |
one is looking there at a pair from the 1920s, in fact. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-Are these chinoiserie? -Mmm. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
If you look at the designs themselves | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
-that's the Old Willow Pattern isn't it, in a way? -It is, yes. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
-But look at those colours. -Yes. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Where have you seen those yellows, orange, flame-reds? | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
You don't normally see the greens, do you? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
-It's Clarice Cliff, isn't it? It's typical 1925-30. -Yes. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
And so, an old design brought up-to-date. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-Uh-huh. -And there's the maker of those - | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
"Wiltshaw and Robinson, Carlton Ware". | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
And Carlton really was in its heyday at this period, so a pair of vases, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
probably a wedding present from the '20s | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
going back a previous generation, a previous marriage perhaps, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
can we think here, because these are even older. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-Are they? -I mean, these would have been a wedding present | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
-probably in 1900-1902, that sort of time. -Mm-hmm. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
So going back a generation before, and what a splendid pair they are. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-They're nice. -These are the work of the Moorcroft factory. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
This one, the monogram there, it's not really very clear, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
but we've got "W M Des" - | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
-that's William Moorcroft... -Mm-hmm. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
-..and a great British potter, he really was. -Yes. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Starting off as a decorator within another pottery in Stoke, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
in Burslem, in fact - "Macintyre, Burslem, England" - | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
and Macintyre's big designer was Moorcroft | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
who brought in a new technology and a whole new taste to Britain. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
I mean these are Art Nouveau, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
so a family buying these | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
-would have been really very much avant-garde and of the day. -Oh. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
So two pairs, of really very different generations, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
probably rather different in price, too. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
These pairs, as Carlton Ware, a good maker, and a pair | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
are going to be, oh... | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
-£500-£600. -Mm-hmm, that's nice. -That isn't bad! | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
And, here we've got Art Nouveau and Moorcroft and perfect condition, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
good designs, so one's looking there... | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
a pair of them too... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
What, sort of...oh... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
-£2,500 to £3,000. -Really? -Mmm. -Oh! | 0:16:36 | 0:16:42 | |
-Yes. -Goodness! | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Do tell me how you got him in the first place. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
I was given him 33 years ago, by a friend of my parents, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
whose wife had died a few years earlier. He was moving house, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
and clearing out, and because I liked bears, he asked my parents | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
if I'd like him, so he gave him to me, and other than that | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
we don't know anything about him at all. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
He is a spectacular bear and when you brought him in, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
I couldn't believe it, because he's in such good condition for his age | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
and I actually would put his age at somewhere around 1910. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
Now that's an ancient bear, as teddy bears go, because teddies really started in 1903, 1904. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:28 | |
Just a bit later, 1908, 1910, there was a firm in London | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
called J K Farnell, and they were making soft toys and they started teddy bears and... | 0:17:34 | 0:17:41 | |
It's very difficult to say, that is definitely a Farnell. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
I am 90% sure it's a Farnell and I'll tell you why. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
Because he's got his claws stitched inside, and now, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
all other teddy bears have their claws stitched on the outside | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
and that was their, if you like, signature tune. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Whereas the Steiff had a button in their left ear, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
Farnell have this, and very few of them have any other marks. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:09 | |
-So did you ever take him to bed? -No! | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
-You didn't? -No, I was told he was very, very old | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
and I'd got to take good care of him, so he sat on a chair in my bedroom. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
So that's why he's in such good nick! | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
It's in immaculate shape compared with most bears | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
of a much later date. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
They're very much in demand, these Farnell bears. I mean, have you any idea of his value? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
-Not a clue! -Not a clue, not a clue. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
Well, he's not a Steiff, so he's not going to make hundreds of thousands, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
but he is a Farnell and I'm going to stick my neck out and say that | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
you should be insuring him | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
for £5,000. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
Good grief! | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
As you know, the Roadshow travels round Britain | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
and every time we go somewhere | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
I think what are the local products? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
You know, what are we going to see? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Or what am I hoping to see, in that area. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Derbyshire means many things, but it means pottery and it means Denby pottery | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
but in this particular case, it means a particular designer | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
working at Denby who I've never seen. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
And had I written my shopping list today, before I came here, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
of the things I'd really like to see today, this is it. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
All these pieces have one thing in common, don't they? What's that? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
They were made at Denby pottery in the 1950s, by Tibor Reich. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
Right, exactly. Why do you like them? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Um...they're very different and they fit in with modern houses | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
and they're original. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
He was an interesting man, wasn't he? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
He was born in Budapest in 1916, and then presumably in the late '30s | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
like some other Europeans, he came to Britain. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-He came to Derby. -He came to Derby. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
And then he looked round what to do, and one of the places he stopped | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
for six months was the Denby Studio. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Most of his career, actually, he was a textile designer. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
The pottery is a very small sort of interlude | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
and although it's what appeals to you and me, we must never forget | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
that his primary function was a textile designer. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-That's fair, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
And he is much better known in that field | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
and I think his commissions included a lot of work | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
for the Shakespeare Memorial Theatre, cos he was in Stratford. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Designs were made for 10 Downing Street, for Concorde, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
you know, he's quite an established figure in textile terms. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
When I look at pieces like this, well, let's look at this bird... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
I think that's a fantastic piece. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
What it is to me is, South America meeting Picasso | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and if you marry them together with contemporary design | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
this is what you get. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
-Is that fair? -Yes. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
And I think there's a lot of Picasso influence on these pieces. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-Where do you buy your pieces? -Um, at auction. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
I go to a lot of auction sales. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
-And how often do you find them? -Rarely. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
So how many have you got, in total? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
Um, oh, about 30. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
That's pretty good, that must be most of the output! | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
-I've not got them all! -No, but I think in my life, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
even though I've known all about it, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-I think I've seen about three pieces until today. -Gosh! | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-So...that's cos you've got it all, no wonder! -Oh! | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
I'd love to find a piece. I've never seen a piece to buy, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
but equally, while these are very rare and desirable | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
and I imagine quite expensive, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
you could go to a boot fair tomorrow and find that, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
-couldn't you? -Yes. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:37 | |
Most of them aren't marked in an obvious way. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
There's a paper label, often washed off. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
That was in the bottom of a box of rubbish! | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
When I first saw it, it was in the bottom of a box of rubbish | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
at an auction sale! | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
And did you buy it then? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
Unfortunately, somebody else spotted it | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
and the price was beyond me at the time. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
So what was that? | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
-It went for £800. -Gosh. -But I caught up with it at a later date. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
-And bought it? -And bought it. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
So that's a very expensive piece. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
-Yes. -To some people that would seem an act of complete lunacy. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
I don't think that's so, I think, he is a very rare man | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
and for those who can appreciate really avant-garde design | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
in this period, which is certainly a burgeoning market, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
these prices are entirely reasonable. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
The plates, at £300, £400, £500... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
I can go with that. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
For once, you've fulfilled my ambition - | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
the right thing in the right place, thank you. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Paul Atterbury finding perfect happiness at Kedleston Hall. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
And that's what all our experts hope to find, wherever we go. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
Earlier this year, we pitched up | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
at Swansea's Brangwyn Hall | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
and the moment she arrived, Hilary Kay was able to indulge a personal passion of hers... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
the bygone days of sail. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
She's perhaps the most famous ship | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
that still exists today. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:00 | |
-Yes. -The Cutty Sark. A lovely model of the Cutty Sark. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
Do you know why she's called the Cutty Sark? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Yes, it's to do with, the figurehead is wearing | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
a short, white shift or dress. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
-Called a cutty sark. -That's right, yes. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
People think that the Cutty Sark is such a wonderful name | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
it must be something to do with cutter, or tea clipper, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
but in fact, it's from a poem by Rabbie Burns - | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Tam O'Shanter features this particular figure, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
the witch called Nannie, who's wearing this cutty sark, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:39 | |
her hand outstretched to grab the tail of the grey mare | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
to escape from the farmer. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
It's a wonderful, completely obtuse kind of figurehead! | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
She's not the spirit of adventure, none of those things! | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
So there she is, a ship that was named after a woman's underskirt. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
A shirt, yes! | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
But what is the relationship between the Cutty Sark and your family? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Is there a link there? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Other than that my father was a merchant seaman, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
and on one of his voyages, the SS Pencarrow, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
they left Barry with a load of anthracite coal | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
which was destined for South America, Buenos Aires. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
On that voyage, which took ten months, Dad had a little cabin, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
and in that cabin he made this. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
And in fact, that's a picture taken during that voyage, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
he's the one on the right. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
So this is your father, on board the ship | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
-where he actually made the Cutty Sark. -That's correct. -Fabulous! | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
Well, I suppose if you've got that length of time, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-it's a great hobby. -Absolutely. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Where did he get the plans? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Because this is a beautifully scratchbuilt model. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
That is a question I cannot answer. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
I know he had plans and I saw them, years ago, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
but where he got them from, I don't know, but they are to plan. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
-Yes. -And in fact when I went up to see the Cutty Sark, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
I purchased a set of plans and checked it, and it's perfect. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
-A son checking up on his dad's work! -Yeah, that's right. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
I tell you what's going through my mind is... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
If I was sitting down wanting to make this model | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
and thinking of an hourly rate over ten months, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
we ought to be looking at the crown jewels | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
-from a financial point of view. -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
-Just doesn't work that way though! -No, no. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
I mean the value, for an object like this, is tiny | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
in proportion to the number of hours that went into the making of it. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
I'd say an auction value would be... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
£400, £500 - maybe £600 - | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
because of what she is, of who she is - | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-because she is the Cutty Sark. -Yes, yes. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
As a piece of your dad's passion and as a piece of maritime history, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:54 | |
it's priceless. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
-Absolutely. -Thank you very much. -Thank you! | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
So you bought a collection of ceramics. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
-Yes. -What sort? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Mainly Royal commemorative ware, and I saw that jug in there | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
and I thought it looked quite nice, and I liked the inscriptions on it | 0:26:10 | 0:26:16 | |
and I thought it was funny! | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
You said it was a collection of Royals, this of course isn't. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
-No, no. -It's Imperial. -It is. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Because the man at the centre of the action is none other than | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
Napoleon Bonaparte. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
This is a delightful example of British cartoon art, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
wrapped around the jug, so it's making a political statement. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
Napoleon Bonaparte, after losing in 1814, was sent off to Elba, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
in the Mediterranean, but unfortunately that wasn't far enough | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
because he escaped, and of course, he came back | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
and gathered another grande armee, and the Battle of Waterloo | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
was in fact just over a year later. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
So, when this jug says, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
"Bonaparte Dethron'd April 1st 1814", | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
-it's being triumphant rather too... -Quickly! | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
I love the fact that he's in chains and begging for forgiveness. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:20 | |
What he's actually saying here, he's saying... | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
"Oh, Cursed Ambition, What hast thou brought me to now?" | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
And there is the Devil looking out of his pit, and saying, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:33 | |
"Why, to me, Come Come along, thou hast been a Most Dutiful Child". | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
In other words, Bonaparte has been playing the part of the Devil | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
throughout Europe. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
-Yes. -I love this thing, but it has, so to speak, been in the wars! -Yes. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-The Napoleonic Wars have done for it. -Yes. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
-And that's a great shame, because it detracts hugely from the value. -Yes. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
But it's a classic example of something that... | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
showing the staples and the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:07 | |
is rather charming. If this were mine, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
I wouldn't take the trouble to have it restored or even tarted up. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
Where's it from? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
-I was told it was Dillwyn Pottery, Swansea. -Dillwyn Pottery, Swansea? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:23 | |
They certainly produced what we call these canary yellow jugs and... | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
-There's no mark. -There's no mark on the bottom | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
it's highly likely to be them, and of course canary yellow | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
is very expensive glaze to put onto a piece of pottery. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
Yellow is the most difficult monochrome colour | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
-on a piece of pottery. -Oh? | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
-How much d'you think you've got invested in that? -I dunno. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
-50? -£50? | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
I would be very happy to offer you £50 for it. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
Would you? | 0:28:52 | 0:28:53 | |
But if you were selling it in a proper commemorative auction, you could, even in that state, | 0:28:55 | 0:29:01 | |
get a price certainly in the region | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
-of £300 to £500 for it. -Oh! | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
That's nice to know. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
Well, we're in this capacious Art Deco hall | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
and now we've got a wonderful Art Deco drawing. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
How did you come by it? | 0:29:15 | 0:29:16 | |
Well, my father found it in his father's garage, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
after my grandfather had died. He'd never seen it before, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
but he did know that my grandfather worked | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
as an architect on Broadcasting House. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
-Which this shows. -Yes, this is the entrance hall, we believe. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
It's a wonderful memento, and your father being intimately involved | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
with one of the most important civic architectural commissions | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
of the 20th century as well. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
-What did he do? -Well, we believe my grandfather | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
actually drew up the plans, that was the job that he was given. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Apart from that we're not too sure, but it was obviously a building that was very close to his heart. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:55 | |
What I love is - architects do this, and it's a whole subject in itself - | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
they commission people to give the public or the commissioner | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
an idea of how, from a human point of view, it would work, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
and there seems to be at work here, an artist who, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
in that suggestive, half draughtsman-like way, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
manages to perfectly express it without putting too much | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
on the architecture itself, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
-which after all has to be conveyed. -Yes. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
What do we know about the artist himself, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
H R Thompson? I have to say, I've never heard of him. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
I've not been able to find anything out about him at all. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Have you considered what it might be worth? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
I don't know, I've never found anything remotely like it so... | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
I think it's a very chic piece. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
I think its worth about | 0:30:43 | 0:30:44 | |
£5,000-£6,000. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:45 | |
Oh! Really? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
Good grief! | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
Oh, I never would have thought that. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Really?! Ohhh...goodness me! | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
So who was Captain Samuel Blackmore? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
He was my great-uncle on my father's side of the family. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
He was a sea captain and he sailed | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
from Swansea to South America | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
at the beginning of the 20th century | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
and on one of his voyages | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
he managed to save a ship and save the lives of some people | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
and when he returned to Mexico, the people presented him with this watch | 0:31:25 | 0:31:31 | |
-to say thank you. -What a lovely, lovely presentation. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
So, the ship obviously was Mexican, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
-as were, no doubt, the seamen. -Yes. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
This is in Spanish | 0:31:40 | 0:31:41 | |
and to be honest, I can't read that | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
because my Spanish isn't very good. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
Have you just got any translation at all? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
A friend did translate it, for me and it says... | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
You've got it there? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:52 | |
-Yes. -Let's have a look. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
"To the Captain of the English ship, Rosefield, Samuel Blackmore - | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
"Gratitude for saving the Mexican mailboat Morelos | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
"on 16th September, 1906". | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
It's a cracking presentation because... | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Have you ever opened the back at all? | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
-Well, I have had a look, yes. -Well, look at that, I mean that is, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
that is absolutely...lovely. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Because basically, it's saying there - | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
"Repetition", | 0:32:23 | 0:32:24 | |
"Grande Sonnerie", | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
and, "in passing and at will". | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Now, do you know what "grande sonnerie" means? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Not really, no. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
Well, most clocks strike the hour. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Some clocks strike the quarters, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
but a grande sonnerie | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
is something that on every quarter | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
strikes the hours AND the quarters. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
So, to have a pocket watch | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
that's grande sonnerie, is technically superb | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
and also very, very rare. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
And that is stunning, absolutely stunning. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
Everything is fully jewelled, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
it is as nice a quality Swiss movement as you'll ever, ever see, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
and it looks rather unloved, sitting in a box... | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Is it in a drawer at home or does somebody ever wear it? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
On top of the kitchen cupboard. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
-Top of the kitchen cupboard... -Mmm, right on the top! | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
Because if you put that to auction now, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
you'd get an absolute minimum - an absolute minimum - | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
of £6,000-£8,000. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
-Thanks very much. -So don't leave it on top of that unit! | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
And whatever you do, don't let it slip into a box of cereal | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
-and get chucked away. -No, we won't do that. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
I don't know where to start, to be honest, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
because it's not very often | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
I'm faced with so many fantastic signatures. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
I suppose I might as well start with some particularly famous people... | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Here we have a signed photograph of them. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
Superb, obviously definitely by them. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
Diane... is that you? | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
-Yes. -How did you happen to have this? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
It's from my mother. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
I was very young when they played the Empire Theatre in Swansea. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
I imagine my mother or grandmother had their autograph from the theatre, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
-they didn't stay with us on this occasion. -What do you mean? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
-We had a theatrical guesthouse. -A theatrical guesthouse? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
Most of these people stayed with us. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
So, basically you, or your mother, was in a superb position | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
-to gain all of these signatures and postcards. -Right, yes. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
In this autograph book, there's not only a signed photograph, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
we've also got the autograph book signed. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
Normally, when I see Laurel and Hardy in an autograph book | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
I put £300 to £400 on those two signatures. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
-You're joking! -No, I'm not joking at all. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
So, you've got two - | 0:34:52 | 0:34:53 | |
and I think that the postcard is better than the autograph, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
so the postcard is £400-£600. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
So, all of a sudden, those two pages | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
-are £700 to £1,000. -Oh, my goodness me! | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Where do we go from there? | 0:35:06 | 0:35:07 | |
I don't think I can deal with it all, there's too much here! | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
I mean, this album is just full | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
of music hall people, radio people, it's endless. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
But this fascinates me as well, because what you have here, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
is a sort of coverlet which people have signed. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
-Yes. -Did your mother embroider all of these afterwards? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
-Yes, she did. -Well, what's interesting is, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
in effect, what she's done is devalue the signatures. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-Oh, right. -Because in fact you... | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
OK, she's embroidered over the signatures, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
-but we can't see them any more. -That's right. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
I see there's a couple she didn't embroider over, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
maybe she just got fed up with doing it, I don't know. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
Whoever it was didn't come to much, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
could be dead so we didn't bother. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
-She didn't feel it was worth embroidering over them?! -No! | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
Well, there are a few that I can immediately pick out | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
which are quite interesting. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:02 | |
Here we've got the hypnotist, Peter Casson, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
who was quite a stage show at the time. Did you meet him at all? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
Well, I was a child at the time, but my mother did, he hypnotised her in our kitchen. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
-No! -He did, yes. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
What, to do the washing-up? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-Yes, she said it was one of the worst experiences of her life. -Really? | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
She said it was very strange, yes, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
but he had her rising from a chair I believe... | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
Oh, fantastic, that's really amazing. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
-Are any of the signatures duplicated on here and in the book? -Yes. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
Because if you've got double, then it doesn't really matter. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
They all tie in to make a kind of cohesive example, really, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
of everyone's signatures. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Even this on its own, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
is probably worth maybe | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
-£500-£800, just as an item on its own. -Well, well! | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
So if we start to flick, the price mounts very quickly. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
-Mmm. -And I think because of the history behind it | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
to keep it all as a lovely kind of unit, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
I think is a nice thing to do. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
-It's been a pleasure to look at it. -Thank you very much. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
This beautifully tooled leather box here, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
is exquisite in its construction | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
with all the little gold flowers embossed round the edge | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
and I have to say that the content is really lovely. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
Now, tell me a little bit about this, and indeed all these pieces. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
They belonged to my mother | 0:37:30 | 0:37:31 | |
and she left them to me in her will. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
And there were three children and they divided up the jewellery | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
and I got this section. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
-So I don't know very much about it and I'd love to know more. -OK. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
This box here, with the name in the lid, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
-Harvey and Gore... -Yes. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:50 | |
..one of the most important London jewellers... | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-Oh, I see. -..specialising in antique jewellery. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
I think this piece was probably made around about 1740-1750. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
-Oh, really? -Middle part of the 18th century | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
and it's a remarkable piece of jewellery. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
Why? Because of its amazing condition. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
-Yes. -Now these stones here are all foiled at the back, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:15 | |
and there was an C18th tradition | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
-that a gemstone wouldn't just be set in a metal mount. -Yes. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
-They would put tinfoil behind to enhance the colour. -Oh, I see. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
And these are golden-brown topaz. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
I wondered what jewels they were. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
In typical fashion, if I turn it over | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
we can see that the back is all solid silver, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
the back's enclosed and that is very much of that period. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
How would they have worn it? There's a little clip... | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
-It's a corsage brooch, it would be worn as a corsage pin. -OK. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
-Here, I would imagine there was a matching brooch. -Yes. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
Now you mentioned you've got siblings. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
-Yes. -Is it possible the brooch at the bottom was given to one of them? | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
-No, no... -No? -They... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
That's a relief by half! | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
Now, so that's that piece, there. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
This piece here... | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
Well, I have to say, this is absolutely...wonderful. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:15 | |
This really moves me. This is a diamond double-headed flower brooch | 0:39:15 | 0:39:21 | |
and it is absolutely glorious. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Like all these antique diamonds, they're not the modern, flashy cuts, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
they're the older, cushion shapes. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
They have a soft brilliance about them. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
These old diamonds come from places like Brazil, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
and they come from all sorts of interesting sources around Calcutta | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
and places like that, so these are the old diamonds. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
-They're not found deep in volcanic pipes... -Yes. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
..that you see in modern diamonds, from places like Kimberley. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
The old diamonds were found in dried-up river beds. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
You'd be walking along a river bed, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
and there would be a ten carat diamond crystal. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
These are the old goods. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:01 | |
-In India, or...? -Indian stones. -Fantastic. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
These two flower heads are PACKED with antique diamonds! | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
-They are absolutely integral to this piece. -I'd no idea, no idea at all! | 0:40:09 | 0:40:15 | |
Turning it over, we see | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
they're actually mounted up also in gold. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
Now, look at this frame at the back. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
That is a double clip frame, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
and I would suggest that maybe your mother in the 1920s or '30s, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
took the original brooches - | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
which weren't in this type of setting... | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
-D'you know where I think they were? On the front of a tiara. -Oh, really? | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
She's had a jeweller remount them with a brooch frame on the back. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:44 | |
And then, and then! | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
A third piece, just to finish off the group. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
This pink leather box... | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
I thought, "I wonder what's going to be in here, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
"I wonder if it's going to be a pearl necklace". | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
What a lovely little piece of jewellery this is! | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
-These are made about the 1920s. -Yes. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Now, this is before cultured pearls. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
At the start of the 1920s, that man, Kokichi Mikimoto, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
-introduced the world to cultured pearls. -Yes. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
These are natural pearls, they've got that smooth, even lustre. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
-Yes. -And in the 1920s when this would have been sold, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
this piece of jewellery would have been an ENORMOUS amount of money. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
A pearl necklace could cost the price of a house, in those days. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
Good heavens! | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
Then, when cultured pearls were introduced to the world, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
the market for natural pearls absolutely nose dived. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
So, you've brought along today, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
three absolutely cracking pieces of jewellery. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:46 | |
Well, let's talk a bit about what they might be worth. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
This is a rare piece, it's exquisite in its condition, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
and I'd suggest if you were selling it, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
it would achieve in the region of | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
£2,500 to £3,000 today. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
Wow. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
The pearl necklace... they're not as expensive today, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
but the beauty, the consistency and the colour of those pearls | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
leads me to suggest we're looking at around about | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
-£2,500-£3,000. -I love this necklace. It's lovely to wear. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
I'm not surprised, easy to wear, which is important with jewellery. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
Now we move on to, in my opinion, the piece de resistance, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:28 | |
the diamond double flower head brooch. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
I think you've got in the region of 12 carats of diamonds here. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:37 | |
Many of them are colourless and without flaws. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
I think that this piece is worth around about... if you were selling it today... | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
£15,000. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:45 | |
Gosh! | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
Amazing, amazing. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
-So, this is what I saw you filming with our Marc Allum. -That's right. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
Some fabulous signatures here. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
Would you mind autographing it for me? | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Oh, I say, that would be an honour. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
-Thank you. -Trouble is, there's not much room here! | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Well, I'm sure we can find a small space. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
-It's not easy! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
-Right. -That's fine, that's lovely, thank you ever so much, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
-Mum will be delighted. -I'm honoured, thank you. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
-What colour would you like to be in? -Oh, a nice dark blue, I think. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
-Certainly, I'll do that for you. -Thanks. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
And with that artistic moment, from Swansea, goodbye. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 |