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We're back for a second visit to the seaside town | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
of Wells-next-the-Sea on the north Norfolk coast. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
Sitting comfortable in this rural landscape is Holkham Hall, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
built in 1734 by Thomas Coke. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
Although this particular Thomas Coke predates the package holiday, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
the design of the hall was inspired by his travels in Italy as part of the Grand Tour. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
Thomas Coke's name lives on. There have been seven so far, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and between them they can lay claim to a number of innovations. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
And this is one of them. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
This legendary titfer was created by the Bowler brothers in 1850 | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
on the instructions of the third Thomas who wanted to protect his gamekeepers | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
from deer, overhanging branches and the occasional poacher. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
They still wear them today in Holkham. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
With such an elegant look you can understand why city gents latched onto the bowler, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
though it was more for style than for protection. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
Thomas number two was more of an agricultural visionary. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
He inherited the estate in the late- 18th century when farming techniques | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
were still in the Middle Ages. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Coke pioneered the concept of crop rotation and soon the entire nation | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
was enjoying bumper yields. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
And that's just what our specialists are hoping for, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
as they plough though the offerings at today's Antiques Roadshow | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
here in the gardens of Holkham Hall. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
Now, Lady Glenconner, you're no stranger to people on the lawn here at Holkham. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:16 | |
Well, I'm not really because the last time I was more or less standing here | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
surrounded with people, was at my wedding in 1956. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
-I was married here... -Because this is your family home. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
It's my family home, exactly, my father was the 5th Earl of Leicester | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
and my mother, who was also Lady in Waiting to the Queen, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
started the pottery here in 1950. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
She started at the top, didn't she, really? | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Well, she did really, I mean, they were made for the coronation | 0:02:38 | 0:02:44 | |
and I went off to America to sell them, not very successful, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
until I was sent a telegram by my mother saying, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
"You've been asked to be a maid of honour and carry the Queen's train at the coronation." | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
So I was absolutely thrilled and I came back with an order book bulging. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
The Americans must have been buzzing around you like bees round a honey pot. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Absolutely, and I spent a great deal of time trying to teach them how curtsey | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
because they thought for some unknown reason I knew how to curtsey. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
The proof of the pudding with these figures - | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
and I've got to say that the likeness of the Queen has it for me, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
whereas the Duke, I'm a bit dubious about that likeness. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Well, the Duke looks terrifying actually, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
something slightly wrong with his eyes, I think. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
The mark is quite straightforward, what does it say? | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
-It says, "The Duke of Edinburgh by..." -"By Elizabeth Leicester," | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
my mother, my mother signed them so they were her... She designed them. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:41 | |
Well, this is number 79, so this was a... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
-Was this a limited edition? -Very much so, yes. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
-I think there were 500. -Oh, were there? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
-So maybe they're worth quite a lot, one never knows. -Well, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
I'll tell you what they're worth. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
-I'd say they're worth a sovereign each, how about that? -OK. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-That's as good as it gets. -Are you sure? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
The proof of the pudding's going to be in the eating with those. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
You've brought something a bit earlier. What's the significance here? | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
Well, these two figures were a wedding present | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
and we've never really known anything about them | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
and I think that's very chic and beautiful. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
I think they're lovely, because I love the colours. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
-Yes. -And at first glance they look as though they could be sort of Ralph Ward of Staffordshire and... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
They're certainly 1790 but, um... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
-Are they 1790? -Around about. -Yes, yes. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
They're either French or Belgian, but what I like about them | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
are the colours and the fact that you've got... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
There's nothing on the base, there's just a label of a retailer | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
who I recognise because they're no longer in London, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-they're now in New York. -Oh, right. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
-So there are ways and means of getting to the bottom of these. -Yes. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
But I just love the, the colours and the fact that the glazes have got... | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
They've had a little bit of tin glaze added to them. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-Have they? -To make them that little bit more opaque. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
So at first glance people might be forgiven for suggesting | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
they might be Delft or something like that. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
-But they are a form of faience, um... -Yes. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
I love the girl with the fishes. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Well, I love her holding the fish in her hand. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
It's not the sort of thing that turns up in this country on a regular basis. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
-That's why I'm slightly foxed, quite frankly. -No, I see. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
But, um, this sort of thing, if I was to walk into New York today | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
and go into the people that sold these originally... | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-Yes, yes. -Probably... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
these would probably have a price tag of somewhere in the region of around about 6,000. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
-6,000? -6,000. -Yes, yes. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
I suppose we're talking around about...£3,500, something in that region. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:41 | |
But the great thing about the colours is that | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
those colours go with anybody's curtains, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
even the curtains here at Holkham. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
This has been in my family for a long time, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
passed down through my husband's side and my husband died 11 years ago | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
and he always said that if there was an Antiques Roadshow | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
anywhere in the area, that he would bring this box to it, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
to find out what it is, so here I am, I've brought this in his memory, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:11 | |
and I'd like you to tell me all about it, please. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-Oh, that's so... Wonderful story. -Because I know nothing and he knew nothing either. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Really? Well, I have to say, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
I haven't seen one of these before, I've heard about them. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-Oh, you've heard about them? So I don't even... -Now, this is commemorating | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
Frederick William III, King of Prussia. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-And on the other side, slightly more elaborate... -Yes, yes. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
..King George III, born June 4th, 1738. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Now it doesn't go back that far, it's much more likely to be commemorative | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
which were, many of them done in the mid-19th century. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-Mm, yes. -So maybe we're talking about, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
could be up to sort of 1830-1840, it's not silver-gilt, I'm afraid, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
I've checked it out, I hoped it would be. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
-Is it brass? -It's brass. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
It's brass, yes, it's brass, yes. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
And inside we have a seal and the wax, we've got all that, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
which is fine, for carrying around when you want to seal your envelopes | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
that you've sent to your lover or your mistress or something, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
and on the other... | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
This is what excites me. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
And me, because I know what's in there. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-Now that to me is quite extraordinary. -Yes, yes. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
We have a gaming tool, if you like. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
It's... Probably, it was illegal. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
-Oh, really? -So you know, ostensibly on one side we have... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
-This is our seal. -The seal, yes. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-My seal and let's go next door and look what it does. -Oh, I see, yes. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:44 | |
What do you bet? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
-A six and a four. -Wrong! | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
I think it's fantastic. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
It's going to stick, there we are, one, two, three... | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
Well, that's neither one thing or the other. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Oh, there we are, ooh, a pair of two's. That is so unusual. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
I have to tell you, I've done a bit of research on this | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
because it is something that I checked with the silver and the jewellery | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
because they've seen them, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
but they haven't ever seen anything like this, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-because normally they have scenes of battles inside. -Yes, yes. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:17 | |
Events in the reign of George III and William, William III, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
but never a gaming tool, and so this is particularly unusual | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
and I'm going to put more on it because of this. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
It would be worth at auction, in the right sale, as much as £300 to £400... | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
-Gosh! -..even though it's brass. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Brass, yes. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
-Expensive brass. -Yes, well... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
I'm thrilled, I wouldn't mind going back in there and having a little... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Yeah, oh, a little go and see what dice you... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
-..little betting. -Yes. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
It's a bit... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
-Oh, a six and a four! -There you are. A six and a four. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
The first thing I want to know is, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
do you think they had a stormy relationship or a nice, sunny, romantic relationship? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:04 | |
I don't honestly know, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
I think they probably had a fairly romantic relationship. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Perfect. Well, that's the first question, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
when I look at a portrait I want to know something about the sitters. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-Yes. -Now tell me, can I see any likeness here? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Well, you might do, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
it is my great-great-grandfather and great-great-grandmother, yes. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Perfect, perfect and they're obviously a well-to-do | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-Victorian couple. -Yes, yes. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Because if you look at some of the clothes they're wearing, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
and I'd like to perhaps start here. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-I mean, this jewellery would have cost a lot of money. -Yes. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
And it's all dated from the period, so 1850-1860, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
and thank goodness for the back of pictures because on the back | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
-it tells me the artist and indeed, the date. -Yes. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
-It's by Solomon Cole, they're both by Solomon Cole. -Yes. -From 1861. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
I know that he lived in Worcester and London, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
and actually these pictures were painted in London, weren't they? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
Yes, which is surprising because they both come from Worcestershire. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
-They don't? -Yes. -That's extraordinary, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-So they picked a local artist. -Yes. -How fascinating, how fascinating. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
-Now she's in black which is a bit, um, worrying. -Yes. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
And he's obviously well alive but in 1861 Prince Albert had just died, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
so maybe it was in respect to Prince Albert. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
-Don't you think? -It could well be. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Yes, and as I said, they look rather, um, comfortably off. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-Yes. -And this is obviously a sort of record of their life. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-Yes. -And a great lover of greyhounds. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-Yes, yes. -Do you know anything about this greyhound? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Well, family history tells us that he had a dog that won the Waterloo Cup. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:48 | |
-Ah! -Now whether this is the one, I have no idea. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
-It seems likely, doesn't it? -Yes, it does. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
I think it does, and I love... I mean, only the British, to me, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
would have a portrait of themselves with their favourite, um, hound. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
And it's absolutely wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Now, it's always impossible to value portraits to a certain extent | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
because other people's relations, you know, our own are quite tough | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-but other people's can be... -Yes, yes. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
But they're a good looking couple, they've got... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
-They're very... You want to engage with them all the time, don't you? -Yes. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Um, and I would say for the pair, we're probably looking at, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:25 | |
in the region of £3,000 to £5,000 for the pair. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-Mm, mm, thank you very much indeed, that's lovely. -A pleasure. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
My great-grandfather, whose medals these are, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
was in the Charge of the Light Brigade and thankfully survived the engagement | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
but on his return up the valley | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
-he was shot in the shoulder with a piece of canister shot. -Really? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
And that piece of shot rested in his shoulder for some three years thereafter | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
until the local surgeon, James Paget, had the skill to remove it. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
The family story goes that Queen Victoria actually gave permission | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
for him to wear it as a medal, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
but whether that's family myth or not, I don't know. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
I don't know, I can believe that such a thing happened, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
because after all's said and done, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
we know that the Charge of the Light Brigade was a disaster, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
but it was a very heroic disaster. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
Now, here we have the three medals, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
we have his Crimean War medal, three bars, the Alma, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
Balaclava, which is the Charge of course, and Sebastopol. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
-Now, he's also got a DCM which is a Distinguished Conduct Medal. -Yes. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
Now, that really makes this group very important | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
and of course he has the Turkish award, now there's the three medals, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
and of course the wonderful thing is, you can bring it alive because | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
you've actually got photographs. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
There he is, as a young man, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
and here is as an elderly man. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Now, have these photographs been in your family possession? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
In the family since they were taken, yes. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
This particular one though, um, I was aware of it, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
having seen it as a young boy, but it went missing from the family after my aunt died, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
I think the house clearance people came in and things went missing | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
and I came across it in a bric-a-brac shop a few years ago. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-Gosh. -So I recognised it instantly and bought it quickly. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-Weren't you lucky? -Very. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
Oh, that's marvellous, marvellous. And the belt, of course. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
That allegedly is the belt he wore during the Charge | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
and it's certainly seen some action. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Well, it is a belt of the time, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-it's a pity you haven't got more of it. -Mm. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Or perhaps his tunic or his jacket. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Now, with the Charge of the Light Brigade medals, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
they're absolutely magic. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
They were awarded without inscription, that's the sad part. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
Collectively in value you have here | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
something like £5,000 to £6,000, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
but what a wonderful thing, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and I'm so thrilled that you brought it in today. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you very much. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Do you know, all through the 18th century there were cabinets | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and tables to take toiletries, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
and this is a retro piece because it has certain features | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
which from a distance you could say, "Well, maybe 1770, Hepplewhite, serpentine front," | 0:14:11 | 0:14:17 | |
this wonderful serpentine apron and that leg, with the cross banding | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
was copied from, er, work by Ince and Mayhew, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
you may have heard of those, very famous makers during the 1780s. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
-Oh, really? -Absolutely, and it has such quality | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
that it couldn't be 18th century because this is walnut | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
and of course by 1770 this was no longer the fashionable timber. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
-No. -It was satinwood or rosewood. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
And there are other little features which just lead you to think, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
"Hello, there's more going on here than meets the eye." | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Little knobs, these little handles, delightful though they are, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
are certainly Queen Anne period, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
so there's a combination of the past which has inspired this. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
-Yes. -But when you lift this lid, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
I mean, there is the 1930s, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
and what an eyeful of wonderful, wonderful pieces. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
These are just fantastic. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
This opens up... Now, look... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-see that little ivory button? -Yes. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
To stop that rubbing on the carcase. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
-Oh, I see. -What quality, I mean, they thought... | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
we'd say they thought of everything. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
And in the back is a mirror. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
Now, I know about the cabinet and I love it | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
and I could go on and on telling you about it, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
but I don't know enough about these to really give you a good opinion, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
and I've asked Eric. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
I've been waiting in the wings... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
It's quite a revelation, isn't it, when you open it up. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Um, and full of Georgian silver. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
-I wish. -Oh, no, no, let me quantify that | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
because obviously we're looking at something from the reign of George V | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
so, you know, that's why I say "Georgian." | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
But, I mean, it shouts sort of Art Deco, I mean, look at these brushes, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
fantastic quality, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
you've got this sort of simulated lapis lazuli in here, haven't you? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
And almost like a simulated jade. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
What are we doing for marks, John? Oh, we've got, um... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
It's an imported mark of some sort, it's continental. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-Oh, right. -Not English origin. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Oh, yes, um, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
it's been imported for G... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Goldsmiths' and Silversmiths' Company... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
so it goes without saying it's a top maker, you've only got to look at a cabinet like that, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
I mean, you look in here and you think you've just pinched it from a bedroom upstairs. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
Well, it's been hidden away for a long time. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
-Um, but it's all there, isn't it? -Yes. -You've got... Oh, how decadent! | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
-I know. -Look at that, for buffing one's nails! | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
-You probably use one of these every day, John. -Every day. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Of course you do. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
Well, I've got an idea what the dressing-table set is worth. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
I should quantify them and say that they're not normally easy things to sell | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
-because nobody wants to use anybody else's brush. -I understand that. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-And if you want to re-brush something like this, they cost you a fortune. -A fair amount. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
But this was expensive when it was made originally. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
So all I can say is that the dressing-table set alone | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
is probably worth in the region of around about £3,000, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
I would suspect. So, John... | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Well, as a whole, what would I like to pay for that? | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Or what would I have to pay for that if I went into a shop, opened it up? I would... | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
It's £7,500, I would say. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
-Doesn't surprise me, wouldn't surprise me. But quality has never come cheap. -No. -No. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
-That is quality with a capital Q. -Very kind, gentlemen, thank you very much. -Not at all. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
I was immediately struck by the ease of composition of this figure, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
she's very beautiful but in a very simple way, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
there's no great detail to her, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
yet she works very well, I think, she's very nicely formed | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
and I think she's very beautiful. Do you know anything about her? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Yes, this is my grandmother | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
and I think my grandfather had her sculpted | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
rather than a portrait painted. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-He was the British Military Attache in Stockholm. -Ah. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
And I think it's a sort of slightly Baltic name there. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
That's wonderful, that makes her very special in my eyes - | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
not only do we have a beautiful bronze, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
we have a bronze that has really superb personal connections | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
and that's something you don't find very often. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Now, if we look at her, you mentioned down there this name, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
and if we can see here... | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
Ida C Thoresen, 1921. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Now, she was born in Gothenburg in 1863 in Sweden | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
so that ties in beautifully with what you've said. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
Now, she was very interesting, she studied in Paris and was very well thought of, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
and believe it or not, she was very famous for doing portrait bronzes | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
of Scottish celebrities and Swedish celebrities. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Now, I don't know how that quite came about. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
Well, my grandmother was a Scots woman. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-Oh, was she really? -Yes, and my grandfather was Robertson so... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
That's wonderful, so there's a connection there as well. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
The whole thing just ties in beautifully, that really is wonderful. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
I like the bronze very much, I think if we just have another look here, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
we've got the founder's mark, Otto Meyers, on the back here, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
nice to see all of that information. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
I think, to be honest with you, she's rather undervalued | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
and perhaps not as well known as she should be | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
because she really is a superb sculpture | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
and I think this works wonderfully, this figure. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
We've got a little bit of a problem with the violin bow, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
it's quite fragile and could do with being straightened a little bit. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
-Um, I presume your grandmother was a good violinist. -Yes. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Did she perform in society? | 0:19:37 | 0:19:38 | |
Yes, I think so, but I don't think she performed publicly. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
Right. Apart from the fact that she's a beautiful bronze, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
the family connection is wonderful and it's rare to have that | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
and that adds a lot to it for me, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
-and in terms of value I think we have to be talking about £1,500 at auction... -Yes, yes. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:56 | |
-..for such a beautiful stylish bronze, I think. -Oh, thank you. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-It's a pleasure, lovely. Thank you for bringing her. -Thank you. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
When I first saw this clock in the distance, I thought to myself, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
"This is a typical Scottish mahogany longcase clock." | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
But it suddenly dawned on me | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
that the dial is not showing normal time at all, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
in fact it's not showing any normal time. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
We've got "railway time", "Calcutta time", "St Petersburg time", "New York time", | 0:20:19 | 0:20:25 | |
and it's by a maker I've never heard of, Mr Betteridge, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and I have looked up Mr Betteridge and we know nothing about him. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
-We couldn't find anything out about him. -And you tried? -I tried. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Well, do you know why it says "railway time"? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-No. -In around the 1830s, 1840s, when railways were starting to be built, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
they had a problem because the time that was taken | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
in different locations was different, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
so for example the time in London at 12 o'clock was different from the time in Oxford. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
It would be two minutes after 12 o'clock in Oxford from the time taken in London, | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
that is because we were taking time from the sun | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
and sun time differs wherever you are in the United Kingdom, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
or in America, or in St Petersburg or in Calcutta. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
And of course if you wanted to put together a train timetable, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
it was rather confusing, so the railway companies decided | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
that they would make time universal. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Later on, in the 1880s, by 1880, Greenwich Mean Time had come in | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
and railway time no longer existed, but for a long period of time, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
not many people know, the railway time was important. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Why this clock has time for Calcutta and St Petersburg and New York, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
I simply can't tell you, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
but when you open it up and you actually move the hand... | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-They all go together. -..all the hands go together, isn't that fantastic? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
Actually, I do know the St Petersburg time is three hours faster than London time | 0:21:48 | 0:21:54 | |
and we know the time in New York is five hours slower than London time. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
-I can't tell you what time it is in Calcutta. -So you'd set all three in line with... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
You would set them properly and you'd know. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
It could, I suppose, have been in the first class lounge at Victoria Station, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
for people who thought it was smart to know what the time was in Calcutta | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
or St Petersburg, or New York, I have no idea, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
but it's fascinating. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
So as far as value is concerned... | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
-Mm-hm. -..if this clock were sold at auction but with a standard dial, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
it would be worth between £2,000 and £3,000, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
but because it has these interesting subsidiary dials telling us the time | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
in places where we really had no need to know where the time is, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
and certainly they had no need to know where the time was in 1840... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
because it's such an interesting feature, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
I would have thought that it's worth between £4,000 and £6,000. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
-Good. -I hope that makes you happy. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
-Yes, it does, thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
This is one of the most spectacular pieces of art glass | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
I've seen for a long time, it's absolutely magnificent. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Have you any idea where this was made? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
Someone said it's French. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
You're absolutely right, it's French Art Nouveau, 1880s-1890s, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:10 | |
and it's by one of the masters of French art glass at this period, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
it's by Emile Galle. I don't know if you've heard of him, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
he is one of the masters of art glass. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
The main decoration on this, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
obviously influenced from Japanese woodcuts and things like that, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
sort of very Japanese influence on this piece of glass, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
all the decoration that you can see is in relief, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
and that relief decoration is created | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
with an acid that eats the glass, basically, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
acid etching the glass away, so not only have you got that decoration | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
with some sort of sense of depth to it, it's then highlighted even more | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
with these absolutely wonderful enamels, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
and they've got all these sort of autumnal colours, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
it's fantastic colours, these. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
And something that you might never have noticed on this, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
is it's actually signed here, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
it's signed Galle, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
but it's done in such a way that it's very Oriental-looking, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
so it's sort of a script, it almost looks part of the decoration | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
rather than a signature | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
so this is something that you could easily miss, you know. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Now, with something this wonderful, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
it must have pride of place at home, doesn't it? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
-It's actually been in the shed for the last few years. -In the shed! | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Have you ever given it any thought about what it might be worth? | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-No, I really haven't. -Any guess, no guess at all? | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
-No, I've no idea. -Well, I'd be confident at auction to expect it to make | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
certainly within the region of say £2,500 to £3,500, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:44 | |
and, um, if it exceeded that, I wouldn't be surprised. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
It is magnificent. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
I really appreciate that you brought this in and made my day. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
I think you've made mine! | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
Well, this lovely lady is one of the biggest bisque dolls | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
-you can come across. -Yes. -You know that? -Yes. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
So tell me how, how did you get her? | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
-Well... -She must have been bigger than you at one point. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
That's right, I had her when I was three year old. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
-Did you play with her? -Yeah, course I combed off her hair, didn't I? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
-You combed her hair. -That's right, yes. Like all children do. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Absolutely, absolutely. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
-Well, she's still got her original hair underneath. -That's right, yes. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
But before we go to that, she's got a very beautiful face. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
That's right, her face is porcelain. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
-Do you think that's beautiful? -Yeah. -I think that's really beautiful. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
-She's got paperweight glass eyes... -Mm. -..probably made in France. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
-That's right, yeah. -And her face would have been made in Germany, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
and sold in Paris by a very well known make called Simon and Halbig. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
Her eyelashes are absolutely extraordinary. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
Yes, I haven't done anything to it. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
You've been so good the way you've kept her, because so often that goes. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
-They're made of cotton. -Is that right? | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
Then they're also painted onto the bisque as well and then fired again. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
-And she's got porcelain teeth. -Oh, yes. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
And a dimple in her chin, she's really beautiful, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
and she would have had, got pierced ears, she would have had earrings. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
-That's right. -She's not really a dolly, she's a grown-up lady. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
And when she's as big as this, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
she goes into a different category of doll collecting. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
I'll take her wig off, if I may. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
-Is that all right? -Yeah. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Well, that's not too bad. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
No, well, she... THEY LAUGH | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
-She's not TOO bald, is she? -No, no. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
-She's still beautiful, isn't she? -Yes. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
But this is real mohair from the mountain goat. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
-Yeah. -You didn't like it, did you? | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
No, I didn't. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
That spoiled the look of her. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Now this is a typical very, very good marking. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
-Now, see this, 1079, that's the mould number. -That's right, yeah. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
S&H, Simon and Halbig, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
DEP is Deponiert, it's a registration, basically, in Germany. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
-Now 18 would be the size and size 18 is over 40 inches. -Oh, yes, yes. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:09 | |
Now that is one hell of a size, that's a little girl doll. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
-Yes, yes. -Have you any idea what she's worth? | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
No, but I have got a person interested in it. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
-What were you offered then? -600. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
And what did you say to that? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
I said I didn't want to part with it at the time, you know. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
-And would you now? -I don't think so. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Well, I was going to say she's going to be worth | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
-in excess, at auction, of £2,000. -Mm, mm. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
-Well, she's one hell of a big babe. Thank you very much for bringing her. -Thank you. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
Now what's all this stuff? | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Well, they're not actually antiques | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
-but it chronicles the life of this lady. -Now who is this lady? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
-She's May Savage, she's my aunt-in-law. -Aunt-in-law, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:02 | |
-so you are married to her nephew, is that right? -That's right, yes. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
And what was her profession? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Well, she started life as... | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
At the age of 14 she would design headscarves | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
-and then she went on to Sanderson and she did wallpaper designs. -Is this what this is? -Yes. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:20 | |
-Oh, look. -That's it. -Isn't that wonderfully colourful? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Well, this was in the '20s and she did a lot of designs for... | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
They were very keen on Chinese and that sort of thing. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
It was a very fashionable style, so I thought this looked '20s, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
-and in fact so she was... When was she born, then? -In 1911. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
So she was working almost from her teens as a designer. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Yes, yes, she was, but then when the war came, she... | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
she thought she ought to be doing something a little bit more important | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
so she re-trained as one of the first draughtswomen | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
-and she worked for De Havilland engineering on Mosquitoes. -So she... | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
-she helped design the Mosquito? -She didn't design it, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
-but she was a draughtswoman. -Is this what we have here? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Hang on, is this...? Look, here's an engineer... So this is... Whoops. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
-It's an engineering design. -This is an engineering drawing by her... | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
..for some aircraft component, the De Havilland 60, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
whatever that may be, the name of a machine, 1942. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
-That's it. -So this was some aircraft component. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
So how did she get on in an all-male environment? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
-Well, she was a feisty lady. -I bet. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
She had dark red hair and she was really pretty and why she never married I'll never know, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
but she was in a room, she was the only woman | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
and she held her own, she really did. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
They didn't give her a light over her, her drawing and she ended up | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
going to Moorfields and got a letter from Moorfields Eye Hospital | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
which said that she ought to have a light because she was doing night work. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
-So she was resented as a woman in a man's world. -She was. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
-Even though she was doing vital war work. -Uh-huh. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
What is this life supply of milk? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
Well, we nearly threw these away, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
I mean, I haven't told you half of it yet. She... | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
she wrote diaries and she stored them in Marvel milk. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:08 | |
-So all her diaries are in these packets? -Absolutely. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
-So let's just take... I'll take one completely at random. -Of course. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
So right, so we've got a date, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
-we've got money, that's her accounts is it? -Yes. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
And it's immensely detailed. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
-Yes. -Let me just look and read a bit. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
-Is this typical? -Yes. -"Pets' suppers 6pm, packed up, locked gate 7.45pm, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:34 | |
"rather dark, black clouds around too." | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
The weather forecast is always there and the ships in the harbour and... | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
-So it was amazing observation of detail. -Yes. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
-Even though nothing important happened. -Everything is there. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
So this is the story of her life. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
-It is, her whole life is here. -Why did she do it? Who was she telling? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
I don't know. I firmly believe that somebody ought to tell her story now, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:59 | |
because she was telling her diary. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
We used to visit her and she was, she was a closed lady | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
but when we read her diaries we find it's all in there. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
-Every secret of her life. -That's it. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
-And what, all her accounts, everything she spent? -Yes. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
-So this is... If you wanted to find a 20th-century life, it's here. -This is it. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:20 | |
I've got a natural affinity with the contents of these bottles, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
so the reason for coming along today was to enquire | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
what you can tell me about them, the contents of them, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
the reason for the seals on the front of both of them, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
and a little bit of the history, why we had the seals, etc. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
Right, well, let's see what we can do. This is a black glass bottle, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
it's a wonderful colour... | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
It's really very dark green but it's called black glass. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
The seal is a known seal, John Okes, Bury St Edmunds, 1777. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:52 | |
-So it's reasonably local. -Yeah. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
An 18th-century bottle, would have contained wine | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
and this one is earlier, this is called an onion bottle. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
-Right. -It's a greener metal, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
just got a seal on the front with no date. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Why would they have a seal on the front of the bottle? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
You filled it up with wine, and you drank the wine, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
and then you refilled it again. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
If it went anywhere else to be refilled they knew whose bottle it was | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
and it came back to you. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
Oh, OK, so it's like a deposit, but knowledge of where it came from. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
-Absolutely. -OK, thank you. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
Where do you have them in the house? | 0:32:24 | 0:32:25 | |
-We have them on the windowsill. -And do you have any animals or children? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
We've got two dogs, a springer spaniel and a Jack Russell, so... | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
-Are they lively? -Very lively, I'm afraid. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
We were told they were going to calm down but they're still as nutty as fruit cakes. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
This bottle, the James Okes, Bury St Edmunds, £1,000. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:47 | |
Right. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
And this one, the earlier onion bottle of about 1720 in date, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
£2,000 or more, if we can identify the seal. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
-Are you going to leave them on the windowsill? -No, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
I don't know where I'm going to put them, but away from the dogs. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
-I should have a drink when you get home. -I'll have one before I get home! | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-You look as though you need one. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
-Now what's this? -Well, it's a little part of her life really. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
What, you...? There were boxes like this, were there? | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
Well, I haven't told you about the house. Er, she... | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
-Well, just let's deal with the box first. -OK. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
-Because she is this hoarder, she is this collector. -Yes. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
I've opened this, and at random I'm going to pull out what I see. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
Packets of used envelopes. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Every envelope she ever had. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Packets of... piles of dog food labels. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
Yes, but, but they're all clipped together and if you look on the back | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
they're all re-used, she was an archetypal recycler before her time, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
but she never actually recycled. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
This is just a treasure trove, and you dig down further... Good God, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
-look, hundreds of bus tickets. -I must show you. The pink ones... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
they're all beautiful colours, the pink ones... | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
-Oh, that's a dog ticket. -For her dog, yes. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
-"Dog accompanying passenger, Harlow station". -Isn't it lovely? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
-Every... I can't believe this... -Every bus ticket. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
One can go on rummaging in here for hours, you keep finding new treasures. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Um, a Morse key. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
Yes, she was a radio ham, we thought she was a spy at one stage | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
because she kept all her letters all in duplicate. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
This is a sort of lunacy. Why on Earth did she do it? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
Well, I've thought about it a great deal. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
I think for a number of reasons. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
One, she didn't want to throw anything away, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
she didn't want to waste anything because she came from a poor background, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
but it's more than that. She lost her dad when she was quite young | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
and she lost her mum before she was really grown up | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
and so her possessions became a comfort to her really, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
because if you saw her house, there were boxes all around, her life was all around her. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:53 | |
What's this house here? | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
This is the first house, and the only house she bought. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
-And where is that? -It's in Ware. | 0:34:58 | 0:34:59 | |
-Yes. -Well, it was in Ware, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
and half of it was a bakery but they wanted to knock it down | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
to build a roundabout. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
-That looks to me a medieval building, is that right? -It is, yes. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
-So this is a timber-framed house in Ware in Hertfordshire. -Yes. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
And they want to knock it down for a roundabout. So what happens next? | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
Well, Aunty May being Aunty May, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
she got the scouts to help her and she numbered all the beams | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
and she said, "Well, it's oak pegged, it's only a kit of parts, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
"I can move it somewhere else and I'd love to live by the seaside". | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
She was about to retire so she... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
So she came to Wells, bought... Is that here at Wells? | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
-Yes. -So this is what she got, that's her house? -That's it, yes. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
-And there she is. -A kit of parts. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
-A kit of parts. -40 foot of scaffolding. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
But how did she know how it went together? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
Well, because she was a draughtswoman so she did copious plans. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
-Did she have professional help? -Not with the plans, no. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
-Or the building? -No, people helped her every now and then, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
but most of it she did herself. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
There she is... God, what an amazing woman. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
Well, she's my heroine, really, for a woman to do this on her own... | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
-I think it's incredible. -..is incredible. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
She sounds remarkable, but chronicling a life like this, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
and it was an extraordinary life, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
someone who was a designer, draughtsman, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
-pioneer in so many fields. -Yes, she was. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
So stubborn, so strong - I mean, how many people, you know, can do that? | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
-Yes, as a retirement. -As a retirement. I'll just take my house to pieces and put it together again. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
But your job I see, I can see why you took it on, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
is to say, "Here is THE greatest, most remarkable 20th-century life," it's all here for the future. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:33 | |
-Uh-huh. -Amazing. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
This is the largest flintlock duck's foot pistol I've ever seen | 0:36:37 | 0:36:44 | |
and I've seen, I've seen many over the last 50 years. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
Where on Earth did you get it? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
Well, I bought it at a local auction. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
-Really? -Yes. About, well, a few years ago now. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Right, well, first and foremost, it's not an English one. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:00 | |
Now, it's been proved in Belgium | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
so I take it that it's Belgian manufacture, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
but they are usually much smaller than this. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
You might say, "Why make such a pistol?" | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
but anybody that's subject to some sort of violence | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
or even a boarding party, such a pistol could be very useful. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
I see that it's got a belt clip on the side which would suggest | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
it might be sailor, a sailor item, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
and to add to a little bit of romanticism, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
this engraving on the bottom | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
with a pirate rolling a barrel of gunpowder, or whatever, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
I think is added at a later date. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
Now, the only thing I can find wrong with it, looking at it, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
is the safety catch on here's been broken in half, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
because when you put it back onto first cock... | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
..you push that, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
which holds that on first cock. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
That's the safety but that's been broken, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
there's about an inch, or three-quarters of an inch gone off of there. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
That is the only thing I can fault it with. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
That is full cock so it's all ready to fire. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
There's four little holes in the flash pan and when that is primed | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
and that closed, that is all ready to fire those four barrels. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
This is an extremely rare piece. Out of curiosity, what did you pay? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:27 | |
£1,100. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
Right, OK. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
If it was of English manufacture and of the usual size, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
a value of something like £5,000, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
but although this is Belgian and in collectors' eyes not as good | 0:38:40 | 0:38:46 | |
as an English manufacturer, a London or Birmingham manufacture, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
it is unusually large - | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
I keep endorsing this. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
You could expect something in the region of about £8,000. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
It's a ginormous thing and I think any gun collector would be proud | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
to have that in his gun collection, lovely. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
-Thank you very much. -Well, thank you very much for bringing it in. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
And with that, another Roadshow heads into the sunset, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
from Holkham Hall, Wells-next- the-Sea in Norfolk, goodbye. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Ltd, 2007 | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 |